Ioniq EV Ran Out of Power

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  • Опубликовано: 15 май 2019
  • After some unexpected journeys, I was still confident that I had enough range to get the car home. I was wrong.
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  • @alexandrutudor9497
    @alexandrutudor9497 5 лет назад +3

    I own the 28kw Ioniq and I am more than happy with it. Not interested to upgrade any time soon.

  • @gerbre1
    @gerbre1 5 лет назад +5

    I just bought the 28 kWh Ioniq, because it charges faster and the interior looks better to me compared to the new version (I don't like the touch buttons). You can always run out of power regardless of the battery size.

  • @maesygwartha
    @maesygwartha 5 лет назад +6

    Don't beat yourself up, poor weather and difficult traffic should be factored in. My rule of EV driving ABC - Always Be Charging....top up even a little whenever possible. A good video lesson for newbies.

    • @nitelite78
      @nitelite78 4 года назад

      I would say it's bad battery management system and feedback for it claim it has 4 miles left then suddenly drop to 2 miles then 0 without actually doing anything close to that distance. There should also be a buffer of at least 10 miles.

  • @Da9eI
    @Da9eI 5 лет назад +6

    Im an Ioniq EV owner myself and I also live on top of a hill! As for the new 38kwh Ioniq I like the look, both inside and outside. However, from my research the battery voltage is quite a bit lower with fewer cells. The nice thing about the old Ioniq is that when fast charging it starts at 40kw, even at low soc - and speed stay at 45kw+ for almost the entire charging session, I suspect you will not see those numbers when fast charging the new Ioniq. The lower voltage is a step back in my opinion, newer cars should have voltages close to 500v which is the maximum on the first gen Chademo and CCS chargers.

    • @Hans-gb4mv
      @Hans-gb4mv 5 лет назад

      Right, was charging at a 200kW charger and it stayed at 56kW up to 78%, dropped to 45kW until 84% and then dropped to 22kW for the remainder up to 94%. Great speed that the new one doesn't get. Battery is a third larger but fast charging takes twice as long.

  • @KsiNixNie
    @KsiNixNie 4 года назад +1

    The Leaf being at 90% charge and no owner in sight is what would have enraged me. I believe that all EV's should automatically disengage the plug lock once 90% is reached so someone else can use the charger even though the owner does not show up.

  • @RobertEaves
    @RobertEaves 5 лет назад

    Very entertaining. Glad you made it home and glad to see there are still kind people willing to help just for the sake of helping.

  • @TStheBaja272
    @TStheBaja272 2 года назад +2

    The turtle is angry 🐢

  • @EVPuzzle
    @EVPuzzle 5 лет назад

    Crikey, I guess that shows how trusting we are even with small numbers.
    I found the 🐢 yesterday in the Kona but with 8 miles left, 3%
    Really grateful for your video as I'm guessing the Kona will react the same as it nears empty. I know what to look for now

  • @mariata-8177
    @mariata-8177 3 года назад

    Thanks for sharing this experience. I’ve had my Ioniq EV for a couple of weeks which means that I have the 38.3 KWh battery - I imagine a similar issue could occur with this upgraded version also. You did a great job getting the car and your family home safely and as you said in the video, there are kind people in the world to help when we need it! I now have a home charger fitted so the range anxiety is less now, but still always at the back of my mind. The issue I have is that home charging and electric bricked in general are meant to be more cost efficient as well as better for the environment but if we end up having to top the battery to full every night then surely it could no longer become cost efficient compared with petrol/diesel when it comes to ‘fuel’ costs - surely that defeats a big part of the purpose? Will see what the Ioniq 5 and Kia EV, recently announced will have to offer. Again, thanks for this video

  • @ZeroTailpipe
    @ZeroTailpipe 5 лет назад +1

    Eek! So kind of people to help you push and very brave of you to coast home. Glad you got home safe. Epic! :) Personally I'm not hopeful about supply availability of the 38.3 kWh IONIQ. It'll be interesting to see what price Hyundai comes up with and whether there will be long waiting times (again)...

  • @lagautmd
    @lagautmd 4 года назад

    About running out of 'fuel'. I could feel the embarrassment, I would feel the same way. People have strong attitudes and worries about owning an EV. Drove a colleague around yesterday in my new Ioniq and he basically was all about concerns about the lack of infrastructure. I live in a rural area, so public charging is not convenient to me yet (even with a collection of 6 Tesla Superchargers literally 1/2 mile from my house). We strongly focus on this car being only for daily commuting and errands within a short radius of home where we can charge. We have our gasoline car for distance driving, such as our trip to a town 2.5 hours away last weekend.

  • @CelesteOnYoutube
    @CelesteOnYoutube 5 лет назад +2

    I have the same Ioniq you have and I don't want the new one. It is less efficient in charging. I'd rather charge often but quickly. I was surprised by the Kona's comparable efficiency but I like the Ioniq's looks better. It really feels more premium. For now, nothing I've seen made me want to switch from my Ioniq. It is really a fantastic car and I'm enjoying driving again thanks to it.

  • @jamiefox54
    @jamiefox54 3 года назад

    Thanks for sharing this as I have this car so useful to know it doesn't have a buffer. It would have been interesting to see how much further you could have got when the "vehicle will not start" message appeared and you were still moving had you not had to stop. I am not sure if the car had died and was just rolling (I guess yes) or if still had power and could have gone a little more if it hadn't stopped. I haven't been lower than 5% yet. That happened one day when I had 75km to home and the range estimated was 125km when I left so I thought no point charging, so I thought I'd be fine. But the temperature went down, there were some hills I hadn't factored in, and it was all motorway with no traffic.

  • @130rapid
    @130rapid 5 лет назад +2

    5:49 DING is exact moment of shut down with noticeable 12V battery's voltage drop.

  • @themadjock1977
    @themadjock1977 5 лет назад

    No, not tempted the range is better but the charging rate is slower. Thanks for sharing your painful experience but don't feel bad it could happen to any of us. As they say, all's well that ends well, stay safe. I am off on an outer Hebrides trip next week and most CCS chargers show an "unknown" status at the moment so I will have this in the back of my mind as a warning.

  • @alansteventon9370
    @alansteventon9370 5 лет назад

    Hi Stuart, I have had my Ioniq since October last year, i have twice been well past the time it went to 0 miles range, the last time I was down to 0 miles and for last 1.5 miles down to 1%, luckily I have always made it but definitely not advisable to get that low on charge. If the 38.3kw Ioniq is not too expensive I would change up to that. However, I have done a few long journeys in my Ioniq during winter time and managed OK, yes the extra range would help with planning a long journey, but as you say the more EV's on the road is putting a strain on the existing charging network. It is getting to the point that they really need to start doubling up on the charging points they have the now. My lease ends in April 2021so there should be a lot more choice in cars by then, but i really like the style and drive of the ioniq.

  • @johnremiguzon6538
    @johnremiguzon6538 5 лет назад

    thanks for another great video. No, I'm not tempted to upgrade my ioniq, cause it for fill our needs. but I do however want a second EV with a lot more range and more room. I find that the ioniq has it's limits .

  • @bigdougscommentary5719
    @bigdougscommentary5719 5 лет назад +1

    160K miles in our Leafs and I ran out 2 times. Not sure if an Ioniq is capable, but if the Leaf is towed while in drive, the car regens and can charge the battery. The Leaf just thinks it’s coasting down a hill. Good for emergency situations.

  • @gabiv100
    @gabiv100 5 лет назад +1

    My wife has managed to run out of power one day in the fall last year, caught in a trafic jam with 30 KM on the display (or so she said) to cover 12 to home. Heat on, lights, etc up to the point where she called me scared, 5 km left, she didn't make it. It quit at 2 km left, she managed to pull on the shoulder of the regional road that sees speeds of up to 100 km/hr, she was scared. Lesson learned.
    I needed to make a round trip of 15 km round trip on a 33 km charge left, I didn't dare it, i was curious to see what would happen, but just not enought to ruin my evening.
    Why can't they make a portable battery pack for emergencies? People would buy it,` I would.

  • @davidg6370
    @davidg6370 5 лет назад

    I've had my Ioniq electric since December and view it as an improvement over my old #30 LEAF. I have a few years of payments so won't be trading my Ioniq in soon. Interestingly, I used the Hopwood CCS in Saturday (after waiting five minutes for a LEAF to finish) with no issues. I always plug in then sort out the App. It shouldn't make any difference but I've not had a failed EH CCS charge as yet.... 15 sessions at 10 locations.

  • @buckegit
    @buckegit 5 лет назад +2

    What about the MG eZS that was launched today at LMS. 44kw pack. Ford kuga sized small suv style..

  • @volvocars5189
    @volvocars5189 5 лет назад +1

    Best tip is not to go below 5-10٪ SoC. :-)
    Still well done to get the car back home.

  • @kwaliteitaccount3293
    @kwaliteitaccount3293 4 года назад +1

    THank you for sharing the story. Its amazing that you even considered pushing. I know now that its a option.
    As for yor question; no im not temped to upgrade. Larger battery's are not really needed in my situation.
    Couple of questions:
    1. Why didnt you use the granny charger at someone's home, 1 hour should be enough to get you home?
    2. Why did you drove so fast when you moved off the highway? If you drove a constantly 25 miles an hour you gotten a bit further?
    3. Does this incident pushed you for an upgrade to the 38 kwh or the ID3?

    • @StuartDWright
      @StuartDWright  4 года назад +1

      I knew that I wouldn't have far to push it given that most of the kilometre was down hill.
      I drove too fast after the motorway because I was over confident that I would still make it.
      And no, the 38kw Ioniq rapid charges too slowly. Hyundai have killed the new Ioniq with the throttled charging choice.
      It's most likely an ID3 for me.

  • @ngkokbeng
    @ngkokbeng 5 лет назад

    I recently made a 150 mile (250km) road trip with my Ioniq. The range indicated that I had only 10km margin if and when I arrived the destination. Quite scary. Keeping a cool mind, I slowed down from 70mph to 55mph, this margin eventually widen to 20km. The best way to conserve battery before it runs out is to slow down.

  • @theexmann
    @theexmann 3 года назад

    You definitely got your workout for the day. I've seen these portable batteries you can charge and take with you. They can charge all kinds of items. I wonder if it would be possible to make one that also allows you to minimally charge an EV. Or, maybe one already exists.

  • @13partnership
    @13partnership 5 лет назад

    no upgrade needed, no vw needed either. have fun with iIoniq 1 further on. I.ll get mine soon...

  • @marconrustNL
    @marconrustNL 5 лет назад +1

    When at home, my Ioniq is always charging (unless I just visited the fast charger 2km's from home and filled it up to 94%). Like Bjorn Nyland says: ABC. And AJIGJ.

  • @thrustsst
    @thrustsst 5 лет назад

    I will not switch my 2018 Ioniq to the new Ioniq but will eventually wait for the generation after that - or perhaps another make. I miss strongly towing facility on my Ioniq and the new one seems not to be better on that point. The missing towing facility is - in my point of wiev - the biggest drawback for Ioniq, though in all other ways a great car. Tesla model 3 can be ordered with towing facility - and I think - and hope other makes will follow.

  • @130rapid
    @130rapid 5 лет назад +1

    Great thanks for ''pushers''! D
    That's pity we haven't Ioniq Spy yet. :/

    • @Da9eI
      @Da9eI 5 лет назад +2

      I managed to get the "Torque" app with its custom pid's to work with a bluetooth obd adapter. Its not quite leafspy, but there is still tons of nice info to find in there!

  • @carlarrowsmith
    @carlarrowsmith 5 лет назад

    Been there and almost done that. The GOMs at the end are certainly not accurate. There are some free chargers at the garden centre that you passed, just off M5 Junction 4.

  • @xiziz
    @xiziz 5 лет назад

    Dealers here seem to have some trouble shifting the MY19 now that buyers know a 38kwh version is due, once Nylund has tested the DC charging speed I bet the 28kwh are gonna go fast, 320v will be significantly shorter. Same time my current Diesel will soon be worthless, they are going to be tough to sell in a few years. I smell a breif window for a potental deal opening. I might be joining the Ioniq ranks sooner than I thought. :)

  • @ncb4704
    @ncb4704 5 лет назад

    Interesting that the Ioniq goes from 4mile range to zero in much the same way that a Leaf goes from approx 7 miles left to 3 dashes, never got as low as turtle in mine but the App did say I had just 2 miles left when I got home one winter evening.
    Well done for pushing it, I tried pushing my then 24kw Leaf and by god it was hard work.
    It must be over a year since I last visited Hopwood and the LH charger wouldn't start on Chademo, Nice lady I met there said she lived around the corner from the Services and charged there daily, it was always playing up she said, .would usually work after a few goes.. Meanwhile those 12?? Tesla Superchargers gather dust..

  • @yggdrasil9039
    @yggdrasil9039 4 года назад

    Great that Hyundai's engineering allows you to push the car in neutral as well as gain a bit of regen on the downward slopes, though clearly not quite enough to get you 10 metres across a junction.

  • @MartynDews
    @MartynDews 5 лет назад

    Unlucky. The bad weather was the killer for the predicted range I think. Another schoolboy error I noticed; assuming that an Electric Highway charger could be relied upon, especially for CCS. Welcome to the Turtle Club!

  • @garethdouglas9543
    @garethdouglas9543 5 лет назад +1

    Hi, did you know the Ioniq comes with a 5 year unlimited miles warranty and roadside assistance free of charge. I own a Ioniq electric and it is fantastic, I drove London to wales round trip 300 miles, London to Plymouth round trip 500 miles no problems. The key is planning and the red on the battery is there to leave you with about 25 miles of range in case a charger doesn't work. I would advise you not to get the new Ioniq as a upgrade but to get a used Tesla Model S for about £30K or the Tesla Model 3 Standard Range + for £40K. It will give you over 300 miles of charge and prices for the Model S are decreasing rapidly. I have owned 4 EVs and I share your pain, I almost ran out of charge with my 22kwh Renault Zoe.

  • @gregoryosullivan
    @gregoryosullivan 5 лет назад

    38kWh Ioniq is too soon for me, we only just got the 28kWh Ioniq in Australia! It seems the the DC fast charge speed will be lower on the new Ioniq (I make it about 39 minutes to charge the amount you can get in 23 minutes on the 28kWh model!). 60 profile tyres rather than 55 will likely make the handling "softer" and less sporty. I don't like the new grille or wheels either.
    I'm thinking more of upgrading to a SR+ Tesla Model 3 when they become available here.

  • @yanitsvetanov1162
    @yanitsvetanov1162 3 года назад

    I wonder why you didn't ask your wife to hook you up and drag you back home!? Any way I recently discovered you chanel and watched all your videos about Hyundai Ioniq and I find them very informative. If I am to buy a car (although I don't have a need for one right now) it will be Hyundai Ioniq 28 kwh. Good job! 👍

  • @TassieEV
    @TassieEV 5 лет назад +1

    Couple questions well a few was there no 22kW plugs near either of the fast chargers, why not charge when having lunch even an hour would've been enough I'd imagine and when you were on motorway were you coasting or regen level 1? I'd never trust the GoM even though Ioniq is good still safer to charge when can especially so low SoC I follow Bjorns guidance on SoC and so far I've never gone into red which is about 35km Left on range. Plus even slowing speed down on motorway by 5 or 10mph and general hypermiling techniques.

    • @StuartDWright
      @StuartDWright  5 лет назад

      I don't actually live at the house with the 7kw chargers any more. So charging at lunchtime would have been via a 13amp socket. It might have made a difference, but I didn't think so at the time. I was coasting on level 0 on the motorway as it would have slowed down too much on level 1. I realised when watching back that I could have driven much more efficiently. I just didn't believe the Ioniq would run out as fast as it did.

    • @TassieEV
      @TassieEV 5 лет назад +1

      @@StuartDWright Always remember Bjorn's mantra, any juice is good juice even if its only 13A. :)

  • @biggobmalc8118
    @biggobmalc8118 5 лет назад

    Having an EV is now not only very good for the Planet, but also saves on Gym Membership. Pushing your car must be a little like spending a few hours in the gym…LOL…..You are the first person who I have seen on RUclips admit to running out of the Power…
    Well done, but must ask a question were you a little stiff the next day after all that exersize…

  • @Hans-gb4mv
    @Hans-gb4mv 5 лет назад

    Not tempted by the new version. Only picked mine up 2 weeks ago ;). Biggest issue for me on the new version is the slower fast charging. Closest I've gotten to 0 in the Ioniq is 15km and that was arriving home after a 1500km trip. Almost regretted pushing on and not making another stop.

  • @EnmandsBand1
    @EnmandsBand1 2 года назад

    Nah, I'm picking up the 28 tomorrow and I will probably drive it for 3-4 years and then get an EV with more boot space and a trailer hook, most likelig the Ioniq 5 if the used price has gone down to my level!

  • @adrianpike4649
    @adrianpike4649 5 лет назад

    I suspect that when new, your Ioniq battery would have had a capacity buffer at 0% charge. However, after a few years and with some battery degradation, the buffer falls to zero, as you discovered recently!

  • @lagautmd
    @lagautmd 4 года назад +1

    Side note about the Ioniq Playlist. There are two videos (one is repeated twice) included in the list which I think is likely not intended by you. One is titled, "The James Charles Controversy Being Swept..." by creator Philip DeFranco. The other is titled, "Parkinson Interviews David Niven" by creator Geegs.

  • @MargatePete6137
    @MargatePete6137 5 лет назад

    Iv'e got the first Ioniq ev in Tasmania at the end of February, only done short trips and keep it around full. The only public charger in Tasmania is Launceston, 219 kilometers away, if I did that trip I would certainly be pushing my luck. If I do any long trips I would have to stay overnight at a caravan site and charge overnight. Australia goes to the poles on Saturday, hoping for a change of government to Labor who are promising to put in the charging infrastructure. The current government do not support ev's and yes I had to pay $50,000 dollars for my Ioniq (no incentive).

    • @dreafned
      @dreafned 5 лет назад

      I had my Ioniq year ago. Now driven 33k kilometers. Once met situation of range estimation to zero. Managed to get home. There was some reason my charging failed at morning and mine 32a cord was under repair. I had option to go fast chargers around 20-25 km away. Both were not working. After last option for fast charger failed i had 32km range and 25 km home. Luckily managed on cold autumn morning. Here on Finland public charge network is still growing. Nowadays there are more options. Usually i have enough to get public charger even charging fail on night.

    • @MargatePete6137
      @MargatePete6137 5 лет назад

      Bad news for Australia, against all the poled the government got returned (with a Prim mister that brought a lump of "CLEAN COAL" into parliament, so network of charges yet!

  • @EVChris
    @EVChris 5 лет назад

    The ID3 or the new Ioniq are the only “longer” range EVs I am considering besides the Model 3, depending on what the prices will be. The Kona and eNiro are to expensive compared to Model 3

    • @StuartDWright
      @StuartDWright  5 лет назад

      Will be interesting to find out the costs of the 3 battery sizes of ID.3s. Have you thought about the MG ZS EV?

  • @elliottkeen9933
    @elliottkeen9933 5 лет назад +2

    Hi mate that was unlucky to say the least. I'm not interested in the 38kw car it's not enough difference from our cars.

  • @bbbf09
    @bbbf09 5 лет назад

    A small generator £100 would have given you enough charge in 15mins to get home. Or car battery with invertor.
    Glad I have my bmw i3 with its 28kW generator range extender. I can carry on indefinitely even at motorway speeds if out of e-power.
    Recently, without it, I would have come a cropper recently thanks to ecotricity dysfunctional electric 'highway'

  • @salemazzam6502
    @salemazzam6502 5 лет назад +1

    Let her drive it everyday :)
    And i think I'm getting the second generation Ioniq

    • @StuartDWright
      @StuartDWright  5 лет назад

      She has passed her test, but the insurance would be ridiculous.

  • @daveevans4924
    @daveevans4924 5 лет назад

    I would have used regen on the downhill on motorway to put some juice back in. Thats what i do in my Ioniq

    • @Hans-gb4mv
      @Hans-gb4mv 5 лет назад

      Wouldn't help. Coasting is more power efficient than regenning.

    • @julianguffogg
      @julianguffogg 3 года назад

      @@Hans-gb4mv Can you not coast and regen?? Is power used to regen? if so defeats the object!

  • @julianguffogg
    @julianguffogg 3 года назад

    Not like you didn't get warnings. And don't charge to 100% every night, not good for the battery!

  • @mrskyblue8864
    @mrskyblue8864 4 года назад

    Interesting to see. I‘m hoping that this never happens to me and the Batteries of my Ioniq are always charged enough.
    Actually we are on Holiday with the Ioniq at the Côte Azure in Antibes, 1350km from Home near Hanover in Germany. All went fine, but 13 charging Stops were sporty and especially the charging situation in Italy was difficult. But electric driving works :D

  • @bigdougscommentary5719
    @bigdougscommentary5719 5 лет назад

    Petrol cars, in general, do not have a petrol reserve. They just have inaccurate gas gauge systems.

    • @Hans-gb4mv
      @Hans-gb4mv 5 лет назад

      And tank sizes. My old car had a 60l tank according to the specs. Yet more than once I put in more than 60l.

  • @Plexipal
    @Plexipal 4 года назад

    You live not too far from me

  • @matthewspry4217
    @matthewspry4217 3 года назад

    Why would you travel to a DC fast charger that already had a car connected?? The app reports if a car using it. Sounds like your asking for it. PS nissan leaf owner and Citigroup iev

  • @bigdougscommentary5719
    @bigdougscommentary5719 5 лет назад

    Don’t know anything about the Ioniq, but it’s unlikely that the entertainment system draws from the drive battery.

    • @Hans-gb4mv
      @Hans-gb4mv 5 лет назад +1

      While the contact is on, the 12V line is constantly drawing power from the traction battery.

  • @4yourgarden
    @4yourgarden 5 лет назад +2

    Lol thanks for showing us what a plonker you was a simple charge at home and with your small battery always charge to 100 % no problem.

  • @obiskeyone
    @obiskeyone 5 лет назад

    LOL