Falklands Task Force 1977: Operation Journeyman
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- Find out what happened when Argentina tried to invade the Falklands in 1977, and the British Operation Journeyman to stop them, as well as the operation to eliminate their secret military base in the South Sandwich Islands.
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"locals run for their lives" ^^
Waddle for their lives.
2nd from left was actually cheering!
I snorted.. it was good
I saw that and thought of the penguins in the Madagascar movies. They were the ones who raised the Argentine flag again!
*plays iron maiden-run to the hills*
Mark, your videos are a gift to the internet. Please keep producing these!
i love your username it's very funny how did you come up with it thanks
Tom Howard ha, it’s old. I need a new one. It is honestly somewhat embarrassing and internet folks don’t like to take people with said username seriously. All in good fun though.
YES it puts All the Dump in a big shadow
@@jacobhalczak I don't know about that. I'd take someone with a user name like yours far more seriously than these dellusional people who've taken over most of the western world's media and much of our governments. Some of Mark's videos indirectly make reference to chilling comparisons with today. Lately I've come to the conclusion that unbiased history should be a compulsory 'core' subject for all school students.
Not quite the last action of the Falkland's War. Top Gear managed that feat with the loss of three ridiculously modified cars.
I loved that episode
Interestingly my grandfather who spent his career post war searching for oil told me about the oil around the Falklands in 1976 when I was 10, he told me we didn't have the technology to exploit it back in the 70's. He worked for army intelligence during the war and gave me thousands of roubles worth of unused notes as a child, then he died before I understood the significance of all of it.
At first I thought, oh this is unusual, a story I'm familiar with but at least it will be great to hear Mark's expert telling of it. Quickly I realised I'd never heard of any of this! Thank you and please keep them coming.
I remember the Falkland War. I was touring England and West Germany with my college choir in May 1982. We stayed in the homes of church families, and I remember how concerned our British hosts were about the situation. I was already a U.S. Army Veteran by then, and I totally understood their concerns.
Imagine being a penguin, minding your own penguin business and then suddenly a bunch of abandoned structures blow up sky high. xD
Thanks for the story, Mark. I had no idea of these events, at least not in such detail, and I am from Argentina.
PS: I hope no locals were hurt in the unmaking of our base in South Thule!
I remember Dr David Owen (Foreign Secretary in Callaghan's government) mentioning this about the time of the Falklands War. I seem to think that under Thatcher that HMS Endurance was going to be withdrawn as part of the reduction in defence spending. Galtieri then saw an opportunity thinking that the UK had lost interest in maintaining a presence in the Falklands. The result was that it cost billions of pounds to remove the invaders and worse still the lives of service men/civilians on both sides. This war was about the oil/gas deposits around the Falklands.
"Billions of barrels of oil under the Falklands"
**Americas eyebrow twitches**
I had no idea about the weather base operation on Thule.Learn something every day.
Nice to see the lesser known units of the Task Force getting a mention. We (Yarmouth) intended to give a ‘show of force’ by conducting a gunfire demonstration against Twitcher Rock which was visible from the Argentine base. With six minutes to the gunfire commencement the Argentines surrendered so we never did open fire. The Argentine prisoners were transported to South Georgia on Yarmouth where we transferred them for onward repatriation to Argentina.
In 1978 I worked for a well known gas turbine company and had occasion to spend a week fault finding on the Tyne engines of HMS Alacrity...The overspeed trip units would shut down the engine for no apparent reason which caused some little embarrassment .One of the crew told me about going somewhere south the previous year and that he saw lots of penguins.The crew were reluctant to talk about any special weapons carried by the ships Wasp helicopter but I believe they had nuclear depth bombs on board.
Thanks for making and sharing this series, Mark. Really enjoyed it and learned quite a bit not covered in earlier Falklands documentaries
Mr. Felton I hope you never run out of history to make great videos about!
Can you mention de 1977-1978 potential conflict of Guatemala and Belize, when Britain reinforced belize?
Sadly, what the Argentine military did in 1977 is being repeated by China in the Spratley Islands.
As per usual, I watch a Mark Felton video and I learn something new.
I would be interested if you did one on Popski’s private army a little known hero who has a very interesting story of how he was refused by the British to join he army yet became so vital they then had to employ him. Popski’s exploits go far ahead of the LRDG which morphed into the fledgling SAS
I'll rewatch to support you 😊 I found this very interesting!
Mark's videos have gotten significantly better and more accurate with time. Good job!
6:12 the pinguins still talk to their offspring about this amazing apocalyptic happening in the past.
I had several family thought and one died during this conflict, I'm happy you made these
You should definitely make a video about how Britain deterred an Iraqi invasion of Kuwait in 1961; almost 30 years before Operation Desert Storm.
Great informative video on a subject I’m hearing about for the first time. Thanks again. You rock.
Having been to the FI for 4 months, I have met many of the "Local's" descendents. That caption was brilliant.
My Grandfather was a member of the RN Fleet at the FIRST Battle Of The Falklands during the Great War - the REAL 'First Falklands Task Force'...!!!! During the 1980's Falklands War, he commented - 'We sailed all the way there, fought a battle, and sailed all the way back - and never set-foot on dry land.'. After the Excocet attacks, he commented - 'Those things would have bounced-off our battlewagons'. He was pretty-much right too...!
Doubt it. Exocets are pretty deadly.
Sir Bader modern anti ship missiles can’t penetrate the armor of a battleship
congrats on 200k!
Mark, your stuff is great nicely done.
I remember in Australia when we first heard about this. The first thing was we weren't going to get the old aircraft carrier the UK was going to sell us as it was now pressed into service in the Falklands, but beyond that the whole thing had the faint whiff of an old power trying to relive its glory days and only just being able to pull it off, with equipment that was fast becoming obsolete and much of it due to be scraped. It all seemed a bit sad and the only thing I remember was most Australians were absolutely opposed to us being in any way involved. In the end there was cheers all round when it ended and the Falklands fell back into complete obscurity again. You have to wonder if the young lives lost or left scarred from it on both sides, ever made it worthwhile.
I'm ready to buy a DVD set. Always an excellent video, keep up the good work
great work Mark. Love the recent stuff.
I knew none of (or at least, do not recall) this.
Thank you (yet again) for a very interesting - and well made - video.
I'd never even heard of this. Thanks Mark.
you dig out the details that normal documentaries never get to or simply ignore. Keep up the good work!
Appreciate the effort Dr.
Great Video... Thanks for the maps again....
Another well told story. btw I'll point out for everyone here that you have a selection of books available on Amazon for purchase. Buying there might be an alternate way to help support this work.
Well done, this is new to me and I enjoyed it many thanks.
It should have happened. We still had the 50.000ton Ark Royal with Phantoms. Buccaneers, Gannets and Wessex AND a bigger and more capable navy in '77. This would have provided the perfect argument to replace Ark Royal with similar carriers instead of the little Invincible class.
When was the last time the leftist government of a Western country responded directly to a military incursion?
Ark Royal's existence pretty much explains why it didn't happen.
@@RonJohn63 to the leftists, the only war worth fighting is a class war
@@moelll At the time of this event, the then Prime Minister was James Callaghan, who also led the Labour Party. 5 years later, during the Falklands War, the then Labour Leader Michael Foot, also supported sending a task force to the Falklands. During the Second World War, Churchill would not have become Prime Minister without the support of Clement Atlee and the Labour Party. "Leftists" have been quite willing to go to war when they have deemed it to be in Britain's interests.
Another great video of a military operation I'd never heard of! Keep up the great work!
I love these videos, such interesting pieces that I have generally never heard of before!
Excellent bit of history.
You are really churning these videos out! Nice!
Another very interesting story...love your channel Mark...and what a GREAT voice, is that yours? Regarding Ascension Island, made me recall during the '82 shooting war, I was just a couple years removed from my undergrad Engineering College days and working for a company I will not name. I don't think we were ever told it was classified Secret but we were told to keep it in house, need to know, and though I believe there were some vague press reports at the time I do not think it ever became widely known. Anyway The U.S. supplied JP-4 (used to inflight refuel their long range bombing force flown from England, and I believe also Tendered to the two jump jet mini carriers for the Harriers) and other "supplies" flown into Ascension Island that the Brits used for the invasion. It was widely known the Brits could retake the Falklands but they would have to take risks and put their capital ships in harms way, which they certainly did, but their logistics tail was stretched right to the breaking point and without the extra "supplies" their invasion really would not have been an advisable expedition (a PhD. Engineer who works for a large American defense contractor.
thanks,to,the,yanks,as,always.{space,bar,faulty}
And we tested your sidewinder missiles for you , professionally used by proffessional pilots :)
Glad to catch this one early.
As usual a great job! Please keep on posting as I always find it interesting! It took Thacher to bring back the Falkland under the Union Jack showing the world what a spineless government England had until Thacher became the Prime minister!!
It was under the Union Jack until Argentina invaded it, which chose to do so when the Thatcher government showed extreme weakness on the issue, they wanted to transfer sovereignty of the Falklands to Argentina in 1981. Combine that with the massive defence cuts under the Tory government & that’s the justification the Argentines had to invade. The Callaghan government was smart enough to scare off the Argentines before they could even try an invasion.
@@curtmcw5963 You're absolutely right, Thatcher was a disgrace & utterly horrible woman who only cared about her own interests & not the UK's.
Thatcher...ha she was a typical Tory obsessed in creating a personal legacy....
Vile horrible woman
Paolo Viti In 1982, Thatcher was hugely unpopular. The 1982 conflict ensured electoral victory and the rest as they say is history. Maybe her "inaction" was deliberate.
Never knew about the Argie occupation of Southern Thule till now, even though I've read a few history books on the Falklands. Really interesting
am so enjoying your little storys great work keep it up
Really interesting stuff. Had no idea this happened. I hope no pengiuns got harmed in the demolitions of a base.
*plays iron maiden- run to the hills*
excellent production
(Seeing as this video has replaced the earlier one - thus wiping off all previous comments, I'll just repeat what I had typed earlier!)
The contention held by some that Thatcher is proportionately culpable for the subsequent Falklands War (because she didn't enact her own 'Operation Journeyman' to discourage Argentinian aggression) is ludicrous.
Indeed, 'Journeyman itself deftly proved that Argentine machinations in the region were only POSTPONED by such a fleeting show of force, not abandoned indefinitely!
Therefore, for such an operation to truly be considered a success in discouraging foreign aggression it demonstrably would've had to have been an ongoing, _permanent_ commitment. Hardly a feasible venture for a late seventies 'basket case' Britain given the likely costs involved.
What the Argies did in Southern Thule bears an eerily resemblance to what the Chinese are now doing in the South China Sea! If history is any guide, aggression needs to be deterred - and must be done convincingly to avoid a bigger conflict in the future.
I think the Chinese have built some fairly large military bases on land they created from reefs. They are supposed to be well defended. Some of the territory claimed in the South China sea is very close to the Philipines, Malaysia, Indonesia and Vietnam. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_disputes_in_the_South_China_Sea
@@simonkevnorris yes and people think the one party dictatorship chinese state is a passive state , but its quietly building an empire accross the world :)
would love to see a video on the entire Falkland War.
Well now I finally know why both sides view a tiny little island chain as so important. I had no clue there was oil
Jesus....you only realised that...lol
Derek Tweedie I never gave it much thought… I always just thought “Jesus is just a tiny little bunch of freezing islands… Just let the Argentines have it “
Because Antarctica is close, and Britain has a claim to the same portion of Antartic territory Argentina and Chile claim. It is also believed there is oil in Antartica.
Another advantage to Britain and NATO is the fact that the only natural connection between the Atlantic and the Pacific that doesn't freeze is just west of the Falklands. If they can't go through Panama they will sail through the Magellan strait or the Drake passage.
Which is why I, as an Argentine, don't like the military pressence of Britain and NATO here. If war breaks between east and west they will bring conflict here. Besides, they threaten our own interests to a part of the world that never had anything to do with Great Britain.
You didn't see them that much interested in Hong Kong, Rhodesia or other former colonies when they handed them back, did you?
Love your videos mark keep it up !
smirk!snort,titter.
1977, when Hong Kong was still a British colony and flourished in a sad contrast today :(
Love the content!
And at the same time Rhodesia was being surrendered to Mugabe and his afro-centric, marxist guerrillas. Ah, good times indeed. Zimbabwe is also looking great today.
Shame they didn't hand back the Falklands that easily. I wonder why.
Undoubtedly, if Maggie had acted responsibly then it's likely that the 1982 war would have been avoided.
Politicians seem to know nothing about national stategy, or international politics overall , they spend their whole lives climbing up the political pole. Then when they get into big boys world thry do silly things like iraq or libya :)
Yeah because the Junta who invaded had nothing at all to do with it
I had an English girl friend named Pheobe. She worked for the UK Embassy in Washington D.C. during the early 90s. Surely she was MI 6. Couldn't my imagine any other reason her to faine attraction to a lifeguard at her pool topped condo in Chevy Chase. Those were the grand hallcion daze. 😀❤🇬🇧👙 🍺👙🍸🍷🍷
You sure "Pheobe" was her real name? XD
I'm killing myself
Pool topped condo in Chevy chase?
@@wirelessone2986 Not specific enough?
Chili Prepper *feign *halcyon, other than crazy spelling I have no idea what you’re talking about.
So it was about oil and not 🐧 market.
After WWII, it's almost always either about Communism/Capitalism or Oil.
Indeed. They don't give a fuck about who's living there.
They didn't when they gave Hong Kong to China, or when they conspired with the afro-centric marxist guerrillas and the international community against British Rhodesians. Now Rhodesia is Zimbabwe and all of the British living there either fled, got murdered by angry mobs, or are living under constant threat. As for Hong Kong, soon it will be China, and the citizens never had a say regarding that. Not a single referendum was held then.
Only reason they care so much about the Falklands is oil, oil and its strategic location near Antarctica and the only natural pass between the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans that doesn't freeze during winter.
I don't want the British (and NATO) in front of our coastline threatening peace and our interests by pretending they're still an empire. I wish they just left, but alas, I guess they came here to stay.
Excellent work Mark!
Best videos glad to see your channel growing keep up the good work.
Locals 😂😂. Great video as always!
Hail Britannia !
Amazing video as always!
Great video thanks Mark
Excellent and stylish narrative. Good man yourself!
Very interesting and well done... however at 2:50 there is a type 22 batch 1 ... you can.. I am sure see the seawolf sextuple launcher behind the exocet bank
Delighted for the re-upload as I missed this gem first time round. I wonder if the Argi's have also revisited again ;-)
Of course not, it was the Penguins raising those flags, the damn feathery little traitors 😤 😂
Bloody love ya movies m8. Great start rif 2
Great story...never heard of this.
I hope none of the locals were harmed when they blew up the base
there are no locals
Awesome vid pal you do history at its best, have a nice day. :)
Why the reupload?
Endless people telling me I'd used the wrong photograph of RFA Tidespring, the new rather than the old vessel. So corrected and reloaded!
@@MarkFeltonProductions Appreciate the dedication to quality to not just brush that off!
@@MarkFeltonProductions : Now THAT'S dedication! Bravo!
@@MarkFeltonProductions Ah
We will have no more argy bargy from the Argies
Great stuff Mark
I frickin love you mark felton.
We should send more British citizen to the Falklands islands that want to live on them gorgeous islands .. having had the chance to go there I was amazed how beautiful it is down there .. .. when I was there we were doing landmine disposal has 25% of the islands are covered in landmine most of which are plastic and glass landmines which the Argentinians didn't even mark out on maps or even marked minefields out .. which is against the Geneva convention .. and Argentina should be paying us the clear them ..
Excellent Episode Indeed Most informative !!!
thanks for this - you are awesome
Very concise. Thanks.
if anyone thinks that we don`t need Argentina to help fully exploit the resouces in & around the Falkands they are sadly mistaken.
Erm....one name.......British Petroleum...?..dont think they need Argentina for anything useful
As: Good point. However, the Argies have screwed up possibility of partnership twice now, haven't they?
thanks. I was too small in 1977 to remember that!
Fantastic video of a time in history I knew little of
The Thatcher government were told repeatedly how the withdrawal of HMS Endurance would be viewed by the junta in Buenos Aires, eager for a foreign policy coup, as a green light.
So Maggie gets the plaudits. She should have resigned in shame and her statue in Port Stanley should be a focal point of derision.
Well done. Very enjoyable
The Thatcher government, it could be argued, undid the signal sent earlier by Callaghan, by pulling funding for ongoing operation of HMS Endurance in the South Atlantic. How different history could have been and how many fewer lives would have been lost.
HMS Endrance wear her name very well, It seems like this ship is on every video of the Falkland war
re-edited?
Wow!! I thought i had followed this conflict pretty closely. I missed all of this in the South sandwich Islands.
From numerous sources, argentine submarine launched torpedoes wildly malfunctioned during that war. Nine people sounds allot like a special forces insertion from a small craft like a submarine.
I dont know how many submarines the Argentinian navy operated in 1982, but there is a possibility there was an Argentine submarine and marines assigned to that base and merely reinvaded the island after the british up and left the scene due to their torpedoes being unable to work properly.
One thing I notice about anything to do with the conflict...whoever possible there seemed to be a Detente of a kind between the opposing sides. Prisoners well treated, no unnecessary massacres etc
It was, despite the horrors of any kind of war, a very civilized conflict. I believe that is why there were not many casualties.
For example, during the takeover of the islands and the assault on the governor's house, Argentine infantry refused to use much force because they didn't want to piss Britain and thought they would hand back the islands. Despite suffering losses, they held until the British garrison surrendered without casualties. Argentine soldiers were also forbidden from interacting with the islanders.
This explains a lot, perhaps even the Argentine failure to take submarine threats more seriously in 1982.
Thanks, just subscribed.
Love these recent Falklands vids Dr. Felton, what about the 1966 incident involving the taking of a small plane during an early attempt on the islands?
I'm really enjoying the Falklands episodes. This event happened when I was a child and I have never examined it. Since I am an American of English descent, it's easy to pick sides lol.
Thanks - Enjoyed that
Wow very interesting folk keep up the great work :)
Taking many leaves from the soviet book of claims :"What is near me is mine !"
Very interesting and thanks for posting. It must have been frustrating for the RN acting under Callaghan's wishy washy restrictions.