What Happened to Nazi Leaders' Luxury Planes?
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2022
- The Nazi leaders all had dedicated Focke-Wulf 200 Condor planes for their use from Hitler's special squadron. At the end of the war in 1945, what became of these luxury aircraft?
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Regardless of how specific or obscure they may be, I have a feeling any WWII related question I ever had will eventually be answered by Dr. Felton in the course of time
Well said!
Yes, I was wondering where Hermann goering bought his dresses from but apparently it's the subject of next week's video lol , whatever you think of asking DR Felton has it covered
That's why I watch. He regularly answers questions I never asked but also many I'd have never thought of asking.
maybe he could answer the question - who funded the nsdap?
This just in Himmlers lost cereal bowl has been found by Felton at a flea market in Split, Croatia. You won’t believe how it got there!
The entire collection of US aircraft that had been set aside by order of General Arnold was scrapped when a low level bureaucrat from the War Assets Department on tour at Davis-Monthan storage facility gave the order. It took the USAF many decades to recover from that historic blunder. People in Government were very short sighted then and held little regard for anything that cost money and served no useful purpose. The historic USS Enterprize was broken up without so much of a glance of public interest directed at it. One man was responsible for saving the "Memphis Belle" and one man was responsible for saving "U-505" U Boat. One man was responsible for saving the only flying original A6M5c Zero fighter. One man was responsible for saving the last Japanese "Emily" flying boat and so we see that it is the efforts of individuals that preserve history, not institutions.
This is correct. The only known examples of both the Dornier Do 335 and Arado Ar 234 are preserved at the Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center, National Air and Space Museum in Virginia. Both were onboard the HMS Reaper when it transported the aircraft to the US.
So true… however preserving a single aircraft is a lot easier than preserving an aircraft carrier and making it a museum. Damn shame the ex-USS Enterprise was scrapped.
Amen to that sir
Well stated.
@@Idahoguy10157 The keel for the Enterprise was just laid recently..😃
For those who like the Fw.200 and also like prowling in Google Earth: there is that function called 'historic images' that displays a time scale and allows to see the available previous versions of the satellite imagery.
In Berlin this function shows results for 1945 and 1943 (obviously they are not satellite pictures but aerial photo recconnaisance / photogrametry). If we focus on the former airport of Berlin Tempelhof airport the 1943 picture shows lots of planes formed in front of the terminal; they look like biplanes and this makes me think that the actual picture date should be in the interwar period.
In the 1945 picture there is a beautiful Fw.200 Kondor in an anti-bomb shelter in the southern end of the airport (lat. 52.466332°N, long. 13.403568°E).
Damn bro glad to see someone’s gone down the google earth rabbit hole!
I never noticed the Condor, but after traveling to Berlin about a year ago examined the whole city, including Tempelhof, with historical imagery. Can really see the extent to which the city was destroyed, as well as a lot of craters in the airfield in '45. I too noticed the biplanes and other basic aircraft in '43, my speculation is that it was a training squadron who used them to train new pilots, these aircraft not used in combat. Perhaps the Buker Bu 131 Jungmann, Fw 44, and Go 145.
I never knew about this feature, thank you!
If this is not enough try the Historical Images in Kiel (theoretically 1943, but as far as there is a Bismarck class battleship in a floating dock, it can't be 1943) or Warsaw (pictures from 1939 and horryfing 1945)
How can you be sure that what you’re seeing is real? That it’s not been fixed in any way?
I’m not suggesting it is, but if it was, how would you know?
The beauty of this channel is you just don't know what subject is going to be covered by Mark Felton in every new video.
another fake RUclips Historian
You never run out of interesting stuff, Mark!
World was at war for nearly six years, a hundred million dead, whole continents aflame. It is only natural that the stories never end.
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I wonder if the British Government's decision to scrap Himmler's Condor was more a result of the embarrassment caused by Himmler's death while in their custody. With his plane on display, their F up would always be remembered; something the UK government could not abide. In any case, they were beautiful aircraft.
Probably right.
More likely forestalling the German's penchant for fetishising shrines.
@@vespelian have you seen the west? Every village, every town, every city I’ve toured from Britain to Australia has memories and guns and paraphernalia. What’s that if not shrines.
@@xr6ladNo, they are memorials and exhibits, not the personal property of priests of a race religion such as Himmler.
@@vespelian So given that Germany has exactly the same - memorials and exhibits - I fail to see where this "penchant for fetishizing shrines" is supposed to come from.
Fw 200 was such a beautiful aircraft, I’m glad the only surviving airframe is being restored
Same, my favorite ww3 era aircraft
@@arthurmckay4202 wait, was there a war I didn't know about??
@Funky Monk Since we had the good sense to start numbering them ,we have only got to WW2 so far . Spot the typo Arthur .
My father hated them. He served escorting convoys for the RCN in the North Atlantic. If a Condor was seen, it meant that U boats would be directed their way.
Mark Felton is brilliant. I never miss an episode. I have never been disappointed.
Given the total air superiority of the allies in the last months of war I'm really surprised any German aircraft could make long distance trips without getting shot down.
I definitely agree with Dr. Felton, dispite its history Himmler's personal plane should of been preserved as a part of aviation history.
They probably stayed close to the ground to avoid detection by Allied aircraft and kept their fingers crossed!
In WWII era you pretty much had to have your own human eyeballs on an aircraft to destroy it. Today electronics and sensors can see aircraft across the globe...
@@frank9592 MH370.
@@davesherry5384 what does a 2014 crash have to do with WWII?
@@frank9592 He is referring to that MH370 went 'lost' and was never found in spite of the most extensive and expensive search in history and that the electronics and sensors may not be all they are made out to be.
Fw-200 condor is a terrifying beastly bomber during the battle of the Atlantic. But it’s good to see the only surviving fw-200 have be restored and now displayed in the museum. Great history Dr Felton.
Regarding this restoration of an FW-200, that has been broken to pieces during its salvage from a lake bed in Norway, it's more a reconstruction than a restoration. And with no manufacturer's records left and no other plane survived, many parts of it simply could not been rebuild because no one knows what they looked like.
The aircraft is currently displayed by a museum in Berlin (Tempelhof Airfield, Hangar 7), having been restored in a presentable but unairworthy condition by retired Airbus employees in Hamburg.
The FW-200 Condor first served as quite an elegant, beautiful airliner.
It is regrettable that almost all WW2 aircraft were destroyed after WW2.
Hundreds of thousands were built, but only handfuls remain.
As were many thousands of allied aircraft simply because they were no longer needed and there wasn't any practical storage space for them anywhere.
Well we were trying to wreck them all.
Also consider that everyone on all sides were sick of war.
@@simongee8928 They could have been offered to allies, the Nationalist free Chinese could have used them against the Communist Chinese.
@@jacqueslefave4296 After five years of war, the victorious nations probably wanted to simply move on, recover and develops. Plus the situation in China was something that most preferred not to get involved in. They had their own domestic problems.
By the way:
Two Condors have been in service in south america at Syndicado Condor. Two in Denmark operated by DDL.
And a number of captured Condors flew commercial transports in Russia for Aeroflot arctic service until the 1950th.
A number of military Condors landed in Spain. Some of them were used for spare parts, to keep 3 Condors operational for Spanish Airforce. Operation ended around 1950 and the Condors have been scraped
In Spain a Fw.200 Kondor and a rarer Ju.290 were interned during the war and later acquired.
Both flew well into the 50s and both were sadly scrapped.
Where in South America?
Operated in Brazil by Cruzeiro do Sul (founded in 1927 as Syndicato Condor Ltda by Deutsche Luft Hansa).
2 FW 200 with registration
PP-PCK and PP - ???.
Service in Brazil ended in 1950.
@@volkerleiste6191 thanks... Beautiful aircraft
Coffee wasn’t doing it for me today. Felton video drops in: all cylinders now firing, radial engines thrumming.
Very informative and interesting. As always, an extraordinary report delivered by a source known for such! Thanks again for your tireless research!
Thanks for sharing this video Mark! Very intersting video as always!
The english pilot William Gren that has flown Heinkel 111 -177- 110-Focke-Wulf 190-189 and Arado 234 and Himmlers Fw-200 Condor mention in the book he wrote about flying the enemys planes that it was a beatyful plane to fly and it also looks good - Here in Denmark the company DHL also flew Focke-Wulf Fw-200 as a civilian passenger plane - the strange story of where it ended up after the war was that the wings where taken off and scrapped and the fuselage was taken trough copenhagen on a trailer and the fuselage was lifted into an alotment garden and was finaly used to house chicken in , damm shame all together it was
So concise and beautifully put across.
Well himmer was once a chicken farmer. Things have truly come full circle
To bret O - Die Treue Heinrich Himmlers was a chicken farmer and a teacher in a small village school - but most of all he was a fool
Read Eric Browns Wings of the Luftwaffe
100,000+ views in 8 hours, your success is definitely deserved for such excellent content Dr. Felton.
Mark, I honestly believe you never sleep! Another great video! 👍👍👍👍👍
Well first time I've been early, I never miss this channel
One man's trash is another man's treasure. Thank you for your new video Mr. Felton!
They really had ZERO sense of historic preservation of WW2 gear, especially German gear, after the war. And they still don't when they retire current military gear after retiring it.
Great video! Very interesting with fascinating archive film footage. Well done again Dr. Felton!
Anyone notice the wheel catching on fire at the 7-8 second mark of the video. I wonder if the breaks were way over heated? Awesome video!
Another engaging production by RUclips's premier producer of the WWII videos that keep thousands of us engaged. Excellent, as always. I can't help but note, Mark, that you make no mention, at least in passing, of the significance of the incident captured at the very start of this video. The aircraft carrying Hitler has just landed and as it taxis to the spot where Hitler will de-plane in front of the entourage waiting to greet him, smoke and fire can be seen coming from the left landing gear. Specifically, the area of the brake linings which obviously overheated when the pilot applied force to stop the aircraft on landing. Just imagine if this fire had occurred on take-off instead. The gear would have tucked up into the wing and smoldered as the plane climbed to altitude with its pilot and crew and VIP passenger unaware of what was happening. Eventually the engine and wing would have caught fire and probably exploded, bringing to an untimely end Hitler's reign without the unconditional surrender the Allies insisted. How different the outcome of WWII might have been! (BTW, I have read about this incident, which I believe occurred when Hitler was visiting Finland or the front in Russia) and maybe perhaps seen a video of it that for all I know was produced by MFP.) But it really did happen, as the film captured.
I think it's important to remember when discussing the unfortunate scrapping of so many planes that Britain was bankrupt at the end of WW2. The country was subsequently to live through many years of austerity. Meat was the last item to come off ration and that was in 1954. Aside from the scrap value there simply wasn't the money available for the long term storage, maintenance, and display of captured planes, tanks etc. We had run up massive debt with the US through lend-lease, and we had to pay back every cent of it. The final payment was only made in 2006!
Thats astonding...only 2006..thats 2 generations payed for that war.
Can I say is that why the biggest WWll era ship preserved by the British was the HMS Belfast
Yes, so true. The excellent Sir Anthony Hopkins film "84 Charing Cross Road" is a prime
example of post war UK conditions. But all things in moderation and some items could have been saved.
and all because they declared war on Germany because of its invasion of half of Poland..and what happened to Paoland at the end of the war...it was under the rule of Stalin the biggest massM in history....conclusion...the war was planned to crush German technical and social superiority and to stop the Jays being thrown out of the rest of Europe
Interesting
Learning quite a bit more of actual history than ever learned over the years right here. Thanks again for another GREAT history lesson Doc!
Thanks Dr. Felton!
I’m always impressed by the details provided by Dr Felton !
Very interesting documentary. One would’ve thought that a few would’ve been stored for display.
Dr Felton, you should do a video on the German spy who parachuted into the UK during WW2 and was executed at the tower of London. Great channel
I think I have seen that story from Doco's on the Tower Of London
And here's the script for that video ...
*[Intro music]*
Not many people know of an intriguing spy drama which played out in London during World War Two.
A German spy parachuted into England - unfortunately for him and The Third Reich, he was captured and executed at The Tower Of London.
*[Outro music]*
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@@vk2ig Nicely done, my friend.
You never cease to amaze...the best footage and narration.
Amazing research....Thanks
Very interesting and informative. I always look forward to your videos. Please continue the good work.
Dr Felton I love all your stories regarding WW2 and the nazis especially about goering and himmler 🙏🏻
Always a good day when a mark felton video gets uploaded
Every time I see Hitler's plane land I look at the landing gear. I cannot unsee the fire now thanks to you Mr. Felton.
Thanks so much for all your facinating account of what really happened to Hitler's aircraft, I think you're so in touch with WWll historical information.
Thanks Mark. As always, very educational.
Dr. Felton. You never disappoint with your videos or your books. Thank you for the continuous enlightenment.
Thank you, Dr. Felton!
Did anyone else notice the opening shot of the Condor taxiing that the left front brake was on fire. Nobody seemed to care of the officers walking past the camera.
The last officer is watching it. It's also the same plan in the next shot (same fuselage ID) from which Hitler emerges.
I would like to ask a request from you Mark, Dr. Felton, and that being: Could you ever show an inside of how you put together this videos? What's your research process, where do you find your sources, how long it takes for you since the idea was concieved to the video being released on YT... and so on (the how is made, special edition Felton productions) Hope this appears in your channel one day. In any case thanks yet again for another fantastic video to add to your impeccable colection!
Among the best historical channels on RUclips
Mark Feltons narration is brilliant
The New York Central RR didn't preserve any Hudson type locos either. Incredibly tragic.
But one Mohawk survives
@@samuelogden6706 Two, one in Elkhart Indiana and the other in St Louis.
Downright shocking really, considering that in the 1920's through the 1940's the NYC boasted of their Hudson type locomotives and were immensly proud of them.
@@tredw66 There's been talk on-and-off for years about restoring the Mohawk in Elkhart to operations, but there's too many "turf wars" going on over the locomotive between the city of Elkhart and the NYC Museum where the locomotive is for any progress to be made. At least it's still there, that's something.
So great! These are the things I wonder about, but have never been able to find, as others think about work issues at their jobs, I am off in the Felton History Clouds, staring out the windows of Speer's airplane.
In my opinion, Mark's documentaries are above and beyond any others!
Every time I watch one of your videos, I can't help myself but appreciate your moral objectivity and corolful attention to detail.
This as well as the luxury trains that Hitler and Göring had, have always intrigued me.. thank you for covering this topic.
Good job mark! Thanks so much always wondered what happened to those planes.
Dr. Felton you deserve some sort of medal for your tireless work!
Dr Felton is one of the best, and has soooo much more to do to educate us properly since we’re “told” nonsense about WW2 in school here in America
We won WWII?
No! Not possible! We should never have won that war, we didn’t deserve to!
Oh, excuse me….
Time to take my meds and go to bed…
Before I do that, gotta make sure my robe that buttons in the back is on right…..
I could hang out with Mark Felton and listen to him speak for many hours about all things WW2.
Several Condors were lost at Stalingrad, not to enemy fire. The pilots had been forewarned not to shut off the engines upon landing at Pitomnik. These crews from their Atlantic stations with (1 Gruppe Kampfgeschwader 40) did not understand the severity of the freezing temperatures and shut the engines off and the could not be restarted as heaters were in short supply.
Ground crews were dismayed at the destruction of these aircraft due to this oversight.
That photo at 11:57 is amazing. So many rare birds!
another awesome video Dr. Felton please never stop!!
Your channel, content, and presentation, is absolutely stellar. All this information needs to go into some kind of conservation vault, for future humans/intelligent life.
Note To Hollywood, I would definitely go to the movie theater to watch a film with Hitler bailing out of a plane in that grandma chair!
A wonderful historical coverage
Very good channel,every video is amazing
Such was the demand for scrap aluminium after the war, that many a piston engined aircraft that was not used by the military was sold or reused in civilian aviation, was scrapped and melted down and even the magnesium alloys in aircraft found other uses. Most of the military aircraft engines were most lIkely used in civilian aviation post war or scrapped for metal after the war and at the end of their service lives. Unfortunately the Fockwulf Condor did suffer from fuselage problems in military service, as it initially was lightly constructed as a civilian airliner for the Atlantic crossings to South America. Some were lost or had to go under extensive repair after these fuselarge failures of the airframe aft of the wings and before the tail assembly. Who cared much for piston engined aircraft in the late 1940's and early 1950's, where the buzz word "Jet" was bandied about, the future was seen in Jet engines and the designers and aviation engineers took this direction in civilian and military aviation. Only in support roles that didn't require speed such as in civilian, regional and commuter aviation, maritime patrol and freight logistics were piston and then turbo prop engined aircraft, propeller aircraft were used.
That's right. They suffered from to much material stress in the area wings/fuselage as well behind the wings at the fuselage. Caused by adding the "defence compartment" under the fuselage.
Furthermore these critical parts were made from an very light aloy called "Elektron".
I had built a model of a Fw 200 from Kampfgeschwader 40, it's a beauty 🤩
Wow another great story! Thanks Dr Felton!
Thank You Mr. Mark Felton.
Another interesting bit of WW2 history. Will you be taking a look at the Shetland Bus at some point?
It’s surprising that any British WW11 aircraft survived at all let alone captured German planes given our enthusiasm for scrapping everything - for example unlike our friends across the pond we didn’t save a single battleship for posterity and display 🇬🇧
Wut? Did you forget that HMS Belfast is on display in London?
@@eddiewillers1 But they don't have actual battleships. HMS Belfast is not a battleship it is a Town-class light cruiser. I wish they would have saved HMS Vanguard or HMS Warspite.
@@wesleypeters4112 Fair enough - Belfast is/was a cruiser. I do agree that it would have been way cool to have something like a dreadnought preserved.
@@eddiewillers1 as fine a ship as it is, it’s only a light cruiser. HMS Warspite it is not.
I have been told that the U.S. Battleship Texas is still around and is on its way to a shipyard to receive 13 million dollars worth of restorations before it will be put back on permanent display in Texas.
Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up
Thanks. As always an excellent video.
IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM !!-Mark Felton
Another interesting video Doctor Felton!
Yes it's a shame none of those Condors were preserved, not so much for who flew in them but as interesting developments in airline technology and adaptation for military use. It's sad when any type of historic aircraft goes extinct, once they're gone there's no bringing them back. You can build a replica of course, but at the end of the day a replica is all you have.
Rather like the F-14. I wince every time I see one being dismantled.
@@jkoysza1 Right. Aside from museum pieces there's not much chance of many Fox-14's surviving. They'll never make it into civilian ownership like many of the WW2 aircraft did.
Always so enjoyable to listen to.
So much research and detail.
Thank you for all your work.
Your visuals and narration are the highlights to your story
The Hits just keep on coming! In Mark's world, I'm getting the feeling we're all part of something bigger than us!
Really suprised that there aren't more of these planes restored a great oversight as they were incredible Machines for their time
Britain was broke, things were worse up to the 50s than they were during the War. It was more important to rebuild the Country and feed its people than worry about preserving planes etc
Yet another supremely interesting video, cheers Doc 👍
Outstanding video and presentation.
Looking back through time it' is indeed sad that some of these aircraft are gone. But I imagine at the same time many people didn't want any reminders of the Nazi regime to be preserved.
Except their brutal experiments done on humans (along with Japanese counterparts )
Brutal experiment Reports/findings*
@@imalwaysright1408 😂😂😂
@@imalwaysright1408 The Jap and German teams who'd used human 'guinea pigs' in (usually-fatal) tests of poison gases and disease-spreading were shipped off to the States to continue their 'research' for the benefit of all mankind.
18 seconds? might be a new record for me.
Mark. Thanks for providing my Tuesday night Entertainment!
Keep 'em coming Mark!
No one appreciates history until 50 years or more after the events. So true and so sad.
start printing out your digital photos and putting details on the back as there will be Family "blackholes" on memories in future ( left on dead phones )
42 likes, no views, and 12 comments that I can't see. But very interesting video, thank you again Mark.
The views will be shown when you reload the video. Extra comments can be seen in comments first settings. You tube shadow bans many.
Interesting Dr. Felton!
Thank you for the fantastic information.
Both of the Arado Ar 196 float planes from the German Crusier Prinz Eugen are preserved (both are undergoing restoration). One is at the National Air and Space Museum, Paul E. Garber Facility in Maryland and the other is located in Nordholz, Germany.
Always loved the Kondor!
Just echoing everyone applauding you Dr. Felton. We appreciate your hard work!
Interesting video, thank you Dr. Felton!
I remember I made an Airfix model of this for my son.The undercarriage was jolly difficult to do late one evening. It was a lovely plane.
I still remember Flugkapitän Herrmann Nein as commander of the "Führerbegleitmaschine" who lived in my neigborhood in the City of Erlangen.
Herrmann Nein was flight capitain of the old Luft Hansa and made serval transatlantic crossings with Dornier flying boats.
After the war he run the large painting shop of his family in Erlangen (Maler- und Stuckateurgeschäft). Furthermore he was leading member of Erlangen flying Club and chairman of the association of bavarian flying clubs.
He lived in a manor at so called "Eichenwald" in the north of Erlangen.
Thank you Mark. The videos are wonderful.
Thank you Mr F…..great episode
Excellent video featuring very rare photos of Hitler`s luxury plane. Thank you Mark for all your research and efforts. Hard to believe there was never a decision made by Hitler to fly out the female secretaries and children from the Berlin bunker to safety. Fascinating content !
Love the Ju52!
In Brazil, two F 200s flew for a few years on Sindicato Condor, a subsidiary of Luftansa, then transferred to Cruzeiro do Sul. Coming to Brazil on a night crossing of the Atlantic on the 3,050-kilometer journey between Bathurst, West Africa, and Natal Brazil, by land plane, constituted an unprecedented feat in the southern hemisphere. The flight from Berlin to Rio de Janeiro lasted 35 hours, not including stopovers. Until then, the conviction persisted that transoceanic flights could only be carried out by seaplanes or amphibians, which could land in an emergency situation.
The Focke-Wulf represented a new stimulus. All-metal quad-engine with capacity for 26 seats, reached 340 kilometers per hour, amazing speed for those days, covered more than 1,500 kilometers without needing to refuel and flew at altitudes of up to 4,000 meters. They had the prefixes PP-CBI and PP-CPK.
The last of these aircraft accumulated more than 5,500 flight hours, and was dismantled in Rio de Janeiro at the Caju workshops in the 1950s.
Thank you and have a good week.
Mark in the 1920"s 7 US Destroyers ran aground at Honda Point Califorina. Would love to see a video on that subject.
Interesting video. I wonder if the Ju52 that is in Where Eagles Dare still exists today.
Almost certainly. The film was made in 1968 so it’s highly unlikely that such a historic aircraft would be scrapped at that late date. There are several Ju-52s still in flying condition.
Great job Dr Felton 🎩
Great video, Mark.