There is actually a treasure trove of "what if" alternate history in Japan. According to their local legend, the Tang Dynasty beauty Yang Gui Fei faked her execution and went to Japan.
Gogen Yamaguchi (山口剛玄) once wrote: "It's easy to listen to what you are taught. But it's difficult to find what you have within yourself and master it as yor own"
as one article I have read. to compare the unifiers, it to look at their response to a songbird that refuses to sing. Nobunaga: if the bird won't sing, kill it. (unity through force) Hideyoshi: if the bird won't sing, coerce it to sing (unity through diplomacy) Ieyasu: if the bird won't sing, wait for it to sing. (unity through perseverance)
Hideyoshi is definitely my favorite of the unifiers, coming from the much harder social status while having a great balance of traits compared to the ruthlessness of Nobunaga and the cautiousness of Ieyasu 🤔
Unless Mitsuhide is a complete fool he would have revealed Hideyoshi's part in the conspiracy before they fought, plus he and Hideyoshi hated one another by all accounts. Also it was a near run thing where any one of Nobunaga's other vassals could have beaten Hideyoshi to killing Mitsuhide and claimed vengeance for Nobunaga, thus putting them in position to lead the Oda clan afterwards.
Sus af, when you rose to power from having nothing at all that person will become addicted and greedy to power, which he probably used some kind of proxy to make the coup, and already planning so much in advance so his journey back will be swift.
@@krimzonstriker7534 Eh, not really. Hideyoshi was the only one with a large army and he is the one who brought Nobunaga closer, and for no tactical reason. The "Akechi fucking hated Hideyoshi" thing tho is true. Its unlikely Hideyoshi just silver tongued him.
“Hideyoshi! Ieyasu! You idiots are gonna be getting an asskicking from me because you ruined my family big time and screwed up my ambition! If ever I get the chance to leave Hell and visit Earth, I’ll burn all you and your lackeys down!” -Oda Nobunaga
Ah... Hideyoshi the man of Irony. The peasant who was able to rise up through the ranks to be at the highest post (he can be) who issued the Separation Edict... The law which prevents other peasants to be able to do the same... Hideyoshi, A hard-working man turned Tyrant... One case of "Absolute power corrupts absolutely". I mean... It's not that hard to see how it came to this. Hideyoshi's life is basically a story of "bullied nerd turned bullies' boss". As an ambitious man who wants to rise through the rank... Even though his skills and merits are greater than many of his peers, He needs to act humble and meek... Making himself seen as a useful clown in order to avoid all the jealousy and as many problems as he can from other officers since he's just a lowborn peasant in the rank of Samurai. With all those pent-up feelings from the humiliations he has to put up with, It's not that surprising to see him go mad with power when he finally reached the top where everyone has to suck up to him (or face his army).
What a strange guy, I just somewhat can't come to show my compassion towards Hideyoshi. Oda Nobunaga will always be my favourite, I still have yet to play the Oda clan on TW: Shogun 2 lol
@@nightstriker3994 good guy turn bad guy due to power corruption, or simply bad guy backstory depend on when you view it. If you put it that way it will be easier to understand
That's not what he did, you know. The separation edict says that the citizenry had to choose to become a full time samurai or a full time farmer and stick with it. At the time, soldiers were conscripted from the peasantry, so the people farm when there's no battle, but had to suit up for battle when there's war. Because of this, if the army ever lost too many soldiers, then nobody can farm, and it will cause economic problems. With this edict, those who don't want to fight can just farm full time, and those who want to be soldiers don't have to be farmers even when there's no fighting.
@@user-anonymous-01234 Which resulted in peasant forcing to only be farmer or/and solider. If any peasant abandons their fields and engages in commerce or wage labor, not only they themself but their fellow villagers will be punished. Those not involved in either military service or working the fields will be investigated and expelled. Meaning... Lesser chance for low-born person to become able or/and to rise up to a high position. With rule which mandated that peasant can only stick to two designated things or else be punish, That's narrowed down the ways for ordinary low-class citizen to achieve great enough merit(s) to earn a standing on the ground where they could start claiming ranks. Not to mention that It's not only limiting the probability of taking on the extraordinary path of succession like the one Hideyoshi takes but also discouraging people to do so. Talents and connections are pursued and cultivated... With lesser to almost no prospect of using them to better one standing, Any ability other than what needed to do their designated job(s) is likely to be disregarded as useless or not worth spending time acquiring for most people at the time which lead to a lower rate of capability from peasant class. So... Whether Hideyoshi intended for that to happen or not, He did make it harder for other fellow low-born individuals to be able to do what he did.
The way I've heard it, Hideyoshi ordered the death of Rikyu because he was paranoid about being usurped and had heard rumours that the teamaster was connected to a plot to have him assassinated.
There are just too many mysteries in the sengoku era. We can't know for sure what happened. Some scholars even claimed that it was unlikely that Rikyu was part of an assassination plot because he would be executed instead of given the chance to preserve his honour with seppuku.
Hideyoshi was certainly consumed by hubris, but the Ming at the time was experiencing some serious rot. The Wokou years showed how bad it was till the reforms by Qi Jiquang helped stem the tide. If the invasion happened some four decades later, their main rival would be the Qing
One other factor that made the whole successor issue of whose amongst ol Nobby's remaining sons should take over the clan,even more muddy and complex,is that it is unclear whether who's older between Nobutaka and Nobukatsu is. because they have different mothers. Nobutaka's mum is a peasant woman named Sakichi, whilst Nobukatsu's mum is lady Kitsune,a daughter of the wealthy Ikoma clan. Who,in turn kinda block off Hideyoshi's initial support for his choice of Nobukatsu,since y'know,if you are the Ikoma,why would you gave Nobukatsu up into Hideyoshi's sway? so Hideyoshi took Hidenobu instead. And in retaliation, Nobukatsu asked for Tokugawa's support. Which in turn,might looked very unfavorable for the rest of the inner retainer clans of the Oda,I mean,the inner retainer clans would think: why would you ask for help from outsider clans when we are still here? You don't trust us? It might pushed them to the other camps. leaving Nobukatsu's block of supporters really bare and scattered all over. The odds is firmly stacked against poor ol'Nobutaka here,granted he showed some political savy by getting Shibata's support using her aunt and by knowing Shibata at that point don't have an heir yet (Shibata's heir died young). And if I might add,as mentioned,Rikyu Sen's execution is also motivated by how influential he is among the merchants of Sakai,a very lucrative port town near Osaka where Hideyoshi is building his powerbase. With Rikyu gone,all that wealth is easier for Hideyoshi to take and utilize.
Shocking. I've heard so many great things about Oda Nobunaga, how his clan in one of the castles was severely outnumbered by the enemy. There were 300 soldiers, whereas the enemy had around 1000 and the Oda side still won because the enemy got overconfident and drank the night before the castle siege. The 300 soldiers ambushed them at the location the opposing side was located and killed the generals, which meant the opposing side had nobody to command them so they did not resist after the Oda soldiers assassinated the generals. I've also heard that Hideyoshi was also pretty meh, since he failed during the Japanese invasion of Korea and it became a military stalemate. Nobunaga actually cared about ashigaru footwork too (Ashigaru is the term for a peasant in Japanese) which supported Nobunaga's uprising. He also saved a Mozambican man from Portuguese slave trading. I'm talking about the story of Yasuke. He also let his daughter become a samurai, there were already a few female samurai at the time but it's still nice of Oda Nobunaga to do that type of thing. Oda was smart, he sent Christian Envoys to Europe for inspiration on tactics, and invented the Three Line Formation. The Line Formation was already invented in Europe, but not the three-line formation which I think is smart because Japan at the time was slacking behind on tactics and technology meaning clans would shit themselves whenever they'd witness strange tactical advantages or technology used against them. It's kinda like how the Mongolians used bombs against the Samurai, it changed Japan and they made deals with Portuguese traders. Hideyoshi has some pretty inspirational quotes, he may not have been as power-hungry as Nobunaga but he was also not as military active.
10:39 I read that manga! It is very long and Hideyoshi was literally drawn like a monkey. But it was also using this plot that Nobunaga's assassination was influenced by the Jesuit who feared there would be another Genghis Khan that would conquer the world. Still a fascinating story.
Waiwaiwaiwaiwaiwaiwaiwaiwaiwaiwaiwait, what?!?!?! Influenced by his Jesuit buddy who was afraid there would be another Genghis Khan??? Well to be fair, Nobunaga did sign his name as the demon king in his letter to Shingen Edit: problem being the dude was being straight minded
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 If i remember correctly, it was mostly how fast the Japanese produced weapons that scared them as they feared Nobunaga was going to conquer all of Asia like Alexander the great or gengis khan did just this time, woth more death
I thought I was one of the rare one to read Yumemaboroshi from the author who was famous for his Kintaro Salaryman manga. Anyway Hideyoshi might have stolen the Oda clan legacy and snubbed the Oda heirs 1 and 2. Conspiracy or not. But in a karmatic way, Toyotomi clan power was brutally dissolved years later in Sekigahara
Nobunaga's about halfway through conquering Japan when someone who works for him kills him, and then someone else who works for him kills them. And that guy, Toyotomi Hideyoshi, finishes conquering Japan. And then he confiscated everybody's swords, and made some rules, such as: 1 No having a sword (or a gun) 2 No climbing the social ladder 3 Pay taxes
So we are going to a glimpse of the Imjin War? I am so excited for Admiral Yi Sunsin! Plus, Cool History Bros replied to a comment that a series on Admiral Yi Sunsin will come later 😍.
Is it just me but the more I learn about the real life Hideyoshi, the less i find him to be a worthy successor. Why do most other forms of media tend to portrait him as a carefree, man of the people? When he seems more of a egomaniac
The motives behind the honnoji incident was like the Sengoku version of Nobunaga Fritzgerald Kennedy getting rekt by Mitsuhide Harvey Oswald Also the foolish demon king of Owari was as meritorious as Sousou/Cao Cao but then died (more or less) like Doutaku/Dong Zhuo Monke warlord Hideyoshi rose through the ranks like Ryuubi/Liu Bei, as cunning and immoral as Ryuuhou/Liu Bang, but then as hubristic as Liu Bei after losing his 2 bros And then ya boi Ieyasu was as patient as Sonken/Sun Quan but then won the final victory like Shibayen/Si Ma Yan
I know you didn't mention them in this episode, but will you be going through the Shimazu clan? Their rise as Kyushu's most powerful clan was very interesting, they were heavily involved in Korea, and seemed to have a good showing even when on the losing side at Sekigahara. They were also kinda the last hurrah of the Sengoku period, considering they did a lightning campaign that conquered Okinawa (with the Shogun's blessing).
@@hishot1078 You mean the fact that the Shimazu fought in battles in the Korean Peninsula? Shimazu Yoshihiro fought with distinction there, and his 3rd son Tadatsune was also present.
@@nemo0036 I miss read. I thought if Shimazu was involved with Koreans prior to Imjin War. If they were at Kyushu during Nanboku-cho period, nearly 100% guaranteed they were involved in raiding Goryeo.
Another great video and narrative. BTW, Did Kuroda Kanbe played major role in the rise of Hideyoshi? Was it his idea and strategy in truce with Mori and eliminating Mitsuhide? What about the Siege Of Takamatsu?
Except when the Mongols conquered China, it was divided between bitter enemies (Jin, Song and Xixia) and they could exploit divide and conquer tactics. When the Japanese invaded Korea, both Korea and China stood united against them.
I think the idea behind the invasion was to get rid of all the warriors and soldiers that still were around. Either by having them occupy another country or die trying to occupy it. One of the reaons tokugawa managed to end up victorious in the end was that he didnt had to send his troops to korea.
The “Mongol” army consisted of the people that submitted to them. Including Khitans, Arabs, Turks, Jurchen, Northern Han, eventually even Southern Han served their armies. People tend to forget that in the Mongol invasion of Song and the later Manchu invasion of Ming, the Chinese defector armies played huge roles in these conquests. These were as much civil wars as they were foreign invasions
There's also a manga that says Nobunaga survived and went to Europe and... on second thought, let's just forget that one. It's one of those, "what the heck am I reading" things...
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 Yep. All he did was just conquer all of Europe, cross over to North America, and then conquered the entire American continent with American natives. Nothing extraordinary at all.
Hey, I hope I'm not that 500th dude to say this, but have you ever done a collaboration with The Shogunate? Damn, I *am that 500th dude to say that, aren't I? Nevertheless, great work. I wouldn't have known about my Vietnamese roots in the kingdom of NanYue without it. =)
Hideyoshi was not 'spooked' by losing his reinforcement. Hideyoshi was treated overly well by Nobunaga and constantly given big tasks. This made him unpopular to other vassals. So Hideyoshi requested reinforcements from Nobunaga so he could give him the credit for beating the Mori. He'd more or less already beat them. This also explains how he got a truce so easily. He'd more or less won, he was just seiging which takes a while. The Mori were totally happy with Hideyoshi just leaving rather than being defeated. This is partially why some believe he was working with Akechi. Akechi *did* hate Hideyoshi, because he was particularly snubbed by Nobunaga's favouritism, which is why the theory isn't do popular. Hideyoshi being a jackass is totally historically accurate tho.
Did they??? Huh... I recall there were some Kirishitan samurais who fukked off away from Hideyoshi's persecution and seeked refuse with the Spaniards, with the promise of something like "bring on the crusade by kami-sama/da Lord's grace. Deus vult!!! Deus vult!!!"
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 Yes we can include him as well, but still the ultimate winner was Manchus. Japan also suffered huge loss on people and money during the war.
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 Nurhaci even offered assistance during Imjin War, which both Joseon and Ming refused. They knew exactly what would happen if Jurchens gain too much power.
Can you make a Video about Limahong & Koxinga? 🙂 They were two of the many Chinese Pirates/Warlords who attempted to conquer the Philippines during the Spanish Colonial Period. Also, Let me add to this The Lives of the Korean Catholic Saint Kim Dae Gun, and also the Japanese Catholic Samurai Blessed Takayama.
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 Yes, during the Time of Spanish Colonization in the Philippines; But those Chinese Pirates/Warlords were defeated by a Combination of Spanish, Native Filipino, and even Christianised Japanese Forces 🙂
@@hishot1078 yeah, and he was hated by Kato Kiyomasa, the fanatical Buddhist. Kato knew what was up with the Christians. Look what they did to the Philippines, Aztecs and Inca.
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 as far as my knowledge goes, it was a tacit consent to kill villagers if the city/castle admin chose to fight till death (to respect the admin's will) in their culture for that period. Correct me if I am wrong.
2:55 I really want to know what source you're using for this part of the narrative because that's not what the "common knowledge" story is like. New theories are being considerred and reviewed today as well, but we'll just focus on the "traditional narrative" first. The most commonly accepted story was that Hideyoshi backed Hidenobu (or, Sanboushi) from the start. A recent theory suggested a narrative that's the reverse, which was that Hideyoshi backed Hidenobu, but supported Nobukatsu to be the "temporary lord" until Hidenobu is of age. The Komaki-Nagakute battle is not Hideyoshi vs Ieyasu. It's Hideyoshi vs Nobukatsu. In fact, as the Oda was at the time still considered the ruling clan, this was viewed by some as "Hideyoshi is raising a coup d'etat against the Oda". Ieyasu was there as Nobukatsu's assist/ally.
Japan had been making moves into Korea as far back as the Tang Dynasty. If it wasn't for their own infighting they would have moved on China a lot sooner.
@@CoolHistoryBros nope, hideyoshi did right he defeated his lord murderer ofc he took the glory then since he was an ambition man himself. Odas decendants were full of trash. Hideyoshi was also one of oda good generals so its just fine.
@@Ehrle6969 Exactly. Hideyoshi stole nothing considering the Odas post Nobunaga. Besides, he got attacked not the other way around. You could say the Oda's betrayed him and conspired against him. Nobunaga's descendants were nothing like Nobunaga. Nobukatsu was a complete useless failure. Nobutaka was too weak. If either one of these fools became the shogun of unified Japan, they would end up getting swallowed by Tokugawa anyways. So next video gonna be "How Tokugawa Ieyasu stole Nobunaga's and Hideyoshi's Legacy"? This is full of crap.
@@CoolHistoryBros Hideyoshi didn't steal Nobunaga's legacy. He honored it. That's why Nobunaga is still respected. His children, Nobukatsu and Nobutaka, not so much.
@@mintyfresh4855 indeed, but i like the animated Videos from dis nigga, its funny to watch. Y odas sons and brothers were weak asf and couldnt be part of odas legacy. Im sure if any of his sons took over they would get low difed very Quickly. By leyasu for sure he just waited for his time and took it. He had luck dat few of mitsunaris army betrayed him and went over to leyasu otherwise leyasu would lost the battle.
Wow, I know Hideyoshi is a lecherous creep but thats whole another level. Eh, he was my least favorite daimyo from Sengoku era Tokugawa did right thing for overthrowing them.
Tokugawa didn’t “overthrow” Hideyoshi. He overthrown a political system which 1. he was a part of 2.didn’t necessarily support the same ideologies as Hideyoshi.
@@fyncheniteO I know he didn't overthrow Hideyoshi, I try to imply Toyotomi linage for saying "them". After all they were like Nobunaga's linage, incompetent pupets. Yep, Tokugawa followed his system but he was a fair guy compared to Hideyoshi. The thing I dislike is romantization of Toyotomi regime.
@@nemesis3587 the political system that Hideyoshi **directly** left behind was a council which included Ieyasu himself, and the council worked fairly well before Ieyasu initiated his schemes. Are you implying that Ieyasu himself was incompetent? Then what gave him right to overthrow the council? The only incentive he had was to become a dictator so that he wouldn’t have to reach an agreement with other council members. If you meant Hideyori, no, Hideyori appeared “incompetent” because he didn’t receive proper education since he was 7, mostly because of Ieyasu’s power grab. It’s not predetermined that he’d be “incompetent” if Ieyasu had properly fulfilled his legitimate role as a regent. It’s like telling a child “no wonder your parents hate you, you’re terrible” when the only reason the child had been “terrible” was because of terrible parenting.
@@fyncheniteO No, not Ieyasu, Hideyori. It is not predetermined but it is kinda obvivious. In the end he was a child if West side won the battle he was probably gonna became Mitsunari's puppet or Mori clan's. Like Ashigaka shoguns he would be a name only shogun. The system Ieyasu followed is Hideyoshi's politics, like no class change and another rules. Other than, Hideyoshi's regent system was a terrible idea from the start. He should have know better because of how he userped power from Oda clan himself. Expecting powerful figure like Ieyasu wait for his kid coming to age is naive idea. Other regents blamed Ieyasu but they were no better than him. Hideyoshi ust doomed his clan after he forced his former heir Hidetsugu commit suicide.
@@nemesis3587 still a shitty excuse which follows shoddy logic that “Ieyasu usurped Toyotomi because Hideyori *was going to be incompetent*” because the latter never happened and was but a self-fulfilling prophecy to terminate other possibilities. You’re saying as if “Hideyori becoming a puppet” was certain, but truth is *it never happened*. And knowing the competence of Terumoto and morals (and connections) of Mitsunari, it likely wouldn’t happen. Hideyoshi had nothing to learn from Oda because both the overlord and the heir had died and Nobunaga left no will, so that whatever the other successors or subordinates did, they didn’t conduct a breach of *anything* but some obscure “moral” obligations. Hideyoshi’s original regent system was worse, as he was stupid enough to designate Ieyasu as one of the two regents alongside with Maeda. Because Hideyoshi was a bad judge of character like that. The *current* regent system was vastly improved from basically handing Hideyori’s life to Ieyasu. The problem of Ieyasu was pretty much that he probably never did remotely “decent” things and he was overly zealot in his unflattering deeds. Even throughout the aftermaths of Nobunaga’s death he was the most savage: when others were debating and manoeuvring in a conference for the legitimacy of succession of the Oda clan, Ieyasu, as a “long-standing” and “loyal” ally of Oda, was scheming to blatantly seize land from Oda vassals and had (indirectly) driven one of them to death. And after Hideyoshi’s death he was the first to completely disregard an established will agreed by every regent. The time had been evolving and Ieyasu’s contemporaries had been adopting more civil, modernized methods and mindset by negotiating to settle a dispute, or abiding to “contracts” they had agreed on, and Ieyasu consistently had been stuck with old school thinkings of “schemes and military conquest above everything”. That outdated, uncivil mindset automatically makes Ieyasu an ineligible ruler of Japan. No wonder Edo period had delayed Japan’s modern reformations for forever, until the situation was truly desperate. I honestly don’t think any “modern” person should defend Ieyasu because his success was solely based on violations of what modernized, “enlightened” values stood for. But that’s just my opinion.
There is actually a treasure trove of "what if" alternate history in Japan. According to their local legend, the Tang Dynasty beauty Yang Gui Fei faked her execution and went to Japan.
People can come up with the strangest stuff.
i think u forget to put kuroda kanbei's influence to people, even hideyoshi felt threaten by it
Gogen Yamaguchi (山口剛玄) once wrote:
"It's easy to listen to what you are taught. But it's difficult to find what you have within yourself and master it as yor own"
as one article I have read. to compare the unifiers, it to look at their response to a songbird that refuses to sing.
Nobunaga: if the bird won't sing, kill it. (unity through force)
Hideyoshi: if the bird won't sing, coerce it to sing (unity through diplomacy)
Ieyasu: if the bird won't sing, wait for it to sing. (unity through perseverance)
Hideyoshi is definitely my favorite of the unifiers, coming from the much harder social status while having a great balance of traits compared to the ruthlessness of Nobunaga and the cautiousness of Ieyasu 🤔
Mans legit lived the mafia life. He went from unknown peasant to one of the known unifiers of Japan
Agreed; best of the 3
He was an a**hole that's why so many people betrayed him after his death. Tokugawa is the best.
Eh, I like Nobunaga. Nobunaga just seriously comes off like a dude who did what ever was nessessary to win. Hideyoshi was an actual fucking asshole.
He also passed down a law that prevented people ascending their status just as he did. So idk…
my gut tells me, hideyoshi is actually the one who plot mitsuhide's coup
somehow
he's sus, his history also sus
Unless Mitsuhide is a complete fool he would have revealed Hideyoshi's part in the conspiracy before they fought, plus he and Hideyoshi hated one another by all accounts. Also it was a near run thing where any one of Nobunaga's other vassals could have beaten Hideyoshi to killing Mitsuhide and claimed vengeance for Nobunaga, thus putting them in position to lead the Oda clan afterwards.
Same here
Sus af, when you rose to power from having nothing at all that person will become addicted and greedy to power, which he probably used some kind of proxy to make the coup, and already planning so much in advance so his journey back will be swift.
@@krimzonstriker7534 Eh, not really. Hideyoshi was the only one with a large army and he is the one who brought Nobunaga closer, and for no tactical reason.
The "Akechi fucking hated Hideyoshi" thing tho is true. Its unlikely Hideyoshi just silver tongued him.
its true, there is a new manga "the man who killed nobunaga" that shows how hideyoshi was behind everything that is based on new discovered history
“Hideyoshi! Ieyasu! You idiots are gonna be getting an asskicking from me because you ruined my family big time and screwed up my ambition! If ever I get the chance to leave Hell and visit Earth, I’ll burn all you and your lackeys down!”
-Oda Nobunaga
Ah... Hideyoshi the man of Irony. The peasant who was able to rise up through the ranks to be at the highest post (he can be) who issued the Separation Edict... The law which prevents other peasants to be able to do the same... Hideyoshi, A hard-working man turned Tyrant... One case of "Absolute power corrupts absolutely".
I mean... It's not that hard to see how it came to this. Hideyoshi's life is basically a story of "bullied nerd turned bullies' boss". As an ambitious man who wants to rise through the rank... Even though his skills and merits are greater than many of his peers, He needs to act humble and meek... Making himself seen as a useful clown in order to avoid all the jealousy and as many problems as he can from other officers since he's just a lowborn peasant in the rank of Samurai. With all those pent-up feelings from the humiliations he has to put up with, It's not that surprising to see him go mad with power when he finally reached the top where everyone has to suck up to him (or face his army).
Whoa. Great analysis.
What a strange guy, I just somewhat can't come to show my compassion towards Hideyoshi. Oda Nobunaga will always be my favourite, I still have yet to play the Oda clan on TW: Shogun 2 lol
@@nightstriker3994 good guy turn bad guy due to power corruption, or simply bad guy backstory depend on when you view it. If you put it that way it will be easier to understand
That's not what he did, you know. The separation edict says that the citizenry had to choose to become a full time samurai or a full time farmer and stick with it. At the time, soldiers were conscripted from the peasantry, so the people farm when there's no battle, but had to suit up for battle when there's war. Because of this, if the army ever lost too many soldiers, then nobody can farm, and it will cause economic problems. With this edict, those who don't want to fight can just farm full time, and those who want to be soldiers don't have to be farmers even when there's no fighting.
@@user-anonymous-01234 Which resulted in peasant forcing to only be farmer or/and solider. If any peasant abandons their fields and engages in commerce or wage labor, not only they themself but their fellow villagers will be punished. Those not involved in either military service or working the fields will be investigated and expelled. Meaning... Lesser chance for low-born person to become able or/and to rise up to a high position.
With rule which mandated that peasant can only stick to two designated things or else be punish, That's narrowed down the ways for ordinary low-class citizen to achieve great enough merit(s) to earn a standing on the ground where they could start claiming ranks. Not to mention that It's not only limiting the probability of taking on the extraordinary path of succession like the one Hideyoshi takes but also discouraging people to do so.
Talents and connections are pursued and cultivated... With lesser to almost no prospect of using them to better one standing, Any ability other than what needed to do their designated job(s) is likely to be disregarded as useless or not worth spending time acquiring for most people at the time which lead to a lower rate of capability from peasant class.
So... Whether Hideyoshi intended for that to happen or not, He did make it harder for other fellow low-born individuals to be able to do what he did.
Yukimura and Masamune pop up in the same time.
And they be like "LET'S PARTY!!!" "MY SOUL BURNS WITH FIRE, MY LOOOOORRRRDDD!!!"
The way I've heard it, Hideyoshi ordered the death of Rikyu because he was paranoid about being usurped and had heard rumours that the teamaster was connected to a plot to have him assassinated.
There are just too many mysteries in the sengoku era. We can't know for sure what happened. Some scholars even claimed that it was unlikely that Rikyu was part of an assassination plot because he would be executed instead of given the chance to preserve his honour with seppuku.
Hideyoshi was certainly consumed by hubris, but the Ming at the time was experiencing some serious rot. The Wokou years showed how bad it was till the reforms by Qi Jiquang helped stem the tide. If the invasion happened some four decades later, their main rival would be the Qing
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Good thing you guys corrected Yasuke's hands.
One other factor that made the whole successor issue of whose amongst ol Nobby's remaining sons should take over the clan,even more muddy and complex,is that it is unclear whether who's older between Nobutaka and Nobukatsu is. because they have different mothers.
Nobutaka's mum is a peasant woman named Sakichi, whilst Nobukatsu's mum is lady Kitsune,a daughter of the wealthy Ikoma clan. Who,in turn kinda block off Hideyoshi's initial support for his choice of Nobukatsu,since y'know,if you are the Ikoma,why would you gave Nobukatsu up into Hideyoshi's sway? so Hideyoshi took Hidenobu instead. And in retaliation, Nobukatsu asked for Tokugawa's support. Which in turn,might looked very unfavorable for the rest of the inner retainer clans of the Oda,I mean,the inner retainer clans would think: why would you ask for help from outsider clans when we are still here? You don't trust us? It might pushed them to the other camps. leaving Nobukatsu's block of supporters really bare and scattered all over.
The odds is firmly stacked against poor ol'Nobutaka here,granted he showed some political savy by getting Shibata's support using her aunt and by knowing Shibata at that point don't have an heir yet (Shibata's heir died young).
And if I might add,as mentioned,Rikyu Sen's execution is also motivated by how influential he is among the merchants of Sakai,a very lucrative port town near Osaka where Hideyoshi is building his powerbase. With Rikyu gone,all that wealth is easier for Hideyoshi to take and utilize.
Shocking. I've heard so many great things about Oda Nobunaga, how his clan in one of the castles was severely outnumbered by the enemy. There were 300 soldiers, whereas the enemy had around 1000 and the Oda side still won because the enemy got overconfident and drank the night before the castle siege. The 300 soldiers ambushed them at the location the opposing side was located and killed the generals, which meant the opposing side had nobody to command them so they did not resist after the Oda soldiers assassinated the generals.
I've also heard that Hideyoshi was also pretty meh, since he failed during the Japanese invasion of Korea and it became a military stalemate. Nobunaga actually cared about ashigaru footwork too (Ashigaru is the term for a peasant in Japanese) which supported Nobunaga's uprising. He also saved a Mozambican man from Portuguese slave trading. I'm talking about the story of Yasuke. He also let his daughter become a samurai, there were already a few female samurai at the time but it's still nice of Oda Nobunaga to do that type of thing.
Oda was smart, he sent Christian Envoys to Europe for inspiration on tactics, and invented the Three Line Formation. The Line Formation was already invented in Europe, but not the three-line formation which I think is smart because Japan at the time was slacking behind on tactics and technology meaning clans would shit themselves whenever they'd witness strange tactical advantages or technology used against them. It's kinda like how the Mongolians used bombs against the Samurai, it changed Japan and they made deals with Portuguese traders.
Hideyoshi has some pretty inspirational quotes, he may not have been as power-hungry as Nobunaga but he was also not as military active.
>betray your lord
>get killed by a brigand
Le poetic justice.
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I read that manga! It is very long and Hideyoshi was literally drawn like a monkey. But it was also using this plot that Nobunaga's assassination was influenced by the Jesuit who feared there would be another Genghis Khan that would conquer the world. Still a fascinating story.
Waiwaiwaiwaiwaiwaiwaiwaiwaiwaiwaiwait, what?!?!?! Influenced by his Jesuit buddy who was afraid there would be another Genghis Khan???
Well to be fair, Nobunaga did sign his name as the demon king in his letter to Shingen
Edit: problem being the dude was being straight minded
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 If i remember correctly, it was mostly how fast the Japanese produced weapons that scared them as they feared Nobunaga was going to conquer all of Asia like Alexander the great or gengis khan did just this time, woth more death
@@bradypus55 so for their whole history, they grew quick like TWICE??? (Sengoku and Meiji periods)
I think everyone in Asia whomever had chance to meet Hideyoshi described him as monkey.
@@hishot1078 and how was he a monke???
I thought I was one of the rare one to read Yumemaboroshi from the author who was famous for his Kintaro Salaryman manga.
Anyway Hideyoshi might have stolen the Oda clan legacy and snubbed the Oda heirs 1 and 2. Conspiracy or not. But in a karmatic way, Toyotomi clan power was brutally dissolved years later in Sekigahara
This channel is seriously underrated
A mobile golden tea house? That sounds awesome
Meanwhile Rikyu preferred simplicity and minimalism. No wonder these two ended up falling out.
Can't wait for your Imjin war, admiral Yi is on the line.
Good video, I played tons of nobanga ambition games, but you told the story far better than any game. I finally understand.
I can’t wait to hear about the rise of Tokugawa ^^
Nah not my favorite
@@rogerw830 At least people lived in peace in Tokugawa, Sengoku legit turned Kyoto into an Asian Afghanistan.
Nobunaga's about halfway through conquering Japan when someone who works for him kills him, and then someone else who works for him kills them. And that guy, Toyotomi Hideyoshi, finishes conquering Japan. And then he confiscated everybody's swords, and made some rules, such as:
1 No having a sword (or a gun)
2 No climbing the social ladder
3 Pay taxes
So we are going to a glimpse of the Imjin War? I am so excited for Admiral Yi Sunsin! Plus, Cool History Bros replied to a comment that a series on Admiral Yi Sunsin will come later 😍.
I'll be interested in hearing what you'll cover on the Imjin War.
Are you planning to do a series about the Sanada as well?
Yeah. Should be interesting.
Is it just me but the more I learn about the real life Hideyoshi, the less i find him to be a worthy successor. Why do most other forms of media tend to portrait him as a carefree, man of the people? When he seems more of a egomaniac
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Ah yes.... Hideyoshi's most controversial but important decision at that time
-Vision Hunt Decree-
Sword Hunt Decree
also melt it into archon statue
Whatever hideyoshi was thinking was achieved at the end of the next dynasty. Atleast for a little while.
You mean the conquest of China?
@@life_is_a_myth well, only like 1/3 of it, more or less
The motives behind the honnoji incident was like the Sengoku version of Nobunaga Fritzgerald Kennedy getting rekt by Mitsuhide Harvey Oswald
Also the foolish demon king of Owari was as meritorious as Sousou/Cao Cao but then died (more or less) like Doutaku/Dong Zhuo
Monke warlord Hideyoshi rose through the ranks like Ryuubi/Liu Bei, as cunning and immoral as Ryuuhou/Liu Bang, but then as hubristic as Liu Bei after losing his 2 bros
And then ya boi Ieyasu was as patient as Sonken/Sun Quan but then won the final victory like Shibayen/Si Ma Yan
I know you didn't mention them in this episode, but will you be going through the Shimazu clan? Their rise as Kyushu's most powerful clan was very interesting, they were heavily involved in Korea, and seemed to have a good showing even when on the losing side at Sekigahara.
They were also kinda the last hurrah of the Sengoku period, considering they did a lightning campaign that conquered Okinawa (with the Shogun's blessing).
I don't think Shimazu clan has anything to do with Korea. Teach me if I'm wrong. On the other hand, Shoni clan's founding was due to Silla pirates.
@@hishot1078 You mean the fact that the Shimazu fought in battles in the Korean Peninsula? Shimazu Yoshihiro fought with distinction there, and his 3rd son Tadatsune was also present.
@@nemo0036 I miss read. I thought if Shimazu was involved with Koreans prior to Imjin War. If they were at Kyushu during Nanboku-cho period, nearly 100% guaranteed they were involved in raiding Goryeo.
@@hishot1078 Okay. Not sure about that, but the did do a lightning campaign in Okinawa some time after Sekigahara with 3000 Samurai and Men-at-arms.
He should have focused on and crushed Tokugawa clan completely instead of turning his eyes west towards…Ming China?! That was sheer craziness.
Sanadaaaa~❤❤❤
Another great video and narrative. BTW, Did Kuroda Kanbe played major role in the rise of Hideyoshi? Was it his idea and strategy in truce with Mori and eliminating Mitsuhide? What about the Siege Of Takamatsu?
Mongols conquered Jin and Song despite having only a fraction of the population, so It isn't too far fetched for a Japanese invasion of the Ming.
Except when the Mongols conquered China, it was divided between bitter enemies (Jin, Song and Xixia) and they could exploit divide and conquer tactics. When the Japanese invaded Korea, both Korea and China stood united against them.
I think the idea behind the invasion was to get rid of all the warriors and soldiers that still were around. Either by having them occupy another country or die trying to occupy it. One of the reaons tokugawa managed to end up victorious in the end was that he didnt had to send his troops to korea.
The “Mongol” army consisted of the people that submitted to them. Including Khitans, Arabs, Turks, Jurchen, Northern Han, eventually even Southern Han served their armies. People tend to forget that in the Mongol invasion of Song and the later Manchu invasion of Ming, the Chinese defector armies played huge roles in these conquests. These were as much civil wars as they were foreign invasions
@@rayray6490 And? The same could have happened during the Japanese invasion.
Goryeo had 9 wars with Mongol between 1231 to 1259........
Fun fact the castle name is obama castle 4:56 the city name is obama google if want know more
WTF
Love it!! Can’t wait for more!
I am impressed with your erudition!
Isn't it 3 days because that's how long he was coronated as shogun?
There's also a manga that says Nobunaga survived and went to Europe and... on second thought, let's just forget that one. It's one of those, "what the heck am I reading" things...
Became who???
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 Oh he didn't become anything in that story. He just conquered the world. ...
@@kweassa6204 errrrrr he retained his identity as Oda Nobunaga, Demon King of the 6th Heaven, Conquerer of All Under Heaven???
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 Yep. All he did was just conquer all of Europe, cross over to North America, and then conquered the entire American continent with American natives. Nothing extraordinary at all.
Hey, I hope I'm not that 500th dude to say this, but have you ever done a collaboration with The Shogunate?
Damn, I *am that 500th dude to say that, aren't I?
Nevertheless, great work. I wouldn't have known about my Vietnamese roots in the kingdom of NanYue without it. =)
The movie 🍿 goemon claims he conspired w Akechi to kill nobunaga but then framed akechi for sole responsibility
Your the best bro
Hideyoshi was not 'spooked' by losing his reinforcement. Hideyoshi was treated overly well by Nobunaga and constantly given big tasks. This made him unpopular to other vassals. So Hideyoshi requested reinforcements from Nobunaga so he could give him the credit for beating the Mori. He'd more or less already beat them.
This also explains how he got a truce so easily. He'd more or less won, he was just seiging which takes a while. The Mori were totally happy with Hideyoshi just leaving rather than being defeated.
This is partially why some believe he was working with Akechi. Akechi *did* hate Hideyoshi, because he was particularly snubbed by Nobunaga's favouritism, which is why the theory isn't do popular.
Hideyoshi being a jackass is totally historically accurate tho.
When can we expect a video or a series of videos on yi sun shin ?
His series will come later.
@@CoolHistoryBros Yay!
You and your profile pic, you know what you're petitioning for. Ho boi...
as i recall they plan to invade the Spanish colony Philippines but he died it was scratch out plan bec of hideyoshi death
Did they??? Huh... I recall there were some Kirishitan samurais who fukked off away from Hideyoshi's persecution and seeked refuse with the Spaniards, with the promise of something like "bring on the crusade by kami-sama/da Lord's grace. Deus vult!!! Deus vult!!!"
And why would Hideyoshi want the Philippines during that time? What would be the motive?
I bet everyone wanna see oichi irl
Hideyoshi is pretty lucky, cause he piss off the Great Ming, mess up and get away by kick the bucket; 大明威武！
Nobody involved in the war won. Only winner was Nurhaci.
@@hishot1078 what about Ieyasu tho???
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 Yes we can include him as well, but still the ultimate winner was Manchus. Japan also suffered huge loss on people and money during the war.
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 Nurhaci even offered assistance during Imjin War, which both Joseon and Ming refused. They knew exactly what would happen if Jurchens gain too much power.
Can you make a Video about Limahong & Koxinga? 🙂 They were two of the many Chinese Pirates/Warlords who attempted to conquer the Philippines during the Spanish Colonial Period.
Also, Let me add to this The Lives of the Korean Catholic Saint Kim Dae Gun, and also the Japanese Catholic Samurai Blessed Takayama.
Wait what??? Chinese pirates trying to taking over Philippines???
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 Yes, during the Time of Spanish Colonization in the Philippines; But those Chinese Pirates/Warlords were defeated by a Combination of Spanish, Native Filipino, and even Christianised Japanese Forces 🙂
@@andyletterman2893 well shit... I never knew the wokou (JP wakou, KO waegu) could extend this far
Stellar mate
Washija
6:27 WHAT?!?!?!
Im laugh at that conquering china part, what a lunatic...
I thought Hokkaido is not part of hydeyoshi at the time
I think Hokkaido is not part of Japan at all at that time.
you left out the part where Hideyoshi banned the tradition of burying 100 people alive before the creation of structures.
Why is there no anime about this ?
Sengoku Basara: Samurai Kings
Toyotomi Hideyoshi saved Japan 🇯🇵 from Christianity. He’s a civilizational hero.
That and William Adams (Miura Anjin) under Tokugawa Ieyasu
What, army lead by Gonishi "Augustinus" Yukinaga during Imjin War was full of Christians o.0
@@hishot1078 and they gave little to no fuk about christian or Buddhist virtues
@@hishot1078 yeah, and he was hated by Kato Kiyomasa, the fanatical Buddhist. Kato knew what was up with the Christians. Look what they did to the Philippines, Aztecs and Inca.
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 as far as my knowledge goes, it was a tacit consent to kill villagers if the city/castle admin chose to fight till death (to respect the admin's will) in their culture for that period. Correct me if I am wrong.
Sub indonesia, please
I think the narrator is indonesian
2:55 I really want to know what source you're using for this part of the narrative because that's not what the "common knowledge" story is like. New theories are being considerred and reviewed today as well, but we'll just focus on the "traditional narrative" first. The most commonly accepted story was that Hideyoshi backed Hidenobu (or, Sanboushi) from the start. A recent theory suggested a narrative that's the reverse, which was that Hideyoshi backed Hidenobu, but supported Nobukatsu to be the "temporary lord" until Hidenobu is of age.
The Komaki-Nagakute battle is not Hideyoshi vs Ieyasu. It's Hideyoshi vs Nobukatsu. In fact, as the Oda was at the time still considered the ruling clan, this was viewed by some as "Hideyoshi is raising a coup d'etat against the Oda". Ieyasu was there as Nobukatsu's assist/ally.
Technically Ieyasu was there to back up Nobukatsu but it should be obvious who actually had command experience.
Me who recognizes these warlords from ikemen sengoku : (‘д‘ )
So gulu gulu (who cares his name) ran to Asian continent and conquered China. Sure sure sure ...🤪
So Japan wanted to conquer China even before Meiji... Lmao
Japan had been making moves into Korea as far back as the Tang Dynasty. If it wasn't for their own infighting they would have moved on China a lot sooner.
Lol its doable before the rise of nationalism. When nationalism is a thing then forget it.
the eternal Japanese wet pipe dream
@@426mak baekje restoration war right???
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 I think so. It was during the reign of Gaozong.
Minamoto as Genghis Khan is just.. weebo crap. I mean, Jesus survived his execution and became Minamoto.
He stole nothing he just took revenge of his lord and continued his legacy same as leyasu then did
Legitimately, Nobunaga's legacy was supposed to belong to Nobunaga's descendants.
@@CoolHistoryBros nope, hideyoshi did right he defeated his lord murderer ofc he took the glory then since he was an ambition man himself. Odas decendants were full of trash. Hideyoshi was also one of oda good generals so its just fine.
@@Ehrle6969 Exactly. Hideyoshi stole nothing considering the Odas post Nobunaga. Besides, he got attacked not the other way around. You could say the Oda's betrayed him and conspired against him. Nobunaga's descendants were nothing like Nobunaga. Nobukatsu was a complete useless failure. Nobutaka was too weak. If either one of these fools became the shogun of unified Japan, they would end up getting swallowed by Tokugawa anyways.
So next video gonna be "How Tokugawa Ieyasu stole Nobunaga's and Hideyoshi's Legacy"? This is full of crap.
@@CoolHistoryBros Hideyoshi didn't steal Nobunaga's legacy. He honored it. That's why Nobunaga is still respected. His children, Nobukatsu and Nobutaka, not so much.
@@mintyfresh4855 indeed, but i like the animated Videos from dis nigga, its funny to watch. Y odas sons and brothers were weak asf and couldnt be part of odas legacy. Im sure if any of his sons took over they would get low difed very Quickly. By leyasu for sure he just waited for his time and took it. He had luck dat few of mitsunaris army betrayed him and went over to leyasu otherwise leyasu would lost the battle.
Wow, I know Hideyoshi is a lecherous creep but thats whole another level. Eh, he was my least favorite daimyo from Sengoku era Tokugawa did right thing for overthrowing them.
Tokugawa didn’t “overthrow” Hideyoshi. He overthrown a political system which 1. he was a part of 2.didn’t necessarily support the same ideologies as Hideyoshi.
@@fyncheniteO I know he didn't overthrow Hideyoshi, I try to imply Toyotomi linage for saying "them". After all they were like Nobunaga's linage, incompetent pupets. Yep, Tokugawa followed his system but he was a fair guy compared to Hideyoshi. The thing I dislike is romantization of Toyotomi regime.
@@nemesis3587 the political system that Hideyoshi **directly** left behind was a council which included Ieyasu himself, and the council worked fairly well before Ieyasu initiated his schemes. Are you implying that Ieyasu himself was incompetent? Then what gave him right to overthrow the council? The only incentive he had was to become a dictator so that he wouldn’t have to reach an agreement with other council members. If you meant Hideyori, no, Hideyori appeared “incompetent” because he didn’t receive proper education since he was 7, mostly because of Ieyasu’s power grab. It’s not predetermined that he’d be “incompetent” if Ieyasu had properly fulfilled his legitimate role as a regent. It’s like telling a child “no wonder your parents hate you, you’re terrible” when the only reason the child had been “terrible” was because of terrible parenting.
@@fyncheniteO No, not Ieyasu, Hideyori. It is not predetermined but it is kinda obvivious. In the end he was a child if West side won the battle he was probably gonna became Mitsunari's puppet or Mori clan's. Like Ashigaka shoguns he would be a name only shogun.
The system Ieyasu followed is Hideyoshi's politics, like no class change and another rules. Other than, Hideyoshi's regent system was a terrible idea from the start. He should have know better because of how he userped power from Oda clan himself. Expecting powerful figure like Ieyasu wait for his kid coming to age is naive idea. Other regents blamed Ieyasu but they were no better than him. Hideyoshi ust doomed his clan after he forced his former heir Hidetsugu commit suicide.
@@nemesis3587 still a shitty excuse which follows shoddy logic that “Ieyasu usurped Toyotomi because Hideyori *was going to be incompetent*” because the latter never happened and was but a self-fulfilling prophecy to terminate other possibilities. You’re saying as if “Hideyori becoming a puppet” was certain, but truth is *it never happened*. And knowing the competence of Terumoto and morals (and connections) of Mitsunari, it likely wouldn’t happen.
Hideyoshi had nothing to learn from Oda because both the overlord and the heir had died and Nobunaga left no will, so that whatever the other successors or subordinates did, they didn’t conduct a breach of *anything* but some obscure “moral” obligations. Hideyoshi’s original regent system was worse, as he was stupid enough to designate Ieyasu as one of the two regents alongside with Maeda. Because Hideyoshi was a bad judge of character like that. The *current* regent system was vastly improved from basically handing Hideyori’s life to Ieyasu.
The problem of Ieyasu was pretty much that he probably never did remotely “decent” things and he was overly zealot in his unflattering deeds. Even throughout the aftermaths of Nobunaga’s death he was the most savage: when others were debating and manoeuvring in a conference for the legitimacy of succession of the Oda clan, Ieyasu, as a “long-standing” and “loyal” ally of Oda, was scheming to blatantly seize land from Oda vassals and had (indirectly) driven one of them to death. And after Hideyoshi’s death he was the first to completely disregard an established will agreed by every regent. The time had been evolving and Ieyasu’s contemporaries had been adopting more civil, modernized methods and mindset by negotiating to settle a dispute, or abiding to “contracts” they had agreed on, and Ieyasu consistently had been stuck with old school thinkings of “schemes and military conquest above everything”. That outdated, uncivil mindset automatically makes Ieyasu an ineligible ruler of Japan. No wonder Edo period had delayed Japan’s modern reformations for forever, until the situation was truly desperate.
I honestly don’t think any “modern” person should defend Ieyasu because his success was solely based on violations of what modernized, “enlightened” values stood for. But that’s just my opinion.