Muslim's in France fear for their future amid far-right gains | Focus on Europe
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
- France is in the grip of political uncertainty after snap elections upset the balance of power in the country’s parliament. The hard-right National Rally party of Marine Le Pen scored highest in the first round, prompting other parties to strategically drop out of electoral races to build a barrage against the extreme right. But Le Pen’s party still ramped up its seat share, and she says its victory has only been postponed. The historic gains spread the party’s reach far out into central France, including in the eastern city of Chalon-sur-Saone, where Morgane Guechi has started a club for Muslim women who feel worried about the rise of the far right in their region.
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Y'all come to france refusing to assimilate the culture and adapt, then ask the french to respect YOUR culture. Disrespect.
They learnt the language. Pay taxes. What else do you want?
For all of these flags (except the Palestinian one), France came to them. Tunisia and Algerie was considered to be France by the French. There are French-algerians who have been living in France for 175 years by now, including the first lady in the clip.
@@a.bastianwiik5592 and arabs and turks occupied Byzantine empire, Iberian peninsula, Balkans, Greece, Caucasus, went even to Vienna. Islam spread not through love, it was spread through colonialism. Past is past. French people shouldn't pay for their ancestors sins. France should be kept french and secular.
Yet the french went to their country and changed it all… the hypocrisy lol
@@luciferjohnson8495 Ex-pat also does but they are not national. Adopt the culture and way of life. At least try to. Don't try to conserve your own culture. Culture is something you can change. So it's a choice.
How many FLAGS does France have???
In few generations will become green with the moon, by majority will.
Only moon kind of flags😅
Isla mist will never integrate and be just French. Their loyalty will always be to their ummah and the caliphate. I think DW's own thumbnail proves it
One Flag 🇫🇷
Vive la France
One national flag and several regional flags. None of which are represented here. These flags are foreign flags unrelated to our country and its culture.
And french fear being turned into another lebanon
Algeria🇩🇿?
You are not French.
Je le suis plus que toi 😂 et tu vas rien faire viens m’arracher mon passeport si tu peux
@@chamaru638
tu ne sera jamais français tu es perdu et sans repère je peux comprendre
@@smal750 viens déchirer mon passeport je suis en master donc la personne perdu c’est toi🫵🏼
@@chamaru638
mec arrete tu te fais du mal à rejeter tes origines ca sert à rien je suis algérien mais j'ai les papiers français ca fais pas de moi un français même pas à 0.1% ne renie pas tes origines c'est pas bien
@@smal750 toi algérien 😂
As a immigrant, I must say that if they're so proud about their countries, why don't they just get out of France?
They won't get the paycheck
Are they required to hate their native countries?
@@soundscape26 If they want to be perceived as French, they have to identify as French before any other nationality; otherwise, they can stay, but they should be regarded as "foreign residents"
@@phoque121 Yes but how do you gauge that "identify as French", you have them read something? You do have rules for both becoming a French citizen and a permanent resident, it's a matter of them fulfilling the requirements or not.
If they don’t behave like a Frenchmen is pretty hard to be accepted simple as that, I think they should have that choice but need to deal with the consequences of it, they shouldn’t be treated badly because of it but just accept, if they put their country of origin,they parents country above the country they live in or were they are born in they shouldn’t be discriminated against but still need to adhere to local law and culture.
I’m Portuguese and we have a lot of us in France, i bet a lot of them don’t identify as French but others do and they should have that choice but they can’t complain about it in my opinion, if you don’t act like most locals you will be always an outsider imo but if they respect local culture,language ect I think most will respect them.
Antoine Griezmann grandparent was Portuguese but he has a French name and plays for the French national team he isn’t considered Portuguese , pepe was born in Brazil and come here at 17 years old? but plays in our national team and we treated him like a Portuguese because he adapted to our culture.
idk how to explain it better
You can't serve two countries.
There are millions of dual nationals in the world.
@@soundscape26 People who think about themselves, not the country. Like religion, you have to choose your loyalty to one country, Is like you can't get two heavens from different religions.
Yeah, most people think first about themselves and what's best for them.
At least not two countries with such diverging interests
Those flags are definitely not French.
Get your eyes checked
@@luciferjohnson8495 are they French?
@@bogdar2019 if they are speaking French and they have French citizenship. Then yes
@@luciferjohnson8495 yeah but I was talking about the flags. Are those flags French?
@@bogdar2019 I see 7 flags, and the palestinian one is THE ONLY ONE that is related to a country outside the "French sphere". Algeria for example was not considered to be a French colony, but rather a integral and equal part of metroplolitan France. There are lots of ethnic Algerians whos families have been French citizens for over 100 years by now.
Its not Pakistan its France. Go to your home
why you go to UAE or Saudi Arabia .
Nonsense, many have been born in France and consider themselves as French.
pojeet detected opinion rejected
There are no Pakistanis in France lol😂
@@muhammedjaseemshajeef6781
There are some there. And you know it.
Do they ever wonder why so many people despise them
They're too egotistical waving their own flags than thinking about others perspectives
So called peaceful community
They seem pretty peaceful to me
Why should we respect people who follow a religion, who doesn't respect basic human rights?
@@soundscape26ya..they are very peaceful...very very peaceful...just too peaceful....tooo pissful..sorry peaceful...
@@watermelonman3651 The people in the video look as peaceful as you can be.
@@soundscape26 okay
A bunch of weird flags, but not many French let alone European.
Why do so many who hate France live there?
You can always return to where you came where you are free to practice your religion.
En France nous pouvons 😊
Those are no French flags
You mean toilet paper?
Wow... keen eye you have.
Palestine and Algeria are definately not French
This question is easy to answer. France decides who is French!
They should just leave then.
To Algeria and morroco?
That's was I thought
@@ShadowStrike88 why tho
Viens me faire partir
Three generations living in a country and they still do not intregrate. In this case actions speak louder than time.
@@mac7040 How did they not integrate, uh? Don't they speak French, work/study and pay their taxes?
Why should we respect people who follow a religion, who doesn't respect basic human rights?
@@ceooflonelinessinc.267 Only in the eyes of the radicals.
@@soundscape26how many of the native french force their women to cover up and force them to marry men in arranged marriages?
Islam out of Europe
Why u won't accept Islam in Europe ,what's the issue
@@lifeisbeautiful9945 religion is opium for masses :) No religion should be accepted in public space and discourse.
It's Evil.
@@lifeisbeautiful9945Why you won't accept Christianity in middle east
@@captainamerica3134 we accept that bro,
France Cristian should fear now from these Islamists
Its like afganistan not france
People who put other flags before the nations one are not French.
When you're flying the flag of a foreign country, you've announced you aren't French.
exactly.
😂😂😂
I didn't know that france has so many flags now! We in Poland still have just one!
Is that supposed to be special or something?
@@soundscape26Islam is crippling europe. I suggest you search up what happened in sweden recently.
@@cr1ym what happened ?
These flags are as opposed to France as the swastika is.
Hakenkreuz
And as opposed to France as the EU banner is.
LOL - including the French tricolor they displayed? What about the indigenous Gauls and Basques conquered by Franks.
Would you have said that if the flags were British, Argentinian or German, you racist?
But was Vichy France opposed to it?
Why should we respect people who follow a religion, which doesn't respect basic human rights?
Comme ?
Alors pour info , je m’appelle Valérie, je suis française de souche ! Et ma religion est l’Islam . On en parle des terroristes qui massacre les Palestiniens ? Vous êtes d’accord avec ces atrocités ? Vous parler des musulmans alors que vous ne connaissez pas cette religion.
Et en France il n’y a pas de culture (française)
Et je suis chez moi ! Et pas fier de mon pays ! Alors ceux qui ne sont pas content, gardez vos commentaires bidons!
The native french will decide on this naturally.
So biased. Show crime stats, and who is on welfare.
You can't surely blame those in the video for that.
@@soundscape26you can blame them on a macroscopic scale, not on the individual.
its for french 's decision to decide whats better for their country
They are not french lmfao
So what are they?
They're mostly 3rd , 4th or ever 5 generation immigrant thanks to the french colonization , they're France by every meaning of the word except if you think that living in a country for a century doesn't make it your own then the world should reconsider going back to Africa, to our original place if birth
They are my great-great-grandchildren 🤡
@@soundscape26Muslims from the middle east and Africa
@@soundscape26they carry the flag of what they are. National identity and cultural identity are 2 different things
Il n'y a pas de "diversité" en France, en France on est français et notre drapeau c'est le drapeau français.🇫🇷
Vive la France 🇫🇷
At least we should appreciate the fact that you are coming clean on the fact that you don't believe in the Liberté Égalité Fraternité thing written in the French constitution - I always knew that France was an ultra-conservative country, only different from Iran or Saudi Arabia because of being richer and integrated in the EU with more progressive countries neighbouring it. Thanks for coming clean on that!
There is diversity in France
Votre commentaire est risible. Oui en France on est français avec un drapeau français et il y a de la diversité. Diversité ne veut pas dire ne pas être français vous êtes inculte
Le drapeau français est bien présent. Ouvrez les yeux ou consulter
Those are not French flags.
Wow, really?
They need to leave. They're unwanted guests!!
Guests suggests they were once invited.. noone voted to invite them.
You don't get to decide on that
We have millions of them in U.K too.
I am so tired of hearing them complain . Don't they work!
That's their work......playing victims.
@@martin96991 yep that's right! I forgot. Take social security and go bite the hand that feeds you. I'm so feed up .
@@jean-francoisfafard647 You know that immigrants pay the same ammount in taxes as they recieve in social benefits? If you don't know you do, so don't be silly
@@erik_havoc LMAO no they don't. They can barely take care of themselves in poverty let alone have any left over to pay extra in taxes?
@@pythondre Extra? Do you even know how the taxsystem works? I bet you're the one who doesn't pay any
Funny how theyre able to hold th Amazigh flag in France freely while in Algeria youll get arrested for it .
Probably the people speaking French and assimilating to French culture. 🤦🏻♂️
@@Squirrelnut77 they are trying to change French culture, my friend.
Assimilation goes with Secularity ! They are simply violiting the constitution !
Suppose there is a war between Bulgaria and Romania, and you are someone who has mixed origins (your parents are from one country, but you are born in another, or something like that). In this case, the country for which you are rooting indicates your true nationality
@@Squirrelnut77 No assimilation without secularity
@@bogdar2019 Just like ALL nations throughout ALL of the history my man, you tried to change Africas culture, now they change yours, it's just a way history goes, culture isn't a monolith, especially french culture.
It's not racist on the French's part if they want to preserve their culture and ethnicity.
You can't barge in to another family's home and expect to be welcomed, much less be treated as family and co-owner.
This analogy may not be perfect but it follows logic to some extent.
I'm from Bulgaria. We're part of Europe and are within the European Union, but when I worked in France I didn't overstep any boundaries such waving the Bulgarian flag. Same when I was in the UK and Germany.
Why not?
The problem is
If someone comes to a European country and gains citizenship
He or she has the same rights as everyone
So by this it also becomes their home
And they could also be co owner
That’s the reality of it
Ask them if they identify as french, if they love the culture, or even if they would ever put religion before the human rights of the natives, then you'll have your answer as to why not. @jokbok995
Uh... there's absolutely no problem if you wave the Bulgarian flag abroad.
I think you should fly your country flag in other countries but you can’t pretend you are France (in this case) even if you have a French identity card that the problem imo, you can’t pick and choose when you consider yourself French (in this case)
I’m Portuguese, imagine i emigrate to France like a lot of my countrymen and start saying I’m French but continue behaving like a Portuguese off course French people would not accept me as french ,same thing if a French person comes to my country, it’s the way I see it, some people were born outside my country but are treated more like Portuguese tha they country of birth because they behave similarly to us with our culture, food and language ect.
@@santostv. You have a point. The whole idea of a state/country is that it stands for people who share common values, tradition, culture, etc.
We could have free travel and trade without necessarily eroding individual countries' identity and socio-political structure.
They just complain every where they go every day
they don't have enough. they want more.
When in Rome do as the Romans. In France wear a beret, drink wine & listen to Maurice Chevalier.
That is racist
@@CyrilleParis He dindnt mention about genes. Racism are only about genes.
@@gomerpyle1542 I'm a ching chiong in Poland. I stand in queues like a civilized person, eat pierogis and don't complain about the superiority of Chinese dim sums (nevertheless Chinese dim sums > pierogi), I don't steal anyone's unattended belongings in public, I don't turn parks into barbecue pits, I don't assault women at night, and I talk and walk like a local. This is adaptation and has nothing to do with racism.
EDIT: Chinese ghettos around the world (chinatowns) are welcoming. We don't block police from doing their duties, we like locals visiting chinatowns, locals won't get mugged. There's a big difference vs. the you-know-who ghettos.
How can you tell someone what to eat or drink and by the way even white french people eat Algerian and moroccan food just like british people eat indian food all the time.
This proves that those different cultures became part of the french culture long ago.
@@anthonychiu2062 I bet the cats and dogs aren't save with you around in Poland 😂
How about changing the behavior of her community?
You're french or you're not.
If you want to migrate it's because you want a better life because your country sucks. France is great because of the French who built it, the culture who made it the way it is. Maybe your religion and culture destroyed your country? If you want your culture why don't you go live in it? Let's be real.
Don't change what we built and what we love, assimilate, contribute, but don't demonize and transform. This is just appropriation, why? If you're unhappy why don't you go somewhere where most people agree with you?
If you come here and transform it, it will cease to be what you love.
I think it's kind of disrespectful to fly another flag like that. If you are truly French, fly the flag of France. You came to France to be French, not to represent some other country.
It's just a flag, it's nothing that serious. Virtually every immigrant community fly theirs on occasion.
@@soundscape26 I just find it disrespectful. It's like going to work at Coke and drinking Pepsi during lunch. "It's just a drink. It's nothing serious" is what you'd say
@@grogtgs Countries are not competing companies.
They are not french obviously.
@@altayaltnkok4428 Obviously they are.
@@soundscape26They are not.
@@soundscape26 The flags they wave say otherwise.
@@sakamotosan1887 They're the flags of their ancestry, they are likely dual nationals
Well don’t try making France Algeria and you be ok!!!
The thumbnail says what is french and then shows women waving flags of other countries,
What have you got to complain about? At least there is one person who is waving a French flag. The rest are mostly countries that were once French colonies.
There is only one person, you live in France yet you wave foreign flags and colonisation ended, and the thumbnail was saying what is french while people who clearly are not and who obviously do not consider themselves french while showing those foreign flags, yeah nothing to complain about,
Some may think linving in harmony with islam but see around what it has done to the world
This video only shows no integration. That is the problem: parallel communities / cultures.
What did you expect to see in the video in terms of integration? It's obvious that people tend to hang around with those similar to them, even more when many of the outsiders consider you a 2nd class citizen.
There’s nothing more far right than banning women from showing their hair
That's the least extreme thing they do and that's not to say it's not extreme, there's just much worse. Forced marriage (often to elderly relatives abroad) springs to mind.
There hardly french waving and promoting other flags stay in the country you wave the flag for
You all are insane
They’re german after all 🤣
You can't come and what food is to be served in schools...
French is whatever the ethnically French say they are.
There are no ethnic french since 1851
@@smal750ethnic french are the latin, celtic and Germanic people living there for over 1500 years
Diversity is no substitute for integration. Integrate first and foremost, and contribute your native culture second, within the cultural framework of your host country. Too many folks use the pretence of diversity as a reason to refuse their integration.
Assimilate and you will be fine. Unfortunately for you your religion often clashes with assimilating.
The people in the video seem perfectly integrated, no?
@@soundscape26waving foreign flags and headscarfs 😂
@@cmd7930 The flags are performative for the video, as for headscarves, you don't expect people to abandon their religion when they move to other countries, do you? Do Europeans do that when they move abroad?
Integration is being a law abiding citizen, not leaving native culture totally behind
This community posing real thread to every secular nation
The only way for you to show us that we can live together is by actively fighting Islamofascism within your community. There is no other way. We don't believe you anymore, and waving with your Pro-Palestine flags definitely aint helping. La seule façon pour vous de nous montrer que nous pouvons vivre ensemble est de lutter activement contre l’islamofascisme au sein de votre communauté. Il n'y a pas d'autre moyen. Nous ne vous croyons plus, et agiter vos drapeaux pro-palestiniens n’aide certainement pas.
☪️ancer
“I’m talking about culture, the implanting on our soil of a civilization with whom we share nothing.”
- Jordan Bardella, RN
It's so sad to see that people are regressing back to intolerance and to a tribalistic mentality. It's true that history repeats itself
You stand for nothing, your logic is non existent
They are clearly proud of not being french. Just look at the flags
They can be proud of both, it's pretty common among dual citizens. But it would help if most people from the hosting country didn't treat them like 2nd class citizens.
@@soundscape26they don’t have any French flags….. they clearly want to show that they are not part of France
@@irkiel That's the whole point of the video, to show their different origins, they won't go waving those flags in their daily lives.
They were born in France btw.
French are a distinct ethnicity. France is their homeland just like Mongolia is home of the Mongols. A country may expand or contract it's political influence at different eras but the identity of a nation is always based on the group of people who have been it's original residents. The national identity of France is based on the group of people who are racially and ethnically French while citizenship by birth or immigration is a political construct. So it's the people of France who will decide who is French. Just like they did by giving the largest number popular votes to National Rally.
French is not an ethnicity, it's a nationality.
@AdamEmmanuel2 And what's that "French way" in your opinion?
Why should we respect people who follow a religion, who doesn't respect basic human rights?
True.
@@soundscape26 Differentiate a German Shepherd from a Labrador.
If it is not clear what being French is, then can France be saved?
How surreal is this? Really? Why France has to let all this happen?
There are thousands of people who'd like to integrate to French culture....these folks definitely do not even have a clue.
I certainly can say what's NOT french.
French decide what is French, because they haven’t been neutered, unlike their neighbor, who could not even keep their nuclear power industry lol
True, there are no US military bases in France.
The French decide what's French. I never thought there would come a day where a statement about the French didn't end with a joke.
Just because you were born in a stable doesn’t make you a horse…
Are you really comparing animals to human beings?
@@soundscape26Yes.
@@KANGZSLAYER1488 Doesn't make sense at any level, we're all of the same species and animals don't have nationalities as far as I can tell.
@@soundscape26 Humans are of different sub species.First go and study about race realism.
Access to Europeans IS NOT a human right. OUT
It's 2024 and ppl are still stuck with two thousand years inheritance of stupidity.
You wouldn't say that if it was your OWN COUNTRY!!!!!
@@europeanliving6077 What gave you that impression? Your own projection?
I have been saying this in my country for decades.
@@thoraero Identity is a fundamental part of the human experience, it predates agriculture and language for hundred of thousands of years.
@@olafsigursons Good argument. But isn't conserving "identiy" with traditional or religious practices, at the expense of progression toward contemporary values, considered "conservatives" or "right-wing" throughout our modern politics?
My arguement still stands. This is brainless.
@@thoraero If you strip a human being of his national, geographical and/or cultural identity, you are being left with a being that only lives to work and serve a corporation.
What is human existence without tradition, folklore, local dances, national tales, community-based legendary epics and the cultivation of a shared collectivism that only national identities know how to cultivate the best?
I guess in the future our only identity will be coca cola vs pepsi....
Wake up France!!🇫🇷
"Flying the flag for French diversity" = flying every flag except French (or even European) flags 🤡🤡🤡
Who decides what’s French!? The FRENCH
Where islam goes, blood flows
in answer to the title of this video it certainly shouldn't be the people who arrived five minutes ago who decide what french is
The people in the video were born in France.
BS!!!! You are not France!
People of the place of origin have the right to said that is their home.
It's their right. But if you act like a stranger don't complain people treat you like one though.
just sad . i swear europe is falling apart. i dont understand why you go to there country respect there laws but come to europe and there laws are not respected jihab should be banned in Europe period
They should be waving french flags. Ungrateful people.
Why they can't live in their own country?
They must respect the french society and democracy.Islam is not a european value.
Better question: what is being Palestinian? What is being Moroccan? What is being Algerian? Now apply the same standard to France and you will have your answer of who is French.
Inferior in every way
Why you come to france and wave a flag from your country???
Who defines what is French ? The French. Who are the French ? The answer is not skin colour, creed or surname ; the French are those who adhere to a COMMON project name France. A multi-secular project that is bigger than the sum of its adherents. You can't come to France and pretend you will alter this project without first contributing to it. It's simple decency.
French is an ethnicity.
To be french is sharing the same french values wherever you came from,if not ( like the islamists) you must leave.
@@emmanuelboudot9631 French means white people.
National identity and cultural identity are 2 different things. A sushi dish prepared in Paris is still a japanese dish made in france, not a french dish even if it was born in france.
well, i have to say that islam isn't the traditional people or religion of france. and if you look at the history of islam it does have colonial tendencies. I'd say maybe colonizers from another country DONT get to decide what "french" is?
Si t’es pas contente décalisse !!!!!
Maybe they should wave the france's flag first?
Why is their opinion framed as "''far right''? Its just common sense.
The leftie dw blocks me
They want you to accept their life style..
Peaceful community spared peace..😂. France ❤ from Hindustan..for original francian
India first. Soon, Ashok ka Chakr will be replaced by shahada. And orange colour (not Saffron, stop claiming Saffron) will be replaced by green.
Davos has won …
Won what?
Fear.. becasue it's close. Consequences are coming.
For some reason, it give me the creeps when I see them and as if they own France.
Get out.
I hope they all leave
the french decide whats french
Islam is light and peace❤