The experience you had tearing it down, thinking through the process of how it must work, speculation and confirmation is a highly rewarding result. Thank you for bringing us along for the trip.
As the Rental Manager for a large forklift dealer in Australia, I take my hat off to you mate for your diligence and systematic approach to trouble shooting your way through, as some of the other commenters have stated. TVH will be your best bet for parts. These Toyotas albeit an older model are still very serviceable and easy enough to source parts for, if you rebuild that trans and look after it, it’ll damn near go forever. These older basic machines are bloody robust and nice and relatively easy to work on. Well done fella !!!
Thank! That means a lot! I was very surprised to see how simple these machines are! I have been ordering a bunch of parts from TVH, so thanks for the suggestion! Everyone seems to love these old Toyotas! I'm hoping to get a lot of hours out of it! I have a new appreciation for all the techs out there working on these machines!
I build transmissions on the side. When a transmission has been subjected to water, the paper friction material will break down or delaminate from the plate. When gaskets are very brittle and hard to remover with a scraper, that is evidence one has been extremely hot. Great work. Good video.
Parts for that forklift can be found thru any equipment rental yard or forklift dealer via a company called TVH. It should have all the aftermarket parts for your forklift. Also the hose that you shortened at the beginning of the video has failed, it is soaked with propaline ( what make propane stink), will be full of pin sized holes that cause you headaches. Replace it with heater hose…. Good Luck!
This is gold! Thanks! I was able to find about 90% of the parts through a website called liftpartswarehouse.com. You're dead on, every part except for a few had packing slips with TVH on it. Appreciate the info on the hose. It seemed extremely soft when I cut it. I'll definitely get it replaced!
I have one of these lifts. The other guy is correct. Parts aren’t an issue. All the hydraulic seals are available aftermarket. Don’t pay Toyota prices.
I have one of these lifts. The other guy is correct. Parts aren’t an issue. All the hydraulic seals are available aftermarket. Don’t pay Toyota prices.
Well you had it worked out in theory really well. Yes the piston came so far it tipped and jammed. Every fibre disc destroyed. You must clean every hole out in the transaxle. When putting it all together. I do this type of work myself but never a forklift. I learned at your cost today. Thank you for sharing this experience. I have complete respect for your study and analysis of the machine. Impressed with that hoist too. We can see it flexing. Great effort you put in here. Well done man.
Thank you! I'm glad you were able to learn from the video! So far it's been a fun project to diagnose and figure out. The hoist did a great job! Pushed it to it's limits.
I think water got adsorbed in the friction material then the heat of the spinning disks expanded the water into steam. And let part of the material lose from the disks that travels around in the assembly until it gets stuck on one half of the disks. So you have one thicker side and a thinner side. This could also wedge the pressure plate. Water would be the main culprit.
Yea sir, i was just gunna same the same, im a forklift technician and you best bet you will need equipment to fix equipment you got some balls for doing it on your driveway tho give you props
I just found a Datsun FG105 forklift in my area for $800. It is propane and runs and lifts good, but it will not move, because the pinion and ring gear in the differential are bad. It lifts 5000 lbs and it has dual tires on the front.
I have the same forklift. Mine is a FGC45. Which means it’s the 10k lbs capacity. Same basic Forklift. The back counterweight is 6500 lbs on mine. If you do scrap yours , I would gladly by some parts off yours. Like the seat, and some other tidbits.
I think you've found the main issue. Hopefully you can find all the parts you need. I'd take the rad to a rad shop and have it pressure tested before you condem it.
If you have a hoist and a trans stand you can drop them out the bottom, however how this fella managed to do it with some really rudimentary tools and diligence was outstanding.
I would personally just throw some new clutch disks in it, clean and flush the whole trans fluid system and I’m sure it will work. That stuck plate was the problem, the clutch disks were the cause.
if/ when you get it going, plan on replacing the mast lift chains and hoses. if those chains break, bad shit happens fast. also, always try to unbolt the torque converter before splitting the transmission. by doing it the way you did puts stress on the front pump.
Thanks for the info! Yeah, looking back you're 100% correct, should have unbolted the torque converter first. When I reassemble it, I'll be sure to do the opposite and bolt it once the engine is attahced to the transmission. I'll know for next time!
Came across your channel by luck and as a motorcycle mechanic I had great joy watching something like this torn apart and rebuilt. Subscribed just from this video. Good job dude
I will be eagerly awaiting part 2! I have driven forklifts for many years, but never did much maintenance. It's a lot of fun watching someone else tear one apart.
Great job! I think you nailed the drive problem. Regarding the contamination of the transmission fluid, have you confirmed that it is indeed coolant and not water? Rain water can enter through a transmission breather vent if there is one. If there was a radiator leak, I would expect to find ATF in the cooling system vs coolant in the transmission as the transmission cooler is normally under greater pressure than the engine coolant, so if there was any leakage between them the fluid under greater pressure would flow into the fluid under less pressure, which is typically how it goes with engine oil coolers. Now, you can absolutely have coolant go into the transmission cooler through heat cycling, when the engine is off and the hot coolant maintains pressure while the transmission lines do not, but you'd see mixing on both sides at the very least. I reccomend you have the radiator and cooler pressure tested, and you can send off a sample of the ATF for analysis where glycol would be a marker. Looking forward to seeing how it plays out!
Appreciate you taking the time to type all this out! I never did confirm where the water was entering the transmission. The original radiator was in pretty rough shape and I saw some corrosion on the outside that looked like it was caused by a leak. I just assumed that it would be damaged internally as well. The transmission has a breather and filter that sits right on top of the housing by the spools. It's very possible that water entered it this way. It did look like the lift was sitting outside for some time. What you're saying about the coolant and the ATF makes perfect sense to me that you would see mixing on both sides. I didn't even think about the high pressure of the ATF overcoming the pressure of the coolant. The coolant looked fine and I did not notice any oil in it. I know there was a couple of mechanics attempting to fix it before I got my hands on it and it looks like they changed out some of the fluids. So it's hard to say what they actually did to it. Appreciate all the help! I'll definitely look into having the radiator tested before putting it back in!
I have a Mitsubishi FGC25N. It's sorta the same, 4500 lb capacity but anyways, my transmission is slipping slightly. One day I'm gonna have to pull the transmission and it won't be fun
No. Not fun at all! It's quite the project. I know there's some additives that's can help slipping transmissons. May buy you a little more time before the rebuild
@@BustedBeaters So are all these transmissions around 4K to rebuild? mine is from 2007 and it has 15K hours on it. I want to pull the engine and transmission but if its gonna be 4K then forget it lmao. In my manual it says that I have to remove the steering column. And it also says you cannot remove the engine first then the transmission last. Why is that? Also keep up the videos, It really helps rookies like me who don't know what their doing lol
Have you tried changing the fluid? On my 06 Impala with 200k miles on it, I changed the fluid from a dark brown and it never had issues after that. Yeah, it’s not a forklift, but that transmission was infamous for issues and such a simple operation fixed my issues. Also make sure that the transmission is full and not low.
@@Jman116Films Tried changing the fluid. same results, Apparently there's a transmission filter but I cannot find it anywhere, The towmotor also has 15K hours on it, It also slips bad when its cold. You really gotta rev it to get it to go.
This is interesting. Not sure how much a transmission would cost for your machine. I ended up getting the parts from a company called Joseph Industries out of Ohio. You could always give them a call and see what the cost would be. They were nice to deal with in my experience. Your steering column must sit above the transmission. I'm not sure why you wouldn't be able to remove the engine and transmission separately. There must be a good reason though!
Oh I knowww! I went all out ordering the parts for it hoping it would work out. I was so ready to take it straight to the scrap yard if it didn't though!
@BustedBeaters yes. It does a very good job. You can pour it in a bucket and soak the part for some time and it will remove the rust. It can be reused multiple times as well.
@@BustedBeaters I agree, it works very well and you can reuse it. I use it often, it's not a harsh chemical. You can submerge a pair of rusty pliers in it with polymer grips and it will not dissolve the polymer. It's available at Harbor Freight and the cost is reasonable. Good luck with the rebuild and look forward to future vids.
Evaporust works amazingly well. It's 80-90% water and I find that if really any of that water evaporates off it starts to leave a black surface on steel. I always add a bit of water to new evaporust and then every time I put it back into the bottle after a project I top it off with some more water. It also helps to do your soaking in a sealed container. It's probably a bigger issue here in the desert than on the east coast. Also, submerge the part entirely, not just soak half and then flip it.
im upset you dont have more followers. you deserve the attention . first time stumbling on your channel but im here to stay, and the fact that youre doing this all alone! good luck to you brother !
Really appreciate this! Growth has been slow but it's been a fun ride! Just going to keep on trying to make some good videos! Hopefully the subscribers will keep on coming!
I've operated these Toyotas for at least a decade back in the day and have messed around with them. They are virtually bulletproof, listen to that engine purr propane makes engines last. I've never messed with the tranny but always assumed it used a hydraulic clutch as I'm constantly riding the clutch to distribute power between hydraulic power and between forward/reverse and have never burnt a physical one out, whatsoever
Yeah I never really knew about them either until this one. Really rather simple at the end of the day. That's great to hear! I'm hoping to get a lot of use out of this one!
As an ASE certified tech whos also rebuilt a shit load of transmissions, well done man. Btw, pulling the engine and transmission out of a forklift looks so easy compared to a car or truck haha.
As a forklift tech doing the axle shafts can suck they don’t make a socket for the Retention rings in the axle so you have to use a chisel kinda stupid design but as you talk to techs tell all tell you the same thing! But sick job so far man! Awesome work! Also if you have a bell forklift in your area they are a Toyota lift dealer and can source parts for you!
Ahhh ok. Seems crazy to me there's no tool to do this. There has to be tons of these forklifts out there! Seems like they would have created one lol glad to hear this is normal though! Appreciate the support and info! I'll look to see if there's a bell in my area. I have a new appreciation for all the forklift techs now!
Fantastic video, bro! I start working for the company that some users mentioned and I was watching this video to improve my knowledge of forklift mechanics. And you helped me a lot! Great project! Greetings from Brazil my friend 🟡🟢🔵
Congratulations, a very neat logical breakdown and mission completed, writing this without knowing if the intercooler is leak tested, water is the culprit defiantly, whether it’s weather or coolant ? I suggest maybe corrosive tap water to blame? Cheers fella
Yeah no kidding. "Robby Leighton" youtube channel just paid $5000 for an engine rebuild on his old Toyota forklift. He regrets it now, since most people bought a skid steer with pallet forks to replace them and now most people are replacing their the skid steers with telehandlers instead. That is why you find so many old forklifts for $800 nowadays. Time marches on.
Well done lad, I really admire your enthusiasm to have a go. No one ever learnt anything from doing things they know. I think you’re going to get out of this pretty cheap and have a good forklift at the end. Could you imagine the cost of paying a dealership to do it. 😮. Cheers mate, Stuart 🇦🇺
Thanks! I hope you're right! I know that I'm going to have to put some money into it, but I believe I can get it running fairly cheap. I don't even want to think about how much that would cost! I don't think I could justify paying someone to do the work. Would probably make sense just to purchase another one!
i'm going to be fair if you can find the clutch plates i think you should be able to fix that yourself also, change every seal you can (if you know the replacement are better than the old ones)
@@BustedBeaters understandable, however, it was also an example of unintentionally perfectly executed slapstick humor, and as such, I did, very gratefully, accept the inclination to laugh out loud. P.S. Those things are great fun, I used to use two different ones in the old family business. One with a 30 foot boom, that had a slant six and a manual transmission, and later, a NIssan electric with some side shifting action. It was a 3 wheeler.
The symptoms you were having where a direction is permanently engaged is quite common on old British tanks. Usually it's a hydraulic directional control valve that is stuck.
Love your tenacity,something not many have anymore,,looking forward to see if you fixit but i know you have,i was on tenterhooks whilst you pulled the big stuff off as its those moments that flash back in your life as you lay in bed after waking up and checking you still have all your bodybits attached and it was just a bad dream😂
Rebuild that thing, some new clutch discs and piston seals, clean up the rust, make sure the steel reaction discs are not coned too much or just replace them, she will run forever
Interesting video. Manhandling that counterweight and that carriage that came down were dodgy as hell 😁 Still you get a lot done with limited means 👍 If you'd make longer video's about this content where you show more of the process (and the hardship😉), like a 1 hour video or so, I'd for sure watch that too 🙂 $400 for that forklift is a steal, especially as it looks like you can fix the transmission. I think it has sideshift too?
You're not kidding! Everything on this thing weighs so much! Concrete floors would make a massive difference too! The engine lift kept sinking into the asphalt lol Appreciate the advice! I'm still trying to find that happy place of keeping the videos fast paced but not leaving out too much of the details. I figured for $400 I couldn't go too wrong! You're correct. The lift has sideshift as well. It'll be extremely useful if I can get this thing running!
Random life hack - Those oil jugs are shaped that way on purpose. You're suppose to pour them the opposite way. It keeps the oil from glugging ( idk if glugging is a word ). Look up how to pour oil on here, I did it wrong too for 20 years lol.
That happened to a number of forklifts at a place I worked, turns out an employee was foot flat and just shifting forward to reverse or vice versa and would jam up the drum in the direction it was traveling and that forklift was down for maintenance because he was angry he didn't get his own forklift 😂 so the company went to hire forklifts and instead of having 6 they only have 4 😂
omg, the bumper jack being used like a come-along ... like they weren't a ankle/nut buster before... NGL I'm going to remember that, i'd never thought of that and I bet that would come in handy.
i've rebuilt the transmission in my ford fusion before. the forward piston seal broke. its always worth going through he whole thing and replace anything worn. if i just replaced the pistons i wouldn't of seen that my overdrive clutch was burnt. i hope you were more thorough with the forklift transmission than just the forward & reverse clutch pack.
Im so glad your video popped up. I gotta give you alot of credit for attacking this project. Great job . The footage you filmed is excellent. Cant wait too see the outcome. Thanks
Get friendly with your local Waterjet jobshop. They can cut out those clutch plates. I just did our shop forklift brakes, dealer wanted $1000 for just the brake pads and rotors. I got the friction material from McMaster and made the brake pads and rotors on the waterjet cost me under $100. Should do a video on it but no one watches my videos anyway.
This is really cool! You should make a video on that! I never even considered buying the material and having it watterjetted. Wonder what a shop would charge to do this?
I love your attitude. Fearless. Never pulled an engine, and you pulled it. The logic you apply along with the research and finally the education you provide is top quality. Remember - if another human built it, so can you.
Hope everything goes well with your forklift project, but if the gas tank bracket is vertical it came like that from factory, I'll leave it like it was . There's a part's store called Total Source they have tons of parts for a lot of different old brands. I have worked on forklift for 17 years.
Yeah the propane tank is made for a horizontal tank. I'm planning on getting the correct tank for it. I'll be sure to check out total source! Thanks for the help!
i know you probably will not see this but if you are going to be fixing things in or on your driveway get rid of the tarmac/asphalt and replace it with concrete asphalt/tarmac is very very soft especially when it gets warm outside and trolly jacks axel stands and engine hoists will just sink into the asphalt.
Such a relief when you find the issue. I've done my fair share of tear-downs and found nothing obvious. Think you could treat yourself to a press. They're cheap enough and often on Market place. I'll make your work a lot safer - Happy hunting- Paul 😃😃😎😎
Enjoyed the video, I'll subscribe and keep a eye out for new content. I've never had a Transmission apart but makes sense it went bad if there was water and i agree with the radiator as the cause.
@@BustedBeaters you could always take the hoist off and throw a tarp over it outside. I used mine on grass and a dirt floor several times and was glad I had it. The little electric hoists they sell come on and off easy and are really strong with the cable doubled.
Correct assessment,the water dissolved and the glue holding the friction material causing either no drive or lockup of the assembly’s. Regards Chris Bailey
I've love your deal on the fork lift. I always wanted one to lift things up quickly table height, for easy working on things that would of been down on ground level. Plus a lot of other uses on a farm.
The experience you had tearing it down, thinking through the process of how it must work, speculation and confirmation is a highly rewarding result. Thank you for bringing us along for the trip.
Appreciate you watching! So far it's been a great learning experience!
@@BustedBeaters seriously, its nice to see people tackling problems and using their critical thinking skills. 14:14 you got it haha.
@@BustedBeatersyou remind me with CEE channel.. keep it up man 🌹
As the Rental Manager for a large forklift dealer in Australia, I take my hat off to you mate for your diligence and systematic approach to trouble shooting your way through, as some of the other commenters have stated. TVH will be your best bet for parts. These Toyotas albeit an older model are still very serviceable and easy enough to source parts for, if you rebuild that trans and look after it, it’ll damn near go forever. These older basic machines are bloody robust and nice and relatively easy to work on.
Well done fella !!!
Thank! That means a lot! I was very surprised to see how simple these machines are! I have been ordering a bunch of parts from TVH, so thanks for the suggestion! Everyone seems to love these old Toyotas! I'm hoping to get a lot of hours out of it! I have a new appreciation for all the techs out there working on these machines!
Toyota forklift for 400 dollars is a GREAT DEAL. Toyota forklifts are the best in the business and hold their value really well.
I've heard this from a lot of people. I can see why! They're easy to work on and extremely reliable.
Yep they are virtually bulletproof. Drove one from 0 hours to 8,000 and I was in no was easy on it and nothing other than tires and oil changes etc
I build transmissions on the side. When a transmission has been subjected to water, the paper friction material will break down or delaminate from the plate. When gaskets are very brittle and hard to remover with a scraper, that is evidence one has been extremely hot. Great work. Good video.
Oh awesome! Appreciate the info! I think it's safe to say the water delaminated the plates
This forklift project is why I am subscribing. I hope it goes well
Appreciate that! Working on the next video now! Thanks for the sub!
Parts for that forklift can be found thru any equipment rental yard or forklift dealer via a company called TVH. It should have all the aftermarket parts for your forklift. Also the hose that you shortened at the beginning of the video has failed, it is soaked with propaline ( what make propane stink), will be full of pin sized holes that cause you headaches. Replace it with heater hose….
Good Luck!
This is gold! Thanks! I was able to find about 90% of the parts through a website called liftpartswarehouse.com. You're dead on, every part except for a few had packing slips with TVH on it. Appreciate the info on the hose. It seemed extremely soft when I cut it. I'll definitely get it replaced!
I have one of these lifts. The other guy is correct. Parts aren’t an issue. All the hydraulic seals are available aftermarket. Don’t pay Toyota prices.
I have one of these lifts. The other guy is correct. Parts aren’t an issue. All the hydraulic seals are available aftermarket. Don’t pay Toyota prices.
@mattym8 I don't have one of these, but I do lift. Parts are an issue, and I pay Toyota prices.
Lol sorry, I had to
Hercules seal in Florida for seal kits.
Well you had it worked out in theory really well. Yes the piston came so far it tipped and jammed. Every fibre disc destroyed. You must clean every hole out in the transaxle. When putting it all together. I do this type of work myself but never a forklift. I learned at your cost today. Thank you for sharing this experience. I have complete respect for your study and analysis of the machine. Impressed with that hoist too. We can see it flexing. Great effort you put in here. Well done man.
Thank you! I'm glad you were able to learn from the video! So far it's been a fun project to diagnose and figure out. The hoist did a great job! Pushed it to it's limits.
I think water got adsorbed in the friction material then the heat of the spinning disks expanded the water into steam. And let part of the material lose from the disks that travels around in the assembly until it gets stuck on one half of the disks. So you have one thicker side and a thinner side. This could also wedge the pressure plate.
Water would be the main culprit.
You need a forklift to fix that forklift.
You're not kidding! I was thinking the exact same thing!
Yea sir, i was just gunna same the same, im a forklift technician and you best bet you will need equipment to fix equipment you got some balls for doing it on your driveway tho give you props
Great to see an old survivor. Toyota forklift tech approves :-)
Love the vid, perfect timing on each scene. A lot of new youtubers put too much filler bs in but this was the sweet spot imo.
Ahhh yes! This is great to hear! I'm guilty of that for sure! Trying to lean with each video. Thanks for the feedback!
You dove in ... good work! Can't wait to see next video...
Appreciate that! Working on it right now!
I just found a Datsun FG105 forklift in my area for $800. It is propane and runs and lifts good, but it will not move, because the pinion and ring gear in the differential are bad. It lifts 5000 lbs and it has dual tires on the front.
Sounds similar to the one I bought. Hopefully you're able to find the diff parts you'll need! Partsnwith my lift are very hit and miss apparently
I have the same forklift.
Mine is a FGC45. Which means it’s the 10k lbs capacity. Same basic Forklift. The back counterweight is 6500 lbs on mine.
If you do scrap yours , I would gladly by some parts off yours. Like the seat, and some other tidbits.
Sounds good! We'll see how things go with it. If I do decide to scrap it I'll be sure to reach out
I think you've found the main issue. Hopefully you can find all the parts you need. I'd take the rad to a rad shop and have it pressure tested before you condem it.
For sure! New radiators are not super expensive so I'll most likely replace it.
Very interesting. I've never seen someone remove the transmission from a forklift before. Always wondered how those come apart.
This was a completely new experience for me too!
If you have a hoist and a trans stand you can drop them out the bottom, however how this fella managed to do it with some really rudimentary tools and diligence was outstanding.
The epitome of "making it work" using what you had on hand as safely as you could have. My dad would have loved to see this.
I would personally just throw some new clutch disks in it, clean and flush the whole trans fluid system and I’m sure it will work. That stuck plate was the problem, the clutch disks were the cause.
Bro, your disassembly process is super impressive. Master tech level attention and organisation.
if/ when you get it going, plan on replacing the mast lift chains and hoses. if those chains break, bad shit happens fast.
also, always try to unbolt the torque converter before splitting the transmission. by doing it the way you did puts stress on the front pump.
Thanks for the info! Yeah, looking back you're 100% correct, should have unbolted the torque converter first. When I reassemble it, I'll be sure to do the opposite and bolt it once the engine is attahced to the transmission. I'll know for next time!
Came across your channel by luck and as a motorcycle mechanic I had great joy watching something like this torn apart and rebuilt. Subscribed just from this video. Good job dude
Appreciate the sub! Glad you enjoyed it!
I will be eagerly awaiting part 2! I have driven forklifts for many years, but never did much maintenance. It's a lot of fun watching someone else tear one apart.
Thanks! This was all new and a bunch of fun for me as well!
Great job! I think you nailed the drive problem. Regarding the contamination of the transmission fluid, have you confirmed that it is indeed coolant and not water? Rain water can enter through a transmission breather vent if there is one. If there was a radiator leak, I would expect to find ATF in the cooling system vs coolant in the transmission as the transmission cooler is normally under greater pressure than the engine coolant, so if there was any leakage between them the fluid under greater pressure would flow into the fluid under less pressure, which is typically how it goes with engine oil coolers. Now, you can absolutely have coolant go into the transmission cooler through heat cycling, when the engine is off and the hot coolant maintains pressure while the transmission lines do not, but you'd see mixing on both sides at the very least. I reccomend you have the radiator and cooler pressure tested, and you can send off a sample of the ATF for analysis where glycol would be a marker. Looking forward to seeing how it plays out!
Appreciate you taking the time to type all this out! I never did confirm where the water was entering the transmission. The original radiator was in pretty rough shape and I saw some corrosion on the outside that looked like it was caused by a leak. I just assumed that it would be damaged internally as well. The transmission has a breather and filter that sits right on top of the housing by the spools. It's very possible that water entered it this way. It did look like the lift was sitting outside for some time. What you're saying about the coolant and the ATF makes perfect sense to me that you would see mixing on both sides. I didn't even think about the high pressure of the ATF overcoming the pressure of the coolant. The coolant looked fine and I did not notice any oil in it. I know there was a couple of mechanics attempting to fix it before I got my hands on it and it looks like they changed out some of the fluids. So it's hard to say what they actually did to it. Appreciate all the help! I'll definitely look into having the radiator tested before putting it back in!
I have a Mitsubishi FGC25N. It's sorta the same, 4500 lb capacity but anyways, my transmission is slipping slightly. One day I'm gonna have to pull the transmission and it won't be fun
No. Not fun at all! It's quite the project. I know there's some additives that's can help slipping transmissons. May buy you a little more time before the rebuild
@@BustedBeaters So are all these transmissions around 4K to rebuild? mine is from 2007 and it has 15K hours on it. I want to pull the engine and transmission but if its gonna be 4K then forget it lmao.
In my manual it says that I have to remove the steering column. And it also says you cannot remove the engine first then the transmission last. Why is that?
Also keep up the videos, It really helps rookies like me who don't know what their doing lol
Have you tried changing the fluid? On my 06 Impala with 200k miles on it, I changed the fluid from a dark brown and it never had issues after that. Yeah, it’s not a forklift, but that transmission was infamous for issues and such a simple operation fixed my issues. Also make sure that the transmission is full and not low.
@@Jman116Films Tried changing the fluid. same results, Apparently there's a transmission filter but I cannot find it anywhere, The towmotor also has 15K hours on it, It also slips bad when its cold. You really gotta rev it to get it to go.
This is interesting. Not sure how much a transmission would cost for your machine. I ended up getting the parts from a company called Joseph Industries out of Ohio. You could always give them a call and see what the cost would be. They were nice to deal with in my experience. Your steering column must sit above the transmission. I'm not sure why you wouldn't be able to remove the engine and transmission separately. There must be a good reason though!
"this is my first engine im removing, so i have no idea what im doing" - love it, you got a new subscriber - lets goo, learning by doing
Absolutely! The best way to learn!
So, as you have everything apart, it can be cleaned and properly serviced, put back together and painted. Be proud of repairs.
Nice job dude, I admire your tenacity! And that you got this done in 100 degree heat. I can’t believe how freaking complex a forklift is.
Oh I knowww! I went all out ordering the parts for it hoping it would work out. I was so ready to take it straight to the scrap yard if it didn't though!
nice video good job man keeps it up
That's crazy you got to take out that much stuff now I know never to work on one of them😂
Hahaha I have a much greater appreciation for forklift mechanics now!
Still can’t believe the chick-fil-A staff didn’t come out and help us change the oil in the parking lot lol
For real man! Such bad customer service lol My pleasure. Pshhh
Evaporust bath for the clutch housing might be a good idea to clean off all that rust.
I've never used Evaporust before. Does it do a good job?
@BustedBeaters yes. It does a very good job. You can pour it in a bucket and soak the part for some time and it will remove the rust. It can be reused multiple times as well.
@@BustedBeaters I agree, it works very well and you can reuse it. I use it often, it's not a harsh chemical. You can submerge a pair of rusty pliers in it with polymer grips and it will not dissolve the polymer. It's available at Harbor Freight and the cost is reasonable. Good luck with the rebuild and look forward to future vids.
@@BustedBeaters Yes it does, can also use an acid dilution, but evaporust is better to work with...as in not acid
Evaporust works amazingly well. It's 80-90% water and I find that if really any of that water evaporates off it starts to leave a black surface on steel. I always add a bit of water to new evaporust and then every time I put it back into the bottle after a project I top it off with some more water. It also helps to do your soaking in a sealed container. It's probably a bigger issue here in the desert than on the east coast. Also, submerge the part entirely, not just soak half and then flip it.
im upset you dont have more followers. you deserve the attention . first time stumbling on your channel but im here to stay, and the fact that youre doing this all alone! good luck to you brother !
Really appreciate this! Growth has been slow but it's been a fun ride! Just going to keep on trying to make some good videos! Hopefully the subscribers will keep on coming!
I've operated these Toyotas for at least a decade back in the day and have messed around with them. They are virtually bulletproof, listen to that engine purr propane makes engines last. I've never messed with the tranny but always assumed it used a hydraulic clutch as I'm constantly riding the clutch to distribute power between hydraulic power and between forward/reverse and have never burnt a physical one out, whatsoever
Yeah I never really knew about them either until this one. Really rather simple at the end of the day. That's great to hear! I'm hoping to get a lot of use out of this one!
As an ASE certified tech whos also rebuilt a shit load of transmissions, well done man. Btw, pulling the engine and transmission out of a forklift looks so easy compared to a car or truck haha.
Appreciate it! For sure! Little more room and they're a lot simpler. That's for sure
Just a mechanical engineer hanging out here. I know nothing about fork lift transmissions, so that was very interesting, thanks a lot!
This was a good transmission to start on. Pretty simple! I'm a mechanical engineer too!
I am impressed young man great problem solving skills. You’re going to have a great running unit when put back together. Great job.
Appreciate that! I hope you're right!
That is very brave of you; tackling that huge job solo. Can't wait for the next vid.👍👍👍
Appreciate it! Going to be needing help getting everything back in that's for sure!
As a forklift tech doing the axle shafts can suck they don’t make a socket for the Retention rings in the axle so you have to use a chisel kinda stupid design but as you talk to techs tell all tell you the same thing! But sick job so far man! Awesome work! Also if you have a bell forklift in your area they are a Toyota lift dealer and can source parts for you!
Ahhh ok. Seems crazy to me there's no tool to do this. There has to be tons of these forklifts out there! Seems like they would have created one lol glad to hear this is normal though!
Appreciate the support and info! I'll look to see if there's a bell in my area.
I have a new appreciation for all the forklift techs now!
20:55 "It ain't stupid if it works!" That *is* the saying, but it is almost always still stupid; it just worked 😅
Fantastic video, bro! I start working for the company that some users mentioned and I was watching this video to improve my knowledge of forklift mechanics. And you helped me a lot! Great project! Greetings from Brazil my friend 🟡🟢🔵
I'm by no means a forklift mechanic, but I'm glad you were able to get something out of the videos! Good luck with the new job! Thanks for watching!
Well done sir. You just earned a new subscriber.
Thank you! Appreciate the sub!
Congratulations, a very neat logical breakdown and mission completed, writing this without knowing if the intercooler is leak tested, water is the culprit defiantly, whether it’s weather or coolant ? I suggest maybe corrosive tap water to blame? Cheers fella
8:25 bro is pulling all the doohickeys out of the garage to move the counterweight 😂😂
You have no idea how right you are about this! 🤣 Thought I was going to have to phone a friend!
Ive rebuilt a few forklift transmissions. They're actually pretty easy to work on.
Nice work doing it yourself!! Agreed, for that price, throw some packs in there and should be good for use!
Appreciate it! Turned out to be a bigger project than I expected! I'll be rebuilding the transmission myself. We'll see how it goes!
Great video! You've been putting in the work on RUclips. Hope the views keep climbing for you on this series!
Appreciate it! I've been really trying to improve the quality of my videos!
Scotch brite is your friend!!!! Mad respect for you…you got stones bruh, you got stones!!
Appreciate it! Definitely used some scotch Brite with this one
Nice video man! Hope it is just some clutches as that would be much better than a 4k rebuild!
Appreciate that! I hope so too! Want to get it reliable but also don't want to sink a ton of money into it
Yeah no kidding. "Robby Leighton" youtube channel just paid $5000 for an engine rebuild on his old Toyota forklift. He regrets it now, since most people bought a skid steer with pallet forks to replace them and now most people are replacing their the skid steers with telehandlers instead. That is why you find so many old forklifts for $800 nowadays. Time marches on.
Oh yeah my dream is to get a skid steer. Used, they were significantly more than the forklifts when I was looking. May be a good project one day!
Great job!
You got a lot done in 24 minutes
It's tough condensing all that work into 24 minutes!
14 hrs later! 😂
Well done lad, I really admire your enthusiasm to have a go. No one ever learnt anything from doing things they know. I think you’re going to get out of this pretty cheap and have a good forklift at the end. Could you imagine the cost of paying a dealership to do it. 😮. Cheers mate, Stuart 🇦🇺
Thanks! I hope you're right! I know that I'm going to have to put some money into it, but I believe I can get it running fairly cheap. I don't even want to think about how much that would cost! I don't think I could justify paying someone to do the work. Would probably make sense just to purchase another one!
Great job...digging in deep is sometimes how ya learn how things work.
This breakdown and your commentary were excellent. You just earned my subscription 👍🏽Thanks
Thanks for the sub!
Excellent editing. You are a brave soul to take that down to the nubs. Cant wait for part 2!
Appreciate it! Learning a lot on the way, that's for sure!
i'm going to be fair
if you can find the clutch plates i think you should be able to fix that yourself
also, change every seal you can (if you know the replacement are better than the old ones)
That is hell of a project, very cool series!
2:23 🤣🤣🤣 that moment when everything came to a halt.
Scared me to death!
@@BustedBeaters understandable, however, it was also an example of unintentionally perfectly executed slapstick humor, and as such, I did, very gratefully, accept the inclination to laugh out loud. P.S. Those things are great fun, I used to use two different ones in the old family business. One with a 30 foot boom, that had a slant six and a manual transmission, and later, a NIssan electric with some side shifting action. It was a 3 wheeler.
Thanks for the intersting video, it just randomly popped on my feed. Well worth watching.
Thanks for watching. Glad youtube is pushing the video a little!
Curious? I don't even have a fork lift or ever use one... you got me
The symptoms you were having where a direction is permanently engaged is quite common on old British tanks. Usually it's a hydraulic directional control valve that is stuck.
Interesting! Maybe one day I'll have one of these tanks lol
Pretty solid project! Can't wait for the Part2 :D Greetings from Germany!
Hey! Thanks! Working on part 2 now!
Love your tenacity,something not many have anymore,,looking forward to see if you fixit but i know you have,i was on tenterhooks whilst you pulled the big stuff off as its those moments that flash back in your life as you lay in bed after waking up and checking you still have all your bodybits attached and it was just a bad dream😂
Oh yeah! By har some of the heaviest things I have had to move! Everything in this machine weighs a ton!
Rebuild that thing, some new clutch discs and piston seals, clean up the rust, make sure the steel reaction discs are not coned too much or just replace them, she will run forever
Interesting video.
Manhandling that counterweight and that carriage that came down were dodgy as hell 😁
Still you get a lot done with limited means 👍
If you'd make longer video's about this content where you show more of the process (and the hardship😉), like a 1 hour video or so, I'd for sure watch that too 🙂
$400 for that forklift is a steal, especially as it looks like you can fix the transmission. I think it has sideshift too?
You're not kidding! Everything on this thing weighs so much! Concrete floors would make a massive difference too! The engine lift kept sinking into the asphalt lol
Appreciate the advice! I'm still trying to find that happy place of keeping the videos fast paced but not leaving out too much of the details.
I figured for $400 I couldn't go too wrong! You're correct. The lift has sideshift as well. It'll be extremely useful if I can get this thing running!
The fact that it loaded itself on the trailer, I think you have a winner right there.
It ran, so I was able to move the forks but, I used a winch to pull it onto the trailer
Random life hack - Those oil jugs are shaped that way on purpose. You're suppose to pour them the opposite way. It keeps the oil from glugging ( idk if glugging is a word ). Look up how to pour oil on here, I did it wrong too for 20 years lol.
No way! I've been poring oil wrong for how many years?!?! This is something they should teach you in school! Thanks for the tip!
Super cool, a bit sketchy approach to fix the thing, also very well put on video, thanks for sharing!
Just using the tools I have! Sketchy at times for sure though!
That happened to a number of forklifts at a place I worked, turns out an employee was foot flat and just shifting forward to reverse or vice versa and would jam up the drum in the direction it was traveling and that forklift was down for maintenance because he was angry he didn't get his own forklift 😂 so the company went to hire forklifts and instead of having 6 they only have 4 😂
Sheshhh!! Sounds like he was trying to get out of work or just careless. If I get this thing running I'll be sure not to be like that guy!
@@BustedBeaters0
I'm impressed your willing to take on this job. Great work so far!
Thanks! Hope it pays off!
I'm new to this channel I glad I found something different to watch you don't find many channels rebuilding stuff like this keep up the good work
Appreciate it! Thanks for watching!
bro your 3 2 1 counter had me lean away from the screen ahahahah - the risk of unknown !
🤣 I had no idea either! A part of me was expecting it to put a hole in my ceiling!
omg, the bumper jack being used like a come-along ... like they weren't a ankle/nut buster before... NGL I'm going to remember that, i'd never thought of that and I bet that would come in handy.
Oh yeah they have a bad rep for sure but they can be used in sooo many ways! Extremely useful tools to have!
i've rebuilt the transmission in my ford fusion before. the forward piston seal broke.
its always worth going through he whole thing and replace anything worn. if i just replaced the pistons i wouldn't of seen that my overdrive clutch was burnt.
i hope you were more thorough with the forklift transmission than just the forward & reverse clutch pack.
Oh yeah! Full transmission rebuild! Replaced just about all the wear items
Im so glad your video popped up. I gotta give you alot of credit for attacking this project. Great job . The footage you filmed is excellent. Cant wait too see the outcome. Thanks
Thanks! Means a lot to me! I've been trying to get better at editing with every video!
Awesome job! going to watch parts 2 now ;D
Thanks for watching!
Get friendly with your local Waterjet jobshop. They can cut out those clutch plates. I just did our shop forklift brakes, dealer wanted $1000 for just the brake pads and rotors. I got the friction material from McMaster and made the brake pads and rotors on the waterjet cost me under $100. Should do a video on it but no one watches my videos anyway.
They YT algorithms have screwed it all up
This is really cool! You should make a video on that! I never even considered buying the material and having it watterjetted. Wonder what a shop would charge to do this?
Love your devotion man!! Making me inspired to tear down my AOD transmission to swap the overdrive band
Thanks! You need to get on that! lol
I love your attitude. Fearless. Never pulled an engine, and you pulled it. The logic you apply along with the research and finally the education you provide is top quality. Remember - if another human built it, so can you.
Absolutely! Just a big puzzle at the end of the day!
Man these comments are so helpful for anyone with a forklift lol. Great video too.
Appreciate that! Lots of great comments on here!
Really like the video, great project and look forward to part 2, sub'd
Appreciate that! I'm working on Part 2 now!
You're the real thing.😊
Good job, think you’ve solved the problem
I hope so! We'll see!
Hope everything goes well with your forklift project, but if the gas tank bracket is vertical it came like that from factory, I'll leave it like it was . There's a part's store called Total Source they have tons of parts for a lot of different old brands. I have worked on forklift for 17 years.
Yeah the propane tank is made for a horizontal tank. I'm planning on getting the correct tank for it. I'll be sure to check out total source! Thanks for the help!
i know you probably will not see this but if you are going to be fixing things in or on your driveway get rid of the tarmac/asphalt and replace it with concrete asphalt/tarmac is very very soft especially when it gets warm outside and trolly jacks axel stands and engine hoists will just sink into the asphalt.
Yeah you're right. The forklift is tearing up the driveway. Sinks into the asphalt within a week
Awesome video mate, so much effort put into editing this. Good job
Thanks! This means a lot! I've been putting a lot of work into making the videos better!
Such a relief when you find the issue. I've done my fair share of tear-downs and found nothing obvious. Think you could treat yourself to a press. They're cheap enough and often on Market place. I'll make your work a lot safer - Happy hunting- Paul 😃😃😎😎
I know exactly what you mean. I was really hoping I would find something obvious and I did. I think you're right! I'm going to have to get one.
WOW, a forklift for 400 bucks. even if you don't get it running you learn a lot from it and you can take the metal price.
That was my thought! Didn't hurt to tear it down and see what was wrong!
Enjoyed the video, I'll subscribe and keep a eye out for new content. I've never had a Transmission apart but makes sense it went bad if there was water and i agree with the radiator as the cause.
Thanks for watching!
I never realized those forklifts were so complicated !
There's a lot to them! And I didn't even touch the hydraulic side of things
$400 was a steal for that. People pay more for a lot more broken machines.
You should invest in a gantry crane from harbor freight. Worth its weight in gold for projects like this
I really considered it. Wouldn't fit in my garage though! That's the only reason I don't have it!
@@BustedBeaters you could always take the hoist off and throw a tarp over it outside. I used mine on grass and a dirt floor several times and was glad I had it. The little electric hoists they sell come on and off easy and are really strong with the cable doubled.
Your doing an excellent job 😊
CUDOS to you my friend. You tackled something I myself would never consider.
There were several times I was asking myself why I bought this thing lol
Correct assessment,the water dissolved and the glue holding the friction material causing either no drive or lockup of the assembly’s. Regards Chris Bailey
Looks like a fun project!
I've love your deal on the fork lift. I always wanted one to lift things up quickly table height, for easy working on things that would of been down on ground level. Plus a lot of other uses on a farm.
For sure! I can think of so many uses if I can get it running well again! Trying to get one somewhat on a budget lol
@@BustedBeaters when will the clutch parts come in ?
Don't tell anyone, but the lift is already back together. Part 2 will hopefully be out later today!
That was seriously gutsy.
when you get water in the trans all the clutches comes apart. Just get clutch packs and seals.
oh yes, i am curious!.. **nods**
Your doing a good job especially on your own with the heavy lifting , think you could do with a forklift.👍👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Appreciate it! I hope to put it to good use!
looks like you just need a standard rebuild kit with frictions, steels, and seals.
Sure would have been nice to have a forklift to help with the forklift rebuild. First time subscriber, loved watching.
Appreciate that! I was thinking the entire time about needing a forklift to fix this one lol