I love a REAL review (not a fake review) of how something is built and the materials it’s made off. Most people’s review are just their opinion and them saying how much they like it. I like seeing the internals and how everything fits and works together and build quality. I know sometimes the manufacture and the labels on the box can make things sound fantastic and make the outside look pretty but it is what’s on the inside that counts the most. I really like your reviews on reels that us normal guys can afford. You’re doing a great job thanks!
Now ... this is a real review or what I call a review, a full analysis of an item pointing pros, cons, comparisons with previous gens, etc. This is how you help consumer, ppl or subscribers make a wise decision and the reason most of us watch this type of vids. Thanks ! Great content 👌 👏 👍
Bruh,.thank u for making honest video about reel..u da real MVP bruh..I was comparing daiwa regal vs legalis, then I found this channel..cuz my budget is low..I found daiwa regal is around RM250 in China market at online store...the exceler is way expensive in Malaysia cost almost RM400 then I found this channel...so I decide to buy daiwa regal .....thank uu..got a subscribe
The Daiwa Legalis LT 3000 was my first Daiwa after 20 years on Shimano reels. I'm glad I changed because with the Shimano's they started out great, but gradually they ware out. I fish 5 days a week and my get gets used a lot, so I notice when things start to wear. The average casual fisher probably would not notice. So far, the Lagalis has performed like a $300 reel. It seems even smoother and like a jewel the more of a beating it gets.
Great review! It makes me feel a lot better about being “cheap” and buying two of the legalis 2500D reels on clearance for < $45 each (free shipping) just before the 2021 model was released!
I'm always recommending your channel to people who ask me a bunch of questions about rods and reels. Also to people who think they know what they are talking about!! Lol
I have been a shimano type of guy, but last week I bought a Fuego 3000 and a legalis 3000. Your video came just in time forme tu understand the differences. I am new to your Chanel but I am love in it. Great job ♥️🎣
I did not know that trick for stopping the free play on a hex shaft reel. That’s a lot of the reason I didn’t get a Regal LT. I went with an Exceler LT and a Fuego LT for the direct drive handles they have that just thread into the drive gears.
I fish saltwater only. Love the Exceler. For me that IS my go to budget reel - also own the current BG, Tatula and Exist. Great for finesse type fishing but for larger inshore and surf fishing I like the Shimano stuff (Stradic and up) for its line management and long cast enhancements.
So I had to open up both my 2017 Legalis for cleaning yesterday. One is a few years old, the other I got about a year and a half ago. I noticed on the newest one that the main gear looked different. It has these white dots on it. When I looked at the number on the bottom of the rotor the newer one has a V2 at the end of the numbers. Because of the slightly different looking main gear, and the V2 at the end of the numbers I'm wondering if Daiwa made two versions of the 2017 Legalis
Another potential reason not to get the Revros is that it weighs more. Lifting the Legalis and Regal spools compared to the same sized Revros spool is very noticeable - at least in 2000 size.
@@ifishcatfish I don't have a Revros reel to compare, but according to the Daiwa specs on their site, the Revros is heavier. I do, however, have Revros spools that I use as spares for my same-sized Legalis and Regal reels, and the Revros spools are thicker and heavier.
I dont know what daiwa says, but Revros LT and Legalis LT is the same reel. You can take that to the bank. There is no difference in anything, only one bearing missing.
I've been using a 2500 legalis as my finesse bass reel. 1/8oz jigs and 6 pound test. I haven't really noticed the flex issue that you mentioned, but I suppose this new model would still be an improvement, especially with some larger equipment.
@@TheFishingNomad try to use the 4000 legalis in the saltwater targeting smaller GT you'll understand the issue of flexing. Even catching tarpon in Florida the flex is noticeably
Awesome and straight truth only. I like you have sharp opinions! Not like other to American channels who are afraid of offending anybody and there it is just polished stuff. Do continue please
for what? Bluegill? Crappie? Jig? Float? there is so many variables. I have a whole playlist with budget ultralight rods, depending on how u fish. Shakespeare Mirco Light and Daiwa Presso are up there
Rob b. Give him information on your fishing targets and favorite lures , your budget, and your transportation requirements, and he will make a great recommendation. I have seen many Thank you's for his recommendations.
Thanks for the response, I was thinking more crappie and the occasional white bass ,in the 6’6ft Length, UL-light action, $50-150, 2 piece. Can’t remember the last time I saw the daiwa presso rod on stock. I used to use last king calamus rods until I flipped my kayak, now they no longer sell the model.
Adding to the rod question. Looking to get Legalis or Regal for my 10 and 14 year old kids. Shore fishing from lake (occasional trip on pap’s boat) for trout, bluegill, and small bass. Need a good all-arounder that works for them. Just discovered your channel and now I am down the rabbit hole!
There is a large fishing channel called salt strong. These guys used to recommend and sell the fuego and salt water fishing is their thing. Now that it's harder to get the fuego they are recommending legalis lt even in the salt. What are your thoughts on this?
No, legalis will seize from salt soon, unless you put a lot of effort to keep it clean. Best value for salt is the new ultegra, that I reviewed. Nasci and Fuego are also good, but the new Ultegra is well worth the money if u fish salt
Great again. If the reel is the same the SLP Works Black C2000s extra spool will make it look almost all black and perhaps make the reel color a little more acceptable.
@@ifishcatfish Well I must admit I don't know how to set up a link but ALL PRO, ALL STAR, West Fishing store on aliexpress have them. Would you want me to send you one as a gift? I bought 4 of them,
Greetings from Germany and thanks for this and many other Videos you made, it helped me to make some decisons, but I have a question. There is another big and traditionally japanese reel manufacturer RYOBI, do you have any experience with this reels, my local dealer means it is good as Daiwa or Shimano.
All ryobi reels in last 10 years seem to be made in China. Their quality is typical chinese quality. They used to be top of the line reels, together with DAM. Now both DAM and Ryobi just resell reels from China, I think. Maybe they design them and the chinese make them... i don't know. but their reels are not what they used to be. I could be wrong though, i am not 100% sure, but everything i have seen recently is from china. Send me link to particular product if u think it is made in japan. I am curious myself.
Do you have a full teardown video. I had my reel outside went inside for a couple of hours when i came out it was on thr floor. Now theres a weird sound like something is lose.
Omg I can hear the sickness in your voice! Can you breath? Also, I love that trick to fix free play, do you have a trick for the Shimano Vanford haha? And I totally agree about the blue, terrible color to try and match with!
Adding extra washer on the main gear really helped remove free play in the gears, but also added some resistance, Nd i ended up opening and removing it. I cant stand resistance in my vanford
they are not washers, but shims. You can put them under the spool, if you want your spool to sit higher. I just made a video about this a month ago, you should watch it.
I was talking for 5 minutes that all reels in the Legalis LT family are same. Every part. If I make a video about Exceller i would have to repeat everything i said in this video. If you missed it in the video - Exceller is Legalis with a screw-in handle instead of hex shaft handle
I rushed out and got a legalis lt on your recommendation. When tightening the handle and the cap it seems to have a gap and neither the handle or the cap is sitting flush against the body. Is this normal or am I making an error? 9:55 I can see the gaps on yours too.
all reels have gap there, even the ones that screw in. Even $400 reels. Also, if you overtighten the knob, in some reels the gears will start feeling rough. Do not overtighten that knob. It is plastic anyway and not supposed to be tightened too much
@@ifishcatfish it says Zion V on frame and rotor.. colors are black, some king of "brownich" and light gold...No more gold spool... if you want to know more... go on Amazon.fr and do a "Legalis 2020 LT" research...
2500 is too small for pack bait. Also you should never under any circumstances use braid for carp fishing. Only mono. 0.30 to 0.35mm diameter. I don't care what pound it says on the spool, but this is the optimal diameter for both strength and casting distance. But i would get a 4000 size reel for carp fishing. Otherwise you are just torturing the drive train. Especially if you are unexperienced and try to pull the fish with the reel
The 2021 CS LT Legalis on Ali does not have blue spool but has a much better spool almost completely black and looks better than it ever did. The real chrome piece at the rear of the body is the only question about its appearance.
Could you please tell me how many yds. of 6# monofilament each spool can hold. I_ actually fish with 4# but this will give me an idea of their spool size. Thankyou, & I really like watching your videos too when I'm shopping for another reel. Heard there's a New Daiwa Reel coming out around December according to a local fishing supply. If there is one then I'll check out your video when it comes out. Aloha🌴🎣🏄♂️
is this something new? Daiwa made some reels for Bass Pro 5 years ago, before the Daiwa LT line came out. Bass pro is still selling them, and they are good reels, if the weight doesn't bother you. But the new LT reels are just as good and lighter.
One change with the new model is that the 2500 now has the larger handle of the 3000, where I believe the old version's 2500 shared the more compact handle shape of the 1000 and 2000 models. This might be a positive for some people. However, I found the larger handle to be too bulky for my style of fishing.
What do u mean about the ball bearing in exceller model ? Is exceller better than legalis ? Umentioned something about the ballbearing in handle ? I dnt understand which one is better 😔😔
this video compares 2021 vs 2017 legalis, no comparison with Exceller. There is already a new Legalis, and i have a comparison of the 2023 vs the previous, if u want to see that.
Great video, Does the place of manufacture affect the quality of this reel? Vietnam China, Or Japan.. I love how you compare that, in my county always promote revros Lt, but i can understand from you legalis family much better for Ultraligh. Thanks for sharing that..
@@ifishcatfish @i_fish i am agree with you,with mediocre materials it's not worth it with the price. great explanation about legalis, so does the place legalis are manufakture, made in Japan or china or Vietnam maybe affect the quality of this reel? Or its doesn't metter?
Forgive me if I’ve asked you this already, but have you tried any of the Piscifun reels? I have 2 of their bait cast reels (a cheap one and what was their top of the line,still available on Ali Express) and 2 of their Carbon X spinning reels. I heard a rumor the Carbon X is made on the same frame as a Daiwa Tatula, but I don’t own one or know anyone who does to compare them. I love my 1000 size Carbon X and since I’ve purchased mine they came out with a 500 size also.
i have tried some but about 3 years ago. They all felt like the typical chinese stuff. Not a bad value, if this is your price range, but nothing they have compares to a daiwa legalis. They make some baitcasters too now, and those are actually more competitive, if you are looking for baitcasters. But at the end, i think daiwa and shimano offer not just better quality, but even better value, if you consider everything, including resale value.
Ya i recently bought the carbon x 1000 size. Compared to my daiwa, okuma and shimano reels it is garbage. Rough, grindy and not smooth drag at all. Compared to my Pfleuger president reels they are just bad. I used mine for about 3 trips and returned it to piscifun. If you think they are smooth, don't buy a better reel and stick with it and stop going down the rabbit hole with better reels. Be happy with it and don't listen to any other reviews of higher end reels. If it works for you, keep with it. I have several higher end reels and it does not fit up to my standards. When i was catching a 4-6oz bluegill it was embarrasingly rough.
if im not mistaken,there is one more new model of legalis..CS model 2021...what is the difference between cs model compare with the blue one?what is the CS stand for?
there is no other models in united states. If you are shopping in Aliexpress you are buying the chinese version. I have not seen those and dont know the difference.
I really like the change to the blue. Working in a fishing store, I got so tired of black/gold and gray/gold combos. It just seems so washed out and overdone.
@@ifishcatfish I just bought the UL combo. Quite well balanced. Haven't found any reviews of the combo, but it's just what I was looking for. Under $100. Smooth casting 1/8 oz Rapala lures about 25 yards or so.
I’m actually putting this reel in the 2500xh size on my st. croix tournament versatile rod. So I liked the blue…lol, I like your reviews and value your opinion. Subbed and liked
To note revros frame is sturdier than legalis. I have revros and exceler revros no flex exceler flexes really bad at 3000 size when reeling in 21-25g cast master
I agree. The revros LT frame is completely graphite and much thicker. Hence is weight much more too. But there is very little stem flex to worry about. I had models 1000, 2000 and 3000. They were smooth but heavy.
I have two of each of these 1000 reels: 2021 Legalis, Tatula, Bullistic, Nasci, CI4, Vanford. I noticed that the Legalis creates more line twists from just normal reeling in line than the others. I am using 2lb test line on all my reels. Do you notice that?
i dont agree with the premise that the reel is creating the line twist. The reel cannot twist line under normal operation. Look very closely how the line is going through the line roller. Even if the bearing or bushing is stuck, it will rub the line, but NOT twist it. Twist is created when u have lures that spin in the water, or when you turn the handle at the same time the drag is paying line. So it is either caused by the lure, or by the operator. Reels cannot create line twist
Nice review, but are the looks and sounds really so importnat? I'd rather hear more details about the geras or the drag system. And those minimal weight differences?! Tell the people rathter, that if 15 g matters, than they should better not wear a watch on their hand. But still a great review! Thanks!
different things are of different importance for everyone. I don't disagree with your arguments but you can't make everyone happy so i just talk about what i am partial to
I'm curious about the line roller are these two models the same. Want to know for a bearing replacement I ordered the one for the older model but it's going on the 2021.
Like is said, everything else is the same, including line rollers. And the bushing in the line roller is not easy to replace. U have to remove too many parts to replace it and then water will be going in all the time and your bearing will seize.
@@ifishcatfish thanks, I'm hoping I'm somewhat covered since I got a hybrid bearing I would have gone with a full ceramic but the last one I got made a lot of racket.
@@ifishcatfish I guess I'll just throw it in the trash when I get it then since you say there's no hope. Do you toss the bearings that already come in reels you buy since absolute failure is guaranteed?
i think i'll love my new 2500D-XH if i can get a new rotor for this legalis. it arrived new with a split rotor. could have returned it, but due to popularity, did not think i'd get a replacement for awhile. love these vids--liked and subscribed.
So, is the BG (not MQ version) worth buying in 2021 and compared to the Legalis family? I can get it for roughly the same price as a Legalis. Mostly going to be fishing around shoreline salt water.
its still a great reel. I usually recommend it for catfish and carp. It is kind of heavy for ultralight fishing, but if you fish for bigger fish , then definitely. BG is not that well protected from salt.. you have to keep it clean
@@ifishcatfish Thanks. Race is down to a BG or a Legalis or an Exceler. Guess I'll be taking a few more trips down to the tackle shops. This will be my first ever purchase of fishing tackle. Had my mind blown the first time I went into a tackle shop.
Hey. I ordered a 2021 legalis 2500 (european model) and returned it for having too much freeplay in the handle. I though it was just that unit. Ordered a 2021 legalis 2000, same problem. Tried your trick with 6pound line, did nothing. I think the freeplay is in gears. Do you have solution on that or should i return this also, really love the black/gold color.. I have regal lt 3000 on my zander rod and it has zero freeplay on the handle. I have tried the new models, fuego, exceler and all of them have huge amount of freeplay in the handle, i dont know whats wrong with the new models.. Thinking about returning this 2021 legalis 2000 also and buying regal lt 1000-2000 size for perch because it has zero freeplay but im not fan of the colour. Thanks for great reviews
i only bought the 1000 size, and after the trick with the line 80% of free play is gone. Still some left, but i would say for 60$ reel its more than acceptable. Have not played with the bigger models yet, but did not expect them to have so much free play. Maybe try with 10 lb mono, if you feel there is still free play. The gears cannot have much back and forth free play. They have in and out free play, which can be adjusted with an extra washer on the main gear.
@@ifishcatfish Tried with 10lb line and still pretty much the same, there is freeplay in the handle knob also and you can feel it when reeling, maybe im just too picky with my fishing gear. Let me know if you try the new 2000+ lt family in tackle shop or something. New models are also much louder when spinning the reel, maybe its because there is not much grease in the gears like you said in the video. Cheers!
if you read my message again, the line will fix only back and forth free play. In and out (axial) free play can be fixed with a shim on the main gear. But these are the only two kinds of free play that you can fix. you cannot fix radial free play, but i have never noticed much radial free play in these reels. Not in new ones anyway. As for louder... grease made my reel feel softer and nicer.. but still .. it was never loud when brand new.. Maybe you do have a bad apple. It is not rare to have poor quality in these reels, especially the ones you buy on ebay, or through discount retailers. Somehow those reels always have more noise than the ones where u pay full retail from legit store.
@@ifishcatfish Ok. Ordered a another 1000 size to test it if my unit is bad. I think the freeplay in the handle knob itself is more annoying because you can feel it clunking when reeling, handle freeplay you dont notice that much when reeling. btw have you seen the new shimano nasci fc with silentdrive, 5+1BB and screw in handle, look pretty good also, almost like stradic fl
Great video very detailed, cool info about the handle. Very pleased that I picked up 2 of the old legalis 1000d and 6,6 presso rods from watching your videos. Funny comment about blue to sabotage the reel
there is no difference between THIS daiwa and Sedona. If you buy daiwa over $200, yes, hard to even open. But this one is virtually identical to the Sedona, but it has a couple important bearings that the Sedona doesn't have. The bearing that supports the pinion gear is present here. In the sedona the pinion gear is shoved in the frame, no bearing. Not nice. Also here you have a bearing in the line roller. Reduces resistance, nice. Sedona line roller runs on a bushing. Buying Sedona over this is a significant mistake, as the Sedona is more expensive, but mechanically inferior.
Thanks for this video which helped me to decide buying new reels (been a long time late 80’s) the older ones I was used to and still use occasionally because all the newer models were way too pricey for me. I did get lucky at Pawn shops Daiwa BG, Fuego, Penn Persuit iii each at or under $40 used in the 2500 sizes not fished too hard. Now the Laguna LT 3000-C ($35 new) you didn’t mention but I like so a bid on a clean, used (braid) spooled Legalis LT 2500D (2017) for $38 I’m hoping is a steal? Especially if they really haven’t changed in the newer models, I’ll enjoy my newer “up-cycled” reels the fish really don’t know or care how much I spend! lol 😂 Florida Tampa Bay Gulf Coast inshore fishing. We need more info on affordable saltwater reels that are worth buying.
@@ifishcatfish Any knowledge on the Shimano NEXAVE? 2500HG beautiful condition, spooled with braided line $20 + (low) shipping. I'll have to open it up & test it out to really know but I think that's a good deal (Sienna 2500HG I was eyeballing) I never owned Shimano gear it was too pricey for me for moderate fishing. Thanks!
So comparing about the frame between new Legalis vs Shimano Sahara, which one is more durable in saltwater? I want to buy one of these two in 3000 size.
Another good review. I haven't seen the new Regal LT yet. Hopefully it'll be released soon. I'm waiting on the new Exceler LT to come to the US. It looks like a nice reel. I did purchased several piscifun carbon x and a kastking zephyr to try out. I told myself, would never buy off brands. But they intrigued me and were fairly inexpensive, so what the heck. So far I like them okay.
There was a Regal LT released last year (i have review on it), so i dont expect another release in the next 2 years... I buy junk out of curiosity too. The truth is that even chinese reels today are better than top brands 20 years ago and definitely can be fished without problem, even if they are not as good as daiwa and shimano
Great Video worth the wait. I'll miss the Presso Copper colour scheme. That is remanucent to the Hardy Altex 1935ish the first automatic bail on a spinning reel. Mine still works but lacks sophistication of today's spinning reels. Never the less it looks like a work of art. I noticed a few mint ones for sale from Japan and wonder if Daiwa used them for styling cues in the the Presso and 2017 Legalis. The Hardy cost a months pay so makes the Lt line up a great value. I also have a older Daiwa El 1655H which has a a super wide reel sten and no flex back in 1980's so the engineer's knew about the flex way back then. Zinc gears aren't a bad thing if you're a modern Daiwa 2000 onward. I could live with the Blue accent as it matches my boat. Anyways I agree pick your colour not your bearing count. Tight Lines to ya.
I wonder if the new color of the legalis is to align its looks with the older saltiga model.... have a look at the old saltiga, and let me know if you see the similarities. That being said, I thought the old saltiga was on the unattractive side.
maybe they look similar but i dont think the designers would consider something like that. I think they actually sell a Legalis rod in Europe, and they try to match it with that
hi.. new sub here just watch your review on the leagalis and i love it. oh there is a newer version of the legalis cs lt.. the black and gold accent hope you check it..
I’ve been watching this guy a while and I’m not gona lie whatever he recommends I’ve bought if I was in the market for one,he’s reviews are top notch and honest awesome videos and funny at times..one of my favorite RUclipsrs 👏👏
I have the Legalis LT 2500 -17 and the Fuego LT 1000 -21, but both don't put on the line beautifully. I don't know why these reels are praised by this n00b. The reels should be avoided.
i dont know why i'm helping a turd with such attitude, but u need to learn about shimming, and then u probably use too thick line that doesn't fit in the spool. This reel lays line perfectly - look all my videos
I believe the same model in Europe looks like this instead and they are all called 20 models instead of 21 in US for some reason. www.daiwa.com/scandinavia/contents/reels/20_legalis_lt/index.html
I love a REAL review (not a fake review) of how something is built and the materials it’s made off. Most people’s review are just their opinion and them saying how much they like it. I like seeing the internals and how everything fits and works together and build quality. I know sometimes the manufacture and the labels on the box can make things sound fantastic and make the outside look pretty but it is what’s on the inside that counts the most. I really like your reviews on reels that us normal guys can afford. You’re doing a great job thanks!
thanks for not being lazy and dropping a line. Its free but not enough people do it ..
I 100% agree with everything you said. Viktor is amazing, keeping it real for sure
Great! Review is releasing quicker than expected, nice job and thank you
Can't wait to see the comparison!!
Thanks for the update and tear down view. Hopefully family is feeling better!
kids are better now, but my wife and i still down. Thanks for checking D
Now ... this is a real review or what I call a review, a full analysis of an item pointing pros, cons, comparisons with previous gens, etc. This is how you help consumer, ppl or subscribers make a wise decision and the reason most of us watch this type of vids. Thanks ! Great content 👌 👏 👍
thanks for dropping a line buddy. It makes a difference.
Bruh,.thank u for making honest video about reel..u da real MVP bruh..I was comparing daiwa regal vs legalis, then I found this channel..cuz my budget is low..I found daiwa regal is around RM250 in China market at online store...the exceler is way expensive in Malaysia cost almost RM400 then I found this channel...so I decide to buy daiwa regal .....thank uu..got a subscribe
Glad I could help
The Daiwa Legalis LT 3000 was my first Daiwa after 20 years on Shimano reels. I'm glad I changed because with the Shimano's they started out great, but gradually they ware out. I fish 5 days a week and my get gets used a lot, so I notice when things start to wear. The average casual fisher probably would not notice. So far, the Lagalis has performed like a $300 reel. It seems even smoother and like a jewel the more of a beating it gets.
the new shimano sahara is just as good if not better. watch my review
I really like my old regal with the air bail...
I always enjoy your reviews and insights on rods and reels.
Great review! It makes me feel a lot better about being “cheap” and buying two of the legalis 2500D reels on clearance for < $45 each (free shipping) just before the 2021 model was released!
i was looking for 1000D on clearance, but there were none left. Only 2500
Super cheap. Here they ask 65 euro still.
Hello, great video. I’m looking for correct placement of the bail trip lever spring on a legalis
2021 European legalis has a classy black and gold spool.
just checked it out. Looks like the 2017 US Legalis, but i see the new frame there.. Definitely better looking..
I'm always recommending your channel to people who ask me a bunch of questions about rods and reels. Also to people who think they know what they are talking about!! Lol
i appreciate that Mike
I've been waiting for this video. Thanks for making it! It's very helpful!
I have been a shimano type of guy, but last week I bought a Fuego 3000 and a legalis 3000. Your video came just in time forme tu understand the differences. I am new to your Chanel but I am love in it. Great job ♥️🎣
So, meet the new boss -- same as the old boss. Nice review as always, keep up the good work. Wishing you and our family a speedy recovery.
man, i'm down HARD today, even my eyes hurt. Glad i finished the video yesterday, otherwise it would have to wait yet another week
Just got the new blue with a Bass Pro panfish elite and they match perfectly. Thanks for the review.
That rod has nice components at good price. I've tested it. Recovery could be a bit faster, but a good value, and good match for this reel for sure
Interesting breakdown 👍
Hi Alex
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I did not know that trick for stopping the free play on a hex shaft reel. That’s a lot of the reason I didn’t get a Regal LT. I went with an Exceler LT and a Fuego LT for the direct drive handles they have that just thread into the drive gears.
doesn't matter at all, once u put some mono in there. Honesty even without the mono its hard to tell when u r on the water
I fish saltwater only. Love the Exceler. For me that IS my go to budget reel - also own the current BG, Tatula and Exist. Great for finesse type fishing but for larger inshore and surf fishing I like the Shimano stuff (Stradic and up) for its line management and long cast enhancements.
So I had to open up both my 2017 Legalis for cleaning yesterday. One is a few years old, the other I got about a year and a half ago. I noticed on the newest one that the main gear looked different. It has these white dots on it. When I looked at the number on the bottom of the rotor the newer one has a V2 at the end of the numbers. Because of the slightly different looking main gear, and the V2 at the end of the numbers I'm wondering if Daiwa made two versions of the 2017 Legalis
You have a comparison from the 21 model and the 23 model jdm model
there is no other model, is there. I have not seen 2023 Legalis in USA. Have yhou?
@ifishcatfish I thought the jdm legalis is the 23 model. The one with the gold arm thats one solid piece.
Another potential reason not to get the Revros is that it weighs more. Lifting the Legalis and Regal spools compared to the same sized Revros spool is very noticeable - at least in 2000 size.
Revros LT weighs the same as Legalis LT, as it IS Legalis LT, without one bearing. You may be talking about the old Revros (NON LT)
@@ifishcatfish I don't have a Revros reel to compare, but according to the Daiwa specs on their site, the Revros is heavier. I do, however, have Revros spools that I use as spares for my same-sized Legalis and Regal reels, and the Revros spools are thicker and heavier.
I dont know what daiwa says, but Revros LT and Legalis LT is the same reel. You can take that to the bank. There is no difference in anything, only one bearing missing.
I've been using a 2500 legalis as my finesse bass reel. 1/8oz jigs and 6 pound test. I haven't really noticed the flex issue that you mentioned, but I suppose this new model would still be an improvement, especially with some larger equipment.
if u fish finesse, with light drag, it wont be a problem. But put pressure with your hand and you will see it
No wonder you dont experience flexing on this reel, come on youre a bass fisherman. Not disrespectful to you
@@ravenger2711 what?
@@TheFishingNomad try to use the 4000 legalis in the saltwater targeting smaller GT you'll understand the issue of flexing. Even catching tarpon in Florida the flex is noticeably
@@ravenger2711 Not sure why'd you ever use this in saltwater for that, but okay.
Awesome and straight truth only. I like you have sharp opinions! Not like other to American channels who are afraid of offending anybody and there it is just polished stuff. Do continue please
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Hell yeah!! love your reel/rod reviews and crappie videos
I appreciate that!
Excellent video , can you please recommend a ultralight rod to pair with the Legalis 2000?
for what? Bluegill? Crappie? Jig? Float? there is so many variables. I have a whole playlist with budget ultralight rods, depending on how u fish. Shakespeare Mirco Light and Daiwa Presso are up there
Rob b. Give him information on your fishing targets and favorite lures , your budget, and your transportation requirements, and he will make a great recommendation. I have seen many Thank you's for his recommendations.
Thanks for the response, I was thinking more crappie and the occasional white bass ,in the 6’6ft Length, UL-light action, $50-150, 2 piece. Can’t remember the last time I saw the daiwa presso rod on stock. I used to use last king calamus rods until I flipped my kayak, now they no longer sell the model.
@@jimscott4552 thanks , I just responded.
Adding to the rod question. Looking to get Legalis or Regal for my 10 and 14 year old kids. Shore fishing from lake (occasional trip on pap’s boat) for trout, bluegill, and small bass. Need a good all-arounder that works for them. Just discovered your channel and now I am down the rabbit hole!
There is a large fishing channel called salt strong.
These guys used to recommend and sell the fuego and salt water fishing is their thing.
Now that it's harder to get the fuego they are recommending legalis lt even in the salt.
What are your thoughts on this?
No, legalis will seize from salt soon, unless you put a lot of effort to keep it clean. Best value for salt is the new ultegra, that I reviewed. Nasci and Fuego are also good, but the new Ultegra is well worth the money if u fish salt
@@ifishcatfish thanks for all the tips.
It's a great channel you have here.
Great again. If the reel is the same the SLP Works Black C2000s extra spool will make it look almost all black and perhaps make the reel color a little more acceptable.
these spools usually cost a lot more than the reel
@@ifishcatfish They cost about $19 plus tax. What are uoi talking about.
oh, really? Link? Everything SLP works i've seen has been super expensive.
@@ifishcatfish Well I must admit I don't know how to set up a link but ALL PRO, ALL STAR, West Fishing store on aliexpress have them. Would you want me to send you one as a gift? I bought 4 of them,
West door fishing tackle store has them for $18.99.
Greetings from Germany and thanks for this and many other Videos you made, it helped me to make some decisons, but I have a question. There is another big and traditionally japanese reel manufacturer RYOBI, do you have any experience with this reels, my local dealer means it is good as Daiwa or Shimano.
All ryobi reels in last 10 years seem to be made in China. Their quality is typical chinese quality. They used to be top of the line reels, together with DAM. Now both DAM and Ryobi just resell reels from China, I think. Maybe they design them and the chinese make them... i don't know. but their reels are not what they used to be. I could be wrong though, i am not 100% sure, but everything i have seen recently is from china. Send me link to particular product if u think it is made in japan. I am curious myself.
Hey that blue spool is nearly the exact blue on my rod :p
Do you have a full teardown video. I had my reel outside went inside for a couple of hours when i came out it was on thr floor. Now theres a weird sound like something is lose.
No, i don't, but this reel has 5 parts. It is the same as all reels under $100, they all have the same design
Omg I can hear the sickness in your voice! Can you breath? Also, I love that trick to fix free play, do you have a trick for the Shimano Vanford haha? And I totally agree about the blue, terrible color to try and match with!
Adding extra washer on the main gear really helped remove free play in the gears, but also added some resistance, Nd i ended up opening and removing it. I cant stand resistance in my vanford
@@ifishcatfish That helped remove free play in the handle? I just hate the fact it wiggles a little and I can hear it when I reel.
I have a bps panfish elite rod planning on grabbing this in a 1000 size. Should be a hell of a good looking combo 😉
@@rommel2695 i know that rod. Has great components but the tip is a little slow somehow. But would be a great pair for this new legalis
My 2000 LT came with a 3-pack of plastic washers. What are these for? Ron
they are not washers, but shims. You can put them under the spool, if you want your spool to sit higher. I just made a video about this a month ago, you should watch it.
Look at the frame more carefully - in 2021 it is more solid at all. Look at distances between mechanism and the frame.
Great. I was planning to buy the 4000 series. Please compare the new n old version of Exceler too
I was talking for 5 minutes that all reels in the Legalis LT family are same. Every part. If I make a video about Exceller i would have to repeat everything i said in this video. If you missed it in the video - Exceller is Legalis with a screw-in handle instead of hex shaft handle
I rushed out and got a legalis lt on your recommendation.
When tightening the handle and the cap it seems to have a gap and neither the handle or the cap is sitting flush against the body.
Is this normal or am I making an error?
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I can see the gaps on yours too.
all reels have gap there, even the ones that screw in. Even $400 reels. Also, if you overtighten the knob, in some reels the gears will start feeling rough. Do not overtighten that knob. It is plastic anyway and not supposed to be tightened too much
Hello I ran into a 2020 Legalis LT version (european market) that is not blue but standard colors... any idea about this version?
its the same reel, but not sure which frame its using - plastic or Zaion V. Let me know if you can see that on the box.
@@ifishcatfish it says Zion V on frame and rotor.. colors are black, some king of "brownich" and light gold...No more gold spool... if you want to know more... go on Amazon.fr and do a "Legalis 2020 LT" research...
then it is the same real that i am reviewing in a few minutes
@@ifishcatfish yes Victor, but with a blue/silver color scheme instead of "brownish"/gold, BTW the 2500 knob is the large one on my 2020 Legalis!!!
Ooooh, I see that actually, it looks kinda nice and matches my rod really well, I wish I saw this earlier before I bought a Vanford haha.
At the end of the video. Неплохо поймал, рыба вышла на глиссер 😄 Лучший reviewer on RUclips, пересматриваю ролики several times.
haha, finally somebody saw that..
I received a Regal 2500 per your recommendation and it's super smooth. What type of braided line would you recommend to cast pack bait for distance?
2500 is too small for pack bait. Also you should never under any circumstances use braid for carp fishing. Only mono. 0.30 to 0.35mm diameter. I don't care what pound it says on the spool, but this is the optimal diameter for both strength and casting distance. But i would get a 4000 size reel for carp fishing. Otherwise you are just torturing the drive train. Especially if you are unexperienced and try to pull the fish with the reel
Great review thanks. Same smoothness as the old?
yes. No change to gears
Could u make a video on the Abu garcia zenon spinning reel
im not a fan of Abu reels
The 2021 CS LT Legalis on Ali does not have blue spool but has a much better spool almost completely black and looks better than it ever did. The real chrome piece at the rear of the body is the only question about its appearance.
Could you please tell me how many yds. of 6# monofilament each spool can hold.
I_ actually fish with 4# but this will give me an idea of their spool size.
Thankyou, & I really like watching your videos too when I'm shopping for another reel.
Heard there's a New Daiwa Reel coming out around December according to a local fishing supply.
If there is one then I'll check out your video when it comes out.
Aloha🌴🎣🏄♂️
all new reels came out already. The only new one is Revelry, but that is offered only in Australia. Unless u want to buy from there...
Have you tried the Bobbie Morrison line of reels from bass pro made by diawa
is this something new? Daiwa made some reels for Bass Pro 5 years ago, before the Daiwa LT line came out. Bass pro is still selling them, and they are good reels, if the weight doesn't bother you. But the new LT reels are just as good and lighter.
One change with the new model is that the 2500 now has the larger handle of the 3000, where I believe the old version's 2500 shared the more compact handle shape of the 1000 and 2000 models.
This might be a positive for some people. However, I found the larger handle to be too bulky for my style of fishing.
good info. I have this problem with a 2500 stella that i am testing and not liking the big knob at all
What do u mean about the ball bearing in exceller model ? Is exceller better than legalis ?
Umentioned something about the ballbearing in handle ? I dnt understand which one is better 😔😔
this video compares 2021 vs 2017 legalis, no comparison with Exceller. There is already a new Legalis, and i have a comparison of the 2023 vs the previous, if u want to see that.
Thank you for your tips and insight, very helpful.
do spools for Legalis 20 interchange with 17 Models? Any other compatible models for 17 series?
Yes they are. But will look ugly
Great video, Does the place of manufacture affect the quality of this reel? Vietnam China, Or Japan.. I love how you compare that, in my county always promote revros Lt, but i can understand from you legalis family much better for Ultraligh. Thanks for sharing that..
revros should have never been created
@@ifishcatfish @i_fish i am agree with you,with mediocre materials it's not worth it with the price. great explanation about legalis, so does the place legalis are manufakture, made in Japan or china or Vietnam maybe affect the quality of this reel? Or its doesn't metter?
Have you ever tried the Certate 2500 size?
no, most of my reels are 1000/2000 size.. Also I don't even buy aluminum frame reels.. although i do have some old ones..
@@ifishcatfish have you taken a look at the new Airity that's coming out?
@@CannonCountry can't take a look , only a video has been released, no reel yet
Forgive me if I’ve asked you this already, but have you tried any of the Piscifun reels? I have 2 of their bait cast reels (a cheap one and what was their top of the line,still available on Ali Express) and 2 of their Carbon X spinning reels. I heard a rumor the Carbon X is made on the same frame as a Daiwa Tatula, but I don’t own one or know anyone who does to compare them. I love my 1000 size Carbon X and since I’ve purchased mine they came out with a 500 size also.
i have tried some but about 3 years ago. They all felt like the typical chinese stuff. Not a bad value, if this is your price range, but nothing they have compares to a daiwa legalis. They make some baitcasters too now, and those are actually more competitive, if you are looking for baitcasters.
But at the end, i think daiwa and shimano offer not just better quality, but even better value, if you consider everything, including resale value.
Ya i recently bought the carbon x 1000 size. Compared to my daiwa, okuma and shimano reels it is garbage. Rough, grindy and not smooth drag at all. Compared to my Pfleuger president reels they are just bad. I used mine for about 3 trips and returned it to piscifun. If you think they are smooth, don't buy a better reel and stick with it and stop going down the rabbit hole with better reels. Be happy with it and don't listen to any other reviews of higher end reels. If it works for you, keep with it. I have several higher end reels and it does not fit up to my standards. When i was catching a 4-6oz bluegill it was embarrasingly rough.
if im not mistaken,there is one more new model of legalis..CS model 2021...what is the difference between cs model compare with the blue one?what is the CS stand for?
there is no other models in united states. If you are shopping in Aliexpress you are buying the chinese version. I have not seen those and dont know the difference.
CS model 2021 chinese version is black and golden color, just like 2017 version
I really like the change to the blue. Working in a fishing store, I got so tired of black/gold and gray/gold combos. It just seems so washed out and overdone.
yeah but what rod do u find for this reel now?
@@ifishcatfish Cabela's Panfish Elite
@@ifishcatfish I just bought the UL combo. Quite well balanced. Haven't found any reviews of the combo, but it's just what I was looking for. Under $100. Smooth casting 1/8 oz Rapala lures about 25 yards or so.
@@d.friessoundandvideo2943 if u like it, u succeeded. The goal if tackle is to make u happy. At the end of the day most rods catch fish just the same
I’m actually putting this reel in the 2500xh size on my st. croix tournament versatile rod. So I liked the blue…lol, I like your reviews and value your opinion. Subbed and liked
To note revros frame is sturdier than legalis. I have revros and exceler revros no flex exceler flexes really bad at 3000 size when reeling in 21-25g cast master
Are u talking about revros lt? Or the old reveos that is much heavier?
I agree. The revros LT frame is completely graphite and much thicker. Hence is weight much more too. But there is very little stem flex to worry about. I had models 1000, 2000 and 3000. They were smooth but heavy.
Looks like Daiwa has also updated the Exceler over seas to the Zaion V. I hope it come to the US market soon. 20EXLT1000 20EXLT2000
yeah, they did, for europe. I dont know if they already have the reel why don't they just send it here.
Question sir, are these legalis a JDM model?
The 2023 i bought from Japan. The other one from US
@@ifishcatfish btw , do you think jdm Daiwa is worth buying if I had to add 30$ more than non jdm?
@@miaz8885 order low gear ratio from Japan, with shallow spool, and its worth it
I have two of each of these 1000 reels: 2021 Legalis, Tatula, Bullistic, Nasci, CI4, Vanford. I noticed that the Legalis creates more line twists from just normal reeling in line than the others. I am using 2lb test line on all my reels. Do you notice that?
i dont agree with the premise that the reel is creating the line twist. The reel cannot twist line under normal operation. Look very closely how the line is going through the line roller. Even if the bearing or bushing is stuck, it will rub the line, but NOT twist it. Twist is created when u have lures that spin in the water, or when you turn the handle at the same time the drag is paying line. So it is either caused by the lure, or by the operator. Reels cannot create line twist
The Spring guide still Old School Shape??
what spring guide? The spring for the bail flip? Anyway, it doesn't matter what you mean, everything is the same except the frame
Nice review, but are the looks and sounds really so importnat? I'd rather hear more details about the geras or the drag system. And those minimal weight differences?! Tell the people rathter, that if 15 g matters, than they should better not wear a watch on their hand. But still a great review! Thanks!
different things are of different importance for everyone. I don't disagree with your arguments but you can't make everyone happy so i just talk about what i am partial to
I'm curious about the line roller are these two models the same. Want to know for a bearing replacement I ordered the one for the older model but it's going on the 2021.
Like is said, everything else is the same, including line rollers. And the bushing in the line roller is not easy to replace. U have to remove too many parts to replace it and then water will be going in all the time and your bearing will seize.
@@ifishcatfish thanks, I'm hoping I'm somewhat covered since I got a hybrid bearing I would have gone with a full ceramic but the last one I got made a lot of racket.
@@johnnyreb9398 no, you are not covered
@@ifishcatfish I guess I'll just throw it in the trash when I get it then since you say there's no hope. Do you toss the bearings that already come in reels you buy since absolute failure is guaranteed?
@@johnnyreb9398 is this what i said?
i think i'll love my new 2500D-XH if i can get a new rotor for this legalis. it arrived new with a split rotor. could have returned it, but due to popularity, did not think i'd get a replacement for awhile. love these vids--liked and subscribed.
i would have still returned it
Can you do luvias airity any time soon?
i will not be buying that reel, sorry
@@ifishcatfish we need honest reviews like yours... man I hope Daiwa/Shimano hook you up with free samples one day
Also, I just wanted to say if the ultegra had the same color as the spool. It could have been one of the sexiest reels....
yeah
So, is the BG (not MQ version) worth buying in 2021 and compared to the Legalis family? I can get it for roughly the same price as a Legalis. Mostly going to be fishing around shoreline salt water.
its still a great reel. I usually recommend it for catfish and carp. It is kind of heavy for ultralight fishing, but if you fish for bigger fish , then definitely. BG is not that well protected from salt.. you have to keep it clean
@@ifishcatfish Thanks. Race is down to a BG or a Legalis or an Exceler. Guess I'll be taking a few more trips down to the tackle shops. This will be my first ever purchase of fishing tackle. Had my mind blown the first time I went into a tackle shop.
Hey.
I ordered a 2021 legalis 2500 (european model) and returned it for having too much freeplay in the handle. I though it was just that unit. Ordered a 2021 legalis 2000, same problem. Tried your trick with 6pound line, did nothing. I think the freeplay is in gears. Do you have solution on that or should i return this also, really love the black/gold color..
I have regal lt 3000 on my zander rod and it has zero freeplay on the handle. I have tried the new models, fuego, exceler and all of them have huge amount of freeplay in the handle, i dont know whats wrong with the new models..
Thinking about returning this 2021 legalis 2000 also and buying regal lt 1000-2000 size for perch because it has zero freeplay but im not fan of the colour.
Thanks for great reviews
i only bought the 1000 size, and after the trick with the line 80% of free play is gone. Still some left, but i would say for 60$ reel its more than acceptable. Have not played with the bigger models yet, but did not expect them to have so much free play. Maybe try with 10 lb mono, if you feel there is still free play. The gears cannot have much back and forth free play. They have in and out free play, which can be adjusted with an extra washer on the main gear.
@@ifishcatfish Tried with 10lb line and still pretty much the same, there is freeplay in the handle knob also and you can feel it when reeling, maybe im just too picky with my fishing gear. Let me know if you try the new 2000+ lt family in tackle shop or something. New models are also much louder when spinning the reel, maybe its because there is not much grease in the gears like you said in the video. Cheers!
if you read my message again, the line will fix only back and forth free play. In and out (axial) free play can be fixed with a shim on the main gear. But these are the only two kinds of free play that you can fix. you cannot fix radial free play, but i have never noticed much radial free play in these reels. Not in new ones anyway.
As for louder... grease made my reel feel softer and nicer.. but still .. it was never loud when brand new..
Maybe you do have a bad apple. It is not rare to have poor quality in these reels, especially the ones you buy on ebay, or through discount retailers. Somehow those reels always have more noise than the ones where u pay full retail from legit store.
@@ifishcatfish Ok. Ordered a another 1000 size to test it if my unit is bad. I think the freeplay in the handle knob itself is more annoying because you can feel it clunking when reeling, handle freeplay you dont notice that much when reeling. btw have you seen the new shimano nasci fc with silentdrive, 5+1BB and screw in handle, look pretty good also, almost like stradic fl
Great video very detailed, cool info about the handle. Very pleased that I picked up 2 of the old legalis 1000d and 6,6 presso rods from watching your videos. Funny comment about blue to sabotage the reel
well i can tell from your comment you watched the whole thing : )
@@ifishcatfish hard not to, really like how in depth the reviews are that you do.
Thank you sir!!
If you're on budget, try to buy shimano sedona 1000 reel its so easy for maintenance unlike daiwa who comolicates everything.
there is no difference between THIS daiwa and Sedona. If you buy daiwa over $200, yes, hard to even open. But this one is virtually identical to the Sedona, but it has a couple important bearings that the Sedona doesn't have. The bearing that supports the pinion gear is present here. In the sedona the pinion gear is shoved in the frame, no bearing. Not nice. Also here you have a bearing in the line roller. Reduces resistance, nice. Sedona line roller runs on a bushing. Buying Sedona over this is a significant mistake, as the Sedona is more expensive, but mechanically inferior.
@@ifishcatfish i do saltwater fishing and for me the anti-reverse switch useless and just another entrance of the saltwater.
Thanks for this video which helped me to decide buying new reels (been a long time late 80’s) the older ones I was used to and still use occasionally because all the newer models were way too pricey for me. I did get lucky at Pawn shops Daiwa BG, Fuego, Penn Persuit iii each at or under $40 used in the 2500 sizes not fished too hard. Now the Laguna LT 3000-C ($35 new) you didn’t mention but I like so a bid on a clean, used (braid) spooled Legalis LT 2500D (2017) for $38 I’m hoping is a steal? Especially if they really haven’t changed in the newer models, I’ll enjoy my newer “up-cycled” reels the fish really don’t know or care how much I spend! lol 😂
Florida Tampa Bay Gulf Coast inshore fishing. We need more info on affordable saltwater reels that are worth buying.
well good luck with those. Good reels if u get them in good condition
@@ifishcatfish
Any knowledge on the Shimano NEXAVE? 2500HG beautiful condition, spooled with braided line $20 + (low) shipping. I'll have to open it up & test it out to really know but I think that's a good deal (Sienna 2500HG I was eyeballing) I never owned Shimano gear it was too pricey for me for moderate fishing.
Thanks!
Hello! What the difference between Legalis CS LT and Legalis LT? 2021
Color
So comparing about the frame between new Legalis vs Shimano Sahara, which one is more durable in saltwater? I want to buy one of these two in 3000 size.
buy the new Nasci or the new Ultegra. Those are saltwater. Neither Sahara nor Legalis have any seals at all.
@@ifishcatfish between the new Nasci and Daiwa BG SW, which one better do you think. Thanks for your quick response.
@@thinhnguyen9929 the new 2021 nasci is my pref. Daiwa is too heavy
Fuego or nasci ?
Another good review.
I haven't seen the new Regal LT yet. Hopefully it'll be released soon.
I'm waiting on the new Exceler LT to come to the US. It looks like a nice reel.
I did purchased several piscifun carbon x and a kastking zephyr to try out.
I told myself, would never buy off brands. But they intrigued me and were fairly inexpensive, so what the heck. So far I like them okay.
There was a Regal LT released last year (i have review on it), so i dont expect another release in the next 2 years...
I buy junk out of curiosity too. The truth is that even chinese reels today are better than top brands 20 years ago and definitely can be fished without problem, even if they are not as good as daiwa and shimano
I thought you meant there was a new version coming out.
I am aware of the current model Regal LT.
I have four of them- two 1000 and two 2000 size.
Great Video worth the wait. I'll miss the Presso Copper colour scheme. That is remanucent to the Hardy Altex 1935ish the first automatic bail on a spinning reel. Mine still works but lacks sophistication of today's spinning reels. Never the less it looks like a work of art. I noticed a few mint ones for sale from Japan and wonder if Daiwa used them for styling cues in the the Presso and 2017 Legalis. The Hardy cost a months pay so makes the Lt line up a great value. I also have a older Daiwa El 1655H which has a a super wide reel sten and no flex back in 1980's so the engineer's knew about the flex way back then. Zinc gears aren't a bad thing if you're a modern Daiwa 2000 onward. I could live with the Blue accent as it matches my boat. Anyways I agree pick your colour not your bearing count. Tight Lines to ya.
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The Presso is still around! You just have to get it from Japan.
Is the spool interchangeble?
For 1000 XH do you think i need to upgrade from lgalis 17 to 21 zaion ??
Pls answer...
No. That would not be upgrade
Great video, highly informative, thanks!! Greetings from México!
nice! : )
Just bought a excelsior before I saw this add
It felt ok in the hand and for the price
which year though?
The spool on the '21 looks taller TBH.
Its the same. Also locomotive gear is the same. If u put different spools the line lay wont work
@@ifishcatfish they are nearly impossible to find...😒
Can I use them for saltwater or is it meant for fresh
Fresh. Fuego is a saltwater Legalis
I wonder if the new color of the legalis is to align its looks with the older saltiga model.... have a look at the old saltiga, and let me know if you see the similarities. That being said, I thought the old saltiga was on the unattractive side.
maybe they look similar but i dont think the designers would consider something like that. I think they actually sell a Legalis rod in Europe, and they try to match it with that
hi.. new sub here just watch your review on the leagalis and i love it. oh there is a newer version of the legalis cs lt.. the black and gold accent hope you check it..
no, but im sure its the same reel with some difference that doesn't matter
I’ve been watching this guy a while and I’m not gona lie whatever he recommends I’ve bought if I was in the market for one,he’s reviews are top notch and honest awesome videos and funny at times..one of my favorite RUclipsrs 👏👏
I appreciate that!
Daiwa Exceler lt 2020 good looking reel.
Я тебе поймал куда ты пошел )))) я думал что другой ролик начался
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The blue is a better look. Thats a fact. not an opinion 😂
NEW DAIWA LEGALIS CS LT IS BETTER. CHECK IT OUT IFISH
thats not new. Its a model for china.
The new legalis lt the material of the body is much better more stiffer body less flex than the old model
but in the 1000 size there is no difference. Also if your drag is set at 100 grams, it doesn't matter anyway
@@ifishcatfish I love the new color of the dai war legalis lt I wish the 5000 and 6000 size comes with a round knob instead paddle
Sahara best
happy holidays
I have the Legalis LT 2500 -17 and the Fuego LT 1000 -21, but both don't put on the line beautifully. I don't know why these reels are praised by this n00b. The reels should be avoided.
i dont know why i'm helping a turd with such attitude, but u need to learn about shimming, and then u probably use too thick line that doesn't fit in the spool. This reel lays line perfectly - look all my videos
I believe the same model in Europe looks like this instead and they are all called 20 models instead of 21 in US for some reason. www.daiwa.com/scandinavia/contents/reels/20_legalis_lt/index.html
I think these blue colors dont fly in Europe. I have noticed european tackle always comes in better colors