Pastor Afrika Mhlophe reacts to khehla manjoro's recent interview on the King David Studios podcast.

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  • Опубликовано: 7 окт 2024
  • Khehla Manjoro claims that being a Christian doesn't mean you can not participate in the veneration of ancestors. As a former catholic she believes that these world views are compatible with each other and the sacraments used in the Anglican church and the Catholic church are the same in concept as the use of incense in African Spirituality.
    Pastor Afrika debunks this notion. Using some biblical and philosophical arguments.
    #africanspirituality #bisratapologetics #christianity
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  • @B4Africa
    @B4Africa  8 месяцев назад

    Part 1 of our conversation with Pastor Afrika Mhlophe.
    ruclips.net/video/7tqk8ABkqDc/видео.html
    More videos with Pastor Afrika.
    ruclips.net/video/rmO-xAvqU6c/видео.htmlsi=bEmgqDGcmkVrq17F
    Understanding Ancestral Worship
    ruclips.net/video/VE6-0bJ9tqE/видео.htmlsi=f1MUG7Q3PjWJBckf

    • @LindiweNduli
      @LindiweNduli 8 месяцев назад

      Thank you Lwandiso for having him I learned a lot from pastor Mhlophe I wish Ricky can have him too God bless

    • @B4Africa
      @B4Africa  8 месяцев назад

      @LindiweNduli I will try to get Ricky to do an in person interview. Think that's a great idea.

  • @GrantSwanepoel
    @GrantSwanepoel Месяц назад +1

    Great discussion. I think the issue is one of authority. If scripture is the authority then you must obey it!

  • @Clairsmith123
    @Clairsmith123 6 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you Pastor Afrika!! 🙏🙏❤️ I Thank Jesus for you!

  • @ShandukaniSharonMugivhisa
    @ShandukaniSharonMugivhisa Месяц назад +2

    The confusion is that people debate what they don't understand.

  • @christinekruger7327
    @christinekruger7327 4 месяца назад

    Thank you pastor. Your message is always inspiring

  • @NkechiSaba
    @NkechiSaba 5 месяцев назад +1

    If it is so hard to have Jesus as our Lord and Savior, then identifying ourselves as "Christians " is a misconception. Jesus Christ is a whole package of what humanity needs.Having him as Lord means ALL needs are taken care of.If you find yourself still in need,you have not given your whole life to him.He is God incarnate and can never be compared even to my own ancestors.

  • @suzanmannibijara
    @suzanmannibijara 5 месяцев назад +3

    How can people serve two masters.It can't be God and dead people.Only Jesus is our mediator not ancestors people perish because of lack of knowledge

  • @Demawi650
    @Demawi650 8 месяцев назад +3

    I'd actually seen this episode and tuned out halfway cos of all the misunderstanding of the Bible. It's really so sad, cos many believe these ppl.
    But we are also living in such a beautiful time in that these ppl are also self exposing their lack of knowledge.

  • @jobeconsult
    @jobeconsult 7 месяцев назад +2

    Most Christians are also confused because even the bible that they are quoting from is not the true word of the Almighty.

  • @yongamamqulo8129
    @yongamamqulo8129 8 месяцев назад +2

    Roman Catholic Church brought so much confusion to the people about the way of God and they carefully introduced them to the ways of Satan on purpose because they are the tares that Yahusha spoke about. Many of our church denominations today are still following some RCC's pagan ways like pagan holidays such as Christmas, Easter, Valentines etc. These pagan holidays did not start in Rome but in ancient Babylon of Nimrod the first pagan ruler who created the satanic system of governence that we have today. This spread from Babylon, Egypt and other encient world dominating civilizations such as Syria, Greece and also Rome which happened to mixed these pagan rituals with the way of God under Roman Catholic Church.

  • @johnkhaba9647
    @johnkhaba9647 8 месяцев назад +2

    With dew respect, I would like to ask from this platform, if you could bring someone who knows exactly, the journey of the FOUNDERS (not the appointed) and the real HISTORY (not hear saying) of Shembes, St Paul, St John etc. Apostolic churches in South Africa.
    This is very very important.

    • @B4Africa
      @B4Africa  8 месяцев назад

      Can you give me some context, brother?Which part of the video are we referring to? And which part is not real History?

  • @johnkhaba9647
    @johnkhaba9647 8 месяцев назад +1

    Proverbs 2 vs 6 reads, For the LORD GIVES WISDOM out of HIS mouth (words of the Bible) comes KNOWLEDGE and UNDERSTANDING.

  • @ShandukaniSharonMugivhisa
    @ShandukaniSharonMugivhisa Месяц назад

    African traditions are our gifts from God and there is no contradictions as to how we see God..The only problem is this confused people comparing our ancestors and God.How do you reject yuor Ancestors..

    • @B4Africa
      @B4Africa  Месяц назад

      @ShandukaniSharonMugivhisa ruclips.net/video/W5vjw1NVsAI/видео.htmlsi=B5zmVvYN8sif3kMG
      Please watch here bafo. And explain to me what is Idlozi?

  • @mappfire17
    @mappfire17 3 месяца назад

    🇬🇦 Mbolo/ Shalom 👋🏿.. great react video 🙏🏿 on point

  • @choicegospelnetwork
    @choicegospelnetwork 8 месяцев назад +2

    How can I get in touch with Pastor Africa please.?

    • @B4Africa
      @B4Africa  8 месяцев назад

      Send us an email at Bisrat4Africa@gmail.com, and I will include you in an email to him.

  • @Thembi_-gy1bw
    @Thembi_-gy1bw 8 месяцев назад +1

    God have mercy on this lady,it's a pity that the gentleman is taken and feel like he missed some teachings😢😢😢 No two masters for one person

    • @B4Africa
      @B4Africa  8 месяцев назад

      Yah. He thinks this is great teaching.

  • @noniscorner
    @noniscorner 8 месяцев назад +5

    People who say they worship God and their ancestors have not met the God of the bible i.e. they are not born again. They are just straggling between two belief systems one of which is the christian religion. Until people know that our God is a relational and personal God, we will continue to have such people who think their ancestor are the mediators between them and God contrary to what the bible says that there's only one mediator between God and man i.e. Jesus Christ, not even the pastor. Usemkhulu umsebenzi odinga ukwenziwa eMzansi. God help us.

    • @tshidiso9653
      @tshidiso9653 8 месяцев назад +1

      As if you have met him🤣🤣🤣

    • @jobeconsult
      @jobeconsult 7 месяцев назад

      Who is God of the Bible? You are brain washed big time

    • @Onakho_naks
      @Onakho_naks 6 месяцев назад

      The real God is is not in the bible, he lives in us, animals nature and everywhere. Let us story limiting God by placing God in a book.

    • @_theerealnono_7694
      @_theerealnono_7694 5 месяцев назад

      You see how the devils came to attack you?

    • @Onakho_naks
      @Onakho_naks 5 месяцев назад

      @@_theerealnono_7694 There’s a saying that says: “insults are the last resort of a scoundrel” you’ve just proved it right.

  • @ONEGODTVNETWORK
    @ONEGODTVNETWORK 7 месяцев назад +3

    Whay they like to mix bible and miss qout it so bad

  • @choicegospelnetwork
    @choicegospelnetwork 8 месяцев назад

    It's Called SELF WORSHIP.

  • @LesegoMpodu
    @LesegoMpodu 5 месяцев назад

    Praise God

  • @kogiemoodley8935
    @kogiemoodley8935 3 месяца назад

    Hello how are you. How do i get hold of pastor Mhlope

  • @NgonyamaYokhuKhanya
    @NgonyamaYokhuKhanya 6 месяцев назад +2

    At some point as Bantu people we need to learn to use our power of discernment accurately in spirit and not religiously because you will miss the gems of some of the esoteric knowledge that is being passed by many of the platforms. Wake up, and be bold to discern and interpret ancient texts spiritually and not religiously. There are many accounts in the Bible were ancestral veneration and rituals were performed and being butchered contextually and symbolically by the religious interpretations.

    • @B4Africa
      @B4Africa  6 месяцев назад

      Which religious interpretations?

    • @_theerealnono_7694
      @_theerealnono_7694 5 месяцев назад +2

      Y'all should just say that you just want to worship the devil and stop trying to sound woke. A lot of you don't even understand scripture and twist it, yet want to dictate what some of us should do.

  • @thabangdexternkoko384
    @thabangdexternkoko384 8 месяцев назад +2

    Listening to this i realise how brain dead i was as a former christian

    • @nthabisengkwayiba4573
      @nthabisengkwayiba4573 8 месяцев назад +3

      You were never a Christian my friend 😂😂

    • @thabangdexternkoko384
      @thabangdexternkoko384 8 месяцев назад

      @@nthabisengkwayiba4573 In fac the only thing left is to undo the covenant and rituals i accepted from church. The confirmation and sacraments 😁😁😁

    • @_theerealnono_7694
      @_theerealnono_7694 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@nthabisengkwayiba4573Yes, he never was, just a faker.

  • @johnkhaba9647
    @johnkhaba9647 8 месяцев назад

    Matthew 6 vs 1 reads, Take heed that you do not your alms before Men, to be seen of them: otherwise you have no reward of your Father which is in HEAVEN.

  • @a.dlamini
    @a.dlamini 8 месяцев назад

    Hi Brother, where can I purchase the book i’ve emailed a few results from Google before with no reply. Did not see your email address in your description box. Would love to have 2 copies please. Thank you

    • @B4Africa
      @B4Africa  8 месяцев назад +1

      Greetings. No problem. Bisrat4Africa@gmail.com. Just drop me a message and will take it from there. Thanks.

    • @a.dlamini
      @a.dlamini 8 месяцев назад

      @@B4Africathank you.

  • @thamimthethwa8826
    @thamimthethwa8826 8 месяцев назад

    Thank you I watched this episode but I did not watch the full episode cause of the misuse of scripture but I was angry later when I found out this lady she is popular in my social circles apparently she has a slot on Radio 2000.

    • @B4Africa
      @B4Africa  8 месяцев назад

      Yoh. Radio 2000.

  • @pulengradebe1315
    @pulengradebe1315 6 месяцев назад

    Who is Jesus? How can you believe in someone you dont know ?

    • @B4Africa
      @B4Africa  6 месяцев назад

      In what sense do you think Christians don't know Jesus? Christians believe you can know Jesus and have a personal relationship. We believe we know him. Do you believe in the existence of God?

    • @Onakho_naks
      @Onakho_naks 5 месяцев назад

      @@B4Africa I believe Jesus was the prophet of the people of Israel exactly how Shembe was the prophet of the Zulu people. He was never God but a prophet pf God who was sent to deliver the people of Israel. We as African people must return to our beliefs before colonialists came and established missionaries and enforcing their beliefs on us.
      I believe God was never in any way a human form like colonialists made us to believe.

    • @_theerealnono_7694
      @_theerealnono_7694 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@Onakho_naksJesus Christ was the Son indeed, but the Spirit of God (Holy Spirit) dwelled in him, the flesh wasn't God, but the Spirit in Him definitely was. Jesus is LORD, whether you know of it or not. He is the risen King whose name has authority, otherwise we wouldn't be praying, baptising and doing everything in the name of Jesus Christ.

    • @_theerealnono_7694
      @_theerealnono_7694 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Onakho_naksI don't need to return to anything that won't do me any good or please my LORD. All that stuff is spiritual regression and leads to serious bondage. It's a pity you're so blinded by the lies of the devil and racial hatred that you think God Almighty is a certain race when He is a spirit. No European started anything, God is Holy and has always been there.
      Oh, never compare Shembe or whatever African leader or false prophet to the King himself. They don't have any power, neither can they secure you eternal life once you're no longer here.

    • @preciousmaphalala4708
      @preciousmaphalala4708 21 день назад

      ​@@B4AfricaThere was god before jesus

  • @shÉkÉ_dollä
    @shÉkÉ_dollä 5 месяцев назад

    referral: dr zulumathabo zulu ; ray hagins ; robin walker ; credo mutwa .

    • @B4Africa
      @B4Africa  5 месяцев назад

      What about him

    • @shÉkÉ_dollä
      @shÉkÉ_dollä 5 месяцев назад

      @@B4Africa research them

    • @B4Africa
      @B4Africa  5 месяцев назад

      @@shÉkÉ_dollä I know them. I have Credos books.

    • @shÉkÉ_dollä
      @shÉkÉ_dollä 5 месяцев назад

      @@B4Africa im suRe you do .

    • @B4Africa
      @B4Africa  5 месяцев назад

      @boikutlomanogi7210 But what were you going to say I must Lookout for there. The matandela?

  • @ReubenFilipeZavala-q9x
    @ReubenFilipeZavala-q9x Месяц назад

    So it means if it was not the King David Studio interview, you did not have content at all. You just picky bag on it. It shows how powerful it was. Next time please stick to your Christian religion it has sufficient content and leave African Spirituality if it is not palatable to you

  • @mzamontantiso2580
    @mzamontantiso2580 Месяц назад

    Hayi you are speaking for yourself, do not generalize to the rest of the population. Christ is specific to those who believe in Christ , just like Mohamed the Prophet is relevant to Islam. The Egoistic vantage point of view as absolute view of faith is Bull Shit!

    • @B4Africa
      @B4Africa  Месяц назад

      @mzamontantiso2580 Is what you saying absolutely true or only true for you?