Fencer Accuses Opponent of FLOPPING! [Epee]
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- From the semi final match between Yulen Pereira of Spain and Bogdan Nikishin of Ukraine at the 2019 Doha Grand Prix in Qatar
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Not sure why the commentators were acting like Nikishin was actually trying to sell that as him being pushed, he pretty clearly was just mocking what he thought Pereira was doing.
What Pereira was doing*
@@dited358 ?
yeah but he started to act like a frustrated child afterward so
The second one looks a little sus but the first one for sure hit pretty hard
"it needs some practice" -David King
sometimes our boi drops gems like this
That shake of hands at the end! XD I do love some good epee drama!
"That might've been the first flop in fencing I've ever seen."
Yakimenko has entered the chat. (not entirely accurate, but you get the idea)
Nikishin was just ratty because he was losing. Not his finest hour. On that last point, he was practically whipping the Spaniard with the flat of his blade.
3:32 I find it funny how he still is a bit salty so he does this
Lol epee I could never, I swear I’d just clock people with that heavy stick once this kind of thing starts happening
Beautiful thing about epee is that if someone's pissing you off, you can aim for the mask or the balls and they're both legal hits. Don't need to get aggressive, just get petty
@@ScoptOriginal destroy toes
Just what fencing needs, flopping
Just had to say: I'm from Brazil, and that thumb with Neymar crying was simply epic! Thank you for that hahaha
LMAO Pereira won literally by acting like your little brother when you mildly push him, fencing rules protected him from getting absolutely destroyed
not gonna comment on whether he was flopping or not but he was up 8-4 i dont think the ukranian had much of a chance here
Saber fencer...am confused.
Хаха знакомо брат
1sr action the guy on the lect xefinitely gave him a shot, pushing him away. 2nd action , a nit of "hollywood". 3rd action, dude on the left needs to take up soccer...
That's sooo hilarious 😆 nice clip.
I love the Neymar Thumb
If I have no idea how fencing works but am now a interested, could someone explain to me what fouls this guy was committing?
"Dangerous, violent, or vindictive action." An immediate red card -- point against the offender. He was penalized for pushing away the Spaniard. Had he done the flop earlier in the bout, it would've been another red card for dishonest fencing, but since the bout was over with the 15th touch, it didn't matter....although it WAS a dick move.
@@samsignorelli thanks man!
Dude on the right needs to be playing in the NBA flopping like that 😂🤦♂️
Some fencers are also mimes I think.
Fencing doesn't pay the bills, got to do something.
i give you the first but the second one the spaniard totally faked it. thts dishonest and a shamefull win
It's caLLed tit For taT😅
Is this a medal bout ?
Semi final
this is not a sportsmanspirit From ukranian Fencer aggression is ok but its onLy a game one shouLd not Forget their vaLues.।।
why didn't Pereira get carded in the 2nd action?
I think it's because you can't really know that he was faking it, if it happend again then maybe a yellow card
Looked to me like he was expecting Nikishin to hit him so he tried to square up and keep his balance. I think that's why he pulled his left arm in to protect his midsection.
because he was smart enough to make it look sufficiently accidental to get away with it.
@@familyhelpdeskhelpdesk270 smart ? drama queen is smart ?
What event is this from?
Doha 2019 GP
Nikishin does not belong in this sport.
Pereira was flopping so much 😂
These guys can fence but he’s scared of getting hit? 😭
Fencing is a non contact combat sport. Body to body contact is not allowed. The idea is that by “flopping” you’ll make your opponent get a card, enough cards and you’re kicked from the bout and sometimes even the event altogether.
Red light green light game isnt it?
As in soccer, there are countries that flop and those that don’t. It’s a form of cheating that must be stopped.
Feel like Pereira forced that clinch to get that cheat point. He dove in, turned his back towards Nikishin, then kept pushing in.
Great SPAIN!!!!
they just are gay and wanted to hug each other
hahaha
Oh shit theirs a lebron of fencing!?! Lol
Es saco de weas
XD?
He wasn't trying to sell anything, his foot dragged and he lost his balance. Are they for real?
Me as a HEMA fencer: ‘all I see is solid close range options’
For real tho, why does this count as a foul? Unless you start punching with the cup to the face or throwing kicks or punches to the body, the gear should protect you.
because it's unsportsmanlike. And if that was allowed, where do we put the line? Fencing has no weight-divisions, so if those kinds of options were allowed, the bigger guys could just make the match really ugly. How do you think koki kano would do against yannick borel if pushing and other similar physical actions were allowed?
@@custer3176 shoving, pushing and such things are allowed in HEMA fencing (which doesn’t have weight divisions either), it’s just part of the game; I get that fencing is not swordfighting, but I see it as a good punishment for coming in close. Bigger, stronger people don’t necessarily win up close like that either tbh, its an advantage sure, but then again, going for a push or shove does leave you exposed to bladework...
@@chopstick1671 Go search kano vs borel and tell me if it would be a good idea to allow shoves and pushes. And it's still unsportsmanlike. And a good punishment? How is it a good and fair punishment if it gives an unreal advantage to the bigger guy?
@@custer3176 I looked them up, and their size different isn’t that much; Borel is 1,96 m and Kano is 1,73 m.
I am 1,93 m; and have fought 1,60 m people that managed to get me with shoves, pushes, pushing the weapon arm, etc. It’s not so much about size and power as it’s about ‘going for it first while the opponent is unprepared’.
I dunno why it would be inherently unsportsmanlike, of course then if the rules forbid it, it’s breaking the rules, that’s true; but pushing and shoving is a valid tactic I’d say if allowed. It stops the situations like this where they’re just doing weird stuff because they are too close, and within hand-to-hand range.
And again, it doesn’t give an unfair advantage to the bigger guy; by the logic of fairness, the bigger guy should have a decreased target area against smaller opponents, because smaller people are harder to hit... yet that would be ridiculous right?
@@chopstick1671 well yes but bigger guys also have the the reach so that balances it out. But making something allowed that clearly favours a certain type of body type would be dumb, in my opinion. And its also not really about height but weight and size. Borel weighs 30 kg more than kano. Kano getting physical with borel would be dangerous for him. I also don't know about you but i think infighting situations are really fun to watch when done well. I think allowing pushing and shoving would just allow more violent way to fence that is not really needed.
Periera behaved disgustingly, playing on both. It's not fair. Nikishin did nothing that any other fencer wouldn't have done.
play dirty?
the spaniard is a pretender, i guess
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