How To Move (Or Add) A Laundry Room | Church Flip | Episode 13
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2022
- In this video I'm breaking down how to rough-in a new laundry room step by step. This involves mechanical, plumbing and electrical (in that order). Make sure you're following building code! Don't forget to book your initial and final inspections! Drywall Cutting Tool: geni.us/UICcP0o (Amazon)
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Lots of respect for all the disciplines you rely on, Jeff. I've been an engineer on state of-the art high tech tools and instrumentation (diagnostics, fabrication) for 30 years and I've had to learn just about every discipline in the process. It's amazing how involved each discipline can be if you're good at it. When you have to combine all these skillsets in one job, with only one person, it's almost mental saturation. So again, respect for how you keep packing that understanding in and learning more and more about these complex disciplines.
I would wrap the strapping around the waste drain pipe for better stability.
Just wanted to thank you for all your videos, I have been fixing up a house I just bought and literally every question I've had you have been able to answer!!
Great to hear! Well done!
I'm in the process of building my own home myself. When designing the bedroom I built the laundry room next to my walk-in closet and separated the 2 with pocket doors. My wife is very happy.
I laughed at the "this is the way I grew up doing it... I don't want to learn any new tricks" haha, awesome video as always Jeff
Glad you enjoyed it! Cheers!
Love your honesty when mistakes happen and then show solutions. Much respect to you. Appreciate you sharing your knowledge. I've been able to do alot of things myself saving money.
Hi Jeff, yes it constantly changes, from codes to design etc. appreciate your channel, been watching for a long time 👍. Thank you , phx az 😊
I've learnt so much from you over the few years I've been watching your videos. It's helped a lot. Thank you so much for helping the DIYers.
Glad to help!
This is a very much needed video for my project. My laundry room is right behind my pantry shelves and by moving the laundry to another location, possibly basement, I can have a nice big walk in pantry.
Glad it was helpful! You can do this!
Loved watching this. You're knowledge and experience is completely obvious but it is the honest way you deal with the setbacks that really impressed me. As a retired millwright I know, we all do it and the true measure of a tradesman is not just how the job is planned but how it is executed to successful completion while overcoming the mistakes and unseen challenges. Much respect.
Here goes another informative content! You make it look so easy to do these DIYs. Keep all these great videos coming!
I've literally been doing this during the summer this year! I'm almost done. We are so excited. Bringing the machines up from the basement!
well done!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Thanks for your instruction Jeff. Have you ever done a video of moving the washer/dryer from the basement to main level?
not yet but the process is the same. run all new lines and exhaust. Cheers!
@@vroom6490 that's what I'm doing! Are you trying to do the same? Mybbiggest problem is going to be finding someone to help me actually move the machines up the stairs.
Great content. I like how you don’t leave out mistakes or edit the footage too much and show your thought process for adapting to situations since that is how you build experience.
Even tho you left out the fact you did all that electrical work forgetting you said you were going to fur out the wall so all those boxes will need to be remounted and wire lengths adjusted! 😎
Those Saniflo pumps are lifesavers *in the right situation*. As someone that has had to troubleshoot and replace parts inside of one, it is worth quite a bit of money, trouble and time to avoid using them. Worst thing (emptying the Saniflow) I have ever done in my life.
I love to watch your mistakes because then I get to see the fixes. You are my FAVORITE! Keep it up.
Wow, thanks! Cheers!
Thanks for the video @homerenovisiondiy. I'm enclosing or covered breezeway and converting it to a laundry room. Luckily all I have to do is flip everything from the garage side to the new laundry room side.
Been watching this dude for yrs as renovate my home. Helped me out countless times. Other channels are good too but this guy is from a climate similar to mine. Building a deck in Northern Ontario is so much different than Texas for example. On top of that hes likeable. Even with the odd cheesy joke. Lol
I don’t know why this is enthralling to me but it is.
I just moved my laundry tonight. Finished moving the electrical and running the drains. Funny your video came out same day. Good stuff!
That is awesome!
Making my trade and all the trade look so easy. Just like its another thusday ! Great video !
New code is 2 inch for laundry drain
ran plenty of plumbing in last 10 years, never had a problem with pinch clamps.
Why didn't you use 2" for the drain out the box? Most codes require it, and that is why the box is made for a 2" pvc glue connection.
In the city...I live outside in the country...where I live you must use copper for water...no pex allowed. If you use a metal electric box all electric wiring has to be inside conduit. On sewage/drainage you have to run a vent line up and out of either the attic or thru the roof...cheater air valves not allowed. Yeah. They're sticklers to things is outrageous. In the country out here...no building codes or inspectors to deal with. I still follow the old rules...do it right even if it costs more. I also still do all my electric boxes out of the thicker blue or black plastic except a junction box which is metal, with the little black plastic nut end things that when you tighten presses down against the wire stuck in the holes my wires come in thru, wires soldered, wire nuts on the ends, wrap a little tape, and covered...just to be sure. PVC for cold water, CPVC for hot.
edit...forgot to mention in the city they don't allow wall plugs and switches to use the cheater push in holes. You have to wrap the screw, and the 3rd ground has to be up...don't know why because it doesn't really matter. And no 14 gauge wiring allowed. 12 gauge is minimum on 10 to 15 amp circuits, 10 for 20 to 25 amp, 8 on 30 amp...literally 1 step larger for each. Yep. They are weird.
I use C-spanners for the 1/2” and 3/4” box fittings (Canadian tire sells them). Piece of cake to tighten them without having to use a hammer and punch.
Perfect timing just started considering moving our laundry to unfinished basement
take time to at least paint he area so it is bright. laundry can be a lot of work in a dark space.
This guy admits his mistakes? Hell, he should run for president; I'd vote for him!
I was using the pinch rings for quite some time however I never realized the problem will but I don't use those no more I actually use PEXA with the expander
How long after did the stainless steel pinch crimps failed ? Just installed a new line for washing machine and used those vs the copper rings.
Man, I'm happy to live in Europe (Netherlands to be exact). Our code is so much better / easier while at the same time safer. We put our wire in a pvc pipe and we're done. Anything is prepared for 16A (230V) breakers so I can unplug my dryer and misuse the plug for my phone charger.
14:05 "It's more about getting it in, getting it on, and getting it out." That's what she said!
Hey Jeff, it's like you're telepathic because I'm looking into relocating my laundry into my basement, thank you!
Would you be willing to do an episode talking about relocating a washer to a place where it's below the main soil stack, and how to tie into that properly?
watch how i tie in this laundry. the answer is to use a saniflow pump. just like I have roughed in here. video coming in a couple weeks!
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I've learn now the less the excited the more the skill lmao it almost felt like he didn't want to do this video. I most likely will never do this but it was great to watch
@ 46 minutes and 10 seconds, those words spoke to me.
I have been learning and doing my own renovations to the disapproval of everyone around me.
One question though, why do the stainless steel cinch pex fittings fail more than the copper crimps?
Jeff, since you opened up the ceiling, why not run the wire through the joists instead of tacked under them? You seem to have room now to drill the holes. Would prevent you from having to build a box.
Minor recommendation, remove the price stickers from the plumbing if it is at any connection. While rare, it can interfere with the solvent making a water-tight bond.
You make it look SO simple 😁
I wish 😅 have that magic ✨✨✨😁😅
Measuring, in theory, is so easy. Measuring in practice is the most difficult thing you'll do.
that is why i like to work with the idea of having room to adjust on the fly.
AllRound or even "plumbers tape" flexible metal strapping.
New code requires laundry drain to be 2 inches
exaxctly. I learned that after we filmed and upgraded before inspection. Cheers!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY hmmmm..eyy
Jeff mentions at 22:55 that he needs to update the drain to 2 inches. 😉
what section does it say that? just for reference :)
@@semo6229 the drain section 😆
Hi Jeff. Hope all is well with you and family.
Same to you! Cheers!
You applied solvent right on top of the barcode label on that coupling.
Hi Jeff. In the UK the majority of DWV is outside of the home, attached to the side of the house. either cast Iron (old) or PVC (new). Plus We don't have the risk of freezing in the discharge pipes as our temps don't hit the same as we have in The Great White North. Most places don't allow ABS as it was made from recycled crap and subject to UV light. In our Province in Canada you cannot use PVC (Go figure?!) as the code is outdated. And electrical is 220v in the UK so getting zapped really hurts a lot more, don't ask me how I know this :-) just trust me. I can tell the tale if you really wanna know? Personally, I like having the 110v system in North America, with the advent of LED lights and low voltage electronic devices the lights no longer dim every time your run the kettle and the TV during Stanley Cup advertising break.
Canada, a country based on Metric which sells lumber in feet and Diesel in liters. As opposed to the UK which was until recently part of the European Trade Union that sells lumber in mm (but everyone knows what you are asking for) and diesel in Gallons....
jeff you are amazing my names john on my wifes account iv watched you videos from start to finish you are the man!!!
Here code for washer drains is 2” minimum.
You are the best teacher👍❤
Thank you! 😃
Careful, Ontario building code doesn't usually allow ABS pipe to be used under pressure, which in this case would be! An often missed requirement. Even sump pumps I inspect always have ABS piping, admittedly I never blinked an eye until it was brought up with coworkers.
What are you talking about?
46:17 Maybe take off the barcode sticker too if you really want the solvent to work 😆
Not sure how i get my measurements wrong... then proceeds to count out wire at 4', 12', 16'... haha. Love it.
Washer hookups should have been put on left and dryer vent on right. Reason is that front load washers are all left-hinged and non-reversible. This won't matter for a top load washer, but it is a big mistake if homeowner wants a front load.
2” P-trap - 6 to 18 inches from the ground. Stand pipe 18-24 inches from the ptrap.
Ptrap at least 2*pipe diameter up to 5’ to the vent, depending on vent diameter.
Slope no more than 4 “ to 1’.
I really don’t think gluing and cutting is the hard part of plumbing. It is making sure that your doing it to code and choosing the connections.
My flipping vent is going into the garage. Hope this helps, about to find out.
14:35 Wrong! That is called a bushing. A reducing coupling is a different fitting. I've got to start filming me and my son's work.
Perfect timing!!
I was thinking saw a bathroom makeover video where you used the pinch clamps? What changed your thinking on them failing over the rings. Thanks as always for the very good and informative videos Jeff
They rust
Great video! Always wondered about dryers having a completely different power outlet/size than a regular one like for a fridge or a washing machine. What is the theory behind this?
A dryer, like an electric oven, draws a huge amount of power in comparison to the other appliances. Thus the components of the circuit are more robust.
Question on the waste water pump you need for this basement. Are these pumps reliable? I would imagine if it broke down or had any other issues, your drain water would back up, right?? My last question is ...do basements when being built with a bathroom or any other requirement for a drain have regular gravity sewer lines put in? Or do they also require pumps from the get go when new??
Saniflo pumps are reliable. But it they go, or the electric is off it will backup.
Other option is to dig a pit, put in a macerator ejector pump to the sewer line. This is typical and would likely be used on new construction.
I am simply getting occupancy with the intention of doing a major renovation at a later date. I don't actually intend to use the laundry , just need it for the permit. in real practice I suggest the 2 pump version of this company. they work independently and have an alarm if needs service.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I think you can only use the abs/pvc transition cement once in your entire home per code.
no idea. just know that the only place i need it is in the laundry!
Hi Jeff, can't you make a hole in 2x6 for wire and avoid the boxing? I have seen doing that passed the inspection.
sure you can. Cheers!
As I just learned all this from doing mine, it would have been worthwhile to mention standpipe and p trap length and height requirements for the washer drain line. Thanks for the great video as always
True, but can you share what you learned doing yours?
@@TwilightxKnight13 yes, basically what I learned is that the p-trap has a height requirement that it has to be installed above the floor level, and that it must be between 6-18 inches above the floor. The standpipe itself (after the joint of the p-trap) needs to be between 18-42 inches. If the stand pipe is too long, I learned that the drainage can cause excess sloughing of drainage out of the P-trap resulting in an inneffecive water seal. If it's too short, you could overflow your drain line. In my state, it is a requirement that all drain lines for washing machines are now 2" diameter.
@@TwilightxKnight13 obviously there can be difference and you have to clarify with your local codes and what your inspector wants to see
I was using the rotozip & stripped wires in 2 boxes & cut the ear for the face plate off another box. I was using the drywall bit for the rotozip. Good thing the box was accessible behind the wall & there was plenty of extra wire slack. I have no idea how that happened other than a faulty bit.
sometimes if the extension on the bit is greater than the pilot end it happens.
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Ahh, OK. I had no trouble with the other cutouts but the bit broke off with a couple of boxes to access. I used an oscillating tool to finish. Thanks for the reply.
Thanks for this informational video. I have question. I have one drain that I want to use for a kitchen sink and a clothes washer. I know it isn't recommended to have both on same drain, but how can I make this work. I have 2 inch pipe that runs approximately 2 or 3 feet then branches off to a 3 inch abs pipe.
How could that pass inspection if your standpipe is over 24" tall?
3:48 Jeff have you found that the Copper Rings put way too much pressure on the fittings and cause issues down the road?
Code is max 1/2 in under CEC of sheathing in the device box, and 6 inches of wire
@21:54 - You are not allowed to use a aav for a pump system. (I think you’re running a separate vent for the pump though.) Aav should not be buried in wall at least needs an access panel, best to put it right under the sink.
@23:45 - Most pumps require the circuit be a dedicated run from the panel (should be mentioned so people don’t screw this up)
@28:51 - Staple every 5 ft not required where drywall is already installed.
@44:21 - should have the specs in pump spec sheet , the The Saniflo 0.3 HP gray water pump requires a 15A 120V GFCI protected circuit. You should not be suggesting people use 14-2 for 240v systems. Only 15 amp 120v!
how do you find out if you don’t know since you are not a plumber but was curious how easy adding hookups for the laundry room. thanks
Thank you for such a detailed video. It was a great review for this home owner and ex contractor LoL 😂
"Half inch pipe wrap" of yeah pool noodles is what came to mind
3:45 wow that was so easy
Can you glue the 3in to 2in together even thou it still had the sticker on the adapter?
Could you add the p trap of the washing machine into the main stack clean out drain?
Can you do a video on updating plumbing water lines that go into concrete?
i just dont get it. its like you have a copy of my to do list and plan your videos accordingly. thanks for all of them🤙
LOL. no list. Cheers!
So am I correct to say that the laundry drain is now required to be 2" but the venting is still 1-1/2"?
Humble dude here! I liked and subscribed! Thanks !
You comment about water in the vent and cure it without finding a cause by adding too much slope.. Water in the pipe is not bad unless it can statically collect more than a 1/4" which means it is not using steady gravity. Too much and it can siphon a p trap. Even heavy winds can make a vent pipe evaporate a p trap on unused sink in a week or three.
Did you say you are furring out the wall 2”. Would it been easier to add your furring strips, then set all you rough in boxes? Thank you for sharing.
If you watch that section again, you will see it was shot after all the electrical was roughed in.
So, he did all that work, and now needs to detach the boxes and reset them after furring out the wall.
@@tay13666 gotcha. Thank you
How do I move the laundry without the saniflow and how long and how far would I have to dig?
Thank you Jeff!
This is such a great video. How do u keep knowing what projects are on my to do list?
google tells me. Cheers!
I wonder why isn't standard do have a floor drain in every room where there are water supply. Specially Laundry, but i'm also thinking nearby a toilet, kitchen sink, any area where it's common to have water disaster. It would save all of them, wouldn't it?
I'm thinking to move my Laundry, thanks you for your video. I'm also thinking to have a floor drain, what do you think about it
put the washer in a pan with a drain so if the pump breaks...your all good. Cheers!
At 1:03, you show us a "washer box". What can I do to add a utility sink if my house already has a "washer box" in a finished garage wall?
Does the solvent work over the stickers on the pipe?
Great job! I think this video raised my blood pressure slightly. LOL
RIght before your wire entered the panel room, you ran the wires under a floor joist. Is that legal? What keeps a screw from being drilled through those cables when you patch drywall? And wouldn't that keep the drywall from being able to sit flush?
building a box to keep my life simple. Cheers!
Jeff, I have asked this before, but cannot seem to find an answer. Do you use ABS vs PVC because of personal preference or local code? If personal preference, why do you prefer ABS?
I'm wondering the same thing.
Can I add a washer drain to the main clean out?
I absolutely love this guy😂
Hey Jeff! What gives with all the commercials now on your videos? It used to be one or two, I think in this video, I got like 6 different interruptions with 2 commercials each... Just wondering. Been watching you for a couple of years now. Love what you're doing. I have gain valuable insight into the working of a house, and the confidence to tackle many projects myself. Thanks so much! I appreciate your help.
new youtube policy. I have to edit manually after the fact and I was on a small vacation. we will do better. Cheers!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY oh, I didn't think it was you. I understand that these ads help you, I don't mind a couple, but this episode was rather frustrating, 😐. Thanks for your response, and I hope you had a lovely escape. Cheer to you!
How can you or want to tie exhaust fan into wet vent, is it because it was going to open sump pump? Otherwise you would never want to due so because of sewer gases, smell or methane back thru fan... Must of been an exception ?
Just because it was done does not mean it is acceptable. remember this building was rebuilt after a fire and that means very little inspections.
I really want to move my laundry from the interior wall of the basement to external wall of the basement.
I was wondering if you'd address the price of that wire! 6/3 here in Atlanta is $529 for 125 feet. Last big wiring item before the kitchen is done, so I'm hoping the price comes down! Looking forward to the Saniflo video, that's what we're using for the kitchen sink.
don't bet on a price reduction. housing shortage will keep the demand high.
These types of instructional videos can be used for years, but pricing becomes obsolete almost right away.
I love when he shows his mistakes cause…. Boy do I mess up 😅. 👍🏽
being handy means being able to fix the mistakes. Perfect every time. Cheers!
I noticed that you didn't take the product sku code label off of the reducer when you glued it together @ 15:00. Does it matter?
not at all it responds to the solvent and makes a perfect seal. Cheers!
What is the tool that you are using to cut the pvc pipe?
Jeffs the kinda guy that would like split neutrals *each phase uses 1 neutral instead of 2. It saves money on wire, just can't use it with in panel GFCI's.
why the 1 ½” ABS standpipe vice a 2" PVC sch 40 standpipe??? Though UPC required the 2" PVC no more then 30" long...
Thanks
Safety first. Eye protection when you use your saw please.
I had an inspector do a yank test but it wasn't on anything he was there to inspect, then he kept itching his palms??