18:17 invoked a strong feeling inside of me. I’m currently listening while folding brochures for my work place, and when I heard Jenna talk at that time stamp, i felt my body sink from relief. I laughed then started tearing up. Because this is exactly what I’ve needed to hear- it’s light a light bulb going off in my head. I cant explain the amount of relief I felt just now. Thank you so much for your videos- I don’t know where I would be without them.
Love this, I got back to the gym about a month ago. The first time i went i literally just did a few curls, but the night before last I managed to do a full hour with a trainer giving me some pretty difficult workouts ... Well difficult for me anyway 😅. I love how creative we can be with introceptive exposures. I noticed that when i became anxious i would become really aware of the souls of my feet so I put vapour rub (Vick) on them to expose myself to that sensation. I then took every scary sensation i had and found a different excersise for it, it really helps. We can make allot of progress very fast with inteoceptive excercises. Thanks again for everything you guys are doing 👏
Very interesting how some of it seems so obvious, but we never stop to take the time to do the work we know we need to do, because we know that it'll put us in an uncomfortable situation. I don't know how many times I've gone to the store for 'exposure'. When, in reality, I could expose myself to the feelings that scare me the most and work through it that way.
Lifting today for the first time in two months...so absurd that this was something that I did as a stress release before I struggled with "anxiety" and now I'm having to take baby steps getting back into it. Whatever, the only way to get to the other side is to move through it.
Expect to feel things when you do this. Do not fall into the trap of declaring failure when you do. And its totally OK to take it slow when getting back into it. Everyone starts that way.
@@TheAnxiousTruth Ha! Have you videos on heart sensations and cardiacphobia? I could relate to the video made where you said you felt you were “slipping away”, it’s a terrifying feeling but once you understand it, it subsides. My biggest fear is the chest flutter or throat oesophagus “dropping” feeling especially after eating. Thanks for reading! Regards A
Thanks for all you do, can’t thank you enough. This is random but any tips for fighting off calling an ambulance? Even if I know it’s panic it feels impossible to avoid calling
There is an element of courage always so at some point we run out of "tips" and we're faced with "don't call", which has no technique to it and is based in being brave and taking what feels like a huge risk on an emotional level. One thing you can try is to delay that call. When you're sure you need to call, set a timer for 5 minutes. Timer's done? Then call ... or do you still have to? Try another 5 minutes. That's one approach you can take but setting that timer and taking that leap of faith for 5 minutes comes down to just doing that and finding the courage to do that. I hope this helps.
Regarding more of the hyperstimulation anxiety, i've noticed that others say that you should mostly if not only do light, easy exercises like long walks, leisure biking amd swimming because vigorous exercise stresses the body more an can hinder the recovery process in terms of physiological symptoms. What is your opinion on this?
I tend to generally disagree with that because "I have to take it easy when anxious" is affirming that you are incapable of handling anxiety. Let me repeat - GENERALLY. There is nuance. There is a reason why I say that going from totally terrified to exercise to running a marathon in two weeks is a bad idea. Its perfectly OK to start with light, gentle movement. The object of the movement is to learn that its safe for your body to produce sensations like increased heart rate, perspiration, or rapid breathing. The movement is designed to help us practice handling and allowing sensations that feel a lot like anxiety.
I like going to the gym. My excercise induced anxiety stems from the heightened state. So, I lock into that heightened state for about 30 hours. Sleeping is very difficult. The next day, I have the shortness of breath. It can be incapacitating, but usually, it is extremely unconfortable. Work performance, and cognitive skills go down to 20 percent. Anxiety reactions to events, people go up 4x. Where can I find info on this? Treating this? Dealing with this? Thank you.
This is that fear of fear thing. Going to the gym creates a physical state that would be expected and even desired - especially if you like the gym. When you walk out of the gym, I'm guessing that you then become totally focused on your heart, your breathing, and how your body feels because you're afraid of those things. You can find info on that in all the content I publish. If I am hearing you correctly, you are describing what most people that listen to my podcast, watch my videos, or read my books also describe.
This was so amazing. Coincidentally I have Epilepsy, so I have had seizures in the past. It is now controlled with medication. When my health anxiety was at its worst I would always tell anyone who would listen that I “felt” like I was going to have a seizure. However it is that I thought that “felt” I can’t even explain now. I am still working through learning to live with the sensations and treat them as unimportant. I’ve got the dizzy thing, ugh. My question is, even though I continue moving (took up daily walks a couple weeks back), my mind is still telling me how dizzy and scared I am right before and right after I walk every day. If I continue to not physically react will my brain eventually let go even though the thoughts are still there? It hasn’t stopped me from walking, but the thoughts about the dizziness are still there… I hope this made sense…. Thank you both, this was very needed!
A couple of weeks is not very long. Be patient with yourself. That threat response is easy to trigger, but hard to turn off. And thinking about dizziness is just thinking, so remember that when you have those thoughts. Good job getting started on the walks! :-)
5 month ago i had a panic attack out of nowhere in the car where i suddenly couldnt breathe anymore and after that i thought i cant go to the gym anymore cause its gonna be even more hard to breathe. So i did not work out for like 1 month. But i needed to go back cause i was scared of losing muscles more than of anxiety and just went. I felt dizzy af and had to go to the toilet a couple times but i pull through every workout completly. When im done and go home i feel like so good for the rest of the day and night like i never had anxiety like someone changed my brain with anonter one 😂 but next day its mostly back to scanning how i feel and start feeling kinda bad again. Its been 5 months now since it all started and i had like 2 months inbetween where i was actually feeling kinda normal again idk why it started again maybe its the winter time here in germany its all gray no sun at all and makes me go back to being anxious and sad and weird automaticly
It can feel frustrating when that big win feeling is gone the next day. But unfortunately that's why consistent work is so important in this process. That's a huge drag, but we just can't turn off that over sensitized threat response with one good gym session or one big exposure. It would be awesome if we could, but it doesn't work that way. Its OK to feel frustrated and impatient, but be careful about drawing critical or catastrophic conclusions when you feel anxious again the next day. That's just how the process plays out for pretty much everyone.
@@TheAnxiousTruth i went 2 month straight to the gym but Now i had a weird dizziness attack late at night and i wasnt even axious at that moment and next week i go to the Hospital to probably get brainscan mri cause i really question slowly if its really a mental Thing when this weird Things happen even if im Not anxouis
Because you are afraid to faint so you want Drew to confirm that it won't happen to you, right? I know for most reading my reply here this will sound cold, but Dean you know your history of frantically seeking information and assurance when it comes to fainting.
I had all kinds of muscle twitches while I was struggling. But in the end no symptom is special and in need of special discussion because they're all the same and your assertion that twitches are scariest is no different than the assertion of someone who will insist that feeling dizzy is by far the worst symptom. That's why you can't find discussion of every possible sensation. There are just too many to list one by one.
@@TheAnxiousTruth Thank you for your reply, didn't expect it. I have to say this video is helpful but as a health anxiety sufferer, knowing other people have my symptoms (Twitching and hypnic jerks) and are fine after years really soothes me... So I guess I was just reassurance seeking
18:17 invoked a strong feeling inside of me. I’m currently listening while folding brochures for my work place, and when I heard Jenna talk at that time stamp, i felt my body sink from relief. I laughed then started tearing up. Because this is exactly what I’ve needed to hear- it’s light a light bulb going off in my head. I cant explain the amount of relief I felt just now.
Thank you so much for your videos- I don’t know where I would be without them.
Awwww love this. Jenna does have a way with this stuff for sure!
Just loved her! She hit so many points that were spot on!! Thanks as always for such helpful content❤️
Such helpful info!! Thank You, Drew and Jenna
Glad it was helpful! Jenna totally rocks! :-)
"genuinly faking it" I love that!
Seriously. Faking it really is part of this equation at some point!
Love this, I got back to the gym about a month ago. The first time i went i literally just did a few curls, but the night before last I managed to do a full hour with a trainer giving me some pretty difficult workouts ... Well difficult for me anyway 😅.
I love how creative we can be with introceptive exposures. I noticed that when i became anxious i would become really aware of the souls of my feet so I put vapour rub (Vick) on them to expose myself to that sensation. I then took every scary sensation i had and found a different excersise for it, it really helps. We can make allot of progress very fast with inteoceptive excercises.
Thanks again for everything you guys are doing 👏
What about shortness of breath and heat intolerance
What an interesting podcast episode. Thank you both!
You're very welcome. :-)
Great podcast!
Thanks Julie. :-)
Thanks❤
So cool you have Jenna with you this time! :D
Does she have a channel? there's no links to her.
Jenna doesn't have a RUclips channel but you can find her in Instagram
instagram.com/jenna.overbaugh
@@TheAnxiousTruth Thankyou
Very interesting how some of it seems so obvious, but we never stop to take the time to do the work we know we need to do, because we know that it'll put us in an uncomfortable situation.
I don't know how many times I've gone to the store for 'exposure'. When, in reality, I could expose myself to the feelings that scare me the most and work through it that way.
Those sensations are at your fingertips all the time. Excellent observation! :-)
Lifting today for the first time in two months...so absurd that this was something that I did as a stress release before I struggled with "anxiety" and now I'm having to take baby steps getting back into it.
Whatever, the only way to get to the other side is to move through it.
Expect to feel things when you do this. Do not fall into the trap of declaring failure when you do. And its totally OK to take it slow when getting back into it. Everyone starts that way.
I can say when I workout it causes me to have worse inflammation from my panic and anxiety
What do you suggest to handle palpitations (heart ectopics) both at rest and on exercising, assuming cardiologists have ruled out anything serious?
Good video. Any guitar vids!
You might not want to hold your breath waiting for one of those. LOL
@@TheAnxiousTruth Ha! Have you videos on heart sensations and cardiacphobia? I could relate to the video made where you said you felt you were “slipping away”, it’s a terrifying feeling but once you understand it, it subsides. My biggest fear is the chest flutter or throat oesophagus “dropping” feeling especially after eating.
Thanks for reading!
Regards A
Podcast EP 085: Heart Anxiety & Interoceptive Exposure (Dec 2019)
ruclips.net/video/_Rn0fvspGMk/видео.html
Also I did a video on Cardiophobia for my Instagram subscribers on Saturday
@@TheAnxiousTruth thank you
Thanks for all you do, can’t thank you enough. This is random but any tips for fighting off calling an ambulance? Even if I know it’s panic it feels impossible to avoid calling
There is an element of courage always so at some point we run out of "tips" and we're faced with "don't call", which has no technique to it and is based in being brave and taking what feels like a huge risk on an emotional level. One thing you can try is to delay that call. When you're sure you need to call, set a timer for 5 minutes. Timer's done? Then call ... or do you still have to? Try another 5 minutes. That's one approach you can take but setting that timer and taking that leap of faith for 5 minutes comes down to just doing that and finding the courage to do that. I hope this helps.
Regarding more of the hyperstimulation anxiety, i've noticed that others say that you should mostly if not only do light, easy exercises like long walks, leisure biking amd swimming because vigorous exercise stresses the body more an can hinder the recovery process in terms of
physiological symptoms. What is your opinion on this?
I tend to generally disagree with that because "I have to take it easy when anxious" is affirming that you are incapable of handling anxiety. Let me repeat - GENERALLY. There is nuance. There is a reason why I say that going from totally terrified to exercise to running a marathon in two weeks is a bad idea. Its perfectly OK to start with light, gentle movement. The object of the movement is to learn that its safe for your body to produce sensations like increased heart rate, perspiration, or rapid breathing. The movement is designed to help us practice handling and allowing sensations that feel a lot like anxiety.
I like going to the gym. My excercise induced anxiety stems from the heightened state. So, I lock into that heightened state for about 30 hours. Sleeping is very difficult. The next day, I have the shortness of breath. It can be incapacitating, but usually, it is extremely unconfortable. Work performance, and cognitive skills go down to 20 percent. Anxiety reactions to events, people go up 4x. Where can I find info on this? Treating this? Dealing with this?
Thank you.
This is that fear of fear thing. Going to the gym creates a physical state that would be expected and even desired - especially if you like the gym. When you walk out of the gym, I'm guessing that you then become totally focused on your heart, your breathing, and how your body feels because you're afraid of those things. You can find info on that in all the content I publish. If I am hearing you correctly, you are describing what most people that listen to my podcast, watch my videos, or read my books also describe.
This was so amazing. Coincidentally I have Epilepsy, so I have had seizures in the past. It is now controlled with medication. When my health anxiety was at its worst I would always tell anyone who would listen that I “felt” like I was going to have a seizure. However it is that I thought that “felt” I can’t even explain now. I am still working through learning to live with the sensations and treat them as unimportant. I’ve got the dizzy thing, ugh. My question is, even though I continue moving (took up daily walks a couple weeks back), my mind is still telling me how dizzy and scared I am right before and right after I walk every day. If I continue to not physically react will my brain eventually let go even though the thoughts are still there? It hasn’t stopped me from walking, but the thoughts about the dizziness are still there… I hope this made sense…. Thank you both, this was very needed!
A couple of weeks is not very long. Be patient with yourself. That threat response is easy to trigger, but hard to turn off. And thinking about dizziness is just thinking, so remember that when you have those thoughts. Good job getting started on the walks! :-)
@@TheAnxiousTruth thanks, as always, I appreciate all you do.
5 month ago i had a panic attack out of nowhere in the car where i suddenly couldnt breathe anymore and after that i thought i cant go to the gym anymore cause its gonna be even more hard to breathe. So i did not work out for like 1 month. But i needed to go back cause i was scared of losing muscles more than of anxiety and just went. I felt dizzy af and had to go to the toilet a couple times but i pull through every workout completly. When im done and go home i feel like so good for the rest of the day and night like i never had anxiety like someone changed my brain with anonter one 😂 but next day its mostly back to scanning how i feel and start feeling kinda bad again. Its been 5 months now since it all started and i had like 2 months inbetween where i was actually feeling kinda normal again idk why it started again maybe its the winter time here in germany its all gray no sun at all and makes me go back to being anxious and sad and weird automaticly
It can feel frustrating when that big win feeling is gone the next day. But unfortunately that's why consistent work is so important in this process. That's a huge drag, but we just can't turn off that over sensitized threat response with one good gym session or one big exposure. It would be awesome if we could, but it doesn't work that way. Its OK to feel frustrated and impatient, but be careful about drawing critical or catastrophic conclusions when you feel anxious again the next day. That's just how the process plays out for pretty much everyone.
@@TheAnxiousTruth i went 2 month straight to the gym but Now i had a weird dizziness attack late at night and i wasnt even axious at that moment and next week i go to the Hospital to probably get brainscan mri cause i really question slowly if its really a mental Thing when this weird Things happen even if im Not anxouis
Hi Drew have you ever fainted. Jenna when you had the seizure was it different to other anxiety fuelled symptoms?
Because you are afraid to faint so you want Drew to confirm that it won't happen to you, right? I know for most reading my reply here this will sound cold, but Dean you know your history of frantically seeking information and assurance when it comes to fainting.
wow im early
How come no one ever talks about muscle twitching........ This is by far the scariest symptom of all
I had all kinds of muscle twitches while I was struggling. But in the end no symptom is special and in need of special discussion because they're all the same and your assertion that twitches are scariest is no different than the assertion of someone who will insist that feeling dizzy is by far the worst symptom. That's why you can't find discussion of every possible sensation. There are just too many to list one by one.
@@TheAnxiousTruth Thank you for your reply, didn't expect it. I have to say this video is helpful but as a health anxiety sufferer, knowing other people have my symptoms (Twitching and hypnic jerks) and are fine after years really soothes me... So I guess I was just reassurance seeking