GPU Prices to CRASH, but what happens after....?
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- Опубликовано: 22 апр 2024
- Macro Economics and tech prices? What do these two have in common? Well quite a lot, and in today's video we discuss why prices on certain products have bottomed and why GPU prices in particular could come down a short period of time, before inevitably going up again.
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If GPU prices went to crash...some supervillain will make it rise again
That villains name is Jensen Huang
@@SimisearOfficial - The leather jacket is the give away!
Jensen *Cough Huang
nvidia, amd. Also retailers like microcenter, bestbuy,bhphoto, adorama, will become scalpers when those prices increase beyond the msrp. It is mind boggling that instead of staying at msrp, they become sharks themselves. It’s a vicious cycle. The only way to stop it is to not buy anything from them. It’s a tall order but it is the only way to show disapproval of the prices.
look at the retailers following scalper prices, it’s just disgusting. Wait till you see 5090 pricing.
Gpu price will never “CRASH”. Nvidia will just nerf its inventory and price will maintain.
They said it already if consumer GPUs are not selling well they just reduce production and shift it to enterprise and ai solutions. They pretty much do anything they want by now.
@@kerotomas1 exactly lol, they'll just focus less on gamers. Enterprise makes them so much more money with AI
Nvidia are pros at this nonsense but also their fanboys cape so hard about it generation after generation
It just gets to the point that they're not worth making and shipping.
Yep, they'll do absolutely everything and anything to keep those prices inflated
even if prices are down, your rent is up, your services bills are up, and so on
so you have less to spend
That's probably WHY they're down. People can afford less nowadays
@@rodiculous9464 they could stand to fall more.
Gpu Prices TO CRASH , BUT i still no money :(
Please save us frome all the monies? 😱
I wouldn't even call it a crash because they were already marked up 500% to begin with, and they will still be overinflated even when the crash kicks in
It's like when retailers mark up their prices the following week and use the term "sale" to market it and lure u in, and when the sales price kicks in, that was what it retailed for a month ago
Same here, my grocery store sells 1 mango for around 80 cents then does a 2 for 1.50 lol its basically the same thing.@@lldjslim
Agreed @@lldjslim
You need to stop being poor!
Time for Brian to be a guest to the TECHonomics podcast
Love these classes, professor
Man you're so good at this now, really interesting all the way through
Bryan's opinions on finance are pretty spot on. I have been seeing 4090's on the shelf here in Japan lately. Top tier cards have a tendency to be available on shelf just before the haircuts begin. Crossing my fingers!!
Thanks brian... great macro information for Gpu hunting....just like buying summer clothes in winter, hopefully Gpu cheaper over June July
No worries, I personally like buying winter clothes in summer however :P
Good video as always 👍
Thanks for the great video always enjoy the economic analysis videos you make thanks for putting in all the effort very useful and informative 🙂
We can thank all the scalpers for the high prices in the late 2020's when supply was low and people were asking for top-dollar for GPU's.. The companies saw this an realized they could charge a lot more. I bet the prices will remain high from now on unless people stop buying, which wont happen anytime soon.
I'm pretty sure it has already started though, people aren't buying new GPU's like they were.
I wouldn't even call it a crash because they were already marked up 500% to begin with, and they will still be overinflated even when the crash kicks in
It's like when retailers mark up their prices the following week and use the term "sale" to market it, and when the sales price kicks in, that was what it retailed for about a month ago
And bit coin crypto currency
Why pay $1000 Plus for a GPU ? To play a New Game ? 🤪
@@ArKay-nj2nh Right? It's just stupid. That's exactly why I haven't.
Even if prices fall, people are still broke.
I always enjoy you’re vids when you talk about finances
Thank you for the video and your teachings.
The tech world, mainly hardware was one of the main reasons I started being interested in economics.
Your techonomics series made this such a smooth transition for me and a great help right about the time I started learning. Having a familiar market as a case study made it easier to get hang of things.
2021 and 2022 was a first hand global economics fiasco for all of us. Lots of lessons to be learned.
Yup 2020 was when I was very confused, started to seek answers. I am now quite confident I have found them. Glad you enjoyed this video.
Sifting thru my YT feed with a cup of fresh joe... lookie here GPU prices to drop? Alrighty, just upgraded to a 4K monitor and my RTX3060 isn't cutting it anymore. Let's see what TYC is thinking might happen. What? A macro-economics lesson! (pause video, make another press of joe...) Not sure if I'd consider that 'bonus content' or not but you did encapsulate it nicely to back up your guesses. Bit of a departure for ya. Will be worth checking your stats to see how many views make it thru the whole thing I'd expect. Pretty solid reasoning tho, you did your homework and get a deserved thumbs up.
i gotta say, after watching this last week and seeing CPU prices hitting even lower this week is wild. Make more of these videos!
hi sorry to go off topic. i have a question. i would like to get a computer upgrade. but i am the worse at picking out the best parts for my build. would you know of a website that i could put in the my budget of my build say like 3,000 usd and the site would pick out all the best parts for a build. like it would this is the best gpu that it has most memort it it is fast so on with say cpu,memory,ssd and so on and also have like here are some options that are better for abit more money. maybe there is not website like it wish was one.
What happens after is that Bryan goes on a shopping spree!
macrolicious economics.
but this also feelslike an oft repeated cycle of old stock being cleared and new rehashed iterations of produce being mainstaged by resellers. the 2020's as a 70's analog. but there are ev's now amongst other differences too depressing to mention . :-D
Fed probably won't cut interest rates as inflation is up in February and March
UK Holiday deals and a bit of Summer sun and fun. Can see PC parts dropping if the Half Board, self catering, all inclusive hols aboard prices stay lower in the hotter regions.
Nice Snake Man remix at the end. Am off to play Mega Man 3 now.
Currency is another one that has amazed me of late. I just withdrew a handsome sum from the bank for an apartment renovation and was surprised that the BANK exchange rate was 1 Swiss Franc to 1 Euro. Wow, both the USD and the EURO have tanked. Good for me...but it does give shivers down my spine as it relates to the overall global economic situation. I can recall when it was over 1.6 Swiss Francs to 1 Euro.
Great techonomics video. GPU deals, I feel this gen I've gotten a 4090 for MSRP (might not be considered amazing but am personally happy with that), 7900XTX and 7800XT below. Am still on 12th gen, so other than perhaps turning off Asus MCE and checking limits (did the recent BIOS update), I think this is a 13th/14th gen problem that BIOS updates could fix in the future. It seems that the Asus MCE settings etc are a bit agressive but not just Asus, 3 of the mb vendors have similar settings, it's not a lone vendor thing.
10:34 This is true. I own hundreds of GPUs from the last 25 years and I've never had so much attention from the ladies.
Marco are you perhaps seeing increased attention from the ladies cause you turned down the wrong alleyway? ;)
Mmmm, sexy boy, I'll trade you 3... 1070's for your dusty 3070 here.. three 1070's will sparkle more with their holographic graphics on your wall of GPUs than this boring black EVGA 3070...
@Tech YES City is it worth changing to a Nvidia GPU if I got a AMD RX 6600 8GB card?
Great analysis. I would be curious to get your thoughts on what will happen when the US reprices gold to 10k to 20k oz usd. It's going to happen... Just watch
Back when the 40 series was announced, the 3090 price dropped like a rock for a month before going back up.I saw a retail 3090ti FE for only $1,000 at the lowest.
Mining also was starting to wane but was still unknown if it would continue or not.
I’d want the scalpers to go bust.
I grabbed a ASUS Tuf RTX 4070 in canada for 600 dollars new.
If you can find deals you will see gpus dropping in prices.
...and to think end of last year there was forecast talk there would be 2 to 3 rate cuts this year in Aus --> KEKW
I don't expect the prices on graphics cards to go down anytime soon. Especially the high end cards.
Nvidia is going to launch the next gen 5090 at either the same MSRP as the 4090 or double down and increase it to $1999,-.
They have no competition.
I think i am good for a while with my Aorus 3070 display card. 8gb more then enough for full hd. Its a beautiful card also, still running strong.
Good man. You listened to us and delivered the show we wanted .
i am looking at building a new pc at the end of this year i have got 2 build list one AMD one intel has there been any problems with the i7-14700K
Tech-City Economics great stuff. Some food doubled in price where I live, rent is higher, gas price is higher and I don't have enough left to upgrade my PC. I doing ok with a RTX 3060 12 GB, basically can play all games right now. I focus more on older games rather than triple A flops. But really excited to get Ghost of Tsushima next month 😉
You hope that central banks have learned and won’t repeat the mistakes of the 70s but I doubt it. So many people are screaming for lower interest rates at least here in Sweden interest rates are expected to drop in May or June and continue dropping for the foreseeable future. Because household debt is so high here and people are screaming for lower interest rates.
9:10 Literally just dropped 200 usd on R5 7500F + B650 upgrade 😁
The only thing that is likely going to crash this year is the financial market around summertime with the way the yield curve and reverse repurchase agreements are looking.
Please YESonomics, give me some of that sweet, sweet ear candy and tell me housing prices/rents are going to go down. I know it's a lie, but i need to hear it anyway.
In aus I don't see them coming down anytime soon unfortunately brother. I think the US has seen some drops in prices recently? Ultimately very sticky topic that I would need to dig deeper into. However I spoke with a few people during my life, they all told me the same thing. That is the RBA (in australia) and most of gov have their hands deep in real estate, so they will do what they can to keep prices up here....
Tech Yes Economics!
the 7900xtx asus tuff only 1400 aud thats pretty good and the 4090 blow 3k now
If you're on AM4, the 5700X3d (Acient Gamplays has a video on it) is Elite in terms of value right now. $230 vs about $350 for a 5800x3D with comparable performance in games.
Get the 3D chip on your current platform and save up for the next 4070/4080/4090 price dip.
Won't go past a 4070 ti rest are not safe
We're back to the kind of market that was around when I first started building my own machines vs upgrading christmas gift pre-builts. Like 2005-2008. I would buy one or two generation old (new - tray CPU) and get a screamin deal. Like $150-$250 for board and chip.
I just wish any of it was happening with HEDT. Instead they want us to pay twice as much for Lite Workstation. I just want 16 cores, quad channel memory and 48 PCIE lanes without paying more than 1200-1500 max. I'm not being unreasonable here.
i really hope the prices will crash . my friend is still using a 1060 6GB . i've been advising him to wait as long as possible before getting a new pc . he wants to go triple screen 4k for simracing. a 4090 is what he would need and be a little futureproof . i advised him to wait at least till 50 series are being launched .
Tbh i picked up a 4060 ..i know 8gb but i game 1080p but the price i got it for at the time was a steal
I would have picked up the 6750xt for $330 which has 12GB VRAM and will outperform the 4060 by about 10% and in higher resolutions even more.
If the 4060 was called the 4050 then I would been okay with it
When will the 250 buck midrange card return?
Here in NZ the used market is flooded with 3070 cards. Miners are dumping them on TradeMe and Facebook marketplace.
Came for the tech, stayed for knowledge bombs 💣 👌 😎
Why NVME Prices Gone Up in Past Few Months ? Samsung 970 Evo plus was 74$ for 2 TB now it's over 125$ or 130$ which is insane. Even AMD 7000 CPU is Not Available in Amazon like 7800x3d and 7700x ETC .
at the end of last year, Samsung and Hynix said they're scaling back on Flash chips and DDR4 DRAM chips. The only thing the media outlets are wrong about is DDR5 DRAM production, which is still at full scale.
i bought a 12400f off aliexpress a month ago for $83 US
Just a when next gen is around the corner. If you waited guess you can wait that little bit more.
I'll believe it when it happens ( and upgrade my pc)
Man, I am the same, I have the same problem, have an RX 580 that slaughters everything I play, I know it's old and bad, but I really have no need for anything better.
I should have gotten that over my 1060 6gb, but similarly I dont play gpu-bound games
I'm so happy with fsr, otherwise this card was obsolete in new games.
I would say as long as you are not playing new games it’s fine.
However I would try and upgrade that RX 580 soon. Right now on Amazon for $380 the XFX Speedster SWFT319 ,Radeon™ RX 6800 is a good value right now. It has 16GB VRAM and performs little faster than the 7700XT. However you do lose AV1 and display port 2.1 by going that routes. If you find those important and want bit efficiency, longer driver support, and are okay with 12GB VRAM which should be fine for max 1080p gaming for 3-4 years than spend the extra $20 get that GPU
Either way Both GPUs listed will outperform the RX 580 by around 200% according to UserBenchMark. Meaning that you will gain a huge performance bump
@@AnonymousUser-ww6ns I would say as long as you play new games you're fine. The new games have the up-scaling tech that keeps that hardware going.
Seems like you should do a 12400 build for the 100 buck price
current low price on a 4080 is 999.00 and that's for a super.. the list price on the click bait was 1499.99 .. typical 1899.99- where did you get those prices ?
I agree, I saw stock for 999 4080S dropped. But I had grabbed a 4090 for MSRP earlier. The partner cards some of them are still decently above MSRP. The only gripe is the 12VHWPR connector size, but I am running open case in my 7000D Airflow and can buy the addon cable for about 17 from Super Flower if I want it to look better.
Doesn't matter if they drop or not, after all i got an rx 7900 xtx new for 750$.
Hope I can grab a cheap 7800 XT or 7900 GRE soon, the 8000 series looks like a complete disappointment.
If the 8000 series has better price and better ray tracing performance then I would consider it a win.
@@AnonymousUser-ww6ns yeah, but it's just sad that they aren't even trying to compete with the 5090. They can't even match the 4090.
The are gona do power push with the 9000 one like the xtx one
The Creature From Jekyll Island will die this year. It is already profusely bleeding out.
If it was a business it would be insolvent already lol.
Gotta love government inflation charts which show them as a % and not metric of change over a base line.
Looks like inflations gone down, but you need deflation for that, we only have inflation so the number keeps rising even though it looks like its shrinking.
You have $100 and someone gives you $100 more you have $200.
You have 100% more money, however if that person than gives you another $100 you have tripled your original amount, however you now have only gained 50% more money this time around.
Metric of change are deceptive.
It's like comics industry. More GPUs than PCs out there. So, at the end, little shops will be broken 💔.
Melting connector discount?
The only chance for a price crash is if Intel Battlemage blows up the market with a huge leap in price to performance. AMD and especially Nvidia can just shift production over to AI and server solutions to keep up the margins. (By the way Nvidia already reduced higher end GPU production instead of price cuts as the demand is pretty low)
emmm where ? i can't see ))) just check the price still the same in EU
Don’t do that. Don’t give me hope…….
I really hate it how cerain outlers talk about $1000+ GPUs and monitors as "good value for money"
Funny how those people are pretty well of and probably doesn't know what it's like when you have to think about what you spend your hard earned money on.
The age of AI I think will cause a lot of pain to the lower levels as well. Lot of tech lay offs. Been a few redundancies lately as well in the consultancy sector. Our government is about to make tax changes which will give a lot of people a few extra dollars a year. Our government at least appears to be thinking about the lower class.
🙂 on another channel theres a glut of mining rigs being dismantled which means a flood of more ex mining video cards that you can pickup for cheap, i see invidia 2000 and 3000 series among the boxes so don't overpay for those older cards, shouldnt affect prices of amd 7000 and invidia 4000 tho but the older stuff definitely, you also have a large new stock of used refurbished video cards at Microcenter stores that you should check out, its really safe to buy a used card from Microcenter cause you can take it home and do a full benchtest on the card and if it fails u can simply take it back to the store and either exchange it for another card or just get a full refund
I agree Mirco Center gives you 30 days to try out the refurbished GPUs. It you don’t like it return or exchange no questions asked.
I would trust Mirco Center more than EBay users.
All i know is that I'm staying with my AM4 systems and rtx 3080 cards (my work machines) until death do us part. Its all too expensive for impulsive upgrades
I dont need high end gpu, I can watch the bangs / $ each gen and wait for an increase.
I snagged an rx 6650 recently used for £150, it wont get much better than that for a long time.
10:25 Those are not real couples, it was an advertising campaign made by a famous computer shop here in Thailand.
The woman in these ads is a famous heavily silicon-modified Thai model lol
might upgrade my GTX 1080 to a 4060 if prices do come down.
My head says YES YES but my Wallet says NO NO!
Waiting for the shopping spree after this😂😂
Let's wait until prices are 66% down, which would be an adequate level ..
😃 yay Deflation FTW
The Biggest Cost of price is Shipping.
In 2000's you could ship a container 40ft from China to Canada for $7000 usb.
Now it costs $40k usd.
It's not worth while making stuff in Asia any longer. Yes you can have it made cheap, but to ship it here is a killer.
What do you expect usa 😂
@@Oliver-sn4be
I'm not in USA.
China's economy crashing prices dropping like anvils.
Solar panels 40% price cut and falling, no one buying electric cars there.
Huge Zdeflation, Greed has caught up with the jerks.
Will come to NA.
Dealers charging sticker price etc. Crash coming, big one.
wait 6 7 month then you will have a price war becouse both intel Amd an nvidia is out with their new card an all of them want the marked so the price will drop if not you will get a better product for the same money as now,
Wait...these type of channels still exist?
I'm very happy with the $93 Ryzen 5 5500
Gpu prices have to fall due to AI. 😅 It should be cheaper to create graphics cards in the future. I am definitely buying an amd 5900x when the price drops a little more.
Here in the Philippines, based on my experience recently, I sold my RTX 2080 for about USD$200. I originally priced it at US$300 so I can get the potential buyers of the RTX3060 but nobody is buying it at that price range and so I lowered my price for weeks, US$25 less each week that passes by and just now I sold it w/c is great that I sold it but sad that I had to lower it that much.
Just picked up a 4070 Super for $1000AUD. Upgrading from a 3070.
I would never pay that much for a GPU.
Can't say I expected to hear a tech tuber talk about the cantillon effect. I have been using an old machine and have also reached the conclusion that it's time to build. Another consideration is the geopolitical situation. I think the middle east is going to heat up which will probably drive up oil and shopping costs making everything go up in price. Exactly like the 1970s as well!
I've been delving into the world of finance quite heavily since 2020, things made no sense, needed answers and now I am definitely doing better off in this race of madness.
I'll be rocking this 12400f + rtx 3060 till it doesn't let me play the games I want. Which is basically helldivers and siege......so I won't be upgrading anytime soon lol
Inflation or not for look at cpu and gpu market for 10 years ago.
I the 90's every new cpu put the 6 month old to garbage.
Now a 10 years cpu can do the job, and a 7 years old gpu too.
An i7-2600k and a 1080ti and you play anything at 1080p high - ultra at 60 fps.
So except enthusiast user who want 144fps gaming the 95% who want 60 fps can just wait.
Definitely not anything, anything before 2018 then yes but passed that no
AMD is moving stock of 7800x3D before 9000-series launch, they aren't lowering prices because Intel is competetive.
When the yen is worth less than toilet paper, everything is getting more expensive...
"Tug of war"???
What is it???
Oh it's a rope game where both sides are pulling each way to win, so there is usually a constant back and forth.
I’m waiting for gpu with ai technology either way
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GPU price drops dont really happen outside of some countries unfortunately
GPU's are vastly overpriced. Demand is not there. Hopefully the AI boom will flop too. 2023, saw lowest demand for 15 years.
The profit margins of Nvidia who have 78% market share, is absurd. 50 - 60%, which is far too high.
For GPU's that can barely do 4K 60?!!!
When a PS5, can deliver a high percentage of what Nvidia offers? For like £479.99 in the UK, or less. For the entire box (yes, I know they were sold at a loss, but not now).
AI boom will just go higher!
There was just a news about AI run combat figters doing well in test!
Army will buy AI gpus by tons!
Same work everyone else. So Ai demand will at least douple this year! Most likely the rice will continue several years! Unlike fake money like cryptocoins, AI products are actually usefull in military, sciense, economy at home computers etc!
I thought ps5 could only run 1440p and anything 4k is just upscaling
@@nuffsaid7759 At that price does it matter? PC's are all about downscaling now anyways so you aren't even running native on a high end PC anymore.
@@pituguli5816 Downscaling seriously looks bad even dlss those that can deal with it have special eyes that doesn't see the blurriness and oversharpening
@@nuffsaid7759 That's my first response tbh, I can always tell when any form of downscaling is on because its blurry and over sharpened. Distanced objects always look blurry to me like low res well that's because it is low res.
There is no compensating when rendering the game from a lower resolution. It looks better with DLSS quality on a 4k panel but that's because DLSS quality is 1440p just on a 4k panel. 1440p panel DLSS quality looks terrible and 1080p DLSS quality is truly shocking. At that point just lower your resolution from 1440p to 1080p, no need for downscaling.
The problem with this is that it only happens in first world countries. In 3rd world countries, these price drops almost never happen. Whatever is the initial price, it usually stays that way
If the drop this is how the drop price go's up foe 50 or 100 euro then the make it chip foe 50 or 100 and end Sane price 😂 happens here
It's better to be single than buy a 4090 and PS5 just to impress a girl, lol. Those pics always crack me up. I mean I wouldn't pay that much for a gpu or console anyways, but it's funny to imagine that sort of thing impresses.
I just want to buy a used 6700XT :(
RTX 4090 price is going down by 10-20 USD every day or so
I don't think gpu prices are coming down, too much demand.