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Klingon Top Gun (Star Trek: Klingon Academy Review)
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- Опубликовано: 25 мар 2024
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Interesting that this should pop up on my feed today of all days. Some background to explain the good and bad of this game.
Originally it was to be a sequel of Starfleet Academy (the PC release) Not the SNES version which while similar, didn't really share a lot with the PC version. The same engine and mechanics were to be used with some tweaking. When development started it quickly became apparent that the old engine wouldn't work so changes were made; however, the release timeline was not as flexible as was needed. The "Ginsu" effects were added, all the new commands and controls, new ship models, etc... but the graphics were still limited due to resolution constraints. Then one day, I think it was Manny Salazar, came up with a brilliant way to scale up the graphics and break the original limitations which I think were 800 x 600. This opened up more possibilities but getting extensions on the schedule that original planned for a redress of Starfleet Academy" was not simple. So working literally around the clock the development team was adding planned features, working out bugs, smoothing out gameplay, etc... while the question was being posed "Do we just cancel the game?" as was done with "Vulcan Fury" around the same time. The reception of the demo and some live development testing bought some time but not much for completion of the game.
In the end the game went gold with known issues and already a patch being created to simply make the game as fully playable as possible even as the staff were pulled away or dismissed essentially as soon as the game released. I think the team knew all the bugs and fixes that needed to be done, they just didn't have the time to complete them. Another few months and I realy believe this game would have been a lot better.
Their were a bunch of Easter Eggs of course: You command the Bird of Prey from ST6 a couple times, you go up against a "simulated" Kirk commanded Enterprise, the whale probe is there somewhere, the planet killer, the brother of Colonel Worf (who defended Kirk and McCoy at their trial in ST6) is in there, there is an alien UFO that fires cows instead of torpedoes, a system that has the planet rotations and orbits cranked up really fast, Kang's last words are "I go to the 'Undiscovered Country from whose born no traveler returns.'", a direct reference to ST6 and at the same time him acknowledging his death and at the same time protecting you the character from what is to come.
I was going through cleaning out old computer disks today and getting rid of things that I haven't used in years and came across some development releases of Klingon Academy from back then and it brought back some memories. I know the guys worked really hard on this one against tight schedules, understaffing, and limited resources to try to make a really good Star Trek game and I guess it says something that 24 years later there are still people that speak well of it.
Wait a sec, you worked on the game? Dude this is an honor having you comment on my channel. And I'd like to thank you for all the hard work you and the team spent on this game. I specifically remember that fast spinning planet when I played this as a kid but couldn't find it again when I made this video. I just chalked it up to me remembering a really weird bug but you commenting just now confirms it was an Easter egg. So thanks once again and I hope one day Klingon Academy finds it's way to the GOG store for a brand new generation to finally play this game.
@@BenKii I did work with the team on this. As I mentioned before, the resources and staffing for this were limited (if you read through the credits you see the same names repeat several times). The interest in the demo helped keep the game alive but only bought so much time. In the credits you will find a list of people under "special thanks", there is a pretty long list. These, including myself with a misspelling were mostly people brought in as volunteers to do assist in various ways, mostly as kind of an extended testing/ troubleshooting of the internal testing. Kind of like beta testing but far more accelerated and in depth, more closely to the internal testing. This was before high speed internet so daily they would send out the current developer build for that day we would test for a day, document issues and often have a call late that night, early morning along with emails. This freed the team to work more on fixing the bugs than trying to identify everything as well as allowing the team to get input on feature changes and test across various PC's.
Even after 24 years I still stay in touch with some of the people although admittedly I haven't played the game in probably 22 or 23 years although maybe it is time to revisit as I know there were patches made to allow it to run on modern systems if you have the game (which I have seen on Ebay). Back in the day the disks frequently were un-readable at the start but worked fine after a light cleaning. To reduce wear, it was also possible to copy the disk contents to the local folders as well. This also prevented you from having to switch disks every few missions.
The fast spinning planets and fast orbits I think were part of a test on the physics of the solar systems that were just left in there at the end. In the game the planets do orbit and rotate, just at a much slower pace normally. It's been a long time and I don't recall where all the Easter eggs are but there was an effort to make exploring a fun addition, even if it didn't get filled out completely.
Also, chronologically this game has the first appearance of who would become Chancellor K'Mpec who would appear in episodes of TNG to decide between Duras and Gowron as the next leader.
As far as any future release, I honestly don't know. During the development the people working on the Star Trek games were broken off into 14 Degrees East which is the actual "company" the game was developed under, even though it was a part of Interplay. 14 degrees east didn't last long though as the bulk of several of the teams were dismissed or moved to other projects before being dismissed as soon as the games hit the shelves. The remains were bought by Taldren which didn't last long either. I think EA bought part of those remains but I don't know who has the rights at this point. The games on GOG from Interplay I think are from the "Interplay" developers and licenses. That's where my knowledge of what happened to 14 Degrees East ends.
Black Isle and the remains of Interplay that Titus held ended up back at Interplay and are the games I think currently distributed on GOG. I'll ask some of the guys to see if they know where the Klingon Academy rights ended up.
@@scottrikard9572 That's awesome! Thank you for sharing some of your inside knowledge of the game Mr. Rikard. :)
@@BenKii I did inquire as to who owns the rights currently from one of the people I still keep in touch with who might have a better idea than I. He believes Interplay still owns the rights to the code now and of course Paramount/ CBS to the Intellectual property. If that is the case, there is always a chance it could get released on GOG given that there have already been patches to make it work on new systems.
@@scottrikard9572 Hey, that's awesome news! Thanks for reaching out to your friends. I really do hope it will come to Gog soon. :)
My favorite moment playing this game back in the day was lining up a shot for a spread of torpedoes on a Federation ship who's shields I had pounded down, don't remember which one, and cutting loose. I was sure, I mean SURE, that this was going to end this ship which was a good thing because I was on my last leg. The Saucer section was flat on to me, perfect firing angle I thought. The first torpedo slams into the saucer, massive explosion, I began raising my voice in triumph... and then the rest of the torpedoes flew right THROUGH the massive hole in the Saucer the first torpedo had ripped. I had never seen damage modeling in a game before that wasn't cosmetic, it blew me away. By that I mean the ship turned around and blew me away.
10/10, would die for the empire again.
That was a cool battle story. Thanks for sharing.
I remember doing that too, get in close to the target, fire Torpedoes.....and miss, as the ship turns just enough that they pass the ship
Anyone like to see a full version of that Top Gun Star Trek crossover intro? Don't care about copyright claim. Just seems like something too cool to not upload.
HELL YEAH!!! Release the BenKii Cut! 😎
Well I finished it and I'll have it uploaded this Tuesday. Hope you like it. :)
@@BenKii 😁
No
Danger Zone with a Klingon BoP is just...perfect!
Christopher Plummer was a Trek Fan before even being cast. His daughter also... appeared in Trek.
Cool! 👍
In both cases, they stole the show.
Vadic was the best ST villain in ages.
Klingon Academy is the greatest Star Trek miniseries never broadcasted, yet sets up ST6 and even the TNG's Romulan Klingon animosity so well its almost a shame it was never actual miniseries. It even explains why Gorkon was willing to make peace, he knew the state of the Empire was in after War of the Usurper, then Praxis happened. Making peace with the UFP was the only way to insure the Empire survived period let alone into the TNG era.
One of the things I remember is that the enemy AI would usually hit my ship. I don't know if they are still around but there used to be lots of ship mods (TNG, DS9, Voyager era for example) that people made using a very expensive 3D program called Lightwave.
One of Chang's lines I remember is "I am not interested in the names of your Fathers nor in your families lineage. What I am interested in, is your breaking point."
Next Generation Academy Mod on moddb.
Contains tons of ship models for 24th century Star Trek shows.
TNG Worf was Worf, Son of Mogh, Son of Worf. He was named for his famous grandparent.
That logic is sound. 🖖
@@BenKii It's more than that. Michael Dorn played grandfather Worf in The Undiscovered Country. He's the Klingon Lawyer who defends Kirk at trial and then says "this is not Klingon blood" at the almost last scene when the Federation assassin (played by Odo, himself Rene O.) is killed.
@@dougwhiddon8227 Worf sure does get around.
@@BenKii Maybe he went back in time and became his own grandfather.
Colonel Worf is the father of Mogh who is the father of Worf.
Thats what i thought 🤔
@@leejeromejardinejohnson8431 Sort of like every male member of the House of Duras was named Duras.
That sounds about right.
@@BenKii The Original Duras was killed by Jonathan Archer in Star Trek Enterprise.
On one hand, this game is in desperate need of a competent remake. On the other hand, "competent" isn't really a word I associate with the modern gaming industry. "Faithful" isn't, either.
Which is a damn shame as ginsuing (that's how they called their ship destruction system iirc) ships with the whole power of a modern GPU dedicated to nothing but a few models on screen would be a spectacular sight, especially considering that the game as-is in all its ancient tech glory still has an undeniable wow factor. There just isn't anything like it.
Indeed that ginsuing stuff is freaking awesome! And what you said about modern gaming industry is so true but then I see the folks that gave us Star Wars Squadrons and I see how faithful that was to the X-wing vs Tie fighter series... It gives me hope for Klingon Academy.
itll be ruined, the actors are dead... and they wouldnt do a live action thing again... thats dead in gaming unfortunatly... what it needs is a remaster on a new engine but keep the original cut scenes
I got 30 seconds into the video and went, "Yup, this'll do", and subbed
I got so good at this game. Getting good at controlling power profiles really makes you lethal, same with knocking a top/bottom shield facing down and beaming over landing parties to wreak havoc (their heroic sacrifice will be remembered)
Oh the nostalgia!
It's wild that Plummer did this. RIP
Great-great-uncle Warf.
I LOVED this game!
Man I am telling you, there NEEDS to be a modern Stat Trek Bridge Commander/Capital Ship Simulator style game.
Oh this takes me back. I used to play online in a clan and had a lot of fun. I remember some Scottish guy being obsessed with the excelsior class in a rival clan.
I also remember you could mod any ship to fire while cloaked by a simple text edit. I learned that by looking at the text file for the bird of prey that could do it.
In my research for this game, I found out only Chang's ship in single player could fire while cloaked. But in multiplayer, that feature was removed. So that text editor was the only way to put cloaked firing ships in multiplayer.
@BenKii yep. His ship wasn't available in multi-player, natively but ofc you could mod it in.
The thing about the mods tho is if you modded in a new ship unless the other player(s) had the mod they couldn't see or detect it due to not having the ship files, but still suffer damage from its weapons.
Never played this game I got used to the Super Nintendo Starfleet Academy game. If I look around my office I'm pretty sure I can find the index card that I wrote down my save codes for a perfect Academy score on. I also remember cheesing the game and being able to spot the visual distortion of a cloaked ship and taking advantage of it. That is almost the only way to beat the big Romulan ship. It also makes the Undiscovered Country reenactment very different when you spot the distortion and blow up Chang before he gets through his monologue.
6:13 Here we can see this odd quirk of the AI I could never understand: enemy ships just _love_ to fly backwards in this game.
8:05 You can disable a subsystem in Bridge Commander as well. You could even slice a nacelle off, if you wanted.
Indeed you can destroy subsystems in Bridge Commander. I meant that the destructive decals are much more detailed in Klingon Academy. Bridge Commander can get close with mods but by itself I thought it was quite poor.
Man klingon academy was the bomb back in the day, I played tons of it, even online
Good times. 😎
I love this game. I played the hell out of the post-campaign combat sim. I never encountered many bugs. The one I do remember and found the most annoying is that both the Federation and Klingon Dreadnaughts had these "wave motion guns"; huge direct-fire energy weapons that did massive damage. The Federation's worked fine, but the Klingon ship's weapon never did anything.
I think the main disappointment for me is that, like all "playing the 'bad guy' " games, you just end up fighting yourselves. The campaign against the Federation is just training simulations. I wish that game makers would be brave enough to say screw it to canon and just take the games in different directions to complement the side that the player is playing for.
There are some cool easter eggs, too, in free exploration. If you go to Jupiter, you can find a literal flying saucer with a couple green bug-eyed aliens in the cockpit. It's fast and tough, but can be destroyed. There is also a small planetoid named Mingo, and if you go there, you can encounter the war-rocket Ajax from the 1980 Flash Gordon movie.
Klingon Academy is a Masterpiece
I'm not sure a GOG release is gonna happen, unless a similar situation happens with the Activision Star Trek titles. Interplay is currently not in the position to release their remaining Trek catalog and until they either enter bankruptcy death those last 4 games may never see the light of day on modern computers without fan support.
It may be a long shot but one can hope.
@@BenKii Starfleet command is there so there is a chance
Those original ST Academy games ALLLL are in desperate need of a REMASTER
Do you get to drink prune juice in this game?
Sadly no. 😢
Prune Juice the drink of Warriors.
I never played this as a kid shame. I should now.
4:54 "You get thrust into the Klingon Civil War."
We've had one yes, what about second civil war?
I've lost count. I think they are always in a civil war.
At the time this game came out you needed a good system. Ran crap on my PC so i would sneak it onto my Dad's who had the best at the time. God damn the game ran smooth...Multiplayer was also fun
Sneaky sneaky sir. 😊
they got him because he LOVED playing the character
I thought that random alien race might of been the Lyrans or Hydrans from a quick glance, the ones of SFB/SFC fame, but no, its just a random creation only in Klingon Academy.
The more you learn.
Can definitely see the groundwork for Bridge Commander here, thats for sure.
Your channel is a gem
Thank you. :)
story from this game and actors was rly a leap ahead of time, dont know if there was later a game that took in so many real famous actors/characters they play into a single title.
The Wing Commander series, ironically another space simulator.
Perhaps I was just extremely lucky playing my copy of Klingon Academy, but I basically had a bug free and straightforward experience. Worst thing that ever happened to me was that I got timed out of Mission 1 after using warp 6 or 7 instead of warp 9 since I figured it would make me stealthier. Otherwise, my playthrough was smooth sailing! Great game overall.
Klingon Academy was a great game , but more because the story behind, than the game itself , today they need to make something more multiplayer like Star Trek: Bridge Crew to feel really in a bridge
Loved this game as a child, even though I sucked and it took me forever to progress.
But the live action scenes, everything being over the top (the acting, the klingon chorus constantly screaming in the main menu) and the complexity of ship combat made me love it.
At the end I was mostly content with duking it out in the ship simulator. Interestingly enough, by choosing the battlecruisers of the oh so peaceful federation one could curbstomp entire fleets, although I think they were never encountered in the story mode proper.
They really cooked with Bridge Commander. With all the Star Trek mods for some 4X games like Stellaris I would just wonder if we get something like this for modern space sims.
OMG Christopher Plummer wow!
Star Wars: Klingon (the FMV Interactive Story game/language tutor) was pretty dang awesome too.
Yeah, the one with Chancellor Gowron is pretty cool. I made video about that one too.
Today is a good day to fly!
this game was absolutetly amazing... does anyone remember this on gamespy arcade online game play ? Nothing has even come close to this game nothing.. not even star trke online.. i would pay a lot of money if this was remade.. unfortunatly we dont have the actors with us anymore the manuall menu for controlling the stations was super super helpfull when playing online, i remember warping away from fights, and people warping after me... you have to allocate power and crew to specific sections, all while mainting a warp faster or as fast as your persurer ... all while repairing or healing your crew.. it was absolutetly fantastic. bridge commander didnt go in depth into the ship like this game
I still have the manual for the game, the printed copy.. You sound a bit young so i dont think you were born or played it when it came out judging by you not knowing how to use the in depth menus to control the ship... but still a great review..
the enemies didnt disapear out of bounds they warped away... there is no "out of bounds" you have to warp after them... if you go into your starmap you can see you can visit countless systems. the race you dont know about are called the shakurians
It is sad that the actors aren't around but the original FMVs could be AI upscaled. Like, the scenes I included in the video were done just like that up to 1080p. Downloaded the hi-res FMV pack off of modDB.
My story isn't that great as others.... but I remember 23 or 24 years ago I think...When I bought the game, the cashier said that her boyfriend was really into the game. Soon later, I had the same opinion 🙂
Warp into the Danger Zone
Still have this one my shelf like the day I got it. I played it a few times but it was buggy as can be.
That "X-Wing vs. Tie Fighter" clip was from X-Wing Alliance...
Yes it was but that's only because that's my favorite one from the series.
@@BenKii And rightly so...
I have the paper version of the Klingon Academy manual, OMG you could knock a Terran out with that book.
I think I still have mine too.
And that was just the English version. Can only imagine how thick the book is in original Klingon. 😳
@@BenKii I even remember in the computer game Star Trek Klingon even allowed you to learn and speak Klingon using a microphone.
God i miss games when they did live action segments like C&C...
As for someone being called there ancestors name i would say its very likely due to the traditional nature of klingons so wolf would most likely have inherited this name.
FMV segments are a dying breed. Some newer games still have them like that latest Tex Murphy game or the adventure game Obduction.
@@BenKii Star Fleet Academy was the best as well.
best game ever. needs a remake
Indeed. 👍
or bumped to GOG type, like its UFP counterpart
@@ebee-uz1oz i got the discs around and they run. but sometimes it still crashes badly.
@@dannyhartwig7595 i have the discs too, but no disc drive, as my machine can only run so much. got a downloaded version, perhaps I'll give that a try again.
@@dannyhartwig7595 i tried the KA insta-play version, mission 3, totally sucked at it, with a 360 controller, was hoping the triggers would be for actual.....triggering disrupters, not used to shoulder buttons
the thing I hated about this game on newer systems, the background "blinks", or worse, right at the first mission, you lose right at the start (forgot how).....right up there with starfleet academy when you have a miranda and a baddie pummels you until you lose a nacelle (tested that one on a windows 7, game goes too fast even on the "destroy mines" mission, like you have to be The Flash to taken them out)
Really wish this game would get the remaster treatment and fix all those bugs.
OH man, I LOVED the klingon series. Yes Colonel Worf is Worfs Grandfather, he's Kirks lawyer in whichever movie. Also, where the hell did you find NES Top Gun theme? lol
That Top Gun theme from the NES is called "Fuel Plane". Best one from that game.
Absolutely loved this game.
Small question.
Near the end you show some footage of other games including one where a mech turns int oa jet.
What's that from?
Gun Metal
It's a short fun little game I got from GOG. Regularly goes on sale for about 1 dollar.
It’s sad we prob will never get another Good Star Trek game. Heck I wish we would get good Klingon tv series.
Yeah whole Worf thing is confusing. Why don’t we get Worf Tv series, something that just takes place after tv series Picard. I think only Star Trek game I’ve played was SNES TNG one.
I might played Star Trek online once? But that was years ago and I forgot my login/Pw for it.
Little known fact: "Worf" is just the default Klingon skin texture and any Klingon that doesn't resemble him paid for DLC.
🤣
Totally AGREE!!!
7:18 It's an older code sir, but it checks out
Some codes just *stick* with you.
You should do a review on Star Trek, elite force 1 and 2.
In the works. Stay tuned.
I loved this game i still have it but no drive on my pc to load it
although the 1st disc is scratched and wont install
@@paulbyrne6532 Darn... Looks like you need a new drive and a disc.
@@BenKii Yeah i need an external cdrom no slot for 1 in my towerand i need to buy the game again to get the disc not seen this game on sale for years
Good tea. Nice house.
How did you get this to work?
I always get that crazy frame refresh problem no matter what I try.
I loved playing this game growing up.
Downloaded the latest community patch 1.02r7 from modDB plus used nglide. Got it running and playable to the end but still buggy.
@@BenKii Awesome. Buggy is better than nothing at all.
Thanks.
So, is this game similar to Bridge Commander? I love that game.
Sort of.... This game plays more like Descent Freespace or some of the other space flight games. Bridge Commander, how it functions, works better as a big capital ship simulator.
Michael Dorn was in this.
Yes
You can use a PS4 or an Xbox controller as a joystick on Windows 10.
Yup that'll work but nothing beats a Sidewinder Joystick for flight sim games. 😎
any chance this game works on windows 10? I recall too many times that just turning port or starboard causes the game to "blink"
@@BenKii funny, I have a sidewinder joystick......I just can't seem to get the controller to work anymore, just like another white controller with retractable usb cable .....well if a xbox360 controller can work, cool.
@@ebee-uz1oz I played it on Windows 10 so, yes, it works. Keep in mind that I still encountered quite a few bugs in my playthrough.
@@BenKii any suggestions where i can get the patch? i think a few years ago when I did said patch, the game denied it....
HONORRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!
YEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!
Best game ever 😁
This must be the highway to the Qober Zone.
I have looked at this comment in my notifications for 12 days now and still don't know what a Qober Zone is. 🤷♂️
@@BenKii "Qober" = Danger in Klingonese (sort of). Qob is the actual Klingon word for danger.
The game I had (don't know if it was in every game) in exploration mode if you went to the Sol system and traveled to Pluto (I think back when the game first came out it was still considered a planet) you would encounter a flying saucer that fired cows at you. ruclips.net/video/EKRN2DMT4G4/видео.htmlsi=MpwWE9E1WN_RjfWz. Advance to 18:30. The UFO will start firing COW TORPEDOES at around 19:20 Click on the link not the timestamps or you'll get an error message.
Wow! Really? That sounds like a myth to me. Gonna need some video proof of it.
I keep adding the link to the video but it keeps getting taken down.
Finally got the link added. Had to edit my original comment and add it in.
@@BenKii Just edited my original comment and added a link to a video with proof.
@@G74 Well damn! That's an awesome find! Ya learn something new everyday.
4:04: Comeon, it's not that hard... Worf (TNG) is the son of Mogh, who is the son of Colonel Worf (TMP), whose brother is instructor Thok'Mak....
And they just so happen to sound the same. What a coincidence!
@@BenKii Indeed. Guess some things run literally in the family.
@@BenKii Don't know who Mogh sounds like. He was never seen onscreen or heard either. But in this game you are introduced to young Kimpek and a young version of Worf's nurse maid. And Kimpek has always been fat. LOL
Hi. What is your version of DAT Explorer 2 ?
Version 1.2
I think I got it from a Fallout 2 website. Found nothing when searching for Dat Explorer on the Klingon Academy sites.
@@BenKii Does the author name come by 'Lexx' ?
@@racejay I don't recall if that was the author. Why do you ask?
@@racejay I just loaded the program and in the title it states "by Mr. Stalin"
@@BenKii Great, thanks a lot!
Well he proabbly was mogh as well.
Worf gets around.
@BenKii my personal headcannon everybody at least all the males look like worf in the house of mogh. Except kurn but i suspect kurn is really only worfs half brother.
NERD!!!
Thank you
@@BenKii /tips hat
success? squadrons is horrible.
@@this.is.a.username Well I don't know why you disliked it but I sure did enjoy it.
Star Trek Online barely looks better...
They don't put much into those MMOs. And it sure doesn't have the individual ship dismemberment