The armor reduction and armor penetration interaction
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- This video quickly details how armor reduction and armor penetration work together, in which order they are calculated and what it means for stacking both of them.
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Bro got phd in League 😂
Fucking Nerdiest channel I've ever seen, and I love it.
Pantheon with Black Cleaver go brrrrrr
When people build Lord Dom or any % armor pen/reduction onto Darius and they assume its 70%(cleaver) or 80% (dom) when its actually not. If that was the case then 80% armor pen would be disgustingly overpowered.
Remember guys similar % effects are multiplicative.
So if you had 200 armor, 40% off Darius will make them have 120 armor instead, and then if you include Dom it is then -40% of that 120 so its 72armor + whatever lethality you have, that is the armor your enemy will have against you. But if you were to Black Cleaver 30% armor reduction it would instead be 200 - 30% = 140 armor and then your passive of +40% armor pen so they would have an armor stat of 84 against you.
(Reduction effect is a debuff so it benefits your entire team especially your ADC so if they use Dominiks it would be the same effect with 30% reduction then +40% ignore.)
Does this same order apply for magic reduction/penetration?
Order of calculations
Armor penetration and armor reduction are considered in the following order:[3]
Armor reduction, flat
Armor reduction, percentage
Armor penetration, percentage
Armor penetration, flat (Lethality)
Base armor and bonus armor are calculated separately.
I guess it's easier to understand now why Riot didn't want us to mix Cleaver and Last Whisper items on the same build, since they're on the similar spectrum of bypassing Armor around variable amounts, unlike Lethality being a flat amount.
could you do, gp's barrel armor pen + armor pen from itens + letality?
Make a content about katarina/azir onhit changes on thornmail
how to counter neeko?
Iw there any items or ability that have flat armour reduction? All i can think of it rengar ult.
That's what lethality does
He just mentioned corki in the video as an example
Trandl ult?
@@kerosenos8219 Lethality has armor penetration, not armor reduction
@@kerosenos8219 lethality is armor pen not reduction. Things like rengar ult shreds target armor by flat amount.
Thanks Chat Gpt
Didn’t your last video on the topic say the opposite of this lol
How to counter draven next? Hes always been pretty oppressive in lane
I think Varus and Ashe would be a good comp against Draven but kinda bad against supp like Nautilus or Thresh
Samira draven and lucian have low range compared to the other adcs try to abuse range against them
Pick Caitylin
Ok we get it. This is basic info and you’ve already done armor pen vid.
Can you do a video on how to counter Hecarim, Karthus or Graves (broken junglers).
Or do a video on Attack Speed Ratio since a lot of people are confused about it or don’t know what it is.
broken xdd
@@omega7057 they are literally played the most by every experienced jungler. Smurf junglers rotate between Graves, Hecarim. How are they not broken?
@@dishonored6116 experienced junglers use them because they are self sufficient powerfarmers, that doesn't make them overpowered. they're very consistent if you just play for yourself.
@@dishonored6116if a smurf jungler is using them that means they’re good to abuse people far lower skill than you, not that they’re good. Lillia and kindred are by far the best junglers right now
@@dishonored6116 if they were broken we would see a single game of them in competitive no?
How to counter Yorick?
Play Trundle
@@nguyenhuuhiep1505 or dodge ig
You already did a vid on that. 🤨
how to counter sett pls
I heard that Serpent Fang could reduce his W damage by reducing the shield it gave
Pick gragas
@tanghoannam7387 the amount of shield he gets has nothing to do with the damage itself
Kayli
Garen could be reasonable counter
can someone translate?
every game has that one player who knows how the damage is calculated😅
AD champs when they buy LDR or Black Clever against any armor scaling champions that have around 300-500 armors: 😎
AP champs when enemies’s buy over 80 MR: 🤯
Yeah can someone explain wth that happen? Like wtf is wrong with 1 MR item and you survive the entire AP mages, assasins burst? Any explaination toward that interaction?
(I’m a kass main and tired from seeing ADCs buy FoN then tank the entire 3 stacks ult, full combo with AA reset+Lich Bane)
That's because 2 things, first AD champs have usually dps, mages are more for burst, also AD champs can combine abilities and AA, so their damage is increased, while mages relies only in their spells.
I buy black cleaver and max Corky E
Huh?
So what items we go?
@@dksider9875 ldr or black cleaver and then lethality items
@@dksider9875 if the enemy has a ton of armor go percentage pen first, think seryldas for example, and then lethality to reduce what's left
example;
100 armor - 40% armor pen = 60 armor - 20 lethality = 40 armor effectively
200 armor - 40 % armor pen = 120 armor - 20 lethality = 100 armor effectively
So if you fight against a mage as an assassin and that mage has no high armor value then simply go lethality, if you fight against a tank get % pen first
@@meg0ros300 yh I understand that, but he mentioned flat reduction in the video. Is that only from abilities? If so then I'd imagine reduction from abilities is universally the worst form of armour pen unless it is substantially more. I dunno I thought this video was trying to teach me something majorly important like the rest of the vids but this has been explained before
@@dksider9875 flat reduction is only from very few sources, mostly abilities or monsters. it is the worst only in theory because its calculated first *but* it has the hidden ability to reduce defense past 0, effectively granting you true damage in that category *if* the other methods would theoretically lower it far enough down.