American Reacts to the History of Northern Ireland

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  • Опубликовано: 22 окт 2024

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  • @liammcfarlane13
    @liammcfarlane13 2 года назад +138

    “It’s crazy that in the olden days, being a Catholic or a Protestant could lead to a war!”
    Me, knowing that the olden days was only 30-odd years ago: 😬

    • @microwavefish
      @microwavefish 2 года назад +6

      It’s not so bad today but it still happens from time to time

    • @tonys1636
      @tonys1636 2 года назад

      Religion has caused more wars over time than any other cause, even before Christianity came on the scene.

    • @amaritineenthusiast
      @amaritineenthusiast 2 года назад +9

      30 Years ago are rookie numbers, it could still happen now, I live here and its crazy

    • @user-ze8yy8jg1f
      @user-ze8yy8jg1f 2 года назад +2

      @@amaritineenthusiast fact shit has changed in the Republic too. There's a lot more guns being found

    • @margaretwaite7226
      @margaretwaite7226 2 года назад +4

      As an Irish person I can't cope with the terrible faux Irish accent. So bad.

  • @EEmB
    @EEmB 2 года назад +38

    I'm Swedish, I grew up during the troubles. I remember 20 years of daily reports of explosions and violence, it became part of life so close. It feels like many not much younger than me have forgotten all about the terror in Northern Ireland, England, and ETA in Spain that happen not long ago at all.

    • @theeggtimertictic1136
      @theeggtimertictic1136 2 года назад +4

      I'm from Southern Ireland and my first child was born a couple of days after the last bomb in Omagh in 1998. It's hard to explain the troubles to them. Even though down South it was pretty normal most of the time.

    • @sylviahocherl9665
      @sylviahocherl9665 2 года назад +1

      me too in Germany

    • @eventua8474
      @eventua8474 2 года назад +2

      It's shocking how quickly that memory/knowledge gets lost - I was born in England in late 1992 and have no memory of it (my earliest childhood memory of a frightening news item is probably 9/11?), then a few years ago became close friends to a family from Ireland who live near the border and was encouraged to look into its' history. It's horrible just how recent it all was, and how little it would take to reignite the violence.

    • @xneurianx
      @xneurianx Год назад +2

      It's so strange to me. My dad was nearly arrested in London for having an Irish surname. I was in multiple evacuations from train stations etc. due to bombs. I got bullied for "being Irish" at school. One day the bank in my city was just gone after being bombed. It all just sort of seemed normal at the time but feels like forever ago now. I have younger friends, and friends from further away from London and friends who have no Irish lineage who just have no understanding of how big of an impact the Troubles had on British society.
      When I was vocally horrified that Brexit might affect the Good Friday agreement one of the most shocking things to me was how many people seemed to have absolutely zero concept of why that would be a big problem.

    • @miaforsberg5595
      @miaforsberg5595 11 месяцев назад

      There is a documentary serie about the troubles on RUclips. Very good. Spotlight on the troubles.
      I’m born -65 and from Sweden. I have vivid memories from the years -75 until the end.

  • @tomlynch8114
    @tomlynch8114 2 года назад +40

    The Republic of Ireland was actually established in 1949. In 1922 the Irish Free State which was self governing within the British Empire. The Free State paved the way to the fully independent Republic.

    • @aguy6771
      @aguy6771 2 года назад +1

      stop you're confusing him XD

    • @TylerRumple
      @TylerRumple  2 года назад +2

      LOL true

    • @margaretr5701
      @margaretr5701 2 года назад

      @@TylerRumple 😊 You're doing great!

    • @gerardflynn7382
      @gerardflynn7382 Год назад

      In 1922 Ireland became a Free State, a self governing country.
      But it was not part of the British Empire hence the name "Free State".

    • @gerardflynn7382
      @gerardflynn7382 Год назад

      With the enactment of the Constitution of Ireland in 1939,Ireland officially became a Republic.
      It took the London government 10yrs to recognise Ireland as a Republic.

  • @ErringMonkey
    @ErringMonkey 2 года назад +11

    As a Catholic here in N.I. this video caused my head to hurt "its just accepted" AAAAAAAAAGHHHH NO

  • @airishpenguin9387
    @airishpenguin9387 2 года назад +33

    Being from Belfast Northern Ireland it's great to see someone outside taking an interest.
    It's not as simple as the north was ok with being British and the south wasn't . Alot of people in northern Ireland never wanted and still don't want to be part of the Union we just never had a say then .
    It's very split on people here in the north who identify as either British or Irish. I myself class myself as Irish and would really like to have a unified nation one day :)
    But the most important thing isn't weither the north is part of the Irish Republic or part of the British union . The important thing is we have stopped killing each other and the divide between two communitys here in the north is dying away :)
    Great video man 👌

    • @cnnungo9598
      @cnnungo9598 2 года назад +7

      As a British unionist also from Belfast , I couldn't agree more 👍
      Except for maybe the Irish unification part . 😂
      But the most important thing is that we have stopped harming eachother, and I beg that it stays this way.

    • @airishpenguin9387
      @airishpenguin9387 2 года назад +4

      @@cnnungo9598 exactly man . No more violence and living togather respecting each others shared history and culture is the way .
      And yeah that's completely fair 😂
      The bigots are dying out anyway so hopefully future is bright :)

    • @airishpenguin9387
      @airishpenguin9387 2 года назад +2

      @Ken Fullman I'm really sorry that's what you've had to experience and still have to live with the trauma today mate . I grew up in the 90s so I could never relate to anything you or others have experienced all I can say is I don't view the IRA having a part of a unite Ireland in today's age but again , I really do understand why you rightfully have deep mistrust
      Again I am sorry 😔

    • @jacquilewis8203
      @jacquilewis8203 Год назад +4

      Growing up in NI I've lost friends/colleagues of both religions here. Living here day to day wasn't the greatest but not the worst.
      It makes me happy to know the killing has stopped.

  • @iantrott9152
    @iantrott9152 2 года назад +73

    Sadly the video skirts over American involvement. The US activity funded the “troubles” and sadly still does; without many in the US fully understanding the deep rooted issues :(

    • @yermanoffthetelly
      @yermanoffthetelly 2 года назад

      Why was there US involvement? Was it maybe to do with the 1million Irish that had to flee from the British genocide that was completely ignored in this video and their descendants weren't cool with an artificial secterian statelet oppressing their kinsmen? Hmmmmmm? 🤔

    • @sylviasworld9397
      @sylviasworld9397 2 года назад +13

      One thing that always perplexed me when American Presidents kept saying "war against terror" , because they conveniently forget they funded what some people thought was "terror", heavily. One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist.
      They dod so, against a country they said they have a 'special relationship' with. I find US involvement/funding very hypocritical to be honest. The English were also in the wrong, but the US should have come in to bring peace or solution, not funding for arms. That's just my opinion, though.

    • @seankavanagh7625
      @seankavanagh7625 2 года назад

      Sadly Brits repeating another lie which they probably agreed on in a Wetherpoons. The US did not fund the Troubles or the IRA. Irish diaspora living in the US and will continue to do so if the British aggression were to ever continue, sort of like how the British are funding the Ukrainians to defend themselves. Now the UVF on the other hand, they were definitely state sponsored. State directed too such as in the bombings of Dublin and Monaghan. It's really sad that no mirrors exist in Britain so you can take a look at yourselves.

    • @redvulpa1324
      @redvulpa1324 2 года назад

      Yeah Biden and his Irish Lobby in Washington were responsible for funding the IRA terrorists.

    • @wendyfield7708
      @wendyfield7708 2 года назад

      America constantly interferes in countries whose history they do not understand!

  • @yehagem
    @yehagem 2 года назад +26

    You should watch a video more in depth about the troubles! It's something that still very much affects us as a country today and you still see aftereffects of it!

    • @TylerRumple
      @TylerRumple  2 года назад +3

      Yes I could tell by the end that this was a very brief overview, I'm sure there is much still to learn. Thanks Yehagem

  • @DavidDoyleOutdoors
    @DavidDoyleOutdoors 2 года назад +46

    I’m from Northern Ireland, thank you for doing a video about our country. Did you know that the Titanic was built here?

    • @annfrancoole34
      @annfrancoole34 2 года назад +7

      We went up to see it after Christmas (train from Dublin) it was absolutely brilliant. They did a great job telling the history of it being built. Really enjoyed it.

    • @DavidDoyleOutdoors
      @DavidDoyleOutdoors 2 года назад +2

      @@annfrancoole34 it’s well done, even won the top tourist attraction in the world award

    • @TylerRumple
      @TylerRumple  2 года назад +12

      I did not know that. That's a fun fact if ever I hear one!

    • @LouLou10000
      @LouLou10000 2 года назад +1

      Do you really want to admit that 🤫😉 considering

    • @DavidDoyleOutdoors
      @DavidDoyleOutdoors 2 года назад +8

      @@LouLou10000 she was ok when she left 😝

  • @howard1707
    @howard1707 2 года назад +20

    The film skipped over or completely ignored things like the famine that led to mass immigration from Catholic Ireland to the UK and United States mostly the New York area, the funding of the Catholic weapons by the United States the murders on both sides that went on, including members of the British Royal Family. I grew up in Windsor during the 1960's and 1970's in a sensitive area of the town and we would always have to check under the family car for bombs before driving away.

    • @theeggtimertictic1136
      @theeggtimertictic1136 2 года назад +6

      I couldn't believe they skipped over the Famine. England had a huge part to play in that. How they depicted Irish Catholics was despicable.

  • @zenonorth1193
    @zenonorth1193 2 года назад +26

    Actually, many Americans know of the conflict that took place in Northern Ireland. It's just that most of the people who know about it are older than you. (I'm not blaming you for the mere fact of not existing when this was front-page news stuff.)

    • @dalemac614
      @dalemac614 2 года назад +2

      Im
      Blaming him at first I was blaming the education of younger people, but it’s just clear he cannot listen.

    • @nedludd7622
      @nedludd7622 6 месяцев назад

      @@dalemac614 Yup, and it is not the first time.

  • @TheGrimmCommoner
    @TheGrimmCommoner Год назад +2

    "A Catholic civil rights protest was quashed by the police."
    This guy actually downplayed Bloody Sunday, where the British Army shot and killed fourteen unarmed civil rights protesters which sparked one of the scariest civil wars in human history. That same paratrooper group also shot and killed civilians in Ballymurphy, Belfast a year earlier.

    • @yermanoffthetelly
      @yermanoffthetelly 11 месяцев назад +2

      The original video is so biased it's laughable.

  • @jonathanroberts8642
    @jonathanroberts8642 2 года назад +10

    If you're interested in learning more about The Troubles I recommend watching Derry Girls. It's a comedy but does a really good job of showing what it was like in those days.

  • @real_lostinthefogofwar
    @real_lostinthefogofwar 2 года назад +8

    The song 'Sunday Bloody Sunday' by U2 was about the troubles in Northern Ireland

    • @wessexdruid7598
      @wessexdruid7598 2 года назад +6

      And similarly 'Zombie' by the Irish band 'The Cranberries' was about the IRA murdering children in Warrington.

    • @seankavanagh7625
      @seankavanagh7625 2 года назад +1

      @@wessexdruid7598 There was no song about -your- sorry the UVF's murdering of people in Dublin or Monaghan....we should probably write one

    • @wessexdruid7598
      @wessexdruid7598 2 года назад +2

      @@seankavanagh7625 Given the Irish talent for music, that's a surprise, isn't it?
      Perhaps it's that the UVF killed 34 people in Dublin/Monaghan - while the IRA killed over 1700 across Europe, by comparison. That's more than fifty times as many.
      My family is from Co Cork, btw.

    • @seankavanagh7625
      @seankavanagh7625 2 года назад

      @@wessexdruid7598 I didn't ask where your family is from. It doesn't give you any loyalty, affection or understanding of our home. The IRA were definitely vicious scvmbags but they were vicious scvmbags acting on their own accord. Not under orders from any state governed body. The UVF cannot say the same.
      By the way how many people would you estimate Britain has killed across the world? 1700 was probably a slow day for the Empire.

    • @Goddzi
      @Goddzi Год назад

      I think this song says it best…
      ruclips.net/video/or09DEFJT6U/видео.html

  • @pixelbartus
    @pixelbartus 2 года назад +12

    Every time i am hearing about northern ireland, i immediatly have the cranberries song "zombie" stuck in my head

    • @cindimams4394
      @cindimams4394 2 года назад +3

      Same. Just heard it yesterday and it makes me sad 😢

    • @kieronimo1
      @kieronimo1 2 года назад +1

      In your head, in your head, in your heeeeeeeead.

  • @Psyk60
    @Psyk60 2 года назад +15

    It's true that no one knows how to describe Northern Ireland. According to official standards it's a "province", but I don't think many people call it that (since Ulster as a whole is also a province). You can call it a country or nation, but Irish nationalists don't see it that way because they think of it as just part of Ireland which happens to be under British rule.

    • @sunseeker9581
      @sunseeker9581 2 года назад +2

      Well they have separate governments so calling it part of Ireland is a stretch. They need a referendum or another war before that changes.

    • @neuralwarp
      @neuralwarp 2 года назад +2

      As a nation within the UK it now has a higher status than it had in Ireland as half a province. The correct politically neutral term is Territory.

    • @yermanoffthetelly
      @yermanoffthetelly 2 года назад

      @@neuralwarp It became "half a provence" due to the British gerrymandering, to create a "protestant state for a protestant people"....a sectarian little statelet akin to Rhodesia.

    • @TylerRumple
      @TylerRumple  2 года назад +2

      Thanks for the clarification

    • @eirekelleher8366
      @eirekelleher8366 2 года назад +1

      @@sunseeker9581 it is Ireland, the island of Ireland, no stretch about it, calling it part of the UK is the stretch

  • @michael_177
    @michael_177 2 года назад +12

    This video will have so many comments explaining things, and he wont read a single one of them lmao. You're farting the wind folks, he's literally taking the piss

    • @ianwalker5842
      @ianwalker5842 2 года назад +4

      I suspect you're right. And I doubt he even makes a conscious effort to remember (the mental "save" button) most of this information, some of which he's come across before in other videos then apparently forgotten. The level of ignorance displayed is quite breathtaking, even for an "average American". I bet if he'd paid closer attention at school he'd have picked up a lot more historical information than he did. To keep saying, "Americans know nothing about..." as if all are as thick as him is an insult to those Americans who've actually bothered to LEARN about the world beyond their borders, which is easily achieved today by any discerning, critical user of internet education platforms.

    • @marisaevancoe9837
      @marisaevancoe9837 2 года назад

      @michael177 Haha he's commenting throughout the whole comment section

    • @michael_177
      @michael_177 2 года назад

      @@marisaevancoe9837 Yep, and he seems to be doing it on many of his videos. Looks like someone has gotten him to pull his finger out, finally. With any luck it wont take whinging about it to do the basics

  • @Jamieclark192
    @Jamieclark192 2 года назад +5

    Dude, lots of Americans know about Northern Ireland. The USA is a guarantor to the Northern Ireland Peace Process negotiated in the late 1990’s.

  • @paulowens6004
    @paulowens6004 2 года назад +12

    The Ulster Scots or Scots Irish played a big part in the American Revolution and everything from Politics to Industry.

    • @user-ze8yy8jg1f
      @user-ze8yy8jg1f 2 года назад

      Majority of ulster Scots faught for the confederation

    • @gallowglass2630
      @gallowglass2630 Год назад

      They contributed more to america than they ever contributed to ireland.All they contributed here is division and building a ship that sunk on its maiden voyage

    • @BrianBorumaMacCennetig367
      @BrianBorumaMacCennetig367 9 месяцев назад

      Incorrect.

  • @kurtisokc
    @kurtisokc 2 года назад +3

    Any American who is old enough to remember the 70s and 80s and who followed international news to any extent was aware of the troubles.

    • @marisaevancoe9837
      @marisaevancoe9837 2 года назад +1

      @kurtis Johnson you're absolutely right.

    • @Dr_KAP
      @Dr_KAP 2 года назад

      Indeed I think he doesn’t give his people enough credit. They aren’t all ignorant.

  • @Nickersons-Theme
    @Nickersons-Theme 2 года назад +3

    British/Irish/Northern Irish/whatever, I've friends from all walks of life I could not care! I'll respect everyone's stance on it!

  • @jensschroder8214
    @jensschroder8214 2 года назад +5

    The Normans. It was a Norman king who ascended to the English throne.
    That's why many French words are left behind in English. Only the French dialect in Normandy was a little different than later in Paris, which became standard French. In English, the French words also changed slightly.

    • @tonys1636
      @tonys1636 2 года назад

      So did all the titles of Duke, Marquis, Earl (Comte in French, Count), Viscount and Baron. William I, the Conqueror, did not ascend to the English Thrown but took it by force when he was the Duke of Normandy at the Battle of Hastings in 1066. The Duke of Normandy is the title that the Monarch (now Charles III) has in the Channel Islands of Guernsey and Jersey, not used on the Mainland where the Monarch has the title of the Duke of Lancaster.

    • @helenevoyer5317
      @helenevoyer5317 2 года назад

      Some of Quebec French are closely related to Normand words

  • @zenonorth1193
    @zenonorth1193 2 года назад +16

    I'm genuinely celebrating with you (i.e., not being snarky) when I say: "Hooray! You remembered something from one of your earlier videos!!! 'The Republic of Ireland'!"

    • @HistoryqueenXX
      @HistoryqueenXX 2 года назад +1

      Haha 🤣

    • @TylerRumple
      @TylerRumple  2 года назад +3

      Ha! Every now and then something stick in this brain of mine.

  • @dawn5227
    @dawn5227 2 года назад +8

    My Irish Catholic grandparents emigrated to England where my Catholic father married my English Protestant mother. My grandmother was apparently very displeased about this. It probably didn't fit well considering her father was an illegitimate son between an Irish man and English woman. "The Irish troubles" were taking on a whole new meaning in my family. Lol

    • @Ronocos
      @Ronocos 2 года назад

      The displeasure still happens today, I'm from the South and my cousin is gay and married to a guy from the North (they met and live in London). When my cousins husband told his father that he was gay his father said "I don't care that you're gay, just don't bring home a Protestant"

  • @davonuk1
    @davonuk1 2 года назад +14

    If you want to see a depiction of the troubles, you might want to look at the movie 'Belfast', directed by Kenneth Branagh, which was released last year.
    It shows the story of a Catholic family in Northern Ireland around 1969, told through the eyes of a nine-year-old boy, named Buddy.

    • @ErringMonkey
      @ErringMonkey 2 года назад

      the family is protestant, cuz Kenneth is Protestant

    • @paulowens6004
      @paulowens6004 2 года назад

      So unrealistic, from the accent to everyone looking like peasants.

    • @katherinewalsh785
      @katherinewalsh785 2 года назад +2

      I agree. The movie was too one sided from the Protestant point of view., as was the Liam Neeson movie on Michael Collins from the Catholic point of view. There is/was wrong on both sides and to be honest, I think religion is used as an excuse for war. I think the Irish want the British out. Simple as. But the British have been established in Northern Ireland for 100’s of years now and of course it’s their home. From the south myself and from a Catholic background though couldn’t care one way or another what religion anyone is.Live and let live I say.

    • @theeggtimertictic1136
      @theeggtimertictic1136 2 года назад +2

      @@katherinewalsh785 I'm a Protestant down south from Wexford. Married to a Catholic. The Plantations up North caused so much harm ... it was an awful thing to do. Can you imagine that happening now!. Also how they changed all the place names to the English language. The names mean nothing now for example 'Vinegar Hill' in Enniscorthy. The original name meant 'hill of the wood of the berries'. But they decided it sounds like Vinegar and changed the name. How arrogant! It's a mess up North but I hope things remain peaceful.

    • @ErringMonkey
      @ErringMonkey 2 года назад

      @@katherinewalsh785 Michael Collins 1996
      had nothing to do with troubles?

  • @MarkmanOTW
    @MarkmanOTW 2 года назад +14

    And they didn't mention that a great deal of funding for terrorist activity of the IRA came from the USA (under the guise of charitable donations from Irish American communities). Growing up in Britain in the 1970s and 80s, we were faced with the risk of bombing and terrorist strikes here in the UK mainland. Scary times, but we carried on.

    • @ErringMonkey
      @ErringMonkey 2 года назад +13

      real struggle, once again ignoring the hundreds killed here in NI to focus on England's small moments, mainland Britain didn't have to fear shit, a few bombs, nothing compared to the suffering of Catholics and Protestants here in Ulster

    • @MarkmanOTW
      @MarkmanOTW 2 года назад +3

      @@ErringMonkey It was a conflict we were very aware of daily/weekly, and were very mindful of those communities who were facing it every day in Ulster. Our thoughts were often with them - and I remember as a student being involved with a joint-churches initiative providing holidays for kids from both Catholic and Protestant communities, taking them on trips.

    • @yermanoffthetelly
      @yermanoffthetelly 2 года назад

      Didn't mention the loyalist getting their guns from apartheid South Africa or British state collusion in the hundreds of civilian murders, or the Dublin and Monaghan Bombings either, funny that.

    • @katherinewalsh785
      @katherinewalsh785 2 года назад +6

      This is why there will never be resolution in NI. My suffering was worse than yours is not ever a reason to carry on hatred. No one can move on when they can’t let go. I have great hope for NI. There is a generation growing up who never experienced the troubles. It will take time, but eventually there will be other generations. These people are the hope for the future.

    • @seankavanagh7625
      @seankavanagh7625 2 года назад +5

      No mention of funding loyalists paramilitaries? There were a number of Irish communities also terrified. Did your terror mean more than theirs?

  • @martinbynion1589
    @martinbynion1589 Год назад +1

    Tyler, the three counties of Ulster that are part of the Republic of Ireland were excluded from the vote on whether Northern Ireland would be part of the UK or Ireland because the population there was mostly catholic and therefore pro-independence. It is generally recognised that if the whole (nine counties) of Ulster had been included in the referendum, then the vote would have favoured including all of Ireland as part of the new nation. Anyway, population trends (birthrate) indicate that in any future referendum in Northern Ireland on the union of the whole of Ireland as an independent country will be successful.

  • @catherinewilkins2760
    @catherinewilkins2760 2 года назад +14

    Pretty obvious they don't know the difference, as for years they were financing the troubles. Both sides would visit you asking for money to help their cause, would be given the help they craved. It must be said the troubles are low key now, but not gone away. The part of Ireland that's not part of UK, was known as the Freestate then become the Republic of Ireland. Also known as Eire.

    • @oisinmtom
      @oisinmtom 2 года назад +2

      Éire* eire means something entirely different

  • @Jamieclark192
    @Jamieclark192 2 года назад +4

    The political situation in Northern Ireland has become volatile since the U.K. left the European Union (EU). Ireland 🇮🇪 is still a part of the EU which has created a huge issue in regard to the 1998 peace agreement. You should look into this if you want to understand more.

  • @claregale9011
    @claregale9011 2 года назад +16

    I remember the bombings in England through the 90s , Warrington bomb which killed Tim parry and Johnathan ball only young lads , and the kanary ward bombing, it was a worrying time .

    • @neuralwarp
      @neuralwarp 2 года назад +4

      Yes; when I was working in central London, the bus before mine was blown up by the IRA, along with a section of the DLR.

    • @sylviasworld9397
      @sylviasworld9397 2 года назад +1

      @@neuralwarp Woah, you were really shown grace from above.

    • @sylviasworld9397
      @sylviasworld9397 2 года назад +1

      I remember the many bombings and announcements of imminent bombings while growing up in London. This would be just a fraction of what those in Northern Ireland went through.

    • @Kerrytoby
      @Kerrytoby Год назад

      I remember the bombs in Dublin and Monaghan carried out in collusion with the British state.

  • @davidadams3408
    @davidadams3408 2 года назад +2

    Something to be aware of is the catholic population in NI now out numbers the protestant one. This could be one of the reasons why the NI assembly (their devolved parliament) is not siting, as the protestant side refuse to join in at the moment. The good Friday agreement states that assembly is a shared one and if one side refuses to take part the assembly can't carry on. So with the catholic party of Sinn Fein also the biggest party in the assembly at some stage soon there will be serious talks of a referendum on rejoining EIRE and once again becoming a single Ireland.

  • @normawilson7941
    @normawilson7941 2 года назад +11

    Here’s one to throw into the mix I am married to a Catholic and he is British. Served his time in the ROYAL NAVY. He votes to remain within BRITAIN.

    • @mpg272727
      @mpg272727 2 года назад +3

      Funnily enough when I was at school I knew someone whos mother and her family were protestant while her dad and his side of the family were Catholic
      Apparently family meetups were a good laugh

    • @B-A-L
      @B-A-L 2 года назад +2

      Yeah, I don't get how it works either!

    • @1nikg
      @1nikg 2 года назад

      My parents were mixed. Growing up in the west of Scotland in the 80s was an eye opener

    • @rusticpartyeditz
      @rusticpartyeditz 2 года назад

      Many catholics want to stay in the UK. It may not suit Sinn Fein, who see a catholics majority as leading to a majority in favour of a united ireland, but polls show that many catholics are not supporters of a united ireland!

  • @johnsharp6618
    @johnsharp6618 2 года назад +8

    It's one of those topics no one really truly understands, regardless of what they say , everyone blames everyone else for all the faults.
    Religion and politics are the base for most of it .
    It would be better left in the history books and let the people of Southern and northern Ireland to get on with their lives peacefully.

    • @stephenlee5929
      @stephenlee5929 2 года назад +2

      Nice try, but seems unlikely

    • @wessexdruid7598
      @wessexdruid7598 2 года назад +1

      My great-grand parents were from Baltimore, Co Cork; he was employed by Trinity House, as a Coastguard. They were Protestant (my surname is a SW Irish clan name). Their house was burned down around them in 1919 and they and their children fled to England.

    • @eirekelleher8366
      @eirekelleher8366 2 года назад +1

      Oh we understand trust me, and we know excactly who to blame, because it's definitely not Ireland's fault,

  • @BiddyLove
    @BiddyLove 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for taking an interest in learning. Luv from Strabane N,Ireland 🇮🇪

  • @dhamp_
    @dhamp_ 2 года назад +4

    The problem with American history is that it starts 400 years ago with the last invasion of that landmass.
    If you were actually taught the thousands of years of American history prior to the arrival of the pilgrims, it would be much more like European history.

    • @eirekelleher8366
      @eirekelleher8366 2 года назад

      If only the people that history is based on were able to tell it, genocide

  • @tonybuc67
    @tonybuc67 2 года назад +3

    Normans were descendants of the Vikings also called "Norse Men"" and that is why they are called "Normans". As you know the Vikings invaded England and then France circa 900-1000 AD. That is why part of France is referred to as Normandy

  • @gerardduffy4004
    @gerardduffy4004 2 года назад +5

    You have entered a minefield when looking at the history of Ireland and Northern Ireland and the UK.
    There is a lot of ground to cover in that and at times the video is a bit glib
    In Northern Ireland, Catholic communities in cities like Belfast and Derry (also called Londonderry though not by the Irish) complained of discrimination and unfair treatment by the Protestant-controlled government and police forces leading up to The Troubles.
    “There was systematic discrimination in housing and jobs,” says James Smyth, an emeritus history professor at the University of Notre Dame who grew up in Belfast. “The biggest employer in Belfast was the shipyard, but it had a 95 per cent Protestant workforce. In the city of Derry, which had a two-thirds Catholic majority, the voting districts had been gerrymandered so badly that it was controlled politically by [Protestant] loyalists for 50 years.”
    The reprieve was The Good Friday Agreement aka the Belfast Agreement in 1998 signed by English Prime minister Tony Blair and Taoiseach Bertie Ahern were leaders of the UK and the Republic of Ireland at the time. The talks were chaired by United States special envoy George J. Mitchell.
    Ireland (The Republic) is no longer a poor nation, GDP speaking anyway one of the fastest growing economies, whereas Northern Ireland suffering in the aftermath of Brexit, is suffering because some wish to leave the EU, Northern Ireland did not have has been caught up in that due to requirement of The Good Friday Agreement.
    The island is Ireland or Éire also known as the Republic of Ireland, we just say Ireland for the whole Island, while acknowledging that Northern Ireland is part of the UK, and we don't like it being divided
    I should note that Ireland is not a "British Isle" officially by either the Irish Government or British Government, it has no official status, people say it is only geographical but it's not there is contrary to arguments it is political or politically laden term best avoided.
    The Normans or by now Anglo-Normans if I remember my history right invaded by invitation by an Irish King Dermot MacMurrough who was having problems holding onto his kingdom, the Normans arrived in Wexford in 1169, ie: Normans that invaded England and the Anglo-Saxon in 1066 from Normandy France (like the *D-Day landings, 1945 Utah, Omaha, Gold, Juno and Sword),
    and that's they set out from Wales under the leadership of Strongbow (cool name) aka Richard de Clare, then decided to stay, de Clare having married MacMorrough, daughter Aoife Ní Diarmait sealing the next years of conflict and conquest.
    It was not always just a religious divide, Catholic and Protestant, some of the leaders of the Irish Rebellion were Protestants such as Theobald Wolfe Tone, Charles Stewart Parnell, Thomas Russell, Henry Joy McCracken, William Orr, Lord Edward Fitzgerald, Robert Emmet, Charles Stewart Parnell.
    I am enjoying your exploration of these Islands. while troubled do have interesting history

    • @Emerald__Ace
      @Emerald__Ace 2 года назад +1

      If I remember correctly any documents that talk about Ireland and Britian refer to them as these Islands.

    • @gerardduffy4004
      @gerardduffy4004 2 года назад

      @@Emerald__Ace Yes exactly,
      The Good Friday Agreement is a perfect example

    • @shelleyphilcox4743
      @shelleyphilcox4743 2 года назад +1

      Glad you mentioned the fact that it was an Irish King asking the Norman Welsh marcher lord Richard de Clare to help him recover Leinster. It was a Welsh army that went over initially under Richard de Clare. Worth also mentioning is that Henry II, in 1171, negotiated the release of every English slave held on the island of Ireland at the Council of Armagh, because from the 5th to the 12th century, the Norse Gael city of Dublin was actually the largest slave market in western europe, and the people enslaved were mainly raided and traded from Britain and the sold on as far as Iceland to the Indus river. St Patrick himself was captured and enslaved in Ireland and escaped, to return later to try and bring Christianity to the kingdoms of Ireland. After Henry's invasion at the behest of the King of Leinster, the Norse Gael slave trade was largely choked off and the slave trade declined drastically.

  • @mrd4785
    @mrd4785 2 года назад +3

    Most of the money used to fund the IRA (terrorist Catholic army) came from wealthy Irish Catholics in America. Most of whom were linked to federal government AND organised crime (wont name names, but it goes to the very top of US society - some of the most celebrated political dynasties). I don't live in Ireland or have anything to do with it, but I know the South would like to retake the North, but the protestants in the North still don't want a bar of it and probably never will. There are things that still go on in Ireland, like marches through each other's neighbourhoods on the anniversaries of key battles, that still cause a lot of tension. Some of those battles were prolonged and gruesome and the stories have been consciously passed down through generations. Peace with some divisions still is the best case outcome for that society as far as I can tell. It is not anything like the US where they suddenly had a civil war over some things that have been put aside now and laid to rest, and people just move on with things. These conflicts had an element of genocide that involved the young and old, men and women alike. You'd think it would be simpler but there is a lot of history and differences to overcome. I think the Catholics continue to be unhappy about the existence of Northern Ireland, but the Republic of Ireland as a country seems to have moved forward in terms of economy, society and acceptance of its neighbours. There isn't really any reason in 2022 for animosity between Britain and Ireland, as current generations might look at it more as water under the bridge, but Northern Ireland is the main source of any continued division. In a more globalised world, they might consider that they have a bit more in common these days and shared interests in things like music, culture, media and the English Premier League for example, where all of the best Irish players tend to be and are well liked by the British public.

  • @cindimams4394
    @cindimams4394 2 года назад +11

    You should look in to the potato famine. Dark stuff 😢

  • @philipcochran1972
    @philipcochran1972 2 года назад +3

    Yes, Normans are from Normandy in northern France. The Normans or Norsemen were originally from Scandinavia. They successfully invaded Britain in 1066 (the last successful military invasion of Britain) and brought with them their French language which is why in English we don't say cow burger but beef burger. Regarding history that affects the USA you may have heard of a little thing called World War Two where the USA, UK and Canada invaded German occupied France at Normandy in June 1944, an event commonly referred to as D Day and which cost the lives of 2,500 USA service-men. There are massive cemeteries there of the Allied dead.

  • @normawilson7941
    @normawilson7941 2 года назад +10

    If you listen to an Ulster accent you can hear the American in it. We brought you country and western music.

    • @neuralwarp
      @neuralwarp 2 года назад +1

      Ulster Irish also started the annual St Patrick's Day celebrations in New York. Not that Joe Biden would know that.

    • @rusticpartyeditz
      @rusticpartyeditz 2 года назад

      @otc2020 That made me laugh.

    • @BrianBorumaMacCennetig367
      @BrianBorumaMacCennetig367 9 месяцев назад

      @@neuralwarp Incorrect the Irish in new york who started st patricks day in the 13th colonies were irish. Their surnames are readily available because they listed them in the friendly sons of st patrick records. The majority of them are Irish not ulster scots surnames.

  • @cyberjarl
    @cyberjarl 2 года назад +2

    You're correct, the Normandy that invaded Ireland is in France. Normandy was given to a group of Northmen (Vikings) led by Rollo in the 10th Century in exchange of them stopping raiding and pillaging France and on the condition that they converted to Christianity.
    In the 11th Century, William II of Normandy, aptly known as William the Conqueror, a descendant of Rollo, launched an invasion of the British Isles and put himself on the Throne of England. Over the following decades, the new English elite (who were Normans) continued to seek to expand in Wales and later in Ireland.

  • @extint3407
    @extint3407 2 года назад +6

    Its weird for me being born in England but my dad is N.Irish so I just say I'm British even though I think N.ireland should be given back to the Republic

    • @neuralwarp
      @neuralwarp 2 года назад +2

      It can't be "given back". There was never a country of Ireland until the British invented it. But if you want to delve back into history, it would be nice if the invading Celts returned the British Isles to the indigenous bronze-age Britons.

    • @extint3407
      @extint3407 2 года назад

      @@neuralwarp well technically at one point it was one country until they decided to split it, but i still think the people of N.ireland are Irish so should be with the Republic rather than the UK

    • @extint3407
      @extint3407 2 года назад

      @@mattg56 I think majority would probably not be open to it well the older generation, the newer generation probably would be

    • @rusticpartyeditz
      @rusticpartyeditz 2 года назад

      @@extint3407 I think it is up to the people of NI to decide what they are. Only 29% (I think) identified as Irish in the census.
      And the island of Ireland was only one country as part of the UK. Many see the Irish republic as leaving and causing the split.

    • @yermanoffthetelly
      @yermanoffthetelly 2 года назад +1

      @@rusticpartyeditz selective choice there. How many identify as Irish or Northern Irish only (as in not British or British & Northern Irish).... I'll wait

  • @9cheriiberri5
    @9cheriiberri5 2 года назад +1

    I'm from Northern Ireland and I;m not surprised Americans don't know much about us as the rest of the UK tend to forget about us too... and we are all part of the same 'family of nations' (insert eye roll here)

  • @aidieslater8351
    @aidieslater8351 2 года назад +3

    Worth mentioning that Northern Ireland would be doing better in terms of economy if it were a part of Ireland. Irelands GDP was third in the world last year and the highest in europe for the last two years

    • @rusticpartyeditz
      @rusticpartyeditz 2 года назад

      Not sure that ripping NI out of the Uk economy and the ensuing civil war would make NI economically better.

    • @aidieslater8351
      @aidieslater8351 2 года назад +1

      @@rusticpartyeditz that's for sure. However as a Northern Irish (Catholic heratage) citizen I am hoping it comes

  • @pltechreviews5891
    @pltechreviews5891 2 года назад

    This was a relevantly respectful video, and it is good to hear an American calling the northern part of our province by its actual name (as Northern Ireland is). But it is actually only since NI's formation in 1921 that people have actually started to call it Northern Ireland. Before that, people would have most likely referred to as Ulster or part of Ireland. Wee interesting fact about James II and William of Orange (Glorious Revolution) though: Although there were Catholics who backed James purely for the fact he was a Catholic King, many also fought on William's side, cuz Jame's was thought of as untrustworthy. There's a couple of audio books about the entire history of Ireland that go into everything a lot deeper I recommend, as well as podcasts.

  • @ilariabarnett8700
    @ilariabarnett8700 Год назад +1

    All throughout my childhood until I was well in my twenties, it was constantly on the news. I even remember when pope John Paul the second visited Ulster.... I am glad that that horrible time is gone, hopefully for good, although Brexit messed things up again....

  • @unclegreybeard3969
    @unclegreybeard3969 2 года назад +1

    The Republic of Ireland is the name that is recognised throughout the world, however the Irish people of the Republic and the Irish language call both the sovereign state and the Island it occupies - Eire.

  • @Krokostad
    @Krokostad 2 года назад +2

    9:10 Now you know why in Europe we have so many years of history lessons in school 😁

  • @MichaelJohnson-vi6eh
    @MichaelJohnson-vi6eh 2 года назад +2

    Well some of us that are older very very much remember "the troubles" lots and lots of armed conflict in the streets between insurgents, police, soldiers. I remember writing a poem as a child after seeing the aftermath of an IRA attack on TV. There is a movie from last year called Belfast. Give it a look. Also Prince Philips uncle Louis Mountbatten was killed in the seventies with the IRA blew up his fishing boat. I had a good friend from Tipperary whose father was in the IRA. Their family was adamantly anti British. anti northern Ireland. After the Good Friday accords and joining the European Union things were going really well. Brexit took a dump in the stew because suddenly NI was not in the EU but the ROI was in the EU and it was difficult to trade with each other or go back and forth like they got used to doing.

  • @dyread
    @dyread 2 года назад +3

    Not everyone in the south (republic) is in favour of them joining with us. We in the south are much more economically rich these days and they are being looked after by the UK, and not able to exist as a separate entity. The UK gives them vast amounts of money to keep going. We in the south do not want that around our necks instead. The UK can baby sit them (in my opinion).

    • @joygibbons5482
      @joygibbons5482 2 года назад

      Oh yes, the truth that dares not speak it’s name.

  • @fishfingers8441
    @fishfingers8441 2 года назад +6

    I’d recommend watching a short video about the peace walls- many of which remain standing to segregate communities based on their faith, it’s super interesting

    • @gallowglass2630
      @gallowglass2630 2 года назад +1

      Fish fingers Its not really about faith as such anymore its about national identity most of them don't practice,but one side looks to the rest of the island and the other to the other island.For example the people mourning the death of the queen as their sovereign will be protestants for the most part,whereas most catholics will not mourn her as their sovereign because they regard themselves as irish and thus don't have as much affinity with quintessential britishness represented by the british monarchy

    • @mazraz7257
      @mazraz7257 2 года назад +1

      @@gallowglass2630 I love her and my family are Irish Catholics

    • @gallowglass2630
      @gallowglass2630 2 года назад

      @@mazraz7257 She was held in high regard in the republic,but my point is they don't mourn her as their sovereign and northern irish catholics don't either for the most part.They are exceptions of course ,but generally they wouldn't especially in the interface areas.

  • @jonathangoll2918
    @jonathangoll2918 2 года назад +11

    The whole thing is still very fraught. I'm English, and I remember going by bus into the centre of Birmingham in October 1974 and seeing the piles of debris outside two pubs, the Mulberry Bush and The Tavern in the Town, after the IRA had bombed them. I think 21 people were killed.
    The principal source of arms and finance for the IRA was the United States; a popular statement at the time was 'Surely we should bomb America?' Since if any country is the source of money and arms for terrorist activity in the US, don't you bomb them?
    I have to admit the Protestant terrorists were as bad. In addition to bombing/ assassinating Northern Irish Catholics, they bombed Dublin.
    I do wish Americans knew more. I suspect sometimes that you have deliberately been kept ignorant.

    • @seankavanagh7625
      @seankavanagh7625 2 года назад

      Russians are probably saying the same about you right now. "How could they arm those Ukrainian terrorists?"

  • @debbiemillar5864
    @debbiemillar5864 Год назад

    Great video. I'm from Portadown in Northern Ireland. My ancestors are Ulster Scots- 'planters' and Irish protestants. We are an interesting country lol!

  • @booluther
    @booluther 2 года назад +9

    I’d love a reaction to a video of all the accents we have in the UK 😂

    • @microwavefish
      @microwavefish 2 года назад +2

      And Ireland too. People forget that there isn’t one British or Irish accent, it depends on exactly where you are.

    • @TylerRumple
      @TylerRumple  2 года назад +3

      Ha I will definitely have to do that, thanks booluther

  • @frankscarborough1428
    @frankscarborough1428 2 года назад +1

    I'm American and learned about the era known as the troubles. My mom also kept me updated about the sixties until about 1998 or 2000. She had relatives who came from Ireland during the potato famine in the 1850's. Sadly they never kept in touch but stories were handed down!

  • @marielouise9126
    @marielouise9126 2 года назад +1

    My Paternal Grandparent’s were from the Republic of Ireland and came to England during WW2 for work. They met and married in England. My Dad was brought up as a Catholic and my Mum is Church of England (CofE). No one bat an eyelid cause we live in England. The only person who had a problem was the Priest. He wanted me to be baptised and eventually my parents got me christened CofE when I was 8 😂 I got my kids christened CofE and then sent them to Catholic school, lol. We had a Catholic funeral for my Dad and my kids were able to participate which was good seeing as I had no clue 🤦‍♀️

  • @mgentles3
    @mgentles3 2 года назад +3

    Speak for YOUR generation. Mine is well aware of Northern AND Southern Ireland, and the conflict and the reasons behind the conflict. I'm commenting before the video begins, so if history gets twisted here, I'll be your 'I lived it' source for correcting the record. Northern Ireland flourished because, so many inhabitants being other than Irish, it assumed both the yoke and the advantages of England. Southern Ireland (like the Southern United States) was so severely oppressed for fighting against invasion that it had no chance to flourish. Its land had been given over to English Lords and the people weren't even lucky enough to be slaves, fed and housed, but were left to starve and become more barbaric rather than less.

  • @imagseer
    @imagseer 2 года назад +2

    I think you should find a video about the chaos and civil war which led to the set up of the Irish Free state in the early 1920's. The violence kicked off with the 1916 Easter Rising when the UK was fighting WW1 and the Germans offered to supply Irish the rebels with arms. It's really interesting with gangsters eventually becoming patriots and loads of double-crossing going on. Today there are more Catholics in Northern Ireland than Protestants, so a border poll (a referendum promised should the balance change in the Good Friday Agreement) to unify Ireland and kick the British out could well be possible soon. It would be tragic if this led to a new Irish civil war.

    • @rusticpartyeditz
      @rusticpartyeditz 2 года назад

      A border poll on a united ireland can only be triggered when there is a majority of people in NI who want a united ireland. There is no majority of catholics in NI, and a clear majority still want to stay in the UK (so some catholics don't sopport a united ireland).
      The phrase kick the British out shows why Northern Ireland exists and is the way it is.

  • @opiedopie
    @opiedopie 2 года назад +1

    Don't worry, you can still call it Ireland - everyone here does. It's only if you were being technical, specific or politic maybe that you would specify. I never say, "I live in the Republic of Ireland." ya know?

  • @catherinefitzgerald7291
    @catherinefitzgerald7291 2 года назад +2

    The Republic of Ireland is the real Ireland.

  • @TheJthom9
    @TheJthom9 2 года назад +1

    "There's a body of water between Ireland and Normandy." Normans did not encounter Ireland over the English Channel and Celtic Sea. They had already conquered England and encountered Ireland over the Irish Sea

  • @Mgaffo222
    @Mgaffo222 6 месяцев назад +1

    The British Isles are a geographical term that is not recognised by the republic of Ireland.

  • @normawilson7941
    @normawilson7941 2 года назад +2

    The first BRITISH colony was set up in James Town. We arrived in America and brought our religion and culture.

    • @shelleyphilcox4743
      @shelleyphilcox4743 2 года назад

      Jamestown founded just a few years after the Scottish monarchy took over England on the death of Elizabeth I.

  • @thecaptaingrimm
    @thecaptaingrimm 2 года назад +1

    I did expect my home town of Portadown to be mentioned in this video

  • @MrPaulMorris
    @MrPaulMorris 2 года назад +2

    "Americans don't know anything about Northern Ireland" Sadly, that ignorance never stopped the flow of money from the US to the IRA. While Colonel Gaddafi may have supplied the weapons used to kill civilians, Police and servicemen, he wasn't running a charity and those supplies were largely paid for by American dollars.
    I spent 12 years in the armed forces during the period of the 'Troubles' and have to tell you that we spent much more time and energy worrying about the risk of terrorist attack by the IRA and other nationalist groups than we did the threat from the Soviet Union. From checking your car for bombs every time before getting in to the endless security measures around every base. From never wearing uniform off duty to avoiding mentioning your occupation in public. Nobody was safe from police and prison officers to politicians and even the Royal Family, to say nothing of random shoppers going about their lives.
    The picture shown of the 'Brighton bombing' was of the hotel targeted in which were staying the Prime Minister, Margaret Thatcher, and most of her Cabinet. Perhaps even more shocking was the assassination of Lord Mountbatten, a man who had served with distinction in the Royal Navy in both the first and second World Wars and who was Uncle to Prince Philip, husband, of course, to our late Queen Elizabeth.

  • @hansgruber788
    @hansgruber788 2 года назад +4

    Now not being mean, but you literally watched the history of England including the 1066 Norman - yes Normandy - conquest of England.

  • @normawilson7941
    @normawilson7941 2 года назад +6

    We the Ulster Scots some call us Scots Irish. We are of the PROTESTANT faith. We are BRITISH. We fought in the war against the British with Washington. We contributed to your constitution.
    We are not CATHOLIC.
    So you should be ashamed that you don’t know your history. DAVY CROCKETT was an ULSTER PROTESTANT and we gave you 18 PRESIDENTS all directly descended from ULSTER.
    I do get cross with the ignorance of AMERICANS.

    • @ianwalker5842
      @ianwalker5842 2 года назад +1

      It's just breathtaking, and infuriating, you're right.

    • @zenonorth1193
      @zenonorth1193 2 года назад +2

      Your irritation is perfectly understandable. For what it's worth, let's give Tyler some credit for at least trying to dispel some of his ignorance. I still think he'd learn a lot more by actually reading a book, or seriously studying an Atlas, but this is a start.

    • @zenonorth1193
      @zenonorth1193 2 года назад +1

      @Robert Stallard I know, but wouldn't it be great if it did?😀

    • @B-A-L
      @B-A-L 2 года назад

      You fought AGAINST the British with Washington and you are the one saying this guy should be ashamed?

  • @GiordanoBruno42
    @GiordanoBruno42 2 года назад +1

    I am from Manchester, England.
    I was alive when the Irish Republican Army bombed Manchester's city centre in 1996.
    Though I wasn't old enough to understand what happened at the time.
    The IRA called the police with a warning beforehand, so the city was evacuated.
    It was the largest bomb detonated on British soil since WW2.
    Nobody was killed.
    It's a common joke in Manchester that the IRA bombing accidentally helped the city, by forcing a lot of government spending on regeneration, after the sheer destruction.
    I'm sure there are people out there who still hold to the old hatreds, but I am not one of them.
    I am an atheist for one, so the whole religious side of the conflict seems pointless in the first place.
    There's still political tension at times, but I think nobody seriously wants to go back to the troubles.

    • @iandodds3218
      @iandodds3218 Год назад

      I was 10 and found myself in the middle of it

  • @gavinhall6040
    @gavinhall6040 2 года назад +5

    Rearrange these words...."open, words, can, a, & of" -

    • @gordoncampbell3514
      @gordoncampbell3514 2 года назад +1

      can words open a & of... or do you mean. Open a can of worms

    • @gavinhall6040
      @gavinhall6040 2 года назад

      @@gordoncampbell3514 no

  • @annedunne4526
    @annedunne4526 2 года назад +2

    It's sad that some of this is not taught to Americans in school. After all they speak English and the language was changed forever by the Normans who brought their brand of French to England and it came closer to our modern English language. Also the video seems to have glossed over the famine, which has defined us since the 1840s and was the time when most of the Irish went to the USA. And the Republic of Ireland is more prosperous now than Northern Ireland.

    • @annfrancoole34
      @annfrancoole34 2 года назад

      How much American history did you learn in school

    • @neuralwarp
      @neuralwarp 2 года назад

      I think it's sad the English get the blame for everything, including what the Irish, Scots, and Welsh did as kings and prime ministers of the UK.
      Did you realise there's never been an actual Englishman on the throne of England? The last two dynasties, for example, have been German.

    • @annedunne4526
      @annedunne4526 2 года назад

      @@annfrancoole34 We studied Irish history, British history, the history of North America and the histories of Western Europe. Since millions of Irish people went to the U S, it's the history of our ancestors too.

    • @Dr_KAP
      @Dr_KAP 2 года назад

      There is a big difference between public and private education in the US. Private schools seem to have a more extensive curriculum.

  • @evanpeel2703
    @evanpeel2703 2 года назад +1

    Great video, Tyler! I recommend you check out the channel feature history and the 2 part video they did on The Troubles.

  • @andyt8216
    @andyt8216 2 года назад +2

    He really should have mentioned that the Republic of Ireland is now much much richer than the North.
    You’d think from this that the North is still some success story in comparison with the Republic.
    In addition, under the Good Friday Agreement, should a majority in the North want unification with the Republic then a referendum will happen and the northern counties will join the Republic of Ireland.

    • @Tam19399
      @Tam19399 2 года назад +1

      That would be the Republic that was bailed out by the UK in 2008

    • @andyt8216
      @andyt8216 2 года назад +2

      @@Tam19399 oh FFS. It’s one of the richest countries in the world. And 2008 is 14 years ago. I’m sure however they appreciate your (and mine) taxes making that happen.

    • @AM-dz2sh
      @AM-dz2sh 2 года назад

      @@Tam19399 Along with many other countries, due to a GLOBAL recession

    • @seankavanagh7625
      @seankavanagh7625 2 года назад

      @@Tam19399 The EU gave us 63.5 billion. Ye gave us 3.7 billion, it's already repaid with the interest you asked for by the way. This is like when ye say you won two world wars after the US came in to save ye, twice. Three times if you count Northern Ireland.

  • @tommykelly5830
    @tommykelly5830 2 года назад +1

    I am American and I knew this since I was a boy

  • @antonymash9586
    @antonymash9586 2 года назад +2

    I do not have a huge amount of respect for Priminister Tony Blair however I will grant him the credit he deserves for the good friday agreement. Kudos goes to all involved; it wasnt perfect but it secured a generation of peace the people deserved.

    • @neuralwarp
      @neuralwarp 2 года назад +1

      That was Mo Mowlem. Blair did bugger all.

    • @antonymash9586
      @antonymash9586 2 года назад

      @@neuralwarp I still give him all the credit he actualy deserves, no matter how little.

  • @76ludlow
    @76ludlow 2 года назад +1

    The state of Northern ireland was carved out of Ireland by the British just over 100 years ago as a forever bastion of Protestant unionism in ireland. Basically, the six counties that comprise the northern state were intended as the largest possible area where unionists and Protestants would retain a stable, unassailable and permanent majority, and to make this happen fellow Protestants in the three remaining Ullster counties: Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan, were abandoned to their fate. The British drew the line excluding those three counties because their inclusion in the proposed Protestant state would have brought in too many Catholics as well. At its inception the population was around two thirds Protestant and one third Catholic. These populations were distributed unevenly, such that Protestants only had majority status in four counties: Armagh, Down, Antrim and Derry, while Catholics were predominant in Fermanagh and Tyrone. The state of Northern Ireland was thus designed to ensure that Protestants would always be the majority and that Catholics would never outnumber them, and this was further ensured by 50 years of unionist misrule where Catholics were discriminated against in the areas of votes, housing and employment, which had the desired result of continued high rates of Catholic emigration which helped keep Catholic numbers down. Today, the entire point of the state of Northern ireland has been thrown into doubt with the 2021 census figures showing Catholics now outnumbering Protestants for the first time. Despite their best efforts to ensure that this could never happen the whole project has failed and there will be increasing demands for a border poll to bring an end to the sectarian state that should never have been born.

    • @rusticpartyeditz
      @rusticpartyeditz 2 года назад

      There is still no majority in NI for a united ireland. Catholics outnumbering Prodestants does not mean there is support for a united ireland. Some catholics must not support it!
      And people can demand what they want. Until polls shows a majority in NI for a united ireland (which is certainly not the case currently) , there will be no border poll.

    • @76ludlow
      @76ludlow 2 года назад

      @@rusticpartyeditz And there's no majority for the UK as well.

    • @rusticpartyeditz
      @rusticpartyeditz 2 года назад

      @@76ludlow The majority of people in NI want to stay in the UK. So yes there is a majority.

    • @76ludlow
      @76ludlow 2 года назад

      @@rusticpartyeditz But absolutely not a unionist majority. That is gone and isn't coming back.

  • @Psyk60
    @Psyk60 2 года назад +2

    Catholics actually outnumber Protestants in Northern Ireland now. That was in the 2021 census results which were released yesterday.

    • @Tam19399
      @Tam19399 2 года назад

      Did you forget the atheists and agnostics?

    • @Psyk60
      @Psyk60 2 года назад +1

      @@Tam19399 No, I didn't forget them. I'm just saying there are now more Catholics than Protestants.
      Neither are the majority, because about 10% are either of a different religion or are atheist/agnostic.
      Also bear in mind that the census includes people who identify as culturally Catholic/Protestant or were raised Catholic/Protestant. So some of them may actually hold atheist or agnostic beliefs.

    • @sunseeker9581
      @sunseeker9581 2 года назад

      Whether they all want a united Ireland is another question as that could bring back the troubles. Whole things a mess.

    • @Psyk60
      @Psyk60 2 года назад

      @@sunseeker9581 Yeah, it seems a significant number of Catholics are ok with staying in the UK. So it's not a given this will lead to a united Ireland any time soon.

    • @mrmarcus6200
      @mrmarcus6200 2 года назад

      @@Psyk60 in a united ireland border poll which will come in the next 20 years for sure, what it will boil down to is the following - Approx 30% of the population will vote to stay with UK no matter what. Similarly 30% will vote United Ireland no matter what. Its the middle 40% that will be swayed by jobs, health, education, security and prospects. To be honest, with Brexit and EU issues still ongoing, recession, energy, uk gov borrowing hundreds of billions, ukraine crisis etc etc, its not a given that NI people are going to be better off in the UK than joining with Ireland. Time will tell.

  • @rachelmccullough1518
    @rachelmccullough1518 Месяц назад +1

    I'm from northern ireland but I don't care what u call me northern Irish or Irish but I don't like being called British as technically Britain is Scotland England Wales not northern ireland.
    I was also born in the 90s so during the troubles. I'm so happy other people are learning that we are a country too

  • @samsativa245
    @samsativa245 2 года назад +10

    You didn't know Ireland had Celtic history? Mate, Ireland is THE country you think of when you hear the word Celts or Celtic.

    • @michael_177
      @michael_177 2 года назад +1

      he's taking the piss, he doesn't even read comments

    • @B-A-L
      @B-A-L 2 года назад +1

      Tell that to the Scottish, especially to the footie fans!

    • @samsativa245
      @samsativa245 2 года назад

      @@B-A-L You mean that side of Scotland which all have Irish ancestry through immigration?

    • @neuralwarp
      @neuralwarp 2 года назад

      Well, I think about Galatia, but I'm weird.

    • @gallowglass2630
      @gallowglass2630 Год назад

      @@B-A-L It was named by a man from ballymote County sligo ireland

  • @mpg272727
    @mpg272727 2 года назад +4

    Oh boy this comment section is going to be spicy

  • @manudude02
    @manudude02 3 месяца назад

    There are still plenty of peace walls set up in Northern Ireland to separate Catholic areas from Protestant areas a good 25 years after the Good Friday Agreement. There have also been recent ripples of troubles due to Brexit. While not a perfect match, the people who want a united Ireland (mostly Catholics) are called Nationalists and those who want NI to remain in the UK (mostly Protestants) are called Unionists.

  • @sporkfindus4777
    @sporkfindus4777 2 года назад

    Brian May at 10:41
    At 10:14 "I feel like there's some conflict about to start" - there's an understatement. I remember growing up in the 90s, two long term stories dominated the news: the ongoing troubles in Northern Ireland and the building of the Channel Tunnel. Obviously, it would've been far worse for those actually involved in it.
    It's a shame that Mr History didn't include John Watson in that list of athletes: arguably the greatest overtaker in F1 history and almost won the 1982 championship.

  • @leeloxleigh1471
    @leeloxleigh1471 Год назад

    The troubles weren't just confined to Northern Ireland. As a child growing up in England in the 1970s, we got use to having to evacuate shopping centres and trains because of bomb scares from the IRA. The mainland (England) saw its fare share of bombings during this time.

  • @Krokostad
    @Krokostad 2 года назад +1

    About the normans and William the conqueror: You should watch Oversimplifieds video "The war that changed the English language".

  • @donaldb1
    @donaldb1 2 года назад +2

    I think you heard about Cromwell in the English Civil War video. He ruled England for a bit after King Charles I was beheaded.

  • @GemmaMiss
    @GemmaMiss 2 года назад +3

    It was just announced today that there’s a catholic majority for the first time in the North. Lots of talk in Ireland about getting ready for some form of unity. England has to agree to referendum though.

    • @rusticpartyeditz
      @rusticpartyeditz 2 года назад +1

      Only talk is from Sinn Fein. They'd talk about it if the day ended in day. There is no majority in NI for a united ireland, so many Catholics don't want it either!

    • @ShamFraeTheToon
      @ShamFraeTheToon 2 года назад +1

      Dont forget that there is 65,000 people living in Northern Ireland from other EU countries and most of them will be of Catholic persuasion. Where do you think their allegiance will lye, will they vote for a United Ireland if they even have a vote just because they are Catholic or will they stay where they know where their butter is best buttered......people never think about that......also the figures released about last years census depicts roughly speaking two thirds of the population class themselves as either British or Northern Irish only a third class themselves as republican......Gems it all boils down to republicans shout loudest and the whole world thinks Northern Ireland wants to be part of Ireland, if that ever is going to happen which I doubt in my lifetime Ireland and Irish republicanism has a long long way to go convince unionism to move out of the UK....Best Wishes.

    • @rusticpartyeditz
      @rusticpartyeditz 2 года назад +1

      @@ShamFraeTheToon Thank you for some common sense. Watching the news here, you would think the census figures were the end of the world.

    • @yermanoffthetelly
      @yermanoffthetelly 2 года назад

      @@ShamFraeTheToon lol, some serious mental gymnastics going on there. Your gonna be one of the boat people when it happens. The Brits are gonna ship you to Rwanda 🤣🤣🤣

  • @jgsheehan8810
    @jgsheehan8810 2 года назад

    Growing up as a teenager in the 70s it seemed like Nth Ireland and the IRA were on the news everyday.

  • @samstevens7888
    @samstevens7888 2 года назад +2

    The Normans remember you watched a video about William the Bastard who became William the Conqueror?

  • @Judgement419
    @Judgement419 2 года назад +1

    Cromwell was basically Hitler to Ireland. He was responsible for the deaths of 600k Irish people, yet there's still a statue of him outside the British parliament.
    Also the term "British Isles" is not recognised at all in Ireland as it's a product of colonialism and implied ownership. Our island is not British.

  • @jimgill19770
    @jimgill19770 2 года назад +1

    The Celts moved to England & Ireland, from Central Europe, at about 1000bc. Approx 300 years after, Celtic split into 2 dialects: p Celtic (which became Welsh & Cornish), and Q Celtic (which became Irish / Scottish).
    When Caesar landed in the 1st century, he noted how the whole place had been overrun by Celts.

    • @BrianBorumaMacCennetig367
      @BrianBorumaMacCennetig367 9 месяцев назад

      Incorrect.

    • @jimgill19770
      @jimgill19770 9 месяцев назад

      @@BrianBorumaMacCennetig367 no, correct

    • @BrianBorumaMacCennetig367
      @BrianBorumaMacCennetig367 9 месяцев назад

      incorrect. Archeology, genetics and linguistics all debunks the Celtic invasion myth.
      Also scotland got its q celtic speakers from ireland who only lived in Argyll in the early years.

    • @jimgill19770
      @jimgill19770 8 месяцев назад

      @BrianBorumaMacCennetig367 before we get crossed wires, are you saying that Celtic was introduced via Ireland, or that the celtic invasion never happened, because I definitely remember reading about Ceasar commenting that the place was overrun with Celts.
      Also, what do you believe caused the split into P & Q Celtic and why there was a definite North / South divide; surely P Celtic wouldn't even be a thing if it was only introduced to Scotland via Ireland?
      I'm happy to be corrected, but i have read differing opinions 🤷‍♂️

    • @BrianBorumaMacCennetig367
      @BrianBorumaMacCennetig367 8 месяцев назад

      @@jimgill19770 The celtic invasion never happened we have zero evidence, infact the evidence contradicts it, The idea of the celtic invasion was invented in the 18th century by Edward Lhuyd. Celt was a generic term used by the romans not an actual people.
      We don't know what caused the P and Q celtic split even Gaul might have had P and Q celts, the difference is minor it was more like an accent then a different language before the collapse of the roman empire.
      I don't follow you in relation to scotland.

  • @RaySpillane
    @RaySpillane 2 года назад

    A quick heads up,on the video. Fitst up, a lot of those 'famous' people at the end of the video identify themselves as Irish rather than British (or can't make up their minds which side they're on). On the wealth side of things, the economy in the Republic of Ireland now surpasses that of the Northern Ireland in terms of GDP, whose system is heavily supported by funding from the British government, without which Northern Ireland would be a failed state (although the Republic of Ireland is up to it's neck in foreign debt just like the US especially post COVID). The current 'peace' status in Northern Ireland is due in no small part to the high input from former US President Bill Clinton and senator George Mitchell in brokering the Anglo Irish Agreement in 1998, although on certain occasions tensions between the two factions (Protestant Unionists & Catholic Republicans) remain high, often breaking out into violet sometimes fatal, skirmishes between the two groups.

  • @thierryf67
    @thierryf67 2 года назад

    Ireland is the island. on it there at the moment two political entities : republic of Ireland, and Northern Ireland (within U.K.).

  • @stevenmiklasinski3705
    @stevenmiklasinski3705 2 года назад

    I think the Normans refers to people from scandinavia, Vikings from Norway and Denmark (normans - the north men). Normandy is a region in France where scandinavians settled and that is why it's called Normandy. So Ireland wasn't invaded by people from Normandy.

  • @jasonwales6502
    @jasonwales6502 2 года назад +1

    Yanks usually make the distinction by calling their heritage Irish or Scots Irish..

  • @gastrickbunsen1957
    @gastrickbunsen1957 2 года назад

    I'm from Ballymurphy and we used to dread American tourists as they didn't realise the status quo and would often cause riots on: the Falls, Springfield and Whiterock roads.

  • @jensschroder8214
    @jensschroder8214 2 года назад +2

    Wrong question. Why did Ireland leave the UK without Northern Ireland?
    Should Northern Ireland belong to the UK or to Ireland? That is the problem.
    But one thing has been decided. Northern Ireland and Ireland are part of the EU, the UK is no longer.
    Although the UK now no longer wants to comply with the Treaty with the EU over Northern Ireland.
    And so we are back in the middle of the problem.

    • @jensschroder8214
      @jensschroder8214 2 года назад +1

      England's economic war against the EU. Boris Johnson had signed with the EU that Northern Ireland would remain in the EU but the UK would leave the EU. There should be a customs border between Northern Ireland and the UK. Once in London, Johnson said Northern Ireland remains part of the UK. It even went so far that the UK threatened to wage an economic war against the EU. The EU agreed and pointed out to London that the EU had the upper hand. After that, the economic war was called off in London and a minister was dismissed. The next minister got the same task and failed again.
      The EU points out that a hard border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland would start another civil war.
      At the moment, London is playing to postpone the problem.

    • @rusticpartyeditz
      @rusticpartyeditz 2 года назад

      Northern Ireland is not in the EU. We are covered by single market and customs union rules, but we are not in the customs union. It is a half baked system underwritten by the protocol.
      And Northern Ireland is still part of the UK. To distinguish the rest of the UK, use GB.

  • @MichelleEvans_CatLady
    @MichelleEvans_CatLady 2 года назад

    This video only scratches the surface there are a lot more in depth videos. They also skipped over the famine which was really a genocide by the British

  • @h-Qalziel
    @h-Qalziel 2 года назад +1

    If you want to look at inventions and contributions to science then you should definitely look at Scotland. It was said of Scotland that 'no other country has contributed to the world more than Scotland than perhaps Greece'. However, Northern Ireland has also contributed a lot!

  • @careytitan9097
    @careytitan9097 2 года назад

    The Celts were a collection of tribes with origins in central Europe that shared a similar language, religious beliefs, traditions and culture. It’s believed that the Celtic culture started to evolve as early as 1200 B.C. The Celts were known as The Barbarians. The Celts spread throughout western Europe-including Britain, Ireland, France and Spain-via invasion/migration. Their legacy remains most prominent in Ireland and Great Britain, where traces of their language and culture are still prominent today. So going back far enough in time, the Celts are the invaders of Ireland. Catholicism was founded by the Romans in 30 AD.

  • @dawn5227
    @dawn5227 2 года назад

    Something that's interesting about N.Ireland as of the census collected last year N.Ireland for the first time is now predominantly Catholic.

    • @paulowens6004
      @paulowens6004 2 года назад

      Not predominantly. Barely. The influx of Polish, Portuguese, the African Nations etc have helped, being predominantly Catholic countries.

  • @LouLou10000
    @LouLou10000 2 года назад

    Also, get this, Irish and English rulers, top dogs, often married in Ireland but wives were sometimes kidnapped and made to marry the kidnapper, have kids , then kidnapped back, thus the children from both unions with same mother sometimes were made to marry so everyone could be friends again, half sister half brother, it ended fueds, I found that out in my own family tree after a few months of confused searching