How to hookup a Bass Shaker
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Int his video we discuss a few possible ways to hook up a bass shaker to an amplifier and how to power the amplifier. We will also discuss how to hook up multiple amplifiers for multiple bass shakers.
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Thanks a lot - followed your tutorial and it works great.
I added one thing: "DC 12V-24V Low-pass Filter NE5532" (see ebay/amazon).
It allowed me to keep subwoofer crossover at 80hz and to cut off 50-80hz range from the bass shaker.
Without it sometimes higher frequencies were leaking into my couch!
Great video!!!
I just installed some bass shakers in my home theater and I am completely floored with the results. This was far one of the best investments I’ve made so far to my home theater. I have a full Dolby Atmos 7.4.4 setup. I have four 12 inch subwoofers included in my setup. These bass shakers are a must have period. I own the AuraSound AST-2B-4 Pro Bass Shaker Tactile Transducers. I’m using three Emotiva A-100 amplifiers to push 6 bass shakers. Just one bass shaker for each my theater seats.
I found the single guy.
Damn these headphones are good. I thought I had a kid for a second...
hahaha made me chuckle
scared the shit out of me
One problem is that as you split an output channel this way you decrease the mvDC to each input by I believe a loss of 2-3dB, which causes input starvation and causes input signal distortion. That is why preamps are used, to maintain not only voltage input but waveform integrity. Might be worth checking this out. Also, being the RCA Cable would likely have a long run to remote location, you must consider any AC Circuitry that it runs near.
Years ago, I had a car system that the owner had sworn he had grounded properly, however; he had ran his RCA Amp lines near power to car accessory wiring down one side. Well, he could not get rid of alternator noise. I pointed out the RCA Lines needed to be isolated. It happened that the passenger side had no power ran down and we simply moved the lines. AC Noise is not always blocked by shielding.
Great Success and Rock The Tunes!!!
I think Einstein said 'Keep it simple' - as you did it. To me the best hookup & fitting video i found on YT.
Thanx & L I K E for it !!!
Cheers, ART FLY
ART FLY thank you!
Really? At what timestamp exactly was the hook up demonstration done?
FYI: 50W max (peak) does not = 50W continuous (RMS)! So a 50W peaks is likely 20-30W RMS.
I just bought the aurasound bundle with Dayton amp .
Do you recommend any settings like HPF and LPF ?
Should I leave HPF off and only turn on LPF ?
Thanks
@@lollipolly-am4323 I use SimHub and set the effects tdo how it feels like 30Hz-80Hz range. Cross-overs usually cuts all high frequencies over 80Hz so your bass only receives a signal < 80Hz. These bass shakers can prob go dow nto 20Hz...depends on how id feels on your rig. Mounting basses on plywood lessens the power so I suggest bolting to metal. I'm using the plate that comes with cheap TV wall mount since it has slots predrilled and comes with many bolts for $15.
If you set the receiver to a cut off frequency of 80 Hz will that effect your sub woofer sound? Since both signals come from the same source.
Bolt to metal since wood absorbs too much vibrations so requires more power.
good vid. nice info to have.
How to use those Sure amps or even a Dayton but in a car? So, 12V DC to say 20V DC?
I just bought the aurasound bundle with Dayton amp .
Do you recommend any settings like HPF and LPF ?
Should I leave HPF off and only turn on LPF ?
Thanks
Do I need speakers and a subwoofer, or am I good to go without them? I'm planning on just using headphones for now.
No you just need the rumble pad. No headphones either. Screw it straight to the back of your skull.
My Onkyo AVR has 2 subwoofer outs and I have 1 subwoofer connected to the Subwoofer 1 output. If I want to connect a bass shaker, should I connect that to my Subwoofer 2 output? If yes, should I configure my AVR for 7.1.4 or 7.2.4?
Yes. And you would configure at 7.2.4
Good video. Wish you had included part names for the bass shaker, amp, & power supply in the text description below.
Marzen good point. I thought they were in the description. I'll have to add that tonight
Please please please add the part names or links for purchase for the items you've talked about! It's been 4 months, pleeeeeaassseee.
@@moneeb343 It's been 2 years and we're still waiting, I grew a beard. :)
yeah i have hooked it up with my Yamaha 5.1 channel receiver,i can feel the bass shakers working but not to its optimum. I am not sure how to cutoff frequency though..
hi if you haven't hooked up to your subwoofer out on the back of your receiver, all you have to do is go into your settings. in your settings there will be a subwoofer cutoff frequency. if you're unsure how to do that just look at your model number and find your manual online. Yamaha has all their manuals online for record.
hello i know this is a old video but I have a question for you and maybe you can help. I see a lot of people use a plate amp to power these bass shakers. I currently have a Polk Audio PSW10 and on the back of the amp it has a low pass through filter and speaker level input/output. Would I be able to use the back of the polk subwoofer to power the 2 bass shakers? Thanks for your help and time.
I got a solid piece of wood
hi i have installed everything as per your description, but undure how to cut the frequency in board amps
If you're hooking it up via a surround sound receiver, you just use it's internal cut off in it's settings. I am assuming you have it hooked up to your subwoofer out
You may want to go slightly higher than 100 watts on the power supply, maybe 105 or 110 to counteract the small inefficiency of the amplifier boards. And nonetheless, those amplifier boards can usually only supply 100 watts into two ohms, and those bass shakers are probably four, meaning you will not experience the full potential of them. But nonetheless, a good project that adds another element to a standard movie experience.
James Collins you are right. I didn't want to go too far into the inefficiencies of the amplifiers. This Sure amplifier is actually a 2x50 watt at 4 ohms. If you want to check it out, here's the amplifier. It's a pretty awesome little amplifier. www.parts-express.com/sure-electronics-aa-ab32178-2x50w-4-ohm-class-d-audio-amplifier-board-tpa3116--320-3342
Yes, they are very nice little amplifiers. I have used similar ones myself for projects. And for $22 the price is almost unbeatable!
what if I get signal loss in case of hooking up several amplifiers? is there a device / board or something like that, which can amplify signal out of my receiver and be able to hook up several shaker amplifiers??
I am assuming you are asking about the RCA output. And if you split it too much, that you actually hinder the signal. They do seel RCA signal boosters if you need it. Most people do not need it. Of course, if you are really concerned with that, it may be best for you to use a subwoofer amp or rack amp to power all your bass shakers.
What sound frequency range can be set? Is 80Hz the minimum that can be set when you hook it up using the first method you describe?
Donald Clay It depends on the subwoofer plate amplifier you buy. Typically they have a knob that can adjust the cutoff frequency from 40hz to 200hz.
Unless you're hooking it up with an amp board like I am. In this case, you would want to set the frequency cut-off in your receiver.
Hi.Great video!!! Thanks for your information. Iam building a DIY playseat and ik was wondering What type of board amp you use. can you please inform me where you ordered your board and brand etcetera quality loods good. Thanks and looking forward for your reply.
I highly recommend this amp, which is the one I used in the video. You can hook up to 2 bass shakers to it. www.parts-express.com/sure-electronics-aa-ab32178-2x50w-4-ohm-class-d-audio-amplifier-board-tpa3116--320-3342 As for a power supply, if you do not want to use the one I choose, you could use this one: www.parts-express.com/24-vdc-475a-power-supply-with-25-x-55mm-plug-and-led-indicator--129-160
Another option, is to use a 2.1 amp. Then you can hook up 1 bass shaker to the subwoofer channel and the 2 speakers to the other 2 channels. This way you only need 1 power source. Now I personally have not used this board, so I cannot speak to how well it performs, but it should work for what you are trying to do. www.aliexpress.com/item/E74-2-1-High-Power-Power-Amplifier-50w-50W-100W-HIFI-Digital-Subwoofer-Amplifier-Verst-Board/32604810447.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.1.cDldPJ&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4_10065_10068_10000074_10000032_119_10000025_10000029_10000028_10060_10000067_10062_10056_10055_10000062_10054_10059_10099_10000022_10000013_10103_10102_10000016_10096_10000018_10000019_10000056_10000059_10052_10053_10107_10050_10106_10051_10000053_10000007_10000050_10084_10083_10000047_10080_10082_10081_10110_10111_10112_10113_10114_10115_10037_10033_10000041_10000044_10078_10079_10077_10000038_10073_10000035_10122_10121,searchweb201603_3,afswitch_3,single_sort_3_default&btsid=b18cd23b-2587-4125-babe-3aac8108fddc Granted, this amp probably will not be as good as the sure amplifier I used in the video.
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Thanks for your information. Iam gone build two shakers inside my playseat.👍
Nando van Roon That is Awesome! You're going to have the best playseat around!
hi
i have watched your video several times,i just want to ask you where could i buy subwoofer plate amp i have lookwd on ebay its so confusing. Please advise
thanks
hi www.parts-express.com/cat/subwoofer-plate-amplifiers/332. They can help answer any questions you have on the specific amplifiers as well
i am getting one as a gift, what kind of cables do i need to connect it to my desktop sound card? also what is the best placement for pc gaming chair?
Best to go to www.toidsdiyaudio.com/community we can draw your diagram and follow the progress of what you do. And help out along the way if you need it
@@Toid thanks for so quick reply. i did a bit of digging and it seems that i am still going to need amplifier, 3.5mm audio cable and 3.5mm to 2-male RCA adapter, is that all or ami missing something? great vid btw +1
can i hook these on a 4 x 80watt car audio amplifier or it could famage the BST-1's? i have a piponeer car audio amplifier modified for home use on which i have 2 buttkicker gamer 2 transducres which work like a charm with the amplifier so, i am thinking of buying a pair of BST's to hook 'em on the remainig free 2 channels of the amplifier.
so I want to hock up a small amplifier board. but my problem is: most I found are without any bass tuning or cutoff, and got an imput of maybe 20W, but telling me they have 100W of power^^ So Im kinda helpless right now.
Want to use two shakers for my cars front seats, so 12V input would be nice.
DESCENT Do you have an aftermarket head unit I your car? if so, you just need to use the sub out RCA cable to hook up to the shown amplifier which can input a 12v source. then your head unit already has the cut off in its settings.
123Toid wouldn't I loose 50% of power with only 12V?
just changed my mind and took the project into my living room.
bought a 240V to 24V 20A up to 42V converter.
two shakers and two 24-34V boards with 80W per channel.
kinda pumped!
got two amps and a big pwrsupply for "upgradeability" 😅
DESCENT you would not lose power going with a 12v source, you just would need more amperage to get the same power. remember volts x Amps = Watts. so with a 12v source you'd need 8 amps to get 96 watts or about 48 watts per speaker. Unfortunately I couldn't tell you how many amps your car would supply. If it is less than 8 amps then, you can always get a buck converter which will take a 12v source to a 24v source.
I am pumped to hear your putting it in your car! I can't wait to hear what you think of it.
123Toid well, more amps equal more heat. I gues the board would hit a limit in some way.
I may get a dedicated Monoblock for my car just for the shakers. So I could easily change the volume and cut of frequency.
Hey, i saw the video and have a question. Can i used 2 of those 50w Dayton shakers on 1 Wondom ampliflier or do i need 2. Also if i use 1 ampliflier for 2 shakers on it do i also need 2 of the RS 100 power supply.
That is a great question. If you want to run two 50w bass shakers, you can use just one 2x50w wondom board. However you do need a 100w power supply to power the board. I have 4 shakers, both sets are hooked up to the wondom board and each has an RS100 power supply. Just remember if you do it this way, you need to hook it up to your LFE output on your receiver
ok, thanks for the response. So if i want those 2 shakers i can run them on the wondom board and i should be able to put them on 1 RS 100 power supply.
You got it!
12 x 6 = 72 not 48
6*12=48
AlbanyHauntCA Haha, nice. I didn't even catch that. I scratched my head when I first saw what you wrote then I looked back at the video. Nice catch
please can you give me the web. to buy the power supply and the amp
Here is the amp: www.parts-express.com/sure-electronics-aa-ab32178-2x50w-4-ohm-class-d-audio-amplifier-board-tpa3116--320-3342 and here is the power supply www.jameco.com/z/RS-100-24-MEAN-WELL-AC-to-DC-Power-Supply-Single-Output-24-Volt-4-5-Amp-108-Watt_323732.html?CID=GOOG&gclid=CjwKCAjwwbHWBRBWEiwAMIV7E8O72CeefreWPBnbkNuxrLCN-czrRLrGz9wFYk1IGyDPNqJ-xNnc3RoCpJEQAvD_BwE
Im researching this for a flight sim gaming chair setup so i dont have a home theater or a subwoofer amp or anyhting so could i use a normal 3.5mm jack from a sound card on my computer with a splitter and adapters as the signal with a crossover for control and one of those 100 watt boards with relative success?
jake i absolutely. Just plug it out of your subwoofer out on your 5.1 sound card. Some sound cards even let you assign it nowadays
well son of a bitch, i had no i idea i even had a subwoofer out on my sound card lol thanks.
3:18 How is 12V x 6A is 48W?
Good catch. I misspoke. That should have been 72 watts of power and each speaker would get a total of 36 watts. I'll add an annotation. Thanks for the catch!
@@Toid Rip annotations, they were helpful
Hi everyone I have yamaha amplifier rx- v 557 and subwoofer pioneer S-W 110 S-K (amplified)
I would like to add 1 or 2 bass shakers for driving seat with ps4.
On sub there s both input and output line.
Do you recommend something about?
Do I need other components or just the amplified subwoofer?
The fact that ampli is at 8 ohms and the subwoofer at 4 ohm alter smth?
Thank you
You will need an amplifier to drive the bass shakers. I would recommend the same ones I used in the video with the meanwell power supply. You can get the amplifier right from parts express (assuming they are 50w bass shakers). www.parts-express.com/sure-electronics-aa-ab32178-2x50w-4-ohm-class-d-audio-amplifier-board-tpa3116--320-3342
123Toid I could choose a larger amp then to integrate in total 4 shakers, reckhorn bs 400.
www.amazon.it/dp/B00AMH17GC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_ERRMzb8T1X306
These amps
Spl 400
www.ebay.it/itm/111221421318
or
E-400
www.ebay.it/itm/401380593776
So basically I take only 2 reckhorns bs400, and then add 2 more later on, maybe use the only 2 channels using a parallel connection.
Hi, It's possible to connect this system to a sound bar home theater system like a Nakamichi Shockwafe Ultra 9.2?
Hi thanks for the vid. Ok so it needs 50rms your little amp is max50 which im asuming is rms. Im looking at these for a race sim and never played with them, but have a fair amount of car audio. One of the golden rules i have always used with amps is to get headroom so more amps than the speaker needs is head room not an issue with shakers?
Mark Newcombe great question. You are right that you're not getting up here 50 Watts because of the efficiency and loss. But I'm getting somewhere between 40 and 45 watts and have absolutely no complaints. They got harder than most would want. Of course you can and just sat with your gain. If you want more Headroom you can definitely use a different amp, you just have to be careful with powering it too much. They have an RMS of 50 Watts, but I haven't found anywhere words published how many watts you can actually give it without blowing it. So I'd rather stay on the safe side
123Toid thanks for the reply mate. I must be thinking slightly off again im doing research for a race sim which im really looking forward to but only really have experience with car audio. I totally agree lets not push stacks of watts into the shaker but i thaught it is better to have higher rated amps running less then there max because its safer on the amp and i could be wrong but i also believe it gives a cleaner signal. As i want to mount and wire it all in the rig im trying to make sure im not going to over heat orcworse still burn out the amps. Thanks so much fo making this best ive seen honestly. I can just go and buy butt kicker set up but i just get no satisfaction unless i built modded or set up myself i thunk i enjoy the build more than the end result abd im always trying to do it on a budget. I even taught myself how to work with fiberglass and sew just so i could build my own race seat which ended up bwing carbon. Keep em coming mate the journey is always more memorable than the destination.
One criticism. This is a 10 minute how to video where you don't actually connect anything up and show it working. It would make sense to actually plug stuff in to demonstrate results, rather than just talking about what you would do.
bro I take the bass shaker and put my speaker wires in it and it works
Bl_Eric Eric Stump Yeah, it'll work. However, if you don't have a low pass filter on it, they won't work for long. They aren't designed to reproduce high frequencies. The one I used want you to cross it over at 80 hz. Meaning anything over that has the potential to make the driver fail rather quickly. And if it doesn't fail, it'll sound terrible, as it starts playing high frequency sounds that you don't want to hear.
123Toid yea true but I just connect shit and if it works I'm happy I got a sub box with a aux input and aux output so if I just play music through the sub it plays low frequencies then I connect my stereo to it and it plays high frequencies and everything sounds good
Eric Blox maybe to your ears but that might not be saying much
Thanks for the video. I am in the process of looking for an amp with 3.5mm input that can work with a single Dayton Audio 50 W bass shaker.
Can u pls explain how u calculated the total power to 48 watts? I was thinking 6 Amp 12 V will be 72 Watts?
Also what will happen if i attached a mono 100W amp to this bass shaker:
www.amazon.com/Nobsound-NS-03G-Subwoofer-Amplifier-Version/dp/B072KDNW3F?ref_=ast_bbp_dp
Thanks
You typically offer good videos and clear and thorough explanation of the tech your are covering, this video is a very unfortunate one. You know it didn't offered the minimum of your capabilities and knowledge. I'm still watching your videos however for me, this one was a thumb down!
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