They already have the design with mounts on them, but only release them on next generations product. Its the classic big brand move. I wouldn't even surprise if brand like apple intentionally put annoying bugs on my ipad to make me update, the bugs gone, but performance dropped, just for me to buy a new one 🤣
as much as I love the speed and size of NVME, keep in mind solid state drives don't do well for archival backup that sits around. Without power these deteriorate quickly and your files will become corrupt, can be as quick as a few years. NVME is great for working drives but not so much for backup and archival. For those it's best to use old school mechanical hdd.
ordered the Pro Blade Station, an intense smell of electrical burning started to happen. Yes, I used the included 100watt cable and Sandisk power plug. BH quickly sent me a RMA. I now waiting for the Pro-Blade transport to see if our drives (12TB) are damaged....this has been a Sandisk nightmare-our first Sandisk product...Thank you BH for quickly taking our return... We hope our next Pro Blade Station will work...
I carry ProBlades between several remote departments & WFH as these are slim, light and feel quite indestructible. The surface accepts tape labels unlike a rubberized cover. Sigma fp utilizes external raw storage as this and coincidentally the ProBlade was a consideration for me earlier today... But nah ~ Dark Power Lab provides nifty NVMe side or under mounts to a sensible cage for this and those are proving remarkably effective in my experience.
The PRO-BLADE Transport is HUGE compared to the Samsung T5 that has become an industry standard for BMPCC4K users. I wish they had more form factors for the Transport. I can see for example a thin long one with a slit to get screws through so it could be mounted on a cage, with a locking cable. What I'm wondering is if they can put a power passthrough on the Transport, so you could charge the camera while writing on the external drive - but I don't know if the BMPCC4K can support this anyway.
Of course SanDisk does not offer cheap empty NVME caddys to use with existing NVMEs. Proprietary systems like that are just a big money grab operation so Id rather go with something like OWC who let me configure things in a much more open and less proprietary kind of way. As far as B&H goes, even if it looks like a review video it's nothing but a SanDisk ad.
The video is repeatedly comparing the price of cheap SSDs with other things then ignoring the fact that PRO-BLADE mags cost about double the price of normal SSDs. A 4TB PRO-BLADE mag is more than a 4TB high-end gaming SSD. The graph shown at 4:06 (from 2021) speculated that SSDs would cost $40/TB in 2023. That's definitely not true. Regardless, the 4TB PRO-BLADE mag is $100/TB. The 1TB and 2TB versions are more than $100/TB. The transport is basically a modular SanDisk Extreme Pro SSD. They are both 2000MB/s. A 4TB SanDisk Extreme Pro USB-C SSD is $331. The 4TB PRO-BLADE Transport is $450. In that context I think it's pretty interesting since you're only paying 36% extra for modularity. But it's proprietary. It's hard to think of a situation where I'd rather have multiple PRO-BLADE mags instead of just getting multiple SSDs that I can plug into anything. In the video the SSD is mounted using a spring-loaded battery holder which doesn't hold the SSD very securely. I would argue that using a regular SanDisk Extreme Pro USB-C SSD would be safer because the Extreme Pro is smaller, lighter, more rugged, and has a grippy exterior. The only benefit I see with the PRO-BLADE mags is that you might be able to swap drives a few seconds faster. You can't record more than the capacity of the SSD. The transport doesn't hold multiple mags and let you hot-swap while recording. You still need to stop recording after you fill up 4TB. The fact that the transport is too big for normal SSD holders yet doesn't fit multiple mags is a really confusing design choice. Is this trying to compete with external recorders? A Ninja V is $400, and a 4TB SanDisk 2.5" SSD is $240. This system is $450 for the station plus $450 for a transport with a 4TB mag. And you don't get a Ninja V monitor. Is this trying to compete with thunderbolt RAID enclosures like the ThunderBay Mini? It doesn't do RAID. I would absolutely love a thunderbolt RAID enclosure that used hot-swappable NVMe drives. I hope the PRO-BLADE format catches on, because I haven't seen anybody else even try. But it's not clear if SanDisk would let other manufacturers make compatible drives. And if not, the the price will never be competitive and the 'ecosystem' will never catch on.
Is it possible to merge the pro blade drives? Like if I would have 2 4tb blades and I want to use them as one 8tb? Thanks for the video and the update 🙏🏻
In my case, I'm building my home studio and I'm thinking of using this to keep it always connected to my pc and in those memories save sound libraries that I can use with Ableton, video resources for when I work with video, and backup to leave the space on my laptop only to the programs I use Does that makes sense?
Just ran out of hard drive space for my editing projects, so I'm looking to upgrade to a system like this... unfortunately, seems to be sold out everywhere including B&H.
Is there a list of compatible cameras that will support this system? Could one assume any newer digital mirrorless camera with a USB-C data output will support this system (i.e. if the digital camera supports a webcam mode)?
This product does not offer any RAID configurations or functions. Consider the SanDisk Professional 36TB G-RAID Mirror & 2TB PRO-BLADE SSD Mag Kit (B&H # SAPHH2H036T2): bhpho.to/46ZqvuS >Mark
I don't understand the advantage versus a ssd drive.. it's bigger, not ergonomique, you are stock with sandisk system Why they didn't make an handle grip with the media inside
Can you hook up a USBc cfast/sd card reader and backup/dump footage on the mags in the field without a pc hooked up? That's what I want and need. Otherwise this a bulky external ssd.
You wouldn't be able to connect the SSDs to the Nikon D850, but you can definitely use the PRO-BLADE system to backup photos and videos that we'e taken from the Nikon through your computer.
I buy nothing but nvme drives and buy a housing caddy and for $110-120 i now have the fastest portable drives that are so much faster than a SSD drive. I got tired of paying the price for a portable SSD drive when you can go and do this with 2 to 3 times faster NVME drives. Buying a portable SSD is in the past for me.
you wouldn't be able to connect the SSD to the actual camera, unless it's a video camera that is compatible with external recording to a SSD, but you can defitanly use it to just backup/store your images through your computer.
Finally a 20 Gbps device. Now that's Thunderbolt 4 is a thing. I mean, it's a bit silly. USB 20 Gbps was introduced in 2017. Thunderbolt 4 in 2020. Also, there were probably sporadicly more, don't quote me, but far and few. Logicly. I mean, people we're happy with about 1 GB/s, but indeed for video you rather have 2 Gb/s. Newer models will probably have faster NVME's... Future's looking bright.
I asked B&H if this was windows compatible months ago, and they said no it was locked into mac and thunderbolt - So that's changed? I've currently have 2 of the 4TB problade mags and standard transports that I'm using for just about everything on my Ryzen system.
For *most* PC users, Thunderbolt remains incompatible, but the device will work with Windows over standard USB 3.2 Gen 2. If you want Thunderbolt support on Windows, you need a PC that explicitly supports Thunderbolt. Some prebuilts have it, but if you're building your own, you need to make sure your motherboard supports it, OR supports a Thunderbolt add-in card.
I’ve got the 3.2 gen 2 port, but no thunderbolt and have been following this product for months - this video is the first time I’ve seen it used with windows at all, and B&H themselves, back in October told me I had to have a TB connection… Glad to see that’s not the case! Still, goes to show how little accurate info there is out there ;)
NVME drives are so small I wouldn't mind them being the native storage media we insert directly into the camera. No need for all of this equipment or expensive CF express cards.
Wait a minute….if you get 1TB cards, it needs the 1TB Transport unit … so if you buy a 2TB card, you also have to purchase a 2TB transport unit ? … they don’t mix/match .. ??
Yeah this is pretty niche. I'd avoid this at all costs. If you can afford this system, you should probably just upgrade your camera to something that records your spec internally. No need to put your production into the hands of a single USBC cable. They even imply here that it's not smart to be plugging and unplugging USBC from your camera all the time.
Very pricey and proprietary Although I'm sure the idea of preserving the USB port/cable by slotting in this drive seems nice it comes at a cost Plus it's larger than existing solutions Now if Samsung made a dock that you could just slot in the existing T5/T7 drives that would sell like hot cake
it's all pricey and proprietary. The real big idea would be to have cameras start to accept NVME as the native storage instead of CF express. They are small enough to do it. Just pop them in and record directly to them. No need for all of this equipment or extra steps.
I cringed as soon as I saw the cable and usb-port on the small storage thing. That plug sticking that far out is just asking for things to break out in the field! It hasn't been thought through, imo.
...so you're telling me that I can offer a mild convivence over what is already standard, and convert $100 of hardware into a $700 "ecosystem" 🤔...and the camera industry will just eat the cost because they're used to this? 😄 Nice!
@@Supercon57 please let me know the product as I've been looking for one to backup/duplicate my SD card as soon as I'm done with the project. Something self powered and small/portable.
@@justcarryonnow Canon, Epson, and others used to make storage devices like this. They were interesting. But wrong timing and pricing in the early 2000s. The rapid increase in file sizes and cheaper cards made them outdated fast. A handful of products exist now, yet the same problem of cost.
Meh. Not a game changer. Same old workflow. I'd rather have the pro-blade station be 1 or 2 slot with a Huge RAIDed repository, and a direct transfer button for unattended storage backup. No computer. Plug the card in, and dump in the field. Bring it all back to the editor, and do what you want. Why can't that the pro-blade station be a Homer Bucket to throw your media in? Imagine being able to chuck that many full blades in a homer bucket. And while your at it. make that homer bucket have more than a blade slot. So it can be able to carry blueberries, grapes, and cherries. That's what I was hoping for. These companies always confine themselves to a small space. Why don't ever think bigger? So- Meh..
I fail to see anything useful with this. These kinds of boxes are useful if they are used for raid arrays, but otherwise it’s just a glorified usb-c cable. What does it do exactly? Transfer files from SSDs? Keeping SSDs cool? With industrial design? These are all non-issues. 4tb Sandisk SSDs can be had for arpund 350$ nowadays (twice as cheap), require you to have only a cable instead of a whole mobile housing (which itself costs like a 4tb ssd and functions as a USB cable). SSDs have never melted or reduced performance for thermal reasons, at least for me. Don’t even get me started on the industrial design without the needed mounting options lol😂😂😂 this product line is bullcrap, please don’t fall for it. BTW the stated 2000 read/write speed will never be achieved and depends on stuff like bottlenecks from camera/computers, operating system, type of cable, type of SSD formatting etc. this does nothing that a regular Sandisk Pro SSD doesnt do for a fraction of the price while being more compact and just as reliable.
I like how they call it "pro" but there aren't mounts for their clearly defined audience...
They already have the design with mounts on them, but only release them on next generations product. Its the classic big brand move.
I wouldn't even surprise if brand like apple intentionally put annoying bugs on my ipad to make me update, the bugs gone, but performance dropped, just for me to buy a new one 🤣
1:07 NVMe isn't a form of Solid state storage it's a transfer protocol.
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as much as I love the speed and size of NVME, keep in mind solid state drives don't do well for archival backup that sits around. Without power these deteriorate quickly and your files will become corrupt, can be as quick as a few years. NVME is great for working drives but not so much for backup and archival. For those it's best to use old school mechanical hdd.
If this can't handle major backups of data like tv/movies storage , to me it sound like a expensive useless toy .
Definitely an ecosystem I'm getting close to fully adopting with my workflow
Very nice solution, indeed. However, the reader is ridiculously expensive at $449.
ordered the Pro Blade Station, an intense smell of electrical burning started to happen. Yes, I used the included 100watt cable and Sandisk power plug. BH quickly sent me a RMA. I now waiting for the Pro-Blade transport to see if our drives (12TB) are damaged....this has been a Sandisk nightmare-our first Sandisk product...Thank you BH for quickly taking our return... We hope our next Pro Blade Station will work...
I carry ProBlades between several remote departments & WFH as these are slim, light and feel quite indestructible. The surface accepts tape labels unlike a rubberized cover. Sigma fp utilizes external raw storage as this and coincidentally the ProBlade was a consideration for me earlier today... But nah ~ Dark Power Lab provides nifty NVMe side or under mounts to a sensible cage for this and those are proving remarkably effective in my experience.
The PRO-BLADE Transport is HUGE compared to the Samsung T5 that has become an industry standard for BMPCC4K users.
I wish they had more form factors for the Transport. I can see for example a thin long one with a slit to get screws through so it could be mounted on a cage, with a locking cable.
What I'm wondering is if they can put a power passthrough on the Transport, so you could charge the camera while writing on the external drive - but I don't know if the BMPCC4K can support this anyway.
Kondor blue has a handle for pro blade and it’s cheaper than a transport
I heard, “Videophiles are huge!” and I thought, well sure, I could lose a few…😂
Imagine this, but as a nas... common synology, this is the future! 10Gb transfers!!! 1ru 8 nvme drives yum!!!
I love this but as a PRO-DOCK owner, I just wish they make a PRO-BLADE enclosure for it.
Of course SanDisk does not offer cheap empty NVME caddys to use with existing NVMEs. Proprietary systems like that are just a big money grab operation so Id rather go with something like OWC who let me configure things in a much more open and less proprietary kind of way. As far as B&H goes, even if it looks like a review video it's nothing but a SanDisk ad.
The video is repeatedly comparing the price of cheap SSDs with other things then ignoring the fact that PRO-BLADE mags cost about double the price of normal SSDs. A 4TB PRO-BLADE mag is more than a 4TB high-end gaming SSD. The graph shown at 4:06 (from 2021) speculated that SSDs would cost $40/TB in 2023. That's definitely not true. Regardless, the 4TB PRO-BLADE mag is $100/TB. The 1TB and 2TB versions are more than $100/TB.
The transport is basically a modular SanDisk Extreme Pro SSD. They are both 2000MB/s. A 4TB SanDisk Extreme Pro USB-C SSD is $331. The 4TB PRO-BLADE Transport is $450. In that context I think it's pretty interesting since you're only paying 36% extra for modularity. But it's proprietary. It's hard to think of a situation where I'd rather have multiple PRO-BLADE mags instead of just getting multiple SSDs that I can plug into anything.
In the video the SSD is mounted using a spring-loaded battery holder which doesn't hold the SSD very securely. I would argue that using a regular SanDisk Extreme Pro USB-C SSD would be safer because the Extreme Pro is smaller, lighter, more rugged, and has a grippy exterior.
The only benefit I see with the PRO-BLADE mags is that you might be able to swap drives a few seconds faster. You can't record more than the capacity of the SSD. The transport doesn't hold multiple mags and let you hot-swap while recording. You still need to stop recording after you fill up 4TB.
The fact that the transport is too big for normal SSD holders yet doesn't fit multiple mags is a really confusing design choice.
Is this trying to compete with external recorders? A Ninja V is $400, and a 4TB SanDisk 2.5" SSD is $240. This system is $450 for the station plus $450 for a transport with a 4TB mag. And you don't get a Ninja V monitor.
Is this trying to compete with thunderbolt RAID enclosures like the ThunderBay Mini? It doesn't do RAID.
I would absolutely love a thunderbolt RAID enclosure that used hot-swappable NVMe drives. I hope the PRO-BLADE format catches on, because I haven't seen anybody else even try. But it's not clear if SanDisk would let other manufacturers make compatible drives. And if not, the the price will never be competitive and the 'ecosystem' will never catch on.
inside are wd 750 name drives
now we need cameras with the mag slot built in next to the SD/CF slot
They need to use the word PRO more in the product name. How else will anyone know that this project is only purchasable by professionals?
They are pcie 3.0s,
The pcie 4.0 are doing 5-7000 mb/ps
Is it possible to merge the pro blade drives? Like if I would have 2 4tb blades and I want to use them as one 8tb? Thanks for the video and the update 🙏🏻
Do you have any links to the camera mounting hardware you use to mount the transport to your camera?
Here is the link to the mount we used in the video: bhpho.to/3m6p1xK
In my case, I'm building my home studio and I'm thinking of using this to keep it always connected to my pc and in those memories save sound libraries that I can use with Ableton, video resources for when I work with video, and backup to leave the space on my laptop only to the programs I use
Does that makes sense?
Just ran out of hard drive space for my editing projects, so I'm looking to upgrade to a system like this... unfortunately, seems to be sold out everywhere including B&H.
Is there a list of compatible cameras that will support this system? Could one assume any newer digital mirrorless camera with a USB-C data output will support this system (i.e. if the digital camera supports a webcam mode)?
you can edit and from this and no slow down ?
I'm confused as to how my fx30 is going to write to that opposed to it's CF or SD card.
Hi
me a question about SanDisk Professional 0TB PRO-Blade Station
Do the multiple 4 TB drives allow me to create a RAID array to backup my work?
This product does not offer any RAID configurations or functions. Consider the SanDisk Professional 36TB G-RAID Mirror & 2TB PRO-BLADE SSD Mag Kit
(B&H # SAPHH2H036T2): bhpho.to/46ZqvuS >Mark
this looks insane, can I put my own nvme ssd in it? I have a 4tb nvme that I would love to be portable
you can pen the enclosures and put your drive in
I’ve been waiting for the pro-blade dock for a while now. Looking forward to getting my hands on one.
What about the Kondor Blue handle?
nice
Thanks for informing us.
I don't understand the advantage versus a ssd drive.. it's bigger, not ergonomique, you are stock with sandisk system
Why they didn't make an handle grip with the media inside
Can you hook up a USBc cfast/sd card reader and backup/dump footage on the mags in the field without a pc hooked up?
That's what I want and need. Otherwise this a bulky external ssd.
A PC host is required. >Mark
Thanks alot for sharing. But can I use it on my Nikon d850
You wouldn't be able to connect the SSDs to the Nikon D850, but you can definitely use the PRO-BLADE system to backup photos and videos that we'e taken from the Nikon through your computer.
Does anyone know if this will work with the Canon's C70?
I buy nothing but nvme drives and buy a housing caddy and for $110-120 i now have the fastest portable drives that are so much faster than a SSD drive. I got tired of paying the price for a portable SSD drive when you can go and do this with 2 to 3 times faster NVME drives. Buying a portable SSD is in the past for me.
Could you use this on cameras (A7c) that only have 1 SD card slot. Backup copy
you wouldn't be able to connect the SSD to the camera, but you can defitanly use it to just backup/store your images through your computer.
How this tech will work with Sony, Canon, Nikon systems?
you wouldn't be able to connect the SSD to the actual camera, unless it's a video camera that is compatible with external recording to a SSD, but you can defitanly use it to just backup/store your images through your computer.
Awesome :)
Finally a 20 Gbps device. Now that's Thunderbolt 4 is a thing.
I mean, it's a bit silly. USB 20 Gbps was introduced in 2017. Thunderbolt 4 in 2020. Also, there were probably sporadicly more, don't quote me, but far and few.
Logicly. I mean, people we're happy with about 1 GB/s, but indeed for video you rather have 2 Gb/s.
Newer models will probably have faster NVME's... Future's looking bright.
Will buy it only when they allow my existing NVME’s.. as on date it’s only Sandisk ecosystem!!.. instead i would prefer OWC products
I asked B&H if this was windows compatible months ago, and they said no it was locked into mac and thunderbolt - So that's changed? I've currently have 2 of the 4TB problade mags and standard transports that I'm using for just about everything on my Ryzen system.
For *most* PC users, Thunderbolt remains incompatible, but the device will work with Windows over standard USB 3.2 Gen 2. If you want Thunderbolt support on Windows, you need a PC that explicitly supports Thunderbolt. Some prebuilts have it, but if you're building your own, you need to make sure your motherboard supports it, OR supports a Thunderbolt add-in card.
I’ve got the 3.2 gen 2 port, but no thunderbolt and have been following this product for months - this video is the first time I’ve seen it used with windows at all, and B&H themselves, back in October told me I had to have a TB connection… Glad to see that’s not the case! Still, goes to show how little accurate info there is out there ;)
& in two years SanDisk will create some new ecosystem making this obsolete.
They couldn’t make that any bigger?
Is the dock compatible with the DJI inspire 2 SSD?
No
no, it is not.
If this would adapt to a cfast so i could get an atomx cfast adapter and pop it in my Atomos Ninja i would be sold. Thanks
No, the SanDisk Professional PRO-BLADE ecosystem can not adapt to cfast.
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None of your links work for me!
it doesn't work with many cameras my GH5 for example
That Hair!
NVME drives are so small I wouldn't mind them being the native storage media we insert directly into the camera. No need for all of this equipment or expensive CF express cards.
Why do I get the feeling this isn’t actually a product demo, but actually his audition reel for the next casting of Star Trek?
MUCH too bulky and expensive.
Why would I ever use this if I could just use small T5 SSD’s, or just an NVME drive in a regular enclosure.
Wait a minute….if you get 1TB cards, it needs the 1TB Transport unit … so if you buy a 2TB card, you also have to purchase a 2TB transport unit ? … they don’t mix/match .. ??
A combination of different storage capacities may be used with a SanDisk Professional PRO-BLADE STATION BH #SAPBST : bhpho.to/3LWvupr >Mark
Thank you .. I understand the station can use different types, it not the transport that you attach to your camera … ? That is my concern …
or just get some USBC enclosures, NVME drives and a USBC dock?
I don't see this being a problem. SD cards are a lot less expensive than this and much easier to travel with and carry.
Yeah this is pretty niche. I'd avoid this at all costs.
If you can afford this system, you should probably just upgrade your camera to something that records your spec internally. No need to put your production into the hands of a single USBC cable. They even imply here that it's not smart to be plugging and unplugging USBC from your camera all the time.
Very pricey and proprietary
Although I'm sure the idea of preserving the USB port/cable by slotting in this drive seems nice it comes at a cost
Plus it's larger than existing solutions
Now if Samsung made a dock that you could just slot in the existing T5/T7 drives that would sell like hot cake
it's all pricey and proprietary. The real big idea would be to have cameras start to accept NVME as the native storage instead of CF express. They are small enough to do it. Just pop them in and record directly to them. No need for all of this equipment or extra steps.
@@TJ-uk4ik my point is not everyone/everything needs nvme speeds
this percussion sound as background music is kind of distracting.. at first I thought that my speaker is broken
I cringed as soon as I saw the cable and usb-port on the small storage thing. That plug sticking that far out is just asking for things to break out in the field! It hasn't been thought through, imo.
...so you're telling me that I can offer a mild convivence over what is already standard, and convert $100 of hardware into a $700 "ecosystem" 🤔...and the camera industry will just eat the cost because they're used to this? 😄 Nice!
If only black magic would approve the 2TB and 4tb..
This seems a little overkill for the use case.
Or just buy one system that doesn't have PRO IN IT 😆😆😆
Nope. Not needed. Extra clunk piece have to deal with and usb cable risk of detaching or breaking.
What I really need is a small portable backup storage where I can pop in my card and it auto backups onto ssd without cables.
Hasn't that been a thing for awhile?
I recall they had that for photographers years ago and then someone else made one
Look up "Gnarbox"
@@Supercon57 please let me know the product as I've been looking for one to backup/duplicate my SD card as soon as I'm done with the project. Something self powered and small/portable.
@@justcarryonnow Canon, Epson, and others used to make storage devices like this. They were interesting. But wrong timing and pricing in the early 2000s. The rapid increase in file sizes and cheaper cards made them outdated fast. A handful of products exist now, yet the same problem of cost.
Meh. Not a game changer. Same old workflow. I'd rather have the pro-blade station be 1 or 2 slot with a Huge RAIDed repository, and a direct transfer button for unattended storage backup. No computer. Plug the card in, and dump in the field. Bring it all back to the editor, and do what you want. Why can't that the pro-blade station be a Homer Bucket to throw your media in? Imagine being able to chuck that many full blades in a homer bucket. And while your at it. make that homer bucket have more than a blade slot. So it can be able to carry blueberries, grapes, and cherries. That's what I was hoping for. These companies always confine themselves to a small space. Why don't ever think bigger? So- Meh..
or you know just buy a couple of samsung T7's and save yourself an absurd amount of money.
This is a rich person problem.
You seriously had to explain what NVME is? Who do you think watches videos like this?
bruh... youre _always_ 'closed'🙄
$450? no. not even with ethernet
I fail to see anything useful with this. These kinds of boxes are useful if they are used for raid arrays, but otherwise it’s just a glorified usb-c cable. What does it do exactly? Transfer files from SSDs? Keeping SSDs cool? With industrial design? These are all non-issues. 4tb Sandisk SSDs can be had for arpund 350$ nowadays (twice as cheap), require you to have only a cable instead of a whole mobile housing (which itself costs like a 4tb ssd and functions as a USB cable). SSDs have never melted or reduced performance for thermal reasons, at least for me. Don’t even get me started on the industrial design without the needed mounting options lol😂😂😂 this product line is bullcrap, please don’t fall for it. BTW the stated 2000 read/write speed will never be achieved and depends on stuff like bottlenecks from camera/computers, operating system, type of cable, type of SSD formatting etc. this does nothing that a regular Sandisk Pro SSD doesnt do for a fraction of the price while being more compact and just as reliable.