This is the sort of out of the box thinking that pushes innovation in everything. Even if it isn't true, it's definitely heading in the right direction.
I am intrigued by this talk. I'll admit that at the beginning I thought "Oh god, he's one of those people who doesn't believe that depression is actually a real thing.." or something along those lines, but I kept watching out of curiosity. As someone living with depression, I am always open to any and all possibilities for treatment and advances in research. I actually quite respect the way he presented his argument. He's not saying that the brain doesn't cause depression, he's just saying that it's not the ONLY thing that causes it. Our brains are the means by which we experience everything in this life, so obviously our mental state is going to be a combination of environment and biology.
+IrishEyes1989 A very relevant comment when you said "He's not saying that the brain doesn't cause depression, he's just saying that it's not the ONLY thing that causes it. Our brains are the means by which we experience everything in this life, so obviously our mental state is going to be a combination of environment and biology." This more or less summarises what the TED Talk is about Irish, thanks so much for that. Caroline Goldsmith
What I like here is the temperature part AND the fact that he says that depression might be happening not due to a brain disorder but because the body is not fully healthy (malnutrition, heavily overworked). :)
I CONFIRM the heating of the skinn to be true, because I'm I've traveled and lived in all different climates and environments for long periods, and the hot sunny places did always make me feel content stronger that anywhere else, no matter what hell I was dealing with. AND ALSO CITY environments(pollution smog etc) bring me down in just a few ...some 2 weeks.
I've always felt or known that Medicating Emotional issues is in Most cases Truely just not Giving a Damn about those people. So it is really great to see and hear this video.
I know from personal experience that antidepressants have never really worked for me 😕 I've been trying to get PTSD therapy for years now, but I STILL haven't been able to get it 😪
This is an intriguing perspective. Go to a hot climate and the depression reduces. The day after my dad went into a home I flew to the tropics. The struggle of caring for my dad was too much, I had to let my mind clear. I understand why I felt better within a few days.
I don't think it's the heat though. It's the sunlight. The light is more intense the closer you are to the equator (warm climates). Standing in front of a heater isn't the same thing obviously.
Heat ruins me. It never helps me. I overheat easily and experience major negative changes, even while I am much more fit than most people. I think this could have be delivered much better. This presentation was all over the place, and all of my questions on this subject are left unanswered.
Dr Charles Raison, i hope The HPA axis ( Body Temps...) & Seratonin outside the brain (inc. the intestines) are on your radar too for starters as an option ntegrative approach. Best to You & Your research.
This is basically why people in warmer climates are generally more chilled in life, even if they have harder life circumstances than in colder countries. Vitamin D is a freakin wonder.
Interesting. However, he stated that people with depression have higher than normal body temperatures. I've been chronically depressed since childhood and have always had way lower than normal body temperature.
When presenting the relationship between environmental factors (smog, secondhand smoke, etc.) and depression, Dr. Raison comes across as the sort of person who can't differentiate between correlation and causation. Just sort of glosses over without so much as an "anyway, moving on..." It's also hard to take him seriously when he concludes by reducing those suffering from depression - whom he supposedly works so hard to help - to people with "lousy marriages or frustrating jobs".
Mandy Scardinopoop I'm sorry to hear that. I hope I didn't come off as saying that relationships can't contribute to the development of depression - that's absurd, of course they can and many do. But Raison was reducing ALL cases of depression to just those two, which, in my opinion, is a gross oversimplification of a very complex problem and only furthers the stigma around it. I hope you manage to find a solution, though, Mandy. Best of luck.
Tanya Sandler He haven't done that. He said this ironic, pointing out that ist is not usefull treating depression by just saying: "Take that pill and everything (including your lousy marriage or frustrating job) will gona be fine". Which unfortunally is a thing many doctors do today. He begs them to consider that for people who suffer from depression it is a lot more helpfull to help them getting rid of the cuases of derpession than just droping a pill on it and say this will help you to get well.
Noomi Wilmans Sarcastic or not, that comment is insulting to people suffering from depression. No doctor (however "pill-happy" you believe they are) would ever be promising to fix your job or marriage related issues - nor would they imply that resolving those issues will eliminate your depression. Depression is much, much more complex and often medication IS the only solution.
Tanya Sandler Tanya, you need to take a more objective view of yourself and others. Looking at the language you are using it appears that you are externalizing your subjective perspectives. Ex. "Dr. Raison comes across as the sort of person who can't differentiate...." No, he came across that way to you. You experienced him in this way,and perhaps others did not. "that comment is insulting to people suffering from depression." No, you find that comment insulting. Again, others may not. You are the "qualifier" and you continue to remove yourself from the sentence, externalizing the perceptive and attempting to make it the universal, a fact, when it is not.
+Jigar Kansara That is a very valid point Mr Kansara. As a professional in the field of mental health for the past 15 years I would say that psychological intervention is far more effective and with no side effects. Dr Caroline Goldsmith
+Jigar Kansara Holla! Have you heard about Depzap Total Depression Domination (google it)? Ive heard some unbelievable things about it and my mate managed to eliminate depression quite quickly.
The temp theory is interesting as people with prader-willi syndrome are typical of this. They cannot regulate their body temperature and often cannot sweat. Thus they overheat very quickly and go red, taking hours to cool down. They are happy when like this and when cold they scream, headbanging and Bute themselves. All are on anti depressants.
Great talk! (However, at 10:54, yes, you do taste things you smell, in that smell is a big part of taste and you cannot taste without a sense of smell.)
Eminent professor of Neurosceince Dr. Charles Raison shows how his book"Coming to our Senses: Rethinkng How We Understand and Treat Depression" affects this illness and offers new insight into research that makes more sense for laymen and professional alike. Caroline Goldsmith
We build, we do, we are until we're not... In the absence of desire, life becomes very simple. Of course, without desire, social exchanges and the rituals of bodily maintenance become repellant. How many people walked themselves through suicide tonight? Of those, how many asked or begged for help, only to be handed a prescription for an SSRI with a smile and holy handshake from the pharmaceutical industry?
Depression deals with anhedonia and motivation, the lack of pleasure in doing things that in the past gave pleasure, so depression is related to DOPAMINE, and some serotonin receptors, so, we need to target specific receptors, we need to develop new drugs that target subtipes of receptors, not as we do today, flooding the whole brain with serotonin. Antidepressants on me, for example, gives anxiety and panic, doesn´t work. Dopamin block reuptaking substances, on the other hand, gives me enormous motivation and heals any anhedonia.
Finally someone making some sense about depression. Most dr just believe what they are told. My dr at least will not trust his instinct. He is like a child. If he can’t give antidepressants then you’re sol.
So according to Dr. Charles Raisons video and study all nations that relocated from northern countries to hot places should be all diagnose as depressive people|?
Hmmm...I really wish the AMA paid attention to ideas like this and MDs (who are most people's only affordable option for help with treatment for depression, other diseases, etc.) were seriously educated to treat people in ways that outnumber drugs.
I'm always feeling cold--not hot--- and cannot sweat even in 90 degree weather--- and I'm depressed.... So I don't know about his theory about depressed people feeling too warm body temp-wise -- I'm the opposite
If the cause of depression is from external sources and "low skin temperature", the way to happiness is to increase the heat at home? I was waiting, and waiting, and waiting for Dr. Raison to start talking about acupuncture with moxibustion or about research being done at the Shanghai University of Traditional Medicine. (CTM). Oh well, another myopic Western doctor.
***** I would say everyone still sees me as a child and me myself started to believe it.Normal means, that once i had desires and thoughts that were mine, i thought for myself, now im thinking about them all the time. my family has always been dysfunctional. Not that bad but dysfunctional. But there are reasons for it.
To those of you who have unanswered comments and questions about depression from the video, please let me know since I personally also experienced depression and have been through some aspects of it. However, for the video, I agreed that the video didn't touch much on certain aspects of depression since the topic is very diverse and would take the talk alot longer if he tries to cover everything that you guys commented here. Please let me now if there's any way I help.
I'm wondering about SADs when people get depressed in the winter - when it's colder. I live in a part of Australia where summer is too hot and winter is too cold, but I don't seem to be immune to either temperature as far as depression is concerned, though probably winter is worse. When it's very hot here, it's almost impossible to get anything done, which is frustrating.
Dear TED, I always love your talks. Whether I disagree with what you're saying, or I couldn't agree more. You always keep me thinking about stuff... But can you please fix the god damn audio. Thanks Sincerely, Me.
you have a good point. check learning breakthrough program. it's probably the only brain fitness exercise in the world that can change the brain for the better. it uses vestibular stimulation. vestibular system is sense of balance. check deeply about this stuff. it's really exciting. do the learning breakthrough program for 2 years, 2 times each day. it will change your life just like it changed mine.
⚠️ The cure for depression: The 40 days recipe - "Stay for 40 days waking up early in the morning and watch both sunrise and sunset. Work all day long on a clear environment, where you can see and feel the sunlight. It's important to watch the sunset for 40 days too. This will adjust your biological clock to the correct time, body temperature and proper habits. This is one of the major causes of depression. You should wake up at the same time during the 40 days period, as well as keeping the time to sleep. Sleep well, work hard all day long, so you'll feel tired when going to bed. You will see you'll sleep like an angel. Remember : Work hard all day long. Don't be lazy." - People who sent me this guide for healing depression, assures that it really works. It has worked for me, so I keep getting up early and watching the sunrise. Good luck. ❤🎉🎉
i was diagnosed with severe depression 2 years back. it was really hard to survive , but now i m fine and living it all happily without any medication :) . the best treatment is meditation , nothing else you need to do. mail me at rishabh6793@gmail.com for any queries
Bad air quality has a bigger affect on our brains than you may think. Similarly but not just like, bad air filter not catching dirt, anything not air going in the engine, affecting engine performance
The world system is run by demons or fallen angels that torments people. Jesus told us to cast out demons in his name! Paul said we fight against demonic spirits, only Jesus can heal and save from sin. This man does not start off with the Word of God, not the truth but mans fallible sinful ideas. Jesus solves problems. Perseption, not conception..he studies effects, not the true cause, only the born again man understands. Study dr Greg Bahnsen. The world wants their own truth, not Gods Truth.
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This is the sort of out of the box thinking that pushes innovation in everything. Even if it isn't true, it's definitely heading in the right direction.
It's difficult to be aware and not be at least a little depressed.
I am intrigued by this talk. I'll admit that at the beginning I thought "Oh god, he's one of those people who doesn't believe that depression is actually a real thing.." or something along those lines, but I kept watching out of curiosity. As someone living with depression, I am always open to any and all possibilities for treatment and advances in research. I actually quite respect the way he presented his argument. He's not saying that the brain doesn't cause depression, he's just saying that it's not the ONLY thing that causes it. Our brains are the means by which we experience everything in this life, so obviously our mental state is going to be a combination of environment and biology.
You got it! That is the first step in the journey out of the forest of depression
+IrishEyes1989 A very relevant comment when you said "He's not saying that the brain doesn't cause depression, he's just saying that it's not the ONLY thing that causes it. Our brains are the means by which we experience everything in this life, so obviously our mental state is going to be a combination of environment and biology." This more or less summarises what the TED Talk is about Irish, thanks so much for that. Caroline Goldsmith
I think all doctors knows it's a combination of the brain and environment.
What I like here is the temperature part AND the fact that he says that depression might be happening not due to a brain disorder but because the body is not fully healthy (malnutrition, heavily overworked). :)
I CONFIRM the heating of the skinn to be true, because I'm I've traveled and lived in all different climates and environments for long periods, and the hot sunny places did always make me feel content stronger that anywhere else, no matter what hell I was dealing with. AND ALSO CITY environments(pollution smog etc) bring me down in just a few ...some 2 weeks.
I've always felt or known that Medicating Emotional issues is in Most cases Truely just not Giving a Damn about those people. So it is really great to see and hear this video.
I know from personal experience that antidepressants have never really worked for me 😕 I've been trying to get PTSD therapy for years now, but I STILL haven't been able to get it 😪
This is an intriguing perspective.
Go to a hot climate and the depression reduces.
The day after my dad went into a home I flew to the tropics. The struggle of caring for my dad was too much, I had to let my mind clear. I understand why I felt better within a few days.
Bright light, and fresh oxygenated air had a role to play with your recovery.
I don't think it's the heat though. It's the sunlight. The light is more intense the closer you are to the equator (warm climates). Standing in front of a heater isn't the same thing obviously.
Amazing insights about depression. Thank you.
Who knew? Depression is because of society so all we have to do is change society. Simples!
Heat ruins me. It never helps me. I overheat easily and experience major negative changes, even while I am much more fit than most people. I think this could have be delivered much better. This presentation was all over the place, and all of my questions on this subject are left unanswered.
Dr Charles Raison, i hope The HPA axis ( Body Temps...) & Seratonin outside the brain (inc. the intestines) are on your radar too for starters as an option ntegrative approach. Best to You & Your research.
This is basically why people in warmer climates are generally more chilled in life, even if they have harder life circumstances than in colder countries. Vitamin D is a freakin wonder.
Interesting. However, he stated that people with depression have higher than normal body temperatures. I've been chronically depressed since childhood and have always had way lower than normal body temperature.
When presenting the relationship between environmental factors (smog, secondhand smoke, etc.) and depression, Dr. Raison comes across as the sort of person who can't differentiate between correlation and causation. Just sort of glosses over without so much as an "anyway, moving on..." It's also hard to take him seriously when he concludes by reducing those suffering from depression - whom he supposedly works so hard to help - to people with "lousy marriages or frustrating jobs".
I think lousy marriages where you are hindered and controlled and ridiculed causes a certain HOPELESSNESS that causes my depression.
Mandy Scardinopoop I'm sorry to hear that. I hope I didn't come off as saying that relationships can't contribute to the development of depression - that's absurd, of course they can and many do. But Raison was reducing ALL cases of depression to just those two, which, in my opinion, is a gross oversimplification of a very complex problem and only furthers the stigma around it. I hope you manage to find a solution, though, Mandy. Best of luck.
Tanya Sandler He haven't done that. He said this ironic, pointing out that ist is not usefull treating depression by just saying: "Take that pill and everything (including your lousy marriage or frustrating job) will gona be fine". Which unfortunally is a thing many doctors do today. He begs them to consider that for people who suffer from depression it is a lot more helpfull to help them getting rid of the cuases of derpession than just droping a pill on it and say this will help you to get well.
Noomi Wilmans Sarcastic or not, that comment is insulting to people suffering from depression. No doctor (however "pill-happy" you believe they are) would ever be promising to fix your job or marriage related issues - nor would they imply that resolving those issues will eliminate your depression. Depression is much, much more complex and often medication IS the only solution.
Tanya Sandler
Tanya, you need to take a more objective view of yourself and others. Looking at the language you are using it appears that you are externalizing your subjective perspectives.
Ex. "Dr. Raison comes across as the sort of person who can't differentiate...."
No, he came across that way to you. You experienced him in this way,and perhaps others did not.
"that comment is insulting to people suffering from depression."
No, you find that comment insulting. Again, others may not.
You are the "qualifier" and you continue to remove yourself from the sentence, externalizing the perceptive and attempting to make it the universal, a fact, when it is not.
I absolutely agree with him.
Pharmacological treatment doesn't show marked improvement.
Psychological treatment seems like a better approach.
+Jigar Kansara That is a very valid point Mr Kansara. As a professional in the field of mental health for the past 15 years I would say that psychological intervention is far more effective and with no side effects. Dr Caroline Goldsmith
+Jigar Kansara Holla! Have you heard about Depzap Total
Depression Domination (google it)? Ive heard some unbelievable things
about it and my mate managed to eliminate depression quite quickly.
Terri Bennett Hi Terri.. seems good information. . I wasn't aware about it before. . Thanks for sharing it (y)
Cheers
The temp theory is interesting as people with prader-willi syndrome are typical of this. They cannot regulate their body temperature and often cannot sweat. Thus they overheat very quickly and go red, taking hours to cool down. They are happy when like this and when cold they scream, headbanging and Bute themselves. All are on anti depressants.
Great talk! (However, at 10:54, yes, you do taste things you smell, in that smell is a big part of taste and you cannot taste without a sense of smell.)
Very insightful talk
i feel better when the temp is colder for sure...hmmm...weird
I feel better when it is warmer
I’m much happier in the cold too. Summer is the absolute worst for my mental and physical health.
YES!!!!! THANK YOU for saying that!!!!!
Eminent professor of Neurosceince Dr. Charles Raison shows how his book"Coming to our Senses: Rethinkng How We Understand and Treat Depression" affects this illness and offers new insight into research that makes more sense for laymen and professional alike. Caroline Goldsmith
This is interesting. Thank you.
We build, we do, we are until we're not... In the absence of desire, life becomes very simple. Of course, without desire, social exchanges and the rituals of bodily maintenance become repellant. How many people walked themselves through suicide tonight? Of those, how many asked or begged for help, only to be handed a prescription for an SSRI with a smile and holy handshake from the pharmaceutical industry?
If the body temperature-depression correlation is true then everyone with depression should be prescribed Finnish sauna treatment :)
I found the body temperature-depression correlation to be of particular fascination.
Interesting. I think this guy might be onto something.
My mental disorder of the depression is fibromyalgia, pain.
Depression deals with anhedonia and motivation, the lack of pleasure in doing things that in the past gave pleasure, so depression is related to DOPAMINE, and some serotonin receptors, so, we need to target specific receptors, we need to develop new drugs that target subtipes of receptors, not as we do today, flooding the whole brain with serotonin. Antidepressants on me, for example, gives anxiety and panic, doesn´t work. Dopamin block reuptaking substances, on the other hand, gives me enormous motivation and heals any anhedonia.
Great talk. Is there a research publication or any evidence to support this idea? Would be grateful if you could direct me to it
When the place is hot. I get a panic attack.
I'm a senior in poverty. Meds wont change that . Geeze
Finally someone making some sense about depression. Most dr just believe what they are told. My dr at least will not trust his instinct. He is like a child. If he can’t give antidepressants then you’re sol.
So according to Dr. Charles Raisons video and study all nations that relocated from northern countries to hot places should be all diagnose as depressive people|?
You may like to explore Mindfulness Therapy for treating anxiety and depression also.
Hmmm...I really wish the AMA paid attention to ideas like this and MDs (who are most people's only affordable option for help with treatment for depression, other diseases, etc.) were seriously educated to treat people in ways that outnumber drugs.
I'm always feeling cold--not hot--- and cannot sweat even in 90 degree weather--- and I'm depressed.... So I don't know about his theory about depressed people feeling too warm body temp-wise -- I'm the opposite
0:30 "Coming to Our Senses: Rethinking Depression and It's Treatment."
Drop the apostrophe.
JP has mentioned that his dad would get more depressed in the winter time
it's so amazing
great talk overall
creosotegirl and
If the cause of depression is from external sources and "low skin temperature",
the way to happiness is to increase the heat at home?
I was waiting, and waiting, and waiting for Dr. Raison to start talking about acupuncture with moxibustion or about research being done at the Shanghai University of Traditional Medicine. (CTM). Oh well, another myopic Western doctor.
I would like to hear more from this person
Acupuncture who?
Mai Yenish Some people do feel better when sitting in the sun. Perhaps now we can see why.
+En Gendro If sitting in the sun will help depression, maybe we can expect happier people with global warming!
Bet big Pharmaceutical company's dont like this
the arrows are pointing to the wrong spots
SO; HOW CAN WE BECOME NORMAL AGAIN EVEN IF OUR FAMILY IS DYSFUNCTIONAL AND DOESNT WANT TO CHANGE???????????
Swades4ever Building better coping strategies, perhaps.
***** I would say everyone still sees me as a child and me myself started to believe it.Normal means, that once i had desires and thoughts that were mine, i thought for myself, now im thinking about them all the time. my family has always been dysfunctional. Not that bad but dysfunctional. But there are reasons for it.
Awesome speech.
Yea, for, if, "X" too hot or cold = possible depression. Else, X = equalibrium.
To those of you who have unanswered comments and questions about depression from the video, please let me know since I personally also experienced depression and have been through some aspects of it. However, for the video, I agreed that the video didn't touch much on certain aspects of depression since the topic is very diverse and would take the talk alot longer if he tries to cover everything that you guys commented here. Please let me now if there's any way I help.
I'm wondering about SADs when people get depressed in the winter - when it's colder. I live in a part of Australia where summer is too hot and winter is too cold, but I don't seem to be immune to either temperature as far as depression is concerned, though probably winter is worse. When it's very hot here, it's almost impossible to get anything done, which is frustrating.
Lucia Tilyard Frustrating and as a result depressing.
This person is presenting only one scenario or face of depression. There's many things that makes depression.
Andy Lai
Isn't this address in his model of brain to ecosphere?
yes, but that is just the piece of the total information that could be given about depression.
Dear TED,
I always love your talks. Whether I disagree with what you're saying, or I couldn't agree more. You always keep me thinking about stuff... But can you please fix the god damn audio. Thanks
Sincerely,
Me.
This is NOT TED. It is TedX
TedX, in laymans terms, is "baby TED".
you have a good point. check learning breakthrough program. it's probably the only brain fitness exercise in the world that can change the brain for the better. it uses vestibular stimulation. vestibular system is sense of balance. check deeply about this stuff. it's really exciting. do the learning breakthrough program for 2 years, 2 times each day. it will change your life just like it changed mine.
Read The Inflamed Mind by Edward Bullmore
Long story short - modern life is making us depressed
⚠️ The cure for depression: The 40 days recipe - "Stay for 40 days waking up early in the morning and watch both sunrise and sunset. Work all day long on a clear environment, where you can see and feel the sunlight. It's important to watch the sunset for 40 days too. This will adjust your biological clock to the correct time, body temperature and proper habits. This is one of the major causes of depression. You should wake up at the same time during the 40 days period, as well as keeping the time to sleep. Sleep well, work hard all day long, so you'll feel tired when going to bed. You will see you'll sleep like an angel. Remember : Work hard all day long. Don't be lazy." - People who sent me this guide for healing depression, assures that it really works. It has worked for me, so I keep getting up early and watching the sunrise. Good luck. ❤🎉🎉
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doubt this man has ever suffered from depression.
And most brain surgeons have never suffered a brain tumour. What's your point?
If it's an actual disease, than why does it matter? Most surgeons have never had cancer but they remove tumours all the time. What's your point?
i was diagnosed with severe depression 2 years back. it was really hard to survive , but now i m fine and living it all happily without any medication :) . the best treatment is meditation , nothing else you need to do.
mail me at rishabh6793@gmail.com for any queries
Rishabh Gupta how can I learn how to meditate ? How did you do ?
Maybe I am just trapped in life.
Smog? Really? Smokeless fuels is the cure... I think he has gone to far right field.
Bad air quality has a bigger affect on our brains than you may think. Similarly but not just like, bad air filter not catching dirt, anything not air going in the engine, affecting engine performance
The world system is run by demons or fallen angels that torments people. Jesus told us to cast out demons in his name! Paul said we fight against demonic spirits, only Jesus can heal and save from sin. This man does not start off with the Word of God, not the truth but mans fallible sinful ideas. Jesus solves problems. Perseption, not conception..he studies effects, not the true cause, only the born again man understands. Study dr Greg Bahnsen. The world wants their own truth, not Gods Truth.