Drunkdeer A75 keyboard review (RAESHA Hall effect linear)
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Skip to 10:55 for a typing demonstration.
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Today we look at an "indie" contactless board, the Hall effect-based Drunkdeer A75; a very interesting new player on the market.
Intro by Kyle Carter
Outro by Facundo Cabanne
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I'm Thomas and I do videos and reviews on mechanical keyboards ranging from the most sickening modern RGB gaming keyboards to vintage hardware relics, or sometimes keycaps or keyswitches ranging from Cherry MX to Alps SKCM to IBM buckling springs and anything in between.
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The practice sentence was: "Hello my name is Thomas and I'm typing on a Drunkdeer A75 keyboard right now. Sure, it's basically the Euro Shopper of contactless keyboards. But I drank Euro Shopper for years!"
those switches sound absolutely fantastic, shame on the cringe marketing
Board is a bit pingy though. No idea why they decided on "drunk deer"
sounds like cheap plastic hitting another plastic
@@Metalwrath2 just like literally any other keyboard besides those filled with grease until they sound like turtles copulating
@@MyshKatze hahaha true
@@MyshKatze😂say what
The Imperial Units roast never gets old! Always cracks me up!
I love these reviews. This keyboard is impressive when compared to the price of the alternatives. I'm definitely going to save up for an adjustable hall effect board
Your initial unboxing inspired me to look into this keyboard, and I can echo most of what you said. The software does work for me, and being able to set per key actuation is VERY nice.
Hello from Tennessee!! If you do by chance see this, I just wanted to thank you for being one of the few keyboard reviewers that have never made me feel ashamed of the fact I can only afford a crap dumper cheap mechanical keyboard, u actually teach us without being a presumptuous firework donkey ball licking sponsor cow whompus face. But thanks man. I'm going through your older videos as we speak
Haha cheers mate! :)
It has a wonderful muted ping. I'm not a fan of linear switches, but I would love to try them out.
The best thing about this video is this man's voice.
A lot of the marketing around mechanical keyboards atm have been around feel since, until the wooting introduced hall effect switches, smoothness being the most common that I found. There's little to no mechanical difference between a cherry and there clones but the feel of blues and silent forest are night and day
I'm attracted to magnetic keyboards
gold star for 8:45
I think this may be the first time I’ve heard your channel name spoken
Virtually everybody mispronounces, and even misreads, it xD . Chryosran, Chyrosan, Chryosan, I've seen so many variations xD .
I'd be interested in a full size or any size with a numpad
My first name is Fawn, so learning about a keyboard brand called DrunkDeer definitely made me LAUGH!!! 🤣
I did say if Wooting made a 75% I'd probably get it. Maybe I'll just get this instead.
This keyboard got me pretty curious as it was a pretty affordable hall effect keyboard and I managed to get one at maybe two third of its original price. I'm not necessarily big on customising keyboards but watching your videos I've gotten increasingly sensitive to the typing experience and comparing smoothness between switches. To my surprise, when pressing individually random keys, I could easily distinguish degrees of smoothness depending on how much lubed (presumably, as I didn't take any switch apart) or not was on switches, and hilariously enough, I've found one switch in particular that had a noticeable scratchy feeling, almost reminiscent of a cherry mx red.
This is a very wild guess but despite being a contactless switch, I'd suspect the walled stem is what could be causing a bit of friction (or more if I take that one scratchy switch as a reference). That is something you don't have at all on the omnipoint switches, but those switches, along with other very smooth switches like the opx ones from corsair happen to be more prone to binding, and maybe this has to do with the housing having more empty room? Although the drunkdeer board I have is pretty much brand new, binding is much less significant, while on the other switches I mentioned, even new some can already have quite a bit of binding.
Anyway, great video as always, thanks for that (and for baiting me into frantically seeking the smoothest switches out there).
My one gripe with these 75% keyboards is that there never seems to be a dedicated PrtScrn button on them. PrtScrn and Delete are precious keys to me. 😅
Overall, it looks like a perfect entry to Contactless boards, yeah the marketing does sound dumb, but switches are just that itch the people need.
Side note: please tell fucking Corsair to release an update to revise the K100 Optoelectic version to be analogue capable. And error on the Razer, the screengrab said 270 Euros when you said it's 270 Dollars. If SteelSeries were to send you their ApexPro Mini with the Omnipoint V2 switches, would you review it? 🤔
Yes, I actually went as far as to bind PrtScrn to a key on my macropad because all these small keyboards lack this key and it's driving me nuts xD . I'm not sure they'll make the K100 analog though, this is a lot more difficult with optoelectric switches than it is with Hall effects. I'd definitely review the new Apex Pro though, yeah :D .
yeah, on windows is a bit cumbersome to use win + shift + s all the time lol
Somewhat off topic, but this issue is absolutely why I hate modern ThinkPad laptop keyboards.
They used to have the functionality of a full sized. Then Apple happened 😅
There is a print screen button on the Keychron k2's and the K2 pro's. Even Nuphy has print screen buttons. These GMMK versions with the volume wheel though, doesn't have it. I guess there should be a feature where the volume wheel can be pressed to simulate a makeshift printscreen button.
Some of these keyboards are programmable. I have delete instead of home on my 65%
I wonder if you could pull the board out of the cheap case and use it in a decent aluminum case like you could with the wooting keyboard 🤔
Wow, the spacebar doesn't sound obnoxiously rattly. It's a decent lube job.
What happens if you wave a neodymium magnet over a magnetic keyboard? Does it register lots of phantom keypresses?
Yes, and it doesn't need to be a particularly big one either. It can be done through the keycaps.
Wonder how the metal case they now offer for this would affect sound and feel.
I am probably going to hold out for the Wooting 75/80% whatever it is they make before I make a decision.
got this keyboard and i absolutely love it.
I absolutely love your voice.
Great keyboard! Really love mine!
The only thing that would stop me from buying this would be the lack of bluetooth and 2.4Ghz connectivity. I can easily forgo the RGB but wireless is a convenience that I really can't do without. Plus I have 3 systems on my desk and I need the wireless features to connect between them.
You might find a basic KVM device an easier and more reliable solution then. I come from wireless hater camp, and one of the reasons is that wireless is never reliable enough, especially when you have to share your devices between different OSes.
@@alexandergonchiy1298 Well that simply isn't true. Wireless 2.4Ghz low latency is a tad faster than wired. But the receiver needs to be very close. As for reliability, I have been on a Nuphy air 75 for 2 years now. It has been very reliable when connected wirelessly.
@thomas. You absolutely could/should have taken the commission kick back, I don't think anyone here would have minded at all.
Thanks, but it's just not really my style :) .
So you're telling me that witj your link you can have this keyboard for 94$? This makes it 2 to 3 times less expensive than the other magnetic keyboards you reviewed.
This makes me think what enables them to price the keyboard like this. Did they have to cut corners? Is having the magnet on the side bad? Or is it just that the other manufacturers are greedy and overprice stuff.
The manufacture of everything around the switches is very cheap. Without those, the A75 would be a 30 dollar Chinesium special.
I was all on on this board and genuinely had the payment window up in another tab as I was watching this. Then came the typing test and that sound... what a staggeringly cheap, plastic, awful sound. I do not want to be listening to that all day as I type.
I love hall effect switches, my Wooting is amazing to type on (just full size so way too big for my needs so sits in the box in the cupboard) in favour of a regular linear 65% board or my Ergodox.
hey Chyrosran22, can you make a "Top 5 linear analog" Video? I can't deside which analog to buy, there are too many!!!
Thank you for the quality review and the code ^-^. it will be usefull for the new G65 version it almost cover the shipping price
majestic ahh voice enjoyed this keyboard review🙏
wish we could see you review glarses reasonably sized keyboard 🙃
I think that when they say "non-mechanical" they just mean "it's not a Cherry MX clone" which wouldn't be surprising since that's what most people understand. It's sad, but most people think non-chiclet = mechanical = Cherry MX (and its clones).
That thing sounds spring pingy as hell unless it's the magnets causing pings
Very cool content, thanks!
So the same functions as the new razer huntsman but no keypad hard pass
Chyrosran22. 1 question: Why do you hate mx switches when you only have used 3-4 variants? And why do you think us custom keyboard enjoyers fill foam in keyboards? . We don't like using foam or lube anymore. Switches in the mx game (specifically tangerines, and now gateron cj's) come factory polished (clean, no lubricant) and are just as smooth as contactless switches(no im not even joking) and get scratchier with lubricant(for some reason). Ive also heard more boards (the metal bricks with weights) dont really need foam anymore. We call boards with foam "muted"/"dead" now. Also if we do use lube we only use a tiny amount to not really change the sound of the switch to be "dead" and use minimal foam just to cut out any wierd noises. Besides that, we dont need foam anymore. Its sad to see what you think of the custom keyboard scene. I mean sure, we used to put foam in our boards, but we took your advice and now barley use any. Here is what a more modern/recent board sounds like. Its still a bit muted but its much more livley than those dead sounding "thock" boards ruclips.net/video/Y32XpVQ7Gcs/видео.html
I have over 350 different models of keyboard. What makes you think I've only ever used 3-4 variants of MX? Or really that I hate MX, for that matter? As for the rest, cool to hear, but basically every high-end keyboard is still aimed at exactly what you say people don't want.
@@Chyrosran22 sorry if I was rude ;-; I was annoyed at something else ;/. Thank you for replying. Also. It matters on what type of foam. Sometimes foam actually can make a board more lively or muted depending on how thick it is. It also depends on the case/chassis materials. I do agree roomy cases = thock but also foam can make a board much less dead
@@Chyrosran22the science says the thinner the foam the more muted, and super thin foam just isn't really what high end kits use anymore. They have started thickening up the foam. This is the case with the qk60 vs qk65 (both budget aluminium bricks). The qk65 had a "foam" sound signature, which qwerty keys almost entirely removed on the qk60 variant which succeeded it, instead opting for a more "full" sound that doesn't sound as "muted", although a bit higher pitched. This is due to more modern budget-but-high end kits opting out for thicker foams, meaning foams usually don't change the sound profile all to much, and when they do it dosent over-mute the switches. And finally, the lube us keyboard users use is not for the "sound benefit" more of the smoother feel, and most switches are smooth enough now we don't even need lubrication(some come factory polished, so lube makes them scratchy). Just order like 1 or 2 cjs, see how good they are stock.
Can you comment on gaming benefits in comparison to the wooting lekker switches? Are they more or less the same?
I dunno if the switches feel the same but the keyboard itself doesn't have all the onboard processing that allows for features like rapid trigger (dynamic actuation point) like a wooting has. Still, it's a very compelling option if you want a keyboard that's going to probably last a lifetime.
It sounds good no? Despite the gripes I'm gonna have to give it to them for the sound at least
Nice vid mate
Hmmm I'd be interested if the software would run on my laptop.... Maybe a follow up is needed if it starts to work properly?
It seems to work for most people, the only issue is that Microsoft Defender flags it (hopefully just because it's brand new software, this happens a lot for software that is installed on very few machines because their ML algorithms don't recognize it).
yay a review
should i order this Now? or wait for another wooting clone?
Is it QMK/VIA compatible? If not, can you remap the CapsLock key to Fn key?
It is not VIA compatible, and I doubt that it is QMK compatible either. You can rebind CapsLock, but you cannot bind the Fn keycodes to any key other than the Fn keys. Though weirdly, you can rebind the Fn keys to any keycode you want :/
Does the name of the keyboard brand refer to leaving apples to ferment in the garden?
I doubt anyone thought it through that far tbh xD .
I bought one of these, in white. For me the software works, but Microsoft Defender did bitch about it. The software does its job reasonably well, as long as you plug the keyboard directly into the motherboard (no hubs). The interfaces is a bit weird, but most of what you could want is there. I wish the wheel was remappable, though for my use-case it doesn't matter.
IMO it feels very very cheap...too cheap. The keycaps look and feel nasty (you can actually see burn marks from the lazoring on the white ones). The case is clearly as cheap as they could make it while remaining structurally sound, and it doesn't weigh anything. It's held together with clips rather than screws, which loses points.
I bought it specifically for gaming; I recently switched to Box Jade for my main keyboard....excellent for typing, terrible for Hunt Showdown. A 75% was thus fine for me, and the drawbacks aren't really an issue.
I find the switches a bit heavy, holding down W starts to wear out my fingers after a while. I might swap out the springs at some point. They do feel very nice though. EDIT: I swapped the springs from gateron red into WAD and shift, then set the actuation distance for those pretty near the bottom. I found this to be a lot nicer, my middle finger no longer gets tired from exended sessions of running forward.
The two point actuation is interesting. I tried mapping lean in GRAW to the first actuation of the A and D keys, with the second actuation mapped to the usual strafe. This worked remarkably well. I think whether this feature is useful heavily depends on what game you are playing.
I agree about the backlight, it's excellent. I presume this is because of the light pipes. This causes a problem, because it means I'm going to have to find a good set of shine-through keycaps :p. I do wish that it remembered the setting you left it on...the keyboard resets to "backlight enabled" on every boot, though it does at least remember what setting I put it on.
When I bought mine they weren't offering shine-through PBT keycaps as an add-on, which they are now doing. At only $10 I would have bought a set if they had been available.
can you lock the windows key to be inactive like any decent modern keyboard?
yes
but this doesn't have rapid trigger like the wooting cuz thta is for me the main selling point
Apparently they have a beta firmware with this feature.
It is now supported, and I confirm that it works as expected.
whats the weight of the springs in these switches?
Yes...I agree that 'DrunkDeer' is a ridiculous brand name and that they should change it immediately... I suggest 'StonedStag' as a viable alternative.....
Wow I really hate how the secondary legends are done on those keycaps.
This is a more affordable version of the wooting keyboard in a 75% size.
7:56 channel name pronunciation
Why does nobody ever make a 98% hall effect?
Format is ultra productive, but the manufacturers would rather have us all debate over which micro/inefficient keyboard layout compensates the most for our package instead LOL
The Apex Pro and Wooting Two are fullsize :) . I want a Hall battleship though 8)
Hrm, interesting board, but I'd rather wait for a full-size version. Plus that shop of theirs immediately goes into "Please close me again I'm a scammer"-mode by opening a spin-to-win wheel and shit. 😑
Yeah that spin-to-win thing was fucking annoying as hell. I hate corporate bullcrap like that. Fuck off with your stupid ads, I'll buy your shit when and if I want to.
Discount appears to be 10%
modern pingmaster
What are the odds of you perhaps, kicking/poking/politely inquiring over at Deskthority if there's anyone that's able to fix the email verification issue? I've been trying to get an account authenticated for months now. I work with a guy that has a massive warehouse of vintage tech dating back to, well, at least the 70s. He's inspired me to amass some 60+ keyboards already! Sadly I just can't afford to buy everything that I want. Anyway, I'd love to get involved in the community, and I'd appreciate any help you might be able to provide.
Thanks either way,
brantcy.
what keyboard do you currently use
The next one I'm reviewing! (no spoilers, but it's a bad one xD) .
how is their no miss function?
I couldn't install the software so I couldn't try it out. Seemed rather nebulous though.
7:56
TIL your channel name is pronounced differently to how I've pronounced it. I've been saying it chy-row san
Not surprised, for some reason everybody misreads it xD .
Bought one when you got it. Pretty great. They should make a battlestation next, inshallah
i bought this one (white color) and it was advertised as "TKL keyboard with magnetic switch that allows rapid trigger" on Amazon. Does this make sense? I heard from Wooting blog that, to implement rapid trigger feature, a keyboard needs to be analog keyboard instead of TKL keyboard. Do I have to return Drunkdeer A75 if it is fake rapid trigger with TKL keyboard?
Bro tkl is just the form factor, “Ten keyless” it’s missing ten keys, has nothing to do with switches or anything else
Tkl is a form factor just like 60% 65% 75% 80% 100% and others
I see the wooting cable! Do you still type on the 60he?
Curious to see what you have to say about this one
wtf kind of name is drunkdeer XD
7:57 hyrr .. what?? you will always be chy-ro-san to me
Yuck! Tiny, tiny modifiers and a big-ass Caps Lock with no notch!
I loved how unenthusiastic the review was lol. Basically one big 'meh.' Switches do sound OK though
> $130
> Plastic case
> Trash tier keycaps
> Incredibly pingy case
Apart from switches and RGB, this thing is awful.
Next Time 75. Been rocking it for the last 5 months.
Google it. Thank me later.
No one use Next TIme 75 anymore. Its south facing version the GK75 is already out for almost a year now
@@minhquanvu2944 I actually use the end-key pretty often. Which is missing from the GK75. Also, the GK75 costs more.