"riding style" was a common theme in this video. They are all so good and yet so different having their own individual identities. For us mortals tho just pick the one you like the best and ride the hell out of it.
With Honda and Ducati coming with V4s soon and Kawasaki and BMW having been facelifting their bikes for years now the next couple of years are bright and we can see a bunch of all new bikes soon
Honda is not coming with a V4 anytime soon. They wrecked their entire VFR line up. A base model CBR with no ABS is more expensive than the entire Japanese Line Up. You're crazy if you think Honda is putting a V4 up anytime soon. Ducati is in the Process of potentially being sold off.... With HD the most potential buyer right now.
9:30 Bimmer is Old Reliable? I know they maxed out the K5 Concept, but wow the Japanese and Italians had such a head start in Superbikes 7yrs later im still in awe.
Finally a Honda at the top with BMW & the small Aprilia & finally the bad ass Suzuki...the best year ever to pick any of those magnificent machines depending on your budget.
For me the enjoyment factor is what determines value for money with motorcycles. Some people enjoy commuting or social riding on a Super Sport bike and never take it to the track but they still get the maximum value for their money. Choose one that fits your riding style (BMW for me) and go have fun!
2017 CBR1000RR was the top pick of most experts in this video. It is also by far the best looking litre bike of the moment(better still than fat panigale v4).
You can't go wrong with any of them. Except the EBR. For me - since I have an s1000r - the BMW with those light forged wheels is the most appealing. Good review. Another vid with a complete lap on each would be nice.
Nayr Nitsua i have an 11 aprc factory se from new aprilia in my country is the only bike dealership which gives 4 yrs guarantee engine ecu brakes gearbox. Mine at the moment has 23.000km so i got me.a used k12.1000.for daily😂. the only issue of the rsv4 bike is extremely hot frames(city ride) on highway and b roads she is a thunderstorm cool and so fun soooo they didnt really made factory and rf for city ... lol figures right? the other big issue is fried ecu but i got mine instead replaced with the original replaced with the aprilia full race ecu and the bike is two times faster and two times more reliable. V4 is a riding sound experience i believe any rider should have at least once in his life. For me rsv4 factory is the best and more engine reliable bike so far i ever had/have. is a connection like no.other...And i had many... really so many bikes...
From Motomummy, "So far multiple crashes from a few riders and all are stating the bike had issues. Guy martin even stated "it's box full of neutrals"." Which is what I've heard elsewhere, a lot of false neutrals. drivetribe.com/p/dggbbOF5T26tx7b2dretww?iid=X5te3i_1RYibMNJs_3pD1w
I’m loving my euro spec ZX10r, especially the usual pipe and flash have being done, but I’m looking for a second bike and I’m tossing between the R1m or the S1000rr
Someone needs to start doing these shootouts but based on the second hand market pricing on 5-8 year old models - Like whats the best bike to buy now 6-8K in todays market
driven the honda and aprilia, both make you feel more confident with amazing chassis although aprilia has better chassis, and brakes. the fueling on honda with throttle e wheel connection is sublime. sound and looks aprilia wins by a country mile. gearbox honda is more refined. people look for different things when riding so depending on what your preference is, is the bike you enjoy the most.
The EBR struggled on the track because it doesn't come stock with a slipper clutch. Not having a slipper clutch is a huge handicap. Mid corner and corner exit it's probably the best bike out there but into the corner under hard brakes the rear wheel will lock up making it very difficult to push to its limit.
BMW won't give you a $16,000 bike because contrary to what their website says, they do not make a $16,000 bike. Every one I have ever seen at a dealer has been $19,000.
Channing Kraemer Nice to see another forum member chiming in. It's a shame that they just glanced past the EBR. I don't have first hand experience on an EBR, but my Uly handles like nothing else. Let's hope Erik can prove us wrong and we'll get to see the AX and the sub $10k 2018 model on the streets someday.
Channing Kraemer EBR has always been one of my favorite bike. But competition has moved on. And now sadly people look forward to have the safety net of TC and ABS etc especially on the track . I have always been fond of the bikes like the old blade, old gixxers etc. Then I heard about EBR and found it very likable. But then these European bikes came and spoiled us with everything.
I'd like to see a comparison of those bikes uncorked. On paper their power output is much closer than whan those numbers are showing. You can see on their dyno graph how the top end of the japanese bikes taper off way before red line, which is much less pronounced on the euro spec bikes. Makes me wonder how BMW and Aprilia managed to pass US sound regulations and still keep the top end untouched.
THE HONDER JUST FEELS RIGHT!!! Im trying to tell you guys. You could wiggle your ass around knee down mid corner and the bike would just be like LOL WUT?! and be as stable as if you were Marquez or Pedrosa. The weight is so low in the chassis its like putting a hot knife through butter. Im sure a good mapping will bring out 8-10hp and atleast 5tq at the expense of linearity of the drive by throttle. Not to mention a high flow filter and catless exhaust.
Adam Taylor She's very smooth compared to when I had my 08 Blade. The power kicks in differently. My 08, when you WOT it's just instant power vs my 17. The 17 feels more like a Vtec lol. But by it being so smooth and the way it kicks in is thrilling!! As with any sport bike you're going to be a little beat up after a long ride. So far I've taken her on a 5 1/2hrs trip. My ass and knees were sore. But my butt sores easily and my job had my knees previously beat up. She's very nimble too!!!
Or save 10k and buy k5 gsxr 1000 with more usable power every where in the rpm .new bikes have no power bellow 6k like anything made before 2006 and I must say I'm glad I bought a k6 as it's low power at 2k is more fun and doesn't feel held back just raw power
yeah good luck finding spares once their inventory is sold out to buyers. Unlike the Japanese bike from say 2 decades ago that still have a large spare parts inventory from many parts of Asia, you would be hard pressed to find replacement parts for the EBR in say about 5 years from now.
I wish Honda would put more performance in the engine. It seems like Honda puts all of it's apple's in the mid range, then runs out of breath at top in.
these guys just don't appreciate what happens when you go home and straight pipe the ebr. ur not a 4 cyl sounding like a fly in someone's ear, your a lion roaring 2 feet from their face (straight pipe suz sv owner)
I have an Aprilia. no issues. I have 50,000 miles on her.. half of them on the track. haters gonna hate. not one real owner has a negative comment about the reliability.
Good content, really well made video. But that EBR on the test makes no sense. And I really don't understand why nobody brings the MV F4 to this tests.
This isn't fair coz there is no top end models like the RSV4 RF,Yamaha R1M and ofcourse the Suzuki GSXR1000R which got way way way more electtonics than std GSxR 1000 ...arguably one of the best track bike
Being a bit overweight combined with full leathers is not a good look. Just a observation;-) Love these bikes though. Pick the one you like and you’ll be fine. They are all amazing.
Love seeing some old guys out there. Makes me look forward to in the future.
I've always been a fan of the s1000rr and the rsv 4 but Man...that Honda tho! The Suzuki is a great deal too. 🤔 So many great bikes to choose from. 😬
You guys should review the R1M, RSV4 RF, Anniversario and H2 for the odd ball that would be awesome! Kudos for the film and audio editor too!
So the Brazzers guy is even a racer now!
"riding style" was a common theme in this video. They are all so good and yet so different having their own individual identities. For us mortals tho just pick the one you like the best and ride the hell out of it.
I love Suzuki bikes because Suzuki bikes is heart touching bikes
Balwant Singh Tech Review Suzuki
super.i. love.you.suzuki
#1!!!!!!
What does this mean ?
With Honda and Ducati coming with V4s soon and Kawasaki and BMW having been facelifting their bikes for years now the next couple of years are bright and we can see a bunch of all new bikes soon
IKR I hope honda brings the rc v4 from the gp moto bikes
what is that? I heard about it.
Daniel Maia The Ducati with its v twin convincingly beats these as it stands now.
Honda's been coming out with a V4 soon for at least 8 years now.
Honda is not coming with a V4 anytime soon. They wrecked their entire VFR line up. A base model CBR with no ABS is more expensive than the entire Japanese Line Up. You're crazy if you think Honda is putting a V4 up anytime soon.
Ducati is in the Process of potentially being sold off.... With HD the most potential buyer right now.
9:30 Bimmer is Old Reliable? I know they maxed out the K5 Concept, but wow the Japanese and Italians had such a head start in Superbikes 7yrs later im still in awe.
All these guys are awesome. Loved the video.
S1000RR is still my favorite compared to the rest!
1. yamaha r1
2. aprillia
3. kawasaki zx10r
Rip EBR :( you will be missed, the dream of an american made sportsbike will continue
Nick5220 - lol
😂😂
Finally a Honda at the top with BMW & the small Aprilia & finally the bad ass Suzuki...the best year ever to pick any of those magnificent machines depending on your budget.
Just awesome reviews! good job guy's!
Kudos to you for bringing the ebr.
Please do not forget them in the future!!!
BMW S1000rr & ZX10rr are the ones to own.
Love my Aprilia, best of both worlds. Had last gen cbr1000rr, great bike but the aprilia is a beast in comparison
Your best video!!!
For me the enjoyment factor is what determines value for money with motorcycles. Some people enjoy commuting or social riding on a Super Sport bike and never take it to the track but they still get the maximum value for their money. Choose one that fits your riding style (BMW for me) and go have fun!
ZX10R will be mine one day!!
Onedayilbeok that day has finally came for me bro just brought myself a 16 plate winter edition 💚
2017 CBR1000RR was the top pick of most experts in this video.
It is also by far the best looking litre bike of the moment(better still than fat panigale v4).
You can't go wrong with any of them. Except the EBR. For me - since I have an s1000r - the BMW with those light forged wheels is the most appealing. Good review. Another vid with a complete lap on each would be nice.
You can't go wrong with these motorcycles, it's all about personal preference.
I love GSXR Livery!!!!!!!!!!!
my 1st pick is BMW just because it have analog rpm meter.
arif rifz yep mee too. i Don't like TFT displays like its bike not a TV
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im glad my 2016 tuono came with the old tach, tft for everything else is fine but i want analog rpm
iTxip Ride safe out there : )
beautiful video that kawasaki is absolutely beautiful. if you guys ever need to delegate editing work hit me up.
Ashton Zee agreed im bias because i own a ninja.
CBR1000 FU*KING DOUBLE ARRRRR!!! YEAH!!
CycleCruza my man your honda cbr is ancient compared to this 2017 model, relax.
sammyboi 072 broooo you need to chill before telling someone else to relax
Kurt Phillips im just saying bro
buy it, buy it, buy it😂
hahaha
stoked for the new gsxr1000, fireblade, and zx10r!!!!
jdwm rode the gsxr and holy cow is it narrow and feels so light!
Its all about the GSXR1000R!
They're all great bikes,glad that I'm not the only one who understands it !
Good review. I still don't understand why anyone would want one of these for street riding instead of a super standard.
For sure GSX-R the best of them all.
GSX JUOSSSS TENAN man!!
Keeping my 08 Blade. Sans electronics but still a blast round the track and road.
Bobby Backmarker me to brother love my 08 blade
Bobby Backmarker Definitely getting me another 08. But for now I'm going to enjoy my 17.
3:57 the frontend of that new ducati though.....looks awesome
Wish you guys would do one with all the bikes flashed with a slipon system!
Wooohoo!! The honda wins baby!
R1 is 🔥 beast
Their all awesome bikes ,great review guys ,over here in Australia the Yamaha isn't restricted and has a faster top speed than the BMW
It's been a toss up for me between BMW, CBR, R1.....jeeeez!!!!! Track will be a treat at least 2 times a year!
Aprilia all day!
Until it breaks down and you have to wrench on it all night!
Ruano09 That's counter to everything I've read on the RSV4, and good luck getting parts in the US. Their network is quite sparse.
Nayr Nitsua i have an 11 aprc factory se from new aprilia in my country is the only bike dealership which gives 4 yrs guarantee engine ecu brakes gearbox. Mine at the moment has 23.000km so i got me.a used k12.1000.for daily😂. the only issue of the rsv4 bike is extremely hot frames(city ride) on highway and b roads she is a thunderstorm cool and so fun soooo they didnt really made factory and rf for city ... lol figures right?
the other big issue is fried ecu but i got mine instead replaced with the original replaced with the aprilia full race ecu and the bike is two times faster and two times more reliable. V4 is a riding sound experience i believe any rider should have at least once in his life. For me rsv4 factory is the
best and more engine reliable bike so far i ever had/have. is a connection like no.other...And i had many... really so many bikes...
Nayr Nitsua AF1 has all you need
sector 1000 I have major ECU issues with my 2013. Wh n you replaced your ECU it fixed the issues?
Guess the US haven't heard about all the problems of the Fireblade.
What problems?
What are the problems with the bike?
you mean the isle of man TT problems?
From Motomummy, "So far multiple crashes from a few riders and all are stating the bike had issues. Guy martin even stated "it's box full of neutrals"." Which is what I've heard elsewhere, a lot of false neutrals.
drivetribe.com/p/dggbbOF5T26tx7b2dretww?iid=X5te3i_1RYibMNJs_3pD1w
I'll be interested to see how people find the honda in the long term
Traction control? Where's the fun in tracking a liter bike if you never get thrown off in a violent high-side?
Todas são lindas mais a CBR e BMW são máquinas D+!!
I’m loving my euro spec ZX10r, especially the usual pipe and flash have being done, but I’m looking for a second bike and I’m tossing between the R1m or the S1000rr
Luv dat Fireblade!!!
Good Reviews 👍🏻
Earlier, you guys weighed the Fireblade at Portimao with a full tank and it was 425lbs. How come now it's 433 lbs? Which is it?
The CBR in second place nice! and BMW still number 1 not to many people vote for ZX-10R
Someone needs to start doing these shootouts but based on the second hand market pricing on 5-8 year old models - Like whats the best bike to buy now 6-8K in todays market
driven the honda and aprilia, both make you feel more confident with amazing chassis although aprilia has better chassis, and brakes. the fueling on honda with throttle e wheel connection is sublime. sound and looks aprilia wins by a country mile. gearbox honda is more refined. people look for different things when riding so depending on what your preference is, is the bike you enjoy the most.
The EBR struggled on the track because it doesn't come stock with a slipper clutch. Not having a slipper clutch is a huge handicap. Mid corner and corner exit it's probably the best bike out there but into the corner under hard brakes the rear wheel will lock up making it very difficult to push to its limit.
BMW won't give you a $16,000 bike because contrary to what their website says, they do not make a $16,000 bike. Every one I have ever seen at a dealer has been $19,000.
or you could walk to said dealer... and say you want a base one and pay up and wait
Mitch Young Most enthusiast cars are the same way. You can always order one in the configuration you want.
How about acceleration test with the heaviest guy + most powerful bike vs lightest guy + the least powerful bike :D
S1KRR 💪💪💪💪💪
Should put the rc8r in there to compare with the ebr 😌
auto blip vs quick shift, whos the best?
GSXR is the most bike you get for your bank..
Actually the EBR is the most bang for your buck.....
Without the electronics?? I don't think so.. If you consider just street riding then yeah, I don't mind. But on the track its needed now.
Channing Kraemer Nice to see another forum member chiming in. It's a shame that they just glanced past the EBR. I don't have first hand experience on an EBR, but my Uly handles like nothing else. Let's hope Erik can prove us wrong and we'll get to see the AX and the sub $10k 2018 model on the streets someday.
Got to love that you think you need electronics. go ride the ebr and you'll see you don't need that extra crap. That bike was built around the rider.
Channing Kraemer EBR has always been one of my favorite bike. But competition has moved on. And now sadly people look forward to have the safety net of TC and ABS etc especially on the track . I have always been fond of the bikes like the old blade, old gixxers etc. Then I heard about EBR and found it very likable. But then these European bikes came and spoiled us with everything.
15:30 throwing so serious shade at the ebr
Shout out to Thai Long!!! and he's rocking the Puma one piece leather suit!
YEAH I KNEW THE FIREBLADE WOULD WIN! honda FTW!
They enjoy the sun so much.
Can you give a specific brand name for a hypersport tire and sport road tire for a 06 honda cbr rr. 600 thx mario. Mon 12:00 am
How about - 1. BMW , 2. Aprilia , 3. R1
I'll still keep my R1😏
gsxr dark horse
So that means, they're all good. Just choose your color 😊
I love cbr 1000rr
The previous Honda and Suzuki were 16-17K, now 22k+, that's a huge jump in price.
what happened to the R1, at times felt as if it was not existing in the group.
I'd like to see a comparison of those bikes uncorked.
On paper their power output is much closer than whan those numbers are showing. You can see on their dyno graph how the top end of the japanese bikes taper off way before red line, which is much less pronounced on the euro spec bikes.
Makes me wonder how BMW and Aprilia managed to pass US sound regulations and still keep the top end untouched.
153 hp seems low for the Honda, the old bike makes 160 in other countries.
THE HONDER JUST FEELS RIGHT!!! Im trying to tell you guys. You could wiggle your ass around knee down mid corner and the bike would just be like LOL WUT?! and be as stable as if you were Marquez or Pedrosa. The weight is so low in the chassis its like putting a hot knife through butter.
Im sure a good mapping will bring out 8-10hp and atleast 5tq at the expense of linearity of the drive by throttle. Not to mention a high flow filter and catless exhaust.
P Body Loving my 17 CBR1000RR
My Man!!! *Denzel voice.
Kendrick H What's it like on the street, in traffic and the motorway? Could you see yourself touring on it?
Adam Taylor She's very smooth compared to when I had my 08 Blade. The power kicks in differently. My 08, when you WOT it's just instant power vs my 17. The 17 feels more like a Vtec lol. But by it being so smooth and the way it kicks in is thrilling!! As with any sport bike you're going to be a little beat up after a long ride. So far I've taken her on a 5 1/2hrs trip. My ass and knees were sore. But my butt sores easily and my job had my knees previously beat up. She's very nimble too!!!
Adam Taylor You will kinda forget you're on a 1000 just cause she's smooth lol. Fun street bike especially for anyone new to liter bikes.
Or save 10k and buy k5 gsxr 1000 with more usable power every where in the rpm .new bikes have no power bellow 6k like anything made before 2006 and I must say I'm glad I bought a k6 as it's low power at 2k is more fun and doesn't feel held back just raw power
So, no EBR comparison?
EBR is out of business.
I know. But I still would like to see what they thought compared to the other bikes.
it's to analog most of these old farts need all the electronic assistance they can get. I don't care if EBR is out of business I'm in love with mine!
Brad Brad yup
yeah good luck finding spares once their inventory is sold out to buyers. Unlike the Japanese bike from say 2 decades ago that still have a large spare parts inventory from many parts of Asia, you would be hard pressed to find replacement parts for the EBR in say about 5 years from now.
A chassis wiz?
US spec ZX10 is shit, try a Euro spec with 191 rwhp than you will see
so is CBR, it again has retarded timing after cca 11k
meh. a full system and a tune and either spec will be around 200 rwhp
It's 2017 there is no bad bike anymore !!!
why S1000RR instead of Hp4? Hp4 is more light weight and more compatible.
No MV Agusta?
I wish Honda would put more performance in the engine. It seems like Honda puts all of it's apple's in the mid range, then runs out of breath at top in.
One thing you have to remember different tires work better for different bikes
did he say TEN grand for the EBR ?!? well, you have the winner !
dr. Apexx $14,000msrp, but easily found for sub 10k. Seen a lot for 6-8k
these guys just don't appreciate what happens when you go home and straight pipe the ebr. ur not a 4 cyl sounding like a fly in someone's ear, your a lion roaring 2 feet from their face (straight pipe suz sv owner)
+Andres Leiva
The problem is that EBR is dead, out of business, no longer available beyond the 2017 models.
sad but true... But it's still a fantastic bike.
So is the R1S
Why would u not include the R1M
I have an Aprilia. no issues. I have 50,000 miles on her.. half of them on the track. haters gonna hate. not one real owner has a negative comment about the reliability.
can you buy the new gixer for 14k in the US? here in Sweden it costs 20k. BMW is cheaper than both suzuki and honda. EBR -14 costs around 14k
Electro-light; symbolism at 15:48 for those that like this track
Freight train is #1
Why not use the ZX-10RR?
Kawasaki doesn't have one for testing, sorry.
+Kevin Duke Ahh I see. Thanks for clarifying.
notification squad 😎
gey dude....
Why not Ducati 1299 Panigale S and MV Agusta F4
Good content, really well made video. But that EBR on the test makes no sense. And I really don't understand why nobody brings the MV F4 to this tests.
Because MV doesn't have one yet in its USA fleet...
Vinicius Silva what doesn't make sense is that you think the ebr is inferior. turn off the rider aids and that ebr will prove the easiest to ride.
Why no laps time comparisons???
Cambell Reynolds probably because the honda times didn't back the advert?
That's a long story explained in the article linked at the end of the video.
I also went there initially after this to see the additional stats but because there were no laps times I closed it before reading it all.
4 first choice and 2 second chice for the Honda blade.
The Japanese bikes are in stock restricted US form right?
now if only i could afford a new gsxr1 or R1.. its great seeing them knowing ill never own one.
No MV F4?
Those bikes have around 200hp, how come only about 160-170 in this video? Couse for US market?
nuskox they're measuring wheel hp in the video rather than crank horsepower.
jtpro0244 Ah yes, i forgot about that. Thanks :)
nuskox no problem man
No Ducati?
why no ducati
This isn't fair coz there is no top end models like the RSV4 RF,Yamaha R1M and ofcourse the Suzuki GSXR1000R which got way way way more electtonics than std GSxR 1000 ...arguably one of the best track bike
Winner 1 aprilia 2 bmw 3 Suzuki ? En castellano pliss!!
living phone tough umcynd pitcher regulation within judgment description option
Being a bit overweight combined with full leathers is not a good look. Just a observation;-)
Love these bikes though.
Pick the one you like and you’ll be fine. They are all amazing.