I'm curious.... Was the Zock ever shown to bend it's knees? I guess what I'm asking is can this thing actually walk? Or is it more of a "hover tank" that just happens to be humanoid shaped
The legs are just for show, it’s a hover unit like you mentioned. It’s symmetrical front to back with a 360° mono-eye, and beam cannons on both sides (according to the wiki)
@@That0neDeadGuy Correct. GB02 does this. It actually does slightly bend the knees but by not much. Its animations on sortie lift off are notably unsettling to me.
The Zock might be able to make a step but it's primary purpose is to hover over the ground combat since this MS is intended to pop up from bodies of water, unleash fire and then either stand in victory or withdraw back into the water. also ALL of the amphibious Zeon and Feddie MS are built this way... they are not very effective as ground use MS unless piloted by some highly skilled veterans but they are highly effective underwater.
My first exposure to the OYW was through the Journey to Jaburo PS2 game, where the Zock is actually kinda intimidating. The game designers changed the Zock to be more of a Mobile Armour with four broad legs that provide a slow hovering effect with a notably larger main body that could swivel 360 degrees around. Coupled with its array of powerful beam weapons it has a sort of Dreadnaught/miniboss feel to it as it's obviously the biggest aquatic Zeon unit in the game. The original MSG Zock design doesn't look capable of really benefitting much from its symmetrical design, and from an animation standpoint I have difficulty discerning its intended size. Despite having a general affection for the original series design, I can see why they changed it.
Came here to add this comment. The game version was so much more terrifyingly badass and a proper boss suit. Was shocked when I saw the OG version for the first time. If they ever do a new animation where the Zock is in it, I hope they use the game version.
They used that design in Thunderbolt manga as well, where it was a mobile fortress (mobile suits were stored in the legs). Also if you play MS Saga: A New Dawn, while it retains the original design from the anime, it's still looks intimidating with how it towers over the protagonists.
These 1970s Mobile Suit designs are actually rather charming. Some people think they are goofy, but I think they are memorable. Much better than modern designs that are forgetable.
I loved the MS when playing Federation vs Zeon story mode, because it actually has beam weapon. It is one of the few Zeon MS that actually have beam weapon on early stage.
ALL of the amphibious Zeon and Feddie MS are built this way... they are not very effective as ground use MS unless piloted by some highly skilled veterans but they are highly effective underwater. This is hard to convey in the anime sometimes because the depiction seems like "the big enemy BEAST machine" or "monster of the week" which the Zock was indeed one but once again Tomino really flipped that rule in that episode. However in the Gihren's Greed/Ambition videogames which unfortunately stopped getting made since the PS2 era, the amphibious Zeon and Feddie MS immediately become more useful for areas with bodies of water and the Zock itself is extremely useful as a RANGED MS like the GunTank and GunCannon... so even though it has large claws, it is not advisable to be used for close combat where even a basic weak GM might sink a beam saber if the pilot even managed to do it... which is possible.
Reborns Gundam: Let me just do this transformation thing slowly while you watch me... Hah! My back is now the front! Zock: I have no back. Just two fronts and a quick-moving mono-eye.
Surprisingly in gbo2 the Zock is not bad as long you used it as a support battery behind allies. I am starting to believe Char’s Mad Angler squad were a test team for Zeon’s 2nd generation aquatic MS since they were loaded with Zgok,goggs, acguys, grabro, and the Zock itself. The 3rd generation of aquatic oyw zeon MS mostly didn’t get a chance to be deployed for the Jaburo assault due to the desperate Zeon’s rushing the attack.
@@memberofthewatchercouncil1738 probably 3rd due to the hygogg being part of the United maintenance plan which allow newer MS at the end of the war to used 80% of the same parts. The zaku marine being 1st Gen and gogg being part of the 2nd.
The way this things eye moves scares the shit out of me. Like it must have a much larger fov than a zaku, I can imagine seeing that thing underwater, its eye does that ultra fast scanning motion and stops on you.
This thing is underrated. Against characters without plot armor the Zock is absolutely dangerous. As far as I’m aware those red things he has fire 30 HOMELANDER LASERS WORTH OF DAMAGE.
Zeon's amphibious MS designs are a unique combination of silly and horrifying. Really wish some of the unused ones like the Juagg or the Agg made it into the show.
It may look goofy but its essentially a hovering warship. Look at all those mega particle cannons! I guess water cooled stuff can solve a lot of problems.
I still don't understand why zeon invested so much on aquatic mobile suit prototypes so much instead of standardizing their ground and space mobile suits as well as supporting units like dopp fighters and magella tanks, which were way more inferior than federation's standardized mass produced units.
Yes, aquatic mobile suits aren't the best way to spend budget, but they were the first Zeon MS with more or less useful beam weapons. Without them, the Gelgoog might have never been created.
@@ВасилийМорозов-л7х in a sense, I think that is correct. Zock's arsenal was very crucial towards the development of mega particle cannons which were used for zeon mobile armors later on. However, I think aquatic mobile suits have no reason to be that powerful and expensive especially in that era. Meanwhile, zeon's ground force was still suffering because most of them were still stuck in zaku J types and dom/gouf were still in limited production in the Jaburo Invasion.
I'm just curious... When I played the zock in gundam universe the front is the same at the back... Well my question is is this machine can rotate its eye to the back? I mean is zock can rotate?
I always hated this mobile suits in federation vs zeon. It's so slow and easy to dodge but takes so many hits. And in the show it literally just shows up and gets blown up lmao.
-Shows on screen for less than a minute
-Don’t even kill anyone
-Dies to one shot
-Never has been seen in the show again
What a legend
瞬殺されてますけど、あれだけのビーム砲撃をヒョイヒョイ避けてコクピットを撃ち抜くガンダムがおかしすぎるだけだった
流石は天パだわねww
Poor Zock
It's basically a mega particle cannon battery. They shouldn't have tried to use it to infiltrate.
It is, in fact, as fearsome as it looks
I can't tell if that's a compliment or not.
@@jacksonbowns1087 it is a statement, now jokes aside I do love the chunky melon boi design, any Zeon amphibious MS actually
@@UselessFox224 I adore my Zeonic amphibiboiz.
That MS, in game MS Gundam Federación VS Zeon, is such tanky boi
I'm curious.... Was the Zock ever shown to bend it's knees?
I guess what I'm asking is can this thing actually walk? Or is it more of a "hover tank" that just happens to be humanoid shaped
The legs are just for show, it’s a hover unit like you mentioned.
It’s symmetrical front to back with a 360° mono-eye, and beam cannons on both sides (according to the wiki)
@@That0neDeadGuy Correct. GB02 does this. It actually does slightly bend the knees but by not much.
Its animations on sortie lift off are notably unsettling to me.
the zock does in fact take one step! in the original series. the scene is not shown here but it happens, episode 28 at 9:12
The Zock might be able to make a step but it's primary purpose is to hover over the ground combat since this MS is intended to pop up from bodies of water, unleash fire and then either stand in victory or withdraw back into the water. also ALL of the amphibious Zeon and Feddie MS are built this way... they are not very effective as ground use MS unless piloted by some highly skilled veterans but they are highly effective underwater.
@@apollosungod2819 yeah, absolutely, just wanted to point out it is able to walk with its legs regardless
My first exposure to the OYW was through the Journey to Jaburo PS2 game, where the Zock is actually kinda intimidating. The game designers changed the Zock to be more of a Mobile Armour with four broad legs that provide a slow hovering effect with a notably larger main body that could swivel 360 degrees around. Coupled with its array of powerful beam weapons it has a sort of Dreadnaught/miniboss feel to it as it's obviously the biggest aquatic Zeon unit in the game.
The original MSG Zock design doesn't look capable of really benefitting much from its symmetrical design, and from an animation standpoint I have difficulty discerning its intended size. Despite having a general affection for the original series design, I can see why they changed it.
Came here to add this comment. The game version was so much more terrifyingly badass and a proper boss suit. Was shocked when I saw the OG version for the first time. If they ever do a new animation where the Zock is in it, I hope they use the game version.
@@SpartanML so the Version In thunderbolt?
They used that design in Thunderbolt manga as well, where it was a mobile fortress (mobile suits were stored in the legs). Also if you play MS Saga: A New Dawn, while it retains the original design from the anime, it's still looks intimidating with how it towers over the protagonists.
It looks so goofy. Like a sumo wrestler and a knight mixed *I love it
ゾック
型式：MSM-10
ジオン公国が開発した水陸両用MS
前後左右対称の機体構造をしており､モノアイレールも後方を視認できる様に一周する様になっている
機体前後にメガ粒子砲を四門ずつ備えており､頭頂部には対空用にビーム砲を備えている反面､格闘能力は他の水陸両用MSに比べると低く､砲戦での運用を主体とした機体と言える
当機は地球連邦軍総司令部[ジャブロー]の攻略戦に投入され､岩壁に偽装されたハッチを発見している
しかし､内部に侵入したが､ホワイトベース隊のガンダムとの戦闘で撃破された
重装甲に ビーム祭り そんな機体のコックピットをピンポイントで射撃って シャア が酷評してたけどアムロが化け物なだけやん。
サンダーボルトではモビルフォートレスとして登場していたが、オリジナルは呆気ない幕切れやったですね(笑)(¯―¯٥)
走り回ったり格闘戦しないから作画コストは良さそう
この中にはないけど、ゾックが指でカリカリしてジャブローの入り口見つけるシーンすこ
He's just standing there.... MENACINGLY!
These 1970s Mobile Suit designs are actually rather charming. Some people think they are goofy, but I think they are memorable. Much better than modern designs that are forgetable.
Concurred
Agreed
The Zakrello is the only design I don't like, but other than that, I love the 60s/70s retro future look of the later Zeon Mobile Suits.
I strongly disagree
well 😅
the single greatest MS design ever, what peak performance looks like.
I loved the MS when playing Federation vs Zeon story mode, because it actually has beam weapon. It is one of the few Zeon MS that actually have beam weapon on early stage.
I remember that I actually used it as a Zeon version of the Guntank.
I remember encountering the alternate version of this thing on Journey to Jaburo, what a PITA!
like it or not, this is what peak mobile suit performance looks like
The Zock A.k.a Duck so cute yet similar to KAPA legends from Japan lore
ALL of the amphibious Zeon and Feddie MS are built this way... they are not very effective as ground use MS unless piloted by some highly skilled veterans but they are highly effective underwater.
This is hard to convey in the anime sometimes because the depiction seems like "the big enemy BEAST machine" or "monster of the week" which the Zock was indeed one but once again Tomino really flipped that rule in that episode.
However in the Gihren's Greed/Ambition videogames which unfortunately stopped getting made since the PS2 era, the amphibious Zeon and Feddie MS immediately become more useful for areas with bodies of water and the Zock itself is extremely useful as a RANGED MS like the GunTank and GunCannon... so even though it has large claws, it is not advisable to be used for close combat where even a basic weak GM might sink a beam saber if the pilot even managed to do it... which is possible.
Reborns Gundam: Let me just do this transformation thing slowly while you watch me... Hah! My back is now the front!
Zock: I have no back. Just two fronts and a quick-moving mono-eye.
Surprisingly in gbo2 the Zock is not bad as long you used it as a support battery behind allies.
I am starting to believe Char’s Mad Angler squad were a test team for Zeon’s 2nd generation aquatic MS since they were loaded with Zgok,goggs, acguys, grabro, and the Zock itself.
The 3rd generation of aquatic oyw zeon MS mostly didn’t get a chance to be deployed for the Jaburo assault due to the desperate Zeon’s rushing the attack.
Is the hygogg classified as a third generation or a second generation?
@@memberofthewatchercouncil1738 probably 3rd due to the hygogg being part of the United maintenance plan which allow newer MS at the end of the war to used 80% of the same parts.
The zaku marine being 1st Gen and gogg being part of the 2nd.
they should make a RE/100 or a Full Mechanics kit of this thing.
The way this things eye moves scares the shit out of me. Like it must have a much larger fov than a zaku, I can imagine seeing that thing underwater, its eye does that ultra fast scanning motion and stops on you.
ゾック
ジオン軍が開発した試作水陸両用MS。
水陸両用ではあるものの、陸上では超が付くほど鈍重。ただし、水中では信じられないほどの速度で動く。
図体のデカさに比例して格闘戦は苦手。腕は飾りレベル。
だが、それを補って余りある大火力が最大の長所。誰が呼んだか局地専用移動放題。
また、モノアイレーンは背面にまであり、背後にもメガ粒子砲はあるため、前後左右死角はない。
劇中ではジャブロー攻略戦に参加。大した戦果こそあげなかったものの、強烈なインパクトを残した。
余談だが、本機は某ゲームではカルト的な人気を誇っており、御神体と呼ばれている。
みんなで御神体を崇めよ
たしかジャンプ力はザクの５倍だったと記憶している。
guys help i'm shitting my pants in fear
This thing is underrated. Against characters without plot armor the Zock is absolutely dangerous. As far as I’m aware those red things he has fire 30 HOMELANDER LASERS WORTH OF DAMAGE.
Can't mock the Zock!
Goofy ahh contraption, but underrated imo.
Zeon's amphibious MS designs are a unique combination of silly and horrifying. Really wish some of the unused ones like the Juagg or the Agg made it into the show.
Wow the Zock was done dirty, Journey to Jaburo did it better and made it look cooler like a Mobile Armor
なんか…ゾックって他のモビルスーツ
やモビルアーマーにはないゾクゾクさせる何ともいえない独特さがある
…がこの後ガンダムにあっけなく倒されたエピソードから…【見かけ倒し】
のイメージが赤い彗星の見立て通り定着したようだ。それでもこのフォルムの見た目に意外とファンは多いと思う。
なんか、可愛い。
1番可愛いのは、ゾックかアッガイどちらだろ？
『水中を移動してくるビーム砲台』
こう考えると恐ろしい兵器ではあるんだよな
個人的には当時はゾックの前後同じデザインが電車みたいで苦手でしたw
モビルスーツ水泳部ではアッガイ派だったな〜
@@tatchin2346
だから、本編での運用の仕方は間違ってる。単機で動かすのではなく、ズゴックのような近接格闘戦に優れた機体を複数で護衛する形で動かすのが良いと思う。
@@平井義人-q1l
随伴していたズゴックは途中でやられてしまいました…
Don't mock my Zock or I'll clean your clock.
アマゾン川流域に、こんなにも深い川があるのか？
ゾック
一年戦争期にジオン公国軍が開発した水陸両用ＭＳ
特筆すべきは、その火力の高さと機動性の高さ
火力は胴体内蔵の多数メガ粒子砲
機動性の高さは、脚部内蔵ホバー機構による
しかし、コストが高かったのと操縦性が悪かったのか一機しか生産・投入されなかった
え？あれ一基だけだったの？ そんな嘘どこからひっぱてきたんだよ？ どうせ後からのデタラメだろ？
計3機ってWikipediaに書いてた
ゴッグが「自分の部下はどこいったんだよ...」みたいにシャアズゴ眺めるのがすこwwww
あのシャアも「使えるのか…？」と言わしめた機体。
子供の頃に自分が初めて買ったガンプラがゾックだったのが今だに謎
God bless the zock.
Absolute amphibious unit.
この鈍そうな見た目がちょっと可愛くて好き。
ハロと同じ色だから、余計可愛く見えるw
水陸両用モビルスーツの中では、1番可愛いフォルムをしたデカイ奴。
企画の段階でハロのデザインがゾックで採用されてても違和感ないねｗ
It may look goofy but its essentially a hovering warship.
Look at all those mega particle cannons!
I guess water cooled stuff can solve a lot of problems.
i think he was suppose to go to the SD set but mistakenly went into the 0079 set.
I love how it's basically just A-posing all the time
いつも直立不動なのかわいい
パイロットの名前がボラスキニフというのもなんかカッコよかった
撃破されたのは陸上だし、オールドタイプがこれほど活躍できたので性能はかなりいいですね。
imagine going through all the effort to get there to only get one shotted.
This thing really wasn't so much of a mobile suit as just a heavily armed and armored swimming brick.
also there's the Gundam Thunderbolt version where they turned this thicc boi into a MS carrier capable of storing MS in its legs.
ゾックの倒れ方がいかにも安彦作画で好き
The best version of thy Zock is the one that appears in Journey to Jaburo.
I love the Zock.
My friends and I always called this the pineapple unit.
I always thought I remembered these having 4 legs!
Of the 3, 1 survived to the time of 0169. Dust if I recall.
The most broken, OP MS in Federation vs Zeon...
The memories just came rushing back. It was the only MS my brother would use in the VS mode.
UC169年頃には宇宙で活躍する模様...ww
ゾックもアッガイも可愛い
I hope it’s as fearsome as it looks
I still don't understand why zeon invested so much on aquatic mobile suit prototypes so much instead of standardizing their ground and space mobile suits as well as supporting units like dopp fighters and magella tanks, which were way more inferior than federation's standardized mass produced units.
Yes, aquatic mobile suits aren't the best way to spend budget, but they were the first Zeon MS with more or less useful beam weapons. Without them, the Gelgoog might have never been created.
@@ВасилийМорозов-л7х in a sense, I think that is correct. Zock's arsenal was very crucial towards the development of mega particle cannons which were used for zeon mobile armors later on. However, I think aquatic mobile suits have no reason to be that powerful and expensive especially in that era. Meanwhile, zeon's ground force was still suffering because most of them were still stuck in zaku J types and dom/gouf were still in limited production in the Jaburo Invasion.
モビルスーツを破壊して攻撃不能にするのではなく、パイロットを殺す事を目的にコクピットだけを執拗に狙ってくる天パの殺人鬼。
もとい、ジオンに恐怖を植え付けた
通称“白い悪魔”
@@burnruler7449
初めてガンダムに乗った時ですら、ビームサーベルでコクピットを狙った本物の悪魔:(；ﾞﾟ'ωﾟ'):
アムロにぶち抜かれたコックピットの中身は…想像したくないや
@@ゴミ箱を飛び越えた先にいる-s1h ポケ戦のケンプファーは実弾だからあれだけどビームライフルじゃ塵となって消し飛ぶから大丈夫？
「うわ～っ！」という一声で、果たして何人の男達が切り刻まれ、焼き殺されたことか
かわいいゾックにゾックォン
I always wondered how badass the Zock would look if it got like a "08th team"-updated visual treatment...
There's the Thunderbolt version which is a Zock torso mounted on a large hovercraft-like base that can carry four Acguys.
人にはわからないと思うけど
俺は昔からゾックが西川のりおに見えて仕方なかった！
まさか俺と全く同じ感性を持った人間がこんなコメント欄で見つかるなんて…！！
兄弟よ！！ｗ
もしや、これで全ての登場シーンかい？
ゾック可愛い。
ゾックは移動砲台って扱いだな。で、コレは映画からだな。
コックピットに360度モニターが開発されるまでは視覚解析No.1
なんか可愛い(だが火力は化け物)
Zeon always put it's cockpits in the dumbest, most vulnerable places on these things.
0:45 - 0:46
The ultimate weapon.
I'm just curious... When I played the zock in gundam universe the front is the same at the back... Well my question is is this machine can rotate its eye to the back? I mean is zock can rotate?
I think the pilots display changes. In gundam battle operation you can switch sides to quickly change direction
The pilots position rotates 180 degrees inside the suit and it can fight the same way in reverse
Big meaty Zock
その昔、幼少期に兄貴がこのゾックはガンダム3機つくれる性能があるとか言うてたw
The engineers of that unit must've been a mole, i mean look at it, it looks like a bipedal version of mole
やはり見かけ倒しか。
ゾック…
I always hated this mobile suits in federation vs zeon. It's so slow and easy to dodge but takes so many hits. And in the show it literally just shows up and gets blown up lmao.
"mommy look! i can swim! i can stand on land too! mommy! mommy!"
Space zock when?
結果的に、再放送&劇場版で（プラモも）ブームになったのは、言うまでもないですが、初回放送時（視聴率も低迷してて）この（ゾック等の）デザインを見た、クローバーやバンダイの担当者は、どう思ったのだろうか？。
Who needs to walk, right?
プラモデル作る時塗料の消費半端ないんだよな
ＰＳ２のガンダムトゥルーオデッセイでは最初のダークモビル同盟４将軍の機体として、ボス戦のチュートリアル的なキャラとして登場したが実際に使ってみたかったな。
Gundam Wing 💧❓
ゾックかわいいな
普通にメガ粒子砲9問はやばい
移動砲台なら活躍できたか
まあアムロがやばい
いや相変わらずアムロが色々とおかしい
Combat data from the fallen Zock would be used to develop… the Zogojuaju!
I look like this irl
やっぱ天パだけ動きなんかおかしいよ(震え声)
最近では「ゾックは移動砲台的なポジだからモビルアーマーに分類される」って考察もあるみたいだな。
なまじ人型（腕と足が２本づつある）だからなんだけど、微妙だよな。
’８０年代のガンプラブームでも、高いわり（1/144で６００円、ガンタンクやジオングと同価格）に人気なかったイメージ。
［ゾック］
ジオン軍の水陸両用MSの一つ。
前後の形状が同じという珍しい機体
となっておりジェネレーターもザクの
4倍の出力のものが搭載された事で
前後に合計8門のメガ粒子砲を装備している。
ただし大きさの関係から脚部は
ホバーで移動を行う為だけのものに
なっているのでお世辞にも機動性が
いいとは言えず、シャアからも
「見掛け倒しで無ければいいが。」
と言われる始末で最終的にアムロに
一撃で(劇場版では61式戦車に)
撃破されている。
劇場版に出てきたっけ……
@@地球連邦軍人
一応出てきてますよ〜( ´∀｀)
Bocchi the zock
Fucking cool.
ゾックが打たれて豪快に倒れたけど、裏表対称のあの形で、あんな仰向けには倒れないよね。くちばし？邪魔して横になるかな。
地面がむき出しだから重みで沈む感じだろう
ファーストガンダムのMSの中で随一の出オチ感w
ちなみにMAならザクレロ一択w w
シャア「やはり見かけ倒しだったか」
I want MG Zock bandai make it happen
ジオン軍が誇る御神体 戦場の絆では巨神兵化し猛威を振るう「薙ぎ払いえ!」連邦前線が壊滅した時もある。
連ジで無差別に撃ちまくってビル破壊した思い出
田舎のピンサロに行くと出てきますよね