Smart Meters: What You Need to Know
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They were talking about rolling blackouts not long ago, this is a way of isolating your mains whilst keeping the grid active for business and government.
Where's the safety study on these wifi emitting meters?? There are None!
HI Andy can you find out please where we can find the expiry date on the meter
Our relatives is only showing when it was put in but we cannot find when it expires thanks
They do have old style meters but they tell people it will cost 130 pounds
What irks me, are the “Standing Charges. Roughly half my monthly bill is made up of being charged essentially for gas and electricity that I haven’t used. It is amazing to me that this industry standard still exists - just energy firms scalping the British people.
@@r.h.8754 Sorry, to disagree, but that should be the company’s problem, not the consumer. Equally, it accounts to a punitive tax on the consumer. A means by which the consumer is taxed for not using energy. If the companies actually used customers money to supply a service and invest in infrastructure the situation would be understandable.
It is decided by ofgen, their flawed reasoning is that it off sets the cost of electricity units for low income high usage customers. (people who need to run medical equipment).
@@garyburford5774you mean the same infrastructure that stores the electicity and gas and also gets the electricity and gas to your house or is that all just done by magic?
@@gg-ct3fo Again, the infrastructure is the company’s investment. The cost to the consumer should be what we use, not what we don’t use. Equally, much of the infrastructure, ie distribution has existed for decades. Maintenance of said is up to the energy company. If they are capable of giving dividends to investors they are making more than enough to plough some of their vast profits (record breaking in most cases) back into infrastructure.. invest first and then provide a dividend if the money is available. It is the more appalling the standing charges can make up to 50 percent of a consumer bill. The big word here is consumers! This is not helped with all the “climate change” and environmentally friendly nonsense, most of which is politically loaded and highly questionable.
Some of the correspondents think that standing charges are just a "freebie" for the energy suppliers they think, as you say, that it gets to their homes by magic. I don't use lots of council facilities but I still have to pay council tax!
Imagine that, 33 million, would you believe it. They love their symbolism!
Only last year they were saying there wasn't enough installers.... as I understand it there still isnt
See in Dublin the attack on d kids was 23-11-23....ol' masons n their symbolism
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as there are millions upon millions of us who will not have the smart meter it will be very interesting to see how this is implemented
We will be forced, like all the other crap they have pushed on us as of late
We have to stick together and refuse to have something in our private homes that we do not want. We are sovereign as we are the ones that pay, not the government nor the energy company.
They are dangerous to health too especially if someone has a 'collector meter' installed which collects readings from nearby properties. The EMF is the problem.
@@carlvaz True, but we are not sovereign *because* we pay; we are sovereign because we already have inalienable rights.
@@Khayyam-vg9fw You are very right! Thanks for correcting and clarifying this.
I read my meters at the end of each month and work out how much it is going to cost me and I'm normally spot on.
It takes a few minutes yet they say it saves time saving you reading a meter. I'm not desperate about saving a few minutes.
They say it allows you to see how much energy you are using. I know how much I've using because almost every month is similar, more used in winter than summer. I don't want neither need a smart meter.
You do realise you could still do that with a smart meter if you wanted to. Just you don't need to.
I am with Octopus for my sins and every couple of months they try a fast one to try and rip me off, but because I have old style meters I am able to prove exactly how much energy I have used in gas and electric. With smart meters I hate to think what they would get up to with their creative accounting, blows my mind they could do anything they wanted and I would not be able to do fock all.
You must be one of the few!@@tvguy61
@@tvguy61 Me neither.
What exactly is this "fast one" that Octopus use to "try and rip" you off?
My energy company sent around 4 guys to try and force me to have a "Smart Meter" installed even though I kept on refusing to have one fitted, 1 was a Locksmith (to change my front door locks after they break in), 1 was an Engineer (to replace the meter), 1 was a so called Bailiff (to serve an apparent Court order), 1 was just a backup guy who tried the intimidation tactics!!
I can tell you NOT one of them stepped foot into my property, I waited until they were about to drill out my door lock and then I opened the door and let rip on them, Bailiff guy tried to come the Big One but was soon shut up, Court order was a message on his phone of which he would't let me read! Total BS.. Locksmith guy packed up his kit and could't get out the front gate quick enough, Engineer guy was right behind him, Backup guys intimidation tactics were soon shut up once I warned him that if he doesn't get off the property then I would let my BIG dog loose and he'd suffer the consequences, Bailiff guy went out the front gate quickly once he herd me mention the dog followed by its sidekick and they both sat outside in their car for at least 1/2 hour before they buggered off and were never to be seen or heard of again..
I just wonder how many other people have been confronted by these goons and given into their bully-boy tactics??
@@kmprewlofcrku6164 $12 a month charge is a scam for paying for something you do not want, and I thought my country was bad for ripping us off ;-)
Far canal. That's shocking 😮
@@unitysprings3631These companies think they can run roughshod over us citizens and the government allows them to do so but not I, I know my rights and I won't let them control me or my family ;-)
What was the reason given for changing your meter? The tale is incomplete and can not be properly judged without knowing the whole context.
Any threat to break into your property has to be approved in the case of a very serious reason. That includes out of date legacy meter, safety issues, suspicion of stealing electricity by, for instance, by-passing the meter, failure to pay your bill, refusal to disable solar panel back-feed when mains cable work is necessary. All of these are covered by the current Electricty Supply Act and Regulations. I'm sure there's even more legitimate reasons.
@@JosephWood1941-iz6mi Honestly there was no reason given other than the energy supplier wanted to change the meters in the area and they didn't like getting a NO from me on several occasions, I still get text messages from them on occasion to book for a date on meter replacement, but now I just ignore them after what they tried to pull, and as I have already stated the Court Order was a totally fictitious lie on their part i.e. BS!!..
I'm a retired, due to illness, metering engineer.
They won't make these compulsory. There are SO many properties where they can't be fitted, due to space on the meter board or signal problems.
When the roll-out started, most customers targeted/bullied were either vulnerable or elderly. When we turned up on the doorstep, most of the lads would talk customers out of the installation.
We were even sent out cold calling on a lot of properties.
The days of fitting trad meters and a good wage were great, but I'm glad to be out of it now.
If you were a metering engineer, then you know full well that smart meters don't take up any more space on the meter board than legacy meters, possibly less. No installation problems in my case. Signal problems can be a problem in some instances. In these cases they will operate in a non-smart mode. You'll still get a home monitor enabling you to monitor your usage in real time and historically. A feature that I use regularly. You don't need fo use it if you don't want to. There's also good mobile signal where I live so the readings are regularly sent to the provider via DCC.
Legacy meters are probably no longer manufactured.
@@JosephWood1941-iz6mi You need more space if a hot shoe needs to be fitted.
Also, I worked in rural Northumberland. Lots of old stone houses, where commissioning was a big problem, and a few properties would have the electric meter situated in a barn/pole in a field, etc., so the IHD couldn't be paired up.
km@@JosephWood1941-iz6mi
This is not about enabling the user to monitor their electricity usage. This is all about big government/corporations monitoring YOU including how much energy you use, what your using it for and when you are using it. This information will enable them to create the optimum tariffs and prices that maximise their profits, control what electricity you will be ALLOWED and when you will be allowed it. Be SMART refuse these devices.
They only know what you are using it for if you have smart appliances also.
These are all about control. They can restrict your supply remotely.
The biggest issue is the radiation harm as they clearly emit levels above safe limits.
And they can remotely change the rate per KW used without notice too.
@@geehammer1511 no they can't, they have to give written notification.
@@ibrstellar1080 so more than a mobile phone? Don't be daft.
@@ibrstellar1080yes. I've had mines installed thru debt near five years ago.im in glasgow.iv had a blood clot below the knee.leg ulcer.nausea and gag sensations and leg numbness ever since.
I had a strange problem on my smart meter around 18 months ago. I would set my car charger to start at 00.30, the beginning of cheap rate, but the meter was recording it as starting at 6pm. This meant it was charging at top dollar. The supplier was having none of it, my argument was, who sets a charger at that time? Eventually it was found to be the clock on the meter was out. Took a lot of phone calls and arguing to sort it out. Bottom line, keep an eye on these meters if you have one.
Ditch the EV mate.
I have just put in a complaint to Eon about the victimisation of people who don't have smart meters also I complained about the bogus letters they keep sending me saying my meter is old and need replacing but I've just had the full electrics checked including the meter and it's safe for many more years.......absolute bastards!
If your meter is past its calibration expiry date it has to be changed by law.
The tests carried out by an electrician do not check the accuracy of your meter no matter what your electrician might tell you.
@JosephWood1941-iz6mi the landlord has the paperwork that states the meter next needs to be checked in 2026 so how can a person in an office know my meter is old and needs replacing. Eon has never visited my house to check the meter so how could they possible know.
@@daveeboney7089
@daveeboney7089
Things might be a little different since I worked for an Electricity Board. They owned the meters and kept detailed and accurate records about the meter including calibration details, when and where it was installed and when it needed to be changed in accordance with the relevant legal standards.
I think that meters are now owned by a specialist meter contractor who leases them out to either the authority who installs them (National Grid, for example) or the energy provider (EON, for example). It would then be the responsibility of the owner of the meter to keep a track of the information detailed above.
Changing a meter at specified intervals is a bit like shops having to have weigh scales checked and calibrated at legally specified intervals. Also fuel pumps.
It's not practical to calibrate an electricity (or gas) meter on situ so it's easier to just change it with a newly calibrated and tested meter.
In the old days when the rotating disc meters were used the removed meters would be stripped down, parts like bearings replaced, and recalibrated and tested. They could then be used somewhere else.
Making sure that measuring devices are accurate, especially when used for trade or similar things, protects both the customer and the supplier.
Speed radar guns must have an up-to-date calibration certificate as does a breathalyser at the police station.
Hope this helps.
@@daveeboney7089plenty cr-ppy data about. Just set them right
In the last few weeks I got a letter from "wales and west utilities " informing me my meter needs checking as it's out of date. I phoned them and asked them why my housing association didn't notify me, as I'm due a gas safety check next week by them....... they fobbed me off with the safety issue bs.
So I emailed them and told them I would only deal with them if they did it under instruction of my HA, and I would not grant access.
Lo and behold, some scrote turned up trying to get to the meter, and told him he was trespassing and to F-off.
My ha check the meter every year, and boiler etc, and I still have not had an email back from wales and west ........... it has scam written all over it 🙄
It's a legal requirement to replace an out-of- date meter. Like all instrumentation it can drift out of calibration tolerances with age.
You can only save money on energy by switching everything off! Even then, we are paying extortionate fees for the privilege of having our energy provided to us!! A smart meter will not help the consumer in any way whatsoever.
Yeah, I have to pay 30p every day just to have electricity.
They are already telling people they have to have them. I try telling my sister she didn't have to but she did it. It is such a bloody scam.
We had the smart meters removed after challenging the accuracy of the readings. They came and put reference meters alongside the smart meters and found the electricity meter was 17% over charging and the gas meter was 6% overcharging so we had them removed and swapped to old school meters and our bills dropped. We had compensation from the company we were with at the time but EON who installed them as they insisted that a smart meter being installed refused as we couldn’t prove that it was inaccurate when they were billing us.
These meters are just a con, years ago there was a group setup to produce a standard protocol for meters used in various industries (gas,electric and water) the group ratified the standard and no one adopted it. This is because they want to restrict the ability and ease of swapping suppliers because you lose the smart side of the meter and have to go take and supply manual readings. There are several generations of these “smart” meters and each gereation doesn’t Improve their accuracy or reliability, why is that?
Funny how it's always overcharging 😊
The installer should have calibrated both meters.
What energy company fitted your traditional meters?
they will connect to smart network, monitor how many showers you have, how many times you use the washing machine, kettle and stop you or hit with a carbon tax. They want control over every aspect of your life
Tin foil hat alert
@@Jezza_One not at all the WEF are openly taking about it
I bet your triple jabbed and wear a face nappy. Probably got a TV licence too. 🙄@@Jezza_One
I think the new energy bill has something about that. If you use too much energy the meters would cut the power. Think that is not planned for a few years tho. The scary bit was the sugestion of either getting councils to declare non smart meter houses unfit for habitation or jailing folk who won't change which would both lead to evictions ( You can't Pay your morgage if you are in jail ). I gather the govenment put it back till after the election.
Haha ffs as if they want to know how many times you shower lol
I live alone, I know exactly what electricity I am using without a Smart Meter. A man comes round and reads my meter once a year to negate the estimated readings 😂
Exactly. It's all about ability to cut you off when they feel like it, nothing else (for example there is not enough power in the grid because of EV charging)
Not seen a meter reader in a few years around our way. I guess I should charge my supplier as I do it monthly for them.
@@johndoe-vy4bt Rubbish. They cannot cut you off using a smart meter. It is simply a meter with a mobile phone unit attached. To cut you off, they have to have physical access to the meter and remove the main fuse.
@@davidsmart3249 do some reaserch before posting stupid comment like this. Yes they can.
@@davidsmart3249wrong.
EON rang me yesterday, offering me £10.00 free gas if I get a smart meter… = no thank you….
Wow. Whilst they get, what, £400+ off the govt
They offered me £100 to get a smart meter no thanks
Beware ambiguous words like 'smart'. Or it could be painful.
It could smart very much indeed. My supplier lied to me re old new meter being out of date! They were designed to go round the clock not just for 25000 odd units. It’s all about the reset somewhere-must resist. Just like Disney losing 2 billion on woke stuff-their movies don’t attract the patronage they aimed for.
I think something you haven’t picked up on earlier this week on tv it was reported that 20% were not working and not giving correct billing.
I hate the idea of smart meters. My electricity company said they would be changing soon and I can't refuse. So I asked is it against the law not to have electricity in your home. They said no. So my reply was come the day smart meters have to be fitted. To disconnect me from the electricity grid. He was a little shocked at what I said. Then asked if I wanted a notice put on my file. I said yes. Plus I hate the way they lie to you
I've been off grid for over 4 years, it's not difficult or even really that expensive to set up now. 400w+ solar panels are freely available for about £100 each.
@@551moley I would love to do what you have done. But being disabled on a low income. Doesn't allow me that luxury.
@@551moley where did you get these from please?
@@551moleywould you mind sharing your knowledge on how to set this up. I’m getting really pressured to get the meter by my husband.
@@551moley What do you do at night, or when the sun is not shining? Run a diesel generator? Even if you have a battery, it won't necessarily be able to guarantee you power throughout the winter, and the cost is still prohibitive for most people.
I provide a meter reading on the 12th of every month, if I end up with a smart meter I will continue to provide a reading on the 12th of each month. That way they cannot suddenly hit me with a sill bill. I have a record of electricity readings going back years.
OVO wrote to me again this week trying to push me onto a "big brother meter". Its in the bin. Im on an old prepayment meter and It suits me fine.
I will not have a smart meter I go by pay as I go find this much better to manage
Paygs are to shift to smartmeter paygs. Hth
I keep getting harrassed to get one , i just ignore the company.
I will never have a smart meter while I have a choice. I also avoid one of the issues raised by never paying by direct debit when I don't have to! That said, it infuriated me recently to read that the regulator had accepted the energy companies "reason" for charging more to customers who pay quarterly. Apparently we are more likely to default, forget to pay or some such - which I've never done in more than 40 years...
I had a smart meter for my electricity supply. I asked Octopus Energy to put it in dumb mode, as they kept sending my statements at odd times. They said it was not possible for the meter to be put in dumb mode!!! I switched energy suppliers and went back to the company that fitted the smart meter and told them to swap it for a non-smart meter. All of this took months and months of negotiation by E-mail, and finally I now have a non-smart digital meter.
The energy companies have been bribed by the government (£11 billion of it from our taxes), and we must remember that we the taxpayer are sovereign, not the government nor the energy company. They are planning to fit equipment in our private homes that we do not want. In a democracy, we should have the right to object. I am sure there are plenty of non-smart meters about, and if not they can manufacture them.
Denver residents found that they couldn't set their own AC, because the energy supplier, via the smart meter, had. People were hot, but could not cool their own homes.
I'm led to believe that if anyone in a house has a pacemaker a smart meter will interfere with it. I have a copy of a letter to send if they insist - no way will they install one on our house!
I also have a friend who moved and started with violent headaches - found out there was a smart meter in the house. She had it removed and headaches went!
I get a smart meter installation every few months from EDF. No chance I'll stick with the key meter thanks
In theory a lot of these things seem harmless and indeed beneficial just like a cashless society on the surface pretty innocuous, very convenient in fact.
However the more sinister side is about control regarding smart meters when this climate bollocks really takes hold like they’re constantly pushing if they decide you’re using ‘Too much’ energy they can cut off your supply or limit your use
Even Einstein would call out the BS if he was still with us. If my appliance is on I am paying if its off I am not. How smart is that.
Smart meters are not "smart", they are just complicated. complexity is the enemy of reliability, simple is always better. Einstein did actually say as much.
He's the one on TV advertising them
Bloody sellout!@@ryankavanghnew-in4fk
Einstien worked at a patents office and stole other peoples ideas. He was a fraud.
Everything's inverted. Read the accounts of Al not being that smart, and his ideas not his?
It is never for our benefit! Note how low use pensioners are being fined by high standing charges now??
Of course it's not. It's about remote control over your power supply.
Mega high standing charge on business with low energy consumption! My pal barely uses any electric but has old fashioned three phase so has three meters!! Over £2000 a quarter! It's disgraceful! They wants all businesses gone its obvious too me now!
If they are not doing so already, I believe that energy companies may employ differential pricing to encourage people to have a smart meter installed. Similarly, we may find that switching from one energy supplier to a cheaper one may, in future, be conditional on having a smart meter. One way or another, we will all be forced into using them whether we want them or not. People should also view the Blackbeltbarrister's RUclips postings on energy supplies and smart meters. While smart meters require a 'phone signal to operate (not every household has an adequate signal), it is illegal to wilfully tamper with the signal to, or workings of, a smart meter just as it is illegal to tamper with standard gas and electric meters.
British Gas are trying a new one to get you to have smart meters by giving you half price energy on sundays but ONLY if you have a smart meter. So save yourself a few pence and get that smart meter. The onlyt way thay could get me to even think about having one is wave the Racket that is standing charges.
Loadsa folks' god is money. I reckon it's a test
Sounds too much like Rollerball, the original,but I dont think it's too far away.
My friend has just got her energy supplier to fit a "classic" meter when she refused a smart meter
Smart means pain
I’m getting more and more concerned about direct debits. It appears big business can dip into your bank account any time they want and take whatever they want.
Standing orders are better. Set amounts in set dates. Everyone I know paying by DDM is overpaying by huge amounts.
You can make a faraday cage to cover the meter, stops all transmissions
All I know is that they will never fit one in my home.
3 million not working correctly, why would I need one.
So, understand the principles.
The tariff you are on is key. If it's a fixed tariff, then no matter what time of day you use the energy, the cost i.e. the p/kWh you pay is the same. If you are on a 'Time of use' tariff and you have agreed different tariffs for the different times of day, then the time of day you use the energy will determine what you pay. However, the data they hold is available to you, and if you want it, request it. They may charge for it, and I have not looked into that aspect, but if they are charging you on time of day, they will hold the data. Otherwise, how do THEY calculate your bill??..😉
I didn't want one but brought a house with one fitted.
I don't like the way they push direct debits offering discounts but technically having control over what they take from your bank
I enjoy your information chats and I agree with your dislike of Smart meters.
Another reason I don’t like the smart meter is it has affected the payments you get if you have solar panels which I have.
Have you heard of this issue?
Keep up the great work😊👍
but they dont save you money , how can they ? tiered pricing later on perhaps ?
They paid people last year who moved their energy usage out of peak time. So, yes smart meters can save you money and in some cases they can pay you.
@@gmo4250 so basically controlling your energy supply to benifit themselves. Smart meters only help the suppliers not the consumer.
Just had a letter from brit gas telling me I should have a smart meter. Have written a nice message on back of said letter, telling them politely to stick smart meter were the sun don't shine. Have put letter in their envelope and returned it to em.
Awaiting their response. !!!!
Spot on Mate 😷
Heating ENG came to replace and setup new WIFI thingy for the heating system. Dad hacked it having never seen one before in seconds started showing the Engineer the secret settings. Pops was an Tecky ENG before he had to stop working due to a nasty injury.
2026 smart meters whether you like it or not or prison
Had a 'smart' meter for about 6 years now, the only problem I had was last week when it stopped all the gas coming into my house and it went into Vend Mode (don't know why because I'm a direct debit customer). Eon and to send their man round to change it and even he wondered why it had done that. Coincidentally I change my tariff a few days earlier...maybe they're not that smart after all...
They could also switch from REAL (resistive loads) to Apparent (inductive/capacitive loads) Power.
Meaning your cheap LEDs (etc) will no longer be cheap.
Your domestic contract only allows the supplier to charge for real power (kwh).
I’ve had three calls in the last 6 months from the energy company (Mumbai) giving me an appointment to fit a smart meter. The average life expectancy of a meter is about 15 years or there abouts mine is just over 8 years so I told the caller to buzz off.
Haha I’ve just hid one installed great bit of kit, no more going out in the cold to read the meters, control lol, so many paranoid people, relax you’ve nothing to fear.
Over here down under in Australia I have had subsidised solar fitted to my house, I had to have a smart meter fitted due to the rebates. Now that the energy companies have woken up to the fact they are losing money during daylight hours they are wanting to charge people with solar for putting energy into the system. The Federal Government are still going ahead with trying to close down coal fired power stations giving the base load to the country. I am now at a stage of considering fitting batteries to my solar and cutting the power from the poles.
I don’t have one, keep refusing
Do yourself a real favour, if you don’t trust your energy supplier with a meter in dumb mode, build yourself a Faraday Cage and Cover the meter, job done
FARADAY CAGE..?
Yes, named after our countries premier Victorian inventors Micheal Faraday, who discovered how electromagnetism worked and one side effect was how to block it, hence a Faraday Cage, simple really, it blocks the communication on the Wide Area Network, using the cell network, from your not so smart meter with it’s server
Thank for the info😊
Off peak discounts now are just to make you sign up. In a few years, there will be peak pricing only.
I strongly suspect my smart meter is being manipulated and controlled by an outside agent, it may well be a computer is working out what i pay for my gas and electric. But i have noticed an average daily consumption whether I'm haveing a light days use or a heavy days use, i definitely think something isn't right.
Do you mean the average has gone up?
@@johnw2758 yes very amusing, my average will go up and down according to the season, I understand that. But I believe the readings that are sent back to hq, should be the unadulterated basis for my monthly bill,but something isnt quite right, the energy companys are up to something.
The company get money for fitting them from the government ( always make a note of your readings each month) someone I know got a 3k bill for a mid tarrace house true bill was around £174 !
Theres loads of decent lads that work for the leki comp will for a few sqwid bring tail from the back of your meter to a fuse box so you can run dish wash and washing machine water heater , as soon as the guy does it change provider , mine was done 9 years ago and ive got my new smart meter still cheap as fk , jus dont take the piss !
Smart people don't have smart meters.
if they install a smart meter buy your own meter and replace it perfectly legal about 500 quid job done.
Is it you then don't pay standing charge. So pays for itself in less than a few years.
Mind you, they're on about doing away with SC
I dont want a Smart Meter, despite SHELL being ultra pushy, my partner has done lots of his own research o Smart Meters and they give off Radiation, i dont want to be irradiated in my own home! However its all about control, *ankers!!
What type of radiation do they give off ?
I can only think it's the same type your mobile phone does as that's the way it communicates back to the energy company.
@@derekcable quite possibly, I think they held a Geiger to it if I remember rightly.
@@metabutterfly7900 well if that's the case it's no different to your mobile phone.
@@metabutterfly7900 geiger counters only measure ionizing radiation so can't detect elctro-magnetic radiation
I don't see why i should pay standing charges for having a meter as opposed to a smart meter ,like you say a meter is a meter ,both are in or on the propery.
I flatly resuse to have a smart meter as others have said its a control thing,ive heard that companies can shut your supply off if you have a debt without the need to get baliffs involved,i don't know if that's true or not.
Ive also heard that its free to put in but expensive to remove,if indeed you can remove it.
What about the health issues connected to the electromagnetic pollution smart meters produce?
Exactly. I've had both meters installed in near 5 years because of debt ,medical issues ever since..blood clot below the knee,leg numbness and leg ulcers,nausea and gag sensations
What about mobile phones. Guys have been warned enough to not keep them in trouser pockets.
@@John-du6ec
I'm just wondering if you had the Convid jabs, as blood-clotting is a common symptom.
@@EIRE55not 1 jab
@@John-du6ec
Well, at least that's one you can cross off the list. Stay well, and all the best for 2024.
What about RF radiation from the HAN network and the energy monitor
I've been desperately trying to get a smart meter and they won't bloody give it to me. As far as I can see there's no money for installations.
I'm not concerned about this supposed lack of control. Even with an old-fashioned meter, they can put you on a pay as you go tarrif whenever they want.
Where there's a scheme there's a Schemer.
Who remembers back in the 70s when we were all told that all the new technology coming was going to make everything so much better for us , yeah right 😅
It's the real reason they introduced smokeless zones, so folk can't keep warm by alternate means; they just want ultimate control. It's just about greed, and control, that's all. Stop being manipullated, and ignore them
You,d kick a thief out of your house immediately, without thought ?? 😏
Hi Andy, I'm an X gas fitter, everyone needs to hang on to thier old meters as long as POSSIBLE, THEY ARE A CON HONESTLY A NIGHTMARE i used to work for a big company that fitted them..
I am with EDF. They keep trying to get me to have one of these. I have now had 3 phone calls (from a Sunderland number) in about 3 weeks. I told them it is now bordering on harrassment!
I actually want a smart meter but my power company refuse to replace it! It's a GEC Meters Ltd, Cert in Feb 1999 and has to be read manually. I purchased a monitoring device that clamps around the meter tails, but have found that there are inconsistent readings between the two devices, with the old spinning meter reading more. I do like to see the actual real time readings via an app on my phone, so I can determine that everything is okay.
Parliament recently passed the energy bill which now gives the energy companies the right to force entry to fit a smart meter if you resist you could end up in prison.
They must have shares in these companies then
I'll do a bit of bird then.
No chance. Counter intelligence narrative. They have no legal right to do that
Not quite. It's the framework as it were but govt still needs to expressly make the allowance.
No, that's not true. You are not out of pocket if the meter is in dummy mode. If the meter does not send the information to your supplier, you need to send them manually to retain accurate billing.
Mine is wrapped in tin foil
Have you measured the radiation levels?
@@ibrstellar1080It isn’t sitting on his head! 🤣
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Make a box that fits over the meter and cover it with lead
Thin steel is good enough for a Faraday cage if that’s what you are on about? 🤔
i just has a smart meter fitted in dumb mode . i had no choice . i have solar panels . thank you for your help like your video s
Would a Faraday cage around the meter stop the in and out signal?
The neighbour had Eletric central heating put in and solar panals, don't think that cheap. I got a small radiator and that cost abit to run. As for smart meters I'll hold off as long as I can.
The meter box is yours, even if the meter isn't. Lock your meter box now! Don't let a smart meter to be installed
I had a smart meter installed by octopus over a year ago but it couldn’t be commissioned to operate because our village, Horsmonden in Kent, is not covered by 02. I want to change my car to an EV car but I won’t do this unless I can have the Economy 7 tarriff. I’ve read on line that smart meters can be switched to Economy 7 mode and I’ve asked Octopus if they do this for me and I’m waiting to hear from them - total nightmare
My water company (monopoly) says they will shut my water off at the end of this month unless I have a smart water meter installed. I don't want a smart meter, but going without water is definitely not an option.
So what can I do really?
So how much would be taking over or lease the radio transmission system to switch on night rates and continue with the old meters? Or could we get a local radio hams to transmit it over a local area?
I would love to have my smart meter working so I wouldn’t need to keep reading and sending them the readings but due to all our multi apartment meters being in a concrete walled basement room, no signal can get in or out. The supplier said they can’t resolve it at present until the next generation meter comes out, which they say will cure this.
We always have a choice Andy🇬🇧🇬🇧
i wont have one. My friend suffered constant headaches after having one installed. One of my children's meter's makes constant noise but the provider says theres nothing wrong with it and wont change it. I'd be very concerned if the electric could be cut off remotely without warning and certain medical equipment couldnt be charged or the freezer full of food defrosted, or while part cooked food had to be then thrown away.
I have not been able to read my smart meter for 3 years and Utility Warehouse are doing nothing to help me. I was told they would get it inspected in jan 2020 still waiting
anything that is smart is for corporations or government benifit not for ours. you can have your own meter fitted as long it is fitted by a professional with a curtificate .you can have free electric if you have the nerve.
I dont need a "smart"( there's a euphemism for you) meter to tell me to turn things off to save power. Surely the whole point of these monstrosities is to save money for the energy companies by not employing meter men who used come round quarterly and read a meter. The whole need for the abominable estimated bill was to reduce the number employed by once or twice yearly meter reading.
I'm with EON i have a smart and have had no problem
They are telling me my meter needs replaced and I don't like smart meters for many of the reasons you have outlined.
My electric company won’t fit a standard metre., place I moved into has key metre.
Purely out of curiosity,I wonder what a large neodymium magnet (easily purchased) would do to a smart meter?
Unfortunately we did agree to a smart meter after years of saying no, however after a several hours power cut last night the indoor readout failed to turn on properly. I've done a hard reset as per instructions from EDF but may have to wait for 24 hours for it to show the balance. We are pay and go which I do prefer but I do like to know how much electricity I've got as the app won't tell me I assume till the meter is working again.
i have pre-payment meters(by choice) and will never have a so called smart meter as long as i have a hole in my (will let you fill in the last word 4letters begins with A)
The government will be able to monitor them. And turn off.
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I don't need to know anything about them cause I'm not having one :)