TV Licence: A Day In Court - What Actually Happens
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- Let’s take a look at what actually happens if you get a court date for a fine over a TV Licence offence.
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You want everybody to hit the "like" button - well, I've given you your first DISLIKE - just for fun
You wont be the last, but the way youtube works. The more interaction there is, the bigger the reach of the video.
And it would be nice for more people worried about not paying the TV licence to see this video to put their minds at ease, wouldn't it?
@@Keithbarber Why?
Was it don't out of spite?
@@richardcranium4830 I just do it for a silly wind up, no malicious intent. And I hope people see what my intention is - a bit of fun
Now, go to my channel and put a dislike on each and every one of my videos if you want to - be my guest 😀👍
@@ChilliJonCarne I agree john
Think how less busy the courts would be without the TV licence fiasco. Scrap the bloody thing imediately
It's utterly shocking to see the BBC and capita abhorrent abuse of courts in the United Kingdom when criminals are getting away with murder.
wasting court time from important cases TVL should be fined for wasting time
@@davidsworld5837 absolute abhorrent waste of court time. It's like the government and the BBC working hand-in-hand and abusing the court system without impunity
That's OK, thanks. We'll keep the licence fee and the BBC.
@@PastPresented Just because something is set in law doesn't make it moral.
keep your door shut, keep your gob shut, sign nothing. JOB DONE !
Intresting statement scouser Blackburn..age 73..at moments have tv licence..will be terminated..standard programme tv repetitive. Oap.
You explained it better than I did, Thomas
Simple. Straight to the point. And 100% correct!
The trouble is that's all well and good. Until someone lets a TV Licence Inspector through the front door in ignorance. One woman I knew had her daughter round and there was a knock at the door "I'm a TV Licence Inspector..its a bit cold. Any chance I can pop in?" Daughter let him in..WITH EASTENDERS ON THE TV. Caution , magistrates Court...£400 fine.
@@petermaccabe8921 she almost certainly signed their papers.. they use it as evidence. I knew of a TV licence guy had a part time job selling & measuring up for kitchens. Guess what else he was doing?
I had two goons knock at my door, asking to do a survey of electrical equipment, I agreed. After the 3rd or 4th question, they asked about tv programs. I asked them if they were from tv licensing? They said they were. I lied and said I don’t have a tv. They said ‘it’s our standard reply to that statement, do you mind if we verify that by entering your premises’. I gave them my standard response F Off!
I followed them down the road, and shouted TV Licensing, when they knocked at neighbours houses. They promptly left my street
That's a first and a low tactic to try to gain property entry.... 😂😂
I simply don't trust anyone knocking at the door, whether they're selling dusters and cleaning products out a big bag or asking to sign up for a charity, you should be highly suspicious of all strangers at the door. You don;t have to answer anything and just politely say no thanks
I had one dressed as royal mail minus the logo. He even had a red bag. He approached me as if to sign for a parcel on his machine. He didn't identify himself or say I actually had a parcel just the way he acted. I instantly new this bloke was a scum bag inspector. He initially refused to say who he was, shut the door as soon as he confessed.
Had another one put his foot in my door when I went to close it. Swiftly told him to remove it before I do.
After the first two visit they sent 2 people round for the next few visits.
Gaining entry by mis-representation?
Very scummy. Sounds like a distraction burglary !
Even if not from TV Licensing, why would you give anyone a list of items that can be found at your address?
When I was a student I told them I was too poor and couldn’t afford a tv, but they still wanted to come in to check, as they walked towards the door I said bye and shut the door in their face.
They are scum don't pay it
Yeah don’t let them in!
I’ve got friends who have chosen to never watch TV and don’t have one. The hoops they have to jump through on a regular basis to explain they have no intention of using a TV is sickening.
Really. I don't have a TV. I let them in and proved it and they didn't contact me again for two years.
I've never had a problem
They didn't take you to court for having access to a phone? Even live youtube needs a tv licence and zoom 😡 loads of bollocks they can easily stitch you up. I recently cancelled mine and awaiting a visit. Lady refused at first until I told her I had already cancelled my direct debit.
@@whatwhatyepbut they still contacted you
@@tracymackinnon4692 But it wasn't a drama, no hoops. Simple human interaction.
I can't believe these people were taken to court over the TV licence. Never let them in it's that simple, you have no contract with the BBC, you don't need to talk to them. Don't even open the door. They have no right to enter. Great video 👍🏿.
Exactly
I think they can eventually apply for a warrant to enter your premises and they turn up with the police to search for evidence. (there are a few videos on youtube of this actually happening, and they do turn on the TV and say "look its tuned in so you must be watching tv without a license")
@@mikebrannigan6530 Really🤔 As far as I know you don't need to let them in, they tried it with me. As for the cops they can't work for the BBC. Never let these people in, don't pay.
@@mikebrannigan6530 BBC man or woman need to show proper information to a judge to get a warrant to go in your home they can't lie justice of the peace need to sign it stamp it police is only there in case u get out a gun shoot the rat lol Best thing don't open the door or talk to them or phone them or write to them as long u not watching live TV only RUclips ect they can't do any thing it a TV tax on the poor. Mps don't have to pay that why I don't been 4 years comeing up this November people try knocking but can't get in as I lucky live in a block of flats with a key fob and I laughed at there letters just don't watch live TV and u be OK spend the money takeing family out ect not to the rats that try to cover up stars that hurt kids few years ago
@@mikebrannigan6530 Assuming they have a warrant of entry it is by peaceful means only (they cannot break the door down if you refuse to answer) - the police are only there to prevent a breach of the peace. Even if you do let them in do not allow them to touch your property (i.e. switching on the TV) and if they insist then ask to be recompensed for the cost of the electricity. Oh, and they are not allowed to view what's on your PC, laptop or mobile phone. Best just not to let them in.
Abhorrent nonsensical waste of Magistrates time when they could be dealing with more serious cases. When will we see the BBC in the docks?
By definition Magistrates do not deal with serious offences.
Actually magistrates deal with all criminal cases. For the more serious ones they are the gateway to the Crown Court system and jury trials. 100% of criminal cases are tried in front of magistrates in the first instance.
They use to pick up a signal. That you were watching bbc but years ago you could pick the same signal from a radio ... the best way is not to say anything to them infact if you have a spy hole in door do not even answer it , if your not expecting anyone .. and if you do open it once his moth opens close it ...
@@hugodrax3431 bail hearings for indictable only charges and committal hearings for either way offences to be charged on indictment
@@rouman7 They have NEVER been able to detect that you where watching BBC, detector vans were a total bullshit.
That door shutting made me laugh.
I'm glad you've posted this. People worry way too much about this.
They keep giving my 88yr old mum agro with letters.
She’s ignored them, we don’t watch any main stream tv.
Cannot wait for them to come knocking this door.
Thanks for the info
@mikesmith1485 she was but they changed it, in any case we will never ever pay it again
I'm not from the UK, TV licenses are not a thing in my country, but I find these videos interesting. What an odd problem to have.
I read yesterday (17 March) that Auntie is lobbying government to ban the use plug in streaming devices such as firestick because they say they're responsible for so many cancelling the license tax. Unbelievable!
The thing with that is, they have a real legitimate reason to exist therfore that won't ever happen 👍
Yeh I have Roku to stream from Internet Netflix etc. Haven't watched terrestrial TV for years!
Burn the BBC down
@@siliquaesid703 LMFAO
What is unbelievable is that jelly Johnson has an 80 seat majority, and could get rid of the TV licence over nite.
Well it's not that unbelievable I guess, being as he's fucking useless.
Everyone should represent themselves in court that would put a massive strain on the judicial system thus prosecutions would be scrapped. Imagine if over 200 people turned up everyday :)
Wishful thinking.
In order to represent yourself you need to comprehend the legal system, if you do comprehend the legal system at all, then you would not even be in court to explain why you don't have a to licence. When your at court your all ready assumed guilty. From 1973 when we joined the EU the law changed, you must prove your innocence, you are not innocent till proven guilty.
Educate yourself to protect yourself.
@@evelghostrider complete bullshit. You are perpetrating lies on the internet, stop it.
@@PastPresented thats good advice, I used the blacks law dictionary combined with educational legal and law programmes. I also learned first hand experience with going to courts. Hence ive represented myself the past twenty years, from basic police stops to police trying to frame me for something I was looking at 25+ years for...
So I think I'm pretty comfortable with my educational background and experience in law and legislation 👍👍👍
But people who watch a few videos and believe they can do as they please get a sharp blow when it does not work for them.
Laws do not work like people think it does. People are too closed minded to accept change and that is their down fall.
Educate yourself and protect yourself, its your own responsibility, no point saying you don't know or understand or to blame others.
Ignorance of the law is not an excuse.
@@samm4265 so you believe, but its sadly not correct my friend.
You need to read and understand how the legal system changed to that of roman law in 1973 when Britain joined EU.
Its all their in writing for people to read and learn. But most can't be bothered and just assume.
In courts you must prove your innocent, break the system down and its easy for you to see. CPS say in court you did crime A. You then prove your innocent of that crime.
Its not random made up stuff ive randomly seen on a RUclips video by some stranger. Its all laid out in black and white from the changes to the whole UK economy and legal system and legislation from 1973. Have you ever looked into it before making a claim im wrong, or do you just assume I am because its a belief you have simple held in your head as being correct my friend ??
TVL Goon: "You've not got a TV license so to check you're not watching live TV I'd like to come in and carry inspection if that's alright."
Me: "Nah but you can look through the window if you like"
TVLG: "The curtains are closed; I can't see anything."
Me: "I know", smiling then shutting the door.
So you deprive yourself of sunlight 24/7 in case a tv licence inspector happens to pop around? Sounds like a great strategy, you're definitely the winner there! Ahem..
I've not had a tv or licence for 15 years. I just tell them and they leave me alone for a few years.
There's nothing worth watching on tv anyway.
Last time I watched TV was Christmas 2019 but only becuse my mum stayed and wanted to watch her soaps.
@@danielfinch362 lol
How would you know that if you haven’t watched it for 15 years? Busted.
@@gweilospur5877 unless TV subdeenly got better since christmas 2019 I can vouch got how crap it is. Not busted.
@Dizzy D It’s only stupid people who think you could speak if you only have half a brain. Most of the people who claim everything on TV is crap are playing brain dead video games.
I got £800 a few years ago because the women at the door told the court she could see my tv from the front door showing something live which it wasn’t it was RUclips, best of it was the hallway was long and it was impossible to see the tv. She stitched me up good and proper and I honestly don’t know how they get away with it
Hate to say it, I'd locate the sleeping address and remove it from her, permanently.
With the numbers of people they thrraten, abuse and mob shake down for money, they'd have no clue as to who or why.
i always look forward to an unsolicited knock at the door. its the perfect opportunity to share my interest and passion in the lord baby jesus.
🤣🤣🤣
That is very kind and forgiving of you. Cold callers are usually shunned by most people (I have done it myself) but you are extremely generous with your time and very gracious to spread the teachings of the Good Lord with these people. If only more of us could be this benevolent. God Bless you.
Cold callers touting for BBC business in my area are banned by the local council
@@Daisy-tl2lh really? which council is thtat?
@@jeffhalbo96 what the hell has that gotta do with a tv licence
I can imagine all the magistrates drunk just like in Oliver Twist because they can't be bothered to deal with such nonsense waste of time cases.
They keep ducking down for a sip of sherry.
@@bigjoeangel hahaha I couldn't agree with you more
I know this is meant as a joke but after some random chats with attorneys: They loathe magistrates because they're their own stuck-up class of people. They only mingle with their own kind. They've got their own pubs / private clubs and yes they are at least tipsy all of the time and addicted to their own flatulence.
These are UK magistrates though, could be nice people elsewhere.
@@hakunkamminga3915 is it true that magistrates judges are "chosen" by peers and communities and arnt necessarily legally professionally qualified but have enough knowledge and a bit of basic training to become a magistrate?!
Thay can not afford a tv licence at 75+..
so you pay less in court for not having a TV licence than the cost of getting a TV licence - assuming they're not going to summons you to court every 8 months or so.
I have never had a tv, or a license. Currently getting about 30 threatening letters a year; must be costing them a fortune in postage etc.
Are they still threatening court summons if you don't pay?
A friend got such a letter a fair few years ago: He responded with a solicitors letter : Cease and decist: Unsolicited demand for money with menace. He didn't have a TV.
Everytime I get a threatening letter I just keep crossing the house address out , writing on the envelope " RETURN TO SENDER" and pop it back in the post LOL
I'm glad there are decent people like you who put confidence in others.
TV is dead in the water today, eclipsing by the internet.
TV, is planned to be internet based in the future
I believe some internet streams from anywhere in the world count as a broadcast and a TV licence is needed (please verify anyone). For info in Germany a TV licence is needed when a broadband connection is used.
Tv is on the internet.
The internet is where I get my vintage TV shows.
The BBC want to try and force people to pay the licence fee for an internet connection too :/
I’m 80 years of age and I’m the householder, I pay the council tax. I don’t watch tv channels that require a licence. My wife watches BBC News and Countryfile sometimes. I elected out of paying a licence fee and continue to get accusations of watching iPlayer which I signed out of. Have a label on my gate, “No Selling!”
Have five TV sets, desktop pc, laptop pc, new and old iPads, Android devices and cellphones, all capable of receiving television. I asked the BBC to stop broadcasting to my television but got no reply.
In 2014 I was visited by TV licencing, I had a TV but used Only for gaming and DVDs, TV was unplugged, I was asked to plug it in and power it up, licensing officer then flicked through channels until he found TV channel then cautioned me, I was summoned to court, I arrived armed with the law on owning a TV and who has to pay for license, CPS argued everyone has to pay as it's law, I disagreed and handed copies of law to magistrates, case was suspended pending investigation, on return to court my case was dismissed, truth is CPS don't know the law on licensing,
Anyone can call TV licensing and withhold permission to access a property,, I've never had a visit since
Same here in Ireland, the licence is €160 and I just refuse to answer the door to them. I get sent reminders every few months but I think they need to nab you face to face to do anything about it. I've gotten away with it for just over 5 years. No way I'm paying our national broadcaster for poor programming and overinflated salaries.
At least you admit you are a scrounger who watches it and doesn’t pay. Most of these liars claim they don’t watch it.
@@gweilospur5877 So what, get a grip, Roger.
You are missing most of the point. Think how the UK and Ireland would be without a national broadcaster (i.e. a mostly reliable mostly independent form of news). We do not want to be like the US.
@@michealocaoinlean6176 Are you serious? or is that sarcasm?
@@michealocaoinlean6176 They are just a small unrepresentative minority of malcontents getting together on the internet to try to convince themselves they are a majority. Most people still like the BBC and know it is a great deal.
They can knock on my door if they want, but they will not be invited in. But even if they did come in they would find no evidence as the arial is blanked off
I have a CRT TV that isn't capable of receiving a signal
@@PieAndChips good old Cathode Ray Tube :)
You can have TV and the aerial too. It's none of their business.
@Neil Allen this is what they say to people, they want to see if the erial is plugged in! So, they don't even now such basic things!
They said if we have a TV set which is plugged in with an aerial, then that's enough for the courts!! They're so stupid!! They were trying push the door really hard to get into my son's flat!!! And doesn't even have a TV set! They said that everyone is watching TV as there's nothing else to do otherwise! They're so thick! My son is a digital systems engineer and he's so busy, he doesn't know how to be bored. I'm so angry with the BBC!! I've received many threatening letters as I don't watch TV either and never will!
Thanks Chilli good advise which i follow (No tv licence) so others do the same.
there is actually a no license required form you can fill in. Hope that helps too.
An elderly neighbour of mine received a licencing inspector visit. She was asked to sign a document just to show he'd visited he said. She's registered blind has very poor eyesight he had to help her sign. She didn't notice he'd ticked the box alongside a statement of admission saying she was watching TV.
She has no TV. She listens to radio and audio books!
If it's BBC radio still pretty sure you need a TV license for that.
@@jcarrandson not when she got scammed by CAPITA Goons she was in her late 70's and exempt by age fro the license fee they were trying to collect. A licence to listen to radio used to be £15 but I'm reasonably sure being registered blind grants an exemption from the £15 radio licence fee!
@@stevew3196 Fair enough, I didn't know that.
How do these people even get caught unless someone is perving through their windows.
Nope, they have no legal path to the type of warrant that will get them information from your ISP or TV provider. I have Sky, I use iPlayer, I watch BBC. I have never had a TV licence, they send letters that go in the bin unopened, they used to get told to fuck off at the door. Now I have a video door bell and most of the time they see it and don`t even bother to press the button. You have nothing to fear from these people they are just salesman.
@Chris Longden if you didnt have a tv licence you wouldnt put your own address in the box surely.
@@stuartchester6899 Sure you do.
@@stuartchester6899 Oh dear... I'm so sorry to hear that you're going to hell.
@@stuartchester6899 You still using an 80s detector van 😂 with the dummy antenna 🤣
CPS don’t prosecute these offences. It’s the tv licensing agency
@Constantin Lungu i was just correcting a factual inaccuracy
@Constantin Lungu i am not been a smart Alec, was just trying to help. Ps enjoy your channel
The tvl give the fabricated evidence to the cps.
@@spudhead1161 why? Cps have nothing to do with these prosecutions
@@stephendavies6209 They actually do.
Very good video Jon - I like the new format - very professional 👍 We’ve not had a license in probably nigh on a decade. I watch you tube only or dvds and haven’t really heard a peep from them,but they’ve gotten in touch with me this year a few times so I’m almost expecting a visit at some point. I’ve got nowt to hide (though I’d be a bit paranoid of being set up as you say they can do) but at the same time I don’t know if I have the wherewithal to open the door to someone and then just shut the door in their face without feeling like a dog.
Thanks for the video though it’s definitely worth it being out there - food for thought for myself and no doubt very helpful for some poor dabs who are having to deal with this in the middle of lockdownitis - warmest wishes from South Wales 🏴 - Jonathan 😊 👍
Has anyone tried calling them up and removing their implied rights of access to your property yet? I did it...it worked...test it
Imagine doing that job day in day out, dealing with TvL cases. It'd drive me nuts lol
The inspectors need there day in court as well as there bosses, for intimidating people, last I heard it was a criminal offence
You heard wrong then. The internet is full of people who "think" they know law with zero study.
Alright Dave, it’s their not there.
@@fishyc150 Intimidation or harassment may constitute a criminal offence under the Protection from Harassment Act 1997 in England & Wales or the Protection from Harassment (Northern Ireland) Order 1997 in Northern Ireland (collectively referred to as 'PHA').
Back to STUDY for you asshole.
Those letters sent to frighten elderly people by the BBC are HATE crimes!
The very fact that capita are paid commission is a scandal in itself as this leads to unscrupulous behaviour from the Sheriff of Nottingham henchman.
In some US neighborhoods these goons would be deathly afraid to even knock on the door.
I'm from the South bronx shytt not happening
Got a letter the other day in red saying to the occupier from tv license guess where it went 🤣
Up their arses
Excellent work, taking the fear factor out of choosing not to have a TV licence.
I love the fact that out of 185 people summoned to court, only about 12% actually appeared. It speaks volumes about how little people take this corrupt 'license' seriously. Hate to say it, but if you are daft enough to let one of those TV License goons into your home in the first place, then you've only got yourself to blame. No entry means no proof. NEVER let them into your home! Better still.......ignore them altogether.
I work as an interpreter and I go to Highbury Magistrates quite often!
@De Factio They really aren't though, not in my experience. Do you think the vast majority of them think their time is well spent dealing with this sort of thing?
Then you will understand that the magistrate court is not under common law , but corperate law ! ..
Therefore not legal........
Wow, you must be busy!
So you're fluent in Polish,Roma,Slovak,Urdu,Arabic and Albanian 👍🏻
@@gameofthrows9357 if I was I would be a millionaire by now.
I have genuinely not watched my TV since the beginning of lock down when I started my loft conversion and took the chimney down and ripped the aerial down, It has been over a year. And even before that I rarely watch it. The TV is just sitting there collecting dust and this is the god honest truth, I only watch Netflix and RUclips on my tablet or phone, my wife watches polish content on her phone, and my daughter same as me watches Netflix and RUclips on her phone and tablet.
Imagine getting a fine for watching the new pc DR WHO, should be other way round and paid ££££ to watch that lol
I still think the Doctor is a MAN !
I don't watch or record live TV but I kinda hope that the TV licensing would try and fabricate a case on me. I'm on the first floor, they have two security doors, a ring doorbell and my best asset is a 35kilo angry dog to get past. And I'm an anti social b*stard anyway.
I read that last sentence with Scottish accent.
Ahahahaha 🤣🤣🤣 no fear of you being taken to court then. 🏴🏴🏴😁
Lol, I'm with you on the whole 'Anti-social thing' In fact, my mask has my favourite Alan Partridge quote:
"I just hate the general public" 😁
@@stuartchester6899 Pray tell webby lad, what are these "electronic methods" you dream of? And do you write your own script? That's comedy gold right there >..
@@stuartchester6899 Still waiting to hear what the electronic methods are, you avoided the question.
Anything you can say can be used in evidence against you. Anything you may say in your defence can be dismissed as hearsay. Shut your mouth, stay safe everyone.
I can't imagine being fined for watching a broadcaster funded by my own taxes. Upside down world.
I think that’s the problem - the tax you are talking about is the license fee. The BBC is not funded from general taxation.
The last time I bought a TV license was in 1994 I cancelled the licence then I have not had a TV license since then I have had enough letters to wallpaper my house I have had three visits in all that time I was not in for two of them and the guy who actually found me in was more interested in the aeroplane engine sat on my kitchen table and wanted to know where he could learn to fly and left without even mentioning the tv license it’s now dec 2021
Sean 😀😀😀👍👍👍
Brilliant channel Chilli Jon, keep up the good fight. I have told my son to watch all your videos as he's just buying his first house as is adament he won't help fund the British Bollocks Center.
Well done, you have one more follower.
Sharing this on Gab and Parler. Many thanks, Jon! 👍
My parents have been paying TV License for more than 3 years yet we never use it! So I cancelled it and they knocked on the door!
If you do it the right way like Jon says you have NOTHING to worry about. Another great vid. Thank you. ☆☆☆☆☆
If you ever get a visit, when asked what’s your name..
1- say nothing close door
2- don’t even open the door
3- I can’t give you my name due to Data Protection
4- film them wind them up then inform him it’s going on You Tube
👍😬😎
A similar, but better way is the following:
1. You answer the door.
2. An arse is standing in front of you.
3. It will have to identify itself.
4. Check the ID.
5. You’ve confirmed you have an arsehole in front of you.
6. Say nothing. Close the door.
Well most will open the door. You don't know its them otherwise
@@booshting3520 this is where video doorbells come in handy. "Ding dong TV licencing"... "Sorry I'm in Ibiza, come back in a couple of weeks", and hang up 😂
@@booshting3520 Before opening the Door.... ASK who is it 🤔🧐🙄
Why would these people watch TV anyway? I don't and I dont keep up with the news. What business is it of mine that so&so got into a fight in some village 100 miles away? Tele robs you of sleep and takes us away from everyday life. Why don't you promote NOT watching TV?
Another great video Jon, I really like that background you use it's well chilled👍
They always try to get your name first, trying to get their name and what they want is like pulling teeth
Great informative video Chilli Jon, very interesting to see what may happen in a court.
After a tvl agent forged a "confession" form for me and took me to court (even after I provided proof it was a pack of lies), they basically said don't care pay or go to court.
The day before my case the lawyer for capita called me and said oh I'm preparing for case tomorrow and just seen your evidence. I'm so sorry this should never have gone forward we are dropping it.
I was just about to ask for that in writing when he said "so you don't have to turn up tomorrow"
Given their behaviour so far alarm bells rang and I said fine... And turned up anyway, with a recording of that call along with all my other evidence.
sure enough they forgot to drop the case.... Until I stood up to say yes the defence IS present, the lawyer shat himself and suddenly remembered to drop the case, I asked to go ahead anyway as I had recorded proof of serious crimes by capita/tvl to be told they dropped the case so sorry you have to bring your own case forward at huge costs.. Basically go forth and procreate....
They are criminal scum who rely on intimidation and threats and a toothless magistrates that's only there to rubber stamp paydays for them and they know even when they utterly screw up they still won't suffer any consequences.
Great advice! Great video! I got a bit of abuse by saying in a previous video that there's no need to go all Freeman Of The Land or Sov Citizen with the goons, and there isn't. All that needs to be done is for people to just shut that door. I don't see the point in arguing with them or telling them it's an Act not a law etc. Just makes them more determined to get something on you, or make something up.
Love the new format.
What's the situation if their "Inspectors" say you have been watching BBC when you haven't? You say the inspector seeing the operational TV is their evidence but what would happen if they said they saw it and you said they are lying? What physical and provable evidence do they collect other than Dave the inspector saying "I saw it"? Is Dave the inspectors word accepted without question in court?
If the inspector does somehow gain entry (maybe someone else in your house lets them in) then film their entire visit. Maybe also film any doorstep encounter you have with them.
Many years ago I moved into a new flat and was given an old TV so I had something to play my xbox on. It was an old set with only 4 channels and needed a little red stick to tune it in. On the day I moved in an inspector called I let him in as had nothing to hide and he could see my stuff was piled up in boxes. I told him the TV was only used to play the games console. He asked if I could switch it on which I did and showed him static on all 4 channels. He said as the TV was working I needed a licence as it could potentially receive TV if I just tuned it in. I was young and believed him assuming as he was an inspector he knew the rules. He asked me to sign a form just confirming his visit which I did as by this point I just wanted him gone. Looking back now I realise the form may have been a blank 'declaration of guilt' form. I think once he had my signature on the bottom he probably fabricated a false story filling out the rest of the form once he was back in his van. I ended up buying a TV licence for 2 years just to play a games console until I became more clued up on the law. The scumbags will tell all sorts of lies to get their commission. My only advice is if they do ever access your home film everything they do, don't sign a thing and don't get into any sort of conversation with them
And was you watching columbo
@@markhoverd4993 that’s exactly what happens mate. I know as I used to work for them and saw 2 of my colleagues and manager fabricate evidence by getting them to sign the form to say we had called. It is a common tactic by them. I bet you weren’t even cautioned. Once they establish who you are and they believe you have used a tv without a licence then they have to read the caution out to you. Very rarely do they do that.
@@markhoverd4993 You were easy meat to him and he stitched you up good and proper. You don't say whether you just agreed to buy a TVL or whether you were prosecuted. Still you live and learn.
Great format 👍. But more importantly, content is informative as ever. Top man
It's not court, it's a little room in the court building with a TV licence representative, been there 3 times 🤣😂
The worst thing about this TV licensing is that it preys on law abiding citizens rather than actual criminals.
The fact that the UK is still prioritising this rather than targeting actual crime speaks volumes about the government.
Thank you for this, I've cancelled my license recently, I've convinced others too to. This has helped a lot
I am amazed that the UK still has TV licenses. We had them here in Australia when TV was introduced in 1956 but licenses were finally abandoned in 1974 after a couple of years of mass refusal to pay. If an inspector came to the door, he (was always a male) was simply and politely told to "bugger off". The magistrates courts were swamped, internal administration costs spiraled and that was the end of it.
Yes!!! ... BBC doesn't want to be funded by grants and annual appropriations (like the rest of the world does) because they think their impartiality will be called for question (but they are now being funded by the government in the form of tax). It's just ridiculous. Utterly ridiculous!!
Yes I know however it's like everything else, you know you could have a rifle for sports, hobby, hunting, that freedom vanished like smoke remember, regarding the TV permit well don't watch its woke propaganda anyway, give it up on mass, they'll soon get the message, used to love Australian, years old before it went woke!...
Wow how spineless us British people must be !
Where's is the magistrate with the balls to set the fine at 2 pence.
Thank you for this video, Chilli. You've answered much sought-out questions. I'm sharing it because it will help a lot of people 👍🏻
Look at all the fines and how different they are. Each did the same offence but some paid less and some paid more, ridiculous unfair justice.
Capita also get information from some utility meter firms who cooperate with meter readers when they are in your property reading your utility meters and providing information to TV licensing
Balls
I read my Own meters! Sorted 👍🏻
Well they can't catch me or my dad watching TV... we have no plugs on the aerials so they can't be plugged in and my dad is blind so he can't watch anything anyway :D
garbage
There are some people who are scared to cancel their licence and yet they don't watch TV. Thanks Jon for all of your videos. I cancelled mine last year having not watched TV in the proceeding 3 months and I really do not miss it. PS I really don't like that Mr Funt, he is a smarmy ****.
Yeah I was one of those mugs until two days ago. I'm too busy playing games and my TV hasn't been on in two years.
I don't know how things work in England - but in Scotland there needs to be a 2nd witness to enable any prosecution ( 2 Police officers not just 1) - otherwise it's just a he said/she said. Even if you were daft enough to admit to a lone officer that you were watching live tv without a license - in Scotland at least - there would need to be a 2nd witness to this to comply with the burdon of proof requirement.
Maybe that's why TVL don't quote a "conviction success rate" in Scotland!
Not so much theses days. Not when most cops wear cameras. It's a good law though. However SNP want it scrapped much to the objections of the highest law people in Scotland. But when did SNP ever listen to anyone.. vile party
My 94 year old father lives in a care home that has twice sent in the forms for him and other residents to get a ARC licence, but when I contacted TV licence office they say they have not received anything from them, I believe they are doing this on purpose because they want his £149 and not the ARC price of £7.50, also the arc process is made far to complicated to set up, and when I first contacted my dad's care home they had no knowledge of the ARC licence, why are the TV licence people not telling care homes that they may be able to get this licence, but I think we all know why. £££££.
As a film student I understand why the license exists in the u.k, I also understand that its a compettive market and I will pay £6 a month for amazon prime where I get actual good shows.
Another way of looking at it, is the BBC get an unfair advantage in that competitive market. Maybe if the licence was scrapped, they would be gone in a week.
But....og god, The Boys on prime! Get where you are coming from.
Good luck with the film studies 😉
No point what so ever in a TV licence.
Once again 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 thank you for your help and guidance I am legal I don’t watch tv at all from when I cancelled, 🙏to you. Bless you for being helpful👍🏻
thank you, not getting in my door
Some people from tv licencing don't tell you they're from tv licencing to catch you out! had a bloke in a suit from tv licence stop me as I was coming in from work saying he'd come to fix the speakers on my TV (1st red flag who wears a suit to fix a tv )My reply was i don't have a tv so why would I need the speakers fixed, he insisted I had called and made an appointment for the speakers to be fixed, showed me a note pad with my name and address, when I asked him what was the phone number left, he said you wouldn't leave a phone number (2nd red flag),who makes an appointment without leaving a contact number. The bloke pissd me off so much going on about the tv that it ended up with my neighbours coming out of their homes from me shouting and swearing at him, I told him he was on cctv pointing to a camera, and to get off my property and if he or any of his friends came back I'd have them arrested. 2 days later i received a tv license exemption certificate. I wouldn't recommend an altercation such as mine, just keep an eye out for the weirdos, who turn up saying that they've come to do something, if I'd said there's nothing wrong with my tv instead of i don't have a tv then I'd have been caught out.
Never seen a tv licence exemption certificate.
In Canada; the TV & radio licences were abolished in 1953.
When I was a student, TV license sent about 5 letters every year threatening to prosecute us tenants, while we didn't use BBC at all, and didn't even have a TV at one point.
In my country this is attempted telecom scamming.
Interesting. Nice to know. I wont end up in court. No live tv at my house. Cut all cable and removed them. Plus they will never get in house anyway 🤣
Hello, why did you destroy your own property in your own house by cutting cables? Just don't engage with them when they call. An idea, send the bill for cutting the cables to the bbc. Just bombard them with letters.
@@christopherckarkson5605 i very rarely watch tv and when i do i watch demand. The cables looked messy so one day i just cut them. Havent used them in years. I like the idea of sending bbc invoice for the work. 🤣
I don't understand how anyone can get caught. You don't even need to let the goons in.
I used to think that until I realised some people are thick as fuxk , so thick they admit to anything because of TV and media manipulation. Probably all vaccinated too 🤔😎
Because people are uneducated. My dear father thought you need one for my car radio, they ebloished that in the 70s I believe. I always say to people who talk to them, Rip down Eric statue and I’ll pay. They are clueless.
@@cad6095 actually the license used to cover radio as well
@@cad6095 ignore my comment I didn’t read all of yours. Lol.
Many years ago I'm talking early 70s my ex father in law had a goon turn up he didn't let him in and went to court the goon said he looked through the window and the bbc was on the TV my father in law said " did you have a ladder "? Goon replied " why would I?" My in law I live in a 3rd floor masonette " case chucked out 🤣
The fact that we’re presumed guilty and threatened for having a TV without a licence like some peasant of the Soviet Union is wild to me. You don’t need a licence to own a TV. I can only imagine that those in court were caught with evidence of live tv consumption
First error is engaging with the revenue collection centre/magistrate court/kangaroo court. Don’t recognize them... no business, no contract , no obligation. Most importantly Throw the television in a skip or bin !
Elaborate please...
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Don't know why anyone would watch the BBC - it's poison. Cancelled mine ages ago.
The BBC is nothing but a corrupt left wing tool (Tool in the sense of Labour Middle class) it does not project the true working class of the UK, why should we pay for something that is forced upon our reception of TV? It's nothing but a Marxist con!!!
Production Quality growing exponentially👍
By Christmas you'll be directing your very own theatre production. You could even hire some Goons for the play.
Thanks for noticing. Wanted to try a new format in the hope of creating more professional looking stuff for you all to watch.
@@ChilliJonCarne yea t he production value has gone up. I love this channel, and I really hope that as the production value of the videos has gone up that you don’t follow the ridiculous fad of putting extraneous noises in the videos. You know what I’m saying; popping noises, whooshing noises, etc, whenever a graphic is displayed on the screen. It’s a ridiculous fad that more and more RUclips videos are following, usually because the content is poor and they feel like they need to be more fashionable. You don’t need such gimmicks.
Dont worry. I'm a grown up. My little stock videos is a crazy as I plan on going
@@ChilliJonCarne thanks, you restore my faith in humanity
What about the criminal record they walk out of the court with? This is the day their cards are marked, many for their first time.
This is the big issue which so far has been swept under the carpet and many are totally unaware they now have a record.
You dont get a criminal record. You would only get one if you didnt pay the fine
ChilliJonCarne I have checked and yes you do get a criminal record for not having a tv licence if convicted in court. Normally this doesn't appear on a standard CRB check but it will appear on an enhanced CRB check when applying for certain positions such as security, legal work and working with children etc. Non payment of court fines is a separate issue usually dealt with debt recovery processes.
I believe that one day common sense will prevail which may see these criminal conviction records, some dating back more than 70 years finally annulled. Let's hope this finally does happen.
@@ChilliJonCarne If it is a Criminal offence, guilty conviction gives the person a CRO number same as any other offence, such as theft from shop or burglary.
Easy way to keep the crime clear up figures high, then!
@De Factio It is criminal.
I cancelled ours years ago, based on the terms and conditions, I think it was clause 4, "by purchasing a TV licence you agree to let our officers visit your property to inspect your equipment" or words to that effect, then in the small print "however you don't have to let them in"????? funny thing is i went to renew it and instead purchased the "daily mail"which had a bold headline "Exposed BBC TV Licence bullies, it wasn't till that day i had ever really looked at my expensive bit of paper worth naff all. the BBC should be a subscription service and the TV licence scrapped, "free view" and "free sat" in my opinion is also miss leading to many people.
Biggest miscarriage of justice is being tried by volunteers with not one legal qualification between them, (With the exception of a District Judge who generally has 12 years or more in the legal profession). Welcome to UK magistrates courts.
Cancel your licence guys get streaming sticks and if you want to watch live TV like ITV just close your curtains to watch love island live :)
Keep up the great work 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Never never talk to tv licence people! Shut the front door 🚪🤦♀️
They'll push very hard on the door, so be prepared!! They insist to look for a TV set, but you allowed to have a TV set and watch everything else apart from the BBC. Don't be afraid of them!!
Yeah but they only come back☹️
@@ianholmes3761 write to your local MP! This is happening to thousands of people! Some people are scared to go to their front garden because of them.
I'm so sorry for you.
@@E-Kat They can't force entry though its illegal.
@@glennoc8585 yes, but often they'll say they have the same right as the bailliefs and once they have their foot on your property, they have a right to enter. Older people get scared and let them in. They use all sorts of scare tactics, preventing people from leaving their houses.
Thousands of people take them to court every year, BBC knows about it and nothing is happening!!
And it's all because we don't want to watch BBC!
Just don’t answer the door end of
If you feel caught out don’t let them in anyway.
Best advice ever
I would be more worried about my Mrs finding out that i was watching something that i shouldn't have been watching that the courts
Would like to see a video like this where they go not guilty and the process from there
I have a good story for that, just need the guy's permission to make a video on it.
@@ChilliJonCarne 🤞🤞 as it would help but a lot of us out that won’t just admit guilt , thank you for your amazing work buddy
@@ChilliJonCarne Looking forward to it.
How can you be caught? They are not allowed to look through your windows, there is no such thing as detection. The only way is for you to say "yes I am breaking the law" but why would you say this to a salesperson working for a private company with no authority and on commission.
@@PastPresented they would need explicit photographic evidence to prove they saw your screen showing something that they could prove was live tv and not a dvd for example...no matter, never ever answer the door unless its an expected caller
about 10 years ago when we didnt have a tv licence, had a summons court to appear in court, the judge gave my dad 14 days in prison
you cant go to prison for non payment of the licence, it must have been for non payment of the fine
If I see anyone at the door I don't recognise or not expecting I simply don't answer my door and pretend I'm not at home
I've actually begged the inspectors to come to my house, but they won't because of what happened last time they did it. I'm red flagged I'm sure. No TV's at all, no Arial, no dish, nothing!! Followed by me standing in front of my door and refusing to let them out, until they'd been subjected to a 10 minute anti-TV, anti BBC rant. They were terrified. They were begging to leave, and I wouldn't let them. That was 12 years ago.
😂😂😂I'd do the same well done👍
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on my front and rear doors of my house are notices which read:-
THIS DOOR WILL NOT
BE OPENED TO ANY PERSON
WITHOUT A POSTAL
APPOINTMENT
(addresss)
Thanks for the advice. Sick of the letters . Now fully ready if i get a visit. Thanks
I haven’t paid for a tv licence for 6 years now.
TV licencing seem to be preying on the most vulnerable in society.
Plus, what a waste of Magistrates Court time on TV licences - no wonder there's a backlog of proper cases.
Magistrates courts have an allowance of cases for organisations that use their service. So TV licencing probably have 80 slots to fill on any given day. The Court will only lower the case allocation if that organisation doesn't fill it's quota.
To avoid going to court, return all the letters with your name on it back. "The occupier" can't be summoned to court!
It's a lot easier than that. If you watch the video all you need to do is ignore them
You don't really want to be giving them your name though 😉
there are lots of people in the uk called the occupier. they have a very big family
it does seem totally stupid since they know your name if you had a licence with them and cancelled it like i have just done.
the letter saying your house is licence free comes with your name on it
But if you've already been paying for a licence and you do not renew because you don't watch live tv anymore they still do have your name ,such as pensioners who have not renewed.
@@rolandrimann8788 they know the name of the person who was last at that address.
they then have doubt that, that person has moved ?. so that's may be why they use the occupier.