Well, they did kinda expose themselves to threats with how rapidly they de-militarized. For the Old Republic it worked (kinda), but that was because the Jedi were a strong order then and could serve as peacekeepers. Luke, as powerful as he is, is but one man.
I I didn't get into the new jedi order much, but read most of the novels (even splinter of the mind's eye! ) prior. Luke definitely distanced himself from governments because that was where the Republican era Jedi made their mistake. They believed they could help more people by working on the wider scale, but this led to their strange distanced approach to the Code to allow them to forget that people were a connected motive to expressing the light side. Anyway, if anybody's still tagging along, I'd dearly love to see the X-wing rogue Squadron series. The first seven books, they got a bit disjointed in the last couple. Then the corran horne exteded arc, then...
Yes I think that's a good thing though the new Jedi Order Luke's Jedi Order I think will be separate from the Republic and I think that's a good thing but that's just my opinion
Unlike Leia, Luke did not seem comfortable with politics and having grown up in Tattoine, he may also not feel comfortable in a place like Coruscant. Mandalorian and Ahsoka also show just how much of the Imperials retained their position and power. As some people have pointed out, he may also sense that if the wrong people found out he was Anakin's son it would be worse for him, best to stay back from power. Also, it is not just Luke - he is the most feared because he is the most powerful, but people like Carson Teva, Hera and obviously Ahsoka are also looked upon with suspicion
If anyone in the new republic knew that Luke is the son of Darth Vader, then I could see why they would distrust him completely. After the way they've casted out Leia upon learning that she was Vader's daughter, the new republic would do everything in their power to disassociate themselves from Luke and his Jedi academy.
The Differences between legends and Canon is that in Legends Luke and Leia's Ancestry was Common Knowledge, All of Vader's Action were put on Palpatine controlling him. Once Luke freed his Father from Palpatine's control he turned on the Emperor killing them both. The Galaxy knew Anakin was a Hero of the Clone Wars so it was easy to convince people that this was what happened. Disney Canon chose to Hide Luke and Leia's Ancestry thereby causing huge Scandal when it was made public.
True but I think Luke gets a little more leeway, I mean he destroyed the first death star, and as far as the empire knows he came out of the same room as vader and the emperor plus he fought so many battles. Not that Leia didn't but Luke had more of a reputation as a war hero than Leia. Plus Luke stayed out of politics which is the main reason why that information destroyed Leias career
Legends-Continuity Luke had almost godlike force powers that made even his own order nervous. Powers he had no problem openly displaying whenever it was deemed necessary so some of what happened to him was arguably self-induced. If you haven't read Legends material, basically all the powers that Ezra Bridger, Ahsoka Tano, and Anakin's Force Ghost have thus far displayed were at one point or another used by Legends-Continuity Luke Skywalker
Such astute world building. ... I mean, with the Rebels being an overwhelming underdog it makes perfect sense that they wouldn't be prepared or even good at running the entire galaxy. All of which fits perfectly
And the fact that they were the Alliance *to Restore the Republic* put them on the wrong track from the start. The Republic didn't deserve to be restored, it needed to be replaced. When you get right down to it, the Separatists were right.
@@RedXlV I hear ya, but I don't know if the separatists were totally right. ... Do believe more self awareness was needed during the transition into the New Republic. ... There should have been a realization that patience was needed to do things properly. Planning, mass elections, training, etc Instead there was shortsightedness & arrogance leading to politician types & others that are business savvy taking total advantage of the given situation because that's what they always do & ultimately - It was all allowed to go down.
I think Luke Skywalker wanted to stay out of politics and focus on rebuilding the Jedi Order. I think he will be called by his sister to aid Ahsoka in the future. He will do that. But not bother with the New Republic at all. Great video ❤
Its pretty pathetic that the Republic would basically just revert back to what it was, a bloated, corrupt and inept system that learned nothing from the past decades (Not that its totally their fault). Though I do wonder what prequel era jedi would think of Legends Luke's new jedi order. I like to think some of them would approve. I also think that if Dooku ever found redemption and somehow lived to see it, he'd probably be one of Luke's greatest supporters since Luke would be trying to do what Jedi should be doing instead of reducing themselves to political enforcers. Luke did the right thing remaking the Jedi Order like he did.
It's actually more realistic that way. In Hollywood, the bad guys are overthrown and thr good guys take over and everyone lives happily ever after. But in reality, it isn't like that at all. You should read _The Dictator's Handbook_ or check out CGP Gray's _The Rules for Rulers_ if you want to understand why the new guys almost always look an awful lot like the old guys. It also makes you think twice about replacing the government. Structures and patterns of power cannot always be ignored for "the greater good."
My guess is that the senators, especially the ones who did not fight in the GCW, are jealous and resentful towards the *military* heroes of the old Rebel Alliance. Just look at how much free time they seem to have to harass Hera, but not to investigate the Imperial conspiracy she helped uncover. These heroes are a problem for the politicians who want to be seen by the public as the ones building the NR. That's before you even factor in the ones who are secretly pro-Imperial and don't actually want the NR to remain strong enough to hold back the Remnant (or the hidden, at this point, First Order).
Its simply Luke and the Jedi not wanting to be tangled up in New Republic politics. He worked with the New Republic a lot, and had many allies within it, but a select few did push him away.
As much as I love that episode of Mandalorian, I'm confounded by the fact that they didn't know who he was: "Are you a Jedi?" If I was Luke I'd say "Uh yeah, I blew up the Death Star, twice, defeated the Emperor AND Darth Vader----and you guys haven't heard of me?"
Din did not know who he was. I am pretty sure the others knew (Bo certainly did, though she might not know his face) and were more astounded that Grogu had been able to summon him. Of course Giden knew Luke, and seemed terrified of him
I don’t think Luke as a Jedi should care about prestige and glory. The Battle Of Endor went down in history as the battle where the Alliance fleet blew up the Death Star with the Emperor and Vader inside. Luke’s story there was a side detail, a detail he necessarily wasn’t willing to share with the public (considering the reputation damage a relation like that could cause his credibility or Leia’s political career). And even if he did come out and say ”oh yeah, I beat and killed both Vader and Palpatine” to hide the truth he would come across as pompous - very uncharacteristic of the now humble in-tune with the force jedi master Luke. It was a secret for him and his sister to share. I don’t think Star Wars fans really think these things through; ”oh yeah, Luke was a hero to us. He should be the hero to the entire galaxy!” when it is just not true. Return of the Jedi underlines this with Vader’s burial and Luke’s sorrow being at a separate isolated location. And TLJ even tries to destruct this meta-myth of the ”great Luke Skywalker”.
If they actualy show this, it could explain why Luke just left in the end. It would make "the last Jedi" a way more logical movie, if he left because they forced him to, kinda send him away, telling him he would not be welcome. I would love to see Lukes story evolve maybe in the realm between realms, after his death. His thing is hope. I think he found it again in the end. Would love to see him more in shows and stuff. Maybe explain why he became so deppresed and hopeless and how he found his hope again.
One thing that star wars needs to stop doing is killing all the Jedi and than realising oh we need more Jedi. I understand the original situation was star wars was only planned to be 3 movies so they just didn't have more Jedi. So they kinda had to create order 66. But why have Kylo Ren kill all the padawans and than Luke just leave behind everything. 1000s of years of Jedi history gone because a not even fully trained kid somehow killed everyone. Leaving behind any dislike of the depressed Luke character what future stories is their to tell. They pretty much killed everyone except Ray. They would either have to go far back or forward in time or a different galaxy. Their is nothing interesting left, which sucks because the end of episode 6 had so many possibilities. I think the biggest tragedy with the sequels is not that they were bad movies but that they destroyed the ability to tell interesting stories going into the future. Regardless of the movie being good or bad with a series with so much scope as star wars you always have to be aware of how your story will affect future stories. Maybe they can have Jedi trained by Ahsoka in another galaxy come back but at that point just make stories in the new galaxy instead.
There’s not much that could be done to make the sequels logical, especially if you look at what it did with Luke. The one that got Darth Vader back to the light, got tortured and still wouldn’t join the Emperor. That Luke would never be the Luke we got to see in the last Jedi. He’s personality just doesn’t match. Sure a personality can change but not fundamentally like this.
It was said that Luke was a very powerful Jedi. Could the New Republic, and the remnants of the Empire be jealous of him as well as afraid? If they knew what happened to Anakin, I think they would go ballistic.
@@tommychappell6359 Because he became more powerful as a celestial being. Not that many people can defeat him, therefore he is more of a threat than Luke.
9:15 so in my book most of them don’t like Luke because they can’t control him, they can’t put him in a neat little box with a tag on it to be filed away and they hate that idea.
During the Yuuzhan Vong war, the new republic scapegoated the new jedi order for the invasion and even posted warrants for Luke’s arrest. When politics come into play, He knew his order would be in danger. He saw what happened to the old order when they were hampered by the old republic. If the old order had more freedom and independence, they would have caught palpatine.
Depends on the context amd which version. In legends they blamed the jedi directly for the emperor because they didnt know the difference between the sith and the jedi. And jealousy was a thing. Further the new republic consider them their own government body that remained an outside threat. In canon they also blamed the jedi for the Empire. They believed false pretense set forth by palpatine and later the fact that Luke as a member of the rebellion when it came to light hos father was vader was a slap in the face. They also resented that Luke actively sought to not follow the path of the Jedi prior to him where they became essentially a branch of the government- the jedi were jedi only- this however had drawback as it would prevent jedi from performing their duty as jedi- so jedi became nothing more really than monks preserving jedi teaching and nothing more, eventually being a redundant existence.
I really hope they re-cast Luke for his role in the Thrawn conflict to come. The de-aging cgi tech is getting better, but with Anakin we have a 42 y/o, relatively young still Hayden. With Luke we have a 70+ Mark Hamill. Get a new actor and the sky is the limit for storytelling. It can be done.
@nezarecdiscipleofthewitnes3823 messing up a sequel has far more impact on a story than messing up a prequel. A sequel can ruin future storytelling. A prequel can be bad but it tends to just be forgotten or disregarded it if it isn't liked. The sequels locked in a lot of things which inhibit future story telling. Them also having all the jedi be dead and a myth doesn't help. You have to do so much to just make a jedi character exist. Than it's about where they were with the first order so many things cause issues for storytelling. I think just go to a new galaxy and give up on the previous one. Unless you want to make a prequel that's 1000s of years in the past or future.
Super unrelated but I just realized we are the only ones as viewers that saw what happened when Vader and palpatine when Luke showed up, and from everyone’s perspective Luke walked into there handcuffed with the two and he was the only one who walked out of there free, that’s just badass
@@originalSiiiN lose it good lol, it would be the encouragement Luke would need, knowing that he brought his father back to the Light and now he’s here to coach his son
A between worlds meeting between Luke and new godlike Anakin would be amazing to see. What would they talk about? The time they had missed, what could have been? Probably some cryptic force conversation steeped in Jedi dogma to entice the true Star Wars deep dive fan’s. Well that’s what I hope happens!
If I remember correctly, the biggest problem with the New Republic in Legends is the severe lack of manpower. They were stretched way too thin, trying to do what they could around the galaxy.
And this is why the new republic actually needs luthan from Andor (it’s a shame that odds are by the time of Ashoka he is probably dead) as the best way to counter Imperial sympathisers is with good people that believe in the republic but are willing to do whatever it takes to defend it, I mean accidents happen and suddenly a senator gets sucked out and airlock it’s very tragic😈 It’s actually one of the ideas I liked in Star Trek when they showed section 31 in DS9, they make it clear that they are the bad guys but you have to ask are they? I know I’ve said you should always be scared of people that say “”for the greater good”” and bloody terrified of the ones that truly mean it but that’s all S31 was doing , removing any threats to the federation internal or external, and looking at the new republic it could really do with its own section 31 as it needs all the help it can get.
I fear part of the reason the NR has such problems is because Luthen and his spies may all have died during the last war against the empire, just like Andor
The New Republic became Yuuzhan Vong appeasers.....and Admiral Daala becoming Chief of State of the Galactic Alliance in an authoritarian power move against the Jedi, using Jacen Solo's fall to the dark side as an excuse. Kenth Hamner was a tool. I wonder who Ben Skywalker eventually ended up with to have Kol and Cade Skywalker as descendants.
@@oddmanout8692 She makes a point in Darksaber wondering why capable women rising to positions of command are considered to have slept with men to get there.
Check out the old EU, otherwise known as "Legends" nowadays. The majority of those books were approved to be published by George. Of course, he mostly just read the blurbs, and probably checked out a chapter or two, maybe three... But they still had to have his approval. Overall, Luke had ridiculous levels of Force Power, and it was both a relief, and utterly terrifying, to the New Republic. Mostly because they feared he might turn against them, and they resented the fact that they had little recourse on how to deal with him. He would help them, but it often, to the leaders, felt like he'd do so on a whim. They didn't understand that he wanted to keep The Jedi Order and The New Republic as separate entities. This comes from the idea of Church & State being separate, considering the Jedi Order is akin to a religion.
@@MrJinglejanglejingle I know that George Lucas' plan was for Chief-Of-State Mon Mothma to have to strike a delicate truce with some of the crime syndicates of The Outer Rim, so as to keep the beginnings of The New Republic viable. Leia was also supposed to be a Senator and a Force-user, while a Wife and Mother to her children with Han Solo. Apparently, for Lucas, Luke would never marry or have children, since his main focus was on creating a New Jedi Order. It seems, Favreau and Filoni are following some of George's concepts and world-building for The SWU after ROTJ; hence, The Remnant Empire, The Pirate Nation, Boba Fett's gotra, and the growing criminal organizations within the galaxy (which will be centerstage in the video game, SW: Outlaws). I'm just wondering if Lucas' intention was for The Jedi to NOT be directly connected to The New Republic's government body, in contrast to The Galactic Republic of 1000 years? Now, the whole pocket universe of The Mandalorian Saga is going to add even more to this drama and intrigue, now that The Pathway To Peridea/The New Beyond is about to shake The SWU like never before...
Honestly it's a good thing in both canon and legends that Luke distanced himself away from galactic politics, now while the Imperial remnants being petty sound bad and is most assuredly a bad thing, Luke is also aware that the biggest fault the Clone Wars era Jedi faced were the fact they became too politically involved in the galaxy and was forced to fight in the Clone Wars, not volunteered to as his new Jedi academy did in the Vong war.
I just want the Vong to follow AT and Thrawn back and a new threat emerges once the First Order falls. (If they are planning a post FO fall storytelling) Rey training Jedi to fight them Imperial joining with Resistance to fight them Maybe throw fricking new Sith duo also having to ally to kill ‘em
The conflict between Jedi and Sith have caused destruction and death for eons for everyone not Force users. It's a sick twisted cycle. I think Baylon knows this and isn't a Sith because he doesn't want this cycle to continue, but knows that Jedi take a "police officer" approach to keeping the peace and Baylon wants to slice the darker middle ground and stamp out resistance to what he feels is a better bath Thrawn might bring.
Thank you for talking about Legends. Unfortunately, Disney hates us, so Hera takes the padded-up place of Luke & isnt just a new character which despite the "theyre misogynist!" propaganda from Disney, no one would mind. We (at least I) love Twi'lek characters, Ahsoka is canon in my Star Wars timeline, & I dont even consider the final products of any movie besides 4 & 5 as canon, so.
This would be a better logical explanation for why Luke went into exile than just simply because of Ben. If in addition to the incident with Ben, Luke was also dealing with this from the New Republic and with his new Jedi Order burned down decided to do what the New Republic wished and simply get lost.
It’s so disappointing knowing that whatever Luke builds in the Disney cannon is doomed to die in order for the Sequel Trilogy to happen. It’s kinda like watching The Clone Wars knowing Anakin, the Jedi, the Republic, the clones, Dooku, the Separatists, and basically everyone except Palpatine would lose in the end, but at least in that case, we knew the heroes and stories that would rise once the fall happened so you could feel slightly better about it. I don’t have that same sentiment with the Sequels.
I think we should also remember that mon mothma was also skeptical of the jedi. She was the only one in the old republic delegation who didn't have a personal relationship with the jedi. In rogue one she asks bail organa if it is right to seek out ben kenobi. I think if bail organa was still alive and became the new republic chancellor, doubt about the jedi would've been better mitigated.
I understand why Luke hates New Republic. He gave them freedom,peace. He knows he's not welcome. So he left New Republic. He protects his Jedi Order too. Jedi don't listen to New Republic. Which is the right way. It always was. Luke could meet Anakin. They need him against Thrawn. Luke didn't want to fall in a trap like old Jedi. May the Force be with you too😊
During the Kotor and Swtor times it was probably fine for the Jedi to be so connected to the Republic since there was a powerful enemy trying to kick the door down. Though the Jedi were still their own organization back then. Since then they allowed themselves to become the lackeys of the Senate instead of their own organization. Can't blame Luke for wanting to avoid that same mistake. I also find it a little amusing/annoying that the galaxy just forgot what happened the last time the Jedi Order was nearly wiped out.
The Jedi Order were instrumental in allowing Darh Sidious’ rise to ultimate power. And his right-hand man was Anakin Skywalker, the venerated “Chosen One”, supposedly encapsulating the best of what a Jedi was meant to be. And look at how that all played out. Honestly, how can we fault the New Republic for not trusting Luke? The son Darth Vader and now the most powerful Jedi alive. Hero of the war or not, no one in their right mind would or should trust him farther than they can throw him. We have the benefit and luxury of knowing Luke’s true self. We know he’s pure of heart and mind. But the people of that galaxy don’t. They’ve seen this exact same song and dance before. I think it’s good story writing to make this rift between them. It makes sense. Given the history at play, they’d be reckless beyond reason to trust him at all. Ever.
It is possibly both not wanting to repeat the mistakes of the past by a line the Jedi with the New Republic and possibly anti-jedi sentiment in the New Republic
It might be an unpopular opinion, but I would like it if they recast Luke, Leia, and Han so that we can get new stories with those characters in the new republic era.
@@whathappenswhenimbored they already did it. Tarking and Leia in Rogue One, when tech was not as good as today. And of course Luke in Mando S2 and BOB EDIT: S2
i grew up with Star Wars and the original movies. Leia was my first crush. i have a hard time even watching anything with Carrie Fisher in it, or even Rogue One. i dont know how i would feel if they re-cast her. not a fan or a hater of cgi but, this role seems like the perfect fit for cgi
Unfortunately nah, it isn't there yet. The process of making something like that is a complete nightmare and would likely be too difficult to implement for a show or even for a main character in a movie.@@sommojames
It would have been interesting if Disney made a Jedi Academy movie set after ROTJ, with 25 year old Luke recruiting teenage force-users as his first Jedi apprentices. I could imagine Finn Wolfhard, Jaden Smith and Jenny Ortega playing the younger Jedi
The original Death Star had like a million crew. Luke was absolutely seen as a terrorist by the Imps. Some of the Imperials would have just been serving in their planets regiment. 20 years of Imperial rule made folks secure. 20 years makes things "normal". some serving had no political preferences, they were just in the military. The dustruction of the Death Star would swayed their beliefs one way or the other. some of those serving absolutely continued their service into the New Republic change over, secretly hating Luke in particular
if i remember correctly the bothen senator would always try to make it dificult for luke and anyone assosiated with the jedi including lea. i think they was also the cancelor at the start of the vong invasion (if i remember correctly) and even then they tryed their best to completly undermine the jedi untill they was killed during the vongs invasion of coresount.
With what has been shown thus far, those theories of what we can possibly see now holds alot of weight. Some of my friends have unfortunately already given up. But I can see the bigger picture of this. And also my own theory is that what we have seen from Madalorian, Boba Fett, and Ahsoka is that it could lead to the battle of Jakku. I could be wrong, but since we know little of that battle, it is possible that it could be the end game of all of this
Its worth remembering that the Old Republic, Empire, and New Republic were run by 99% the same people. The Empire only lasted like, 23 years. And the Senate wasn't fully dissolved until A New Hope. That basically means that if, say, US Senator Mitch McConnell for instance were elected to the Galactic Senate the same year it was reorganized into the Empire, he likely would still hold his same seat when the New Republic was formed. With just a brief gap in his career during the events of the Original Trilogy. And that's not even to get into local politics. So of course the New Republic was corrupt and unstable. The Old Republic was corrupt and unstable, the Empire was corrupt and unstable, and all three of those governments were run by all the same people, give or take Sheev Palpatine.
I agree with Luke and his order staying out of politics it is what got the old order in trouble in the first place. The new republic seems to be their own worse enemy in many respects
It's a shame that we won't get a series where Luke recruits n trains new potential Jedi. Mostly from Legends. Because I'm sure it would've made an awesome series. But the chance for that passed decades ago. But one a side note. Nice video.
Well, the Jedi never should've been under the rule of the Senate regardless. But hey, if they don't like how they can't control the Jedi then, fine, let the Sith handle the Republic instead. 😅
One can contend the one of the failures of the Old Republic was its over reliance on "Warrior Monks with laser swords" So who can blame those in the Senate for not wanting to repeat that mistake?
The Republic isn't any different from every other Republic, it isn't any different from the old republic. Hell it isn't any different from real world republics.
They are corrupt and really pissed because he wouldn’t be their puppet I don’t blame Luke at all he understands things at a much deeper level he is focusing his time on being a Jedi and keeping that New Jedi order separate from the politics of the republic. He stays out of shit if he can help it but he knows that he can’t work out in the open he has to do things discreetly he does things from the background fixing shit without acknowledgement cuz it’s right the Jedi have to work behind the scenes not everyone likes the idea of not having strong combatants on their side and Luke is like nah we don’t play puppetry here he won’t be a puppet and that’s what they want. He’s not about to let the new order suffer the same way the old order did
Rumors say Ahsoka S2 will be about the night sisters, and they will destroy the force so only women can use the force and evil men can use it too but only if you are evil (The Force Is Female)... If Episode 7+8+9 did not destroy Star Wars then this will be the last nail in the coffin of Star Wars.
"It wouldnt make sense for luke not to be involved in something this huge" The problem with your logic is that the disney execs are actively trying to replace the original characters, Ahsoka for example is MEANT to BE Luke skywalker, hence why SHE is the jedi training others and gallavanting across the galaxy saving it while Luke sets up for what is already known to be a failure. I doubt we'll see much of Luke. It's why Legends really is the real canon, the current canon..is kinda garbage.
I think Luke wants to stay away from politics as this was a large part as to why Yoda's Jedi Order fell. Also, as there is little knowledge of the Force and Jedi Order, Luke wants to focus on what he can find and re-create the Jedi Order. He wants to serve the Force, not be a servant of the New Republic. Servant or slave! Still, things are going to change now that Ezra has returned as he was at the start of the Alliance. He will likely help the New Republic, and many know Ezra vanished with Thrawn and Ezra's return could be all the proof Hera needs to flush out disloyalty or to unite the New Republic. At the same time if Ezra fights with the New Republic they could use it to make Luke join the fight against Thrawn or banish him if he refuses!
The new republic should make the jedi luke, ahsoka special constables as law enforcement. They work with new republic special forces units and commandos to take out difficult enemies such as baylon skoll, thrawn etc. Don't bring back the jedi order but make them enhanced agents working for the military..
i bet luke realised sense the jedi made a oath to the republic then the jedi basically couldnt fulfil their purpose of u know following the teachings of the force. So luke probably was like look i will be over here doing my thing u do ur thing just dont fuck it up otherwise i might get involved.
Instead of trying to retcon The Last Jedi, we can have an entire series of Luke's adventures and misadventures leading him up to being the disillusioned hermit. Legends and the "Mandoverse" Are already showing the New Republic as being so corrupt, impotent, and dysfunctional that when the First Order wipes them out in "The Force Awakens " One can already say "Good Riddance!"
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both the Jedi and the Republic MUST fall. Sabine must become Mandalore and conquer the Republic and clean house. Sabine must also institute Force training into their culture.
I'm not a well versed in legend lore, but we're Luke and Leia outed as siblings? Since Leah was outed as Vader's biological daughter, that would absolutely fuel mistrust over the new Jedi order.
My head cannon is the new republic is bitter that luke’s Jedi order won’t be their own personal army like the previous Jedi order
It's as if the New Republic wanted Luke to become another Lord Hoth with a new Army of Light.
Well, they did kinda expose themselves to threats with how rapidly they de-militarized. For the Old Republic it worked (kinda), but that was because the Jedi were a strong order then and could serve as peacekeepers. Luke, as powerful as he is, is but one man.
I I didn't get into the new jedi order much, but read most of the novels (even splinter of the mind's eye! ) prior. Luke definitely distanced himself from governments because that was where the Republican era Jedi made their mistake. They believed they could help more people by working on the wider scale, but this led to their strange distanced approach to the Code to allow them to forget that people were a connected motive to expressing the light side. Anyway, if anybody's still tagging along, I'd dearly love to see the X-wing rogue Squadron series. The first seven books, they got a bit disjointed in the last couple. Then the corran horne exteded arc, then...
Dude, that's disgusting. There's no reason to talk about your genitalia in this video.
Yes I think that's a good thing though the new Jedi Order Luke's Jedi Order I think will be separate from the Republic and I think that's a good thing but that's just my opinion
Unlike Leia, Luke did not seem comfortable with politics and having grown up in Tattoine, he may also not feel comfortable in a place like Coruscant. Mandalorian and Ahsoka also show just how much of the Imperials retained their position and power. As some people have pointed out, he may also sense that if the wrong people found out he was Anakin's son it would be worse for him, best to stay back from power. Also, it is not just Luke - he is the most feared because he is the most powerful, but people like Carson Teva, Hera and obviously Ahsoka are also looked upon with suspicion
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If anyone in the new republic knew that Luke is the son of Darth Vader, then I could see why they would distrust him completely. After the way they've casted out Leia upon learning that she was Vader's daughter, the new republic would do everything in their power to disassociate themselves from Luke and his Jedi academy.
The Differences between legends and Canon is that in Legends Luke and Leia's Ancestry was Common Knowledge, All of Vader's Action were put on Palpatine controlling him. Once Luke freed his Father from Palpatine's control he turned on the Emperor killing them both. The Galaxy knew Anakin was a Hero of the Clone Wars so it was easy to convince people that this was what happened. Disney Canon chose to Hide Luke and Leia's Ancestry thereby causing huge Scandal when it was made public.
True but I think Luke gets a little more leeway, I mean he destroyed the first death star, and as far as the empire knows he came out of the same room as vader and the emperor plus he fought so many battles. Not that Leia didn't but Luke had more of a reputation as a war hero than Leia. Plus Luke stayed out of politics which is the main reason why that information destroyed Leias career
Legends-Continuity Luke had almost godlike force powers that made even his own order nervous. Powers he had no problem openly displaying whenever it was deemed necessary so some of what happened to him was arguably self-induced. If you haven't read Legends material, basically all the powers that Ezra Bridger, Ahsoka Tano, and Anakin's Force Ghost have thus far displayed were at one point or another used by Legends-Continuity Luke Skywalker
CARA LUKE SKYWALKER LEGENDS É MAIOR JEDI SUPEROU YODA É TODOS OUTROS GRÃ MESTRES DA ORDEM ❤❤
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That sounds like the definition of a Mary Sue
@@kingk1rbyEU is terrible! disney might have made some bad choices, but I'm really, REALLY happy that George lucas is not in charge anymore!
Such astute world building. ... I mean, with the Rebels being an overwhelming underdog it makes perfect sense that they wouldn't be prepared or even good at running the entire galaxy.
All of which fits perfectly
And the fact that they were the Alliance *to Restore the Republic* put them on the wrong track from the start. The Republic didn't deserve to be restored, it needed to be replaced.
When you get right down to it, the Separatists were right.
@@RedXlV I hear ya, but I don't know if the separatists were totally right. ... Do believe more self awareness was needed during the transition into the New Republic. ... There should have been a realization that patience was needed to do things properly.
Planning, mass elections, training, etc
Instead there was shortsightedness & arrogance leading to politician types & others that are business savvy taking total advantage of the given situation because that's what they always do & ultimately - It was all allowed to go down.
it may fit, but it also sucks. Everything that our heroes worked through in the Original Trilogy just failed.
I think Luke Skywalker wanted to stay out of politics and focus on rebuilding the Jedi Order. I think he will be called by his sister to aid Ahsoka in the future. He will do that. But not bother with the New Republic at all. Great video ❤
Its pretty pathetic that the Republic would basically just revert back to what it was, a bloated, corrupt and inept system that learned nothing from the past decades (Not that its totally their fault). Though I do wonder what prequel era jedi would think of Legends Luke's new jedi order. I like to think some of them would approve. I also think that if Dooku ever found redemption and somehow lived to see it, he'd probably be one of Luke's greatest supporters since Luke would be trying to do what Jedi should be doing instead of reducing themselves to political enforcers. Luke did the right thing remaking the Jedi Order like he did.
as Palps once said in EP3 "ironic"
It's actually more realistic that way. In Hollywood, the bad guys are overthrown and thr good guys take over and everyone lives happily ever after.
But in reality, it isn't like that at all. You should read _The Dictator's Handbook_ or check out CGP Gray's _The Rules for Rulers_ if you want to understand why the new guys almost always look an awful lot like the old guys. It also makes you think twice about replacing the government. Structures and patterns of power cannot always be ignored for "the greater good."
Thats democracy for you. Making democracy state principle is like making corruption state principle
My guess is that the senators, especially the ones who did not fight in the GCW, are jealous and resentful towards the *military* heroes of the old Rebel Alliance. Just look at how much free time they seem to have to harass Hera, but not to investigate the Imperial conspiracy she helped uncover. These heroes are a problem for the politicians who want to be seen by the public as the ones building the NR. That's before you even factor in the ones who are secretly pro-Imperial and don't actually want the NR to remain strong enough to hold back the Remnant (or the hidden, at this point, First Order).
Its simply Luke and the Jedi not wanting to be tangled up in New Republic politics. He worked with the New Republic a lot, and had many allies within it, but a select few did push him away.
He didn't want to make the same mistake mistake the old Jedi Order did when it came to the Republic
@@TKnHappyNess word
As much as I love that episode of Mandalorian, I'm confounded by the fact that they didn't know who he was: "Are you a Jedi?"
If I was Luke I'd say "Uh yeah, I blew up the Death Star, twice, defeated the Emperor AND Darth Vader----and you guys haven't heard of me?"
Luke's defeat of Vader and Sidious was kept under wraps to the New Republic in Cannon. This could be why no one recognizes him.
Yeah that conversation was stupid. Everyone should have known who he was. He almost single handedly brought down the Empire.
@@flintswenson8234 Seriously? Why on earth would they do that? That sheds even more light on how ridiculous some of the people in charge were.
Din did not know who he was. I am pretty sure the others knew (Bo certainly did, though she might not know his face) and were more astounded that Grogu had been able to summon him. Of course Giden knew Luke, and seemed terrified of him
I don’t think Luke as a Jedi should care about prestige and glory. The Battle Of Endor went down in history as the battle where the Alliance fleet blew up the Death Star with the Emperor and Vader inside. Luke’s story there was a side detail, a detail he necessarily wasn’t willing to share with the public (considering the reputation damage a relation like that could cause his credibility or Leia’s political career). And even if he did come out and say ”oh yeah, I beat and killed both Vader and Palpatine” to hide the truth he would come across as pompous - very uncharacteristic of the now humble in-tune with the force jedi master Luke. It was a secret for him and his sister to share.
I don’t think Star Wars fans really think these things through; ”oh yeah, Luke was a hero to us. He should be the hero to the entire galaxy!” when it is just not true. Return of the Jedi underlines this with Vader’s burial and Luke’s sorrow being at a separate isolated location. And TLJ even tries to destruct this meta-myth of the ”great Luke Skywalker”.
If they actualy show this, it could explain why Luke just left in the end. It would make "the last Jedi" a way more logical movie, if he left because they forced him to, kinda send him away, telling him he would not be welcome. I would love to see Lukes story evolve maybe in the realm between realms, after his death. His thing is hope. I think he found it again in the end. Would love to see him more in shows and stuff. Maybe explain why he became so deppresed and hopeless and how he found his hope again.
Read fate of the jedi Luke is forcibly sent into exile but the new republics successor The Galatic Alliance
One thing that star wars needs to stop doing is killing all the Jedi and than realising oh we need more Jedi. I understand the original situation was star wars was only planned to be 3 movies so they just didn't have more Jedi. So they kinda had to create order 66. But why have Kylo Ren kill all the padawans and than Luke just leave behind everything. 1000s of years of Jedi history gone because a not even fully trained kid somehow killed everyone. Leaving behind any dislike of the depressed Luke character what future stories is their to tell. They pretty much killed everyone except Ray. They would either have to go far back or forward in time or a different galaxy. Their is nothing interesting left, which sucks because the end of episode 6 had so many possibilities. I think the biggest tragedy with the sequels is not that they were bad movies but that they destroyed the ability to tell interesting stories going into the future. Regardless of the movie being good or bad with a series with so much scope as star wars you always have to be aware of how your story will affect future stories. Maybe they can have Jedi trained by Ahsoka in another galaxy come back but at that point just make stories in the new galaxy instead.
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Yeah, Sequels weren't planned for the sake of longevity, that's for sure
Well yeah, it's still not the Luke I know, wish we could see him move a black hole and defeat Abeloth
There’s not much that could be done to make the sequels logical, especially if you look at what it did with Luke. The one that got Darth Vader back to the light, got tortured and still wouldn’t join the Emperor. That Luke would never be the Luke we got to see in the last Jedi. He’s personality just doesn’t match. Sure a personality can change but not fundamentally like this.
It was said that Luke was a very powerful Jedi. Could the New Republic, and the remnants of the Empire be jealous of him as well as afraid? If they knew what happened to Anakin, I think they would go ballistic.
what happened to him, why would go ballistic?
@@tommychappell6359 Because he became more powerful as a celestial being. Not that many people can defeat him, therefore he is more of a threat than Luke.
@1God1ChristYou’re mostly right, although it was actually Palpatine who brought down the Republic, not Anakin.
9:15 so in my book most of them don’t like Luke because they can’t control him, they can’t put him in a neat little box with a tag on it to be filed away and they hate that idea.
Legends(AKA old expanded universe) is better.
#truth
Yes
When they win, they think it's time to put up their feet. This is why both Republic and Jedi fell in the first place.
Well said.
Just finished up
Fate of the Jedi again through audible. Such a great series.
During the Yuuzhan Vong war, the new republic scapegoated the new jedi order for the invasion and even posted warrants for Luke’s arrest. When politics come into play,
He knew his order would be in danger.
He saw what happened to the old order when they were hampered by the old republic. If the old order had more freedom and independence, they would have caught palpatine.
Depends on the context amd which version.
In legends they blamed the jedi directly for the emperor because they didnt know the difference between the sith and the jedi. And jealousy was a thing. Further the new republic consider them their own government body that remained an outside threat.
In canon they also blamed the jedi for the Empire. They believed false pretense set forth by palpatine and later the fact that Luke as a member of the rebellion when it came to light hos father was vader was a slap in the face. They also resented that Luke actively sought to not follow the path of the Jedi prior to him where they became essentially a branch of the government- the jedi were jedi only- this however had drawback as it would prevent jedi from performing their duty as jedi- so jedi became nothing more really than monks preserving jedi teaching and nothing more, eventually being a redundant existence.
I really hope they re-cast Luke for his role in the Thrawn conflict to come. The de-aging cgi tech is getting better, but with Anakin we have a 42 y/o, relatively young still Hayden. With Luke we have a 70+ Mark Hamill. Get a new actor and the sky is the limit for storytelling. It can be done.
I don't disagree but disney is not interested in telling stories anymore
@@herooflight7931 How can you say that with what Filoni is doing in Ahsoka and the Thrawn stuff?
@@falsevacuum4667Because it's all a dead end considering it leads to 7-9 regardless.
@@The_Lucent_Archangeli guess the prequels were a dead end too huh? We shouldn't have gotten the prequels or anything outside of the ot
@nezarecdiscipleofthewitnes3823 messing up a sequel has far more impact on a story than messing up a prequel. A sequel can ruin future storytelling. A prequel can be bad but it tends to just be forgotten or disregarded it if it isn't liked. The sequels locked in a lot of things which inhibit future story telling. Them also having all the jedi be dead and a myth doesn't help. You have to do so much to just make a jedi character exist. Than it's about where they were with the first order so many things cause issues for storytelling. I think just go to a new galaxy and give up on the previous one. Unless you want to make a prequel that's 1000s of years in the past or future.
Super unrelated but I just realized we are the only ones as viewers that saw what happened when Vader and palpatine when Luke showed up, and from everyone’s perspective Luke walked into there handcuffed with the two and he was the only one who walked out of there free, that’s just badass
By the Force! If I see Celestial Anakin talking with and encouraging Luke within any of these Filoni-verse shows, I think I'll lose it lol
lose it good, or lose it bad ??
@@originalSiiiN lose it good lol, it would be the encouragement Luke would need, knowing that he brought his father back to the Light and now he’s here to coach his son
@@garyfrombrooklyn BET DAT !!
When you realize Ezra and Luke are basically the same age😮
Basically? They are literally the same age. Both were born when the empire was declared.
A between worlds meeting between Luke and new godlike Anakin would be amazing to see. What would they talk about? The time they had missed, what could have been? Probably some cryptic force conversation steeped in Jedi dogma to entice the true Star Wars deep dive fan’s. Well that’s what I hope happens!
If I remember correctly, the biggest problem with the New Republic in Legends is the severe lack of manpower. They were stretched way too thin, trying to do what they could around the galaxy.
And this is why the new republic actually needs luthan from Andor (it’s a shame that odds are by the time of Ashoka he is probably dead) as the best way to counter Imperial sympathisers is with good people that believe in the republic but are willing to do whatever it takes to defend it, I mean accidents happen and suddenly a senator gets sucked out and airlock it’s very tragic😈
It’s actually one of the ideas I liked in Star Trek when they showed section 31 in DS9, they make it clear that they are the bad guys but you have to ask are they? I know I’ve said you should always be scared of people that say “”for the greater good”” and bloody terrified of the ones that truly mean it but that’s all S31 was doing , removing any threats to the federation internal or external, and looking at the new republic it could really do with its own section 31 as it needs all the help it can get.
I fear part of the reason the NR has such problems is because Luthen and his spies may all have died during the last war against the empire, just like Andor
The New Republic became Yuuzhan Vong appeasers.....and Admiral Daala becoming Chief of State of the Galactic Alliance in an authoritarian power move against the Jedi, using Jacen Solo's fall to the dark side as an excuse. Kenth Hamner was a tool. I wonder who Ben Skywalker eventually ended up with to have Kol and Cade Skywalker as descendants.
Considering she was Tarkin's lover, she had a space station size ax to grind. 😊
@@oddmanout8692 She makes a point in Darksaber wondering why capable women rising to positions of command are considered to have slept with men to get there.
The question I have, is: How did George Lucas intend to portray The Jedi's relationship with The New Republic?
Check out the old EU, otherwise known as "Legends" nowadays. The majority of those books were approved to be published by George. Of course, he mostly just read the blurbs, and probably checked out a chapter or two, maybe three... But they still had to have his approval.
Overall, Luke had ridiculous levels of Force Power, and it was both a relief, and utterly terrifying, to the New Republic. Mostly because they feared he might turn against them, and they resented the fact that they had little recourse on how to deal with him. He would help them, but it often, to the leaders, felt like he'd do so on a whim. They didn't understand that he wanted to keep The Jedi Order and The New Republic as separate entities. This comes from the idea of Church & State being separate, considering the Jedi Order is akin to a religion.
@@MrJinglejanglejingle I know that George Lucas' plan was for Chief-Of-State Mon Mothma to have to strike a delicate truce with some of the crime syndicates of The Outer Rim, so as to keep the beginnings of The New Republic viable. Leia was also supposed to be a Senator and a Force-user, while a Wife and Mother to her children with Han Solo. Apparently, for Lucas, Luke would never marry or have children, since his main focus was on creating a New Jedi Order. It seems, Favreau and Filoni are following some of George's concepts and world-building for The SWU after ROTJ; hence, The Remnant Empire, The Pirate Nation, Boba Fett's gotra, and the growing criminal organizations within the galaxy (which will be centerstage in the video game, SW: Outlaws). I'm just wondering if Lucas' intention was for The Jedi to NOT be directly connected to The New Republic's government body, in contrast to The Galactic Republic of 1000 years? Now, the whole pocket universe of The Mandalorian Saga is going to add even more to this drama and intrigue, now that The Pathway To Peridea/The New Beyond is about to shake The SWU like never before...
In reality, Luke is too toxic for modern-day Disney.
Pretty much
Hate is a strong word.
They just had very different ideals.
Honestly it's a good thing in both canon and legends that Luke distanced himself away from galactic politics, now while the Imperial remnants being petty sound bad and is most assuredly a bad thing, Luke is also aware that the biggest fault the Clone Wars era Jedi faced were the fact they became too politically involved in the galaxy and was forced to fight in the Clone Wars, not volunteered to as his new Jedi academy did in the Vong war.
I just happened to re-listen to The Krytos Trap(X-Wing series) last night for the first time in years and was thinking about all the crazy politics.
I just want the Vong to follow AT and Thrawn back and a new threat emerges once the First Order falls. (If they are planning a post FO fall storytelling)
Rey training Jedi to fight them
Imperial joining with Resistance to fight them
Maybe throw fricking new Sith duo also having to ally to kill ‘em
Remove Rey and First Order and I agree.
Looking like Abeloth might be the one…
The conflict between Jedi and Sith have caused destruction and death for eons for everyone not Force users. It's a sick twisted cycle. I think Baylon knows this and isn't a Sith because he doesn't want this cycle to continue, but knows that Jedi take a "police officer" approach to keeping the peace and Baylon wants to slice the darker middle ground and stamp out resistance to what he feels is a better bath Thrawn might bring.
Thank you for talking about Legends. Unfortunately, Disney hates us, so Hera takes the padded-up place of Luke & isnt just a new character which despite the "theyre misogynist!" propaganda from Disney, no one would mind. We (at least I) love Twi'lek characters, Ahsoka is canon in my Star Wars timeline, & I dont even consider the final products of any movie besides 4 & 5 as canon, so.
This sounds like the movie I've been wanting.
This would be a better logical explanation for why Luke went into exile than just simply because of Ben. If in addition to the incident with Ben, Luke was also dealing with this from the New Republic and with his new Jedi Order burned down decided to do what the New Republic wished and simply get lost.
It’s so disappointing knowing that whatever Luke builds in the Disney cannon is doomed to die in order for the Sequel Trilogy to happen. It’s kinda like watching The Clone Wars knowing Anakin, the Jedi, the Republic, the clones, Dooku, the Separatists, and basically everyone except Palpatine would lose in the end, but at least in that case, we knew the heroes and stories that would rise once the fall happened so you could feel slightly better about it. I don’t have that same sentiment with the Sequels.
Is like superhero movies jedi and the republic is like two faction with they're own perspectives having conflict with each other
I think we should also remember that mon mothma was also skeptical of the jedi. She was the only one in the old republic delegation who didn't have a personal relationship with the jedi. In rogue one she asks bail organa if it is right to seek out ben kenobi. I think if bail organa was still alive and became the new republic chancellor, doubt about the jedi would've been better mitigated.
Cue “What Comes Next?” from Hamilton.
Now that u mention Bothans it’s so sad that there aren’t Bothans in the current canon
I understand why Luke hates New Republic. He gave them freedom,peace. He knows he's not welcome. So he left New Republic. He protects his Jedi Order too. Jedi don't listen to New Republic. Which is the right way. It always was. Luke could meet Anakin. They need him against Thrawn. Luke didn't want to fall in a trap like old Jedi. May the Force be with you too😊
During the Kotor and Swtor times it was probably fine for the Jedi to be so connected to the Republic since there was a powerful enemy trying to kick the door down. Though the Jedi were still their own organization back then. Since then they allowed themselves to become the lackeys of the Senate instead of their own organization. Can't blame Luke for wanting to avoid that same mistake.
I also find it a little amusing/annoying that the galaxy just forgot what happened the last time the Jedi Order was nearly wiped out.
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The Jedi Order were instrumental in allowing Darh Sidious’ rise to ultimate power. And his right-hand man was Anakin Skywalker, the venerated “Chosen One”, supposedly encapsulating the best of what a Jedi was meant to be. And look at how that all played out.
Honestly, how can we fault the New Republic for not trusting Luke? The son Darth Vader and now the most powerful Jedi alive. Hero of the war or not, no one in their right mind would or should trust him farther than they can throw him.
We have the benefit and luxury of knowing Luke’s true self. We know he’s pure of heart and mind. But the people of that galaxy don’t. They’ve seen this exact same song and dance before. I think it’s good story writing to make this rift between them. It makes sense. Given the history at play, they’d be reckless beyond reason to trust him at all. Ever.
Those who do not learn from history, are doomed to repeat the mistakes of history.
It is possibly both not wanting to repeat the mistakes of the past by a line the Jedi with the New Republic and possibly anti-jedi sentiment in the New Republic
Now seeing Jacen turn into Sith Lord later in the future would be something I’d love to watch in Canon ❤
It might be an unpopular opinion, but I would like it if they recast Luke, Leia, and Han so that we can get new stories with those characters in the new republic era.
or just use AI. the tech is mature enough
@@sommojames Too uncanny valley for me. Also, it's a bit morally questionable to start replacing actors with CG or AI
@@whathappenswhenimbored they already did it. Tarking and Leia in Rogue One, when tech was not as good as today. And of course Luke in Mando S2 and BOB
EDIT: S2
i grew up with Star Wars and the original movies. Leia was my first crush. i have a hard time even watching anything with Carrie Fisher in it, or even Rogue One. i dont know how i would feel if they re-cast her. not a fan or a hater of cgi but, this role seems like the perfect fit for cgi
Unfortunately nah, it isn't there yet. The process of making something like that is a complete nightmare and would likely be too difficult to implement for a show or even for a main character in a movie.@@sommojames
That Forested World is Ossus.
The New Republic may be incompetent in both universes but they had more of a brain in the Pre Disney EU.
It would have been interesting if Disney made a Jedi Academy movie set after ROTJ, with 25 year old Luke recruiting teenage force-users as his first Jedi apprentices. I could imagine Finn Wolfhard, Jaden Smith and Jenny Ortega playing the younger Jedi
I blame Ewoks on Endor 😂🔥
TBF, Luke saw how entwining the JO & OR led to the purge.
The original Death Star had like a million crew. Luke was absolutely seen as a terrorist by the Imps. Some of the Imperials would have just been serving in their planets regiment. 20 years of Imperial rule made folks secure. 20 years makes things "normal". some serving had no political preferences, they were just in the military. The dustruction of the Death Star would swayed their beliefs one way or the other. some of those serving absolutely continued their service into the New Republic change over, secretly hating Luke in particular
if i remember correctly the bothen senator would always try to make it dificult for luke and anyone assosiated with the jedi including lea. i think they was also the cancelor at the start of the vong invasion (if i remember correctly) and even then they tryed their best to completly undermine the jedi untill they was killed during the vongs invasion of coresount.
Luke isn't part of Disney new republic cause of 1 person - KK. Perhaps, once she is gone we will get more Luke stories and involvment.
She needs to be gone now
so the most realistic part of the Star Wars universe is that politicians put themselves before the people.
Honestly, I feel like Grand Admiral Thrawn should rule the galaxy as a Fair Ruler
With what has been shown thus far, those theories of what we can possibly see now holds alot of weight. Some of my friends have unfortunately already given up. But I can see the bigger picture of this. And also my own theory is that what we have seen from Madalorian, Boba Fett, and Ahsoka is that it could lead to the battle of Jakku. I could be wrong, but since we know little of that battle, it is possible that it could be the end game of all of this
Its worth remembering that the Old Republic, Empire, and New Republic were run by 99% the same people. The Empire only lasted like, 23 years. And the Senate wasn't fully dissolved until A New Hope. That basically means that if, say, US Senator Mitch McConnell for instance were elected to the Galactic Senate the same year it was reorganized into the Empire, he likely would still hold his same seat when the New Republic was formed. With just a brief gap in his career during the events of the Original Trilogy. And that's not even to get into local politics.
So of course the New Republic was corrupt and unstable. The Old Republic was corrupt and unstable, the Empire was corrupt and unstable, and all three of those governments were run by all the same people, give or take Sheev Palpatine.
*Groan* Luke is tired, let him rest. Give the other survivors screen time!
Luke related question
Arent the Darktroopers in the Mando made from beskar?
How is it that luke sliced through them like butter?
I think I would like to see a Legends and separate cannon series done with Dave Filoni overseeing both. With George Lucas giving his wisdom.
I agree with Luke and his order staying out of politics it is what got the old order in trouble in the first place. The new republic seems to be their own worse enemy in many respects
Can we get Darth Caedus?
We have Darth Caedus at home!
Darth Caedus at home aka Kylo Ren
Instead of making the new trilogy about the aftermath of Skywalker family's fate, we instead have a fanmade one.
Great video, Luke missing feels off
It's a shame that we won't get a series where Luke recruits n trains new potential Jedi. Mostly from Legends. Because I'm sure it would've made an awesome series. But the chance for that passed decades ago. But one a side note. Nice video.
It's still confirmed, rumor of having an avenger style movie, with all the shows, to fight Thrawn?
Well, the Jedi never should've been under the rule of the Senate regardless. But hey, if they don't like how they can't control the Jedi then, fine, let the Sith handle the Republic instead. 😅
One can contend the one of the failures of the Old Republic was its over reliance on "Warrior Monks with laser swords" So who can blame those in the Senate for not wanting to repeat that mistake?
I'm hoping for a third path to be formed Laggends/KK-'s Mary Sue Future/Filoni's nudging(3)
The Republic isn't any different from every other Republic, it isn't any different from the old republic. Hell it isn't any different from real world republics.
Meet the New Republic, same as the Old Republic?
They are corrupt and really pissed because he wouldn’t be their puppet I don’t blame Luke at all he understands things at a much deeper level he is focusing his time on being a Jedi and keeping that New Jedi order separate from the politics of the republic. He stays out of shit if he can help it but he knows that he can’t work out in the open he has to do things discreetly he does things from the background fixing shit without acknowledgement cuz it’s right the Jedi have to work behind the scenes not everyone likes the idea of not having strong combatants on their side and Luke is like nah we don’t play puppetry here he won’t be a puppet and that’s what they want. He’s not about to let the new order suffer the same way the old order did
Rumors say Ahsoka S2 will be about the night sisters, and they will destroy the force so only women can use the force and evil men can use it too but only if you are evil (The Force Is Female)... If Episode 7+8+9 did not destroy Star Wars then this will be the last nail in the coffin of Star Wars.
Grand Master Luke Skywalker doesn’t hate anyone.
"It wouldnt make sense for luke not to be involved in something this huge"
The problem with your logic is that the disney execs are actively trying to replace the original characters, Ahsoka for example is MEANT to BE Luke skywalker, hence why SHE is the jedi training others and gallavanting across the galaxy saving it while Luke sets up for what is already known to be a failure.
I doubt we'll see much of Luke. It's why Legends really is the real canon, the current canon..is kinda garbage.
I think Luke wants to stay away from politics as this was a large part as to why Yoda's Jedi Order fell.
Also, as there is little knowledge of the Force and Jedi Order, Luke wants to focus on what he can find and re-create the Jedi Order.
He wants to serve the Force, not be a servant of the New Republic. Servant or slave!
Still, things are going to change now that Ezra has returned as he was at the start of the Alliance. He will likely help the New Republic, and many know Ezra vanished with Thrawn and Ezra's return could be all the proof Hera needs to flush out disloyalty or to unite the New Republic.
At the same time if Ezra fights with the New Republic they could use it to make Luke join the fight against Thrawn or banish him if he refuses!
The new republic should make the jedi luke, ahsoka special constables as law enforcement. They work with new republic special forces units and commandos to take out difficult enemies such as baylon skoll, thrawn etc. Don't bring back the jedi order but make them enhanced agents working for the military..
Thrawn should team up with Luke. They would be unstoppable and everyone would be better off.
No wonder rebels didn’t know him in Mandalorian season 2.
Imagine overthrowing a tyrannical government just to make a new equally bad one
I don't think I've seen a video where you've gasped into the microphone, let alone 4 times
wait how can the repulbic decide who the grand master is? Lukes Jedi order was not connected to the New republic other than maybe an alliance.
if i were luke at this point i would have been like man i missed my chance to JOIN palpatine
i bet luke realised sense the jedi made a oath to the republic then the jedi basically couldnt fulfil their purpose of u know following the teachings of the force. So luke probably was like look i will be over here doing my thing u do ur thing just dont fuck it up otherwise i might get involved.
Why aren’t Bothans ever shown
If Luke is involved in taking do we n Thrawn I would like to see Ezra, Leia, Ahsoka, and Luke fight together.
Instead of trying to retcon The Last Jedi, we can have an entire series of Luke's adventures and misadventures leading him up to being the disillusioned hermit. Legends and the "Mandoverse" Are already showing the New Republic as being so corrupt, impotent, and dysfunctional that when the First Order wipes them out in "The Force Awakens " One can already say "Good Riddance!"
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I think a mix of Luke wanting to keep the Jedi separate from the New Republic and anti-Jedi sentiment that keeps the New Republic and Jedi separate.
It's probably a little of both
They're all just player haters. Mad, because he's got that DRIP, and they don't...lol.
Think its both anti jedi and also luke not wanting to fall into the same trap the pervious jedi fell in
I'm surprised the New Republic didn't ban force users. I mean, Darth Vader, the Emperor. That's a typical govt. response.
And then God Anakin would came down (World between worlds Anakin) and rule entire galaxy as now a true God of the Force. 🙂😁
Luke is too wise to let the Jedi get involved with politics again.
Borrsk the bothan senator is basically the GOP in the New Republic
both the Jedi and the Republic MUST fall. Sabine must become Mandalore and conquer the Republic and clean house. Sabine must also institute Force training into their culture.
I'm not a well versed in legend lore, but we're Luke and Leia outed as siblings? Since Leah was outed as Vader's biological daughter, that would absolutely fuel mistrust over the new Jedi order.