*LOL WOW!! Yeah so.. at the **31:10** mark I accidentally used the wrong graphic on the screen. Suffice to say this RV does NOT have an electric heating fireplace IN THE UNDERBELLY LOLOLOL* _-Josh_
Oh congratulations you got a great one! If these videos were helpful to you along the way, then I love it if you dropped my name and a quick review at search.google.com/local/writereview?placeid=ChIJ6QmeZ7bXF4gR09yK01XHacM In return for the effort
Love it! Just wish the bunkroom tv was in front of the couch. Kids love video games on rainy days (any day) and that's my only downside. Awesome floorplan!
I live thus floor plan. I like the storage above the theater seats. Love the bunk room. Not so sure if the griddle being where it’s at instead of with the outdoor kitchen. Not deal breaker. Thank you Josh!
I like the bigger camp kitchen fridge and the fact they brought back stonecast sinks, even though this is bigger than I need, I have to admit Coachmen did a good job with it.
👏👏Josh I think that the reason that you’re tripping over the word pronunciation is that you was so excited to video this one, you ran outside without your Montana head warmer on, your brain semi froze, you realized that you forgot your head warmer, ran back inside put it on, your brain was in shock by that time which affected your pronunciation of words😆, normally we don’t like dark wood tones, but with the light wood accent on the slide trim & dining table top makes a big difference. All of the inside gets 👍👍, the outside kitchen location at the South Forty & grill located up at the North Forty would take some getting used to. This one is 👍👍👍 you’re 👍👍👍👍👍. Thank for videoing in the Michigan cold weather, have a blessed day today and keep’m coming God Bless
I like where the grill is. It gives you a cooking space and a separate hang out space. Nothing annoys the wife faster the the kids running around while she is trying to cook. In a perfect world a u-dinnette for extra lounge space and a bed slide and oh baby the dream is real.
An awesome floorplan and decor with a true queen bed, porcelain toilets, a TV, theater seating, a bunk room sofa and quality dinette drawer glides. These are some of the standard features that puts this Coachmen RV far ahead of so many other manufacturers today👍 Hopefully soon, ladders will once again be a standard safety feature along with a standard solar package. The only real negative of this trailer is having to hook up to 2 separate sewer outlets located 20 ft from each other😬
@@JoshtheRVNerd When I see awesome I say so! I just happen to have the same passion for ladders and porcelain toilets as you seem to have for door window shades👍
I don't usually waste time looking at inaccessible (to the essentials) while in travel mode trailers. However.... with the slide being smaller and curbside, it would actually work for us. I love this floor plan! I love Coachmen! I love all the standard features! I would like to have the grill and outdoor kitchen together, but it's not a deal breaker. I'd also prefer the solar package. This just made our "short list" a bit more difficult!! Yikes🤯😳🤣🤣🤣
I love several things on this TT. I love the fact the slide out LR/Dining has the side windows…..nice touch. Not sure I have seen that before. Love the outside hatch doors and the latch systems and how they lock in to remain open. Wasn’t sure if I missed it but the tires…….are they GY Endurance with tpms? Definitely a second AC for the master. The bed frame too was neat how they made side drawers into the frame. The only thing I found weird was the position of the electric fireplace. Seems best to put that floor level as heat rises and to be better positioned for warming your feet on a cooler day.
Hi Michael! *TIRES?* Not Goodyears on these nor do they include factory TPMS, though those are both things we could potential upfit for you. Our teams could get you a quote on that. Thanks for watching. Keep the questions and comments flowing!
I love it, lock the kids in the back for the entire trip, I mean they got their own potty, just kidding. Really nice floorplan. It's also a very nice-looking unit.
lol more than once I think my mom would've considered shoving me and my brother into the back of one of these and closing the slides up when we were younger :)
Josh we in our baby steps of camping , never owned one , don't know anything about it . We just started looking . I seen couple other RUclipsrs till I found you're channel . Man you're video's are awesome 👍 . Thank you .
I 💕 Freedom Express. I just wish they would put w/d hookups in their units. In this model, I would love w/d prep in the bh closet. In your little camper baby, the 252RBS, I would like a combo w/d prep in that huge bathroom cabinet over the outside kitchen. I love the ventless & carpetless floors, the azdel, the true queen bed, the bedroom setup, the decor, and the curb appeal. Not the best indoor kitchens, but workable. Overall, I really like them, would buy in a hot minute with w/d prep.
Looking to purchase this model! Can the extra AC be put in the bunkroom?? That room is closed off from the rest of the trailer....also, can I choose another color than black wood everywhere??
Regarding decors: Freedom only uses the one wood paneling currently. We have a similar layout from jayco with two different interior options. Here’s a sample of one m.ruclips.net/video/4fMMkvGs4yg/видео.html
7:51 now THAT slide facia (slide box frame) is GORGEOUS 🤩 & I’d LOVE to see a whole RV in that decor… 👀 *it’s almost wasted in this RV with very dark STORM decor ⛈ 😞
Hey josh, another great enthusiastic video. So, I'm here to offer my unsolicited opinion on this model (well, you did ask so I guess it's not that unsolicited LOL). Likes: can't think of one. Oh wait, the outside kitchen has a sink. Though I kinda like (didn't think I would) that mine DOESN'T have a sink as there is a sprayer connection (hot/cold) right next to it and we dry camp a lot so it is nice to not fill the grey tank when rinsing off grill tools or a pot/pan. Plus without the sink I have a lot more counter space. I have a Flagstaff 529RBS. Like the theater seating, prefer over a plain couch. Dislikes: oh man, where do I start. My camper has a similar floorplan but with sides where there are none here. Mine has the door side super slide and the bunk room slide, but also a kitchen slide and wardrobe slide in the master. I don't like how this floorplan is so sandwiched together and they could really have opened it up with at least a kitchen slide. (Look up the floorplan for my model, think the Rockwood 8529BH is the twin, but not sure, there is a twin though, you'll see how much more open it could have been with very little additional weight). Black furniture and cabinets, too dark. The table is nice but the butcher-block look clashes with the rest of the interior. 12V fridge is and always will be a deal killer for me. I know more people who regret going this route and some who 'assumed' they were getting an RV (two-way elec/gas) fridge and are now stuck with dead batteries and spoiled food...even with solar, many people don't know that in reality, they're absolutely NOT going to get more than a few days without having to swap or charge batteries with a generator, so anyone dry camping for longer take note, it's simply not a viable option. And just from the video, it looks like cheap materials were used. Just looks like IKEA put it all together. Summary, it's too cramped and not boondock-friendly. I do love that you show 'road mode' as it is a deciding factor for many. At one time it would have been a deal killer for me too but when we were looking at floorplans we found the perfect one, and the only drawback was you can only access the master bedroom and master bathroom while travelling. Ours is more a 'destination' model, but we accepted the tradeoff and couldn't be happier. Happy new year, always looking for your latest vids.
Thanks for sharing your own take on the good, bad, ugly, and in between! I've seen models like yours from Rockwood (The twin you mentioned), Cougar, Salem/Wildwood Heritage Glen/Hemisphere, and and a few others. I Can definitely appreciate the extra space those extra slide provide. I think Coachmen's idea on this one was to work to keep the weight in check though between the length and weight you still have I feel like this is still easily past that 1/2 ton mark so you haven't really changed the vehicle in the process.
@@JoshtheRVNerd I agree with the 'not half ton' towable aspect, that's why if it had been up to me I would have designed it with at least the kitchen slide. As for the model I have (and the Rockwood twin) do you think you'd have an opportunity to do one of your famous reviews on them? There is hardly anything currently on RUclips or online in general (save for ones for sale with a 30%-40% markup!)? You know people who own a certain model love seeing theirs being shown and I think if more people knew about this floorplan there would be more sold. We absolutely LOVE it. Anyway, thanks for the reply! Bet Coldwater is living up to its name today...LOL. Best to ya.
@@NYVET48TFW I'm a massive Rockwood/Flagstaff fan and would 100% like to get more of them recorded. I definitely hope to capture more models we haven't seen here before
3:41 less-carpet 🆚 carpet-less = for those RV’s that still have a sniffle (typed “smidge” but autocorrect knew better) of carpet in them, even when not covering the entire bedroom floor or in slide outs‼️😉 *for those who complain if there’s any sign of any carpet anywhere in teh RV = a way to head themn off at the pass 😏
I don’t like those very thin axles on this one they look a little cheap what is the tongue weight on this particular one because I have a 1500 5.3l crew cab 4x4lt, with upgraded suspension to 3/4.
This is the one my bride really likes, the two bedrooms, as well as the bath & a half, not to mention I loooove the double Azdel... but, Holy Smokes on the sticker shock compared to last year's version. Inflation 2022 has officially hit... as big as the Sta-Puff Marshmallow Man taking over New York in the 1980s 😳 😉
@@DavidHBurkart It's been shocking across and consistent across the board But not just in RVs Vehicles Boats Furniture even.. Seems like so many industries are all facing the same issues suddenly
@@JoshtheRVNerd ...don't I know it. These past six months in particular have been sobering to say the least. We just bought new furniture this past August. I was just grateful to get it within weeks rather than months, even at the inflated pricing BTW, I am glad to see your video recipes have not been "pressure cooked" by others. Same 'ol Uncle Josh! Good on the Bish family for that!
@@DavidHBurkart Yeah no worries about that. I'm helping the Coldwater Store with its transition to Bish's so I might slip and have a few days coming up here where I can't get something out but I'm trying hard to keep SOMETHING coming out every day for you!
Love the videos and I see this being a potential upgrade from my Sunset Trails 253RB. The only dislikes I have are the TV placement and the off side windows. I prefer the TV to be lower so that it lines up more with normal head height while seated. As far as the windows, I'd like them to be wider with less wall in between. If I can get my wife to go along with the queen bed (10" narrower than our king) this would be an awesome trailer. Well thought out with great features.
As a camper who does almost all my cooking outdoors on a BBQ under my TT awning, I really love the idea on outdoor kitchens. I would, however, probably never use the external grill if / when located up by the front door - useless and ill-placed in my mind. I would simply leave it at home (or sell it on E-Bay) and stick with my Costco portable BBQ, but preferably far sooner have the older model's grill-in-a-drawer in the outdoor kitchen, or have an external hanging grill right beside the O/D kitchen, to use in conjunction with my trusty Costco BBQ A question for Coachmen: Is or could the older model style Coleman grill-in-a-drawer be an alternative option OR would there be enough room to factory mount a hanging grill on the wall beside the O/D kitchen (even a smaller outside grill!)? This may be a redesign for Coachmen to think about. Also, I actually had the external grill mount eventually pull off the wall of a Flagstaff Shamrock and it would not structurally-soundly re-attach, so I am not a huge fan of hanging grills to start will. Everything else is awesome with this TT, as is the review - keep it up - the insights are very much appreciated.
As a thought, what about a bumper mount swing-aroind type grill mount? Seems like that would work pretty well, and this one definitely has the cargo capacity for it!
That Coleman grill they used to use is no longer available. Basically since they're not stocking that part now in this factory we can't get it on their campers. You might still see it on a few Apex models, but that's a different shop and a different team. It's sort of one of those things that's more obvious if you ever get a chance to visit some facilities. Otherwise you just think "Well go get one from that other building." When you see them working you go "oh.. I get it.. that throws everything off"
@@JoshtheRVNerd good to know. It was just an idea that seemed like it might have worked to get the grill back by the outside kitchen rather than up in the front 20 feet away from the rest of the kitchen. I haven't seen many of them since they were trendy at the RV shows about 10 years ago. Our Jayco came with one that looks very similar to the one on this trailer. We used it once. It's in an odd location like this one, doesn't have enough BTU output to work well, doesn't like the wind, and takes up a ton of space inside. It's been in our attic for almost a decade.
OK. I watched the rest of the video. The uuuuutinsel drawer is outside. But, I thought of something else. When you talked about the vent fan, I wondered if a vent fan could be installed in the bunk room.
Check your video at about the 31:10 minute mark when your talking about the forced air heated underbelly, the caption graphic you used was promoting an electric fireplace, lol
Josh is it ok to post a link to my 2020 that i have on consignment with you guys? Just thought if people wanted to one that was new but didn't want pay the new cost. If it not allow I understand that why I ask
Nice pantry storage and like the space and full queen in the bedroom. Thats the best bunk house with it's own 1/2 bath. The main bath is very nice with lots of " Fluffy space" and the shower still a decent size. Like the built in laundry " Handry" the camp kitchen and grill area apart weird but not a deal breaker and the large fan in bathroom is great. I like the drawers under the dinette seats and kitchen counter area for a smaller RV is not bad. But besides thinking they too need to put in a built in slash guard against the sidewalls, frig area etc... And this being constantly said why haven't these manufacturers done this. What is there answer?
Very nice! You had me at 60x80 real queen bed and heated theater seats! I like the kitchen but you are right about a corner lazy Susan. It would maximize storage and prevent the pretzel twisting access. Very nice bathroom. I don't need a bunkhouse; is there a non-bunkhouse model with the residential queen and theatre seats?
@@JoshtheRVNerd I did see this a month ago and raved about it. The only thing I would change is make it a rectangular shower but at least it isn't a tub! Question as some just edumicating myself about RVing, can the camp kitchen fridge be used in transit to hold enough for a lunch/snack fixings and beverages for a quick test area stop? Also,in your next edumicating opportunity, can you explain the countertop materials use in RV's? I have heard solid surface (presumably a Corian-type material) vs. the more common other material (maybe called foil sealed?)? Does the common countertop have a greater moisture issue? Is the solid surface a worthwhile upgrade? (I realize it is probably packaged in with other features or as in this case, part of this line.). Just a question I am sure you can answer during a future TV review of one of the models you feature. Thanks!
@@rosemarydoran9907 the camp kitchen fridge on this one doesn't operate in transit as it's a 110-only fridge (not propane or 12v compressor). So it could definitely hold plenty of lunch-stuff, but it's not necessarily running while you're rolling (Unless you add a little inverter). *COUNTER TOPS:* 3 Main Types used: → T-Molded: Has Seams. Water can get into them if not wiped up. Can cause swelling around those seams. → Sealed Edge (aka thermofoil): Made with the same material, but the top layer is actually formed down around the particle board core to seal it from water intrusion. Less costly than solid surface and usually a bit lighter with many of the same benefits → Solid Surface: Actually a high density plastic btw. Shiny and usually "looks" the best. But heavier and more expensive.
@@JoshtheRVNerd thank you for taking the time to explain this fridge wouldn't run in transit w/o solar support. I figured it was something like that or you would have suggested that. Thanks for explaining the countertop situation! Very helpful! Thanks for always replying to my comments/questions! It is appreciated!!
Is it 100% practical no but does it work heck yeah. I definitely like this interior I was nervous when I saw the 274rks this definitely works for me. I do feel a second ac is a must because of the 3 separate rooms and length. I do think there's gonna be a picnic table problem tho as many times we found it doesn't fit width wise with the slide as it hangs of the pad and such. Great unit tho overall👍👍
Let's look on the positive side, at least you can still go pee And tell the kids to take a nap in travel mode. You can always go get a quick bite to eat somewhere else.
My channel here is kind of disconnecting from the local dealership level to some degree. I don’t know if that’s a plan for the coldwater store right now as I shift more to videos more exclusively
But man trying to figure out if could handle the weight! I have F150 and we got it for towing current trailer. All research and talking to ford says 12000! Already wanted to bag it and already have weight distribution hitch! Bet I’d be good to go!
*LOL WOW!! Yeah so.. at the **31:10** mark I accidentally used the wrong graphic on the screen. Suffice to say this RV does NOT have an electric heating fireplace IN THE UNDERBELLY LOLOLOL*
_-Josh_
You know for the bigger / fluffy people you know like bazooka butts like me . I like me a big COMMODE room . You're stuff is awesome & hilarious
@@antonk1893 "Bazooka butt" almost got me spitting out my drink over here
Defiantly a thumbs up to Coachman for continuing to put cabinets above the sofa / theater seats. Small thing thats kind of a big thing.
Agreed! They seem to really understand the importance of storage rather than just "the look" of the RV>
Interrogation lights 🤣 love it! Interesting camper.
WHERE WERE YOU ON THE 32nd OF NEVRUARY?
My husband and I just bought this exact travel trailer in March 2022. We love it!!!
Oh congratulations you got a great one! If these videos were helpful to you along the way, then I love it if you dropped my name and a quick review at search.google.com/local/writereview?placeid=ChIJ6QmeZ7bXF4gR09yK01XHacM In return for the effort
Awesome floor plan. Thanks for sharing Josh👍👍
You bet!
21:20 ... caught me laughing WAY too loud at work. Love it!
My family appreciates the news, reviews, and comedic interludes!
:) thx Kris!! Eager to bring some fun and new stuff this year
I’m really liking these freedom expresses from coachman
They're a guilty pleasure of mine. They just do a LOT of things I personally like and find smart/useful when camping
Love it! Just wish the bunkroom tv was in front of the couch. Kids love video games on rainy days (any day) and that's my only downside. Awesome floorplan!
That’s when you take the switch into handheld mode 😉
Very nice freedom Express!👍👍👍👍👍
I live thus floor plan. I like the storage above the theater seats. Love the bunk room. Not so sure if the griddle being where it’s at instead of with the outdoor kitchen. Not deal breaker. Thank you Josh!
TY Sherri! :)
I like the bigger camp kitchen fridge and the fact they brought back stonecast sinks, even though this is bigger than I need, I have to admit Coachmen did a good job with it.
Agreed! This model never seems to get the attention I think it deserves
This is my favorite travel trailer. Love this thing
👏👏Josh I think that the reason that you’re tripping over the word pronunciation is that you was so excited to video this one, you ran outside without your Montana head warmer on, your brain semi froze, you realized that you forgot your head warmer, ran back inside put it on, your brain was in shock by that time which affected your pronunciation of words😆, normally we don’t like dark wood tones, but with the light wood accent on the slide trim & dining table top makes a big difference. All of the inside gets 👍👍, the outside kitchen location at the South Forty & grill located up at the North Forty would take some getting used to. This one is 👍👍👍 you’re 👍👍👍👍👍. Thank for videoing in the Michigan cold weather, have a blessed day today and keep’m coming God Bless
My pleasure, James. You might be right about the brain freezing :)
I like where the grill is. It gives you a cooking space and a separate hang out space. Nothing annoys the wife faster the the kids running around while she is trying to cook. In a perfect world a u-dinnette for extra lounge space and a bed slide and oh baby the dream is real.
Agreed. I like how segregated that camp kitchen is. Picnic table under the super slide awning and you’re good to go!!
An awesome floorplan and decor with a true queen bed, porcelain toilets, a TV, theater seating, a bunk room sofa and quality dinette drawer glides. These are some of the standard features that puts this Coachmen RV far ahead of so many other manufacturers today👍 Hopefully soon, ladders will once again be a standard safety feature along with a standard solar package. The only real negative of this trailer is having to hook up to 2 separate sewer outlets located 20 ft from each other😬
Thx Steve! Checks most of your boxes I see!!
I like how that half bath is hidden away behind that entertainment area
@@JoshtheRVNerd When I see awesome I say so! I just happen to have the same passion for ladders and porcelain toilets as you seem to have for door window shades👍
@@stevez340 lol that's totally fair. I do tend to harp on those a lot :)
20:26 my favorite bed set up of them all❗️🛏 🙌🏽
I don't usually waste time looking at inaccessible (to the essentials) while in travel mode trailers.
However.... with the slide being smaller and curbside, it would actually work for us.
I love this floor plan! I love Coachmen! I love all the standard features!
I would like to have the grill and outdoor kitchen together, but it's not a deal breaker.
I'd also prefer the solar package.
This just made our "short list" a bit more difficult!! Yikes🤯😳🤣🤣🤣
Sorry not sorry? 😆
I love several things on this TT. I love the fact the slide out LR/Dining has the side windows…..nice touch. Not sure I have seen that before. Love the outside hatch doors and the latch systems and how they lock in to remain open. Wasn’t sure if I missed it but the tires…….are they GY Endurance with tpms? Definitely a second AC for the master. The bed frame too was neat how they made side drawers into the frame. The only thing I found weird was the position of the electric fireplace. Seems best to put that floor level as heat rises and to be better positioned for warming your feet on a cooler day.
Hi Michael!
*TIRES?* Not Goodyears on these nor do they include factory TPMS, though those are both things we could potential upfit for you. Our teams could get you a quote on that.
Thanks for watching. Keep the questions and comments flowing!
That's a great "spend the whole summer" camping RV.
Oh for sure! Parked somewhere coming and going? Visiting the lake? This would be awesome
regular sofa maybe one of those covertable dinette and sofa things that you can design the way you want it
Team Couch
Kitchen counter top extension should be included.
I love it, lock the kids in the back for the entire trip, I mean they got their own potty, just kidding. Really nice floorplan. It's also a very nice-looking unit.
lol more than once I think my mom would've considered shoving me and my brother into the back of one of these and closing the slides up when we were younger :)
One of the better floor plans for sure . Well thought out inside & out & of course the nice sized COMMODE rooms 👍🚽
lol man what is the deal with you and the all caps COMMODE thing? Purely curious. Obviously I have plenty of my own weird stuff as well :)
Josh we in our baby steps of camping , never owned one , don't know anything about it . We just started looking . I seen couple other RUclipsrs till I found you're channel . Man you're video's are awesome 👍 . Thank you .
@@antonk1893 TY Man. Share one or two on your socials now and then :)
Fancy! I had a dream last night I bought a trailer from you. You were rocking the blue shirt..... I'll keep the rest of the dream to myself.
_steps away slowly_
now if they add washer dryer prep that would be awesome
You’re not the first to say so! I’ll let them know :)
The expanse is badass!
Really enjoyed it :)
I 💕 Freedom Express.
I just wish they would put w/d hookups in their units. In this model, I would love w/d prep in the bh closet. In your little camper baby, the 252RBS, I would like a combo w/d prep in that huge bathroom cabinet over the outside kitchen.
I love the ventless & carpetless floors, the azdel, the true queen bed, the bedroom setup, the decor, and the curb appeal. Not the best indoor kitchens, but workable. Overall, I really like them, would buy in a hot minute with w/d prep.
I’ll pass it along!!
This floorplan IS l o n g...thank you for another great video today Uncle Josh! Handry 😆😆😆
Facts
6:19 🎶 Pump Up The Jamz (Heat) 🎶 (🔥) 😉
The no access to the other areas while on the road, we’ll if you need a kitchen you can always access the outside kitchen
Yep, though keep in mind that fridge isn't inverted, LP, or 12v so it's not running while rolling
Looking to purchase this model! Can the extra AC be put in the bunkroom?? That room is closed off from the rest of the trailer....also, can I choose another color than black wood everywhere??
I don’t think so. I believe only the bedroom vent is framed and wired for it but one of our folks could certainly check into that for you
Regarding decors: Freedom only uses the one wood paneling currently. We have a similar layout from jayco with two different interior options. Here’s a sample of one m.ruclips.net/video/4fMMkvGs4yg/видео.html
7:51 now THAT slide facia (slide box frame) is GORGEOUS 🤩 & I’d LOVE to see a whole RV in that decor… 👀
*it’s almost wasted in this RV with very dark STORM decor ⛈ 😞
Have you seen the lighter Cloud fabric covering??
@@JoshtheRVNerd // yeppers 👍🏽
Hey josh, another great enthusiastic video. So, I'm here to offer my unsolicited opinion on this model (well, you did ask so I guess it's not that unsolicited LOL).
Likes: can't think of one. Oh wait, the outside kitchen has a sink. Though I kinda like (didn't think I would) that mine DOESN'T have a sink as there is a sprayer connection (hot/cold) right next to it and we dry camp a lot so it is nice to not fill the grey tank when rinsing off grill tools or a pot/pan. Plus without the sink I have a lot more counter space. I have a Flagstaff 529RBS.
Like the theater seating, prefer over a plain couch.
Dislikes: oh man, where do I start. My camper has a similar floorplan but with sides where there are none here. Mine has the door side super slide and the bunk room slide, but also a kitchen slide and wardrobe slide in the master. I don't like how this floorplan is so sandwiched together and they could really have opened it up with at least a kitchen slide. (Look up the floorplan for my model, think the Rockwood 8529BH is the twin, but not sure, there is a twin though, you'll see how much more open it could have been with very little additional weight). Black furniture and cabinets, too dark. The table is nice but the butcher-block look clashes with the rest of the interior. 12V fridge is and always will be a deal killer for me. I know more people who regret going this route and some who 'assumed' they were getting an RV (two-way elec/gas) fridge and are now stuck with dead batteries and spoiled food...even with solar, many people don't know that in reality, they're absolutely NOT going to get more than a few days without having to swap or charge batteries with a generator, so anyone dry camping for longer take note, it's simply not a viable option. And just from the video, it looks like cheap materials were used. Just looks like IKEA put it all together.
Summary, it's too cramped and not boondock-friendly.
I do love that you show 'road mode' as it is a deciding factor for many. At one time it would have been a deal killer for me too but when we were looking at floorplans we found the perfect one, and the only drawback was you can only access the master bedroom and master bathroom while travelling. Ours is more a 'destination' model, but we accepted the tradeoff and couldn't be happier. Happy new year, always looking for your latest vids.
Thanks for sharing your own take on the good, bad, ugly, and in between! I've seen models like yours from Rockwood (The twin you mentioned), Cougar, Salem/Wildwood Heritage Glen/Hemisphere, and and a few others. I Can definitely appreciate the extra space those extra slide provide.
I think Coachmen's idea on this one was to work to keep the weight in check though between the length and weight you still have I feel like this is still easily past that 1/2 ton mark so you haven't really changed the vehicle in the process.
@@JoshtheRVNerd I agree with the 'not half ton' towable aspect, that's why if it had been up to me I would have designed it with at least the kitchen slide. As for the model I have (and the Rockwood twin) do you think you'd have an opportunity to do one of your famous reviews on them? There is hardly anything currently on RUclips or online in general (save for ones for sale with a 30%-40% markup!)? You know people who own a certain model love seeing theirs being shown and I think if more people knew about this floorplan there would be more sold. We absolutely LOVE it. Anyway, thanks for the reply! Bet Coldwater is living up to its name today...LOL. Best to ya.
@@NYVET48TFW I'm a massive Rockwood/Flagstaff fan and would 100% like to get more of them recorded. I definitely hope to capture more models we haven't seen here before
If the outside griddle was in the outside kitchen area,the propane tank itself would have to be moved also. can't plumb gas lines through a slide out.
Can certainly plumb under them, though, as is the case thankfully with most rear gas grill quick connects.
If you could do away with the outside kitchen and have another bunk bed it would be awesome 👌
Actually.. hang on.. try this one bit.ly/2ZBh1cp
I like the layout and the camp kitchen! I don't like the fact that it's not in my driveway. (Not that I could tow it with my vehicle anyway!) 🤣
We have solutions for the thing you don’t like
3:41 less-carpet 🆚 carpet-less = for those RV’s that still have a sniffle (typed “smidge” but autocorrect knew better) of carpet in them, even when not covering the entire bedroom floor or in slide outs‼️😉 *for those who complain if there’s any sign of any carpet anywhere in teh RV = a way to head themn off at the pass 😏
I don’t like those very thin axles on this one they look a little cheap what is the tongue weight on this particular one because I have a 1500 5.3l crew cab 4x4lt, with upgraded suspension to 3/4.
This is the one my bride really likes, the two bedrooms, as well as the bath & a half, not to mention I loooove the double Azdel... but, Holy Smokes on the sticker shock compared to last year's version. Inflation 2022 has officially hit... as big as the Sta-Puff Marshmallow Man taking over New York in the 1980s 😳 😉
Monthly pricing changes have definitely been a sobering reality over this past year
@@JoshtheRVNerd Indeed, I have been following those pricing changes... just not on this model, so my face was pounded with a fist of sticker shock 😂
@@DavidHBurkart It's been shocking across and consistent across the board
But not just in RVs
Vehicles
Boats
Furniture even..
Seems like so many industries are all facing the same issues suddenly
@@JoshtheRVNerd ...don't I know it. These past six months in particular have been sobering to say the least.
We just bought new furniture this past August. I was just grateful to get it within weeks rather than months, even at the inflated pricing
BTW, I am glad to see your video recipes have not been "pressure cooked" by others. Same 'ol Uncle Josh! Good on the Bish family for that!
@@DavidHBurkart Yeah no worries about that. I'm helping the Coldwater Store with its transition to Bish's so I might slip and have a few days coming up here where I can't get something out but I'm trying hard to keep SOMETHING coming out every day for you!
31:48 CorruPlast = Corrugated Plastic (the stuff those yard signs are printed on) 😉
Hey Uncle Josh I was wondering if you could have floor heat ducts put into the floor instead of side ducts in the cabinets?
You cannot. MFGs will not change a system like that by request.
Love the videos and I see this being a potential upgrade from my Sunset Trails 253RB. The only dislikes I have are the TV placement and the off side windows. I prefer the TV to be lower so that it lines up more with normal head height while seated. As far as the windows, I'd like them to be wider with less wall in between. If I can get my wife to go along with the queen bed (10" narrower than our king) this would be an awesome trailer. Well thought out with great features.
Man that 253RB is a GOOD model. I hope she's treated you well
@@JoshtheRVNerd So far so good. Good layout as a temporary living quarters while at work. Will need something bigger to take the family.
Road mode okayor skinny driveway access? Just asking
Virtually none. You can get to the bed and master bath. That’s it. Slide out totally cuts off living
Wish it went true but them’s the facts!
Would love to see a 252RBS offered in a Liberty Edition. Make it happen Josh! :)
I am actually somewhat in the opposite camp surprisingly. I think the “ultra” trim package is pound for pound about the Best Buy out there!
As a camper who does almost all my cooking outdoors on a BBQ under my TT awning, I really love the idea on outdoor kitchens. I would, however, probably never use the external grill if / when located up by the front door - useless and ill-placed in my mind. I would simply leave it at home (or sell it on E-Bay) and stick with my Costco portable BBQ, but preferably far sooner have the older model's grill-in-a-drawer in the outdoor kitchen, or have an external hanging grill right beside the O/D kitchen, to use in conjunction with my trusty Costco BBQ A question for Coachmen: Is or could the older model style Coleman grill-in-a-drawer be an alternative option OR would there be enough room to factory mount a hanging grill on the wall beside the O/D kitchen (even a smaller outside grill!)? This may be a redesign for Coachmen to think about.
Also, I actually had the external grill mount eventually pull off the wall of a Flagstaff Shamrock and it would not structurally-soundly re-attach, so I am not a huge fan of hanging grills to start will.
Everything else is awesome with this TT, as is the review - keep it up - the insights are very much appreciated.
As a thought, what about a bumper mount swing-aroind type grill mount? Seems like that would work pretty well, and this one definitely has the cargo capacity for it!
That Coleman grill they used to use is no longer available. Basically since they're not stocking that part now in this factory we can't get it on their campers. You might still see it on a few Apex models, but that's a different shop and a different team.
It's sort of one of those things that's more obvious if you ever get a chance to visit some facilities. Otherwise you just think "Well go get one from that other building." When you see them working you go "oh.. I get it.. that throws everything off"
@@JoshtheRVNerd good to know. It was just an idea that seemed like it might have worked to get the grill back by the outside kitchen rather than up in the front 20 feet away from the rest of the kitchen. I haven't seen many of them since they were trendy at the RV shows about 10 years ago.
Our Jayco came with one that looks very similar to the one on this trailer. We used it once. It's in an odd location like this one, doesn't have enough BTU output to work well, doesn't like the wind, and takes up a ton of space inside. It's been in our attic for almost a decade.
If you're past the netflix and chill phase they make a little blue pill for that. :)
Like on the Matrix? ;)
OK. I watched the rest of the video. The uuuuutinsel drawer is outside. But, I thought of something else. When you talked about the vent fan, I wondered if a vent fan could be installed in the bunk room.
Not from the factory but with almost no exceptions if there’s a ceiling vent somewhere, then you can usually upfit it for a big vent fan
I like the fact that the underbelly has its own electric fireplace!!
Hmm.. Did I say something that gave you that impression? This one doesn’t have electric belly heating
Propane furnace forced air heating
Check your video at about the 31:10 minute mark when your talking about the forced air heated underbelly, the caption graphic you used was promoting an electric fireplace, lol
@@jeffbarth6041 hahahaha ... whoops :)
Josh is it ok to post a link to my 2020 that i have on consignment with you guys? Just thought if people wanted to one that was new but didn't want pay the new cost. If it not allow I understand that why I ask
If you have it on consignment with one of our stores, then I certainly don't mind.
I’d like to see the griddle or grill attached to the bumper with a swing arm. Great lay out.
It’s funny how a ton of campers used to do that, but you rarely see it anymore..
I would keep the theater seats. A hide-a-bed sofa will be very close to cutting that doorway off.
Kinda my thought as well
Ty!
Grip + traction = gription. I'm all for making one word out of 2 as long as it has the same intended meaning. 🤣
Love it. Make it so!
Nice pantry storage and like the space and full queen in the bedroom. Thats the best bunk house with it's own 1/2 bath. The main bath is very nice with lots of " Fluffy space" and the shower still a decent size. Like the built in laundry " Handry" the camp kitchen and grill area apart weird but not a deal breaker and the large fan in bathroom is great. I like the drawers under the dinette seats and kitchen counter area for a smaller RV is not bad. But besides thinking they too need to put in a built in slash guard against the sidewalls, frig area etc... And this being constantly said why haven't these manufacturers done this. What is there answer?
They all say the same thing “it’s hard for production”
Nobody can ever give me a better answer Than that though
@@JoshtheRVNerd let's say I have my doubts about that.
@@stevenkaskus6173 I still need convincing myself buddy.
Very nice! You had me at 60x80 real queen bed and heated theater seats! I like the kitchen but you are right about a corner lazy Susan. It would maximize storage and prevent the pretzel twisting access. Very nice bathroom. I don't need a bunkhouse; is there a non-bunkhouse model with the residential queen and theatre seats?
You bet!! See here m.ruclips.net/video/170xnFqsK0A/видео.html
@@JoshtheRVNerd I did see this a month ago and raved about it. The only thing I would change is make it a rectangular shower but at least it isn't a tub! Question as some just edumicating myself about RVing, can the camp kitchen fridge be used in transit to hold enough for a lunch/snack fixings and beverages for a quick test area stop? Also,in your next edumicating opportunity, can you explain the countertop materials use in RV's? I have heard solid surface (presumably a Corian-type material) vs. the more common other material (maybe called foil sealed?)? Does the common countertop have a greater moisture issue? Is the solid surface a worthwhile upgrade? (I realize it is probably packaged in with other features or as in this case, part of this line.). Just a question I am sure you can answer during a future TV review of one of the models you feature. Thanks!
@@rosemarydoran9907 the camp kitchen fridge on this one doesn't operate in transit as it's a 110-only fridge (not propane or 12v compressor). So it could definitely hold plenty of lunch-stuff, but it's not necessarily running while you're rolling (Unless you add a little inverter).
*COUNTER TOPS:* 3 Main Types used:
→ T-Molded: Has Seams. Water can get into them if not wiped up. Can cause swelling around those seams.
→ Sealed Edge (aka thermofoil): Made with the same material, but the top layer is actually formed down around the particle board core to seal it from water intrusion. Less costly than solid surface and usually a bit lighter with many of the same benefits
→ Solid Surface: Actually a high density plastic btw. Shiny and usually "looks" the best. But heavier and more expensive.
@@JoshtheRVNerd thank you for taking the time to explain this fridge wouldn't run in transit w/o solar support. I figured it was something like that or you would have suggested that. Thanks for explaining the countertop situation! Very helpful! Thanks for always replying to my comments/questions! It is appreciated!!
Nice camper! Will you guys be at the MARVAC rv show in Novi?
I've heard rumors one of our Michigan facilities may be present at that event but I need to confirm. Stay tuned!
Is it 100% practical no but does it work heck yeah. I definitely like this interior I was nervous when I saw the 274rks this definitely works for me. I do feel a second ac is a must because of the 3 separate rooms and length. I do think there's gonna be a picnic table problem tho as many times we found it doesn't fit width wise with the slide as it hangs of the pad and such. Great unit tho overall👍👍
Yeah sometimes the slide + awning length is a bit much for some campgrounds. Good thinking
Nice
Thanks! What's your favorite part of it, William?
It's missing the utensil draw inside :(
Yeah.. but at least it has one in that sweet camp kitchen!
Let's look on the positive side, at least you can still go pee And tell the kids to take a nap in travel mode. You can always go get a quick bite to eat somewhere else.
Roller Gate, another Woodward and Bernstein discovery?
Is this an all weather RV?
Not trying to be difficult but no rv is “all weather”
These are extended season. Unless it stays below freezing for a while you’re fine
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thank you. I'll be living in it year round and was nervous about a central US winter.
@@jennjenn8678 What region? Different areas get wildly different heat/cold patterns obviously.
@@JoshtheRVNerd Missouri
21:20 🔦🤨❗️📖🔥💥
😂
Are you getting Minnie's again ?
My channel here is kind of disconnecting from the local dealership level to some degree. I don’t know if that’s a plan for the coldwater store right now as I shift more to videos more exclusively
Not a fan of the grill being in front of the slide, yes its right outside the door but its away from stuff you will have in the outside kitchen.
32:46 🤦🏽♂️ 🤨
What!? A Freedom Express without a uuuuuuuutinsel drawer? What's with that?
At least there's one outside!
29:45 DON’T CROSS THE STREAMS (AXLES)‼️ 👻🚫 #GhostBusters 🍿
Basically that
Because if you do you’ll be left with a crappy situation
@@JoshtheRVNerd // 😆🤣😂😅💩😛😝😜🤪
The slide being between the griddle and the kitchen is a deal breaker for me. That's just dumb imo.
It wasn't my favorite arrangement either
Better do some damage control before you lose a Franchise.
Sorry? I guess I'm not quite following. Could you clarify, Mike?
I mean an emergency potty break is all u need to access on the road! Doesn’t bother me!
But man trying to figure out if could handle the weight! I have F150 and we got it for towing current trailer. All research and talking to ford says 12000! Already wanted to bag it and already have weight distribution hitch! Bet I’d be good to go!