I dont have horses, but i love horses. Maybe someday ill be able to afford one. But i still found this very informative. I always wondered about the different bits. I like that you made it pretty easy for anyone to understand.
Hey Jake, Tom White here. You may not remember me, but we met in the spring 2007 at the Florida Parelli Center back when Jessie, Don, Rachel, and Kristy where teaching. I was usually with Sam Caporn riding the unicycle around campus. Nice seeing that you're doing well. Keep up the good work. Great info, your thoughts on transitioning from rope halter to 1/2 basal is what I've found works best as well. Some horses get a comfort snaffle in between. I follow Buck Brannaman and that's his process. Then from half inch bosel into the two rein seems to work for me. Another thing that helps is, after a lesson with a horse I'll tie them to a picket line, so they can't drop their head too far, with a spade bit or halfbreed mouthpiece without reins to get them comfortable with it without me distracting them. They can play with it and learn how to carry it. In my experience this has worked very well and I wish I'd done it sooner. Anyway, I just wanted to say hi and it's good to see you on RUclips.
Thank for explaining the levage and spade bits. I never understood how the spade worked. I don't care for the 2 piece snaffle because of how harsh they can be on the mouth. I usually use a multi piece snaffle. But a wise horseman once told me that any bit is only as harsh as the hands that are using it.
Just found your channel and I really enjoy your content and education style. Thank you for sharing your wisdom. Its refreshing to see such a simple, straight forward tack selection. I am working to transition my 6yo gelding quarter horse to the bridle this summer (not a spade bit). If you were making a bridle horse but weren't taking them all the way to the spade what would be your ideal cheek and mouth piece? I saw the san juaquin mouth in the background but you also mentioned that you aren't a fan of toungue relief. Just curious if you have time to answer. In regards to the snaffle I have been using Pat Puckett's Missing Link Snaffle and have really enjoyed it. Seems like a bit you might be interested in? best, Dan
I’ll have to look it up. Personally I love a Santa Barbara for the look, and it keeps them from getting the cheek in their mouth if they are playful like that. The vaquero mouth piece I think it’s called from Jeremiah Watt is really nice. I like getting horses used to a leverage but with a basic comfort snaffle mouth piece and little shank that myler sells. I just got one that’s the same just nicer from Tom Balding. I just shared a pic on my instagram. Mona Lisa can be one horses like a lot too.
@@peartreeranch Thank you for your reply, I appreciate the information. I too love the look of the Santa Barbara cheek. Happy to hear you recommend Jeremiah Watt products. His bits seem like the perfect blend of quality and affordability with lots of cheek and mouth piece options. I've had my eye on his Nevada Half breed mouth piece but I will need to look into the vaquero mouth. Looking forward to taking my horse to the bridal and learning with him as we go along. thanks, Dan
I have my 12 y/o still somewhat green broke in the same myler. He likes that bit however sometimes i feel he is pushing thru or not getting a clear signal (counter bending or not staying on the rail). Would using slobber straps help? Myler said to try a correction bit but i only see most w shanks
The counter bending and not staying on the rail is more of a picture into the mind versus miscommunication with the bit. The bit could cause the miscommunication, but I’d put my energy into making sure the release of your pressure is when the horse is on the rail or the nose is to the inside or when the softness you want is there. Also using your legs to support the bit is a big part of helping the softness be there.
@@peartreeranch I’m going to keep added it just seems like when I give him the release weather at a walk or a trot after he stayed on the rail for a little bit he sometimes falls in and it’s nowhere near the gate so I don’t know why he does it
@@peartreeranch i would love if you did! I’m here in FL too so hoping to get up to one of your clinics eventually! I tried again today and we are still having a miscommunication somewhere
Depends on age of the horse, for mouth development, but it’s a few year process to get to a straight up bridle horse. A lot of times people say a year in each stage, hackamore, two rein then straight up in the bridle.
@@peartreeranch Thank you for your Reply... Your answer requires another 2 questions... How soon can a colt be started under Saddle ? and how much weight (max) can a Colt carry Safely ,?
I dont have horses, but i love horses. Maybe someday ill be able to afford one. But i still found this very informative. I always wondered about the different bits. I like that you made it pretty easy for anyone to understand.
@@deedaw9246 thank you! Glad you enjoyed and learned something
Very interesting! Loved your explanation of the spades and hackamores.
Thank you!
Hey Jake, Tom White here. You may not remember me, but we met in the spring 2007 at the Florida Parelli Center back when Jessie, Don, Rachel, and Kristy where teaching. I was usually with Sam Caporn riding the unicycle around campus. Nice seeing that you're doing well. Keep up the good work. Great info, your thoughts on transitioning from rope halter to 1/2 basal is what I've found works best as well. Some horses get a comfort snaffle in between. I follow Buck Brannaman and that's his process. Then from half inch bosel into the two rein seems to work for me. Another thing that helps is, after a lesson with a horse I'll tie them to a picket line, so they can't drop their head too far, with a spade bit or halfbreed mouthpiece without reins to get them comfortable with it without me distracting them. They can play with it and learn how to carry it. In my experience this has worked very well and I wish I'd done it sooner. Anyway, I just wanted to say hi and it's good to see you on RUclips.
I know this is a old video but maybe you will see this. Can you take each bit and show on a horse what it does? Your so good at teaching.
Sounds like a great idea! Thanks for watching and the suggestion.
Thank for explaining the levage and spade bits. I never understood how the spade worked. I don't care for the 2 piece snaffle because of how harsh they can be on the mouth. I usually use a multi piece snaffle. But a wise horseman once told me that any bit is only as harsh as the hands that are using it.
Only as harsh as the hands that hold them for sure. Glad you enjoyed!
Love your gear! ‘Pear’d😀’ down to the important essentials
Just found your channel and I really enjoy your content and education style. Thank you for sharing your wisdom. Its refreshing to see such a simple, straight forward tack selection. I am working to transition my 6yo gelding quarter horse to the bridle this summer (not a spade bit). If you were making a bridle horse but weren't taking them all the way to the spade what would be your ideal cheek and mouth piece? I saw the san juaquin mouth in the background but you also mentioned that you aren't a fan of toungue relief. Just curious if you have time to answer.
In regards to the snaffle I have been using Pat Puckett's Missing Link Snaffle and have really enjoyed it. Seems like a bit you might be interested in?
best,
Dan
I’ll have to look it up. Personally I love a Santa Barbara for the look, and it keeps them from getting the cheek in their mouth if they are playful like that. The vaquero mouth piece I think it’s called from Jeremiah Watt is really nice. I like getting horses used to a leverage but with a basic comfort snaffle mouth piece and little shank that myler sells. I just got one that’s the same just nicer from Tom Balding. I just shared a pic on my instagram. Mona Lisa can be one horses like a lot too.
@@peartreeranch Thank you for your reply, I appreciate the information. I too love the look of the Santa Barbara cheek. Happy to hear you recommend Jeremiah Watt products. His bits seem like the perfect blend of quality and affordability with lots of cheek and mouth piece options. I've had my eye on his Nevada Half breed mouth piece but I will need to look into the vaquero mouth. Looking forward to taking my horse to the bridal and learning with him as we go along.
thanks,
Dan
Good stuff, makes me have more questions...LOL
Good!
I have my 12 y/o still somewhat green broke in the same myler. He likes that bit however sometimes i feel he is pushing thru or not getting a clear signal (counter bending or not staying on the rail). Would using slobber straps help? Myler said to try a correction bit but i only see most w shanks
The counter bending and not staying on the rail is more of a picture into the mind versus miscommunication with the bit. The bit could cause the miscommunication, but I’d put my energy into making sure the release of your pressure is when the horse is on the rail or the nose is to the inside or when the softness you want is there. Also using your legs to support the bit is a big part of helping the softness be there.
@@peartreeranch I’m going to keep added it just seems like when I give him the release weather at a walk or a trot after he stayed on the rail for a little bit he sometimes falls in and it’s nowhere near the gate so I don’t know why he does it
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Sounds like we need a video about teaching follow the rail and the few different ways we can do it!
@@peartreeranch i would love if you did! I’m here in FL too so hoping to get up to one of your clinics eventually! I tried again today and we are still having a miscommunication somewhere
Typically how long will it take a smart horse with an Intelligent rider to get from Hakamore too well Balanced spade bit ,?
Depends on age of the horse, for mouth development, but it’s a few year process to get to a straight up bridle horse. A lot of times people say a year in each stage, hackamore, two rein then straight up in the bridle.
@@peartreeranch
Thank you for your Reply...
Your answer requires another 2 questions...
How soon can a colt be started under Saddle ? and how much weight (max) can a Colt carry Safely ,?