Apart from smog / fumes etc. and other VOC (Volatile Organic Compounds) one of the big benefits is that this should also capture Radon (a bit contributor in some locations to lung cancer even if you don't smoke, it is literally everywhere in various levels as it is radioactive decay from radium in rocks etc). If you pre-filter out the tiny dust with HEPA the activated carbon should last 6-12 months between replacement as a rough schedule, and it is relatively cheap to just buy loose. There is no reason to rinse the activated carbon btw, just shake it through netting / sieve to eliminate the small dust sized carbon particles, and dispose of those in the garden etc. which prevents mess with larger intact particles. By rinsing it you're filling the pores with water and that will take a fairly long time to dry out again.
Really good idea, simple and made with readily available materials. You can even make your own activated charcoal out of the ashes from your wood stove. One improvement would be adding a seal going from the top of the inner bucket to the side of the outer one so the air will be drawn into the center of the inner bucket.
Have had plans for a similar filter, for a painting hood, for small, hobby spray painting, indoors. Found them around 15 -20 years ago. Been wanting to build it since, but never pulled the trigger. This bucket design is far better than what I found back then. Will be using premade carbon filters, from Home Depot, 200 filter pieces, each one 6.5 in. x 10 in. x 1 in., for $22.36/set of 200! No washing required, no dust. Will use a standard, fiberglass furnace filter, to capture the paint particulates, first, then push the fumes through this bucket with the carbon filters. Will just line the bucket with these -- no mesh screen required. Should be fast and easy to replace the filters, too. Will need to experiment as it may require more than a single layer of carbon filter to capture all of the chemical fumes, but at this price, I won't care! Thanks for the video. Cheers!
Smoke test would show the draw strength through all the holes. Would less holes on the top half of the outer bucket and the lower half of the inner bucket force air through a thicker layer of the carbon medium? The trade off may be less area to pull air in. This looks fantastic for air cleaning. Just wondering if the air can be more directly channeled within the space between the buckets. Well done man!
comes down to flow rate . no matter what size you use . not enough air , youll be smelling it . too much air youll also smell it as the air moves too fast through the canister for the carbon to catch the particles . remember . smell is particles , whatever goes past the carbon comes out as smell . so you need to just get enough air flow to utilise the carbon . smoke is a good test as you can see and smell if its working right .
They sell these for pot growers and they are way overpriced, your idea is awesome. Good diy skills. If you need more power you could find some larger/longer tubing and do the same thing, and use an inline fan built for ducting for more cfm. I am making my own for my next grow room that will be like 7 feet tall and have like 50lb carbon in it. The only suggestion i have is use a cotton or some other breathable fabric material around the unit to keep it clean, then you can just vaccum/ wash the material or replace it after it picks up too much dust/dirt if you run it in a dirtier environment.
How about making the holes that are lower down larger and the holes above smaller so that the air will pull through all the carbon eavenly.I am thinking it will pull hardest from the holes closest to the fan.Not sure if my sense is correct or will even make a difference.
Another twist you might like to try would be using natural hardwood charcoal bits. Either store bought *no igniters* just hunks of totally charred wood OR watch some videos on making biochar ( but mainly focus on the char part for this)
Great video! About to fashion one of these together real quick. Lol, I kind of face palmed when you cut the screen into 3rds, because I would have totally tried to put it in there with one piece and made it all wonky (done similar projects in the past). I probably would have never even thought to do that. Sometimes it's the smallest, seemingly most-obvious, things that you just don't think about. Helped my dad put together a storage locker awhile back (he's built things his whole life, I'm only a few years in, he knows much more than me)... and he explains to me the problem he is currently facing and can't figure out a solution for. I look for a second and say "Just lay it down, instead of having it stood up. That way you can access those screws easier." He looked at me and burst out laughing, because he realized how obvious that solution was. Just think it's funny how that happens from time to time, especially in DIY/building. Sometimes it's just good to have another set of eyes.
This is a few years later. To smooth out the holes, get a large cotter pin, slip a long strip of sand paper in between the legs, chuck the cotter pin on the drill and it will take less effort and time to deburr the holes.
impressive. i was looking for a simple one like this on the market, where you can supply your own carbon instead of buying proprietary filters, but this seems a much better option
hi and thanks! companies love to sell you the filters so they can make 'residuals'. i think they make more on selling the filters than they do on the unit itself. bulk activated carbon is dirt cheap these days. DIY is the way to go
So I'm thinking of sorta doing this in reverse for venting paint fumes from a small airbrush booth. From the booth, through the pipe, to a fan and into that bucket. What do you think?
I now have the materials I need to build the air purifier. It'll be used in conjunction with my radon mitigation that's been installed but the radon levels still go as high as 24.0 on my radon monitor in the basement during the winter months, I have a radon monitor in the basement and one upstairs. The readings upstairs are usually within the safe radon level. I was wondering if the holes in the outer bucket needs to be aligned with the holes in the inner bucket and if the inner bucket needs to be sealed to the underside of the bucket lid? This design is a lot less expensive than the $1000 air purifier units that uses carbon pellets for controlling radon. Thanks for the video, hope you have some follow-ups on this air purifier!
I hate smelling coffee or the cooking in my parent's kitchen. I blocked off the supply and return vents in my bedroom and built a two way cylinder version of this (two water bottles glued together) and hooked it up to my window. It had to be purified air because my mom smokes cigarettes like a chimney. I'm definitely gonna do this with my own room when I move out with roommates because I like my bedroom to smell and sound peaceful.
Very clever. Have you done a test with visible smoke? I’m interested in doing something like this next to an outdoor wood fired oven, to cut down on amount of smoke that spews out when first getting it going. Thoughts?
How do you make gravel and sand stay in place? Do you glue gravel to the bottom with hot glue gun? I can buy 5lbs of aquarium gravel from Petco for $5. If you tip it to one side then wouldn't it fall over and spill all over the place?. How would you guys do it? Is gluing stone to plastic possible? Help!!. Thanks
Cool video, but one issue I am having and it's the cost of good granulated carbon. A 4" filter for a 2x4 / 3x3 grow room uses around 4lbs of carbon. It doesn't cost much more to just buy a whole new filter. I can get carbon pellets for pretty cheap, but it's a huge hassle breaking them up into smaller pieces.
was the fan facing inside the bucket or the outside? the angle of the physical fan makes it seem like the air is blowing into the bucket. but wanted to confirm
Thanks so much for this! I've tried loads of filters with tiny amounts of carbon but they weren't much use. This looks like the answer to a prayer. I do have a question, though if you have time to answer: I thought of putting layers of cardboard in the base instead of gravel - would this be a fire hazard or something? Sorry if it's a stupid question - I'm 70 and not used to DIY!
Do you seal smaller pail to the fan, so all the air is filtered thru the screen. It seems it would make it slightly more affective, but maybe not worth the difference in build difficulty?!?!?
Great idea. If hepa filter were added( cylinder type used in Vacuum cleaner) then it will be easily worth $200 dollars. Have you experience any carbon dust? And I am hoping to use centrifugal fan( those used in blower so air vent os on the side). And hoping I can control air power settings( high, medium, low). Anyone knows how to do that, please let me know.
Didn't show a smoke test so I'm assuming no. He would have had to tamp down the activated carbon to pack it fuller to be more effective at filtering smoke, but would decrease the airflow he was achieving. Good idea in theory though. I think if you had a smoke filled room and let it circulate a long while it would clear it. Weigh the amount of carbon placed and the bucket before, then run it in the smoke room and weigh it after and you can get an idea of how much it's filtering. Do it on a tile floor and you'll see how much settles as well. Again, great idea in theory for a DIY.
i love the idea of making an activated charcoal filter to filter the smoke of making activated charcoal, fuelled by "spent" or "soiled" activated charcoal as well as heat recovery/recycling from the process itself.
Im building one of these as soon as i get my fan in the mail. Does the fan push the air too quick? Ive read that slower air flow is more effective at cleaning, THX
Looking to filter out fumes from a 3D printer. The printer will be in an enclosure and I'll pull air out and run it through, I'm thinking, a 6" pvc pipe filled with the carbon. Really nice info. Thanks!
Ok, I am going to build one of these for smoking cigars in my garage this winter. If I can eliminate the need to suck air out through a window when it's -20 Fahrenheit, I'll be a happy camper. 2 questions: 1). Is it really necessary to wash out the carbon dust? I would think every little bit of activated charcoal would help. 2). I'd be very curious how this would compare to the $600.00 "Rabbit Air MinusA2", which sounds like it does an excellent job at getting rid of the smoke smell. You used a lot more charcoal than their filter holds. I may wrap a pre-filter material around the whole thing. I know my garage is dusty and a pre-filter may keep the charcoal a bit "cleaner", along with eliminating dust as well. Excellent instructional video, I can't wait to try it out!!
The dust would blow right through your screen and fan. I'm thinking about making one in a one inch thick, 20 x 20 square, then putting a micro filtration furnace filter on it, and putting it on the back side of a box fan. That might eliminate the need for washing and drying.
I just finished mine. The fan on high blows pretty good when not on the 5 gallon pail, but really blows less once the cover is on. I caulked the fan to the cover so all air flow is going through the carbon (no air bypassing the carbon). Hopefully there is enough draw. I’ll light up a cigar soon and test it out.
Epic fail. I used an 8” Turbo fan. Doesn’t have enough air flow to draw smoke through the carbon. I put my cigar right next to the holes and the smoke flows straight up beside the pail. Going to have to try a more powerful fan.
@@D-Allen Hey if you already built it you should look into a inline fan with a fan controller. They are a little noisey but they will suck through the filter no problem. You can also get inline carbon filters already made. Saw a video of a guy that bought a 4inch inline carbon filter plus a inline 4 inch fan then took a 4 inch hepa filter for those shop vacs and they work well for weed smoke tobbaco smoke and for people around the wild fires. Also they sell mufflers to make those fans quieter aswell.
hi there and thanks. it all depends on how much you use it and how dirty the air is. from a couple of months to several years if you don't use it that much.
Activated carbon can last for more than a year, sometimes up to two years. It fails when exposes to 60% RH, or when the carbon gets too old. You will notice the odor returning at that point.
Good question! I'm sure you would have to change it, eventually. Just like in the military, our carbon canisters would need to be changed periodically. Not sure how often, though. Only used my mask in the gas chambers a few times. Never had to change them.
My upstairs neighbor smokes and it seeps into my apartment and gives me horrible headaches. I can't afford an expensive air filtration system. Do you think this would help with my problem?
OK so I'm crafty and love a good DIY but I don't have any understanding of anything electrical.... so I'll probably sound stupid asking this question but why hook this up to a battery? Could I make one and just plug it in to a electrical outlet? Or your purpose was to make this portable?
Using glue to get the screen on is probably the hardest part of this project. Once i got there I have stopped. Anymore suggestions to getting the screen to stay besides school glue?
Does anyone know if you can use regular carbon ? Purified carbon is hard to get where I live but not charcoal from fires. I guess I would have to wash it and then crush it. But not sure if it will work
I built this, and it’s awesome!! But the fan I have is a 6” AC fan clip on style… and it doesn’t circulate the air through well. can someone provide a link to a n effective AC fan for this build? Thank you
for some reason the AC clip fans are usually much weaker than the DC ones. i'm not sure which AC fan might be best (i'll leave that for other commenters) but one thing you could do is use a DC clip fan (like i did) but power it with AC (using an ac/dc transformer). amazon has tons of those transformers. some are as cheap as 5 to 8 bucks.
@@desertsun02 I took a second bucket lid and 12V DC radiator fan off Amazon. Used a 12V, 12.5A LED Driver to power it, however it is very noisy, kind of like having a vacuum on. Is there a way to run the fan at 3/4 the speed its at now?
Do you need any sort of specific way to modulate the AC to DC to control fan speed? Is whatever speed the fan will spin at acceptable, if I plug it right into an AC to 12V DC adapter off Amazon?
hi. i use one made by roypow. it puts out 12v 15a. that is more than enough and it's held up for years. you can find it on amazon. (just search roypow 12v 15a)
Thanks for the video.. Why do you rinse the charcoal so thoroughly? Have you tried this setup with a quick soaking? I just don't get why you would use up so much of the adsorption affect on the water
@Brian Z when you buy it it has a lot of charcoal dust in it. that's a very fine dust that you need to rinse off. ideally you will rise it with clean water so it won't affect the life of the charcoal very much. i wish they sold it rinsed but they don't seem to.
hi. i did a quick search and don't see the exact links but i can tell you the smaller fan is an "auto expressions" fan sold at walmart (in their auto dept) and the larger fan is just a generic car radiator fan (7" one). it was sold by a company called 'most plus' *if i remember right (but amazon sells lots of different ones).
the fan doesn't have to be a particularly strong one for this. both types of fans i show in the video work good. the only fans that probably won't work well are computer case fans and the weaker desk fans.
hi there. how often you change the charcoal will depend a lot on how much you use it and how thick or saturated the 'smell in the air is'. i expect to have to change it every few months... but so far i'm still on the original stuff and it's working great. it's a clear and noticeable change in the air as the odor is being eliminated.
Hey could you please send a link of the fan you used for this? This is so sweet btw, I have searched for a long time for a good carbon scrubber but they are so expensive at hundreds of dollars or poor quality and end up breaking. This seems so cost effective and durable its not even funny.
hi and thanks. the links for those fans change often so i can't find the exact link, but if you search for 7 inch car radiator fans on amazon you should see a lot of them.
hi. i get those fans on amazon. (they sell the smaller one at walmart too). i haven't thought on adding a HEPA filter (but there are several ways to add extra filtering)
@@desertsun02 I am assuming the width of the six inch fan is six inches . Have you thought of putting a HEPA filter on the top so air will flow through that and if so have you found one that will fit?
My question is how to get affordable activated carbon that’s also good quality so it will work well; Amazon seems to be loaded with crap that doesn’t work, and it seems that some stuff that works in aquarium filters doesn’t work well for odor removal. Any suggestions, anyone?
hi it's not very loud. the cameras microphone makes it sound louder than it is. it's just going to depend on which type and size of fan you use and how fast you run it. it's only loud if you use the car radiator fan and run it on full or high speed. the other fan is relatively quiet. actually the radiator fan is no louder than a box fan if you run it at about 75% speed. and at 50% speed you can barely hear it (and that's still a lot of airflow). but it really depends on the fan. one trick (to soften the sound) is to set a piece of pipe over the fan (like an 8" elbow). you should be able to just drop it on (over the fan) like i do in other videos (in those vids i use the elbow piece to direct the air). the pipe (elbow) acts as a muffler and works amazingly well. or avoid that and buy a quiet fan 🙂
Great job but I have a bunch of questions I hope you can help with. Im building the same thing on "steriods"...LOL First, what kind of scree n did you use that will contain the charcoal and not let it get sucked thru and into the air stream. I don't want to turn this thing on and blast charcoal powder all over the place. Second, where did you get the bag charcoal and what particle size is it. If the particles are smaller than the screen you going to get blow thru...that means charcoal in the air....which will make more of a mess than it actually cleans over time. I have an axial loaded blower, I plan to use a pre-filter like you did then run it thru the charcoal bank and then into a Merv 13 final filter. If the charcoal leaks thru the screen into the air flow the Merv 13 filter will be plugged up in a matter of minutes.... Hope you can help.
Please put the headlines video in English or Spanish.........I need that device , I live on a main avenue with a lot of car smoke this pollution affects my breathing all the time ,thank you ...
Hey, so why didn’t you just buy a standard sheet of activate carbon prefilter and line the inside of one bucket with that? Is using whole carbon somehow more effective bc of the thickness?
hi. i'm sorry you are sick and i hope you start feeling better soon. i don't make the projects i just show how to make them. maybe a friend or neighbor could help you.
hi. the smaller fans are probably 200-300 cfm. the 7" car radiator fans can be anywhere from 600 cfm to up to 1500 cfm! if you want to adjust the speed, amazon sells simple (10 dollar) motor speed controllers.
How often do you have to change the activated carbon? Amazing project by the way! I have been trying to be creative and make my own, but probably will copy your idea :) ty!
hi there. that varies quite a bit - depends a lot on how much you use the unit (and how dirty the air is). a few months (maybe 5) with heavy usage to a few years (if you don't use it much).
@@desertsun02 Thank you for the reply, I didn't see it til now. I wanna build one or 2 like yours for weed smell in my room and also to purify the air. I wonder where you bought your fans?
I know this comment is kind of old, but if anyone else has the same problem, you can use nylon or another type of thin, stretchy, breathable cloth. I think smaller grains work better to immediately remove odors anyway, so that is my plan.
do you know that it works perfectly fine without the fan ? You simply have to make a flat version of what is made on this video. It is called passive air filter. Of course there is less volume of air trated by hour but you can make a bigger one to compensate.
hi. if interested, i have a video of a flat passive one as well. that one is usually mounted in a window. can be used with a window fan for more airflow
Apart from smog / fumes etc. and other VOC (Volatile Organic Compounds) one of the big benefits is that this should also capture Radon (a bit contributor in some locations to lung cancer even if you don't smoke, it is literally everywhere in various levels as it is radioactive decay from radium in rocks etc). If you pre-filter out the tiny dust with HEPA the activated carbon should last 6-12 months between replacement as a rough schedule, and it is relatively cheap to just buy loose.
There is no reason to rinse the activated carbon btw, just shake it through netting / sieve to eliminate the small dust sized carbon particles, and dispose of those in the garden etc. which prevents mess with larger intact particles. By rinsing it you're filling the pores with water and that will take a fairly long time to dry out again.
Works like an absolute charm! Couldn’t believe it
Really good idea, simple and made with readily available materials. You can even make your own activated charcoal out of the ashes from your wood stove. One improvement would be adding a seal going from the top of the inner bucket to the side of the outer one so the air will be drawn into the center of the inner bucket.
Ashes aren't carbon. They may contain carbon, but you need chunks of burned wood, aka "charcoal" to make activated carbon Ashes are mostly dust.
Have had plans for a similar filter, for a painting hood, for small, hobby spray painting, indoors. Found them around 15 -20 years ago. Been wanting to build it since, but never pulled the trigger. This bucket design is far better than what I found back then. Will be using premade carbon filters, from Home Depot, 200 filter pieces, each one 6.5 in. x 10 in. x 1 in., for $22.36/set of 200! No washing required, no dust. Will use a standard, fiberglass furnace filter, to capture the paint particulates, first, then push the fumes through this bucket with the carbon filters. Will just line the bucket with these -- no mesh screen required. Should be fast and easy to replace the filters, too. Will need to experiment as it may require more than a single layer of carbon filter to capture all of the chemical fumes, but at this price, I won't care! Thanks for the video. Cheers!
Be prepared for that to be a 20pk & not 200 as HD's listing incorrectly states.
Smoke test would show the draw strength through all the holes. Would less holes on the top half of the outer bucket and the lower half of the inner bucket force air through a thicker layer of the carbon medium? The trade off may be less area to pull air in. This looks fantastic for air cleaning. Just wondering if the air can be more directly channeled within the space between the buckets. Well done man!
comes down to flow rate . no matter what size you use . not enough air , youll be smelling it . too much air youll also smell it as the air moves too fast through the canister for the carbon to catch the particles . remember . smell is particles , whatever goes past the carbon comes out as smell . so you need to just get enough air flow to utilise the carbon . smoke is a good test as you can see and smell if its working right .
I agree
Great idea! You “red necked” the hell out of that. Looks store bought! Great job!
hi there and thanks! i tried to make this one look as slick as possible (good as a 5 gallon bucket can look anyway)
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They sell these for pot growers and they are way overpriced, your idea is awesome. Good diy skills. If you need more power you could find some larger/longer tubing and do the same thing, and use an inline fan built for ducting for more cfm. I am making my own for my next grow room that will be like 7 feet tall and have like 50lb carbon in it. The only suggestion i have is use a cotton or some other breathable fabric material around the unit to keep it clean, then you can just vaccum/ wash the material or replace it after it picks up too much dust/dirt if you run it in a dirtier environment.
How about making the holes that are lower down larger and the holes above smaller so that the air will pull through all the carbon eavenly.I am thinking it will pull hardest from the holes closest to the fan.Not sure if my sense is correct or will even make a difference.
Another twist you might like to try would be using natural hardwood charcoal bits. Either store bought *no igniters* just hunks of totally charred wood OR watch some videos on making biochar ( but mainly focus on the char part for this)
Thank you!
Radiator fans are great for so many projects😎
Great video! About to fashion one of these together real quick.
Lol, I kind of face palmed when you cut the screen into 3rds, because I would have totally tried to put it in there with one piece and made it all wonky (done similar projects in the past). I probably would have never even thought to do that. Sometimes it's the smallest, seemingly most-obvious, things that you just don't think about.
Helped my dad put together a storage locker awhile back (he's built things his whole life, I'm only a few years in, he knows much more than me)... and he explains to me the problem he is currently facing and can't figure out a solution for.
I look for a second and say "Just lay it down, instead of having it stood up. That way you can access those screws easier."
He looked at me and burst out laughing, because he realized how obvious that solution was.
Just think it's funny how that happens from time to time, especially in DIY/building. Sometimes it's just good to have another set of eyes.
So true and you only know that if you know 👌👌👀😉😉
Thanks for this video. I never thought of rinsing the carbon. Big thumbs up! sorry i could only like once :)
This is a few years later. To smooth out the holes, get a large cotter pin, slip a long strip of sand paper in between the legs, chuck the cotter pin on the drill and it will take less effort and time to deburr the holes.
hey there. is an interesting idea. i've used sanding attachments on a rotary tool with some luck recently.
Will this work for VOC's?
impressive. i was looking for a simple one like this on the market, where you can supply your own carbon instead of buying proprietary filters, but this seems a much better option
hi and thanks! companies love to sell you the filters so they can make 'residuals'. i think they make more on selling the filters than they do on the unit itself. bulk activated carbon is dirt cheap these days. DIY is the way to go
@desertsun02 even cheaper if you have a wood stove ;)
@@beyondtheillusion333 even the ones you buy in store come from wood, they can also be made activated with some lemons and a bit of time.
I have a really expensive unit but had to stop by and watch. Love the project! Great job on the video.
So I'm thinking of sorta doing this in reverse for venting paint fumes from a small airbrush booth. From the booth, through the pipe, to a fan and into that bucket. What do you think?
Can you show us how you mount the fan with the motor part facing downwards and the cut-out considerations?
Did you measure the VOCs before and after to see how effective it was?
You can use a step drill bit from Harbor Freight, drills clean, burr-less holes in plastic & metal.
Dang!!! I used a blade bit and it was a slight PITA, I have 2 step bits and I never thought of using them!!!!!
I now have the materials I need to build the air purifier. It'll be used in conjunction with my radon mitigation that's been installed but the radon levels still go as high as 24.0 on my radon monitor in the basement during the winter months, I have a radon monitor in the basement and one upstairs. The readings upstairs are usually within the safe radon level.
I was wondering if the holes in the outer bucket needs to be aligned with the holes in the inner bucket and if the inner bucket needs to be sealed to the underside of the bucket lid?
This design is a lot less expensive than the $1000 air purifier units that uses carbon pellets for controlling radon.
Thanks for the video, hope you have some follow-ups on this air purifier!
Turn the water off when not using it Also do you think you could put a Hepa filter in/on there somewhere?
I hate smelling coffee or the cooking in my parent's kitchen. I blocked off the supply and return vents in my bedroom and built a two way cylinder version of this (two water bottles glued together) and hooked it up to my window. It had to be purified air because my mom smokes cigarettes like a chimney. I'm definitely gonna do this with my own room when I move out with roommates because I like my bedroom to smell and sound peaceful.
Very clever. Have you done a test with visible smoke? I’m interested in doing something like this next to an outdoor wood fired oven, to cut down on amount of smoke that spews out when first getting it going. Thoughts?
I'm here doing about the same thing. I have a wood stove I want to filter.
How do you make gravel and sand stay in place? Do you glue gravel to the bottom with hot glue gun? I can buy 5lbs of aquarium gravel from Petco for $5. If you tip it to one side then wouldn't it fall over and spill all over the place?. How would you guys do it?
Is gluing stone to plastic possible?
Help!!. Thanks
halo can someone tell me what is the purpose of grovel? weight only?
Cool video, but one issue I am having and it's the cost of good granulated carbon. A 4" filter for a 2x4 / 3x3 grow room uses around 4lbs of carbon. It doesn't cost much more to just buy a whole new filter. I can get carbon pellets for pretty cheap, but it's a huge hassle breaking them up into smaller pieces.
What is the width of the smaller fan? Thanks
What is the cost of making this
was the fan facing inside the bucket or the outside? the angle of the physical fan makes it seem like the air is blowing into the bucket. but wanted to confirm
hi. it's blowing outward (upward)
Thanks so much for this! I've tried loads of filters with tiny amounts of carbon but they weren't much use. This looks like the answer to a prayer. I do have a question, though if you have time to answer: I thought of putting layers of cardboard in the base instead of gravel - would this be a fire hazard or something? Sorry if it's a stupid question - I'm 70 and not used to DIY!
Do you seal smaller pail to the fan, so all the air is filtered thru the screen. It seems it would make it slightly more affective, but maybe not worth the difference in build difficulty?!?!?
Great idea. If hepa filter were added( cylinder type used in Vacuum cleaner) then it will be easily worth $200 dollars. Have you experience any carbon dust? And I am hoping to use centrifugal fan( those used in blower so air vent os on the side). And hoping I can control air power settings( high, medium, low). Anyone knows how to do that, please let me know.
Just use something like a dimmer,(look for rheostat or potentiometer) more resistance between the 12v and the fan will slow it down.
Can i use charcoal
I like it. Did you seal the gap between the smaller bucket and the lid/fan? Or dont you need to?
Some measurements would be helpful - I mean, will it actually remove the VOCs?
Didn't show a smoke test so I'm assuming no. He would have had to tamp down the activated carbon to pack it fuller to be more effective at filtering smoke, but would decrease the airflow he was achieving. Good idea in theory though.
I think if you had a smoke filled room and let it circulate a long while it would clear it. Weigh the amount of carbon placed and the bucket before, then run it in the smoke room and weigh it after and you can get an idea of how much it's filtering. Do it on a tile floor and you'll see how much settles as well. Again, great idea in theory for a DIY.
i love the idea of making an activated charcoal filter to filter the smoke of making activated charcoal, fuelled by "spent" or "soiled" activated charcoal as well as heat recovery/recycling from the process itself.
What was the reason for rinsing the charcoal pieces?
hi. the charcoal has lots of charcoal 'dust' in it so it's a good idea to rinse that off.
Will this work for weed dry herb vape and smoke?
Im building one of these as soon as i get my fan in the mail. Does the fan push the air too quick? Ive read that slower air flow is more effective at cleaning, THX
You can always install a fine HEPA filter around the bucket, to slow down the air flow and extend it's life-span.
What about formaldehyde, if you know?, thanks
Looking to filter out fumes from a 3D printer. The printer will be in an enclosure and I'll pull air out and run it through, I'm thinking, a 6" pvc pipe filled with the carbon. Really nice info. Thanks!
Ok, I am going to build one of these for smoking cigars in my garage this winter. If I can eliminate the need to suck air out through a window when it's -20 Fahrenheit, I'll be a happy camper.
2 questions:
1). Is it really necessary to wash out the carbon dust? I would think every little bit of activated charcoal would help.
2). I'd be very curious how this would compare to the $600.00 "Rabbit Air MinusA2", which sounds like it does an excellent job at getting rid of the smoke smell. You used a lot more charcoal than their filter holds.
I may wrap a pre-filter material around the whole thing. I know my garage is dusty and a pre-filter may keep the charcoal a bit "cleaner", along with eliminating dust as well.
Excellent instructional video, I can't wait to try it out!!
The dust would blow right through your screen and fan. I'm thinking about making one in a one inch thick, 20 x 20 square, then putting a micro filtration furnace filter on it, and putting it on the back side of a box fan. That might eliminate the need for washing and drying.
I just finished mine. The fan on high blows pretty good when not on the 5 gallon pail, but really blows less once the cover is on. I caulked the fan to the cover so all air flow is going through the carbon (no air bypassing the carbon). Hopefully there is enough draw. I’ll light up a cigar soon and test it out.
Epic fail. I used an 8” Turbo fan. Doesn’t have enough air flow to draw smoke through the carbon. I put my cigar right next to the holes and the smoke flows straight up beside the pail. Going to have to try a more powerful fan.
@@D-Allen Hey if you already built it you should look into a inline fan with a fan controller. They are a little noisey but they will suck through the filter no problem. You can also get inline carbon filters already made. Saw a video of a guy that bought a 4inch inline carbon filter plus a inline 4 inch fan then took a 4 inch hepa filter for those shop vacs and they work well for weed smoke tobbaco smoke and for people around the wild fires. Also they sell mufflers to make those fans quieter aswell.
Tony Chambers Funny you mention this. I have a 6” inline blower fan coming that I ordered yesterday. Hope it works!!
can i use a 12v car cig fan and convert directly to an outlet plug?
Hey great video very helpful. Just want to know how often need to change the activaed carbon?
hi there and thanks. it all depends on how much you use it and how dirty the air is. from a couple of months to several years if you don't use it that much.
Will it eliminate fumes from burning trash and plastic?
it removes all types of odors so it would certainly help.
That's exactly what I need.
Great job.
Thanks much for your video how do you know when the carbon is no longer useful or when you have to change carbon
Activated carbon can last for more than a year, sometimes up to two years. It fails when exposes to 60% RH, or when the carbon gets too old. You will notice the odor returning at that point.
Need sample of it working
This really works! Do you need to change the charcoal ? How long does this work?
Good question! I'm sure you would have to change it, eventually. Just like in the military, our carbon canisters would need to be changed periodically. Not sure how often, though. Only used my mask in the gas chambers a few times. Never had to change them.
You have to put a post filter after loose carbon..
And you are better off using a squirrel cage (centrifugal) fan - they generate more pressure.
Would I be able to low temp in an oven to heat it if it's winter ? Can't exactly sun heat without the window blowing it around
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Do you think this would work in a small apartment for marijuana (asking for a friend)
...asking for a friend… LOL Your a really thoughtfull good friend :).
Most fuckin definitely Bro
Why would anybody want to inhale activated carbon?
My upstairs neighbor smokes and it seeps into my apartment and gives me horrible headaches. I can't afford an expensive air filtration system. Do you think this would help with my problem?
just start smoking yourself.. problem solved
OK so I'm crafty and love a good DIY but I don't have any understanding of anything electrical.... so I'll probably sound stupid asking this question but why hook this up to a battery? Could I make one and just plug it in to a electrical outlet? Or your purpose was to make this portable?
hi. you can use either an ac or dc fan. i like making things that work off grid so i use dc powered items a lot.
Great idea! I have a question. Would it work if you reversed the fan so it sucks air in from the top and blows through the holes?
hi. i can't say for sure (since i've never tried it) but i always have better luck when i 'pull air' versus pushing it through something.
good video mate.
Now if you can combine that with HEPA filter, your golden
You should put a piece of cloth in the sink to filter the carbon dust to save for a homemade gas mask.
Using glue to get the screen on is probably the hardest part of this project. Once i got there I have stopped. Anymore suggestions to getting the screen to stay besides school glue?
Use a wood burner or soldering iron and burn the screen into the plastic in a few areas
Hot glue
A hot glue gun or a plastic welder should work to tack the screen to the inner walls of the bucket.
E6000 adhesive or shoe goo would probably work better at sticking to the plastic bucket.
Love it my man . I'm off grid and just built root cellar/ bunker. This is great 👍 gonna make a few. Thank you
nice!
Thank you. This will work perfect for us. Not useing tent or closet this will work well for a whole room
i use that same fan to cool my engine at car shows in a pair configuration in my hood. Very powerful they are
indeed. 😎
Does anyone know if you can use regular carbon ? Purified carbon is hard to get where I live but not charcoal from fires. I guess I would have to wash it and then crush it. But not sure if it will work
Has to be activated carbon - pet shops have it
May be you can help me I have a mold problem in my basement will your
Air Purifier work for me,
i couldn't say for sure - but it might
I'm Gunna try this for my garage when spraypainting
nice!
Awesome, very good product, tks bro
thank you
why wash out the carbon dust?
hi. if you didn't rinse the carbon then any carbon dust would likely blow out of the unit.
I built this, and it’s awesome!! But the fan I have is a 6” AC fan clip on style… and it doesn’t circulate the air through well. can someone provide a link to a n effective AC fan for this build? Thank you
for some reason the AC clip fans are usually much weaker than the DC ones. i'm not sure which AC fan might be best (i'll leave that for other commenters) but one thing you could do is use a DC clip fan (like i did) but power it with AC (using an ac/dc transformer). amazon has tons of those transformers. some are as cheap as 5 to 8 bucks.
@@desertsun02 I took a second bucket lid and 12V DC radiator fan off Amazon. Used a 12V, 12.5A LED Driver to power it, however it is very noisy, kind of like having a vacuum on. Is there a way to run the fan at 3/4 the speed its at now?
Do you need any sort of specific way to modulate the AC to DC to control fan speed? Is whatever speed the fan will spin at acceptable, if I plug it right into an AC to 12V DC adapter off Amazon?
hi. you can install a motor speed controller if you want (but it's not necessary). they sell motor speed controllers on amazon for about 12 dollars.
Think this would be good with cannabis smoke? Now that legalization is slowing happening and I’m sure not everyone is a fan of the smell.
What power supply is used to drive the fan? Looking for a cheap and/or widely available option. Thanks.
hi. i use one made by roypow. it puts out 12v 15a. that is more than enough and it's held up for years. you can find it on amazon. (just search roypow 12v 15a)
Would this get rid of resin fumes?
hi there. probably but it would depend on the exact chemicals
That's badass man! Yhanks for the diy vid!
No problem 👍
Thanks for the video.. Why do you rinse the charcoal so thoroughly? Have you tried this setup with a quick soaking? I just don't get why you would use up so much of the adsorption affect on the water
@Brian Z when you buy it it has a lot of charcoal dust in it. that's a very fine dust that you need to rinse off. ideally you will rise it with clean water so it won't affect the life of the charcoal very much. i wish they sold it rinsed but they don't seem to.
@@desertsun02 Cool thanks a lot for the response and the video
Can you link to a the fan you used? What cfm is it supposed to be
hi. i did a quick search and don't see the exact links but i can tell you the smaller fan is an "auto expressions" fan sold at walmart (in their auto dept) and the larger fan is just a generic car radiator fan (7" one). it was sold by a company called 'most plus' *if i remember right (but amazon sells lots of different ones).
Can you use ant type of activated carbon? like the ones used for fish tanks?
hi. Yes, absolutely
Was the activated carbon in granual form or powder?
hi. it granular size. pellet style should be good too
I'm still trying to find a strong enough fan for this.. Any suggestions ?
the fan doesn't have to be a particularly strong one for this. both types of fans i show in the video work good. the only fans that probably won't work well are computer case fans and the weaker desk fans.
How often do you change the charcoal ? Do you notice odors being eliminated ?
hi there. how often you change the charcoal will depend a lot on how much you use it and how thick or saturated the 'smell in the air is'. i expect to have to change it every few months... but so far i'm still on the original stuff and it's working great. it's a clear and noticeable change in the air as the odor is being eliminated.
@@desertsun02 Thanks . I'm going to make one ......Good video !
Hey could you please send a link of the fan you used for this? This is so sweet btw, I have searched for a long time for a good carbon scrubber but they are so expensive at hundreds of dollars or poor quality and end up breaking. This seems so cost effective and durable its not even funny.
hi and thanks. the links for those fans change often so i can't find the exact link, but if you search for 7 inch car radiator fans on amazon you should see a lot of them.
Brilliant idea. How well does it work? can you smell smoke on the exhaust?
hi. it works good. no smoke smell on the exhaust.
@@desertsun02 brilliant, going to try it this week :)
Where did you get your fans and have you thought of adding a HEPA filter ? If so where would you put it?
hi. i get those fans on amazon. (they sell the smaller one at walmart too). i haven't thought on adding a HEPA filter (but there are several ways to add extra filtering)
@@desertsun02 How would you add a HEPA ? Thanks
How do you run the 6 inch fan on house current?
hi. the best way i know of is to buy an ac to dc transformer. they sell lots of them on amazon
@@desertsun02 I am assuming the width of the six inch fan is six inches . Have you thought of putting a HEPA filter on the top so air will flow through that and if so have you found one that will fit?
My question is how to get affordable activated carbon that’s also good quality so it will work well; Amazon seems to be loaded with crap that doesn’t work, and it seems that some stuff that works in aquarium filters doesn’t work well for odor removal. Any suggestions, anyone?
desertsun02, how loud is this DIY air purifier? Max. for me is 50 db, because I have neighbours (who don't like me smoking marihuana)
hi it's not very loud. the cameras microphone makes it sound louder than it is. it's just going to depend on which type and size of fan you use and how fast you run it. it's only loud if you use the car radiator fan and run it on full or high speed. the other fan is relatively quiet. actually the radiator fan is no louder than a box fan if you run it at about 75% speed. and at 50% speed you can barely hear it (and that's still a lot of airflow). but it really depends on the fan. one trick (to soften the sound) is to set a piece of pipe over the fan (like an 8" elbow). you should be able to just drop it on (over the fan) like i do in other videos (in those vids i use the elbow piece to direct the air). the pipe (elbow) acts as a muffler and works amazingly well. or avoid that and buy a quiet fan 🙂
@@desertsun02 Thank you! =) Great video!
Having trouble finding a fan that would suit in the uk. Would an Inline hydroponics extractor fan work? Thanks
The radiator fan is easy to get hut what is the minimum amount of power this will run on. 80 Watts is quite a lot. Want to run it all the time
They say this won't work for radon but I am gonna try it and take 7 day average readings before and after.
It has been over 7 days, thank you for your contribution to science. You go in the hall of fame for all of the science lab rats.
Hopefully it worked, let us all know, if not you will be memorialized forever on RUclips and the internet for your great contribution to science.
Great job but I have a bunch of questions I hope you can help with. Im building the same thing on "steriods"...LOL First, what kind of scree n did you use that will contain the charcoal and not let it get sucked thru and into the air stream. I don't want to turn this thing on and blast charcoal powder all over the place. Second, where did you get the bag charcoal and what particle size is it. If the particles are smaller than the screen you going to get blow thru...that means charcoal in the air....which will make more of a mess than it actually cleans over time. I have an axial loaded blower, I plan to use a pre-filter like you did then run it thru the charcoal bank and then into a Merv 13 final filter. If the charcoal leaks thru the screen into the air flow the Merv 13 filter will be plugged up in a matter of minutes.... Hope you can help.
@@jollyrogerexperience where do you put the pillow fill?
Please put the headlines video in English or Spanish.........I need that device , I live on a main avenue with a lot of car smoke this pollution affects my breathing all the time ,thank you ...
hi. something like this may help you out a lot. it's easy to make. if you do, and if you want, let us know how it worked out for you.
@@desertsun02 I'm looking forward to your next video thank you ........
Is it 60 or 40 oz of activated carbon?
it's around 60 oz. (close to 4lbs.)
Hey, so why didn’t you just buy a standard sheet of activate carbon prefilter and line the inside of one bucket with that? Is using whole carbon somehow more effective bc of the thickness?
It's probably a lot more effective but I'd like to know the answer too
I think is easier to take apart an old vacum clean and insert carbon inside the filter
Vaccum cleaners are loud
Can I buy one of these from you? I wouldn’t be able to make it given my limitations and I am very sick 😢
hi. i'm sorry you are sick and i hope you start feeling better soon. i don't make the projects i just show how to make them. maybe a friend or neighbor could help you.
@@desertsun02 Thank you ❤️
Anyone know what the CFM of this bad boy would be?
hi. the smaller fans are probably 200-300 cfm. the 7" car radiator fans can be anywhere from 600 cfm to up to 1500 cfm! if you want to adjust the speed, amazon sells simple (10 dollar) motor speed controllers.
How often do you have to change the activated carbon?
Amazing project by the way! I have been trying to be creative and make my own, but probably will copy your idea :) ty!
hi there. that varies quite a bit - depends a lot on how much you use the unit (and how dirty the air is). a few months (maybe 5) with heavy usage to a few years (if you don't use it much).
@@desertsun02
Thank you for the reply, I didn't see it til now.
I wanna build one or 2 like yours for weed smell in my room and also to purify the air. I wonder where you bought your fans?
can i get a fan that plugs in instead?
hi there. yep. an AC powered fan should work good too 👍🙂
@@desertsun02
Thank you!
You're amazing my man
What size carbon grains?? I just ordered some and the grains are so fine they goes through the screen 🤷🏼♂️
I know this comment is kind of old, but if anyone else has the same problem, you can use nylon or another type of thin, stretchy, breathable cloth. I think smaller grains work better to immediately remove odors anyway, so that is my plan.
do you know that it works perfectly fine without the fan ? You simply have to make a flat version of what is made on this video. It is called passive air filter. Of course there is less volume of air trated by hour but you can make a bigger one to compensate.
hi. if interested, i have a video of a flat passive one as well. that one is usually mounted in a window. can be used with a window fan for more airflow
@@desertsun02 ah yes that's cool !
2:34 Do we really need to be bare foot?