Can YOU SPOT 3 SIGNS of a TRAINED FIGHTER?.. The Joe Schilling Case
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2021
- How would you spot a trained fighter in the street or bar? What are the 3 signs you would look for? This week we list ours, but list your indicators of a trained fighter or martial arts guy in the comments below. We use the Joe Schilling case as a classic example of why you need to know if your BAD GUY is a trained fighter.
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What are the 3 main Signs of a TRAINED FIGHTER would you look out for before a street fight?
Calm collected and focused , most guys get angry in the hope of appearing tough but it makes me think he or they are insecure.
One of the main things I'm scanning is their walk. Are they covering a distance fast while smooth, is there a hitch which indicates some prior damage and a point of attack for a kick or taking down to the ground.
I ran into a guy at home depot, I thought for sure he was a football player and asked him what he weighed, I guessed 250lbs, but he told me he was 270lbs and actually a boxer who had a few pro fights til he injured his knee. Dude had cantaloupes for fists, massive. Dont think I'd want any part of a fight with him but he was friendly and appreciated I had asked.
@@clivestaples244
Two things you cant weight train are your joints, and your sensory organs/nervous.
Now, the issue is setting up attacks for those weak-points while keeping yourself safe
The solution is training your body, mind-body connection, and limbic system
Cauliflower ears
Califlower eyes, scar tissue, MMA/fighting merch. Coordination (How they move) is actually also a pretty underrated sign
Easiest way here would’ve been read the back of his t shirt
Not in america, all the wanna bes wear them, that's how we can tell who can and cant fight. 99% of the time they're all mouth and try to be intimidation.
I hope this is sarcasm 😂
@@uncomfortabletruth1548 i wear my machacdo jiu jitsu shirts but its because i train there every week lol im not wearing old affliction or tapout lmao
Depends on who it is. The fakes will get exposed quick. But keep in mind people could be fans or friends of the art too
Lol,,, good one!!
These are good signs to know a trained fighter but they won't tell you if the person is dangerous, crazy or a criminal. So even if a person is not a trained fighter and doesn't have any of these signs, they can still be dangerous people that will murder you with a weapon.
Better avoid physical conflict with any stranger no matter how they look or behave unless there is absolutely no choice.
Amen to that friend! Also, no jail time.
Yeah, no jail time!!
Or you also have weapons to use against someone with weapons, and are trained on how to effectively use said weapons.
i know exactl what you mean. i was in a situation were a guy was really creepy yelling at people, at me my wife... i decided to GO away... 5 minutes later he fought with another guy, BIT his EAR OFF and chewed on it till the cops came. with the ear in his mouth he was more calm and i could fix him till cops arrived. but the minutes before he would have had my ear :-D
I knew a ruff street guy who was HIV infected. He would bite himself and spit blood in your face. Even if you win you lose. He was a dangerous man.
A confident and calm man in a tense situation is one of the most dangerous people in the room
And this “confidence” & “calm” is gained by training, being beaten down over and over until he’s not afraid from being beaten down.
You mean Batman?
@@magcitrate 💪💯👍
@@magcitrate Oh aye! Totally agree. Getting beaten down and standing back up does make one very formidable.
@@trishulbaruah6353 pretty much ....LOL
Quiet confidence is one of the biggest signs. Most loud people are really scared and hope their loudness itself will intimidate you.
Excellently said Sir. Empty vessels make the loudest noises. It's the ones that aren't saying anything nor showing any emotion. They tend to be the nastiest motherfuckers when shit hits the fan.
Yup
@Jarrod Crail Context. A lot of these guys are business men besides fighters and understand fight promotion. But I promise you most fighters in a real life situation DO, they ain’t selling woof tickets like that.
Or they're angry psychos and want to fight
@@MiggsMultiple Number 1: never underestimate anyone
"Real gangsters don't flex nuts because real gangsters know they got em."
In my time in the Marine Corps, I learned you can usually tell the bad asses, the ones with training and experiences, from their attitude. Most were not quick to start fights and had a confident calmness about them in the face of adversity. They didn't beat their chests or mouth off with a bunch of bravado, but they knew when it was time to act.
@Nick P Says the candy ass sitting in his mom's basement...
@Nick P You accuse others of being dummies but obviously have nothing intelligent to add to this, or any other, conversation.
@Nick P Why are you acting like this man? I can tell by the way you're talking that you're meek and pathetic, not even being mean here I just want you to be better
@Nick P
Blaming the victims accomplishes nothing
@Nick P tbh i agree with you for the most part, i just don't like the way you are making your point. If you were just a bit more polite, i believe it would help you get your message across.
Most trained fighters won't risk anything for a street fight
That depends on the neighborhood......
That's not true, plenty of trained fighters get into it on the street. This is a common misconception. World class fighters yes they won't risk anything, bit amateur gyms ate full of good fighters who are full of the same range of most groups of people. Being a trained fighter doesn't mean that they will be well adjusted human beings. Plenty of trained fighters are involved in the darker side of society, lot of amateur boxers/mma fighters in prison for example.
So untrue lol
Cocky fighters will
Uh yea tell that to Shannon Taylor here in Australia born in my home town I've witnessed the man pull over to help a kid getting his ass handed to him by 8 people he knocked each one of them out and HE IS PRO this was back in 2010 before his career went down the toilet
My dad was a champion muay thai fighter in Thailand. It's one thing to be a muay thai fighter another to be a champion in Thailand. He was 5'9 thin ,big knuckles and he's ankles and his legs were hard as rock (brusied).. he was very quiet, just super humble..he looked nerdy. He had no temper esp. with me there.. I've seen men yelling almost belittling him but he would walk away unfazed. I would even get pissed... until one day, he was talking to his friend , a mechanic who overcharged my mom few thousands for a 100 job..my thai is off but I saw that man talk nonstop to my dad nonstop, he just kept pushing it ... and I swear it was less than 10 seconds. My dad knocked him out. It was two punches soo fast. I mean that man dropped.. I was 10 years old, of course I was freaked out.. but I didn't know about humility esp in thai culture.. they are so in control of temper its crazy.. my dad and most fighters would not fight until it was necessary. They don't usually fight to harm but defend. Muay thai fighting is offensive, it's straight harsh street fighting, brutal. Anyways you never know but I agree with the assessment. Damn miss my dad now. Take care
That's cool, me too
My dad was the hulk
Cool, what’s his name
Physical signs don't always tell. I've seen guys and gals with long hair, normal ears, skinny or chubby, small hands, who duck walk, absolutely demolish guys. I think the biggest giveaway, with people who actually train proper to the fullest degree and know their skill set very well, is their demeanor. They are usually very calm, polite, little signs of fear, and don't try to intimidate. I'm my opinion, those types are the scariest mofos out there.
This is why I'm still thinking the best fights are the ones that are avoided
Exactly.
Or that pay you millions of $
The best fighters I know would never be dragged into crap on the street anyway.
can't argue with that
As the Chinese say I'm powerphrasing here so don't attack me people
"The fights we win are the ones we avoid"
There’s an easy way and a hard way to find out if somebody is a trained fighter. Take the easy way!
That's funny, because it's true.
@@jonhaddican268 He's usually funny.
What a the easy way exactly? Not getting into fights in the first place? Not trying to be snarky or rude just asking out of curiosity more then anything
@@bluehornet197 If you’re not a jerk in the lead-up to it, you could just ask them.
@@dublinoseven3279 ok fair thank you for getting back to me about this I was genuinely curious I hope you have a great day
The reality is you can not tell. I have worked in bars, and still do, since the late 80’s. I have seen many hundreds of real fights take place in various settings from giant clubs to smaller bars with only a few hundred people. Forget trying to figure out such nonsense. It doesn’t work anyway. If you are a trained fighter, there is a chance that you could injure someone badly, even a bystander, and as a result, you may be arrested. Then, you will have to prove your innocence, which cost a ton of money and may not be successful. You may have to pay fines, restitution, lose your job, or even lose your freedom. Most people that can fight, will therefore, avoid such altercations, because this is not their first rodeo. Do yourself a favor. Get the attention of the bartender or staff. That way, if something does happen, they will explain to the police that you were attempting to get help. Oftentimes, that’s the end of it. If there is no one to testify for your side, and your adversary has friends, they will say you beat up their friend for no reason. The police will listen to the staff in most cases.
Sad but true. Good reason to avoid whenever possible. And like you said if a fight happens make sure there are other witnesses for your sake.
Yes you can tell.
Just like you can pick up on pre-attack indicators, you can pick up on certain individuals.
Even if the person isn't a trained fighter in terms of actual ring/mat time. You can at times sense that they're a dangerous individual.
Perhaps reading body language or noticing physical cues, doesn't work for you.
It's worked for me, my father and many others.
And people thinking you are the aggressor can happen in seconds without you even realizing what happened. So good advice
Also, don‘t get drunk in bars and clubs. If you start a fight while intoxicated, it will be held against you.
@michaelmyers Good advice 👍🏾
Treat every gun as loaded and dangerous, never assume it's "safe". Treat everyone who gets hostile as a black belt, never assume they'll be an easy fight.
Nice
This is exactly how bane fought its great
Literally how I asses everyone in a hostile situation... I always assume they have the power, speed and skill to take me down putting me in a constant state of hyper awareness once a hostile situation has been initiated. I don't care how trained you are, if you underestimate your opponent, you are preparing to get hurt
Emotional control is also a sign of competence and confidence. Always practice “high tactics and low emotion vs high emotion and low tactics”
This is true but not always I flip pretty easy because of a tbi on my last tour overseas and having ptsd I stay 100 over little things and I take medication to help. I wrestled all through school 9 years marine’s and still train local here at home. But high emotions aren’t always a key. Body language says everything about someone though
U mean like somone talkin crap and you ignoring somone as in a trained fighter and somone talking shi back and pushin as a untrained?
I prefer basic tactics & low emotions..hard to use complex defenses in the heat of battle
@@sayoshinakamario agreed , high tactics is not meant to infer complex physical techniques it’s meant to infer focusing on the use of effective tactics in the given scenario and not allowing emotions (and/or a loss of emotional control) to drive your decision making . If your emotions are under control you can breathe better and think better. If you can think better you can make better tactical decisions. That’s high tactics.
Man if you hang around BJJ gyms, you'd realize that some of the most dangerous people are dorks who ride scooters for fun.
Hell yeah, the best thing about bjj is it teaches you to be humble, you could literally get turned inside out by a small girl if you she has the right technique. Looks mean nothing at all
Yea but if you go boxing or kick boxing they ain't . They are life long jocks that poor concrete for a living 🤷
Yea bjj is for nerds
Until they get punched in the face trying to go for a submission.
When you punch a black belt they turn into a brown belt, you punch them again they go down to purple and so on.
@Bac000 You should look up the person who said it first. Then you'll understand.
Beware the quiet man. He's already assessed you.
Have you seen Ryan Hall Vs drunk guy ?
Spot on......
That's one trait that should also be on the list. The guy who is calm/quiet in the moment and instead of doing all the bluster might be doing threat assessment. I don't know about you but since learning martial arts I find I'm in vigilance mode sometimes.
True
Beware the sigma male
Number one tip: don’t start aggro with fit looking big tall guy with a shaved head wearing tee-shirt that has CAGE RING written all over it!
So hard to do under the circumstances. The guy in the tie was having a good time out. He was feeling good after a few drinks and was disrespected by the pro fighter. He reacted in the way most people would have. The fighter trapped the guy in the situation and knew fully what he was doing. He's a bully and a complete piece of shit.
I do agree with your statement but Shilling was wrong here, he assaulted that guy and its unacceptable. He posed no threat to him and Shilling is a trained fighter who could have easily killed him, people have died from one punch occasionally.
@@thomasfowler8212 fair enough, to be honest my reaction is just based off the edited clips shown in this video, I don’t know the full context or who was involved. From what you and the other commenter @Jason Uerkvitz are saying, a professional fighter was bullying a boisterous but otherwise innocent member of the public. In which case I completely agree with you both, there’s no excuse for any unnecessary heavy handed behaviour from security especially if they are pro fighters.
@@jasonuerkvitz3756 you mean they guy that was insulting people and being racist in the bar then faked a punch toward shilling?? that's the guy who got "trapped"?? lmao you beta dudes make me laugh. that's that "i'm gonna let him hit me first by antagonizing him so i don't get in trouble and can cry self defense" type shit.
@@corylahey9941 How do you know he was being racist?
As a thaiboxer I’ve always noticed the louder someone is means the more scared and less they know
It's Anxiety a typical fight or flight response, like a cat when another cat invades its territory.
Very true. The calm person in a confrontation scares me more than the loud person.
Not always. I do muay thai and I have a friend that he trains and he's loud af sometimes but all fighters are different they're real ppl so you can't really tell some nerds some jocks
Funny you say this because one thing I've noticed is that only people who have very little training say 'as a insert fighting style, I believe...' Do you think Mike Tyson starts sentences with 'as a boxer'
@@tomdarrington I don't know Mike Tyson but since you do I guess your the expert so drop some knowledge
I'm highly skilled in recognizing a trained fighter. But I've never got past seeing the first sign because by then I'm already sprinting away! : )
In my younger days, I was the opposite; I made little eye contact, kept my chin down, kept my hands moving at chest level while talking, and used my peripheral vision to assess an opponent. You could almost always see a punch coming a mile away.
casuals wind up like they are pitching a baseball
Whenever someone suspicious walks past me, I scratch my ear to keep my hand up
Good advice!
And get stabbed in the liver...
@@bbsingh7554 nobody's perfect
Excellent info 👌🏽
I've found the quietly confident ones who are calm before battle are the ones to watch out for rather than the loud ones who gesture a lot
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ya cuz we already been watchin u bro LOL
I know many a martial artist/mma fighter that does not have cauliflower ears but to a guy you can tell by their stance. What's interesting the more skilled they become the less they go looking for a fight, but the ones only a few years in those are the dangerous ones that want to use what they practice.
@@QuantumPyrite_88.9 - My favorite was the guys that would come to the gym "I'm a street fighter with over 100 fights and I have never lost!"
@@QuantumPyrite_88.9 love it!
@@SwordFighterPKN seen that too
I can tell the really good taekwondists and karatekas actually DO have hair, Do look friendly, and Don't walk like apes. Pretty normal guys, even might look a bit shy.
Yea over the years if training and getting better, you have alot of humbling experiences. I for one don't have cauliflower, I started to get it and kept everything away from my ears after that. I model as well, not a good look.
1. Physically: Cauliflower ears, broken nose, scuffed knuckles, lopsided shoulders, short hair.
2. Coordinated and confident movements.
3. Slightly lopsided stance, is relaxed, makes eye contact, chin tucked
I didn't get what is ascertained by the lopsided stance. Like they're in a ready stance? jabbing side forward or whatever?
@@liuchaquan Most martial arts including boxing teaches fighters to stand with a lead foot and back foot with torso twisted. Its rare that fighters are capable on both sides never mind practice each side with equal time and effort. This means the body will get conditioned to stand in a lopsided stance with muscles on each side of the body developing to that stance.
Cuts healed above the eye would be another clue to someone having boxing experience.
I know some street guys that would fool you
I’m 41 and as you age you have the opportunity to gain wisdom. I avoid bars and drunks. I respect others and mind my own business. I do my best to keep my ego in check. We all have one and they’re a pain in the ass. To me fighting is for self defense. Nothing more.
LOL, I'm also a Tom D. I'm an older guy too and agree with you, the vast majority of people who can really fight will probably never be anywhere close to a street fight, and even if they get in one, they would be more likely to subdue or diffuse, rather than send someone's head smashing into a pavement, even if they know they can. If you've ever really hurt someone in training by mistake, or a contest, you know how horrible it is and doing it in public can land you in jail.
The take away is don’t fuk with people. I’ve been training 22 years in BJJ and Muay that being said, I know plenty of savages that don’t have many if any at all of these signs lol 😂
Sign # 1 - he is wearing a shirt from a national cage fighting tournament.
Hahaha right?
Not really.
@R FX Sign, not proof. Given that the OP also indicated a list via utilizing a bullet point technique ("#1"), one can reasonably assume it belongs to group of ideas.
If the first sign is UFC merch, then another sign might be that they are fit, for example. Alone, a "sign" has very little meaning.
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Or wearing regional fight promotion apparel, or local MMA clothing. Which, they all look the same: they have the style taught on them, a phone number, and logo (usually a skull, triangle or spartan)
On the confidence it's a calm confidence and lack of shifting or fidgeting.
If he's drinking beer from the skull of his enemy, let him be 😂😂😂
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their jaw is kept low when close to opponent
good one
First give away is the calmness in intense situations, we know that we've been in way worst spots.
Very valuable n informative CHECKLIST to be aware of. Kudos for vid. Can't emphasize how invaluable n practical ur vids. Looking forward to ur next one.
Lol” be nice to them” that’s probably the best advice! Love that!
Maybe another sign would be they won't be intimidated by your body language/tone [the person standing next to them]
this one is a solid sign
Crushing it as per
Thanks guys 😎💪🏻
In any situation, violent, social or diplomatic, the most dangerous person in the room is the calm and silent one
In the martial arts club I briefly attended, we were taught to speak loudly, even shout, to project self-confidence. I always rolled my eyes at that because my experience (with Highschool thugs and bullies) taught me that the shouters are just compensating for their lack of self-confidence.
That's more of a police officer type of thing. It's supposed to catch people off guard and not give them time to think. But to a normal person that drunk or pissed they don't give two shits if you're yelling. Hell that will probably make it more of a reason to fight.
Shouting is usually a sign of fear, but sometimes it is a warning that the person is losing their mind and is about to go bananas physically.. it is the anger seeping out a bit before the dam bursts. Think the scene in "midnight express" when the protagonist has a meltdown that starts with screaming, and ends with biting his knocked out enemies toungue off! Emotional rampages are not the same thing as empty posturing.
Great form and content, Doctor. You make me part of the conversation- hanging with a few martial artists talking about the things we think about.
Excellent tips, l had a customer who was an ex Israeli Cop, he said he could tell by a guys eyes, l dont know, most people today with some exceptions grew up in peace, they are not ready.
Soon that may change...
you sound like one of those paranoid weirdos that considers themselves "preppers" lol
p.s. was the term "israeli" supposed to give the guy extra credibility or something? the guy probably spent most of his time harassing civilian women and children for being "terrorists" lmao
@@teddyperkins3406 You sound like one of the hopelessly unaware that will be put to sleep as quickly as they woke up in the violent new world that is approaching.
@@bojangles2492 Lmfao! Well played. Still laughing. And yes..this world is fast collapsing...soon...
@@teddyperkins3406 Would you rather be a "paranoid weirdo" in easy times or unprepared and skill-less in hard times? Let me rephrase it: Would you rather be a warrior in peaceful times or a farmer in times of war?
p.s. I am not supporting many of the actions of the IDF. They do harm innocent civilians, esp. in Palestine, and portray themselves as victims while being victimizers themselves.
@@bojangles2492 you sound like somebody that considers themself a prepper and only responded because you got offended over me referring to these types as "paranoid" lol
also, you might want to put a little more effort into how you express yourself. youre doing a horrible job if your goal is to convince others that youre not paranoid HAHA
When someone starts something with you it's a good sign they dont fight. Or if they are in your face and talking to you with their shoulders squared and chin out is another good sign they just want to try and intimidate you
great videos and tips dude. this stuff is priceless. thank you
I’m trained, my friends dad taught us to look like you’re “interested” in the heat of the moment. As in have one hand touching your chin and the other right below the elbow, that way you can fire a quick jab or block. Always ready
My dad always said "Never pick a fight with someone who has wrinkles on the back of their neck. You're not capable, son." I reckon he was right.
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i reckon ill get me some french friend potators
@@Nytemarezxz Reckon. Mhm. Maybe get me a sweet tea? If'n they got it. I don't like coffee, mhm. Makes me nervous. Mhmmhmm.
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Trained, experienced criminal attackers are very different than those trained in combat sports
Check out - Marc MacYoung, Rory Miller, Lee Morrison, and Tim Larkin
Good, legit authors.
Absolutely great wisdom and advice. I always measure or monitor anothers arm lengths and maintain a certain distance consistent with their arm lengths....their reach factor.
Maintain that distance at all times in a confrontational situation.
It allows recognition and reaction timing in critical moments when things get physical.
Always great to listen to this fantastic videos❤️ from. CRO
I just don't mess with anybody. Back in high school though, I got picked on enough that I felt it was a good idea to bulk up and my grandfather, a golden gloves winner back in the 50s trained me in his basement. I started going to a boxing gym and It was to the point people thought I was an athlete or just out of prison.
Years later, I get married andbe let things go physically. I have no motivation to get back in the zone like I was, but I hear so much reports of people getting victimized and I want to raise a family, so I need to start getting back into the physical shape and self defense I need again. I'm not really big on firearms, but nowadays, as guess you need that too, but packing a punch is much more rewarding.
My best friend dad was a golden gloves in the navy, when I’m home, I carry a 1911 and a pocket pistol, cause most people do, confidence and a cool head even when your pressure to fight will win you another day on this planet and no one dies or goes to jail, but, anything can and will happen
If you're going to carry, train in firearms just as much as your boxing. You want your weapons skills to be as practiced and smooth. Deployment under stress, weapon retention, everything. Draw and dry fire with a cold (unloaded) gun often, practice retention with a dummy pistol, get proper training by someone who understands the legalities of your area.
@@raksh9 You're totally right, thank you.
Same I was the skinny quiet kid in school people usually left me alone, but outside of school is when I dealt with more bullies.
Generally a trained fighter doesn't look for fights
They finish them ✊
As a lifetime martial artist, I'm really enjoying this channel. Seems very legit, and full of great info.
This is such a good tip. As I am a practitioner, and confident in my skills I always keep this in mind. I’ll try to avoid a confrontation with a truly skillful, 4X’s a week training dude. This is in no way saying not to defend yourself but there are many factors that may have you on the wrong end of things. So pay attention.
This advice is perfect for experienced fighters to realize they are telegraphing. After watching this I'd be working on presenting the opposite of everything you have pointed out. At 71, I'd be more inclined to not want an opponent to know that I know anything...just some thoughts
71?
Just carry a knife at 71 lol I knew a guy who made it to 70 and he immediately requested for his birthday a sword in a cane have a friend who made it for him he's pulled it out once or twice when people have tried robbing him who's gonna take on someone with a freaking sword?
You are spot on. People that can look after themselves. They are not big oafs from what I've seen. They usually don't portray anything at all. I think the people discussing this dont have much idea.
@@bluehornet197 Dude, that sounds like my grandfather. He is in his early 70s and got a cane sword a year or two ago. Except I don't think he has friends
@@johndevitt5619 regardless if he has friends or not he owns a sword lol
I am now giving myself cauliflower ears and grinding my knuckles into the floor for that rugged callus look. I am stopping at the broken nose. Ain't gonna do it!!!!!
Lol
Serious suggestion for the knuckles; do knuckle push-ups on a hard surface. I used to do 20 a day.
Work as a tile setter, your knuckles will be there within a week!
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Nah mate you gotta go for the broken look gotta get that authenticity out 😂😂😂
great video...i'm too old to go around fighting, but great information...
This is a great light hearted video
As a former trained fighter. I would definitely look at his stance ie like he's standing on a train track with left or right foot ahead of the other.
Toes in.
The ears are a dead giveaway. Posture/stance is also something I look for. Overall attitude, how they carry themselves (dangerous guys don’t advertise it). Scar tissue can be a sign, depending on where it’s at. It can also be from things like manual labor. After thirteen years in various combat zones and working as a bouncer, I pay a whole lot of attention to the non verbals.
Love this channel!
Another winner. Thanks!
Based on my personal experience as a self-defense practitioner, when a guy acts stupid and tough like he's going to beat the sh** out of everyone he comes into contact with, that's a sign that he's an untrained fighter. One more thing, he tells you that he's going to hit or kill you and he's telegraphing his strikes.
how about if a guy knocks a black belt and only a guy from the streets self taught in pheonix eye fist and wing chun with boxing...who talks smack smokes weed and backs it up..what do you say then
@@outcast1822 Ridiculous!😁
Thank-you for the video.
Most fighters I know (outside of Kyokushin) have very smooth hands and knuckles, as they have spent hours and hours enclosed in sweaty gloves. In over twenty years of training karate and boxing, I have never come across a fighter with cauliflower ears. I have also never noticed any lopsidedness, even amongst elite, single-stance boxers. Of course, my experience may not be the norm.
Given that most men have short(ish) hair, hair length does not provide a very useful cue, and you certainly wouldn't want to assume that because a person has long hair, they are incompetent. Someone who no longer trains regularly but formerly trained to an even moderate standard is still a formidable opponent. This fact also warns against disregarding people who seem overweight or underweight, small or otherwise innocuous or athletically atypical.
As mentioned towards the end of this video, composure in potentially violent situations is often an excellent indication, if not of training, of experience, but making any assumptions based upon any aspects of a person's presentation is fraught with danger.
Most importantly, whether or not a person is a trained fighter should never be a factor in your decision to fight them. You only fight if you deem it necessary. Period. Taking on someone merely because you think you can beat them is ethically unsound, unless perhaps you are outnumbered, the fight is highly likely or inevitable, and you need to reduce the number of opponents as quickly as possible.
Different cues provided by different fighters as to their discipline may seem useful when deciding how to engage, but even here, you're better off assuming that they are capable with all limbs, and in grappling as well as striking.
Also, never assume that the only guy causing trouble is the only guy (or girl) willing to cause trouble. One-on-one can soon turn into death by gang assault. Six people who don't know how to fight and who suddenly feel a drunken rush of immense loyalty for a guy they only met half an hour ago is still a very big issue to overcome.
For those of us who are unlucky enough to live in, or regularly travel through, volatile environments, the following advice will be of little consolation. Nevertheless, and at the risk of stating the obvious, three of the best decisions you can make in relation to maintaining your personal safety during a night on the town are:
1) Choice of venue and route: This will go a long, long way to ensuring you never have to make the decision to engage, and you can make this choice before you leave the safety of home.
2) Limiting alcohol intake (and alternating alcoholic drinks with water) is vital if you want to stand a reasonable chance of maintaining some semblance of control - including sound decision-making - in difficult situations.
3) Leave before things turn ugly. Many violent situations are easily predicted; prefaced by an atmosphere of macho aggression way before any physical conflict commences. Make the smart decision and walk out the door before you need to test your ability in an environment thick with pool cues and balls, glasses, chairs, table corners, ashtrays and of course, concealed weapons.
this is all much better advice than anything i've heard in their videos. I feel like their target audience is highschool guys that like UFC
@Futilitarian
Lucid, pertinent, accurate and very well expressed.
Rare to find such quality contributions on t'internet!
Thanks 💯
@@philmckenna5709 Cheers Phil. Glad you liked it.
I really enjoy this channel.
Nice cues, this makes sense to me in terms of fighting.
“Generally, fighters don’t have long hair”
*shows fighter with long beard*
@RED CHUCKS and nearly every female fighter in the business. Just poking fun at something he said in the video bruh
Great deception
He just wanted to highlight his bald head.
Try to grab that lad by the beard, you're bound to lose a finger or two
Thats a viking what you mean?
I'm gonna be honest, if a fighter came at me with your smile, I'm running away!
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I've been showing my kids these signs. Great video 👍
Another big thing that I've noticed that you lightly touched on is a very comfortable and knowledgeable fighter will usually be much more calm and less tense. Also really seasoned and higher skilled fighters will typically do more to avoid a physical fight when it's an issue only involving them, and won't need to talk about what they are going to do to the other person during a confrontation.
Thanks for the video and share. Cheers
I have never been aware of any of these things but what I usually do is : I am nice to everyone. Saves the potential stress of duking it out with someone who could be a trained martial artists. So far has worked well.
Joe was nice and the drunk tried to swing on him from the blindside. Effed around and found out.
Trained fighters don't go looking for trouble. They are calm, cool, and collected while facing someone who is irate.
Holy cow I used to train with Mark Phillips in my early teens North London. Was wondering why he looked so familiar! I always loved him as a teacher, didn't realize just how accomplished he is! Mad!
This was a great one
I just don't mess with people I don't know, you never know who's trained. Unless you're starting fights, you usually aren't going to fight a trained person in the street...can happen though
I think Schilling's video will eventually have him writing a check.
Good start... You also want to keep an eye out for signs that they have a weapon.
It’s funny you mentioned the hair deal. I sparred heavy with a friend several years ago and he grabbed my hair when I got the best of him; changing the game. I shaved my hair the next day and left it that way; until it remained bald on its own. Lol!
IMHO as a 6mos BJJ Student, most Exprienced Fighters are very Relaxed, Easygoing until they need to be aggressive.
They tend to be more calculated and untelling in thier movement.
I believe most experienced Fighters are like Special Ops Soldiers. Cool, Calm Collective but focused and meticulous in thier craft.
I’ve got a buddy I went to School with, grew up with, great friends still to this day. He is by far the most dangerous man in any room. Navy Seal (Ret), BJJ black belt, I’m not sure what degree, trained with the Gracies. Was also a personal body guard for our governor for 6 yrs. I wrestled in HS and college and some BJJ but when I rolled with this guy, he’d put you to sleep with out you even knowing it.... until you were asleep. Nicest guy you’ll ever meet until he needs to be otherwise.
great information......my question is, the quiet guy (not braggadocios) (usually not the one who starts fights), would they be more or less of a threat?
I think the first thing or sign someone should identify before getting in a fight is their own training to fight
Would fainting be a good defence when confronted by what appears to be a well seasoned fighter?
Only if your an Italian soccer player 🤣
lol...
It puts you prone next to stomping feet, if things have gone too far.
Otherwise, maybe.
Do you mean feint?
Or a 🐐
Lol, the physical twisting or lopsidedness is so true, I wrestled in high school and studied fighting for years. When I got to Massage school one of my teachers in posture class listed out all the physical changes that my fighting stance has made in my body. Shoulders, hips, feet. After they finished examining me I showed them my wrestling stance and they just laughed about it. It was uncanny
"Just be nice to them."
Smart advice, especially when out of your element.
A calm smile, like it's going to be fun
Not necessarily a physical trait, but there is an aura, I've only seen it on convicts, combat vets or somebody who's seen some shit. Hard to describe but you know it when you see it. And you can't fake it.
Just noticed his t. Shirt lads he's advertising mma club when in doubt insult the guy if you don't finish the sentence he's a trained fighter.
Good video 👌👌👌
I’m new to your channel. I really enjoy the content. What martial art do you teach/train? Thanks
Never have your hands down when someone is being aggressive towards you. There's various defensive postures you can take which don't look like you're egging the guy on to attack you but which will offer some protection if he does. My favourite would probably be the left arm cupping my right elbow and my right hand on my chin as I'm stood with weaker foot forward as I would if I were in boxing class. That way you can safely keep everything tucked and tight and you aren't stood there in a combative position whilst trying to desculate the situation.
The gentleman in the video will know much more about this topic though than myself so listen to him lol.
Yep amrs folded but not tucked into each other with weaker foot forward & rear slightly bent.
@@moorshound3243 Absolutely.
In the full video it happens within seconds and the guy in the tie feints towards Schilling. Schilling set this guy up. He was super disrespectful and shoved the guy to the side from behind. Tie guy said something and Schilling was on him, right in his personal space. At this point the tie guy has been treated rudely and isn't thinking about keeping his hands up and trying to calm the situation. He's been tricked into a losing situation where he could have died or suffered serious brain damage. Schilling is a total piece of shit.
@@jasonuerkvitz3756 Oh definitely, each individual scenario plays a massive part. I'm talking about a 100% perfect world situation which is obviously rare.
In almost every case where I've had to throw hands I've always started with my hands up, palms out, like one would do if held at gunpoint to indicate compliance. In all of those cases the other person did not see the punches coming.
The biggest sign of a trained fighter is when the beat your ass with ease...
Well plenty of those crossfit girls could whoop you with ease too... That doesn't make them fighters though.
@@Confucius202 A crossifitter would throw out their shoulder in a fight using piss-poor technique. They've got good cardio, but that's about it.
Good video👍 I think the important part is never undersize or underestimate anyone! "Every dog has his day."
i actual love this guy hes so funny i hate fighting stuff but this makes it better
I don't know, but my guess is that a trained fighter fights for a prize. He's not gonna run the risk of killing someone in a pub, or bar fight and if it comes out in court that he in fact is trained, he could be facing a lot of time in prison. My guess is that he'd have common sense enough to avoid a bar, or street confrontation for fear of this consequence.
I don't mean to sound rude ir condescending but your guess is wrong while there are many fighters who would avoid a fight especially at a bar there are many fighters especially trained and pro fighters e.g Connor Mcgregor who start fights at bars and punch on with much less skilled fighters
Personally, if I'm having a few drinks, the last thing I want to do is fight. Many people are different though. I have some training, but nothing really notable, just enough that I know that the best fight is the one you walk away from in a public setting. Self defense is fine, but in my opinion, even if the guy deserved it, Joe Schilling should have just had a laugh and walked off. What if the guy had busted his skull on the tile when he hit the ground after being KO'd? What if he had friends with knives or guns (I live in the US, so guns are common.)? It's just not worth it.
The truth is you really never know who the trained fighter is until after someone gets hurt. Some guys with no training fit the description, but would get their ass handed to them. Some guys that sit quietly and don't react much to provocation yet may be deadly, but don't feel the need to attack until attacked.
The best fight is the one you can avoid. Egos get people hurt on a daily basis.
Agreed. People getting beaten and killed every day 365 because of out of control egos.
@Yalda Ugle I fail to see why you say that or how you saying it to a complete stranger in a comment section is relevant to anything. If it makes you feel better to think you would, then go ahead though.
@@JLewis1979
Can’t make sense of the nonsensical. Internet can be a strange place. A fantasy world for some.
@Yalda Ugle If it makes you feel better to believe it, go ahead. The fact that you are randomly on here talking trash to someone that you don't even know and has done nothing to you shows that more than likely you're an insecure person with some serious issues, or possibly just a troll. Either way, have a nice day/night.
@@tomd1434 Truth. I guess he thinks he's gaining some kind of clout by talking like that to random people. Who knows?
I'm a boxer that doesn't have cauliflower ears, a mashed nose or overly calloused knuckles (we wrap our hands and use gloves). A true fighter keeps his distance from the aggressor and calmly waits for the storm to arrive and prepares to act quickly if he/she deems it necessary.
I love how informations and have learned a lot. He said know long hair but a big weakness if your a fighter is a beard! Dragged down and pinned instantly
One thing I always picked up on (im speaking for myself now ) 90% of the time its the one who never causes the fight or antagonize the situation........again my friends im speaking for myself and believe me there are legends in there own mind out there
I have experience in street fights. I will automatically scan the person to asses the situation and the first thing I will look is where the hand goes. If the hand goes into the pocket or to the back of the body, you know something is up. By the way I train in Judo and BJJ . I love this channel. You got a sub.
Or if he quietly takes his watch and rings off, whilst talking, and puts them in his jeans pocket.
I do some MMA training and listening to some of these have given me little details that have helped in sparring. Looking for arm twitch hip movement things like that.
Bashed knuckles, short hair, twisted posture, reasonable coordination - sounds like a mechanic.
Just gotta keep an eye out for the mangy ears, I got mine from genetics long before I started training though.
Calm, quiet, fit, and eyes that have seen violence.
You should see it if you have trained yourself.
If you are a fighter yourself, you will see it.
Absolutely, it's a subconscious observation all fighters make, we size up potential dance partners and we dont even realize it. Vibes
The last comment had me smiling, excellent tactic!
Very good