Thanks for sharing. Glad the drver helped. As Mr. Ron Pratt(Midwest Towing) says:"Slow Down & Move Over!" When you see these guys on sites. So many are being killed by careless drivers.
Would have, could have, should have. You sure have a lot of armchair quarterbacks. What I saw was someone that looked at the situation, came up with a plan and worked your plan. Very good work.
Some real problem solving in the field, good solution. My cousin in Minnesota drives milk tanker in a similar configuration as the last truck, he would have to drop his trailer to get into some dairies. It is what it is.
I went down a winding narrow 3/4 mile road to a business that doesn’t get a lot if any truck traffic just to find out they closed early that day. I’m pulling a 6 axle flatbed with pallets of salt and a moffet hanging off the back. I decide I will try the small turnaround outside the gate but my lift axles hang up on the crown of the road even though they are lifted. Had to make the call of shame to get a cable tug from a wrecker to pull me 10’.
A few years back I worked for a gravel company in the midwest that bought 3 California dumps with transfer trailers. Tongue/front trailer axle turntable and pintle hook made backing them up 90% impossible. Lost count of how many times we ended up with drivers (me included) stranded in cul de sac and dead end land
Then transfer trailers can be spun on a dime! I lost count how many times I manually drug the dolly around to the side as far as I could, then hooked er up to turn around. All tooofyen dispatch would send us out to do good deliveries, & assure us we could turn around. We'd get to the location & be stuck at a dead end road. Granted a solo wagon such as a transfer truck is a while different game than doubles!
It makes sense to leave the rotator for work that requires a rotator. It also makes sense for its use to call for a higher invoice if it's actually doing work requiring a rotator.
I've heard of backing double trailers. Dad knew a guy in Cali all he ever pulled was pups he could back up a set into the dock drop the back one then put the lead in the door as well.
Your John Deere keys would have started one of those tractors.😉 Hook a heavy chain into the pintle hitch and let it drag behind to keep the tongue in line. Even better if you have something heavy to hook to it.
Batteries in the light bar. I personally would look at modifying the bar to accept common batteries. Make replacement easier. Would have to know the setup to offer modification suggestions.
@Samuel Lim If they are 6v 7ahr SLAs, then they are a dime a dozen online- I just bought three, had literally hundreds of choices to choose from... commonly used in alarm systems, emergency lighting and the like...
Good work young man especially taking your time working through limited options and making it work safely and smoothly. That driver made the right choice eating humble pie which sucks we've all been there, some drivers mighta made matters worse delaying the humble pie and trying to get yerself outta what you got yurself inta. Usually goes bad to worse insteada jist eating the humble pie.
Fun story I'll share becuase this reminded me of the time this happen to me! Lol i was hualing hay with a dolly type double trailer set on a county road they pulled up the culvert didn't put up any signs so I had to detach my pup back 3 miles the road was surrounded by wet land so no turning around then detach my front trailer go get the pup pull the dolly out back it it up then drop it go get the dolly and hook it all back up then I went down a road with an outlet
Seems like the tanker company should fit pintle hitches to the tractor unit so in this instant he could get the first trailer out onto the street, drop it, take the tractor back in and back the trailer out, then hook everything back up.
Thought on the dolly trailer. Could you have sucked the draw bar all the way in and locked the rear of the trailer square to the truck? Regardless it came out nice and square. As you said, reversing a combo that short would have been very difficult.
When I drove for AAA we had MDT's for in truck computers I'd like to know what AAA uses now with technology being far more advanced than it was when I drove Maybe you could do a video on that
as of a couple years ago (right before 'rona hit and lock downs started) the side gig I was at, was using the AAA dispatch program on the inhouse computer and the company dispatcher would send the calls to the individual drivers, and the drivers had tablets pretty sure they were ipads, they had to sign in with their log in codes so AAA knew who was driving and such, and could send messages directly to the tablet should the customer cancel the call or call back with some sort of other update. However, since lock downs and such I have lost the side gig(understandable I was by that time, the per diem kinda guy but was there the longest) and do not know what they currently use.
Does the company not have pintle hooks on the rear of the trucks? If they did, it is possible to reverse a trailer like that. I do it all the time as a transfer truck driver. This would require breaking the set down to have the tractor on the rear trailing unit. It would have been a LOT of work, but far cheaper, & less time than a wrecker. NOT bad mouthing, but just saying.
Trent, if you are able to do so let us know what you think of the Hino's both as a driver and owner. Keep-em-Comin enjoy your videos. Old tower here wonder how they compare to International, Freightliner and such. (we were an international shop)
The Hinos are far superior in my opinion. Considerably less problems with our hinos than the freight liners and less costly to run. Only downsides are the freightliners tend to handle a little more weight and in our case have extra seating although hino now has the extended cab version
Ours are as well. I guess I didn’t do a good job explaining that the batteries went bad meaning they no longer were taking a full charge. Sorry for the confusion
In Germany every Trucker with turntabel trailer could back that thing out Some tractor drivers even back 2 Turntables around a coner the driving very slow but they can
never been around any of the heavy haulers i have a old holmes 500 which has 2-20,000lb winches no under lift. hard to believe that the under sling wouldn't break under that much weight especially loaded
Provided the finders cleared the underside of the tanker why couldn't you air up the trailer, tie to the pintle ring and spin around on rear axle in its place?
Great vid as always JR- So... The Pete wrecker that you were driving before ya'll got the rotator...is it gone, or do you guys still have it? Stay safe buddy!!!
If the customer truck had a pintle hook, could have had him drop the lead trailer and come in and put tension on the drawbar while you dragged it all backwards.
I would have used the cahins you had, tossed them over your lift, then hookem underneath the lift and it would have secured it for this pull. That would have been a lot easier to do.
👍Great video as usual! Just a question about that last tow, why not drive in front with the 35T, hook it up (I guess there's a way to do that) and reverse it out slowly? I'm not sure I'm explaining it clearly, something like this: ruclips.net/video/Sk7sRHSRTa8/видео.html
@@plazatowing Just takes practice lol... (some of our ozzie drivers can back a 'triple road train' ie 3 fifth wheels and two pintle hooks and selectively jacknife a particular trailer to load sheep or cattle over the drawbar without unhooking- takes a lot of practice to be able to do it!!! lol) funny to see the back trailer's back end sitting in front of the prime mover!!!- backing a towed bdub (two trailers with two fifth wheels- one on the prime mover and one on the 'A trailer') is a common need for our heavy haulage units here...
This is the best program on television!
OK, well, not TV but RUclips. Even the commercials are entertaining...
Thanks for sharing. Glad the drver helped. As Mr. Ron Pratt(Midwest Towing) says:"Slow Down & Move Over!" When you see these guys on sites. So many are being killed by careless drivers.
Good job Trent glad to see that the driver help you out also everyone please work safe
Great video of one of your busy days! Never a dull moment in the towing business! Thanks for taking us along!
Good to see the driver give you a hand. Also working the shovel to get the dolly around the corner.
Setting a good example. A mark of a great leader. 👍
Totally amazed by your experience. Ive developed a new respect for your profession. Keep safe out there 🙏
Would have, could have, should have. You sure have a lot of armchair quarterbacks. What I saw was someone that looked at the situation, came up with a plan and worked your plan. Very good work.
I enjoyed this video. Thank you for this report.
I like the phrase you said, ''get all wonky'' 🤣
Nice 👍 video Trent and what a good job on the trailer well worked out a little thinking time save’s a heap of headaches lol
Nice video again Trent. And respect to that driver for being as cool as he was!
Awesome job man did heavy duty towing with bp towing I know what it takes to do some heavy duty towing. Great job man keep it up
Yep! Always something different to deal with! 😎
Some real problem solving in the field, good solution. My cousin in Minnesota drives milk tanker in a similar configuration as the last truck, he would have to drop his trailer to get into some dairies. It is what it is.
I went down a winding narrow 3/4 mile road to a business that doesn’t get a lot if any truck traffic just to find out they closed early that day. I’m pulling a 6 axle flatbed with pallets of salt and a moffet hanging off the back. I decide I will try the small turnaround outside the gate but my lift axles hang up on the crown of the road even though they are lifted. Had to make the call of shame to get a cable tug from a wrecker to pull me 10’.
Great video clip. The trailer rescue was well executed.
A few years back I worked for a gravel company in the midwest that bought 3 California dumps with transfer trailers. Tongue/front trailer axle turntable and pintle hook made backing them up 90% impossible. Lost count of how many times we ended up with drivers (me included) stranded in cul de sac and dead end land
Then transfer trailers can be spun on a dime! I lost count how many times I manually drug the dolly around to the side as far as I could, then hooked er up to turn around. All tooofyen dispatch would send us out to do good deliveries, & assure us we could turn around. We'd get to the location & be stuck at a dead end road.
Granted a solo wagon such as a transfer truck is a while different game than doubles!
If there's slightly than a one lane road, it'll be possible to spin er around without danages
That was a cool pull on that trailer
It makes sense to leave the rotator for work that requires a rotator. It also makes sense for its use to call for a higher invoice if it's actually doing work requiring a rotator.
I've heard of backing double trailers. Dad knew a guy in Cali all he ever pulled was pups he could back up a set into the dock drop the back one then put the lead in the door as well.
It takes one hell of a driver to backup a set of doubles For more than 15 or 20'.
my brother and I used to haul hay and several times we had to put a come along between the trailers on both sides and backed up about 40 yards
Good job and thinking out of the box on the trailer/dolly.
Be kind everyone No one’s perfect
That is using Your experience.
Your John Deere keys would have started one of those tractors.😉 Hook a heavy chain into the pintle hitch and let it drag behind to keep the tongue in line. Even better if you have something heavy to hook to it.
Batteries in the light bar. I personally would look at modifying the bar to accept common batteries. Make replacement easier. Would have to know the setup to offer modification suggestions.
@Samuel Lim If it them, those look like really easy to get.
I'd just make a patch harness. So I only needed to worry about the physical size.
@Samuel Lim If they are 6v 7ahr SLAs, then they are a dime a dozen online- I just bought three, had literally hundreds of choices to choose from... commonly used in alarm systems, emergency lighting and the like...
Plaza always handles.. gonna need that on a t-shirt bud
I wish more young people were positive and courteous as you are don’t change your doing a van tastic job in life
Ok boomer
good video, keep the videos coming
Cool that was something I'd never seen before good job Trent.
That rotator is beauty!
Good job! Looks like that unit also needs a remote for the underreach.?
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Good work young man especially taking your time working through limited options and making it work safely and smoothly. That driver made the right choice eating humble pie which sucks we've all been there, some drivers mighta made matters worse delaying the humble pie and trying to get yerself outta what you got yurself inta. Usually goes bad to worse insteada jist eating the humble pie.
Fun story I'll share becuase this reminded me of the time this happen to me! Lol i was hualing hay with a dolly type double trailer set on a county road they pulled up the culvert didn't put up any signs so I had to detach my pup back 3 miles the road was surrounded by wet land so no turning around then detach my front trailer go get the pup pull the dolly out back it it up then drop it go get the dolly and hook it all back up then I went down a road with an outlet
If you ever get stuck and can't back out a double... "Call The Mall" (RUclips channel) Dude is a master.
If the frame is bent that much that it caused the driveline to break. Is that even repairable or is the truck a write off?
Be nice to truckers they are the ones that move everything we use.
Including your mom
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If you had a hitch on the front of your truck you could push the trailer. Very easy to hook the air and push it away.
Trent is this flatbed wrecker a hydraulic break truck with air parking break
Seems like the tanker company should fit pintle hitches to the tractor unit so in this instant he could get the first trailer out onto the street, drop it, take the tractor back in and back the trailer out, then hook everything back up.
I probably would have run chains from the dolly to the rear axle to keep the dolly from turning. safe and secure.
Does plaza towing have any plans to buy a DTU?
Thought on the dolly trailer.
Could you have sucked the draw bar all the way in and locked the rear of the trailer square to the truck?
Regardless it came out nice and square.
As you said, reversing a combo that short would have been very difficult.
Today 2/11/2022. Trent was your Co called out on the wreck this AM on I40 W/B?. Some kind of mess. Az exit 1. Stay safe.
When I drove for AAA we had MDT's for in truck computers I'd like to know what AAA uses now with technology being far more advanced than it was when I drove
Maybe you could do a video on that
as of a couple years ago (right before 'rona hit and lock downs started) the side gig I was at, was using the AAA dispatch program on the inhouse computer and the company dispatcher would send the calls to the individual drivers, and the drivers had tablets pretty sure they were ipads, they had to sign in with their log in codes so AAA knew who was driving and such, and could send messages directly to the tablet should the customer cancel the call or call back with some sort of other update. However, since lock downs and such I have lost the side gig(understandable I was by that time, the per diem kinda guy but was there the longest) and do not know what they currently use.
@@Ricochet845 thank you
backing tandems is like trying ti push a rope.
The jams! Money ain't nothing.. tows aren't free!
Does the company not have pintle hooks on the rear of the trucks? If they did, it is possible to reverse a trailer like that. I do it all the time as a transfer truck driver. This would require breaking the set down to have the tractor on the rear trailing unit. It would have been a LOT of work, but far cheaper, & less time than a wrecker. NOT bad mouthing, but just saying.
I would have though pintles on the tractor unit is not that common, unless it's something the company uses often.
@@agentcrm companies that frequently build &/or dismantle doubles usually have them. I presume being a take company they don't deal trailers a lot.
@@pnwRC. Yup, I'm in Australia. So they're a lot more common with our road trains.
I'm guessing that company only brakes trailers in the yard.
TRENT YOU GOTTA EXPLAIN A ..FLATBED IS A ROLLBACK😁😁.... IT'S FUNNY TO ME WHEN I HEAR OTHER CHANNELS CALL IT A ROLLBACK 😂😂
Almost like backing a farm wagon if you hook it by the pintel
Trent, if you are able to do so let us know what you think of the Hino's both as a driver and owner. Keep-em-Comin enjoy your videos. Old tower here wonder how they compare to International, Freightliner and such. (we were an international shop)
The Hinos are far superior in my opinion. Considerably less problems with our hinos than the freight liners and less costly to run. Only downsides are the freightliners tend to handle a little more weight and in our case have extra seating although hino now has the extended cab version
On that tanker pup. Bet you wished it had a set of landing gears!
Backing doubles? Chain the donkey and call Jessica Larssen, she's been driving and backing doubles since she was a kid!
Are light bar is rechargeable and we just plug it in the heavy in the box when ever we don’t use it 👍
Ours are as well. I guess I didn’t do a good job explaining that the batteries went bad meaning they no longer were taking a full charge. Sorry for the confusion
@@plazatowing you are good I wasn’t sure if urs was different , love the videos keep up the good work and be safe out there !
@@plazatowing also what length of chains do you use for wrapping the frames to the boom ?
Good ingenuity
Why is the 35-ton showing a check engine light?
I do like your videos
Good video, use too drive truck most of my life stuff happens oh yes it does
What’s intro song?
In Germany every Trucker with turntabel trailer could back that thing out
Some tractor drivers even back 2 Turntables around a coner the driving very slow but they can
never been around any of the heavy haulers i have a old holmes 500 which has 2-20,000lb winches no under lift. hard to believe that the under sling wouldn't break under that much weight especially loaded
Provided the finders cleared the underside of the tanker why couldn't you air up the trailer, tie to the pintle ring and spin around on rear axle in its place?
Great vid as always JR- So... The Pete wrecker that you were driving before ya'll got the rotator...is it gone, or do you guys still have it? Stay safe buddy!!!
That's the other 35 tonne he referenced in the video, Roberto drives it now.
Dinner Time ....
Have yo0u ever done a tutorial on how to operate a roll back , 1 ton or a rotator? ,Or am I just looking at the wrong videos/
Bro you didn't put a lightbar on! Towfail. #Demotion 😂😂 (kidding of course)
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Not rechargeable?
It happens.
If the customer truck had a pintle hook, could have had him drop the lead trailer and come in and put tension on the drawbar while you dragged it all backwards.
If the customer's truck had a pintle hook he could've just backed it out himself
very good job . time for dinner
Yep!
I would have used the cahins you had, tossed them over your lift, then hookem underneath the lift and it would have secured it for this pull. That would have been a lot easier to do.
been in the game 50 yrs, never use just straps as primary securement, they will rip right off in an emergency, must use chains,!
NEVER GiVE UP.🎹
LMAO, I can back three trailers out. You have to remember how Gears work, One goes Left the Next right. It will follow suit if you are careful.
Just a matter of Physic's Very simple when you learn to follow suite. I won in Trucking Rodeo's backing units in Kansas.
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Why not set up your light bars for rechargeable batteries. Should be simple. Just plug it in when not in use.
They are setup in rechargeable docks but after about 1-2 years of constant discharge and charging they go bad
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Bad mouthing!!!! Lol
👍Great video as usual! Just a question about that last tow, why not drive in front with the 35T, hook it up (I guess there's a way to do that) and reverse it out slowly? I'm not sure I'm explaining it clearly, something like this: ruclips.net/video/Sk7sRHSRTa8/видео.html
I would still have to contend with the multiple pivot point
@@plazatowing A pintle on your front bumper would make that possible.
@@plazatowing Just takes practice lol... (some of our ozzie drivers can back a 'triple road train' ie 3 fifth wheels and two pintle hooks and selectively jacknife a particular trailer to load sheep or cattle over the drawbar without unhooking- takes a lot of practice to be able to do it!!! lol) funny to see the back trailer's back end sitting in front of the prime mover!!!- backing a towed bdub (two trailers with two fifth wheels- one on the prime mover and one on the 'A trailer') is a common need for our heavy haulage units here...
Nor worth the risk-time involved.
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