To answer some common comment questions: Yes, I no longer have lactose intolerance symptoms. Timeline: -- Pre-March 2020 lactose intolerance 3/10 symptoms with plain milk -- No milk March 2020 to September 2020 -- September 2020 lactose intolerance 8/10 symptoms with plain milk, 6/10 symptoms with lactose free milk -- Oct 2020 Two week powdered milk binge: started lactose intolerance 10/10 symptoms, ended 0/10 symptoms -- Nov 2024 lactose intolerance 0/10 symptoms with plain milk I haven't needed a "refresher". I have had milk fairly consistently ever since though. I drink milk tea 2-3 times a week plus cheese, yogurt etc. I haven't had any rounds of antibiotics and I do suspect that might set me back. I weirdly have issues with products where "whey" is an ingredient. So, for example, despite being able to have cream or home-made ice cream, I can't have most store-bought ice creams. Someone mentioned a casein protein issue which seems possible. People have brought up concerns about the brutal conditions of the dairy industry, which are valid. Going fully vegan is not a viable option due to financial, food access, or health-related reasons for many people, especially those who don't live in the metropolitan areas on the coasts of the US. I'm curious how those with ethics blockers consider the logic in this blog post. benthams.substack.com/p/if-youre-going-to-eat-animals-eat If it isn't feasible to be fully vegan, what does the most ethical consumption look like? Bonus TIJL from Thought Emporium's video, lactase is not one specific enzyme, it is just any enzyme that can break down lactose.
I’m not sure what an “ethics blocker” is, but I’m wondering what makes you say it isn’t feasible to go fully vegan (at least in regards to the dairy side of things). For the financial and food access problems you listed, wouldn’t producing more milk alternatives remove that problem? The thing is, producing milk alternatives is more economical than regular milk. They require far less water and far less land to produce than regular milk. It’s just that people have been making and consuming regular milk for millennia. If more people made milk alternatives then those milk alternatives would be cheaper and more plentiful than regular milk. It’s simple supply and demand. For the health related point. What health problems are there specifically? The only direct health problem that milk alternatives have that I can see is allergies but dairy allergies are just as common as tree nut and soy allergies. Even then the prevalence of food allergies in the U.S. is less than 10% of the population. Meaning most people can have a vegan milk substitute just fine. But having said that, I definitely see the problem of saying milk alternatives will be feasible in the future as opposed to their viability right now. And if there are any other problems you have with milk alternatives I’d like to hear them.
After a round of strong antibiotics, I suddenly became lactose intolerant. Half a cup of ice cream would send me running to the toilet. Some years later, I started drinking kefir for the probiotic benefits. In small amounts, on a regular basis. After a few months, I tried ice cream again and this time - no problem! Give kefir a shot!
Without the DNA that produce the s*** needed to break down lactose you physically cannot overcome your intolerance ever. There are pills that are made of viruses that inject the DNA into the cells of your body and your body will replicate that DNA for a couple generations allowing you to break down lactose. If you're intolerant you don't have this DNA you can't become tolerant
After a long, hard day, there's nothing like opening RUclips and listening to someone talk about chugging powdered milk for two weeks straight and how it gave them the shits.
Me and my wife are french. We got lactose intolerant a little bit before lockdown, which is the biggest curse you can ever be branded with as a french. One day, after a few years of massive disappointment by lactose-free alternatives, I was just fed up and started adding cheese, butter, yoghurt and fresh milk into my diet, and after a few difficult weeks... I was just fine and dandy! It felt like starting with cheese was less harsh on me, and now I know why. Quite the fascinating video, may I say!
Question is, how did you managed to stop eating lactose in the first place, to become intolerant? Si tu manges du fromage tout les jours, tu as pas besoin de redémarrer ta production de lactase ?
@@Nyli. Par pur concours de circonstance, je me suis juste retrouvé à en manger moins souvent, et la simple baisse de quantité m'a visiblement flingué à ce moment-là
Intéressant à savoir ! mais je ne peux pas essayer au vu de mon syndrome des intestins irritables... La simple crème fraîche ou coca cola ou cacahuètes me provoquent d'horribles douleurs etc.... Perméabilité détruite
We took radically different approaches to this problem, but I respect the hell out of the commitment. This must have been a nightmare 2 weeks, but the results.... worth it.
Just watched your update video and omg yes fuck lactose as an additive!! I've noticed that nearly all ice cream these days has lactose and whey as individual ingredients. They makes it taste "creamy" but are much cheaper than cream. Since whey still bothers me, I still can't eat most ice cream...
The guy who injected himself with a homemade virus and the girl who dared personally follow a fringe research paper from the 90's--both to solve the same dire human flaw--in the same place??
I think I might've accidentally done this to myself as a kid. I became lactose intolerant, hated the dairy-free lifestyle, and protested my body by just eating tons of ice cream. Eventually, my body just accepted milk and I poop normally to this day.
My mom developed a gluten AND a lactose intolerance. and since I knew I was genetically likely to suffer the safe fate, the MOMENT i noticed i got indigestion from ice cream, I took the gloves off. In one week, i downed the full gallon pail of ice cream, half a gallon of milk (didn't just straight drink it, i added it to cereal, oatmeal, scalloped potatoes n ham, etc.) 2 pizzas, buncha high dairy dense foods. and I would spend minimum of 1 hr a day on the john, but the results were worth. No intolerance to this day :)
Same here. I distinctly remember beginning to get stomach aches in high school whenever I drank milk. But I just kept drinking it anyways because that's all they had at school lunch. And eventually it just kind of stopped.
Fun fact: Even people with genes for lactase persistence can develop temporary lactose intollerance. Gene expression is activated when lactose is present but needs a while to ramp up and down, so if you stop consuming milk for a while you will become lactose intollerant. To regain tollerance without major symptoms it's necessary to slowly consume increasing amounts over the course of 1-2 weeks. Tollerance can be obtained far more quickly and with fewer symptoms than in people who only rely on their gut biome. Edit: oh god o-o you did not do that slow increase thing
Yeah, I think it's more likely that she just reactivated the gene expression that already existed. The paper she references is talking about sub-saharan Africans, who don't have the gene expression for lactase to begin with. If she was already drinking milk as an adult without issue, she probably has the gene for tolerance. I went through a period as a teenager where I ate very little dairy and became lactose intolerant. My dad told me, for years, that if I just drank enough milk/ate enough dairy that it would come back, because I had the gene for it. I did not believe him, but then I started drinking coffee in college with halfnhalf and lo and behold, I no longer had tummy troubles whenever I drank a frappuccino or ate ice cream.
"So, if you smell the same farts for long enough, you basically stop smelling them. ... Or, at least that's what I told my roommates." Now that's a gem.
@@mahpell7173 it's a medical Legend, Darth HGModernism was a Dark lord of the doctors, so powerful and so wise. they could use science to influence the gut biome to alter their immunity. they had such a knowledge of science they could even cure the ones they cared about from lactose intolerance.
Well I will leech here, as most likely my comment would not be visible to anyone. My mother had that problem too. After some reading I decided to test if mix of wormwood cloves walnut skin would fix the problem. Basically bought tincture online for pennies, mixed the recommended dosage with glass of milk and mom drank it twice per day. No problems after a week. Try it out yourself. It costs maybe 20-30usd
Reminds me of Barry H Marshall- an Australian doctor jointly responsible with Robert Warren for proving that stomach ulcers were caused by a bacterial infection. After their initial paper on the subject was poorly received, they decided they needed more proof. Deliberately infecting someone with the suspect bacterium was obviously unethical... with one exception. Medical ethics don't allow deliberately harmful experimentation on patients, but harmful SELF EXPERIMENTATION is a grey area. Marshall deliberately infected himself with Helicobacter Pylori, and subsequently developed a peptic ulcer, before taking strong antibiotics to cure himself. Not only did it revolutionise the treatment of stomach ulcers, but Marshall and Warren subsequently won the Nobel Prize for Medicine in 2005.
@@DanJanTube What drugs are you on? The way they talk is very different. Aside from being women, and Jenny having higher pitch, thinner and, in my opinion, whinier voice. Their presentation is also quite different. Also, Hendry has more expression in her voice, or dynamics if you prefer. Jenny sounds like she's rushing to tell you a lot, very fast. Understandable since her videos are about ten years long (I've never bothered to watch one from start to finish) whereas Hendry from this one video (the only one I've seen from her) seems to add a lot more strategic pauses, and tone of voice into her speech.
I'm super curious about the distribution of these buckets: -- energy you could have gained but the bacteria stole -- energy you did not have the enzymes/capacity to access anyway -- energy you gained by the bacteria breaking things down into components you can access with rather fascinating bucket of: -- energy you got from digesting the bacteria that died
@@HGModernismAsked chatGPT not because I trust it but for an initial pointer, and its answer makes sense: Most of our microbiome is in the large intestine, and nutrients like sugars and fats are mostly absorbed before they ever get that far. "However, some 'resistant' starches, polyphenols, and fiber reach the large intestine, where bacteria break them down into short-chain fatty acids (SCFAs) like butyrate, acetate, and propionate. We absorb these SCFAs, which provide an estimated 5-10% of our daily caloric intake." So it seems they might provide way more for us than the other way around.
@@HGModernismThere's also the category of "energy not extracted due to insufficient gut length / excessive gut motility", basically all the stuff (including live bacteria) that is in principle digestible but that you poop out before it's actually suggested. @OP: Technically, you don't even need to say "bacteria" in "bacteria shit", because human shit is just bacteria plus bacteria shit (and I guess whatever the bacteria didn't get to, like the random corn kernels).
Combat vet. lots of guys became intolerant after deployment, and I told them to just deal with it after returning home, to build up tolerance again. and it worked.
@@i.i.iiii.i.i there were opportunities to get some dairy, but less than you might think. lots of highly processed foods, not real food. also, we were frontline combat unit, not some support unit in the rear. We didn't have as good of living conditions and lots of time spent in the field. A single mission could last days. I told guys to get dairy in their diet any chance they could while deployed.
@@i.i.iiii.i.i If you want lactose that's shelf stable and easy to get, pop rocks are made with lactose in addition to regular sugar because the lactose is less hydroscopic, which makes the pop rocks take longer to dissolve and improves the popping sensation.
Being a lactose intolerant for 10y, with medical exams showing I digest no lactose. Symptoms included migraines and nausea, even if I take lactase pills. 16 days ago I started introducing some lactose after watching your video, in the form of yogurt (to be more probiotic), 4 days later a slice of cheese, raising the quantity everyday. Not cured yet but minimum side effects and almost normal life. Thank you for the video ❤ I’ve also started taking these probiotics to help: Lactobacillus bulgaricus 2 bi, Lactobacillus gasseri 1 bi, Lactobacillus paracasei 1 bi I’ll keep my results updated in this comment thread. 🚀
I actually did this after a round of antibiotics. Instead of just raw dogging milk though, I started w a probiotic of lactobacillus to get the bacteria in me. Then I went into kefir yogurt and chugged that to keep up the lactobacillus populations, and then I could move onto milk.
Kimchi, yogurt, kefir, apple sauce, probiotic tablets, and kombucha for a month after a round of antibiotics killed off my gut bacteria. Went from liquid only and 5+ day digestion cycle, back to solid food in a month.
Possibly raw milk would help too. I think quite a lot of people who can't drink pasteurised milk are fine with raw milk, even more so if in the form of another dairy product with lower lactose. Because milk has evolved to aid digestion of itself. It might be good for starting tolerance up again.
Fascinating, because in my country where a lot of people consume dairy on a daily basis, i was pretty surprised to find out that a huge population of the earth in lactose intolerant when i got access to internet, because before that i've never seen or met anyone who can't drink milk or consume dairy product.
Probably was more of the likes: Enough human milk, drink goat. Kid A can no longer drink goat milk, otherwise gets diarrhea. Its weak. Kid B can no longer drink goat milk, gets diarrhea, dies. kid C drinks goat milk. Little kid gets stronger. Kid C becomes Adult. Kid C reproduces.
@@DowlphinThe ability to consume lactose in Eurasia is speculated by anthropologists to be a result of nomadic Indoeuropeans consuming milk products in spite of indigestion. Whether it's genes or gut biome, the trait was passed down throughout the population. It literally comes up in the video. Just admit you didn't get the joke.
The lactase enzymes we treat milk with to produce lactose free milk are really effective, if you still had symptoms with lactose free milk, you likely suffer from both lactose intolerance _and_ an allergy to some milk proteins, most likely in the fat-soluble fragment of the milk: casein, but whey allergies also aren't uncommon.
@amandak.4246 Is there evidence for any mechanism that produces "milk protein intolerance" that isn't mediated by IgG or IgE activation of the complement cascade?
@@IntensiverPinguinYou lashing out at people and being so negative isn't going to make anyone support your cause. Learn to keep your emotions to yourself next time.
LMAO I DID THE SAME THING. I started drinking a glass of full milk, and used to get SEVERE diarrhea. I pushed through it for a couple of months and now I can drink more than a liter of full milk on an empty stomach with no issue. LOL.
Why am i watching a blonde Rachel Dratch explain the inner workings of milk chugging to build up the intestinal biome. She even did the debbie downer face at 0:23
I had this hypothesis myself a few years ago, but instead of lactose I used Inulin. After some testing I found Inulin to be way more tolerable, because for some reason it produces less of an osmotic gradient in your large intestine - you can take more with less side effects. Then I took up to 50g a day for a year with all the health benefits, and no side effects after ~2 weeks. Now I'm functionally cured of my lactose intolerance, I can drink milk, eat milk products even if I stopped taking the Inulin. (Now I'm still taking the it just for its health benefits). People never believe me when I tell them that I cured my lactose intolerance, since it used to be SO bad in my case. So, thank you I'm really happy to have stumbled upon your video (and that study)!!! Love your channel
Inulin has less of an osmotic effect in your intestines, because it is a way larger molecule. A gram of lactose contains way more molecules than a gram of inulin. That means the osmotic effect per gram you consume is way lower for inulin, since it depends on the number of molecules, not on the mass.
how is inulin related to lactose intolerance? Chicory root? quick search said it may increase microbiome activity... but known for its room clearing gas. I dont understand the link.
He purposely used a virus that wouldn’t be able to replicate so the modification only existed in the original cells which slowly got replaced by new cells without the modification. He said that his goal is to eventually go through the proper research process to approve that technique for humans. He hasn’t updated on any progress for a while. He has so many ongoing projects that I wish there was a spreadsheet with them all and whether more work in planned, in progress, not planned, etc
@@brycemw Given how many people lactose intolerant, I think this would be a super important cure. But I also feel this needs a very expensive and extensive testing which can only be afforded by a huge pharmaceutical company.
It was never expected to be permanent, he knew it would wear off. This wouldn't be a huge problem by itself, you'd just repeat the treatment once a year, but if I remember correctly the real problem is that the treatment essesntially acts as a vaccine for the virus that was used as template, teaching your immune system to recognize the viral envelope and attack it the next time you'd try to use the treatment.
How do a person look so stylish and suave while talking about something as as unpalatable as lactose intolerance, haha? Also I love how the moose horns are a center piece of the background ever since that video!
Yep, the lactose-free milk didn't work that well because the manufacturer cheaped out and went with "ehh, probably enough" amount. A different manufacturer may have resulted in no problems. In my experience, price and brand prevalence does not correlate to the quality of their de-lactose-ization prowess sadly.
Lactase supplements are much more effective in my experience. I guess the conditions in the human gut are much more favorable for enzymatic breakdown. It's not like you can safely raise the temperature of milk. One of the things I want to crowdsource / try one day is making my own lactase supplements from diy fermented koji mold. I've been using the supplements for over ten years now with great success.
no, to be able to label a product lactose free you have adhere to pretty strict numbers. maybe it is different in the US, but in the EU, lactose-free is pretty "safe". my guess is that she actually has some issues with other milk proteins (that's why she is reacting to whey products, which should contain very little lactose). proteins can also be digested or predigested by bacteria and enzymes, so forcing your body to get used to it, might actually work for those too.
what? in my country (eu) you can only label something as lactose free when it actually is. i am assuming you're from the us, even when i went there i didn't have any problems with lactose free milk and i always bought the cheapest one
You can tell by the taste if the reaction worked - sugars content didn't really increase but it becomes way sweeter. Because lactose isn't all that sweet to taste when it's split to other sugars milk sweetness at least quadruples
@@viktorreiter8811 anecdotal I can say that I cannot consume lactose free milk but can drink normal milk if I take lactase supplements in sufficient amounts
this is quickly becoming one of my favourite youtube channels. frequent well researched videos on niche and interesting topics????? you're awesome. this also directly relates to me bc i am also lactose intolerant lol.
Milk is kind of useless. Many people also tolerate quality cheeses and yoghurts quite well despite having intolerance so I don't think you're necessarily missing much.
my favourite whale milk fact is that the consistency allows some whales to shoot the milk out at pretty high speeds, which is essential when feeding your children who have no lips underwater
This channel is basically the anti-version of FleshSimulator, both super informative in a way that borders on compulsive but this is just super chill by comparison
If you or anyone else needs to do this again start with galacto-oligosaccharides (the beta linked kind), these are long strains of galactose molecules that humans can't digest but are digestible by lacto- and bifibacteria, consuming this for a week before the milk would have likely primed the gut enough to prevent the worst symptoms of drinking milk. It can be found online as a powder.
I've always wondered if you can "cure" lactose intolerance because I've seen sources claim that more than 90% of East Asians are lactose intolerant, but personally I grew up in China and everyone seemed to drink milk just fine, someone told me that local milk in China are lactose free by default and that might be true, but even when people get more expensive imported milk that I'm certain aren't lactose free, they still drink it without lactose intolerance symptoms. I guess most Chinese people must've brute forced their supposed lactose intolerance away by just drinking dairy products a lot.
yes, babies can digest lactose but if you dooont have continual exposure you will lose the ability to digest it or can only handle a small amount. I also cured mine butt in a mart way, you can buy lactase drops and add them to normal milk to turn it LF. But 2L will take about ten drops. then each week put one less drop in, until you are putting just one in, and run out of drops. You are now lactose tolerant.
Chinese don't drink very much milk though. Maybe regional? Maybe they are drinking some heavily processed form with it broken down? I don't think fresh milk is commonly available in China, seems like UHT and powdered, so it may have other things done to it.
There's a big deal about "type B" milk from a different breed of Holstein cows. And when I lived in NZ I had no problems (I'm incredibly lactose interolerant). Ive also had "New Zealand" imported cheese with no problems.
Going by my personal experience, I had some symptoms of lactose intolerance as a kid. But kid me didn’t care and kept eating dairies and drinking milk (my parents also didn’t knew enough to care so) and eventually I just stop having those symptoms.
Can confirm. As a teen I had pretty bad lactose intolerance but I loved ice cream and chocolate way too much so I would take these lactase pills to digest lactose better. However I was too lazy to remember to take the pill every time and would pay the price, but eventually I noticed that I didn't need the lactase at all with increasing amounts of lactose. I always attributed it to eating so much lactose that my body just got used to it, seems like I might have been right.
I'd recommend you check out The Thought Emporium video on how he treated his lactose intolerance. He used a virus to make a home brewed gene therapy. It was based off a paper titled "Peroral gene therapy of lactose intolerance using an adeno-associated virus vector" by During, Xu, et al.
Yes, yes, excellent idea to suggest a paper to our wonderfully quirky host who says, “So of course I read this paper, and I had to try it myself”! YES!
Has there been any updates on this? His method was a bit unprofessional and there's doubt to whether he actually did what he claimed. If he did do it then we're 7 years on by now and I'd love to know what complications he's seen if any
If you are experiencing issues with whey only from protein bars, you could be sensitive to sugar alcohols in those bars and not the whey. Really cool video, as a milk enjoyer i applaud you getting the message out that milk enjoyment can be for everyone!
My mother in law did something similar to overcome her lactose intolerance. (Anecdotal evidence, I know.) I was sure it wouldn’t work - like, is it going to change your genes? But that was before I learned it works by helping colonize your intestine with lactose-digesting bacteria. One thing to note is if someone goes too long without consuming lactose, it can starve out the bacteria and cause their symptoms to return.
Hi! I have a very similar story from this August/September! I caught Covid and spent the month not consuming dairy to avoid overloading myself with mucus. I looked into as many research papers as I could, and quickly learned something. Humans generally stop producing lactase (the enzyme that breaks down the lactose sugar) on their own around 4-5 years of age. Yet I'd never experienced an adverse reaction to lactose, meaning somehow, lactase had been in abundance within my digestive system before, and was no longer there. Doing some more research, I found that lactose intolerant folks had an easier time with yogurt due to it containing bacteria that breaks down lactose, and everything clicked. Perhaps my microbiome had previously had a thriving population of a lactose-digesting (ergo lactase-producing) bacteria, and my time without milk had starved the population. To test this hypothesis, I started a four week plan: Week 1: 1 cup Greek yogurt p/day to reintroduce the bacteria in small amounts, 0.5 cup milk p/day to feed it enough for it to reproduce without excess lactose screwing with my digestive system. Week 2: 1 cup milk p/day Week 3: 1.5 cup milk p/day Week 4: 2 cup milk p/day By the end, I was digesting dairy normally again! My stomach hasn't quite felt the same since losing whatever original population broke down lactose for me, but being able to consume dairy again is great!
@eldonad During the first two days of the experiment, my excrement smelled horrid. This symptom was resolved by the end of the first week. During the first week, I was gassier than usual. This symptom resolved itself during the second week. Throughout the duration of the experiment, my stomach was louder than usual. This symptom extended several weeks past the experiment. Interestingly, I did not experience painful diarrhea the way I had when trying to consume lactose after becoming intolerant prior to the experiment. I assume this is due to the initial small doses and gradual nature of the experiment.
Increadible video. As a fellow (or should I say formerly fellow) lactoes intolerant, this is absolutely fascinating. My intolarance sneaked up on me during covid as well and after making the switch to oat-milk I feel like I'm using my tolerance even faster, which keeps disrupting my celestial love for cheese. It's pretty interesting that you can regain or even build up a tolerance by sublimating your digestive tract. A friend of mine has become intolerant pretty much within a week, due to explosive diarrhea, maybe they should just relive the experience to become whole again.
I've heard on the YT channel: Jay Wanders Out, that there are some probiotics that populate the microbiome and digest the milk more tolerably, at least for small serve sizes. One was an expensive proprietary blend (Lacto-Freedom), but I saw other papers that named strains more generally available. I'm considering trying that path: targeted probiotics plus slowly increasing dairy products. I miss cheese. But it might be moot if I'm also allergic to the proteins as I remember my sinus congestion went down when I stopped eating dairy due to severe lactose intolerance.
Even though i kinda knew all that before, i still stayed till the end of the video, because i found you and your way of teaching very intesting and entertaining
In the UK (where Cheddar, the village where cheddar cheese was invented, is) we don't dye our cheddar cheese, but we do have red leicester which is quite similar to cheddar and is definitely dyed to make it "red" (it's more like the orange your cheddar is) We have so many good cheeses in the UK, you should come check them out!
You tell foreigners that the UK has more cheeses than France and that they're every bit as good, they absolutely don't believe it, even though it's true, I find.
Your channel really is a hidden gem. Especially the way you convey it is so artistic. You really got a feel for timing and subtle humor, keep doing that.
Subbed because I admire your determination. Seriously. Not enough people take the initiative to fix problems that are in their power to fix. This Dairy Therapy was an interesting experiement to learn about!
Glad I stumbled across this video. I learned I was lactose intolerant a few years ago. I had recently decided to use whole milk to help me reach my calorie goals and was drinking about half a gallon a day. At first it was pretty ridiculous on my stomach, but after a couple weeks, I was pretty much unaffected by it 🤷🏿♂️
Bonus Bonus Bonus Bonus fact: Pigeons actually produce milk! Flamingos and male Emperor Penguins have also independently evolved this trait. The milk, which isn't too far from mammalian milk, is produced in their throat and is um. ✨Regurgitated✨ for the chicks. As far as I know, this milk doesn't include lactose, so it might be an alternative for people who don't want to go through the Milk Slurry Extravaganza...
My initial reaction is fuck no, that sounds disgusting, but I'm pretty sure I would absolutely say that about regular cow milk if it wasn't readily available. I would take one for the team and try it if I had the opportunity.
I grew up in a country where powdered milk was way more common than regular milk, I remember as a kid I would make myself "dessert" by mixing powdered milk and just enough water for it to have sort of like a pudding consistency, sometimes I would also add some chocolate milk powder
Saw your video on Reddit (did not want to admit that), and ended up binging many of your very entertaining, informative, and funnier than hell videos. You have a gift of story telling coupled with a voracious appetite for knowledge, and that makes awesome entertainment. Keep it up. It's the kind of knowledge I like--sort of useful, sort not, but damn fun!
Re: the whey - one of my coworkers thought she was lactose intolerant, and just chose to have dairy anyway. Her doctor tested her recently and it turns out she is a little lactose intolerant, but mostly she is allergic to some if the milk proteins. It might be the same for you, that you have developed a but if an allergy to whey protein. Ive anecdotally found i grt allergy symptoms with some protein bars as well (and im very sad about it cause it tasted so dang good) Possibly because of the high whey content, but i havent narrowed that down sufficiently to say for sure yet. I do suspect the gut irritation from lactose intolerance might make us more likely to develop thar allergy though.
Hey, you really think I wouldn't go through this for pizza? That's crazy. This isn't a recommendation, but I WILL NOT BE SEPARATED FROM THE FOOD OF THE GODS.
After 8 years of plant-based vegan and 1.5 years of carnivore, I couldn’t even tolerate a piece of chocolate without the taste of spoiled milk, bloating, and stomach cramps. After watching your video, I ordered 5 kg of skim milk powder (55g of lactose per 100g) and dissolved 120g in 750ml of water three times a day. The first few days were tough, then it got a little better, and the last 2 days were nearly problem-free. Since then, I can tolerate milk, ice cream, and yogurt without the bad taste or discomfort. It’s a wonderful thing. Thank you for the information.
This brings up the hillarious image of what it must have taken for humanity to have EVOLVED lactose tolerance. Generation upon generation of people shitting themselves to death with the survivors only shitting themselves to extreme discomfort and eventually we have lactose tolerance.
I think it’s more likely that people were breastfed as young babies, and were weaned off of breast milk to animal milk, which might have been available in reasonable quantities as animals may have been around for other reasons (labor, meat, etc), and the child may have been too young to object if it did cause them discomfort, and in fact, they may have still had lactose tolerance, at that point, letting them build up the gut bacteria naturally while they were still able to comfortably take in milk. In other words, they may never have gone through a period where they knowingly suffered discomfort from lactose, so it was just a normal food for them. This “bootstrapping” probably made it more natural and easier to evolve lactose tolerance genetically.
Cool video. One minor thing; lactose is actually a simple sugar since it's a disaccharide (2 sugar residues). AI might lead you astray when googling this. Complex sugars are usually many 100 or 1000s of sugars linked together. The minimum requirement for a complex sugar would be 3 sugar residues.
I shared this with my friends who are lactose intolerant, hopefully they will try it..... And i can hear about thier experience and laugh again. Well done great video 9/10
They all laughed at me, called me “little baby titty boy” all because I drink my glass of milk everyday. Well who’s laughing now?! Not only are my bones big and strong, but I can also enjoy my grande frappe mochachino without shitting my britches.
I tried the same thing with cigarettes, after a few days, I wasn't even bothered by them. I was able to replicate, but I am still skeptical of the smooch findings. Only if the crush was a preexisting smoker were they interested in giving me a smooch.
Calm vibes, humor, cute girl, and informative/interesting, all the good things! As a milk addict since childhood, I approve of this video! Fun fact: Lactase persistence is most prevalent in Northern Europe!
Interestingly enough, the populations who developed lactose tolerance were primarily from cooler regions of the globe. It started in Turkey and spread from there. Which makes sense since the milk itself keeps better in those climates.
This raises so many follow-up questions! Such as, if exposure works to change gut biomes how much of the difference in lactose tolerance across cultures actually genetic versus different exposure levels? If kids in cultures like those found in Europe just keep getting exposed to lactose without a break that could lead to intolerance then there wouldn't be a natural selection pressure for genetic tolerance right? Also this reminds me of studies I remember reading about how early childhood exposure to allergens reduces later allergy expression and correlations between high childhood exposure to sunlight and low levels of sight problems requiring glasses. Just interesting cases where environmental influence is clearly dominant in determining outcomes that I think people generally think are genetic (while noting that gene-environment interaction is the most complete model for determining these outcomes).
My brother was also lactose intolerant, we gave him self made kefir with a glassnof milk for a month and now he's also tolerant. I, however; appreciate and admire your direct approach to science immensely.
To answer some common comment questions:
Yes, I no longer have lactose intolerance symptoms.
Timeline:
-- Pre-March 2020 lactose intolerance 3/10 symptoms with plain milk
-- No milk March 2020 to September 2020
-- September 2020 lactose intolerance 8/10 symptoms with plain milk, 6/10 symptoms with lactose free milk
-- Oct 2020 Two week powdered milk binge: started lactose intolerance 10/10 symptoms, ended 0/10 symptoms
-- Nov 2024 lactose intolerance 0/10 symptoms with plain milk
I haven't needed a "refresher". I have had milk fairly consistently ever since though. I drink milk tea 2-3 times a week plus cheese, yogurt etc. I haven't had any rounds of antibiotics and I do suspect that might set me back.
I weirdly have issues with products where "whey" is an ingredient. So, for example, despite being able to have cream or home-made ice cream, I can't have most store-bought ice creams. Someone mentioned a casein protein issue which seems possible.
People have brought up concerns about the brutal conditions of the dairy industry, which are valid. Going fully vegan is not a viable option due to financial, food access, or health-related reasons for many people, especially those who don't live in the metropolitan areas on the coasts of the US. I'm curious how those with ethics blockers consider the logic in this blog post. benthams.substack.com/p/if-youre-going-to-eat-animals-eat If it isn't feasible to be fully vegan, what does the most ethical consumption look like?
Bonus TIJL from Thought Emporium's video, lactase is not one specific enzyme, it is just any enzyme that can break down lactose.
Strange, a lot if people I know and me included developed lactose and other intolerances during that time.
If you had to take an antibiotic, would it kill the Bifidobacteria and reset you? Or would enough survive to repopulate?
I’m not sure what an “ethics blocker” is, but I’m wondering what makes you say it isn’t feasible to go fully vegan (at least in regards to the dairy side of things).
For the financial and food access problems you listed, wouldn’t producing more milk alternatives remove that problem? The thing is, producing milk alternatives is more economical than regular milk. They require far less water and far less land to produce than regular milk. It’s just that people have been making and consuming regular milk for millennia. If more people made milk alternatives then those milk alternatives would be cheaper and more plentiful than regular milk. It’s simple supply and demand.
For the health related point. What health problems are there specifically? The only direct health problem that milk alternatives have that I can see is allergies but dairy allergies are just as common as tree nut and soy allergies. Even then the prevalence of food allergies in the U.S. is less than 10% of the population. Meaning most people can have a vegan milk substitute just fine.
But having said that, I definitely see the problem of saying milk alternatives will be feasible in the future as opposed to their viability right now. And if there are any other problems you have with milk alternatives I’d like to hear them.
After a round of strong antibiotics, I suddenly became lactose intolerant. Half a cup of ice cream would send me running to the toilet.
Some years later, I started drinking kefir for the probiotic benefits. In small amounts, on a regular basis.
After a few months, I tried ice cream again and this time - no problem! Give kefir a shot!
Excellent TIJL!
So basically being lactose intolerant is a Skill Issue.
@@Thr4xiu5 I’ve got loyalty got royalty inside my DNA
Time to grind out some Bifidobacteria levels
Lactose intolerant? Git gud
I guess eating sour dairy like kefir or yogurt gets you back up to speed on the biome
Epigenetic skill issue. Get on my Irish level.
So you actually made the "just tolerate it" meme
When you think about it this may be more of a case of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"
It is literally a function of the body that repeated and significant stimulation or reactions will lead to tolerance
Tolerance treatments are recommended by doctors in some cases. Atleast they used to be.
@@KakkuL4p10yes still are under supervision & the right circumstances
Without the DNA that produce the s*** needed to break down lactose you physically cannot overcome your intolerance ever. There are pills that are made of viruses that inject the DNA into the cells of your body and your body will replicate that DNA for a couple generations allowing you to break down lactose. If you're intolerant you don't have this DNA you can't become tolerant
After a long, hard day, there's nothing like opening RUclips and listening to someone talk about chugging powdered milk for two weeks straight and how it gave them the shits.
the shits 💀
... Until it didn't
She’s giving us non-stopping brain droppings like her wits got the shits.
That extra-*THICK* powdered milk is my greate4st nightmare lol
@@t_ylr You are lucky she didn't mix it with milk and just used water.
Me and my wife are french. We got lactose intolerant a little bit before lockdown, which is the biggest curse you can ever be branded with as a french. One day, after a few years of massive disappointment by lactose-free alternatives, I was just fed up and started adding cheese, butter, yoghurt and fresh milk into my diet, and after a few difficult weeks... I was just fine and dandy! It felt like starting with cheese was less harsh on me, and now I know why. Quite the fascinating video, may I say!
Question is, how did you managed to stop eating lactose in the first place, to become intolerant? Si tu manges du fromage tout les jours, tu as pas besoin de redémarrer ta production de lactase ?
@@Nyli. Par pur concours de circonstance, je me suis juste retrouvé à en manger moins souvent, et la simple baisse de quantité m'a visiblement flingué à ce moment-là
@@Nyli. oi oi
Intéressant à savoir ! mais je ne peux pas essayer au vu de mon syndrome des intestins irritables... La simple crème fraîche ou coca cola ou cacahuètes me provoquent d'horribles douleurs etc.... Perméabilité détruite
I'd assume gluten intolerance would be worse as a frenchie.
This lady is mad and I love it. Cheers to your victory and to science!
We took radically different approaches to this problem, but I respect the hell out of the commitment. This must have been a nightmare 2 weeks, but the results.... worth it.
Just watched your update video and omg yes fuck lactose as an additive!! I've noticed that nearly all ice cream these days has lactose and whey as individual ingredients. They makes it taste "creamy" but are much cheaper than cream. Since whey still bothers me, I still can't eat most ice cream...
The guy who injected himself with a homemade virus and the girl who dared personally follow a fringe research paper from the 90's--both to solve the same dire human flaw--in the same place??
ah, you, yes, you did that - crazy wild - I did remeber it but not in detailes 😜
@thethoughtemporium It would be awesome to hear an update regarding your method!!!
@@Sonnell he already did a video updating it
I think I might've accidentally done this to myself as a kid. I became lactose intolerant, hated the dairy-free lifestyle, and protested my body by just eating tons of ice cream. Eventually, my body just accepted milk and I poop normally to this day.
I did the same thing but with full cream milk. I would down a 2 litre bottle every couple days until it didn't hurt anymore
My mom developed a gluten AND a lactose intolerance. and since I knew I was genetically likely to suffer the safe fate, the MOMENT i noticed i got indigestion from ice cream, I took the gloves off. In one week, i downed the full gallon pail of ice cream, half a gallon of milk (didn't just straight drink it, i added it to cereal, oatmeal, scalloped potatoes n ham, etc.) 2 pizzas, buncha high dairy dense foods. and I would spend minimum of 1 hr a day on the john, but the results were worth. No intolerance to this day :)
Et ça a fonctionné ? @@mastrchief1020
Same here. I distinctly remember beginning to get stomach aches in high school whenever I drank milk. But I just kept drinking it anyways because that's all they had at school lunch. And eventually it just kind of stopped.
I liked this comment to be like #420. ✌️
Fun fact: Even people with genes for lactase persistence can develop temporary lactose intollerance. Gene expression is activated when lactose is present but needs a while to ramp up and down, so if you stop consuming milk for a while you will become lactose intollerant. To regain tollerance without major symptoms it's necessary to slowly consume increasing amounts over the course of 1-2 weeks.
Tollerance can be obtained far more quickly and with fewer symptoms than in people who only rely on their gut biome.
Edit: oh god o-o you did not do that slow increase thing
That edit gave me a good laugh.
Getting intestinal infections can also somewhat damage the intestine cells and trigger a reduced expression of lactase for a few weeks
Yeah, I think it's more likely that she just reactivated the gene expression that already existed. The paper she references is talking about sub-saharan Africans, who don't have the gene expression for lactase to begin with. If she was already drinking milk as an adult without issue, she probably has the gene for tolerance.
I went through a period as a teenager where I ate very little dairy and became lactose intolerant. My dad told me, for years, that if I just drank enough milk/ate enough dairy that it would come back, because I had the gene for it. I did not believe him, but then I started drinking coffee in college with halfnhalf and lo and behold, I no longer had tummy troubles whenever I drank a frappuccino or ate ice cream.
she basically stared into a thermonuclear milk fireball until her eyes adjusted to it
Have at ye, colon biosphere!
Great video. In a long while, YT hadn't recommended someone just exploring something interesting on their own, earned a sub.
"So, if you smell the same farts for long enough, you basically stop smelling them. ... Or, at least that's what I told my roommates."
Now that's a gem.
How‘s the relationship to your roomies now? :)
"Is it possible to learn this power?"
"Not from a family doctor".
Did you ever hear the story of Darth HGModernism the Tolerant? I thought not. It's not a story the doctors would tell you.
@@mahpell7173 it's a medical Legend, Darth HGModernism was a Dark lord of the doctors, so powerful and so wise. they could use science to influence the gut biome to alter their immunity. they had such a knowledge of science they could even cure the ones they cared about from lactose intolerance.
the dark side can't compell me!!!
"could eat cheesy pizza again..."
...my lord!
@@mahpell7173 HGModernism ... was a RUclipsr so powerful & so wise, she could use the powdered milk to influence her gut biome to create ... lactase.
Well I will leech here, as most likely my comment would not be visible to anyone.
My mother had that problem too. After some reading I decided to test if mix of wormwood cloves walnut skin would fix the problem. Basically bought tincture online for pennies, mixed the recommended dosage with glass of milk and mom drank it twice per day. No problems after a week. Try it out yourself. It costs maybe 20-30usd
I still don’t know what this channel is about, but this video adds an interesting new datapoint.
Maybe it's just a mad scientist's vlog
*spins wheel*
We chugging Lactose for the next video
The true joy of HG Modernism is having no idea what the channel is about, and there not being any about besides "This is my new obsession this week"
This just popped up after I was complaining about the pain after craving milk.
I'm surprised more people don't know this, but there is a lot of data that supports exposure therapy as a remedy for allergies.
Reminds me of Barry H Marshall- an Australian doctor jointly responsible with Robert Warren for proving that stomach ulcers were caused by a bacterial infection. After their initial paper on the subject was poorly received, they decided they needed more proof. Deliberately infecting someone with the suspect bacterium was obviously unethical... with one exception. Medical ethics don't allow deliberately harmful experimentation on patients, but harmful SELF EXPERIMENTATION is a grey area. Marshall deliberately infected himself with Helicobacter Pylori, and subsequently developed a peptic ulcer, before taking strong antibiotics to cure himself. Not only did it revolutionise the treatment of stomach ulcers, but Marshall and Warren subsequently won the Nobel Prize for Medicine in 2005.
Small correction: the other person was Robin Warren, not Robert
I had heard fungus caused ulcers. Now I gotta update. Thanks a lot.
I was reading this and in my head this happened in the 50s. Seeing 2005 made question a lot of things
"You can't experiment on other people like that, that's unethical!"
"Look at me, i'm the experiment now"
The hallowed "Fine, I'll do it myself' technique.
the way you talk is SO intriguing idk why
it's stolen from Jenny Nicholson
@@DanJanTube What drugs are you on? The way they talk is very different. Aside from being women, and Jenny having higher pitch, thinner and, in my opinion, whinier voice. Their presentation is also quite different. Also, Hendry has more expression in her voice, or dynamics if you prefer. Jenny sounds like she's rushing to tell you a lot, very fast. Understandable since her videos are about ten years long (I've never bothered to watch one from start to finish) whereas Hendry from this one video (the only one I've seen from her) seems to add a lot more strategic pauses, and tone of voice into her speech.
Yeah she sounds very classy, like speaking Oxford english without the accent.
"If your crush wants to smooch you, they dont really care what you drink."
Thats beautiful
You call it "thick slurry" I call it taking one for the team.
I read this comment before seeing the part of the video, and boy am I glad that this was in reference to the milk
_Salted_ milk slurry, which sounds like something Charlie Kelly would come up with.
@@LobstersLobstersmilksteak with a side of jellybeans
Underrated comment.
"Taking one for the cream."
Speaking of gut biome, I often wonder how much of the food I consume ends up eaten by the bacteria, and I simply get my energy from bacteria shit.
I'm super curious about the distribution of these buckets:
-- energy you could have gained but the bacteria stole
-- energy you did not have the enzymes/capacity to access anyway
-- energy you gained by the bacteria breaking things down into components you can access
with rather fascinating bucket of:
-- energy you got from digesting the bacteria that died
@@HGModernismHmmm starting to get my ol' noggin joggin 🤔
@@HGModernismAsked chatGPT not because I trust it but for an initial pointer, and its answer makes sense: Most of our microbiome is in the large intestine, and nutrients like sugars and fats are mostly absorbed before they ever get that far. "However, some 'resistant' starches, polyphenols, and fiber reach the large intestine, where bacteria break them down into short-chain fatty acids (SCFAs) like butyrate, acetate, and propionate. We absorb these SCFAs, which provide an estimated 5-10% of our daily caloric intake." So it seems they might provide way more for us than the other way around.
I think for cows and sheep it's a lot of it. Their stomachs are microbial fermenters which allow them to derive energy from cellulose.
@@HGModernismThere's also the category of "energy not extracted due to insufficient gut length / excessive gut motility", basically all the stuff (including live bacteria) that is in principle digestible but that you poop out before it's actually suggested.
@OP: Technically, you don't even need to say "bacteria" in "bacteria shit", because human shit is just bacteria plus bacteria shit (and I guess whatever the bacteria didn't get to, like the random corn kernels).
Combat vet. lots of guys became intolerant after deployment, and I told them to just deal with it after returning home, to build up tolerance again. and it worked.
Can't you sneak some milky way bars on deployment (or whatever food contains lactose?!) haha
@@i.i.iiii.i.i there were opportunities to get some dairy, but less than you might think. lots of highly processed foods, not real food.
also, we were frontline combat unit, not some support unit in the rear. We didn't have as good of living conditions and lots of time spent in the field. A single mission could last days.
I told guys to get dairy in their diet any chance they could while deployed.
@@SoloRenegade milk powder??? why not give the guys some choccy milk lmao. everyone loves choccy milk
@@i.i.iiii.i.i If you want lactose that's shelf stable and easy to get, pop rocks are made with lactose in addition to regular sugar because the lactose is less hydroscopic, which makes the pop rocks take longer to dissolve and improves the popping sensation.
@@TheRUclipsUser69 there's literally milkshakes in the mre's lmao. no idea what this guy is on about. must not be merican
"the thought emporium" used a "self-made" gene-based therapy and you just bruteforced it xD
i love you both equally xD
Being a lactose intolerant for 10y, with medical exams showing I digest no lactose. Symptoms included migraines and nausea, even if I take lactase pills.
16 days ago I started introducing some lactose after watching your video, in the form of yogurt (to be more probiotic), 4 days later a slice of cheese, raising the quantity everyday. Not cured yet but minimum side effects and almost normal life.
Thank you for the video ❤
I’ve also started taking these probiotics to help:
Lactobacillus bulgaricus 2 bi, Lactobacillus gasseri 1 bi, Lactobacillus paracasei 1 bi
I’ll keep my results updated in this comment thread. 🚀
How is it going?
I actually did this after a round of antibiotics. Instead of just raw dogging milk though, I started w a probiotic of lactobacillus to get the bacteria in me. Then I went into kefir yogurt and chugged that to keep up the lactobacillus populations, and then I could move onto milk.
Raw dogging milk lmao
Kimchi, yogurt, kefir, apple sauce, probiotic tablets, and kombucha for a month after a round of antibiotics killed off my gut bacteria. Went from liquid only and 5+ day digestion cycle, back to solid food in a month.
Possibly raw milk would help too. I think quite a lot of people who can't drink pasteurised milk are fine with raw milk, even more so if in the form of another dairy product with lower lactose. Because milk has evolved to aid digestion of itself. It might be good for starting tolerance up again.
@@skyworm8006 raw milk is just retardation, don't drink it
@@skyworm8006 Please, please, please never drink raw milk when you've got no symbiotic microorganisms defending your gut ?
milk immunity tutorial
Right but wrong at the same time 😂 it is immunity tutorial for mostly every thing 👏🙋
Its completely digusting to try to be able to support animal cruelty. Not your mother, not your milk!
Her body, my choice
@@IntensiverPinguin No one cares about your propaganda. Why would you watch the video then?
@@setmason1510 Are you a disgusting Nick Fuentes lover? Cause that would be absolutely terrible.
Is a life without cheese even worth living
I love cheese. Cheese hates me.
No
not if you live in Switzerland or similar
I became lactose Intolerent during the pandemic , I really miss that chunk of cheese I'd munch on before going to bed .
Sometimes I dream about cheese
Fascinating, because in my country where a lot of people consume dairy on a daily basis, i was pretty surprised to find out that a huge population of the earth in lactose intolerant when i got access to internet, because before that i've never seen or met anyone who can't drink milk or consume dairy product.
You're a bloody legend for this 🌟🐄🌟
No one:
Proto-Indo-Europeans:
Probably was more of the likes:
Enough human milk, drink goat.
Kid A can no longer drink goat milk, otherwise gets diarrhea. Its weak.
Kid B can no longer drink goat milk, gets diarrhea, dies.
kid C drinks goat milk. Little kid gets stronger.
Kid C becomes Adult.
Kid C reproduces.
@@Dowlphin want me to explain the joke?
@@Dowlphin you dont get it and thats okay, but dont pretend like you know it doesnt make sense, because it does
@@Dowlphin your autism is showing
@@DowlphinThe ability to consume lactose in Eurasia is speculated by anthropologists to be a result of nomadic Indoeuropeans consuming milk products in spite of indigestion. Whether it's genes or gut biome, the trait was passed down throughout the population. It literally comes up in the video. Just admit you didn't get the joke.
The lactase enzymes we treat milk with to produce lactose free milk are really effective, if you still had symptoms with lactose free milk, you likely suffer from both lactose intolerance _and_ an allergy to some milk proteins, most likely in the fat-soluble fragment of the milk: casein, but whey allergies also aren't uncommon.
not an allergy. just milk protein intolerance
@amandak.4246 Is there evidence for any mechanism that produces "milk protein intolerance" that isn't mediated by IgG or IgE activation of the complement cascade?
Nah, she likely just had bad lactose free milk and it wSn't lactose free
@@johnsmiff8328 I feel like FPIES would fit the bill enough? Though that's quite severe...
Yeah. Probably an American "food" issue. Lactose free milk here in Spain is good. Even the cheapest brands.
Your scientific curiosity and determination both scare and fascinate me. Please never stop.
Its completely digusting to try to be able to support animal cruelty. Not your mother, not your milk!
@@IntensiverPinguinYou lashing out at people and being so negative isn't going to make anyone support your cause.
Learn to keep your emotions to yourself next time.
LMAO I DID THE SAME THING. I started drinking a glass of full milk, and used to get SEVERE diarrhea. I pushed through it for a couple of months and now I can drink more than a liter of full milk on an empty stomach with no issue. LOL.
Why am i watching a blonde Rachel Dratch explain the inner workings of milk chugging to build up the intestinal biome. She even did the debbie downer face at 0:23
I can’t imagine anything I’d rather watch
I had this hypothesis myself a few years ago, but instead of lactose I used Inulin. After some testing I found Inulin to be way more tolerable, because for some reason it produces less of an osmotic gradient in your large intestine - you can take more with less side effects. Then I took up to 50g a day for a year with all the health benefits, and no side effects after ~2 weeks. Now I'm functionally cured of my lactose intolerance, I can drink milk, eat milk products even if I stopped taking the Inulin. (Now I'm still taking the it just for its health benefits).
People never believe me when I tell them that I cured my lactose intolerance, since it used to be SO bad in my case.
So, thank you I'm really happy to have stumbled upon your video (and that study)!!! Love your channel
Holy moly congratulations! How was your schedule overall and the ramp up with the dosage? I want to try it out too haha.
Inulin has less of an osmotic effect in your intestines, because it is a way larger molecule. A gram of lactose contains way more molecules than a gram of inulin. That means the osmotic effect per gram you consume is way lower for inulin, since it depends on the number of molecules, not on the mass.
how is inulin related to lactose intolerance? Chicory root? quick search said it may increase microbiome activity... but known for its room clearing gas. I dont understand the link.
How does this work?
This reminds me of that guy that injected himself with a virus which he himself genetically modified to fix his lactose intolerance, and it worked.
Worked for a while, he became intolerant after months or years. Might have to follow up, if he has new info.
Yeah that was Thought Emporium, he made the modified virus open source but as far as I know, nothing came of it
He purposely used a virus that wouldn’t be able to replicate so the modification only existed in the original cells which slowly got replaced by new cells without the modification. He said that his goal is to eventually go through the proper research process to approve that technique for humans. He hasn’t updated on any progress for a while. He has so many ongoing projects that I wish there was a spreadsheet with them all and whether more work in planned, in progress, not planned, etc
@@brycemw Given how many people lactose intolerant, I think this would be a super important cure. But I also feel this needs a very expensive and extensive testing which can only be afforded by a huge pharmaceutical company.
It was never expected to be permanent, he knew it would wear off. This wouldn't be a huge problem by itself, you'd just repeat the treatment once a year, but if I remember correctly the real problem is that the treatment essesntially acts as a vaccine for the virus that was used as template, teaching your immune system to recognize the viral envelope and attack it the next time you'd try to use the treatment.
How do a person look so stylish and suave while talking about something as as unpalatable as lactose intolerance, haha?
Also I love how the moose horns are a center piece of the background ever since that video!
I love listening to your voice as I fall asleep.
Yep, the lactose-free milk didn't work that well because the manufacturer cheaped out and went with "ehh, probably enough" amount. A different manufacturer may have resulted in no problems. In my experience, price and brand prevalence does not correlate to the quality of their de-lactose-ization prowess sadly.
Lactase supplements are much more effective in my experience. I guess the conditions in the human gut are much more favorable for enzymatic breakdown. It's not like you can safely raise the temperature of milk.
One of the things I want to crowdsource / try one day is making my own lactase supplements from diy fermented koji mold.
I've been using the supplements for over ten years now with great success.
no, to be able to label a product lactose free you have adhere to pretty strict numbers. maybe it is different in the US, but in the EU, lactose-free is pretty "safe". my guess is that she actually has some issues with other milk proteins (that's why she is reacting to whey products, which should contain very little lactose). proteins can also be digested or predigested by bacteria and enzymes, so forcing your body to get used to it, might actually work for those too.
what? in my country (eu) you can only label something as lactose free when it actually is. i am assuming you're from the us, even when i went there i didn't have any problems with lactose free milk and i always bought the cheapest one
You can tell by the taste if the reaction worked - sugars content didn't really increase but it becomes way sweeter. Because lactose isn't all that sweet to taste when it's split to other sugars milk sweetness at least quadruples
@@viktorreiter8811 anecdotal I can say that I cannot consume lactose free milk but can drink normal milk if I take lactase supplements in sufficient amounts
absolutely unhinged, great content
this is quickly becoming one of my favourite youtube channels. frequent well researched videos on niche and interesting topics????? you're awesome. this also directly relates to me bc i am also lactose intolerant lol.
I would suggest you don’t need to supplement your whole diet with powdered milk slurry!
Milk is kind of useless. Many people also tolerate quality cheeses and yoghurts quite well despite having intolerance so I don't think you're necessarily missing much.
@@Chronon88stop eating pizza for a few years then check back in with what we're not missing 😂
@@plwadodveeefdv you get digestion issues from hand made pizza? That's a bummer
This is easily one of the most fascinating videos i've seen in a long long while, thanks!
I've never been so interested in a cute girl talking about science before. Life is wild.
my favourite whale milk fact is that the consistency allows some whales to shoot the milk out at pretty high speeds, which is essential when feeding your children who have no lips underwater
I need to know more...
Incredible... sanctuaries.noaa.gov/news/mar20/new-research-humpback-whale-nursing-behavior.html
@@HGModernism Apparently some species of whale's milk is slightly green in colour. It also has a fishy odour and taste. So that's a thing.
@@JXIIImeaning someone woke up one day and said: yeah, I am going to milk a whale and taste it
like those fuel funnels for jets
This channel is basically the anti-version of FleshSimulator, both super informative in a way that borders on compulsive but this is just super chill by comparison
If you or anyone else needs to do this again start with galacto-oligosaccharides (the beta linked kind), these are long strains of galactose molecules that humans can't digest but are digestible by lacto- and bifibacteria, consuming this for a week before the milk would have likely primed the gut enough to prevent the worst symptoms of drinking milk. It can be found online as a powder.
Thanks for documenting your adventure and your suffering to let us learn!
Just found your channel, and I have to say that I love it!
A week timeframe to turn lactose tolerance back on is actually pretty surprising! Thanks for taking one for the team
A true scientist! Sacrificing your own comfort and potential safety for the sake of knowledge! (and that sweet, sweet, milk tea)
I've always wondered if you can "cure" lactose intolerance because I've seen sources claim that more than 90% of East Asians are lactose intolerant, but personally I grew up in China and everyone seemed to drink milk just fine, someone told me that local milk in China are lactose free by default and that might be true, but even when people get more expensive imported milk that I'm certain aren't lactose free, they still drink it without lactose intolerance symptoms. I guess most Chinese people must've brute forced their supposed lactose intolerance away by just drinking dairy products a lot.
yes, babies can digest lactose but if you dooont have continual exposure you will lose the ability to digest it or can only handle a small amount. I also cured mine butt in a mart way, you can buy lactase drops and add them to normal milk to turn it LF. But 2L will take about ten drops. then each week put one less drop in, until you are putting just one in, and run out of drops. You are now lactose tolerant.
Even lactose-free milk has enough trace lactose to trigger the body.
Chinese don't drink very much milk though. Maybe regional? Maybe they are drinking some heavily processed form with it broken down? I don't think fresh milk is commonly available in China, seems like UHT and powdered, so it may have other things done to it.
There's a big deal about "type B" milk from a different breed of Holstein cows. And when I lived in NZ I had no problems (I'm incredibly lactose interolerant). Ive also had "New Zealand" imported cheese with no problems.
Going by my personal experience, I had some symptoms of lactose intolerance as a kid. But kid me didn’t care and kept eating dairies and drinking milk (my parents also didn’t knew enough to care so) and eventually I just stop having those symptoms.
I liked the presentation/style a lot. Nice work.
You actually did the “just be better” method, that’s amazing
Can confirm. As a teen I had pretty bad lactose intolerance but I loved ice cream and chocolate way too much so I would take these lactase pills to digest lactose better. However I was too lazy to remember to take the pill every time and would pay the price, but eventually I noticed that I didn't need the lactase at all with increasing amounts of lactose. I always attributed it to eating so much lactose that my body just got used to it, seems like I might have been right.
But you know how to fix it now :) Just a week of pain.
Girlbossed your lactose intolerance. Admirable.
I'd recommend you check out The Thought Emporium video on how he treated his lactose intolerance. He used a virus to make a home brewed gene therapy. It was based off a paper titled "Peroral gene therapy of lactose intolerance using an adeno-associated virus vector" by During, Xu, et al.
Yes, yes, excellent idea to suggest a paper to our wonderfully quirky host who says, “So of course I read this paper, and I had to try it myself”! YES!
"Virus" and "home brewed" are two things you don't want separated by just three words
Has there been any updates on this? His method was a bit unprofessional and there's doubt to whether he actually did what he claimed. If he did do it then we're 7 years on by now and I'd love to know what complications he's seen if any
@@ninjalectualxIt seemed to have worked, I remember him remarking about it in a later video and it seems he could eat lactose fine.
I want to be able to regenerate cochlear hair cells.
1:30 this is also why lactose-free milk is noticeably sweeter - simple sugars lactose breaks into have sweeter taste :)
Are you Zooey Deschanel cosplaying as Colonel Sanders?
I love the spirit of this endeavor
I really love your narration style
If you are experiencing issues with whey only from protein bars, you could be sensitive to sugar alcohols in those bars and not the whey. Really cool video, as a milk enjoyer i applaud you getting the message out that milk enjoyment can be for everyone!
I do wonder if she's used any version of the low-FODMAP diets to try and treat these sensitivities
Milk enjoyment is ONLY for babies. The dairy industry is extremely cruel
This is the kind of content I love to see on RUclips.
>ever since I was born, I really loved milk
Yeah, mammals tend to be like that.
I was 99% sure that wouldn't work ! Now, I'm delightfully surprised it did. Good for you ! That paper is going straight to my Zotero !
My mother in law did something similar to overcome her lactose intolerance. (Anecdotal evidence, I know.) I was sure it wouldn’t work - like, is it going to change your genes? But that was before I learned it works by helping colonize your intestine with lactose-digesting bacteria.
One thing to note is if someone goes too long without consuming lactose, it can starve out the bacteria and cause their symptoms to return.
Hi! I have a very similar story from this August/September! I caught Covid and spent the month not consuming dairy to avoid overloading myself with mucus.
I looked into as many research papers as I could, and quickly learned something. Humans generally stop producing lactase (the enzyme that breaks down the lactose sugar) on their own around 4-5 years of age. Yet I'd never experienced an adverse reaction to lactose, meaning somehow, lactase had been in abundance within my digestive system before, and was no longer there.
Doing some more research, I found that lactose intolerant folks had an easier time with yogurt due to it containing bacteria that breaks down lactose, and everything clicked. Perhaps my microbiome had previously had a thriving population of a lactose-digesting (ergo lactase-producing) bacteria, and my time without milk had starved the population. To test this hypothesis, I started a four week plan:
Week 1: 1 cup Greek yogurt p/day to reintroduce the bacteria in small amounts, 0.5 cup milk p/day to feed it enough for it to reproduce without excess lactose screwing with my digestive system.
Week 2: 1 cup milk p/day
Week 3: 1.5 cup milk p/day
Week 4: 2 cup milk p/day
By the end, I was digesting dairy normally again! My stomach hasn't quite felt the same since losing whatever original population broke down lactose for me, but being able to consume dairy again is great!
Nice experiment ! Did you experience negative effects during your diet ?
@eldonad During the first two days of the experiment, my excrement smelled horrid. This symptom was resolved by the end of the first week.
During the first week, I was gassier than usual. This symptom resolved itself during the second week.
Throughout the duration of the experiment, my stomach was louder than usual. This symptom extended several weeks past the experiment.
Interestingly, I did not experience painful diarrhea the way I had when trying to consume lactose after becoming intolerant prior to the experiment. I assume this is due to the initial small doses and gradual nature of the experiment.
Increadible video. As a fellow (or should I say formerly fellow) lactoes intolerant, this is absolutely fascinating. My intolarance sneaked up on me during covid as well and after making the switch to oat-milk I feel like I'm using my tolerance even faster, which keeps disrupting my celestial love for cheese.
It's pretty interesting that you can regain or even build up a tolerance by sublimating your digestive tract. A friend of mine has become intolerant pretty much within a week, due to explosive diarrhea, maybe they should just relive the experience to become whole again.
I've heard on the YT channel: Jay Wanders Out, that there are some probiotics that populate the microbiome and digest the milk more tolerably, at least for small serve sizes. One was an expensive proprietary blend (Lacto-Freedom), but I saw other papers that named strains more generally available. I'm considering trying that path: targeted probiotics plus slowly increasing dairy products. I miss cheese. But it might be moot if I'm also allergic to the proteins as I remember my sinus congestion went down when I stopped eating dairy due to severe lactose intolerance.
Even though i kinda knew all that before, i still stayed till the end of the video, because i found you and your way of teaching very intesting and entertaining
i love this level of mad scientist. Self experimentation no matter the cost. Instant subscribe
In the UK (where Cheddar, the village where cheddar cheese was invented, is) we don't dye our cheddar cheese, but we do have red leicester which is quite similar to cheddar and is definitely dyed to make it "red" (it's more like the orange your cheddar is)
We have so many good cheeses in the UK, you should come check them out!
I was so confused until i saw your comment because all the chedder ive seen is as yellow as yellow can be lol.
You tell foreigners that the UK has more cheeses than France and that they're every bit as good, they absolutely don't believe it, even though it's true, I find.
Checking out extreme animal cruelty?
Your channel really is a hidden gem. Especially the way you convey it is so artistic. You really got a feel for timing and subtle humor, keep doing that.
Your hair is very unique i like it
Very good comment
Is that perhaps where the milk went?
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Never seen any of your videos, this is the first but for sure wont be the last. Really really nice!
Subbed because I admire your determination. Seriously. Not enough people take the initiative to fix problems that are in their power to fix. This Dairy Therapy was an interesting experiement to learn about!
Glad I stumbled across this video. I learned I was lactose intolerant a few years ago. I had recently decided to use whole milk to help me reach my calorie goals and was drinking about half a gallon a day. At first it was pretty ridiculous on my stomach, but after a couple weeks, I was pretty much unaffected by it 🤷🏿♂️
Good for you. Far too much intolerance in this world.
This got a good chuckle out of me
Nah, she didn't develop tolerance, because tolerance is something you do for things you hate.
She developed lactose love
Favorite part of the video is the "hee" at 5:06, as you realize you need both hands for to open the powdered milk.
Why did she stir it tho? It's in an actual bottle
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I didn't expect to watch a video about lactose intolerance today but here we are and it was far more interesting than I expected. Subbing. .
Your pattern of speaking is really soothing idk how else to put it
Bonus Bonus Bonus Bonus fact: Pigeons actually produce milk! Flamingos and male Emperor Penguins have also independently evolved this trait. The milk, which isn't too far from mammalian milk, is produced in their throat and is um.
✨Regurgitated✨ for the chicks.
As far as I know, this milk doesn't include lactose, so it might be an alternative for people who don't want to go through the Milk Slurry Extravaganza...
Damn... you're right! It has fat and protein but no sugar! And the flamingo one is blood colored! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_milk
My initial reaction is fuck no, that sounds disgusting, but I'm pretty sure I would absolutely say that about regular cow milk if it wasn't readily available. I would take one for the team and try it if I had the opportunity.
WHAT!!!! .🧑🌾->->🥛 it's time for the farms.
@@HGModernism I've been looking into pigeonkeeping for a while now and somehow this fact only made me love them even more...
@@HGModernism Forbidden strawberry Nesquik
Superconcentrated milk beverage sounds like a torture
heaven*
I grew up in a country where powdered milk was way more common than regular milk, I remember as a kid I would make myself "dessert" by mixing powdered milk and just enough water for it to have sort of like a pudding consistency, sometimes I would also add some chocolate milk powder
Adventurous! I fully support these wacky ideas.
Saw your video on Reddit (did not want to admit that), and ended up binging many of your very entertaining, informative, and funnier than hell videos. You have a gift of story telling coupled with a voracious appetite for knowledge, and that makes awesome entertainment. Keep it up. It's the kind of knowledge I like--sort of useful, sort not, but damn fun!
Re: the whey - one of my coworkers thought she was lactose intolerant, and just chose to have dairy anyway. Her doctor tested her recently and it turns out she is a little lactose intolerant, but mostly she is allergic to some if the milk proteins.
It might be the same for you, that you have developed a but if an allergy to whey protein. Ive anecdotally found i grt allergy symptoms with some protein bars as well (and im very sad about it cause it tasted so dang good) Possibly because of the high whey content, but i havent narrowed that down sufficiently to say for sure yet.
I do suspect the gut irritation from lactose intolerance might make us more likely to develop thar allergy though.
Mmm, delicious casein.
Hey, you really think I wouldn't go through this for pizza? That's crazy. This isn't a recommendation, but I WILL NOT BE SEPARATED FROM THE FOOD OF THE GODS.
lol, recently discovered your channel, and am really liking the directness, jokes and pace of speech/editing :D
You're amazing for doing this experiment
After 8 years of plant-based vegan and 1.5 years of carnivore, I couldn’t even tolerate a piece of chocolate without the taste of spoiled milk, bloating, and stomach cramps. After watching your video, I ordered 5 kg of skim milk powder (55g of lactose per 100g) and dissolved 120g in 750ml of water three times a day. The first few days were tough, then it got a little better, and the last 2 days were nearly problem-free. Since then, I can tolerate milk, ice cream, and yogurt without the bad taste or discomfort. It’s a wonderful thing. Thank you for the information.
Bonkers methodology, I love it.
She sure didn't half-ass it
This brings up the hillarious image of what it must have taken for humanity to have EVOLVED lactose tolerance. Generation upon generation of people shitting themselves to death with the survivors only shitting themselves to extreme discomfort and eventually we have lactose tolerance.
I think it’s more likely that people were breastfed as young babies, and were weaned off of breast milk to animal milk, which might have been available in reasonable quantities as animals may have been around for other reasons (labor, meat, etc), and the child may have been too young to object if it did cause them discomfort, and in fact, they may have still had lactose tolerance, at that point, letting them build up the gut bacteria naturally while they were still able to comfortably take in milk.
In other words, they may never have gone through a period where they knowingly suffered discomfort from lactose, so it was just a normal food for them.
This “bootstrapping” probably made it more natural and easier to evolve lactose tolerance genetically.
Cool video. One minor thing; lactose is actually a simple sugar since it's a disaccharide (2 sugar residues). AI might lead you astray when googling this.
Complex sugars are usually many 100 or 1000s of sugars linked together. The minimum requirement for a complex sugar would be 3 sugar residues.
Holy moly you cracked me up. I love your sense of humor.
I shared this with my friends who are lactose intolerant, hopefully they will try it..... And i can hear about thier experience and laugh again. Well done great video 9/10
They all laughed at me, called me “little baby titty boy” all because I drink my glass of milk everyday. Well who’s laughing now?! Not only are my bones big and strong, but I can also enjoy my grande frappe mochachino without shitting my britches.
Why would you drink cows milk as an adult? Really weird behavior. At least use plant milk
What is so weird about it? @@ninjalectualx
@@ninjalectualxthe thing humans have been doing since the discovery of agriculture?
@@ninjalectualx cry about it
But you still drink milk like a little baby titty boy.
I tried the same thing with cigarettes, after a few days, I wasn't even bothered by them. I was able to replicate, but I am still skeptical of the smooch findings. Only if the crush was a preexisting smoker were they interested in giving me a smooch.
As a control, have your sibling or child replicate the experiment using cloves.
@@jeffrey.p.thornton Oh god that was so funny xD
@@jeffrey.p.thorntonbehavior is hereditary
8:33 uhhh cheddar cheese is not orange, just American cheddar. Why on earth would they dye it
Maybe listen to the rest of the fact before rushing to comment? She literally explains it in the next 2 sentences
Calm vibes, humor, cute girl, and informative/interesting, all the good things!
As a milk addict since childhood, I approve of this video!
Fun fact: Lactase persistence is most prevalent in Northern Europe!
Interestingly enough, the populations who developed lactose tolerance were primarily from cooler regions of the globe. It started in Turkey and spread from there. Which makes sense since the milk itself keeps better in those climates.
"RUclips, why are you recommending this random channel to me?"
*Watches moose video*
Goddamn algorithm knows me better than I know myself. Keep it up!
+1
Did you create the image used in the intro at 0:26? Is it possible to get it as a print?
This raises so many follow-up questions! Such as, if exposure works to change gut biomes how much of the difference in lactose tolerance across cultures actually genetic versus different exposure levels? If kids in cultures like those found in Europe just keep getting exposed to lactose without a break that could lead to intolerance then there wouldn't be a natural selection pressure for genetic tolerance right?
Also this reminds me of studies I remember reading about how early childhood exposure to allergens reduces later allergy expression and correlations between high childhood exposure to sunlight and low levels of sight problems requiring glasses. Just interesting cases where environmental influence is clearly dominant in determining outcomes that I think people generally think are genetic (while noting that gene-environment interaction is the most complete model for determining these outcomes).
Your commitment to this experiment is LEGENDARY
My brother was also lactose intolerant, we gave him self made kefir with a glassnof milk for a month and now he's also tolerant.
I, however; appreciate and admire your direct approach to science immensely.