The other thing about most women is they can smell a gnat fart at a quarter of a mile away. My wife can smell things that I never smell. Including a gas leak that I swore didn't exist. But it did!!
Man I promise you, I couldnt even begin to count the amount of calls I've had for "my wife swear she smells gas from a leak, please check it out to put her at ease." Every single time the wife pinpoints it for me and they have been correct! Inevitably they then want me to tell their husband so they can be proven right😂
I was a Gas serviceman for several years and it gets to the point where you don't notice the smell anymore. So timing checks and soap spray are the only way to find them. I had one customer with 3 large dogs in a 1 bed apartment, she smelled gas, how I don't know but she was right.
That's what I was thinking. The other companies' workers and PlumbHero probably didn't smell anything because it was too faint of a smell and they were too used to it.
I've been doing it 13 years and can still easily notice the smell of a small leak.. I've found leaks on plugs years and years old, about 3 cubic meters a month, very small leak. I sometimes go higher than 15 psi for testing when I can as long as there's no equipment that will see that pressure. A valve that is sticking or leaking can be very tricky to identify, as sometimes you will smell it and other times you wont depending on how warm it is outside.
@@southsidetattoo Lmao ok you'll miss a lot of leaks with that outlook. I've found leak on underground propane lines, behind walls ect. You need a better methodology than dawn dish soap for this job or you'll end up tried for manslaughter... Try isolating sections of tubing and pressurizing, then soap.. I've found leaks at 50 psi that were very very slow leaks that never even appeared at operating pressure or 15 psi for that matter.. Here once you touch it its all your responsibility, hell if I even have line of sight to an appliance - it's now my responsibility.
Fun fact: In the oilfield, every worker is taught about H2S gas and wears a detector device. When it sounds off you stop breathing and exit the site cross-wind immediately. Many women can smell this potent killer _before_ the sensor sounds off.
imagine working at a factory with forklifts that have bad batteries so everytime they charge it fills the area with that crap. And after several warnings THEY KEEP doing it!
@@Mprikiman You _could_ go to your local safety supply and pick up a monitor (last I knew they're under $100usd). Give a call to OSHA (or state equivalent) when the thing goes off. Most are set to alarm at ~7ppm, women can smell the gas down near 3ppm. By the time a man smells the gas, dosage is already approaching lethal (exceptions noted).
This reminds me of a video I made a couple years ago about the shower gas leak. Woman said she only smelled gas when she was taking a shower. I informed her that that was absolutely not possible. I was completely wrong. When they remodeled the tub they had to cut the gas valve and put in two unions. When she was standing in her bathtub it was putting pressure on the loose Union and it was cracking open just enough to smell gas. The only way I found it was by pumping the system up to 60 PSI! I pumped it up to 10 the first time and it held for 30 minutes. She was absolutely right. Gas was leaking only when she was in the shower.
I had a similar problem, it was the NEW water heater coming on and not venting completely to the exhaust. It does it way more if it's windy outside. Turns out the funas installer covered up the air intake and the plumber said that was fine, it wasn't.
This is why it is always good to get as much details as you can from a client, whether that is a mechanic, hvac, doctor, or anything. You can then sift out the non relevant information to find the important stuff to make your job easier and get it done quicker.
I have a snout like a bloodhound. I always say it’s a curse and blessing at the same time. I smell things no one else can. I’ve sniffed out live mice in my house before. It’s crazy. I’m sure this woman was relieved. She sounds like she’s got a top tier sniffer
Oh yea mice def have a smell. Once you clean out one nest out of a garage you know exactly what it is. My girl started raising chickens, so now its an ongoing battle. This year I went to the detached shed and it has the unmistakable smell of a mouse nest because I tried to move all the chicken feed out there in an effort to save the garage.
I was the first person to know there was a rat in the house, but nobody believed me until there was an infestation in the basement 🤢 Rodents have a distinct smell, and I probably only know it because I used to have pet rats 👃🏻🐀
I'm like that too. Some people can't trust me and will start arguing just because they can't smell it. It's an idiot detector as well as smell detector.
Women not only have good intuition but definitely have a better sense of smell too! I've been a fitter for 13 years and I can say that anecdotally I've had way more women say they smell gas than men. And regardless of gender/sex/whatever the kids call it now - NEVER downplay someone who states they smell gas, it could be the last thing you do as a free man then you're locked up for manslaughter from a gas explosion... This stuffs no joke you NEED to be able to prove your due diligence in trying to locate it, and If i couldn't locate it but still smelled it too, I would turn the supply off and infract what I need to in order to shut it down... Good job bud keep up the good work!
This isn't about intuition, this is about a difference in the sense of smell and more developed for certain things, particularly detecting toxins in the environment, food while foraging, but also has a lot older components around territoriality and stone age as well as pre stone age tribalism. The ovarian hormones also make the perception of some smells considerably stronger, so young girls and menopausal women would rate certain smells vastly different from the group in between.
The flammable instruction book has been sitting in the bottom of the heater for 25 years. It is time to remove it. A gas heater should not be surrounded with flammable pine needles. Gas appliances have clearances that must be complied with. These clearances can be found in the instruction book.
That’s a commercial rooftop package unit. Although it designed to be set on a concrete pad as shown, it’s not designed for use in residential living spaces. I’m not sure why this unit is at a residence at all…
@@ecapartsI just bought a home with commercial hvac. It was built by a rich hotel owner. I just had it serviced and the technician was surprised too. My home is 4900 sqft.
Thank you for being human enough to actually LISTEN to her and finally HEAR her. So many repairmen do not.... making themselves a big part of the problem.
Most customers tell delusional stories about the problems they are experiencing, so the best thing the repairman can do is to diagnose it on his own. Even with the possibility of disrespecting the occasional truthful customer.
The others did listen to her. The gas company even found a leak. The others just couldn't find it. I had that happen to me on a job. The tenant reported a gas smell, I checked every gas line connected to her apartment. Turns out the leak was in another apartment.
Great job, dude. You put her mind at ease, listening to her when nobody else took the time to get to the real issue, even if an unlikely one. Five stars.
There was a neighborhood that I worked in as a AC and heating tech back in the 80's. The systems used were built and installed in the 1960s. They were ammonia systems that used natural gas to heat and cool the homes. These units were installed on the ground outdoors. I have seen outdoor combo gas and Freon roof units, some of which were installed on the ground on a concrete pad and Plenium connected into the building. So I can see how it could be possible. If she could smell the gas through the return, the heat exchange is cracked and she needs a new unit all together. A cracked heat exchange can be replaced but it is most advised to install a complete new unit.
@@OregonOutbackRanch5629 Sort of what I was thinking... gas should not be getting from the burner in an outside unit into the home unless there is another problem.
Many years ago, I went round and round with Honda about a problem sometimes when I put it in gear. After many trips there, I finally figured out exactly what steps I needed to take to get it to happen. Turned out that the pilot bearing was completely missing.
Had sinilar once, i finally pulled the wall oven out and discovered there was another shutoff valve hidden on top!.... and it was leaking! It was a tapered plug valve, just rebuilt it and lapped it and it never leaked again for 20 more years before it was removed.
What's crazy is mercaptan is a compound that our sense of smell is highly sensitive to. So the tinniest of leaks can be sensed if the receptors aren't blocked.
Thank you for taking the woman seriously: "I have been married long enough to learn a few things - one of those is that women have great intuition and you shouldn’t downplay their feelings - trust me, that's a bad idea". You have good heart to bring your marriage found wisdom into your daily interactions with customers. God bless you abundantly!
Women have stronger senses of smell, taste and touch by nature. Having more powerful senses like that can lead to a lot of good "intuition". The French exclusively use women for wine testing apparently.
Women have an excellent sense of smell, particularly when pregnant or when ovulating or going through menopause. Protects women from eating things that might be harmful to a fetus.
Was gonna say, ladies have some of the worst intuition. Never forgot how shocked I was when half the population of females wanted to marry the night stalker serial killer
The question is: Is it really necessary to fix if the leak is so small that most people can't even smell it and multiple people with detectors can't detect it?
@@CookingWithCows If you don't fix the leak it could become a bigger leak because usually the fault point is already weak. In the end it will cost you more in the long run.
Good for you for being persistent and not labeling her as crazy. I agree with what everyone else has already said. Women do have a sensitive sense of smell. Good for her for sticking to her gut and pursuing the leak. An air rich natural gas mixture spread throughout ductwork. Could you imagine the BOOM? 💥
Listen to me. If there's a hard leak to find. Put a little 410a inside the line and use your leak detector. Remember refrigerants are heavier the gas and air. So it will go the the lowest point
That’s smart I’ve never thought of that. I check all the connections in the unit and if I find no leaks and I still smell gas it’s most likely a leaking valve. I’ll try that refrigerant trick one day
They call them "gaspacks" - AC and heat - they're used in the South. You'll see them where the house doesn't have sufficient indoor space. They are combo heat/air, and usually look like an oversized condenser but instead of being freestanding it has a massive duct connecting it to the house.
Around me (in south western PA) I have seen the furnace outside in a commercial setting where they had the furnace and AC in a combined unit on the roof but never residential.
@drescherjm I've seen and installed a lot of these in tennessee. They are most common on small single story homes. They also make a heat pump version of a package unit that you can put in an electric heater kit. The duct work comes straight off of the unit and runs under the house and then you build a metal housing around the duct so it doesn't get wet. They are heavy as fuck but much quicker to install than a split system.
@drescherjm Same. Of course, I've seen them used in commercial applications, but I've never seen a residential unit here in Colorado. They look pretty neat and make sense for limited space homes like @DarthGylcolious mentioned.
same thing happen to me when renting a short term apartment in jersey while visiting family (jersey and nyc are full of slum lords). no one could smell it equipment failed to find it . i got pissed and took the gas reader and shoved it in the gap and it read crazy gas amounts. turns out the safety shut off valve for the gas to the building was leaking from the wall ( and yes the walls where filled with gas) in the back of the stove. long story short the build had to pay multiple fines 60k and eventually got closed down for renting any further do to the main gas line being broken. the entire fire department thanked me for stopping further disaster and said we where SUper lucky the build didn't go off like a nuke . if some says they small gas it's more likely leaking somewhere . this is why i'd rather use electric or wood out side stoves. Great work on finding the leak first visit !
@@PlumbHerothis is an old school trick and even a local fire department had to do this to find a leak. There was enough propane to cause a smell for 2 women and a man but not for the testers. The stove got moved and the threads were barely leaking. FYI the fire department gave up and it was a retired firefighter who worked there that found the leak 😂😂
lol. she should have suggested the 'inspectors' use a lighter at each location. if they're 100% sure there isn't a leak. what can it hurt? lol...pretty sure those 'inspectors' would NOT be 100% at that point. hahaha!! and work really hard to find that leak..
Thank you for continuing to look and listen. Im the same way with gas and I can smell it before anyone else. We called the gas company out 3 times on the 3rd time they finally did a decent check and it was my neighbors gas meter that was right beside our by our house. They even tried telling me that everyone’s bills being so high leads them to believe they have a leak lol
Im surprised that the gas company didn't find it. Twice in my life ive smelled gas leaking, once at home and once at work. The time i was at work, PSE&G was there within maybe 7 minutes of us calling. Came thru with their meters and sensors. All over the entire space. The readings were very faint but the tech wasnt satisfied. Went up on the roof and figured out that someone who had done work on the adjacent storefront had accidentally covered a stack on the roof. While he was up there he didnt like something about our HVAC and took care of that as well.
Always tell them to call the local gas company they find it everytime . And they can get a pro out to fix it. Glad u got them going . Just did this for a buddy. $89 valve and he’s back up now running
There's nothing worse than knowing something is wrong and having person after person tell you that you're wrong. It's makes you think you're crazy. It's such a huge relief when someone believes you.
@@Tony-xy7lj A cracked / ruptured firebox or interconnection of combustion and circulating air could allow gas in the return. There should be a delay for the fan as not to blow cold air,
maybe call a hvac company. you know the ones that install the gas appliances. when checking for small leaks you should cycle appliance on and off while using gas detector before pulling gas lines apart
Only if they could prove negligence. If they did everything that could reasonably be expected then it's likely that it would be considered a frivolous lawsuit...
Note to self. In order to rack up charges, make sure you don't use a sniffer to pinpoint the source and fix it the first time. I've never had a car mechanic just start replacing ac lines and components until the problem was fixed. They use diagnostics to find the source.
@@cbracing808 A sniffer will also confirm that the job was done correctly. The customer shouldn't have to use their nose post repair to prevent their house from exploding.
When I was a kid, we lived in a house with a gas stove. The pilot light for the burners didn't work quite right and the flame sometimes went out. It was a very small amount of gas, but we would smell it if there was enough time for the gas to build up in the kitchen.
I've been doing propane gas work for 15 years and I've learned 99%of the time a woman calls us and says she smells gas we find a leak somewhere and it's usually one so small it just leaves a foam instead of bigger bubbles. Good job! Nice work!
To the techs, the best way to diagnose an appliance gas valve leaking through is to put your leak solution over/on all of the burner orifices and see if it blows a bubble. Leak equipment will almost always pick up gas even if there is no leak by the way they operate. These new valves are junk compared to the old ones. Good hunting.
Same thing happened to me..Replaced a White-Rodgers valve. Also, sometime gas company line pressure can be too high. The older the lines the higher the gas company increases their pressure!
Dude she was getting frustrated with YOU and little did you know your life was depended on you finding this leak,.In the yard those arent piles of junk or trash they are tombs of past service workers ,, good on you for surviving the service worker sadist ,, Ive only heard stories but now I know she really does exist
I was the one that prevented an electrical fire and my grandpas house a few years ago cause I was the only one that realised I shouldn't be smelling fish so strongly beside a chicken coop, especially when we didn't have fish for over a month. (Electric fires primarily smell like fish) Turns out the outlet that the washer was plugged into was faulty after many years of usage.
Gotta love the genius that designed gas packs. One of the most important components is also the one you have to disassemble the whole unit to get to. I live design engineers.
Soap and water is the best gas detector you can use. Put it in a squeeze bottle and check every joint and keep testing because if you can not find it, start checking out if they just pushed the gas pipe. Check it by trying to lesson the diameter of the pipe and spray the water and soap, and you'll find it
Here in the UK we use a U gauge at the meter to check if gas leaking. So we can detect gas leaks 100% of time. We would use the wand to find the leak after detecting a leak.
my dad was the owner of a large appliance repair/sales store. He told us many times LISTEN to the lady she KNOWS what is right and what is not AND if the repair tech even knows just a little bit of how the appliance should work, by listening to the lady's description of the issue she will usually tell you exactly what the problem is.
Fun fact. I had a gas leak inside of my house, in the living room. Around 10yrs ago my mom was away with business I remember for 8 months. My aunt was coming once in a while to help me with the house chores. Crazy thing is that one day she just smel gas in the house and call for assistance. After many hours of work the guys said that a valve of the central heating unit was faulty and was sending gas OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSE. She actually somehow was smelling gas near an opened windows.
Next time, call Pine Environmental Services. They have offices all over the country, and they rent a handheld meter that can detect relatively low levels of flammable gas. Similar to the orange sniffer device he uses near the end of this video. But if you can rent the meter yourself, and get an idea of WHERE the leak is located, you can then save a lot of time and potentially money by pointing the repair technician in the right direction.
I'm not sure where you are located, so the code for your pipe fitting is definitely different than Ontario. I say that because we put the gas valve before the union. This way you can turn off the gas at the unit to do this kind of job.
I do my exercise (walking up and down my street) in the evening or night after it cools off. From the street I thought I smelled gas off and on, and kept looking/sniffing, until I checked my next door neighbors gas meter (about 50-60 feet away from the street). An hour later and after calling the gas company and waking my neighbors up and making sure there was no gas IN their house, the gas company crew showed up and replaced a leaky coupling pipe that had a tiny (rusted) crack in it.
I've been an HVAC technician and plumber for 20 years and I can attest to the fact that the woman in the house always smells the gas leak first, even when no one else can. Also in all that time i've only seen one control valve with leak-by and it was on a brand new furnace.
The fact that tech one didn’t check Gp and if there was +gp on one side on discharge of GV… testing the solenoid valve or coil on the gas valve is a little tricky but still using monometer. You can totally do this service call in one call.
I had changed a gas valve on a furnace in a crawlspace due to it leaking. Customer calls up a few weeks later for a gas smell in the same place she smelled it before (the closet right over the furnace). Couldn't find a leak, but you could definitely smell a strong chemical smell. Turns out it was a box of soap her daughter had brough back for her from a recent honeymoon trip to Hawaii. She had put them in there, and they smelled so strong that it became a chemical smell.
I as man smell gas from time to time, too. Only outside of the house, NOT inside of the heaters room. A mechanic told me, that the gas is prepared with alot of "signal gas" so that one can better smell that danger. And that signal gas isnt get burned always completly, so that you can smell "gas" outside the house near/below the chimney, but its only the unburned "signal gas".
Noonono. NG gas is mixed up with a very strong smelling chemical, mercaptan. If you smell mercaptan, there's a fucking gas leak. If you smell it more in the morning, that's bc air tends to be denser bc ground moisture hangs in the air. If you smell this regularly CALL THE GAS COMPANY.
This is super frustrating, but it makes me better at my work. I often smell and hear things no one else does, and it'll bother me, but it won't be a problem for anyone else until it is. I can pick up what my clients are experiencing, but even if I can't, I still trust that they are experiencing what they're telling me.
I had a leaking valve for YEARS - only noticed when taking the cover off and there was always a light stink of nat. gas. Local company wanted $750 to replace the $100 valve, so I did it myself.
I worked for a gas company for 31 years I've found that bypassing gas valves a lot doesn't matter whether it's a redundant gas valve or standing pilot gas valve and on as stoves too
Crazy that you hire "professional " to solve a problem and end up they not really that professional but this guy do, because he took his time to solve the issue 🤝👏🏻
From years of digging in Telecom pipes I can smell gas pretty well. Years later two guys blew up a gas mains repair due to a leak left insitu while repairing phone cable in same hole
Thank goodness she trusted her self and followed up as much as she could. Thanks for fixing the issue
Trusting yourself... Is dangerous. It can lead to echo chambers.... But not listening to yourself can lead to others making decisions for you
Where these other techs "Gas Lighting" her?
In 🇬🇧 gas valves are a common leaking point
Nothing to do
With trust . She could still
Smell it . Simple
@@nooneisrightallthetime-zv7hs mmmmmmmmmmmmm okay
I disagree.
The other thing about most women is they can smell a gnat fart at a quarter of a mile away. My wife can smell things that I never smell. Including a gas leak that I swore didn't exist. But it did!!
As a facility manager I can confirm this
Lol
My mother's been called "the only canine officer with a human partner" before 😒
Man I promise you, I couldnt even begin to count the amount of calls I've had for "my wife swear she smells gas from a leak, please check it out to put her at ease." Every single time the wife pinpoints it for me and they have been correct! Inevitably they then want me to tell their husband so they can be proven right😂
Bro 💯
I was a Gas serviceman for several years and it gets to the point where you don't notice the smell anymore. So timing checks and soap spray are the only way to find them. I had one customer with 3 large dogs in a 1 bed apartment, she smelled gas, how I don't know but she was right.
That's what I was thinking. The other companies' workers and PlumbHero probably didn't smell anything because it was too faint of a smell and they were too used to it.
spray bottle, dawn, and water easy enough.
I've been doing it 13 years and can still easily notice the smell of a small leak.. I've found leaks on plugs years and years old, about 3 cubic meters a month, very small leak.
I sometimes go higher than 15 psi for testing when I can as long as there's no equipment that will see that pressure.
A valve that is sticking or leaking can be very tricky to identify, as sometimes you will smell it and other times you wont depending on how warm it is outside.
@@southsidetattoo Lmao ok you'll miss a lot of leaks with that outlook. I've found leak on underground propane lines, behind walls ect. You need a better methodology than dawn dish soap for this job or you'll end up tried for manslaughter... Try isolating sections of tubing and pressurizing, then soap.. I've found leaks at 50 psi that were very very slow leaks that never even appeared at operating pressure or 15 psi for that matter.. Here once you touch it its all your responsibility, hell if I even have line of sight to an appliance - it's now my responsibility.
Mad respect to you for listening to her and helping her out!
Fun fact: In the oilfield, every worker is taught about H2S gas and wears a detector device. When it sounds off you stop breathing and exit the site cross-wind immediately. Many women can smell this potent killer _before_ the sensor sounds off.
We are the canaries in the coalmine~
imagine working at a factory with forklifts that have bad batteries so everytime they charge it fills the area with that crap. And after several warnings THEY KEEP doing it!
I never got an H2S sensor, called over radio if someone smelled something. Wouldve been really handy!
@@Mprikiman You _could_ go to your local safety supply and pick up a monitor (last I knew they're under $100usd). Give a call to OSHA (or state equivalent) when the thing goes off.
Most are set to alarm at ~7ppm, women can smell the gas down near 3ppm. By the time a man smells the gas, dosage is already approaching lethal (exceptions noted).
@@gamingpentagon I still have my old one stuffed in a drawer somewhere. Not sure it would still work after all this time.
This reminds me of a video I made a couple years ago about the shower gas leak. Woman said she only smelled gas when she was taking a shower. I informed her that that was absolutely not possible. I was completely wrong. When they remodeled the tub they had to cut the gas valve and put in two unions. When she was standing in her bathtub it was putting pressure on the loose Union and it was cracking open just enough to smell gas. The only way I found it was by pumping the system up to 60 PSI! I pumped it up to 10 the first time and it held for 30 minutes. She was absolutely right. Gas was leaking only when she was in the shower.
Good on ya!
I had a similar problem, it was the NEW water heater coming on and not venting completely to the exhaust. It does it way more if it's windy outside. Turns out the funas installer covered up the air intake and the plumber said that was fine, it wasn't.
You take justifiable pride in your thoroughness. This was a good thing you did.
That is hilarious, weird, and scary.
Stories like this really make me wonder what's going on behind my walls and underneath my floors...
It would have been easier if you had her take a shower to demonstrate it.
Smart stubborn woman saves the neighborhood ❤❤❤ glad you helped her. You're smart too
She didn’t save anything just whined relentlessly until a man fixed it
This is why it is always good to get as much details as you can from a client, whether that is a mechanic, hvac, doctor, or anything. You can then sift out the non relevant information to find the important stuff to make your job easier and get it done quicker.
in canada doctors are like "my first guess was wrong? no way. thats crazy. next person."
I have a snout like a bloodhound. I always say it’s a curse and blessing at the same time. I smell things no one else can. I’ve sniffed out live mice in my house before. It’s crazy. I’m sure this woman was relieved. She sounds like she’s got a top tier sniffer
Oh yea mice def have a smell. Once you clean out one nest out of a garage you know exactly what it is. My girl started raising chickens, so now its an ongoing battle. This year I went to the detached shed and it has the unmistakable smell of a mouse nest because I tried to move all the chicken feed out there in an effort to save the garage.
That's wild smelling mice
Except that little of a gas leak wasn't going to harm her and it costed thousands of dollars to find and fix...?
I was the first person to know there was a rat in the house, but nobody believed me until there was an infestation in the basement 🤢
Rodents have a distinct smell, and I probably only know it because I used to have pet rats 👃🏻🐀
I'm like that too. Some people can't trust me and will start arguing just because they can't smell it. It's an idiot detector as well as smell detector.
That's right, value and trust in yah women. Great work bro..
Women not only have good intuition but definitely have a better sense of smell too! I've been a fitter for 13 years and I can say that anecdotally I've had way more women say they smell gas than men. And regardless of gender/sex/whatever the kids call it now - NEVER downplay someone who states they smell gas, it could be the last thing you do as a free man then you're locked up for manslaughter from a gas explosion... This stuffs no joke you NEED to be able to prove your due diligence in trying to locate it, and If i couldn't locate it but still smelled it too, I would turn the supply off and infract what I need to in order to shut it down...
Good job bud keep up the good work!
You just earned a sub, incredible explanation, logical deduction, and listening to your customer.
This isn't about intuition, this is about a difference in the sense of smell and more developed for certain things, particularly detecting toxins in the environment, food while foraging, but also has a lot older components around territoriality and stone age as well as pre stone age tribalism.
The ovarian hormones also make the perception of some smells considerably stronger, so young girls and menopausal women would rate certain smells vastly different from the group in between.
The flammable instruction book has been sitting in the bottom of the heater for 25 years. It is time to remove it. A gas heater should not be surrounded with flammable pine needles. Gas appliances have clearances that must be complied with. These clearances can be found in the instruction book.
Yeah! Dear Lord...
That’s a commercial rooftop package unit. Although it designed to be set on a concrete pad as shown, it’s not designed for use in residential living spaces. I’m not sure why this unit is at a residence at all…
@@ecaparts ffffffake
@@Yugemos ok? Thanks for your extremely useful response to my comment. You are aaaamazing!
@@ecapartsI just bought a home with commercial hvac. It was built by a rich hotel owner. I just had it serviced and the technician was surprised too. My home is 4900 sqft.
Thank you for being human enough to actually LISTEN to her and finally HEAR her. So many repairmen do not.... making themselves a big part of the problem.
Most annoying thing about this is that this burner is open flame, so it is literally leaking gas to exterior everytime....
Most customers tell delusional stories about the problems they are experiencing, so the best thing the repairman can do is to diagnose it on his own. Even with the possibility of disrespecting the occasional truthful customer.
The others did listen to her. The gas company even found a leak. The others just couldn't find it. I had that happen to me on a job. The tenant reported a gas smell, I checked every gas line connected to her apartment. Turns out the leak was in another apartment.
Imagine dehumanizing someone because they couldn't solve the extremely obscure issue someone was having.
Great job, dude. You put her mind at ease, listening to her when nobody else took the time to get to the real issue, even if an unlikely one. Five stars.
I have never seen an outdoor furnace before! Only AC goes outside I thought.
There was a neighborhood that I worked in as a AC and heating tech back in the 80's. The systems used were built and installed in the 1960s. They were ammonia systems that used natural gas to heat and cool the homes. These units were installed on the ground outdoors. I have seen outdoor combo gas and Freon roof units, some of which were installed on the ground on a concrete pad and Plenium connected into the building. So I can see how it could be possible. If she could smell the gas through the return, the heat exchange is cracked and she needs a new unit all together. A cracked heat exchange can be replaced but it is most advised to install a complete new unit.
@@OregonOutbackRanch5629 Sort of what I was thinking... gas should not be getting from the burner in an outside unit into the home unless there is another problem.
It is called a package unit
Think giant window unit where only the ductwork is inside. They are also used in commercial where they sit on the roof
Many years ago, I went round and round with Honda about a problem sometimes when I put it in gear. After many trips there, I finally figured out exactly what steps I needed to take to get it to happen. Turned out that the pilot bearing was completely missing.
I'm sorry what? How?
$5,000 later finally fixed
Still better than burning alive in your own house ;)
Yes. Happy ending to the story
More like $500
@@gravestoner2488 ware can you get 3~4 serves calls out to a house and 2 sets of repairs for 500$?????
@@gravestoner2488 each
Had sinilar once, i finally pulled the wall oven out and discovered there was another shutoff valve hidden on top!.... and it was leaking! It was a tapered plug valve, just rebuilt it and lapped it and it never leaked again for 20 more years before it was removed.
I've run across this same leak. Now I make extra effort to put my sniffer down in front of the orfices, checking each one.
What's crazy is mercaptan is a compound that our sense of smell is highly sensitive to. So the tinniest of leaks can be sensed if the receptors aren't blocked.
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It's crazy because they chose that specifically for that reason. What's more crazy is how well tires roll.
Thank you for taking the woman seriously: "I have been married long enough to learn a few things - one of those is that women have great intuition and you shouldn’t downplay their feelings - trust me, that's a bad idea". You have good heart to bring your marriage found wisdom into your daily interactions with customers. God bless you abundantly!
Good on that lady and you for going above and beyond!
Women have stronger senses of smell, taste and touch by nature. Having more powerful senses like that can lead to a lot of good "intuition". The French exclusively use women for wine testing apparently.
I knew my neighbor's home was on fire before he did and our houses are a good 30 feet apart. My husband calls me a bloodhound. 😂
Now I'm wondering what part of human evolution led to that being the case. Any anthropologists wanna chime in?
They also have better color vision. And I don't mean just less colorblindness, but much higher cone cell counts on their retina.
It's why I work metal better than my ex with tool and die experience. (And why my machines like me better.)
And better color recognition too. I am male but inherited my sense of smell from my mom. But gererally it's true. Both sexes have different strengths.
Great job young man. Keep up the great work!!!!
The old leaking through the control valve scenario
Very wise young man 😊
Nice of u to treat that lady so well.
As a property inspector, women have demonstrated an incredible sense of smell for gas, mold, damp framing, etc...just incredible.
Women have an excellent sense of smell, particularly when pregnant or when ovulating or going through menopause. Protects women from eating things that might be harmful to a fetus.
Moral of this story: In general women have a better sense of smell then men. It has nothing to do with intuition. Be safe and great day.
Was gonna say, ladies have some of the worst intuition.
Never forgot how shocked I was when half the population of females wanted to marry the night stalker serial killer
The question is: Is it really necessary to fix if the leak is so small that most people can't even smell it and multiple people with detectors can't detect it?
@@CookingWithCows this is a very good reason why "the customer is always right" came into being as an idiom. in this case, it's also factual.
@@CookingWithCows If you don't fix the leak it could become a bigger leak because usually the fault point is already weak. In the end it will cost you more in the long run.
Good for you for being persistent and not labeling her as crazy. I agree with what everyone else has already said. Women do have a sensitive sense of smell. Good for her for sticking to her gut and pursuing the leak. An air rich natural gas mixture spread throughout ductwork. Could you imagine the BOOM? 💥
She should get a refund from all the previous folks that don't know their jobs very well.
MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY LICENSEED REVOKED
I found a gas control valve bleeding by several times before.
Im sure they will if she uses the magic word, lawsuit 😂
@@chinoxSD cant get your license revoked for that. nice try
Those other techs used the electronic sniffer. Came up with zero, nothing. No lack of knowledge here. Be safe and great day.
You are a very respectful man! Good on ya!
Listen to me. If there's a hard leak to find. Put a little 410a inside the line and use your leak detector. Remember refrigerants are heavier the gas and air. So it will go the the lowest point
That’s smart I’ve never thought of that. I check all the connections in the unit and if I find no leaks and I still smell gas it’s most likely a leaking valve. I’ll try that refrigerant trick one day
that would be a violation of EPA rules?
@@williamfowler616 r u stupid.
Screw the EPA @@williamfowler616
@@williamfowler616 Maybe, but gas boom is probably a bigger concern.
You took valuable time, i commend you for it, good caring job, honestly!!! ❤❤
This furnace is installed outside?! That's a trip, I've never seen that before...! 😳 😂
Never heard of or seen a packaged unit? Tf
They call them "gaspacks" - AC and heat - they're used in the South. You'll see them where the house doesn't have sufficient indoor space. They are combo heat/air, and usually look like an oversized condenser but instead of being freestanding it has a massive duct connecting it to the house.
Around me (in south western PA) I have seen the furnace outside in a commercial setting where they had the furnace and AC in a combined unit on the roof but never residential.
@drescherjm I've seen and installed a lot of these in tennessee. They are most common on small single story homes. They also make a heat pump version of a package unit that you can put in an electric heater kit. The duct work comes straight off of the unit and runs under the house and then you build a metal housing around the duct so it doesn't get wet. They are heavy as fuck but much quicker to install than a split system.
@drescherjm Same. Of course, I've seen them used in commercial applications, but I've never seen a residential unit here in Colorado. They look pretty neat and make sense for limited space homes like @DarthGylcolious mentioned.
same thing happen to me when renting a short term apartment in jersey while visiting family (jersey and nyc are full of slum lords). no one could smell it equipment failed to find it . i got pissed and took the gas reader and shoved it in the gap and it read crazy gas amounts. turns out the safety shut off valve for the gas to the building was leaking from the wall ( and yes the walls where filled with gas) in the back of the stove. long story short the build had to pay multiple fines 60k and eventually got closed down for renting any further do to the main gas line being broken. the entire fire department thanked me for stopping further disaster and said we where SUper lucky the build didn't go off like a nuke . if some says they small gas it's more likely leaking somewhere . this is why i'd rather use electric or wood out side stoves. Great work on finding the leak first visit !
I throw up violently when I smell gas. I'm really fun at parties too!😂
lol!
bet you are a riot around a 15 bean soup then
So you fart and throw up at the same time or is it just stove gas.
That’s a good leak you have to have good leak equipment the control box gas starts bypassing inside coming out of the manifold, good find 😊
Walk around with a lighter 😂
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@@PlumbHerothis is an old school trick and even a local fire department had to do this to find a leak. There was enough propane to cause a smell for 2 women and a man but not for the testers. The stove got moved and the threads were barely leaking. FYI the fire department gave up and it was a retired firefighter who worked there that found the leak 😂😂
Can be not enough gas to catch fire but still smell it
a long throw torch works better, dont need to walk around as much
lol. she should have suggested the 'inspectors' use a lighter at each location. if they're 100% sure there isn't a leak. what can it hurt? lol...pretty sure those 'inspectors' would NOT be 100% at that point. hahaha!! and work really hard to find that leak..
Thank you for continuing to look and listen. Im the same way with gas and I can smell it before anyone else. We called the gas company out 3 times on the 3rd time they finally did a decent check and it was my neighbors gas meter that was right beside our by our house. They even tried telling me that everyone’s bills being so high leads them to believe they have a leak lol
Good for her.
Great work.
Very well done.
Plot twist. She still smelling gas.
Plot twist, there wasn't a leak. I saw no evidence
That's not the same gas...
She could still be crazy.
The plot twist thing got old. Find something else.
Im surprised that the gas company didn't find it. Twice in my life ive smelled gas leaking, once at home and once at work. The time i was at work, PSE&G was there within maybe 7 minutes of us calling. Came thru with their meters and sensors. All over the entire space. The readings were very faint but the tech wasnt satisfied. Went up on the roof and figured out that someone who had done work on the adjacent storefront had accidentally covered a stack on the roof. While he was up there he didnt like something about our HVAC and took care of that as well.
Always tell them to call the local gas company they find it everytime . And they can get a pro out to fix it. Glad u got them going . Just did this for a buddy. $89 valve and he’s back up now running
They have great intuition..... 😅😂
Outstanding work!
Intuition nothing, that's a sense of smell.
There's nothing worse than knowing something is wrong and having person after person tell you that you're wrong. It's makes you think you're crazy. It's such a huge relief when someone believes you.
Yes exactly, well said
How's gas from the manifold making it into the return?
It's a cracked heat exchanger, but no one checked that either. It probably dumps a ton of CO into the house as well.
That's what I was thinking too
@ericpaul4575 why woild a cracked HX feed gas into the return? Shouldn't the burners only ignite when the fan is on?
@@Tony-xy7lj A cracked / ruptured firebox or interconnection of combustion and circulating air could allow gas in the return. There should be a delay for the fan as not to blow cold air,
@Terry-hl5eo odd, we turn the fans on first here. Usually, they have air proving switches before any burners can be enabled.
Interesting.
maybe call a hvac company. you know the ones that install the gas appliances. when checking for small leaks you should cycle appliance on and off while using gas detector before pulling gas lines apart
Should see if she can sue every single one of those companies for putting her life in danger.. lmao..
Only if they could prove negligence. If they did everything that could reasonably be expected then it's likely that it would be considered a frivolous lawsuit...
Way to stay diligent my friend. Women do have great intuition and sense of smell. Great job.
Note to self. In order to rack up charges, make sure you don't use a sniffer to pinpoint the source and fix it the first time.
I've never had a car mechanic just start replacing ac lines and components until the problem was fixed. They use diagnostics to find the source.
Bubble tests will pinpoint a leak better. When the leak is tiny a sniffer will only give you a general area.
@@cbracing808 A sniffer will also confirm that the job was done correctly. The customer shouldn't have to use their nose post repair to prevent their house from exploding.
When I was a kid, we lived in a house with a gas stove. The pilot light for the burners didn't work quite right and the flame sometimes went out. It was a very small amount of gas, but we would smell it if there was enough time for the gas to build up in the kitchen.
The only thing worse than finding a gas leak, is NOT finding a gas leak.
I've been doing propane gas work for 15 years and I've learned 99%of the time a woman calls us and says she smells gas we find a leak somewhere and it's usually one so small it just leaves a foam instead of bigger bubbles. Good job! Nice work!
To the techs, the best way to diagnose an appliance gas valve leaking through is to put your leak solution over/on all of the burner orifices and see if it blows a bubble. Leak equipment will almost always pick up gas even if there is no leak by the way they operate. These new valves are junk compared to the old ones. Good hunting.
Same thing happened to me..Replaced a White-Rodgers valve. Also, sometime gas company line pressure can be too high. The older the lines the higher the gas company increases their pressure!
This man is the person that I want to work with. He didn't dismiss her but kept looking and took the time to figure it out.
God Bless you and thank you Sir for not giving up on her. So etimes we are right.
Thank you for your persistence!
Great troubleshooting!
Dude she was getting frustrated with YOU and little did you know your life was depended on you finding this leak,.In the yard those arent piles of junk or trash they are tombs of past service workers ,, good on you for surviving the service worker sadist ,, Ive only heard stories but now I know she really does exist
Good on u for being thorough
They also have a better sense of smell... Nice work ..
I was the one that prevented an electrical fire and my grandpas house a few years ago cause I was the only one that realised I shouldn't be smelling fish so strongly beside a chicken coop, especially when we didn't have fish for over a month. (Electric fires primarily smell like fish) Turns out the outlet that the washer was plugged into was faulty after many years of usage.
Gotta love the genius that designed gas packs. One of the most important components is also the one you have to disassemble the whole unit to get to. I live design engineers.
One Pontiac required removing a tire to replace the battery. Mechanics often curse the lineage of automobile engineers.
You sir are her *_HERO!_*
Soap and water is the best gas detector you can use. Put it in a squeeze bottle and check every joint and keep testing because if you can not find it, start checking out if they just pushed the gas pipe. Check it by trying to lesson the diameter of the pipe and spray the water and soap, and you'll find it
Dude, that's some good advice! Bros, better listen up!! 😂😂😂😂😂
Awesome you took the time to check everything ❤
Here in the UK we use a U gauge at the meter to check if gas leaking. So we can detect gas leaks 100% of time. We would use the wand to find the leak after detecting a leak.
Good you found it but cross wrenching across s valve can warp it. Wrenches should be on the same side of the valve.
Bravo on checking EVERYTHING.
You are a genius ,because she understand a women's intuition and awesome sense of smell !
my dad was the owner of a large appliance repair/sales store. He told us many times LISTEN to the lady she KNOWS what is right and what is not AND if the repair tech even knows just a little bit of how the appliance should work, by listening to the lady's description of the issue she will usually tell you exactly what the problem is.
Fun fact. I had a gas leak inside of my house, in the living room. Around 10yrs ago my mom was away with business I remember for 8 months. My aunt was coming once in a while to help me with the house chores. Crazy thing is that one day she just smel gas in the house and call for assistance. After many hours of work the guys said that a valve of the central heating unit was faulty and was sending gas OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSE. She actually somehow was smelling gas near an opened windows.
Thank you for checking thoroughly
inside and out.
Customer: Smells Gas
Repair Guy: Smells Gas
Everyone Else: Smells Gas
"YOU'RE CRAZY!"
Next time, call Pine Environmental Services. They have offices all over the country, and they rent a handheld meter that can detect relatively low levels of flammable gas. Similar to the orange sniffer device he uses near the end of this video. But if you can rent the meter yourself, and get an idea of WHERE the leak is located, you can then save a lot of time and potentially money by pointing the repair technician in the right direction.
Professional! Lesgo!
& good lesson on women too brother.
Use tape also in the iron joint. Only skip it when you are joining brass or aluminum with iron
I'm not sure where you are located, so the code for your pipe fitting is definitely different than Ontario. I say that because we put the gas valve before the union. This way you can turn off the gas at the unit to do this kind of job.
I do my exercise (walking up and down my street) in the evening or night after it cools off. From the street I thought I smelled gas off and on, and kept looking/sniffing, until I checked my next door neighbors gas meter (about 50-60 feet away from the street).
An hour later and after calling the gas company and waking my neighbors up and making sure there was no gas IN their house, the gas company crew showed up and replaced a leaky coupling pipe that had a tiny (rusted) crack in it.
I've been an HVAC technician and plumber for 20 years and I can attest to the fact that the woman in the house always smells the gas leak first, even when no one else can. Also in all that time i've only seen one control valve with leak-by and it was on a brand new furnace.
The fact that tech one didn’t check Gp and if there was +gp on one side on discharge of GV… testing the solenoid valve or coil on the gas valve is a little tricky but still using monometer. You can totally do this service call in one call.
Exactly
I had changed a gas valve on a furnace in a crawlspace due to it leaking. Customer calls up a few weeks later for a gas smell in the same place she smelled it before (the closet right over the furnace). Couldn't find a leak, but you could definitely smell a strong chemical smell. Turns out it was a box of soap her daughter had brough back for her from a recent honeymoon trip to Hawaii. She had put them in there, and they smelled so strong that it became a chemical smell.
I as man smell gas from time to time, too.
Only outside of the house, NOT inside of the heaters room.
A mechanic told me, that the gas is prepared with alot of "signal gas" so that one can better smell that danger.
And that signal gas isnt get burned always completly, so that you can smell "gas" outside the house near/below the chimney, but its only the unburned "signal gas".
Noonono. NG gas is mixed up with a very strong smelling chemical, mercaptan.
If you smell mercaptan, there's a fucking gas leak.
If you smell it more in the morning, that's bc air tends to be denser bc ground moisture hangs in the air.
If you smell this regularly CALL THE GAS COMPANY.
Also where outside? Go to your gas meter, check there. If you have lines running around, check those.
Monitor your gas use. You might have a leak
@@a_lethe_ion outside of the house near of the chimney, where the cold signal gas "falls down" to the ground
To find it, grab a bottle of big blue, or a thing of soap, go over all connections, starting from the lines.
Plumber or heating and air guys?
This is super frustrating, but it makes me better at my work. I often smell and hear things no one else does, and it'll bother me, but it won't be a problem for anyone else until it is. I can pick up what my clients are experiencing, but even if I can't, I still trust that they are experiencing what they're telling me.
It is a good idea to check the heat exchanger for cracks.
I had a leaking valve for YEARS - only noticed when taking the cover off and there was always a light stink of nat. gas. Local company wanted $750 to replace the $100 valve, so I did it myself.
I worked for a gas company for 31 years I've found that bypassing gas valves a lot doesn't matter whether it's a redundant gas valve or standing pilot gas valve and on as stoves too
Smart and wise serviceman. Listening is a critical life skill.
Yes, so funny to be 'relieved' there actually was a leak. Great work. And - thank u for not gas-lighting! LOL.
Crazy that you hire "professional " to solve a problem and end up they not really that professional but this guy do, because he took his time to solve the issue 🤝👏🏻
From years of digging in Telecom pipes I can smell gas pretty well. Years later two guys blew up a gas mains repair due to a leak left insitu while repairing phone cable in same hole