@@mimikpmturf wars parts 1-3, then Ruins of the empire 1-3, and then there's some anthology comics about TLOK characters in both the free comic day ATLA book and patterns in time :)
I cant be the only one that feels like korrasami was not forced at all. They started off as friends and grew closer over the course of the show, especially during season 4. The whole thing felt natural to me and I don’t think it came out of no where.
It's just subtle enough that I think you could pretty easily miss it. Of the three reactors I've watched react to Korra all the way through, two of them didn't see it coming, and the one that did was an actual lesbian couple, so
Same. And I like that in the series they only they made a hint on their future relationship. A lot of people forget that they didnt start to date in the end of cartoon
I think most people hated the lesbian reveal at the end of Kora for two reasons: either because people felt it was forced or they wanted to see more of the relationship developing
Technically that could be the Beginning of their relationship, or the begging of her realising that she is Bisexual. Edit: It was actually foreshadowed all the way back in Season 1
Tbh, with the reveal of Asami and Korra's relationship, it felt like just another retrospective "oh yeah, they were gay" statement just to make them seem more woke, so I had a very negative opinion of it for a long time. I was very tired of token gay characters, characters whose entire personality was just 🌈IMGAYLOOK🌈, and other half-assed representation to make them look woke.
Rangi and Kyoshi were probably one of if not the best written romance in avatar universe and one of my favourite in media in general. They deeply cared about eachother, helped eachother in fight and daily life, they never were uncomfortably lovey dovey and whole thier development felt just real. I really hope we will get more content about them
To the people saying that the korrasami reveal feels forced or out of the blue, I'd like to remind you that the reason there was not as much build up as some of us would have liked was because of the push back to represent queer characters at the time, especially in children's media. Korrasami was really kind of a starting point to push for more solid representation and to hold it to the standards of today is unfair. We were lucky to even get the hints we got and then the flat out confirmation so soon after the show aired.
This! And to add some details, in the fourth season, Korra was recovering mentally and physically from s3 finale+other events and Asami was building up her company, and not to mention the whole thing with Kuvira. Do ppl think this is the time where both of em would have been like ”well I’m gonna use my pick up lines and get that girl😏😉”. And after the final battle is over, and they both have grown during the events, they decide to get on a journey together. In ATLA there weren’t that much of romance either between Katara and Aang, just little hints and throw away lines, but ppl still saw their relationship coming from a mile away.
People don't realize that we are living in a VERY new renaissance of queer media. Only a decade ago (less than half a decade before TLOK), Ugly Betty was criticized for including a kiss between two male teenagers -- and that show might as well have had a "THIS IS A GAY SHOW" sticker on it. Before that, and even after (depending on the program), LGBTQ+ characters had to be codified or would not be allowed at all. Of course TLOK couldn't give a full, fleshed-out romance plot.
yep thats why all media is going bankrupted cuz they picked a side that doesnt pay or watch stuff like this lmao Good job helping kill shows and movies @@zammich3649
You know, I love Kya, I relate to her a lot by keeping her orientation personal. I really feel like it’s a personal manner. People often get upset at me for not waving pride flags or going to parades, but those have never felt right for me. I sometimes feel like in this modern world people are trying to exploit my orientation, whether it’s Politicians trying to seem woke, or business trying to give me a useless product, just cause it’s rainbow and June.
@@lextatertotsfromhell7673 I just rather be known for other stuff. I mean your not going to get a job for being Gay, your going to get a job on skills and education, so that’s what I make my main focus.
You're basically me. Sometimes I feel like all rainbow is overkill I'm glad to call myself bi but that doesnt mean I'd like to announce. Its normal imo and me as a person is more that a sexual orientation category.
As somebody who has written and self published 2 novels, I can appreciate (regardless if I agree with it or not) the complexity of characterization and storylines. What I felt, especially with Korra and Asami, is the genuine love they have for each other. That's not something you can not feel when you see/read the stories. I appreciate the videos you do.
@💜Moonzeclipse💜 as many as you want. Keep in mind that the average novel is about 40,000 words. My books are twice that length and each have about 50 chapters
Thank you for including that Nickolodeon didn't let the writers of Korra make Asami and Korra's relationship more clear. I remember being 14 and hoping every week of the final season's release that'd we get more Korra and Asami together. I wish we could have seen a LoK made without studio censorship!
Nickelodeon didn’t really accept the LGBTQ community into their shows until The Loud House when it was revealed Clyde had two dads, and it was welcomed with open arms ever since since it was very well-received. Personally I’m not gay or bisexual, I’m as straight as a board, but I’m very glad that LGBTQ is becoming more accepted and common now in animation.
Studio interfernece is no exuse for garbage writing im surprised theese clowns dropped the ball so badly by spitting on everything atla bulit up forever tainting them as hacks.
As someone's who's been out of the closet about their bisexuality since 2014, I'm honestly surprised about just how much bi representation this series had. Knew about Korra despite not watching all of it, but I totally forgot Kyoshi was bisexual. Glad to see this, MovieFlame. I love your videos. 🥰
Their still many parts of the world that is not ready for that type of change and some may never change, only time will tell when those countries accept LGBTQ
I always hated those that try to force or shame people onto being 'private' Like, seriously. Everything about straight relationships is gossiped about, fantasized and even celebrated with more than one party thrown in the honor of the bride, the groom and both from bachelor/Bachelorette parties to baby showers, bridal showers, wedding showers, hell, there's even divorce parties to help people get over bad break ups. But rlto say there's nothing to celebrate in gay relationships is just absurd when they are the exact same things that people look for in relationships, just with the obvious being with someone of the same gender, and to say that you can't even talk about is a huge sign of an asshole society.
Most people aren't gay. You can go cry about it to the government but nothing you say will ever make me comfortable around people who can't even accept themselves.
To be honest at first I was no clue how did Korrasami came out .But then I rewatched the whole show with a mind that how it will end and I could clearly see the hints that an author put. It is just the show was too censored and I can understand why for a lot of ppl it was not convenient at all
The way I view same sex relationships is everyone is falling in love with who they want to fall in love with no matter their gender and I may be straight but I will always accept someone who is gay,straight or anything they want to be because that’s who they are
I’m not gonna lie, when I was young I thought same sex relationships were unnatural and shouldn’t be encouraged, but as I realized that as long as the couple is happy with who they end up with and aren’t hurting anyone, then it shouldn’t really matter. And watching the shows and reading the comics(along with watching other shows and movies with same sex relationships like Gravity Falls The Loud House and The Owl House)was a big part in helping me realize how toxic that mindset really is. Because of that, even though I’m not gay, I’m not against other people for being gay and they should be allowed to date who they want if it makes them happy. And now I heavily encourage people to date and marry who the love regardless of gender.
Actually as a kid I never thought about it and was only introduced to it when I found one of the characters in a book I read was gay, and it was in a positive view, so yeah. I'm not part of the LGBTQ+ community, but I support it, always had Edit, after a year: I am now pan and demi-
The chemistry Sozin and Roku had is romantic. At least coming from Sozin. So yeah, it's pretty safe to say that because of being rejected by Roku he repressed his sexuality to the extent of repressing everybody's.
Another reason being gay was probably very easy for Air Nomads was the gender-segregation in the air temples: north and south for men, east and west for women. Also, they didn't tie nuclear families to reproduction and probably didn't even have the notion of marriage, so nobody could argue "how will you have kids".
Those saying "This isn't appropriate for children" etc. Where were you when he made videos about heterosexual ships? My 11 y/o brother is gay and was always afraid of coming out but representation like this in many other stories too helped him accept himself. Biggest examples are Avatar, Nico from Percy Jackson and Miraculous Ladybug - All these are kids stories with AMAZING queer representation. If it doesn't apply to you doesn't mean it doesn't apply to other people. If you can't say something good then stfu.
yeah representation like this can help people feel good about being themselves, yet people still think "smh stop shoving this lgbt bullshit into these childfriendly shows its not relevant to the plot >:("
The impact that all this had, especially Korrasami, is undeniable. I'm still in love with people's reactions to seeing our dream come true. The stories I've heard, the inspiration they provided, the mark they left on thousands of people... It was thanks to Korrasami that I was able to accept myself as I am, and it's something so special. And it's wonderful that so many people share similar experiences. All of this speaks to Korrasami being made with love. They fought against everything to give us this beautiful story, and this was revolutionary, it is and will always be present.
When you think about, doesn’t it more since for the Avatar to be bi or gay? They have multiple lives both as both men and women. So they’ll definitely have multiple partners
Thank you for this one Morgan. The LGBT history in the Avatar world definitely hits differently now in hindsight. I’m not 🏳️🌈 myself but I have plenty of friends who are who looked to Korra, Asami, & Kyoshi as shining examples. In fact my niece has a GF and she said “We’re just like Korra & Asami now, right?” Granted her parents made a huge deal about it, embarrassing her to no end, but those two have my full support. I’m looking forward to knowing more about Kyoshi’s journey in hopefully more novels.
Korra and Asami are a lot like Velma and Marcie from Scooby Doo: Mystery Incorporated. in Season 1 of MI the creators tried having Velma and Shaggy in a relationship, but they didn't work out like Fred and Daphne do. Throughout season 1, Velma was practically questioning her sexuality during her on again, off again relationship with Shaggy. In season 2, while Mystery Inc was on a temporary split, Velma spends time with Marcie, who was one of the villains in season 1, but the two had a mutual understanding. Yet Mystery Incorporated was another show where the creators were not permitted by the network to portray same-sex couples at that time.
I’m a bisexual woman and I think that the bisexual end to korra was kind of out of the blue I think the writers dropped the ball. I want to the comments their bisexual not lesbian (nothing against lesbians).
I used to think that, but have since changed my mind. I think you can look at their relationship as one where two friends slowly develop feelings for one another. The kiss was basically the beginning of their relationship and the realization that they loved each other romantically as well as platonically. It's also pretty typical of people who are demiromantic to not show signs of romantic attraction until later. Their relationship doesn't have a typical trajectory, but it doesn't necessarily come out of no where.
I mean, you can pretty much thank Nickelodeon for that. They pushed back against the writers on it, but with it being the last season they said "screw it" and put it in anyways since Nick couldn't exactly cancel the show at that point
As he said in the video, Nikelodeon restricted them so much so that the moment at the end felt like it came out of nowhere, if they would have gotten their way I'm sure there would have been more buildup to it. And he did mention that Korra is bisexual
Aaa love this video! As a gay person myself it's beautiful to see these characters development in the series and comics. It's always so natural. My favorite one is Korra's and Asami's because it wasn't even said verbally in the series but people understood. It's so natural! I loved it. Thank you for the video Morgan!
for everyone thats like "oh its being shoved in my face what happened to this family friendly channel" this channel discusses straight relationships too. its like 50% of the channel or something. also, its not being shoved in your face, heterosexuality appears way more than homosexuality in LITERALLY ANYTHING. anything with a love interest that is the opposite gender is heterosexuality. think about how many more things youve seen like that than this.
Also it's funny how often for those people that "being shoved in your face" is just "this exists". By their standards Mr and Mrs Potatohead were "shoving their sexuality in your face" too. They only care when it's not their side.
Tbh, with the reveal of Asami and Korra's relationship, it felt like just another retrospective "oh yeah, they were gay" statement just to make them seem more woke, so I had a very negative opinion of it for a long time. I was very tired of token gay characters, characters whose entire personality was just 🌈IMGAYLOOK🌈, and other half-assed representation to make them look woke. Of course, now they have a more diverse group of gay characters now that they've become more independent and it doesn't seem like such a cop out to me. I still wish there could have been more moments, even if they were subtle, earlier on in the series of either Asami or Korra being interested in the same sex, but I can understand series being stifled by producers. (Gotta make a contribution to the algorithm gods, so, reposting this here too 🙏)
Unfortunately, Nick fought them on the gay issue, so they had to keep it on the DL. they finally went out on the last episode because what are they going to do to cancel the show? But now that they have their own studio, they can finally go all out.
To me Korra and Asami were definetely not just gay characters. Just like other characters, they have multiple sides, and especially Korra goes through a lot of character growth, which was so beautiful to see. And they both have their own personalities which I love.
I don't really see why it would need to be hinted earlier on - Korra had two other love interests at the time, right, and it's not like straight characters are constantly showing that they're straight either, unless they are specifically written to show interest in other people all the time (Sokka). Like, think about Zuko, I think technically his interest in women isn't revealed until Book 2 Episode 15 of ATLA? Before that he isn't really concerned with romance The idea that you'd be able to "tell" that someone is bi or gay before they ever meet a character of the same gender that they get a chance to develop a closer bond with seems strange to me, which female character could she have shown interest in early on in the series? I think it'd have been way *worse* if they had written in another character for the sole purpose of "showing Korra is bi", or rushed her relationship with Asami, which imo felt really natural, only developing later
@@newsoupvialt I mostly say that because it's nice when a series hints at things slower on. It's kinda like proof of "We planned something like this from the get go" sort of thing. It makes it seem more genuine than just having the vaguest of hints in only the last season before just stating outright that they're gay. It doesn't matter now, since in retrospect we can see their intentions were genuine, but having hints to a character's sexuality earlier on would have made it seem less out of the blue. Granted, I'm not a writer so idk how I would even want to see such hinting executed, and I didn't have much interest in Korra by the time the last season came around. I was only really watching it because I don't like not knowing how a series will end.
“It’s quite sad” Said Morgan, I’am studing history with special focus on historical white and strath washing of history, so I feel confident enough to say, even though I only am bisexual and have only been in one gay relationship, and where the worst thing I experienced was that my father repeatedly called me a sissy and that my brother kept telling homophobic jokes, as well as suggest that it all just was my atutism that had made me confused about whether I was a man or a woman, "gay history is univasally quite sad and still is." As always good work, i like your videos a lot. Frederick Agerbo
May i say, that you’re not ”only bisexual” and your bad experiences with your family are not only a few little things that have happened or something. Even one bad experience is too much, and we bisexuals are just as queer and an important part of this community as everybody else❤️🏳️🌈
Most of history wasn't "white- straight" washed. Democrats were freaking evil, for sure. Many people of all walks came together to boot them down. Why people support them today is beyond me.
Thank you for covering this. You explain very clearly and I wish we could see more of Kya in her youth. Especially that big getaway with her girlfriend. I think that your list turned me away from the Kiyoshi novels though, as they fall into the trope of having a bisexual female lead in whose story the male love interest is literally gotten rid of. These stories often seem to be a no-brainer when it comes to bisexual female leads. At best it’s a messy breakup at worst the Male love interest dies. 😔😔😔 I think we can all agree that there should be more such characters. The number should go into the double digits. Right? 🏳️🌈
No the first avatar was straight he was male so every avatar after him will love woman so every male avatar was straight and every female avatar was lesbians or bisexual
I am just happy that unlike other companies like Disney and Netflix Avatar atleast showed that there fictional world isn't just magically accepting of the LGBT they show both good and bad sides coz in Disney movies a gay character appears and nobody bats an eye that doesn't make sense Avatar is one of the few shows which shows reality and Fiction at the same time and shows it really well.
This video was amazing! I loved hearing about all of the Gay characters we know about. (I'm a huge Korrasami shipper.) It's amazing to see a lesbian couple on one of my favorite childhood series', with me later coming out as a lesbian myself. I love your videos! I haven't been subscribed long, but you've become one of my favorite RUclipsrs.
Transfiguration (McGonagall), defence against the dark arts (They always change lol), potions Snape / Slughorn), astronomy (Sinistra), arithmancy, ancient runes, history of magic (Binns), Divination (Trelawney / Firenze) that’s all I can remember lol
For all the people who think this is unnecessary. Think about your own sexuality and imagine you didn't see any representation. Or very little. Why don't you need it? Probably because you are hetero and thus have seen enough representation and don't need it yourself. Or because it doesnt apply to you and thus you find it unnecessary and that makes you a little ignorant. Not thinking these conversations are important just shows that you are uncomfortable with it and that means you should look at it and unpack it for your own and other people's mental health. Show some empathy. Thanks for the great video Movieflame! ❤️
even in the zuko reign being gay is banned is 99% of the countries in this would and theirs and for good reason there is no reason and it doesnt benefit humans in anyway
@@ShadowDashhif it's not helpful to humanity then why does it still exist? You're not a scientist, a doctor or a scholar. You're just a human with an agenda so shush
I think it could be an interesting part of the universe if the fire nation use the fact the air nomads are open to same sex couples as a reason for "justifying" making it a crime something along the lines of saying it showed sympathy with the enemy it sounds like something they would do
You don't "turn" a sexuality or gender orientation, thats your born and given neurobiology. If you're trying to tell us watching enough pride flags would make you experiment with homosexuality, then just say you're queer, otherwise recognize being straight as the way you were born, and something others don't get "turned" from either.
Great video! I always wondered about the comic characters never being able to read them yet. It’s sad to see so many immature people who can’t handle casual love. But if they can’t handle that they probably don’t understand the majority of the story arcs and purposes. Can’t fix stupid :) Your work is so appreciated and so thought through us LGBTQ+ love you and your videos!
For the people who are commenting negatively do you really think the fact that you unsubscribed or disliked the video makes any difference? Movieflame does a fantastic job of making videos based on the content of series/films regardless of the topic. Of all the people currently subscribed I'm sure he won't lose sleep over small minded people dropping off 👍
Interesting how the air nomad was the most accepting since it kinda true to real life monk there are saying that monk who had sex with women are consider a crime while if you do it with a man then its consider okay
When homophobes dont like the lgbtq representation they call it forced. Even if a series shows a lgbtq relationship from the beginning they will still call it forced.
I'm sure that since the 100 year war is over, Zuko made the Fire Nation tolerant again but better. Those of us with lgbt family member r always excepting and embraced (like myself with my brother). Those who r ignorant cause of religious beliefs, nation cultures you're raised in, or it's just *u*, I say to those lgbt folks..."U don't need that venom in ur life. Someday they'll come around and you'll b a family again. If they don't, then blood relations is all you've got but it isn't everything. U deserve to b happy and loved. They can b in ur prayers (praying for their welfare and stuff), always have a place in ur heart ♥, but they never b in ur life until they change and embrace u entirely."
@@awmsquare-a4621 exactly. i agree with you. i'm sick and tired of hearing that religious people like Christians are homophobic, because we are NOT! the definition of homophobia is "dislike of or prejudice against gay people." read that again. PEOPLE! not supporting homosexuality because of religion and hating gay people are NOT the same thing, and if someone thinks they are (like most gay people do), they are stupid. i might not have a hatred for gay people, but i hate that people are such snowflakes and cant take even one bit of "criticism." but you know what? it's only fair, because they make it out as they constantly face discrimination, but that makes no sense because homosexuality is widely accepted now. and it shouldnt be, because homosexuality ties into depression, and not because of the "discrimination" they face. they get pissed when they open up about their sexuality and get "discriminated" against. i know i probably sound like a broken record, but its true, and before anyone calls me homophobic, let me reiterate. i dont hate gay people, i just hate everything that homosexuality stands for. those are 2 different things.
@@awmsquare-a4621 A stated tenet of the Abrahamic mytholgy is that homosexuality is an abomination. By that very nature, religious people are anti-LGBTQ+. If you claim to a Christian for example but also support LGBTQ+ rights, then you are not a very god Christian and frankly much better off because of that.
Thank you for being such a great ally and for making content about LGBTQ characters & stories. Even though you’ve had backlash in the past, there are people out there who will be impacted in such a positive way by creators pushing the norm and normalising these stories and conversations.
One of the things I love about the Avatar world is how creative it it does things and it's all unique way that makes it both simple and beautiful I think that the fact that they expanded on the parts of gay relationship is a very good step forward as most shows don't do that at least not most animated shows.
It makes me laugh how, if mako was talking to past Zuko on the scene where he says “that’s rough buddy” to sokka, and instead of sokka saying ‘my girlfriend turned into the moon.” Mako says “My two ex-girlfriends started going out with each other” Zuko- that’s rough buddy 😔😔
Here is an intersting question: Would the term "Lesbian" exist in the Avatar universe? I ask because in our world, the term "lesbian" is based on a Greek poet who came from Lesbos, which is a Greek island off the coast of Turkey. In the Avatarverse, Lesbos presumably does not exist, nor did the poet Sappho, so it wouldn't make sense for homosexual women in the Avatar universe to be called "lesbians".
@@vilmublues752 Fair point. I always wondered that about fictional universes like Avatar for terms that have geographic roots tied to our world like "Lesbian" vs "lesbian". Just one of those details that mean little to the actual story but help build the world.
I loved the video. I am pan and one of my biggest issue's with the whole keep it to your selves thing is that no one tells that to straight people. Many straight couples show there partner how much they love and care for them with very public displays of affection as well as actions and there is nothing wrong with that. But when those same people tell gay bi and lesbian couples that they don't want to see that and should keep it to themselves. To say it is upsetting is a massive understatement. Everyone deserves to show their love for their partner. Showing your feelings and Emotions for one you love so deeply and that loves you the same way is the right of every living person and creature. To tell someone to hide who they are to hide there love or that who they is crime or un natural is simply wrong. Love is what can truly save the world. to try to control manipulate break and corrupt it will alway continue to create a world of pain and sadness. Never be afraid of who you are. ones sexuality is a beautiful thing that should be able to be expressed.
"lets keep this comment section hate-free" Hate Hate Hate (Disclaimer:No Hate is actually directed,this is just a joke Im sorry If I offended anybody).
@@catholicteenthings still a family friendly and chill channel 😊 do you have a problem with other straight characters getting married? Shouldn’t have a problem for these couples.
@xxRavenawQueenie nothing happened to it, since my second Harry Potter video on this channel (my Dumbledore and Grindelwald love relationship video) I have been making videos supporting the lgbtq+ community. This channel has been this way since the beginning
You know I wonder how all of the gaang would feel about LGBTQ relationships. I always thought it would go something like this. Aang: extremely supportive Sokka: would also be really supportive to the point that you don't get mad when he makes jokes about it. Katara: would not make a huge deal about it Toph: straight up wouldn't care Zuko: would probably think it's a little bit weird at first but eventually accept it.
When I was younger the Legend of Korra helped me embrace my sexuality. Being a bisexual myself, it really felt good seeing the main character in a series I loved being together with a male and later down the road developing romantic feelings for a female. I since then came out to my friends and family, including cousin, who got me into Avatar in the first place and she was so supportive and said I was really brave. I have to give credit for the series for helping me for figuring out my sexuality and embracing myself of who I was❤
Thank you for covering this! And being brave enough to put up with the nasty comments. I really wished they'd delved into Kyoshis storyline more in the show.
These shows helped me be comfortable on coming out
Good on you, bro ❤️
happy for you 💕💕
I came out as bisexual while still in high school and that was hard but avatar and korra helped me and I’m very happy about it.
Get right with God.
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mako: my two ex girlfriends got together
zuko: that’s rough buddy
Maybe he shouldn't have cheated on Asami 😂
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@@GaiaTheNatureWitchCan u please give me the order of the comics after the final season of korra 😢
looks like kristen stewart who broken with her BF.
@@mimikpmturf wars parts 1-3, then Ruins of the empire 1-3, and then there's some anthology comics about TLOK characters in both the free comic day ATLA book and patterns in time :)
Earth Kingdom really went: “There are no gays in Ba Sing Se” 💀
LMFAO U WRONG FOR THAT 😭
@@sandinmytoes7027 LOL YAASS
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Damn
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C'mon, we all know sozin banned homosexuality because roku didnt like him back
THIS 😭😭
what the flip 😭😭
Noooo
@@M3NT4LLYVNST4BL3what the flip is right
kinda offtopic, but the sozin thing reminded me of firelords, so new gay avatar crackship idea: zoryu x yun
kyoshi is such a badass and her story is just fantastic as well.
Ima kyoshi fan
Yeah i want a spin-off series about her story
Too bad she's gay
@@dimazfantasy5252fr, she’s probably my favorite. And would have liked to see her personal side come out more too. Some backstory
I cant be the only one that feels like korrasami was not forced at all. They started off as friends and grew closer over the course of the show, especially during season 4. The whole thing felt natural to me and I don’t think it came out of no where.
It's just subtle enough that I think you could pretty easily miss it. Of the three reactors I've watched react to Korra all the way through, two of them didn't see it coming, and the one that did was an actual lesbian couple, so
Why? Because Korra was a tomboy & Asami rode & motorcycle & was a scientist?
Same. And I like that in the series they only they made a hint on their future relationship. A lot of people forget that they didnt start to date in the end of cartoon
you are not the only one
It was forced because it was the end. They made an already unliked avatar into a last stupid memory. She was a slut, plain and simple.
I think most people hated the lesbian reveal at the end of Kora for two reasons: either because people felt it was forced or they wanted to see more of the relationship developing
Technically that could be the Beginning of their relationship, or the begging of her realising that she is Bisexual.
Edit: It was actually foreshadowed all the way back in Season 1
Nothing was forced, they pointed towards it for the entire last season
@@JimmyNails27 plus it was a slow build up if you notice very carefully
Tbh, with the reveal of Asami and Korra's relationship, it felt like just another retrospective "oh yeah, they were gay" statement just to make them seem more woke, so I had a very negative opinion of it for a long time. I was very tired of token gay characters, characters whose entire personality was just 🌈IMGAYLOOK🌈, and other half-assed representation to make them look woke.
Everybody wanted Mako to be bisexual
Rangi and Kyoshi were probably one of if not the best written romance in avatar universe and one of my favourite in media in general. They deeply cared about eachother, helped eachother in fight and daily life, they never were uncomfortably lovey dovey and whole thier development felt just real. I really hope we will get more content about them
I have to agree their romance was well written and actually made sense.
Korra really said: I'm mrs take yo bitch💀
To the people saying that the korrasami reveal feels forced or out of the blue, I'd like to remind you that the reason there was not as much build up as some of us would have liked was because of the push back to represent queer characters at the time, especially in children's media. Korrasami was really kind of a starting point to push for more solid representation and to hold it to the standards of today is unfair. We were lucky to even get the hints we got and then the flat out confirmation so soon after the show aired.
Exactly this! Korrasami even predates Steven Universe's confirmation of Ruby/Sapphire relationship by a few months.
This! And to add some details, in the fourth season, Korra was recovering mentally and physically from s3 finale+other events and Asami was building up her company, and not to mention the whole thing with Kuvira. Do ppl think this is the time where both of em would have been like ”well I’m gonna use my pick up lines and get that girl😏😉”. And after the final battle is over, and they both have grown during the events, they decide to get on a journey together.
In ATLA there weren’t that much of romance either between Katara and Aang, just little hints and throw away lines, but ppl still saw their relationship coming from a mile away.
I believe that Korasami was the first LGBT couple in children’s animated shows which was even more lucky for us
People don't realize that we are living in a VERY new renaissance of queer media. Only a decade ago (less than half a decade before TLOK), Ugly Betty was criticized for including a kiss between two male teenagers -- and that show might as well have had a "THIS IS A GAY SHOW" sticker on it. Before that, and even after (depending on the program), LGBTQ+ characters had to be codified or would not be allowed at all.
Of course TLOK couldn't give a full, fleshed-out romance plot.
yep thats why all media is going bankrupted cuz they picked a side that doesnt pay or watch stuff like this lmao Good job helping kill shows and movies @@zammich3649
You know, I love Kya, I relate to her a lot by keeping her orientation personal. I really feel like it’s a personal manner.
People often get upset at me for not waving pride flags or going to parades, but those have never felt right for me. I sometimes feel like in this modern world people are trying to exploit my orientation, whether it’s Politicians trying to seem woke, or business trying to give me a useless product, just cause it’s rainbow and June.
Based, i love being out about who I am, but that isn’t for everyone
@@lextatertotsfromhell7673
I just rather be known for other stuff. I mean your not going to get a job for being Gay, your going to get a job on skills and education, so that’s what I make my main focus.
Brilliant comment. My friends also say the same thing. It’s a cash grab used by corporations
A very sensible person
You're basically me. Sometimes I feel like all rainbow is overkill I'm glad to call myself bi but that doesnt mean I'd like to announce. Its normal imo and me as a person is more that a sexual orientation category.
As somebody who has written and self published 2 novels, I can appreciate (regardless if I agree with it or not) the complexity of characterization and storylines. What I felt, especially with Korra and Asami, is the genuine love they have for each other. That's not something you can not feel when you see/read the stories. I appreciate the videos you do.
Excuse me, but I'm writing a book and may I ask how many chapters should I make??
@💜Moonzeclipse💜 as many as you want. Keep in mind that the average novel is about 40,000 words. My books are twice that length and each have about 50 chapters
@@marquesbowden0130 amazing!!
And do you recommend any goid publishers?
What genre?
@@HighLordoftheBathroom Urban Fantasy
From Kyoshi’s novel, I can feel the powerful of love between Kyoshi and Rangi. They are perfectly made for each other.
the noodle scene lives rent free in my brain at all times i love them sm 😭
@@godlesssnowshoe and Hei Ran got a new daughter.😂😂
Thank you for including that Nickolodeon didn't let the writers of Korra make Asami and Korra's relationship more clear. I remember being 14 and hoping every week of the final season's release that'd we get more Korra and Asami together. I wish we could have seen a LoK made without studio censorship!
Of course Nickolodeon wont include it. Its a kid show. How will the parents explain it to their kids if they show it.
Nickelodeon didn’t really accept the LGBTQ community into their shows until The Loud House when it was revealed Clyde had two dads, and it was welcomed with open arms ever since since it was very well-received. Personally I’m not gay or bisexual, I’m as straight as a board, but I’m very glad that LGBTQ is becoming more accepted and common now in animation.
@@zinxxx1857 Simple, explain that two women can love eachother and that there are gay people in the world. It isn't as complicated as you think
Studio interfernece is no exuse for garbage writing im surprised theese clowns dropped the ball so badly by spitting on everything atla bulit up forever tainting them as hacks.
It would be nice to see their first kiss animated and more of their relationship on screen but without nickelodeon, the show would probably not be PG
As someone's who's been out of the closet about their bisexuality since 2014, I'm honestly surprised about just how much bi representation this series had. Knew about Korra despite not watching all of it, but I totally forgot Kyoshi was bisexual. Glad to see this, MovieFlame. I love your videos. 🥰
Nickelodeon has since allowed LGBTQ characters in some of it's other shows since then, Like the Loud House being the biggest example.
Kyoshi wasn't in the shows much so was revealed outside the TV show. Instead, it was in the comics, novels and the show creators reveal.
Weirdo
@@Simplebtd And why is this person a weirdo??
@@Simplebtd how?
It’s sucks that Korra got banned in some places for having LGBTQ characters
Not sad at all
@@mysticarrows4413 how
that's good
Their still many parts of the world that is not ready for that type of change and some may never change, only time will tell when those countries accept LGBTQ
They just dont want the force representation and the problem of them west
I always hated those that try to force or shame people onto being 'private'
Like, seriously. Everything about straight relationships is gossiped about, fantasized and even celebrated with more than one party thrown in the honor of the bride, the groom and both from bachelor/Bachelorette parties to baby showers, bridal showers, wedding showers, hell, there's even divorce parties to help people get over bad break ups.
But rlto say there's nothing to celebrate in gay relationships is just absurd when they are the exact same things that people look for in relationships, just with the obvious being with someone of the same gender, and to say that you can't even talk about is a huge sign of an asshole society.
Bro is gay😂😂😂😂🚮🚮🚮
Most people aren't gay. You can go cry about it to the government but nothing you say will ever make me comfortable around people who can't even accept themselves.
To be honest at first I was no clue how did Korrasami came out .But then I rewatched the whole show with a mind that how it will end and I could clearly see the hints that an author put. It is just the show was too censored and I can understand why for a lot of ppl it was not convenient at all
Tbh KorraSami was too subtle that it was very easy to miss the hints. I was like where was this pairing came out
The way I view same sex relationships is everyone is falling in love with who they want to fall in love with no matter their gender and I may be straight but I will always accept someone who is gay,straight or anything they want to be because that’s who they are
Wise words, indeed
I’m not gonna lie, when I was young I thought same sex relationships were unnatural and shouldn’t be encouraged, but as I realized that as long as the couple is happy with who they end up with and aren’t hurting anyone, then it shouldn’t really matter. And watching the shows and reading the comics(along with watching other shows and movies with same sex relationships like Gravity Falls The Loud House and The Owl House)was a big part in helping me realize how toxic that mindset really is. Because of that, even though I’m not gay, I’m not against other people for being gay and they should be allowed to date who they want if it makes them happy. And now I heavily encourage people to date and marry who the love regardless of gender.
I was like that when I was a kid as well
Actually as a kid I never thought about it and was only introduced to it when I found one of the characters in a book I read was gay, and it was in a positive view, so yeah. I'm not part of the LGBTQ+ community, but I support it, always had
Edit, after a year: I am now pan and demi-
same
I am gay and even I thought like that as a kid
Me too
Mako: Both my ex’s are dating
Sokka: my first girlfriend turned into the moon
That’s rough buddy -- zuko
Didn't Sozin banned gay sex because Roku left him?😂
absolutely
bitch was like "if i cant have my gay shit noone can"
There friends😭🤣💀
@@CXOJ556 keep telling yourself that 😆
The chemistry Sozin and Roku had is romantic. At least coming from Sozin. So yeah, it's pretty safe to say that because of being rejected by Roku he repressed his sexuality to the extent of repressing everybody's.
Another reason being gay was probably very easy for Air Nomads was the gender-segregation in the air temples: north and south for men, east and west for women. Also, they didn't tie nuclear families to reproduction and probably didn't even have the notion of marriage, so nobody could argue "how will you have kids".
Those saying "This isn't appropriate for children" etc. Where were you when he made videos about heterosexual ships? My 11 y/o brother is gay and was always afraid of coming out but representation like this in many other stories too helped him accept himself. Biggest examples are Avatar, Nico from Percy Jackson and Miraculous Ladybug - All these are kids stories with AMAZING queer representation. If it doesn't apply to you doesn't mean it doesn't apply to other people. If you can't say something good then stfu.
And she-ra too!!
yeah representation like this can help people feel good about being themselves, yet people still think "smh stop shoving this lgbt bullshit into these childfriendly shows its not relevant to the plot >:("
@@princessgoingdigitalz maybe, haven't seen it
🤓🤓🤓
We dont care if u are gay or not
bruh in my opinion, people should be more like the air nomads, nobody cares what orientation they are, and they dont make a big deal of it
The impact that all this had, especially Korrasami, is undeniable.
I'm still in love with people's reactions to seeing our dream come true. The stories I've heard, the inspiration they provided, the mark they left on thousands of people...
It was thanks to Korrasami that I was able to accept myself as I am, and it's something so special. And it's wonderful that so many people share similar experiences.
All of this speaks to Korrasami being made with love. They fought against everything to give us this beautiful story, and this was revolutionary, it is and will always be present.
Thx for being part of the reason my favorite show has become unwatchable
i mean out of 10k years worth of lives there has to be at least a couple gay avatars
All the female avatars are probably bi or gay
When you think about, doesn’t it more since for the Avatar to be bi or gay? They have multiple lives both as both men and women. So they’ll definitely have multiple partners
Not really. The Avatars were all different people with different personalities. They don't share the same feelings or unsavory sexual orientations
No not at all. They all have unique personalities and character traits.
I'm 100% that Toph will be some form of LGBT in the Netflix series.
nah I don't think so. She's already married two guys and had children with them.
Tf r u on
Thank you for this one Morgan. The LGBT history in the Avatar world definitely hits differently now in hindsight.
I’m not 🏳️🌈 myself but I have plenty of friends who are who looked to Korra, Asami, & Kyoshi as shining examples.
In fact my niece has a GF and she said “We’re just like Korra & Asami now, right?”
Granted her parents made a huge deal about it, embarrassing her to no end, but those two have my full support. I’m looking forward to knowing more about Kyoshi’s journey in hopefully more novels.
Yangchen novel also includes a gay couple. It's really great that these shows, comics, books show inclusion to everyone! Thanks for the content!
Korra and Asami are a lot like Velma and Marcie from Scooby Doo: Mystery Incorporated. in Season 1 of MI the creators tried having Velma and Shaggy in a relationship, but they didn't work out like Fred and Daphne do. Throughout season 1, Velma was practically questioning her sexuality during her on again, off again relationship with Shaggy. In season 2, while Mystery Inc was on a temporary split, Velma spends time with Marcie, who was one of the villains in season 1, but the two had a mutual understanding. Yet Mystery Incorporated was another show where the creators were not permitted by the network to portray same-sex couples at that time.
I’m a bisexual woman and I think that the bisexual end to korra was kind of out of the blue I think the writers dropped the ball. I want to the comments their bisexual not lesbian (nothing against lesbians).
I used to think that, but have since changed my mind.
I think you can look at their relationship as one where two friends slowly develop feelings for one another. The kiss was basically the beginning of their relationship and the realization that they loved each other romantically as well as platonically. It's also pretty typical of people who are demiromantic to not show signs of romantic attraction until later. Their relationship doesn't have a typical trajectory, but it doesn't necessarily come out of no where.
I mean, you can pretty much thank Nickelodeon for that. They pushed back against the writers on it, but with it being the last season they said "screw it" and put it in anyways since Nick couldn't exactly cancel the show at that point
Well thats nickelodions fault, story wouldve had more LGBTQIA+ characters if they could.
As he said in the video, Nikelodeon restricted them so much so that the moment at the end felt like it came out of nowhere, if they would have gotten their way I'm sure there would have been more buildup to it. And he did mention that Korra is bisexual
Yes the creator shouldn't have made them canon just because the studio was homophobic.
Aaa love this video! As a gay person myself it's beautiful to see these characters development in the series and comics. It's always so natural. My favorite one is Korra's and Asami's because it wasn't even said verbally in the series but people understood. It's so natural! I loved it. Thank you for the video Morgan!
Ok, I'll leave a peaceful comment.
Hamsters aren't made of ham.
🤧🤧 So moving 🥺🥺
@@sarahcatlove3646 hahahaha what the heck 😂😂😂
for everyone thats like "oh its being shoved in my face what happened to this family friendly channel" this channel discusses straight relationships too. its like 50% of the channel or something. also, its not being shoved in your face, heterosexuality appears way more than homosexuality in LITERALLY ANYTHING. anything with a love interest that is the opposite gender is heterosexuality. think about how many more things youve seen like that than this.
It is bad if I like more het ships than slash one?
Also it's funny how often for those people that "being shoved in your face" is just "this exists". By their standards Mr and Mrs Potatohead were "shoving their sexuality in your face" too. They only care when it's not their side.
@@PolishAxolotl usually the het ships are actually cannon so i get that
also the slash ones usually make no sense; i.e drarry
Tbh, with the reveal of Asami and Korra's relationship, it felt like just another retrospective "oh yeah, they were gay" statement just to make them seem more woke, so I had a very negative opinion of it for a long time. I was very tired of token gay characters, characters whose entire personality was just 🌈IMGAYLOOK🌈, and other half-assed representation to make them look woke. Of course, now they have a more diverse group of gay characters now that they've become more independent and it doesn't seem like such a cop out to me. I still wish there could have been more moments, even if they were subtle, earlier on in the series of either Asami or Korra being interested in the same sex, but I can understand series being stifled by producers.
(Gotta make a contribution to the algorithm gods, so, reposting this here too 🙏)
Unfortunately, Nick fought them on the gay issue, so they had to keep it on the DL. they finally went out on the last episode because what are they going to do to cancel the show? But now that they have their own studio, they can finally go all out.
Yeah, but you gotta remember in those days it was hard to get gay characters out so publicly. We're lucky we even got that ending.
To me Korra and Asami were definetely not just gay characters. Just like other characters, they have multiple sides, and especially Korra goes through a lot of character growth, which was so beautiful to see. And they both have their own personalities which I love.
I don't really see why it would need to be hinted earlier on - Korra had two other love interests at the time, right, and it's not like straight characters are constantly showing that they're straight either, unless they are specifically written to show interest in other people all the time (Sokka). Like, think about Zuko, I think technically his interest in women isn't revealed until Book 2 Episode 15 of ATLA? Before that he isn't really concerned with romance
The idea that you'd be able to "tell" that someone is bi or gay before they ever meet a character of the same gender that they get a chance to develop a closer bond with seems strange to me, which female character could she have shown interest in early on in the series? I think it'd have been way *worse* if they had written in another character for the sole purpose of "showing Korra is bi", or rushed her relationship with Asami, which imo felt really natural, only developing later
@@newsoupvialt I mostly say that because it's nice when a series hints at things slower on. It's kinda like proof of "We planned something like this from the get go" sort of thing. It makes it seem more genuine than just having the vaguest of hints in only the last season before just stating outright that they're gay. It doesn't matter now, since in retrospect we can see their intentions were genuine, but having hints to a character's sexuality earlier on would have made it seem less out of the blue.
Granted, I'm not a writer so idk how I would even want to see such hinting executed, and I didn't have much interest in Korra by the time the last season came around. I was only really watching it because I don't like not knowing how a series will end.
“It’s quite sad” Said Morgan, I’am studing history with special focus on historical white and strath washing of history, so I feel confident enough to say, even though I only am bisexual and have only been in one gay relationship, and where the worst thing I experienced was that my father repeatedly called me a sissy and that my brother kept telling homophobic jokes, as well as suggest that it all just was my atutism that had made me confused about whether I was a man or a woman, "gay history is univasally quite sad and still is."
As always good work, i like your videos a lot.
Frederick Agerbo
That really sucks
May i say, that you’re not ”only bisexual” and your bad experiences with your family are not only a few little things that have happened or something. Even one bad experience is too much, and we bisexuals are just as queer and an important part of this community as everybody else❤️🏳️🌈
Most of history wasn't "white- straight" washed. Democrats were freaking evil, for sure. Many people of all walks came together to boot them down. Why people support them today is beyond me.
Thank you for covering this. You explain very clearly and I wish we could see more of Kya in her youth. Especially that big getaway with her girlfriend. I think that your list turned me away from the Kiyoshi novels though, as they fall into the trope of having a bisexual female lead in whose story the male love interest is literally gotten rid of. These stories often seem to be a no-brainer when it comes to bisexual female leads. At best it’s a messy breakup at worst the Male love interest dies. 😔😔😔 I think we can all agree that there should be more such characters. The number should go into the double digits. Right? 🏳️🌈
The history of LQBTQ+ rights in Avatar universe was really enlightening, thank you so much for clarifying it.
No the first avatar was straight he was male so every avatar after him will love woman so every male avatar was straight and every female avatar was lesbians or bisexual
I have a video suggestion. I loved the video btw. You could make what house pj characters would be in or what godly parents hp characters might have
We really shouldn't be platforming JK right now
@@JimmyNails27 what
@@JimmyNails27 yes we should
@@JimmyNails27 We can admire the universe but leave her out of it. We all can love her creation but dislike her
Honestly Legend of Korra gave me the bravery to live as a Bisexual man despite being unaccepted and rejected by my family for it.
As a fellow bisexual man, keep kicking ass out there
I am just happy that unlike other companies like Disney and Netflix Avatar atleast showed that there fictional world isn't just magically accepting of the LGBT they show both good and bad sides coz in Disney movies a gay character appears and nobody bats an eye that doesn't make sense Avatar is one of the few shows which shows reality and Fiction at the same time and shows it really well.
Considering they're jumping back to Yangchen for the novels, I'm not sure they're going to continue Kyoshi's story (in this format at least).
Movie flame I enjoy watching your videos and I’m a fan of the channel
I'm Surprise of How Complex, Uniq, and Well Documented the History of LGBTQ+ Relationship in the Avatar aang/Korra World is.
This video was amazing! I loved hearing about all of the Gay characters we know about. (I'm a huge Korrasami shipper.) It's amazing to see a lesbian couple on one of my favorite childhood series', with me later coming out as a lesbian myself. I love your videos! I haven't been subscribed long, but you've become one of my favorite RUclipsrs.
Thank you Movieflame for this. I love that kids’ shows are getting more and more queer representation❤️🏳️🌈
The hell?
Dude i wouldnt call avatar kids show
Remember when the were putting that metal liquid in korra's body
Am still traumatized after watching that scene
To you all I have to say IS! Thank you for confirming the relationship between Korra and Asami.
I thought everyone knew
One of the worst relationship build up ever only beaten by catra and adora
@@soraceantthat’s your opinion🤷🏻♀️
sort by new if you wanna read some homophobic cringe
Yep.
Hi could you please do a video on all the subject taught at hogwarts and their professors
Transfiguration (McGonagall), defence against the dark arts (They always change lol), potions Snape / Slughorn), astronomy (Sinistra), arithmancy, ancient runes, history of magic (Binns), Divination (Trelawney / Firenze) that’s all I can remember lol
I think they've already been done, movieflame has collabed with Dean(Harry Potter Folklore) it's either on this channel or Dean's channel
He kinda did that w a collaboration with Dean of Harry Potter Theory
For all the people who think this is unnecessary. Think about your own sexuality and imagine you didn't see any representation. Or very little. Why don't you need it? Probably because you are hetero and thus have seen enough representation and don't need it yourself. Or because it doesnt apply to you and thus you find it unnecessary and that makes you a little ignorant. Not thinking these conversations are important just shows that you are uncomfortable with it and that means you should look at it and unpack it for your own and other people's mental health. Show some empathy.
Thanks for the great video Movieflame! ❤️
After Sozin's reign, did Firelord Azulon or Firelord Ozai revoked the same-sex relationship ban or was it only revoked during Firelord Zuko's reign?
even in the zuko reign being gay is banned is 99% of the countries in this would and theirs and for good reason there is no reason and it doesnt benefit humans in anyway
@@ShadowDashhif it's not helpful to humanity then why does it still exist?
You're not a scientist, a doctor or a scholar. You're just a human with an agenda so shush
Great video man!
kyoshi is a literal bicon
Also in the Yang Chen novels there are Tayagum and Akuudan, these are two water tribe guys who are married
was looking for this comment ur the best 😭
I think it could be an interesting part of the universe if the fire nation use the fact the air nomads are open to same sex couples as a reason for "justifying" making it a crime
something along the lines of saying it showed sympathy with the enemy
it sounds like something they would do
Sozin was just a bitter gay who was upset he didn't end up with Roku so he wants other gay people to face the same fate.
Not all same sex friendships are gay. No proof of Sozin being gay. Not even a little
Dude turned two chicks bisexual. Damn that’s tuff
I think you mean
"That's rough buddy"
You don't "turn" a sexuality or gender orientation, thats your born and given neurobiology. If you're trying to tell us watching enough pride flags would make you experiment with homosexuality, then just say you're queer, otherwise recognize being straight as the way you were born, and something others don't get "turned" from either.
About time for more avatar videos please keep them coming
Great video! I always wondered about the comic characters never being able to read them yet.
It’s sad to see so many immature people who can’t handle casual love. But if they can’t handle that they probably don’t understand the majority of the story arcs and purposes. Can’t fix stupid :)
Your work is so appreciated and so thought through us LGBTQ+ love you and your videos!
I love relationships like this. So passionately, so beautiful.
I bet the new avatar series is also going to mention a lot that being gay is not allowed in the fire nation
For the people who are commenting negatively do you really think the fact that you unsubscribed or disliked the video makes any difference? Movieflame does a fantastic job of making videos based on the content of series/films regardless of the topic. Of all the people currently subscribed I'm sure he won't lose sleep over small minded people dropping off 👍
Imagine seeing your two ex's getting together 😭😭🤣🤣
Exactly lmao couldn’t give my boi two
I guess if anyone lived that long they'll realize gender is fluid.
People can love whomever they please regardless of the body they were born with
Nice vid movie flame 🔥 u countine to impress me
0:02 I had this at full blast 😭😭
Wait I love this thank youuu
Mako kissed both korra and asami one by one to give them their indirect kiss 😂
Great video! Ignore the bad comments, you’re doing great!
this is the most gay video I've ever seen from movie flame
And that's how this anime died for 95% of the ex (anymore) community 😔
I didn’t know kaya was lesbian
I always love your avatar videos pls keep it up
Interesting how the air nomad was the most accepting since it kinda true to real life monk there are saying that monk who had sex with women are consider a crime while if you do it with a man then its consider okay
Shut up u dont know anything do u 😧
What kinda monks ? Like Tibetan monks
Pretty much every buddhist teaching does this (note me if im wrong thank you)
Interesting video morgan
I want to see a cartoon show of Kiyoshi. And they could get Jennifer Hale to come back to voice her
I’m not gay but I like seeing these vids so I stay mindfull
When homophobes dont like the lgbtq representation they call it forced. Even if a series shows a lgbtq relationship from the beginning they will still call it forced.
This show most definitely helped me coming out
I'm sure that since the 100 year war is over, Zuko made the Fire Nation tolerant again but better. Those of us with lgbt family member r always excepting and embraced (like myself with my brother). Those who r ignorant cause of religious beliefs, nation cultures you're raised in, or it's just *u*, I say to those lgbt folks..."U don't need that venom in ur life. Someday they'll come around and you'll b a family again. If they don't, then blood relations is all you've got but it isn't everything. U deserve to b happy and loved. They can b in ur prayers (praying for their welfare and stuff), always have a place in ur heart ♥, but they never b in ur life until they change and embrace u entirely."
Bold of u to assume us religious people are all like that 😴
@@awmsquare-a4621 exactly. i agree with you. i'm sick and tired of hearing that religious people like Christians are homophobic, because we are NOT! the definition of homophobia is "dislike of or prejudice against gay people." read that again. PEOPLE! not supporting homosexuality because of religion and hating gay people are NOT the same thing, and if someone thinks they are (like most gay people do), they are stupid. i might not have a hatred for gay people, but i hate that people are such snowflakes and cant take even one bit of "criticism." but you know what? it's only fair, because they make it out as they constantly face discrimination, but that makes no sense because homosexuality is widely accepted now. and it shouldnt be, because homosexuality ties into depression, and not because of the "discrimination" they face. they get pissed when they open up about their sexuality and get "discriminated" against. i know i probably sound like a broken record, but its true, and before anyone calls me homophobic, let me reiterate. i dont hate gay people, i just hate everything that homosexuality stands for. those are 2 different things.
@@awmsquare-a4621 A stated tenet of the Abrahamic mytholgy is that homosexuality is an abomination. By that very nature, religious people are anti-LGBTQ+. If you claim to a Christian for example but also support LGBTQ+ rights, then you are not a very god Christian and frankly much better off because of that.
@@adamreneau9213 No, you are homophobic.
@@awmsquare-a4621 most of you are and blame on the book so it's not weird to think that
Thank you for posting the video.
Thank you for being such a great ally and for making content about LGBTQ characters & stories. Even though you’ve had backlash in the past, there are people out there who will be impacted in such a positive way by creators pushing the norm and normalising these stories and conversations.
I had no idea there was 9 characters that are in lgbtq community besides korra. 🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️
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One of the things I love about the Avatar world is how creative it it does things and it's all unique way that makes it both simple and beautiful I think that the fact that they expanded on the parts of gay relationship is a very good step forward as most shows don't do that at least not most animated shows.
It makes me laugh how, if mako was talking to past Zuko on the scene where he says “that’s rough buddy” to sokka, and instead of sokka saying ‘my girlfriend turned into the moon.” Mako says “My two ex-girlfriends started going out with each other”
Zuko- that’s rough buddy 😔😔
Here is an intersting question:
Would the term "Lesbian" exist in the Avatar universe? I ask because in our world, the term "lesbian" is based on a Greek poet who came from Lesbos, which is a Greek island off the coast of Turkey. In the Avatarverse, Lesbos presumably does not exist, nor did the poet Sappho, so it wouldn't make sense for homosexual women in the Avatar universe to be called "lesbians".
I don't think any of our terms for sexuality have been used by the characters. They've said "same-sex relationships."
@@vilmublues752 Fair point. I always wondered that about fictional universes like Avatar for terms that have geographic roots tied to our world like "Lesbian" vs "lesbian". Just one of those details that mean little to the actual story but help build the world.
I loved the video. I am pan and one of my biggest issue's with the whole keep it to your selves thing is that no one tells that to straight people. Many straight couples show there partner how much they love and care for them with very public displays of affection as well as actions and there is nothing wrong with that. But when those same people tell gay bi and lesbian couples that they don't want to see that and should keep it to themselves. To say it is upsetting is a massive understatement. Everyone deserves to show their love for their partner. Showing your feelings and Emotions for one you love so deeply and that loves you the same way is the right of every living person and creature. To tell someone to hide who they are to hide there love or that who they is crime or un natural is simply wrong. Love is what can truly save the world. to try to control manipulate break and corrupt it will alway continue to create a world of pain and sadness. Never be afraid of who you are. ones sexuality is a beautiful thing that should be able to be expressed.
You can’t convince me Kyoshi was anything but “I will date whatever I want”
"lets keep this comment section hate-free"
Hate
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(Disclaimer:No Hate is actually directed,this is just a joke Im sorry If I offended anybody).
why are you sorry?
@@adamreneau9213 probably to avoid drama in the replies, lol
This is ironic, I was just binging a ton of videos on LGBTQ+ representation in cartoons and OSP Pride video and then to see this. Extra fabulous day.
Why…why are there so many homophobes?
Because they find these weird
* Akuudan and Tayagum fizzling out of exsitiance *
dang, kyoshi is all about mUrDEr
I needed this!!
bro really woke up and said " ima make a video explaining gay in avatar"
Ikr what happened to this family friendly and chill channel
@@catholicteenthings still a family friendly and chill channel 😊 do you have a problem with other straight characters getting married? Shouldn’t have a problem for these couples.
@xxRavenawQueenie nothing happened to it, since my second Harry Potter video on this channel (my Dumbledore and Grindelwald love relationship video) I have been making videos supporting the lgbtq+ community. This channel has been this way since the beginning
@@catholicteenthings How is it not family friendly 💀
Being open-minded and loving is family friendly, thank you for your work MovieFlame! 🏳️🌈
You know I wonder how all of the gaang would feel about LGBTQ relationships. I always thought it would go something like this.
Aang: extremely supportive
Sokka: would also be really supportive to the point that you don't get mad when he makes jokes about it.
Katara: would not make a huge deal about it
Toph: straight up wouldn't care
Zuko: would probably think it's a little bit weird at first but eventually accept it.
Uhmmm you sure about the Zuko Toph and Katara part 👹👹👹
I’m happy none of them are that shit
When I was younger the Legend of Korra helped me embrace my sexuality. Being a bisexual myself, it really felt good seeing the main character in a series I loved being together with a male and later down the road developing romantic feelings for a female. I since then came out to my friends and family, including cousin, who got me into Avatar in the first place and she was so supportive and said I was really brave. I have to give credit for the series for helping me for figuring out my sexuality and embracing myself of who I was❤
Thank you for covering this! And being brave enough to put up with the nasty comments.
I really wished they'd delved into Kyoshis storyline more in the show.