I own a 13 M5 super reliable and easy to work on engine.. Had to replace ignition coils and basic maintenance.. I would never sell it.. I love my F10 M5
Mine gets 17.5 miles per gallon. 14’ cp. no mods. Lightning fast shifter. At 40 k miles it’s been bulletproof. Drive train and motor are rock solid. Total quality and attention to detail on the interior. It does lack things like remote start, the lane detection light is in an awful spot on the mirror and some of the electronic features are gimmicky and need more thought. The f10 M5 is a road handling beast with gobs of power and torque. Don’t knock it till you drive one 😉
I like to take a look back at reviews to see where they were right, where they may have been off, and where they flat out lied.. I mention this because I couldnt get passed all the mention of a lack of sound. I guess Auto Journalist are why manufacturers pump faux engine sounds into cars now.... They mention sound, but also mention things like Road noise in their reviews.. Which one is it? Want to hear the exhaust, lower the back seats (If able) and you'll get that added sound. I have an F10 535i with a Dinan Axle Back Exhaust and Resonator delete and the sound in the cabin isnt very noticeable (Which doesnt bother me, especially on roadtrips). When I want to really hear it without opening the Windows, I drop the rear seats and that sound from the Boot adds just enough to make it music to my ears.
Not a knock on you btw i repsect your opinion its always genuine. Anyways its funny thay when the f10 was new theyd all say m division killed it car is sick. Now that f90 is out "o the old car sucked ass". Car journalists are so cute. I dont mind watching it for the images/information on cars but theyre always on repeat. Nothing new or real to say. Just search the vocab find something that applies ans say it. Why not expose car makers for charging to much for this and that why inform people hey its kinda soft but if you wanna fix that go aftermarket with this and that. 90% dont know how to change oil. Another thing is they dont even care to point out specific details about a car certain lines working together with shadows to form other lines etc etc. Someone needs to shed light on the bs. Fucken monkeys apart from chris harris and few other mainstream guys are real. Sick video btw have f10 love it have not run into a faster car on road yet haha. Apart from a friend of a friends 488 gtb but there wasnt much in it.
The turbo's being inside the V may reduce spool time but it also makes things INCREDIBLY difficult to replace, not to mention incredibly expensive. when the turbos fail -and they WILL fail, they're gonna be a nightmare to change... not only labor-wise, but cost-wise as well... interesting to see how all that goes.. hopefully they're more durable than the twins they put on the N54's in the 335i which those turbos died around the 60-80k mile mark...
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Its just what all the magazines use and what I grew up with. Plus, going back and forth between Canada and the US, it's just much less confusing to use lbs, mpg, etc.
Bring back the s85 v10 with this awd and rwd system. Stroke the v10 to 650hp and ppl will pay 200k + any day... I hate how quiet these new cars are no soul.
Agree. I had a 2008 E60 M5 with Eisenmann exhaust and it will always sound better. My F10 I swapped out the downpipes and now the car sounds so much better but still no V10 sound. Overall, the F10 is a much more refined car and I have come to like it better.
@@nochance1519 , thanks for the tip. I have a Dinan muffler order in and hope that will get the sound I am looking for. I haven't heard the RPI in person....
it can do about 30 highway if conditions permit. My mom did a 800 mile trip (all highway) on one tank of gas in her heavier f13 m6. Which is about 38 mpg average considering it has a 21 gallon tank. That's a pretty amazing number for that level of car.
Roads Untraveled Sorry, I don’t have one yet; too expensive own right now. But I do have a 2JZGTE Mk3 Supra Turbo I’m building - all that’s left are intercooler piping, triple fuel pump setup (E85) and engine wiring harness install. My daily is an 06’ G35 Coupe. I would have a BMW M4, if not for my G35 and Supra right now; if you put the two vehicles together (month expenses, mods, etc), you pretty much get an M4.
@@alfworks Short answer is I don't know. When I worked as a Technician for Maximum Auto Search we could buy them remanufactured with a warranty for $3400. I quit working there years ago and the shop sold. If I find out, I'll write it down.
Collab with Adam LZ, he has a nasty 800whp single turbo 335i and his channel has 2 million subs so that collab would be awesome for both of you.. especially you, in the new sub department.
Its just what all the magazines use and what I grew up with. Plus, going back and forth between Canada and the US, it's just much less confusing to use lbs, mpg, etc.
dilsher12 no the f10s are really reliable. Don't know where you heard that. Had mine for 2yrs now and drive the shit out of it. 0 issues other then basic maintenance.
dilsher12 Depends on what you mean. The F10 M5’s are reliable as far as i know, as long as you take care of them as usually. The first and second production year of the normal 520d though, those are absolute shit bags on wheels and i don’t understand how BMW couldn’t recall them. The timing chain tensioner went out almost immediately which resulted in engine getting dusted completely.
I did some research into the f10 M5s seems like they are reliable and owners are quite happy with them . I remember one of the manufacturers having problem with hot V configuration for some reason I thought it was the M5
I’m a bmw tech here in Canada. Those s63 engines are great to drive but a pain in the ass to work on. Freaking disaster. Fucking hate them when they come in with issues.
You shouldn't be comparing this vehicle to the S63 AMG. They are not in the same category - this vehicle goes up against the E63 AMG. Furthermore BMW interiors are nowhere near Mercedes interiors and that's not fanboyism is just plain facts - I own both brands. Keep up the good work!
04srt4champ Wh.. but ho.. Really? Do you even know how the 5 series lineup looks like? Have you seen the E60? Have you seen the E39? Have you seen the E34? I can tell that you don’t know anything about BMW lol. How can you miss an entire brand as a car enthusiast? Even if these kind of cars aren’t your taste (which i understand and respect), you should still know about them.
Same headlights, same taillights, 85% have the same old boring square body shape, same grills. It's just blah even this expensive model, Marcus is reviewing wouldnt make me look twice, if it drove past me. At least as I'm driving my Supra, it looks nothing like any other model from Toyota. Driving this v10 bmw you wouldnt get a 2nd look considering it looks like at least 12 other DIFFERENT models in the beamer line up. Just saying besides having 650 hp in a boat, its BLAH. You know what I'm saying is true when you feel the need to defend this car. Those red seats would get old real fast, and it's basically automatic, really lame. Real drivers cars are sadly not as popular these days.
04srt4champ I’m not a huge fan of the F10 M5 either, i don’t find the looks that impressive. But saying that all BMW’s look the same is just plain trolling and stupid man. I love Supras too, one of the few cars i like that has ”lean” lines. Basically only cars i don’t like is Suzuki Baleno lol. Like what Marcus has said before, the hate in car community is very sad =( I feel sorry for you that you have such hate. Hope you change your mind. Nice Supra though.
J Gripen I wont change my mind, because bmw hasn't come out with anything that looks awesome, or sets itself apart cosmetically, unless you start reaching into supercars territory. same old same old
Too much of a lard ass. Doesn't matter how much power you have. You just can't hide the momentum that amount of mass generates. The laws of physics always apply and at the end of the day lard is the enemy of any performance vehicle.
Ziggy Freud ita lot heavier than m4 yet sets similar lap times (not comp m4). You can hide it lol. Further proved with f90 m5 absolutely killlling the rwd m cars on circuit. Tight small ciecuit and larger ones.
Don't get me wrong SC. I love M cars and still have a tuned e90 M3 but M cars just dont compare to Porsche GT cars. Weight is one of the main factors. There are many others of course. I've had my 2016 RS for a short while and the handling/weight is the biggest thing I notice when comparing it to a 1600kg e9x M3. Same also applies to the M4 whaich I have driven on many occasions. Cheers.
Slushy? Lol other than pdk whays better? Obese ya but its luxury vehicle and as for the gizmos theyre pretty useful some of them. Their M cars are losing it imo but someone that saw the early days of m could say same thing for e92 m3.
You sound crazy man smh bmw was the first since 2008 smh, go do your research before saying stuff, ferarri had it in f1 cars in there 80s and Ford in the 60s but for normal production petrol engine cars it's bmw
I own a 13 M5 super reliable and easy to work on engine.. Had to replace ignition coils and basic maintenance.. I would never sell it.. I love my F10 M5
Mine gets 17.5 miles per gallon. 14’ cp. no mods. Lightning fast shifter. At 40 k miles it’s been bulletproof. Drive train and motor are rock solid. Total quality and attention to detail on the interior. It does lack things like remote start, the lane detection light is in an awful spot on the mirror and some of the electronic features are gimmicky and need more thought. The f10 M5 is a road handling beast with gobs of power and torque. Don’t knock it till you drive one 😉
How long will the DCT last on the f 1 M5, and which other big failures might happen between 40000 miles and 90000 miles?
@@fizywig iv seen here f10 m5´s with more than 160 000 km (100 000miles) on the clock, and nothing wrong with the gearbox... so why would those broke?
fizywig Transmission is very reliable.
no doubt whatsoever the blips on the upshifts and downshifts are the best sounds this car makes
Best car intros ever, ask some car manufacturers if they would like to get a movie / intro for review or money maybe :D
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4.4 0-60? Well MotorTrend got 3.7 on a 2013 so.... ;)
Yeah thats just what BMW says because they rate their cars in the worst condition.
Yeah his tuned competition should no way have a 4 seconds 0-60. My 2016 Dinan S2 gets 3.2
Bmw likes to make there cars seem less impressive
Great video! Only thing to note is that it's impossible to get anything near 30 mpg. 3:00 maybe you ment 23 Max on the highway
Thank you I can baby it and might get 22
Awesome car but only a stripper should have that much glitter.
lol
fozpringle1 nice 😂😂
best comment of the year award. right here sir!
lmfao
fozpringle1 I only come to RUclips for the comments. Lol
I have the base model of this 5 series, for a car its size, its actually pretty light with impressive handling, probably because mine is 4cyl
I like to take a look back at reviews to see where they were right, where they may have been off, and where they flat out lied.. I mention this because I couldnt get passed all the mention of a lack of sound. I guess Auto Journalist are why manufacturers pump faux engine sounds into cars now.... They mention sound, but also mention things like Road noise in their reviews.. Which one is it? Want to hear the exhaust, lower the back seats (If able) and you'll get that added sound. I have an F10 535i with a Dinan Axle Back Exhaust and Resonator delete and the sound in the cabin isnt very noticeable (Which doesnt bother me, especially on roadtrips). When I want to really hear it without opening the Windows, I drop the rear seats and that sound from the Boot adds just enough to make it music to my ears.
Not a knock on you btw i repsect your opinion its always genuine. Anyways its funny thay when the f10 was new theyd all say m division killed it car is sick. Now that f90 is out "o the old car sucked ass". Car journalists are so cute. I dont mind watching it for the images/information on cars but theyre always on repeat. Nothing new or real to say. Just search the vocab find something that applies ans say it. Why not expose car makers for charging to much for this and that why inform people hey its kinda soft but if you wanna fix that go aftermarket with this and that. 90% dont know how to change oil. Another thing is they dont even care to point out specific details about a car certain lines working together with shadows to form other lines etc etc. Someone needs to shed light on the bs. Fucken monkeys apart from chris harris and few other mainstream guys are real. Sick video btw have f10 love it have not run into a faster car on road yet haha. Apart from a friend of a friends 488 gtb but there wasnt much in it.
The turbo's being inside the V may reduce spool time but it also makes things INCREDIBLY difficult to replace, not to mention incredibly expensive. when the turbos fail -and they WILL fail, they're gonna be a nightmare to change... not only labor-wise, but cost-wise as well... interesting to see how all that goes.. hopefully they're more durable than the twins they put on the N54's in the 335i which those turbos died around the 60-80k mile mark...
AWD isnt for fuel economy, it gets worse with it. However, it is for putting down all that power.
No way bro I own this car now 🤣🤣 I can’t believe I found this vid it’s 5 years ago
Beast !
Can you review a E55 AMG?
RAJohnson713 i second that
The paintjob reminds me of kitchen countertops
Needs more subs
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Thatdudeinblue has 900k subs... these guys with this mind fuckin blowing content have about 200k... the world is a one fuckin unfair place...
Ur canadian and ur in Canada why arw you saying gas mileage in MPG and not in l/100km???
Its just what all the magazines use and what I grew up with. Plus, going back and forth between Canada and the US, it's just much less confusing to use lbs, mpg, etc.
I got 7.5L/100km on highway. Normal driving through city is 11ish.
It’s a beautiful car. That matte finish is so nice.
Absolute animal of a car
Bring back the s85 v10 with this awd and rwd system. Stroke the v10 to 650hp and ppl will pay 200k + any day... I hate how quiet these new cars are no soul.
Agree. I had a 2008 E60 M5 with Eisenmann exhaust and it will always sound better. My F10 I swapped out the downpipes and now the car sounds so much better but still no V10 sound. Overall, the F10 is a much more refined car and I have come to like it better.
@@davidhuether7605 RPI exhaust gives it some flavor
@@nochance1519 , thanks for the tip. I have a Dinan muffler order in and hope that will get the sound I am looking for. I haven't heard the RPI in person....
@@davidhuether7605 If you have a look @ the examples running custom x pipes they sound great.
Can barely hear the exhaust compared to the E60 M5...
30 mpg?? This is rated at 22 mpg highway 17 mpg combined, I can't see this ever getting over 25 mpg. At MSRP the S63 is $50k more than the F10 M5.
it can do about 30 highway if conditions permit. My mom did a 800 mile trip (all highway) on one tank of gas in her heavier f13 m6. Which is about 38 mpg average considering it has a 21 gallon tank. That's a pretty amazing number for that level of car.
Mine never got more than 18mpg even on long highway drive on cruise control
Why does it have no competition wheels ??
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I think ford was first to put the turbo in the V with the in house built 6.7 powerstroke in 2011
Nice I wanna see more bmws 🔥🔥
What is the most reliable m5 engine?
These newer cars are no joke !
8:32 Nice shot
When 4300# luxury executive sedan weights less than a hellcat.
Who the hell writes these scripts
I want to buy one of these used my concern is always prior owner, I want one that hasn’t been in a tree, modded and cheaply cared for and abused.
Those m5s are big boys huh
I’m surprised they haven’t done a review on the BMW M4.
If you have one we can drive, we'd love to! 😁 we just haven't come across one yet.
Roads Untraveled Sorry, I don’t have one yet; too expensive own right now.
But I do have a 2JZGTE Mk3 Supra Turbo I’m building - all that’s left are intercooler piping, triple fuel pump setup (E85) and engine wiring harness install.
My daily is an 06’ G35 Coupe. I would have a BMW M4, if not for my G35 and Supra right now; if you put the two vehicles together (month expenses, mods, etc), you pretty much get an M4.
Please do E39 m5
very nice!
Came out amazing!
Is what powerful enough to support the modds? Odd. What the hell does that mean? What is being referenced?.
More like "Can it be driven 30k miles before it smokes the valve guide seals?" . . . What do those engines go for now? $3400 still?
where can you find one for that kind of money? I'd buy one just to have a spare
@@alfworks Short answer is I don't know. When I worked as a Technician for Maximum Auto Search we could buy them remanufactured with a warranty for $3400. I quit working there years ago and the shop sold. If I find out, I'll write it down.
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Review a single turbo n54 please :)
Matt Manley probably difficult to find one that runs properly 😂
EvolutionXHale not really theres hundreds out there
Collab with Adam LZ, he has a nasty 800whp single turbo 335i and his channel has 2 million subs so that collab would be awesome for both of you.. especially you, in the new sub department.
Pretty sure Mercedes Benz had a Hot V setup with their Turbos first. If not with the gasoline engines definitely with the Diesel engines.
Hell no its bmw in 2008 with the n63 engine, smh way way before mercedes
New one 0-60 2.9
12:33 thats what she said
Nice car ..
where was this review before i bought my M!
Also why are you saying it in MPG and not in KM/H
Its just what all the magazines use and what I grew up with. Plus, going back and forth between Canada and the US, it's just much less confusing to use lbs, mpg, etc.
Saw one of these at the BMW workshop the other day , with engine/subframe on the floor . Heard they have a lot of reliability issues
dilsher12 no the f10s are really reliable. Don't know where you heard that. Had mine for 2yrs now and drive the shit out of it. 0 issues other then basic maintenance.
dilsher12 yeah man its BMW what u expect cheap build
Bring more wrenches
dilsher12
Depends on what you mean. The F10 M5’s are reliable as far as i know, as long as you take care of them as usually.
The first and second production year of the normal 520d though, those are absolute shit bags on wheels and i don’t understand how BMW couldn’t recall them. The timing chain tensioner went out almost immediately which resulted in engine getting dusted completely.
I did some research into the f10 M5s seems like they are reliable and owners are quite happy with them . I remember one of the manufacturers having problem with hot V configuration for some reason I thought it was the M5
I've had no issues.
what make of radar detector do u use?
Personally, I use the Valentine One but the radar detector that is seen in the video is the Escort Passport 9500IX I believe.
I’m a bmw tech here in Canada.
Those s63 engines are great to drive but a pain in the ass to work on. Freaking disaster. Fucking hate them when they come in with issues.
You shouldn't be comparing this vehicle to the S63 AMG. They are not in the same category - this vehicle goes up against the E63 AMG. Furthermore BMW interiors are nowhere near Mercedes interiors and that's not fanboyism is just plain facts - I own both brands. Keep up the good work!
puh-lease! benz interior is nowhere near BMW and thats just plain fact!
Any one know what the intro song is?
Lol 30 mpg said no f10 owner ever
I’d take one😂, and I’d lay a big fat kiss on that big sexy elephant!!!
The weight is due to the fact that this car has to be a fuckin tank in crash tests. I would not mind the weiht at all.
Could use moar loud! Great looking family sports car
That is almost 750 bhp.
Hi
U need some downpipes
This guy is just throwing numbers out lol 150k car and it doesn’t have the ceramic brake package so that is a no
0-60 is3.7
everyone drives with steering wheel in comfort och normal. BMW did a total fail on the steering with this car.
New fav channel. Unsubscribes vehicle virgin.
Hey look at that BMW, it looks like every other BMW.
04srt4champ to a non car enthusiast it does
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Wh.. but ho.. Really? Do you even know how the 5 series lineup looks like? Have you seen the E60? Have you seen the E39? Have you seen the E34? I can tell that you don’t know anything about BMW lol. How can you miss an entire brand as a car enthusiast? Even if these kind of cars aren’t your taste (which i understand and respect), you should still know about them.
Same headlights, same taillights, 85% have the same old boring square body shape, same grills. It's just blah even this expensive model, Marcus is reviewing wouldnt make me look twice, if it drove past me. At least as I'm driving my Supra, it looks nothing like any other model from Toyota. Driving this v10 bmw you wouldnt get a 2nd look considering it looks like at least 12 other DIFFERENT models in the beamer line up. Just saying besides having 650 hp in a boat, its BLAH. You know what I'm saying is true when you feel the need to defend this car. Those red seats would get old real fast, and it's basically automatic, really lame. Real drivers cars are sadly not as popular these days.
04srt4champ
I’m not a huge fan of the F10 M5 either, i don’t find the looks that impressive.
But saying that all BMW’s look the same is just plain trolling and stupid man. I love Supras too, one of the few cars i like that has ”lean” lines.
Basically only cars i don’t like is Suzuki Baleno lol.
Like what Marcus has said before, the hate in car community is very sad =(
I feel sorry for you that you have such hate. Hope you change your mind. Nice Supra though.
J Gripen I wont change my mind, because bmw hasn't come out with anything that looks awesome, or sets itself apart cosmetically, unless you start reaching into supercars territory. same old same old
He really sounds scripted. Like a used car salesman. In reality city mpg is 12-14 mpg and freeway 27 best.
Too much of a lard ass. Doesn't matter how much power you have. You just can't hide the momentum that amount of mass generates. The laws of physics always apply and at the end of the day lard is the enemy of any performance vehicle.
Ziggy Freud ita lot heavier than m4 yet sets similar lap times (not comp m4). You can hide it lol. Further proved with f90 m5 absolutely killlling the rwd m cars on circuit. Tight small ciecuit and larger ones.
Don't get me wrong SC. I love M cars and still have a tuned e90 M3 but M cars just dont compare to Porsche GT cars. Weight is one of the main factors. There are many others of course. I've had my 2016 RS for a short while and the handling/weight is the biggest thing I notice when comparing it to a 1600kg e9x M3. Same also applies to the M4 whaich I have driven on many occasions. Cheers.
Ziggy Freud o no doubt cant comapre a butter knife to surgical knife. Seems like every m owner moves on to porshe gt lol.
Cheers. Enjoy whatever you are driving at the moment. Cars are an addiction that needs feeding :)
Ziggy Freud word m5 atm but seem to also follow the trend instictively and want gt3 lol. Perhaps next year or in 2 years.
M5/M6 G power are monsters cars. This is nothing
Great engine!
slushy transmission, morbidly obese chassis, way too many unnecessary gizmos...BMW just doesn't make driver's cars anymore
I definitely wouldn't call the transmission slushy. One of the most responsive dual-clutch autos I've driven hands down
That's like saying O'Douls is one of the tastiest non-alcoholic beers I've drank hands down
And they all look the same
Slushy? Lol other than pdk whays better? Obese ya but its luxury vehicle and as for the gizmos theyre pretty useful some of them. Their M cars are losing it imo but someone that saw the early days of m could say same thing for e92 m3.
Yeah the M5 died with the E39
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That’s not true Audi was the first with the hot V
You sound crazy man smh bmw was the first since 2008 smh, go do your research before saying stuff, ferarri had it in f1 cars in there 80s and Ford in the 60s but for normal production petrol engine cars it's bmw
@@birch4209 the 2002 RS6