While I do feel the ending was rushed, the songs kept me happy for the movie. Anyways when it finished, i realized a few points: 1) Red had the looking glass, aka Bridget "lost" the family heirloom 2) Ella may not have gone to Castecoming (or at least the first one) since she was grounded. Though she might have snuck out since her stepmother might've grounded her for something else in the original timeline 3) Time will probably will messed up due to inconsistencies: -the prank which was a life-changing moment for Bridget -Ella and Charming's first dance, and possibly entire love story -Merlin students could remember Red and Chloe -the rabbit hole would (?) not be sealed -the birth of Chloe and Red (more so Red, cuz Bridget, if "good", then could've married someone else) 4) While Red and Chloe speculated Uliana was behind the prank, it was never truly confirmed. On the basis that Uliana's plan was steal Merlin's book was the same in the original timeline, then her group would've been frozen since their hands are very likely not good. Not to mention Bridget (original mean version), didn't hate Villain's more than the Heroes. She mentioned the Villains went soft, but specifically called out the Heroes (in "Love Ain’t It") were "two faced". Also, Ella and Charming romanticize the same night Bridget hates. So its no wonder Ella wouldn't want her daughter to "dwell on the past" (which is also ironic since Chloe loves history) because something happened that night that definitely changed their friendship. So, a theory would be that Ella could've betrayed Bridget, maybe due to her (past) distaste of royals or that she wanted to be on the "royal" side. There is also the possibility that Ella snuck out, with Fairy Godmother's help, and since she was learning magic at the time could only make it last til 12, abandoned Bridget before the dance and stood on the side while everyone laughed at Bridget due to the prank. A Descendants 5 could be Red and Chloe going back in time again, and putting everything back as in the original timeline. Cuz lets be honest, most time travel movies require them to fix their own mistakes and do something in the present day.
Not necessarily I mean, Cinderella wasn’t even supposed to go to the ball anyway because her stepmom said no that’s why she snuck out with the help of fairy godmother
Had a similar thought that the queen of hearts would have been betrayed by a friend. Most likely Ella because 1. The VKs would have still been spelled and trapped for a long time. And 2. The old Queen of Hearts blamed Cinderella for being too busy with her prince to help her at the dance when she got pranked. However, if the girls (red and Chloe)did change the fabric of time and caused Uliana’s shell necklace to disappear, wouldn’t it have come back as it disappeared once and then later was seen again in the movie being worn by Uliana? And Uma was wearing it at the end of the movie too. So the thought of her controlling Ella is 50/50. Would really like to see the Castlecoming scene. They made such a big deal about it. Was disappointed they didn’t show it.
I was wondering if Cinderella as grounded did she fall in love with Charming at the ball or nah. I imagine that maybe this is how Cinderella's tale begins with a young fairygodmother helping her. Which would be cool.
In the end of the Ruse of Red move, Chloe looked worried, nit weird, because she didn't see her mother right away after returning with Red from the past. As soon as Chloe finds her mother alive and well, Chloe is visibly relieved and happy again. Both Red and Chloe do some learning and griwing during their time in the past. No, I do not believe that either girl will ever become mean in the future Descendants movies.
Maybe balance was thrown out and someone else turned evil in new time line here are other possibilities 1) Or wicked witch and her kid appears. 2) Or maybe ella was tricked into betraying bridget. 3) Or maybe they didn't stay long enough so queen of hearts is still evil just smarter with a bigger plan in mind than simply taking over a school. 4) Or the queen of hearts has become like a doctor jekle mr hyde. 5) Maybe a spell was put on ella which changed how chloe was raised. But if time effected chloe then red would be effected and would no longer be a vk cause she would of been raised differently too. Not sure about this theory 6) maybe villains became good but the heroes became villains.
This may sound weird but what if the queen of hearts had to be bad to protect wonderland from a dangerous threat. It was only because she had everyone fear her that kept the kingdom safe. And since she became nice, that threat will now make itself known. Anyway, that's just my thoughts
I think that uliana is going to be a problem again because if the prank had happened bridget would’ve probably said “OFF WITH HER HEAD” and uliana would’ve died. But she never did so she’s still alive and she might still be out for revenge
My theory is Bridgette has duel Personalities and will always be evil no matter what I believe even though time travel her mom still evil so they go back in time I believe the spell that turned her into a monster actually just made that side more dominant but it was always something Red mom just evil in general time travel or not
Descendants was the best idea Disney ever came up with. R.I.P. Cameron Boyce. His death is the only reason the original cast won’t come back, because they don’t want to continue without him
I also wondered about the Vks being frozen in the original timeline, big plot hole in the movie, it doesn't make sense, and about the Bridget's dress I thought that maybe is because she grew up and maturate.
This movie felt like a build up to something bigger, the plot holes of even if uliana managed to get the book shed be frozen and have detention so how would she do the peank in the first place. I still think it was ella as we saw her getting grounded so probs thats how they fixed her mom. It also wouldnt make sense why rita ora is so much more hostile to those who did nothibg to her
This was also my theory. So glad someone else saw it. Plus it would seem like price charming had something to do with it also which is kinda led to when the girls check the looking glass and queen says to him "not so funny now is it" after she smashes the shoes.
Maybe Cinderella wasn't killed. Maybe she was locked up and tourchered while everyone believed she was dead so no rescue would come. Still dark either way.
Im gonna guess that, they did know it was cursed. As it was probably a well known fact that all of the books that are forbidden are cursed. BUT since Red and Chloe disrupted the timeline and got there first. They waited for red and chloe to defeat the enemies. And then since chloe had the book first and they were fighting over it. They were so distracted with getting it from them that they forgot what the book was gonna do when they opened it
Given the fact the book was going to freeze the VK past anyway I'm not sure what Chloe and Red did to have changed the present. Ella could still be tricked into pranking Bridget i guess. Or spelled. Bridget feels betrayed possiblely by her one and only friend. Especially sense they went back before the dance. The prank could still happen. Unless they accidentally brought back someone. Someone who wouldn't make Uma or mel disappear. With Red been raised differently now she not technically a VK anymore. Ella was grounded so I'm guessing she snuck out which would fit her story of sneaking out to a ball to dance with prince anyway.
I personally wanted the ending to be one of three ways: 1. Before they leave they decide they need to look into bridget's looking glass to see what the future is so they're sure that they fixed it. So they sneak into her room and look into the glass, and see that the future is the same. Then Chloe starts fading (bc if Cinderella is grounded she'll have never fell in love, so Chloe would have never been born). I'm not sure if such would happen to red based on the events but then Bridget wakes up, red looks at the camera, and Uma laughs and says, "Did you think that was the end?" Then that's were the movie ends 2. They decide to stay even though they're sure they fixed the future, just to see castlecoming. Then they go and see that someone else pulls a much worse prank...(I think Ella). The end! Then sinister laughs. There was some background knowledge with the necklace and the book I believe, and I there is a theory that Ella dressed up as uylana using the necklaces powers. 3. I'll come back and write this later!
I def thought that Ella was gonna be the one to pull the prank because she says she’ll do anything if it meant saving her loved ones or a life so maybe she didn’t want to do it but had to in order to someone. It feels a bit underwhelming or undeserved that her mom is “magically” good now. Like she didn’t learn a lesson or anything at all.
@@lucyheartfilia9077 for real! but I also think that when the vase got broke in her house, the whole timeline got changed. Bc in the original timeline, it never got broken. And also, if the book is cursed, how did they pull the prank years ago...
not necessarily, because Cinderella wasn’t supposed to go to the dance anyway because her stepmom said no, that’s why she snuck out with the help of the fairy godmother.
@@thelegend_jlz I was thinking abt that too! What I think tho is that the movie isn't the exact same as the fairytales. Unless the rest of her family got invited to a teenage prom/ball, I think she would have been able to go (w/ or w/out the fairy godmother's help). But lmk ur thoughts!
I think this movie was a lot of fun to watch and it felt so good to jump back into the world of Descendants after so many years. Seeing China and Melly returning to their roles definitely brought back some of the magic we've been missing. I especially enjoyed the special tribute to Cameron Boyce/Carlos and it was the sweet moment we needed. Although, I personally don't believe that Disney would consider killing off his character since Cam is no longer with us. Apparently some of the fandom seems to be jumping to that conclusion so quickly and I find that completely ridiculous. Just because the actor passed away doesn't mean the same could be said for the character, so I believe that Carlos is being a Veterinarian like he said in D3 but he's doing that off screen. This would be a good way to keep his character alive in-universe while paying respect to Cam himself cause he cared about the franchise as much as we did. That's just my personal theory about the situation and I applaud Disney for at least working around it for the movie. I will say that the ending of the movie was very perplexing after my first viewing. It seemed very abrupt to some of us for sure, but after giving some thought I think they did it for a reason. Plus I do agree with your theory about Red and Chloe probably traveling back to the past again in the next movie and I also want build up on that. So now that Queen of Hearts is good this should be a happy ending, something does feel off about it. Of course, we didn't see Castlecoming or the prank pulled on Bridget and we should remember that Ella didn't go to the dance since she got grounded by Lady Tremaine. So I have a feeling that maybe they'll pull a switch on Cinderella and make her evil so that Red and Chloe need to go back fix the branch in the timeline. I swear this would be the craziest thing to happen if that's the case. So of course, this definitely left the door open for a D5 to happen and what a lot of fans don't know about is while the film airs on Aug. 9th for Disney Channel, that's the same day when the D23 Expo starts. So perhaps if the cast attends the event then maybe this will be a way to give the confirmation about a Descendants 5 and maybe a Descendants 6 if we're lucky. I'm definitely keeping my fingers crossed for that. Man just talking about this makes me want to breakdown the movie myself and I probably will if I find the time at some point.
Initially I thought the ending felt off but I do think it’s because it’s the illusion of a happy ending and not a true happy ending. And I also noticed that QOH’s dress is not completely white which makes me think that is she still evil and not fully good?
No, because remember, in the books and movies Cinderella wasn’t even supposed to go to the dance anyway because her stepmom said no, that’s why what the help of the fairy godmother she snuck out
Yeah I feel like the ending was a little too easy to be considered true. In other words, it's a little too good to be true. I do think something has to be up and I hope another story will happen that will explain it and I hope Rita Ora, Brandy and Paolo all come back for it!
I am getting the impression (having just watched the movie) that this is not the end of this story. There wasn't a big climax fight. I DID appreciate the beautiful tribute that Uma made for Carlos. It was beautiful and absolutely what he would want. I think he would have liked Red. She's a very intriguing character.
THANK U, i sworee the movie kept building up that ella played the prank on bridget but sense we were never showed the prank in effect( we only saw what would happen) we dont know what ella actually did.
@@ysraelmelchizedekcomendado9152 it must have been Ulliana she can grant wishes remember little mermaid the necklace actually wait voices could it be Ulliana actually took the red Queen's voice and everything she says and does has been Ullianas will maybe Bridgette gave up her soul to Ulliana for Cinderella to be with charming
Also if hades and maleficent r permanently frozen that means Mal would’ve never been born and if Hook is forever frozen Harry would’ve never been born. So that in itself changes the whole story.
The Sorcerer's Cookbook had a protection spell cast on it to stop anyone who was evil from opening it, so if they were sent to the Isle of the Lost after that, the spell would have worn off. Descendants 1 proves that when it shows Maleficent walking around, the same with Hades in Descendants 3.
I keep thinking theres a reason why we met kid yula not kid ursala. Like yula might of traveled with them to the future or adult yula and her kid will appear.
I saw many theories about the movie,except one. About Maddox. I don't trust on him.Why he give a powerful pocketwatch to a teenager that hate your own mom? There are more about him...
Why yall questioning it lol he not adopted if you watch the Brandy movie where she Cinderella Prince charming, is Filipino his mom is black. His dad is white in the movie. We didn’t question it back then. 😂
i think ella pulled the prank because she was jelouse of briget since at the begining of the movie the queen of hearts said ella did nothing when she got pranked
My theory is that when Chloe broke the vase Ella's whole life changed and what I mean is in the original timeline, that vase never gets broken because no one comes to Ella's home but in this new timeline the vase get broken changing everything so maybe somewhere down the line in highschool Ella turns evil, and I don't know if it's just me but when red and Chloe came back and red went to Bridget why didn't Ella go see Chloe like she waited for Chloe to come to her and then she gives Chloe that creepy smile so yeah that's my theory
I don’t think so, because remember, even in the book and cartoon she wasn’t even supposed to go to the dance anyway, that’s why she snuck out with the help with the fairy godmother
Uliana, not Yuliana, Kylie Cantrall, not Cantrell, and Red took The Pocketwatch from Maddox's pocket while she was hugging him, he didn't give it to her
It's a kid's movie- your thinking way too much into it. Yuli was humiliated instead of Bridget, after Red and Chloe messed with the past (Yuli had the flamingo incident with no revenge for it- therefore Bridget won). The past altered the future to where Umma made her way as Principal to avenge her auntie, which is altered reason as to why she invited Red and the Queen of Hearts to Auradon.
My theory is that because red and Chloe were there it was a bit of a rush to open the book so they all looked at it at once if the vks had more time uliana probably made someone else look first to check if it was dangerous also remember how ima is ulianas niece and would be mad at Bridget for what she did to her aunt as in this universe uliana never got even so uma might want revenge on Beidget
Maddox didn't give Red the Pocket Watch, he said she was too young to understand how it worked and she took it from him when she hugged him before leaving. In her mind, it was the only way for her to save/stop her mother from making a coup.
Everyone says about how they wished they seen the prank or dance scene, but they forget about the vks getting basically detention or whatever sooo 🤷♂️
Sequel After the film's release, Suzanne Todd confirmed that Disney is "definitely working on and thinking about a follow-up movie," saying that after the end of The Rise of Red and the consequences of time travel, in the sequel "there will be future good and evil turns for sure."
I’ve watched the rise of red three times in a row and I actually like it because the person who plays Juliana is a very good actress and the person who plays red is very well played as well so I would say a fifth installment would be great
I’m thinking Uliana puts someone up to it and there’s a few suspects that Uliana might use. The obvious one being Ella, but I don’t think Ella wouldn’t do that to her friend. It could be Ella’s stepsisters they aren’t necessarily evil and could open the book and blame Ella for the prank making Ella look bad and ruining their relationship. It could also be Morgie. Morgie isn’t necessarily evil in retrospect but is hanging out with the VKs to fit in with them and does this prank to make Uliana proud and to prove himself worthy to be in her clique.
I think that they changed chloe a bit because Ella said to Bridget we will go to the dance as friends and that means Bridget didn’t turn up ( because of the prank ) so Prince Charming and Ella had there first dance so they got married but when Bridget and Ella went to the dance Prince Charming and Ella didn’t have there first dance so they never got married!! Who agrees!?👇🏼👇🏼❤
@@kimberlytunkel4567not to mention, magic didn’t work on the Isle of the Lost, so they would’ve at least been unfrozen by the time Beauty and the Beast got married and established the United States of Auradon.
Do you know the queen of hearts in the end red and white dress she's not half evil it's I think it's because red and white make pink so basically she's fully briget my Theory
Ok idk y I think Prince charming may have married Queen of hearts instead of Cinderella and probably instead of Chad we may see red's sibling cause technically cinderella got grounded bcz of chloe so she never maybe made it to the dance but Bridget did and what if you know...... Plus if u look closely to Bridget's necklace at the end it has blue in the middle sooooooo
@malrulesall9669 thanks but ngl if it does go in that direction honestly it's kinda interesting that way red will feel the love of family it's all she ever wanted
@@ariaasuna3644 you’re welcome and that’s true but what do you think will happen to Chloe tho if charming marries the queen of hearts instead of Cinderella?
@@malrulesall9669 honestly if we ever learn anything from time travel if something is removed or changed in the past it might not be there in the future so maybe very much maybe chloe may start to disappear slowly but surely or there might time gate keepers they might come to arrest them to fix the time line not sure tho so let's take this as hypothetical
I did because my mum watched it and she thought I was like Bridget, which I am really happy about the fact that she turned nice to evil then it’s kind of disturbing
Yea but your missing piece if uliana didn't get away with then she could turn out the way the Queen of hearts was at the beginning so that means mal and uma turned out different
Bro it’s so much that can happen in this next movie I feel like uma is going to have to travel back in time with red and Chloe at some point in the next movie. You made a lot of great points especially with that dizzy clip i forgot uma’s necklace could do that so uliana might have transferred herself over to the dude who they told to wait outside I forgot his name and still gotten into the cook book. Or if they did get unfrozen but put into detention the dude that was waiting outside being on look out duty he could have broken in snuck them out of detention they get the cook and they still go through with the prank.
Remember: all forms of magic, across various media (comics, movies, TV shows etc.), ALWAYS comes at a price.. How big or small that cost is depends on the type of magic used..
It does not ALWAYS come at a price. Someone said that one day because they thought it sounded clever, and people jumped on that bandwagon. No writer is honored bound to do that.
What if in descendants five since ulyana didnt get her revenge her daughter 1. Steals the time machine and stops red and chloe from changing the past Or 2. Gets revenge on red and chloe in honor of her mom(ulyana)
Yes, the movie was good. But they should have stopped at Descendants three. Having grown up with original cast, they were well loved, and this is a movie that shouldn't have been made. They ended it quite well with Mal and Ben’s wedding.
About maybe Chloe turning evil because the change time travel sounds interesting 🤔, reminds me a interview with Malia and kylie ask about what they expect of the next movie and Malia say she likes to explore VK Chloe Malia like see evil Chloe, so, really hope this theory can happen 😅😅😅😅
I am like Bridget and I’m subscribed and like
Same. I want to hand out treats so badly.
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I love you Bridget
l love brighet and Elia they are sweetest as always pace of Candy 🍬 sweet Harts
It's actually ulyana actually and I kinda like how they have a tribute to Carlos in the beginning we all miss him 😭❤️💔
What's ulyana?
@@bestianegra3725her name
It's actually Uliana
@@thelegend_jlzThats sick😮 i didn't know that!😮
I thought something was off… because Uma’s hair is short at the beginning but at the end it was long. I think Ulianna did something to Uma.
While I do feel the ending was rushed, the songs kept me happy for the movie. Anyways when it finished, i realized a few points:
1) Red had the looking glass, aka Bridget "lost" the family heirloom
2) Ella may not have gone to Castecoming (or at least the first one) since she was grounded. Though she might have snuck out since her stepmother might've grounded her for something else in the original timeline
3) Time will probably will messed up due to inconsistencies:
-the prank which was a life-changing moment for Bridget
-Ella and Charming's first dance, and possibly entire love story
-Merlin students could remember Red and Chloe
-the rabbit hole would (?) not be sealed
-the birth of Chloe and Red (more so Red, cuz Bridget, if "good", then could've married someone else)
4) While Red and Chloe speculated Uliana was behind the prank, it was never truly confirmed. On the basis that Uliana's plan was steal Merlin's book was the same in the original timeline, then her group would've been frozen since their hands are very likely not good. Not to mention Bridget (original mean version), didn't hate Villain's more than the Heroes. She mentioned the Villains went soft, but specifically called out the Heroes (in "Love Ain’t It") were "two faced".
Also, Ella and Charming romanticize the same night Bridget hates. So its no wonder Ella wouldn't want her daughter to "dwell on the past" (which is also ironic since Chloe loves history) because something happened that night that definitely changed their friendship.
So, a theory would be that Ella could've betrayed Bridget, maybe due to her (past) distaste of royals or that she wanted to be on the "royal" side. There is also the possibility that Ella snuck out, with Fairy Godmother's help, and since she was learning magic at the time could only make it last til 12, abandoned Bridget before the dance and stood on the side while everyone laughed at Bridget due to the prank.
A Descendants 5 could be Red and Chloe going back in time again, and putting everything back as in the original timeline. Cuz lets be honest, most time travel movies require them to fix their own mistakes and do something in the present day.
Whoa 😮
This was exactly what I was thinking after I was done watching the movies. Nothing made sense
Not necessarily I mean, Cinderella wasn’t even supposed to go to the ball anyway because her stepmom said no that’s why she snuck out with the help of fairy godmother
@@thelegend_jlzbut what if in the original timeline she never got grounded cause chloe was never there to cause it
Had a similar thought that the queen of hearts would have been betrayed by a friend. Most likely Ella because 1. The VKs would have still been spelled and trapped for a long time. And 2. The old Queen of Hearts blamed Cinderella for being too busy with her prince to help her at the dance when she got pranked.
However, if the girls (red and Chloe)did change the fabric of time and caused Uliana’s shell necklace to disappear, wouldn’t it have come back as it disappeared once and then later was seen again in the movie being worn by Uliana? And Uma was wearing it at the end of the movie too. So the thought of her controlling Ella is 50/50.
Would really like to see the Castlecoming scene. They made such a big deal about it. Was disappointed they didn’t show it.
I was wondering if Cinderella as grounded did she fall in love with Charming at the ball or nah.
I imagine that maybe this is how Cinderella's tale begins with a young fairygodmother helping her. Which would be cool.
I did feel like the film ended a bit too quickly and had a feeling there was something going off with Ella throughout
Exactly
@@hannahsargisson7226 who is your profile picture
In the end of the Ruse of Red move, Chloe looked worried, nit weird, because she didn't see her mother right away after returning with Red from the past. As soon as Chloe finds her mother alive and well, Chloe is visibly relieved and happy again. Both Red and Chloe do some learning and griwing during their time in the past. No, I do not believe that either girl will ever become mean in the future Descendants movies.
I thought Ella would be the one to pull the prank since Red said that “she knew Bridget’s weaknesses and exactly how to stab her in the back”.
Great idea
I thought the ending was too easy and simple 😎 cant wait to see the next part.
Maybe balance was thrown out and someone else turned evil in new time line here are other possibilities
1) Or wicked witch and her kid appears.
2) Or maybe ella was tricked into betraying bridget.
3) Or maybe they didn't stay long enough so queen of hearts is still evil just smarter with a bigger plan in mind than simply taking over a school.
4) Or the queen of hearts has become like a doctor jekle mr hyde.
5) Maybe a spell was put on ella which changed how chloe was raised. But if time effected chloe then red would be effected and would no longer be a vk cause she would of been raised differently too. Not sure about this theory
6) maybe villains became good but the heroes became villains.
You could tell that when uma looked at the picture of Carlos and cried they were real tears
This may sound weird but what if the queen of hearts had to be bad to protect wonderland from a dangerous threat. It was only because she had everyone fear her that kept the kingdom safe. And since she became nice, that threat will now make itself known. Anyway, that's just my thoughts
I think that uliana is going to be a problem again because if the prank had happened bridget would’ve probably said “OFF WITH HER HEAD” and uliana would’ve died. But she never did so she’s still alive and she might still be out for revenge
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My theory is Bridgette has duel Personalities and will always be evil no matter what I believe even though time travel her mom still evil so they go back in time I believe the spell that turned her into a monster actually just made that side more dominant but it was always something Red mom just evil in general time travel or not
Descendants was the best idea Disney ever came up with. R.I.P. Cameron Boyce. His death is the only reason the original cast won’t come back, because they don’t want to continue without him
I also wondered about the Vks being frozen in the original timeline, big plot hole in the movie, it doesn't make sense, and about the Bridget's dress I thought that maybe is because she grew up and maturate.
This movie felt like a build up to something bigger, the plot holes of even if uliana managed to get the book shed be frozen and have detention so how would she do the peank in the first place. I still think it was ella as we saw her getting grounded so probs thats how they fixed her mom. It also wouldnt make sense why rita ora is so much more hostile to those who did nothibg to her
This was also my theory. So glad someone else saw it. Plus it would seem like price charming had something to do with it also which is kinda led to when the girls check the looking glass and queen says to him "not so funny now is it" after she smashes the shoes.
Umas cry was really that was a really cry R.I.P Cameron Boyce
Maybe Cinderella wasn't killed. Maybe she was locked up and tourchered while everyone believed she was dead so no rescue would come. Still dark either way.
What I’m confused about is if the vks used that book to prank Bridget but it freezes them when they open it how did they prank her in the first place
That’s what I’m saying
I thought they were gonna being that up and it was gonna be like Cinderella had something to do with the prank
@@orisoapperson8608 ye
Im gonna guess that, they did know it was cursed. As it was probably a well known fact that all of the books that are forbidden are cursed. BUT since Red and Chloe disrupted the timeline and got there first. They waited for red and chloe to defeat the enemies. And then since chloe had the book first and they were fighting over it. They were so distracted with getting it from them that they forgot what the book was gonna do when they opened it
Basically they were so busy fighting for it they forgot it was cursed and were so excited when they handed it over
@@bambamshawamm that’s a good point
Given the fact the book was going to freeze the VK past anyway I'm not sure what Chloe and Red did to have changed the present.
Ella could still be tricked into pranking Bridget i guess. Or spelled. Bridget feels betrayed possiblely by her one and only friend.
Especially sense they went back before the dance. The prank could still happen.
Unless they accidentally brought back someone. Someone who wouldn't make Uma or mel disappear.
With Red been raised differently now she not technically a VK anymore. Ella was grounded so I'm guessing she snuck out which would fit her story of sneaking out to a ball to dance with prince anyway.
2054: descendants 54: “don’t you think the story is gone, don’t you?”
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I personally wanted the ending to be one of three ways:
1. Before they leave they decide they need to look into bridget's looking glass to see what the future is so they're sure that they fixed it. So they sneak into her room and look into the glass, and see that the future is the same. Then Chloe starts fading (bc if Cinderella is grounded she'll have never fell in love, so Chloe would have never been born). I'm not sure if such would happen to red based on the events but then Bridget wakes up, red looks at the camera, and Uma laughs and says, "Did you think that was the end?" Then that's were the movie ends
2. They decide to stay even though they're sure they fixed the future, just to see castlecoming. Then they go and see that someone else pulls a much worse prank...(I think Ella). The end! Then sinister laughs. There was some background knowledge with the necklace and the book I believe, and I there is a theory that Ella dressed up as uylana using the necklaces powers.
3. I'll come back and write this later!
My auto correct was acting up and I can't edit my comment on this device lol. So sorry abt some of the grammer
I def thought that Ella was gonna be the one to pull the prank because she says she’ll do anything if it meant saving her loved ones or a life so maybe she didn’t want to do it but had to in order to someone. It feels a bit underwhelming or undeserved that her mom is “magically” good now. Like she didn’t learn a lesson or anything at all.
@@lucyheartfilia9077 for real! but I also think that when the vase got broke in her house, the whole timeline got changed. Bc in the original timeline, it never got broken. And also, if the book is cursed, how did they pull the prank years ago...
not necessarily, because Cinderella wasn’t supposed to go to the dance anyway because her stepmom said no, that’s why she snuck out with the help of the fairy godmother.
@@thelegend_jlz I was thinking abt that too! What I think tho is that the movie isn't the exact same as the fairytales. Unless the rest of her family got invited to a teenage prom/ball, I think she would have been able to go (w/ or w/out the fairy godmother's help). But lmk ur thoughts!
I think this movie was a lot of fun to watch and it felt so good to jump back into the world of Descendants after so many years. Seeing China and Melly returning to their roles definitely brought back some of the magic we've been missing. I especially enjoyed the special tribute to Cameron Boyce/Carlos and it was the sweet moment we needed. Although, I personally don't believe that Disney would consider killing off his character since Cam is no longer with us.
Apparently some of the fandom seems to be jumping to that conclusion so quickly and I find that completely ridiculous. Just because the actor passed away doesn't mean the same could be said for the character, so I believe that Carlos is being a Veterinarian like he said in D3 but he's doing that off screen. This would be a good way to keep his character alive in-universe while paying respect to Cam himself cause he cared about the franchise as much as we did. That's just my personal theory about the situation and I applaud Disney for at least working around it for the movie.
I will say that the ending of the movie was very perplexing after my first viewing. It seemed very abrupt to some of us for sure, but after giving some thought I think they did it for a reason. Plus I do agree with your theory about Red and Chloe probably traveling back to the past again in the next movie and I also want build up on that. So now that Queen of Hearts is good this should be a happy ending, something does feel off about it. Of course, we didn't see Castlecoming or the prank pulled on Bridget and we should remember that Ella didn't go to the dance since she got grounded by Lady Tremaine. So I have a feeling that maybe they'll pull a switch on Cinderella and make her evil so that Red and Chloe need to go back fix the branch in the timeline. I swear this would be the craziest thing to happen if that's the case.
So of course, this definitely left the door open for a D5 to happen and what a lot of fans don't know about is while the film airs on Aug. 9th for Disney Channel, that's the same day when the D23 Expo starts. So perhaps if the cast attends the event then maybe this will be a way to give the confirmation about a Descendants 5 and maybe a Descendants 6 if we're lucky. I'm definitely keeping my fingers crossed for that. Man just talking about this makes me want to breakdown the movie myself and I probably will if I find the time at some point.
Initially I thought the ending felt off but I do think it’s because it’s the illusion of a happy ending and not a true happy ending. And I also noticed that QOH’s dress is not completely white which makes me think that is she still evil and not fully good?
No, because remember, in the books and movies Cinderella wasn’t even supposed to go to the dance anyway because her stepmom said no, that’s why what the help of the fairy godmother she snuck out
I feel so bad for Carlos rest in peace Carlos
I feel like we all cried at the start when we saw the honor of Carlos:(
I did cried 😢
I didn’t cry but I really miss him
I was so hoping they would show the big dance so hopefully they do it in the sequel ❤
Yeah I feel like the ending was a little too easy to be considered true. In other words, it's a little too good to be true. I do think something has to be up and I hope another story will happen that will explain it and I hope Rita Ora, Brandy and Paolo all come back for it!
I’m still confused- none of it really made sense and the movie kinda felt like it was going pretty fast
I am getting the impression (having just watched the movie) that this is not the end of this story. There wasn't a big climax fight. I DID appreciate the beautiful tribute that Uma made for Carlos. It was beautiful and absolutely what he would want. I think he would have liked Red. She's a very intriguing character.
it still feels rushed in the end
@@athenasky8178 Fr
@@CeltycSparrow definitely
There’s seriously more to the story, cause I’m so curious why q of hearts hates Ella, was it uliana disguised as Ella?
THANK U, i sworee the movie kept building up that ella played the prank on bridget but sense we were never showed the prank in effect( we only saw what would happen) we dont know what ella actually did.
I was ready for the queen to still be evil, but I saw that there was 5 minutes left of the movie, and I felt disappointed
No Ulliana granted Ella wish to end up with prince and used her to open book but she was grounded
But the fairy god mother??
@@ysraelmelchizedekcomendado9152 it must have been Ulliana she can grant wishes remember little mermaid the necklace actually wait voices could it be Ulliana actually took the red Queen's voice and everything she says and does has been Ullianas will maybe Bridgette gave up her soul to Ulliana for Cinderella to be with charming
Why is hades when he was in merylin high school so HOTT?!!! And HANDSOME?????😭❤️
Greek God charm
Great wow I love descendants 4 watching it
Also if hades and maleficent r permanently frozen that means Mal would’ve never been born and if Hook is forever frozen Harry would’ve never been born. So that in itself changes the whole story.
Maybe someone unfroze them
The Sorcerer's Cookbook had a protection spell cast on it to stop anyone who was evil from opening it, so if they were sent to the Isle of the Lost after that, the spell would have worn off. Descendants 1 proves that when it shows Maleficent walking around, the same with Hades in Descendants 3.
I keep thinking theres a reason why we met kid yula not kid ursala. Like yula might of traveled with them to the future or adult yula and her kid will appear.
I saw many theories about the movie,except one.
About Maddox.
I don't trust on him.Why he give a powerful pocketwatch to a teenager that hate your own mom?
There are more about him...
Technically he took it back and said wait. She pickpocketed it from him. But he is still super suspicious
Chad the only one with blonde in his family
he may be adopted
Why does Chad Charming look nothing like his parents, but Chloe does? Is he adopted?
Why yall questioning it lol he not adopted if you watch the Brandy movie where she Cinderella Prince charming, is Filipino his mom is black. His dad is white in the movie. We didn’t question it back then. 😂
Neither Cinderella and Prince Charming have blonde hair and they aren't white tho-
In this movie at least
It's a made-up world. Things don't always need to make scenes... stop thinking so hard!!
i think ella pulled the prank because she was jelouse of briget since at the begining of the movie the queen of hearts said ella did nothing when she got pranked
My theory is that when Chloe broke the vase Ella's whole life changed and what I mean is in the original timeline, that vase never gets broken because no one comes to Ella's home but in this new timeline the vase get broken changing everything so maybe somewhere down the line in highschool Ella turns evil, and I don't know if it's just me but when red and Chloe came back and red went to Bridget why didn't Ella go see Chloe like she waited for Chloe to come to her and then she gives Chloe that creepy smile so yeah that's my theory
I don’t think so, because remember, even in the book and cartoon she wasn’t even supposed to go to the dance anyway, that’s why she snuck out with the help with the fairy godmother
I can't believe that they got brandy and proble to come and repispe their roles as Cinderella and the king😊
I need uma and uliana to have a scene together🤭🤭
i want to see Uliana disguise as Ella in Descendants 5
Uliana, not Yuliana, Kylie Cantrall, not Cantrell, and Red took The Pocketwatch from Maddox's pocket while she was hugging him, he didn't give it to her
It's not that deep, also it might have just been some mistakes :/
@@AshSnowZI really like it Descendants 4 was really epic and next descendants 5 wait for waiting for the announcement of Descendants 5
@@AshSnowZI really like Descendants 4 I'll be ready for the next descendants 5
its uliana also prob like red
edit: ty for the heart
I was thinking the same thing that uliana and her gang would have been frozen either way. And that someone else was responsible.
Mee too
It's a kid's movie- your thinking way too much into it. Yuli was humiliated instead of Bridget, after Red and Chloe messed with the past (Yuli had the flamingo incident with no revenge for it- therefore Bridget won). The past altered the future to where Umma made her way as Principal to avenge her auntie, which is altered reason as to why she invited Red and the Queen of Hearts to Auradon.
I dont think Uma has been changed at all, since after all, she was evil turned good
Just because it's a kid's movie, it doesn't mean that it can't be deep.
My theory is that because red and Chloe were there it was a bit of a rush to open the book so they all looked at it at once if the vks had more time uliana probably made someone else look first to check if it was dangerous also remember how ima is ulianas niece and would be mad at Bridget for what she did to her aunt as in this universe uliana never got even so uma might want revenge on Beidget
Maddox didn't give Red the Pocket Watch, he said she was too young to understand how it worked and she took it from him when she hugged him before leaving. In her mind, it was the only way for her to save/stop her mother from making a coup.
1:44 rip Camron Boyce 🪦 🥀
rip❤
when uma said its what carlos would have wanted it
I ENJOYED THE MOVIE SOO MUUCCH I LIKED BRIDGET AND ALL CHARACTERS
I hope descendents 5 will have the Cheshire cat being like confusing and still the same
I Like how the the piano music sounds like night falls ngl
exactly
Same
Everyone says about how they wished they seen the prank or dance scene, but they forget about the vks getting basically detention or whatever sooo 🤷♂️
The truth is that I miss the original cast but also I love the rise of red
There’s no way their parents didn’t recognise them after seeing them in the past.❤
Ikr that might have some trouble in the next film
The very very good movie my favorite descendants movie
THE ACTRESS PLAYING JANE WAS HIS GIRLFRIEND IN REAL LIFE😢❤💕🎉 3:03
Wait what?
When she said that wasn’t the end of the story, my stomach dropped
Sequel
After the film's release, Suzanne Todd confirmed that Disney is "definitely working on and thinking about a follow-up movie," saying that after the end of The Rise of Red and the consequences of time travel, in the sequel "there will be future good and evil turns for sure."
R.I.P Cameron boyce we will all still love you 🥺😢😭
8:55 i thought she was having a nightmare with a premonition that Uma will get revenge or something 🤔
Merlin Achademy = Hogwart???🤣🤣
I’ve watched the rise of red three times in a row and I actually like it because the person who plays Juliana is a very good actress and the person who plays red is very well played as well so I would say a fifth installment would be great
Hades here from the fiery depths
Ok one question if the book is enchanted so it can't fall in the wrong hands how did they do the prank years ago
OMG 😱 I wasn‘t thinking about it but it‘s a really good question
Now I'm confused tbh
Probably made Ella open it and that's why Queen Of Hearts hate Cinderella so much
I’m thinking Uliana puts someone up to it and there’s a few suspects that Uliana might use. The obvious one being Ella, but I don’t think Ella wouldn’t do that to her friend. It could be Ella’s stepsisters they aren’t necessarily evil and could open the book and blame Ella for the prank making Ella look bad and ruining their relationship. It could also be Morgie. Morgie isn’t necessarily evil in retrospect but is hanging out with the VKs to fit in with them and does this prank to make Uliana proud and to prove himself worthy to be in her clique.
Oh my God I said the same thing
Sharp as a thorn I’m malificent
Hades here from the fiery depths
Now for the hottest, the Goddess of darkness, here she comes, uliana!
@@BisexualAmbivert
I'm not your every day villain
@@arions15days I'm taking souls for a living
I thought it was off. It looks like Ulianna at the end not Uma.
I think that they changed chloe a bit because Ella said to Bridget we will go to the dance as friends and that means Bridget didn’t turn up ( because of the prank ) so Prince Charming and Ella had there first dance so they got married but when Bridget and Ella went to the dance Prince Charming and Ella didn’t have there first dance so they never got married!!
Who agrees!?👇🏼👇🏼❤
I feel like mal would have never been born she doesn’t exist now bc maleficent and hades are frozen in time
Their was no reason for Maleficent and Hades to be in this but you make so much sense
I think the frozen in time spell is temporary and that Merlin unfreezes them when he gets back so he can give them detention.
@@kimberlytunkel4567not to mention, magic didn’t work on the Isle of the Lost, so they would’ve at least been unfrozen by the time Beauty and the Beast got married and established the United States of Auradon.
It's a temporary freeze spell
So long Carlos Di Vill😞🌹
I miss Carlos too 😭❤💔
Anybody noticed …. UMAS necklace is the same as ulyanas
Yes!! At the beginning Uma had no necklace. Something happened to UMA.
@aspieangel1988 she does have it..
Do you know the queen of hearts in the end red and white dress she's not half evil it's I think it's because red and white make pink so basically she's fully briget my Theory
Maddax hatter sounds like mad ass hatter
I already had that theory right when the movie came out and I watched it 😂❤
Ok idk y I think Prince charming may have married Queen of hearts instead of Cinderella and probably instead of Chad we may see red's sibling cause technically cinderella got grounded bcz of chloe so she never maybe made it to the dance but Bridget did and what if you know......
Plus if u look closely to Bridget's necklace at the end it has blue in the middle sooooooo
Ooooo that’s a good point I forgot Cinderella/Ella got grounded.
@malrulesall9669 thanks but ngl if it does go in that direction honestly it's kinda interesting that way red will feel the love of family it's all she ever wanted
@@ariaasuna3644 you’re welcome and that’s true but what do you think will happen to Chloe tho if charming marries the queen of hearts instead of Cinderella?
@@malrulesall9669 honestly if we ever learn anything from time travel if something is removed or changed in the past it might not be there in the future so maybe very much maybe chloe may start to disappear slowly but surely or there might time gate keepers they might come to arrest them to fix the time line not sure tho so let's take this as hypothetical
@@ariaasuna3644 good point and yeah you’re right about that cause these are just theories after all
I HATE THE FACT BRANDY AIN'T GET TO SING LONGER I DON'T EVEN KNOW RITA
I did because my mum watched it and she thought I was like Bridget, which I am really happy about the fact that she turned nice to evil then it’s kind of disturbing
1:17 she put the laughing 😆 when she said crying
I love the night falls instrumental
R I P
Carlos
Yea but your missing piece if uliana didn't get away with then she could turn out the way the Queen of hearts was at the beginning so that means mal and uma turned out different
I miss carlos
I’m so sad Cinderella was killed😢😢😢 5:09
rip Carlos. 2015 to 2029. I am so heartbroken💔💔😭😭😭
Do u mean 2015 to 2019
Yes
@@angelicacastaneda7870no its 1999-2019
1999-2019
Yep, I love it. I love that so much I don’t know Ethan Ethan how much and how many times I watched it.
Bro it’s so much that can happen in this next movie I feel like uma is going to have to travel back in time with red and Chloe at some point in the next movie. You made a lot of great points especially with that dizzy clip i forgot uma’s necklace could do that so uliana might have transferred herself over to the dude who they told to wait outside I forgot his name and still gotten into the cook book. Or if they did get unfrozen but put into detention the dude that was waiting outside being on look out duty he could have broken in snuck them out of detention they get the cook and they still go through with the prank.
Maddox didn’t give Red the pocket watch she stole it. Also Chloe held on to red and accidentally went with her
we love you camron
Am I the only one singing the song playing in the background word for word
Remember: all forms of magic, across various media (comics, movies, TV shows etc.), ALWAYS comes at a price.. How big or small that cost is depends on the type of magic used..
It does not ALWAYS come at a price. Someone said that one day because they thought it sounded clever, and people jumped on that bandwagon. No writer is honored bound to do that.
@@davrosdaleks1 I'm referring to mainstream portrayals, genius
5:55 Damn this AI is savage.
hey i still wrote the script 😭
*loll*
What if in descendants five since ulyana didnt get her revenge her daughter
1. Steals the time machine and stops red and chloe from changing the past
Or
2. Gets revenge on red and chloe in honor of her mom(ulyana)
Uliamia os her aunt and no sje wont get revemge
Plus Bridget was so nice Ulyana deserved it
Yes, the movie was good. But they should have stopped at Descendants three. Having grown up with original cast, they were well loved, and this is a movie that shouldn't have been made. They ended it quite well with Mal and Ben’s wedding.
About maybe Chloe turning evil because the change time travel sounds interesting 🤔, reminds me a interview with Malia and kylie ask about what they expect of the next movie and Malia say she likes to explore VK Chloe Malia like see evil Chloe, so, really hope this theory can happen 😅😅😅😅
They should make prequels
I didn’t even think of that. Well this is kind of a prequel
I thought the end of the story was wholesome, and I was shocked when I saw it