I completely agree that the bureaucracy is ridiculous, but I do also agree with their conclusion. The country doesn't need another sterile carp lake, there's one of those every five minutes, and native animals should always take preference. To determine that it should have been a single survey which cost a couple of grand - a single professional could have visited once and done all those tests and checks.
Couldn’t have put this better. As a fisherman and a conservationist, the newts need some space. I’ve worked with them for years. They’re getting bottlenecked beyond belief and are quickly running out of suitable habitat.
I would take another sample of the water and send it to an independent company to see if there is newt piss in the water. Also, how do they know if it isn't just a normal newt piss I reckon they are taking the piss and trying to get you to pay more money in there bullsh*t fund...
@doghouseriley4732 I'm not sure about that myself,the amount of water compared to a few newts taking a piss is ridiculous... it's like me pouring in a millilitre of beer in a lake and them telling me what beer it is ,I can't see it I think they see him on youtube see how successfull he is doing driving expensive cars and knowing he's desperate to have a lake of his own they want to screw him over and get as much money as possible
I'm a developer where we have to provide a 10% net gain on biodiversity and the way it's set up doesn't work on site so you just have to pay money, which never really results in a 10% net gain. The system is broken and that's why things take forever or just become unviable like the lake
Hi Benedict, I did some fishery work for a golf course that was filling in some lakes and before I removed and relocated the fish thay had to remove GC Newts. They got a company to fence the lakes with plastic sheeting fencing and put newt traps around the lake when they migrate out of the lake to hiberate...basically buckets in the ground (with a stick to the outside, incase mammals fell in so they could get out) when no more newts were trapped over a specific time period they could fill the lakes in. The GC Newts were relocated to another site. Might be worth contacting Natural England for a site vist/consultation to see if this is possible for you. Might help. All the best
years back worked on a job for a big american bank near Chester,. Newt fence went up, newt traps in the ground, only problem was Mr Heron found out and breakfast was easy pickings from the buckets each morning.
We do a lot of fencing work, and some of that is newt fencing. You'd be surprised how much of a hold up newts are, and have been for at least the last 20 years.
An area close to me had documented great crested newts. They built a puddle for them 10ftX10ft and then covered acres with houses. So why you would have to worry about them
None of us and I mean NONE were politicly interested but we are all now in a place where we are forced to fight for all that we have known in our glorious country. The recent meeting between Kier and Blackrock should cement just how in danger this country is right now.
Day ticket lakes are all of what's wrong in modern carp fishing anyways, your initial outlay may cost a lot but you'll make a lot of money from it. My dad plays badminton with a guy who has 7 lakes and he says it's like having a money printing machine. Personally if i had a lake like this i'd stock it with a handful of carp and just let it be for a few years and then let me and my mates fish it.
I know someone who used to put newts on land to stop houses being built.on occasionally he newts in a pond which need to be drained so they could build house the newts put a stop to it.the guy lost thousands of pounds
No average Joe is going to jail. Its to stop developers just trashing everything, like they do trees. If you want to stop a development, just import the newts.
It is true that the carp would be bad news dor the great crested newts, so its not that surprising given their conservation status. E(nvironmental) DNA, which picks up tiny traces of target species DNA is pretty new technology, so that is bad luck for you!
I have zero knowledge of planning applications but I know the mere mention of "newt" can be a major problem and at that point I'd need to look much closer at the viability of such a planning application and any additional costs that may be incurred if it was still possible
It's not really a wonder. If you build the longest railway since the Victorian era, there are bound to be problems. What was amazing was that the Government at the time seemed "surprised", which basically means they were thick. Well we know that. The question you should ask yourself is why they wasted so much taxpayers money on a railway that no-one really wanted. Lots of people at the time said it would never be finished and that was the reason that the project was started in London and in Manchester. An make sure that all the "specially selected" contractors paid the Conservative party a lot of money in donations. The Government wasted £92billion and was a total farce but your takeaway is............................... a bat cover.
Personally i would give it a year or two then revisit the situation, get the water tested again then etc…..hopefully no carp find there way into the lake in the meantime as they would certainly remove the newt problem 🙄🤣
Sorry to hear that this has not worked out at the moment. I hope you're able to sort it out in the future. Maybe you can do something else with it, while you're waiting? Not sure what that could be. But I'm sure you'll think of something.
Jeromy Clarkson highlighted the hypocrisy of his local council. Surely they can see how you’re trying to improve the area and make a business from this land. I believe in saving and encouraging wildlife to an area and some areas should remain unspoilt but I think you’ve jumped through enough hoops in the pursuit of getting that all important planning permission. I hope you continue to push ahead with this project and hope your perseverance pays off. You might sink 100k into it but I think you can be proud that your vision will become reality. I’m sure there’s plenty of sponsors wanting to work with you especially if you keep racing your Lambo with Matt and Chris 😁 plus your an entrepreneur with plenty of drive
Hi Benedict , I watch all your fishing content. sorry if I’ve missed something here but before spending out on a project like this , did you not seek advise ? Surely a lot of people are aware newts are protected in the uk like bats are to a certain degree . Seems like a senseless load of money just wasted . Should be the first thing to investigate before leasing the lake given your plans ?
Not true. I have a newt pond with all uk newt species they are in there as soon as the risk of the pond freezing is over March April ish until september when the numbers drop but there is still newts in there. They are feeding on daphnia. 6 weeks is completely untrue.
It’s a little longer than 6 weeks nearer to anytime within 4 or 5 months, they’ll seek out ponds from mid spring to the end of summer then adults generally will spend most of the time in grassland and woodland. The juveniles hatch in the summer and will probably leave for semi hibernation in the autumn. If your garden pond is in an urban setting then you are altering the environment they seek after breeding so you are having an effect on their behaviour.
no way bro thats never nice to hear bloody councils will do anything for a pound! was looking forward to many days and nights fishing there please revisit when its better suited for you bro. keep up the good work
Restore a degraded Lake Mr Fowler. You may make home for more than just your carp. But, Leave the precious Newts, in there homes. Rewilding, not rewinding the way to go.
does the £85K include them collecting all the newts and relocating them to the "Safe Place" or do they just put signs up directing them to there nice new location?
walk around any lake at night with a big bright lamp and you will soon see if newts are in there , it saves thousands of pounds , , i cannot believe you never done a survey like this your self after the last pond you done ,you went through all this before .you must be a little bit unknowledgeable, im being nice with that word
surely buying a big run down country estate with a couple of lakes on it would be the way to go rather than subletting famland , they ll probably want to use it for irrigating fields and then your left with a half empty cesspit of a lake every year
As much as i love lakes and fishing them, if i owned this lake i would fill it in and sell it for development. Pretty sure you’d get planning for housing no problem
Probably not there was a plot of land next to my little village they wanted to build 35 houses but there is a pond about 20m round and they found great crested newts and not only rejected the planning but made it a SSSI 👍 so no ugly houses spoiling our village
This is typical of people that really have no idea what they are doing and latch onto something that will cause as much pain to you as they can! They are called Councils! Too much power and no idea!
fun fact from Denmark to our British brothers. I work with this, and it 100% the same in denmark. I thought this was why you wanted out of EU to get rid of stupid regulation that dont save a living thing. Perhaps the newt population would grow, who knows - i seen projects where that happened. even a new house build where the owner had all kind of restrictions, now his cellar and septic drain system is filled with newts in winter time
You should have put some carp in first to clear the site, or what happens if someone else put some carp in or can they detect fingerprints on a carp to prove who put it in or paid the inspector £15k to provide water from elsewhere where… tough break you try and do things right and get penalised
As we know from Clarksons farm sense and reasoning don’t really come into play when it comes to business ideas and councils. It makes you wonder about existing fishing lakes, not just locally but nationally. I mean newts surely move In don’t they? Is Linear fishery at Standlake newt free?! Or even little Tuckers pond there in Faringdon? Yep I’m local and fished those with my lad years ago. I feel for you and the project. Especially when tens of thousands of houses are popping up on floodplains and other green belt areas. It’s all wrong. More wrong here in The Vale than anywhere else I believe as we’re getting hit the hardest.
So how is it that all these housing developers get away with destroying thousands of acres of countryside and its wildlife. Scandalous but its all about who can offer the biggest brown envelope
How much is your yearly rent ? I ask because my mom has a 4 acre lake with 20 lb plus carp in it that she stocked it with in the mid 90s they breed every year and it’s situated in gorgeous natural surroundings, a local businessman offered her 1500 pounds a year to rent it for his fishing club syndicate . We obviously didn’t make that deal as it seems like a complete piss take could anyone tell me roughly what the going rate may be ?
Not sure what else the lake has around it, car park, extra space, fencing etc, but you’re roughly on about 5k You then have to come up with a plan together with the cost of fencing etc as it’s your land but un needed if it wasn’t a fishing lake, sort of divide the cost over 10 years and see what it works out, you’ll be earning less for those 10 years but they’re actually paying for something that will last years and years, That’s if you have the money to pay for the fence In The first place, no one’s going to pay you top money in the current circumstances for the chance of all the fish being eaten
That’s not a random price that’s a price I know a lot of people are paying based on 4/5 acres, some obviously less some more, if you end up Charging to much there becomes a point where it’s a stale mate, the club can’t charge anymore to the anglers and no money to spend on it to get to the point of charging more It probably needs a fair amount of work, fish stock depending, fence, a lot of contributing factors go towards price, he’s not miles off if it’s not fenced, needs work and has a few fish in it to 20lb probs more like 2k untill you can come up with a future plan between you
@@lovinmotocross it has parking and acces road it has a wood on 2 sides that’s been thinned out and managed for years it’s got a very good stock of common and mirror I have fished it myself for years , it’s an old marl pit dug by my grandad 150 years ago no work would need doing at all as I have managed the woodland and surrounding farm land thanks for your reply
@ unfortunately no fencing required is crazy, we have a fully otter fenced fishery and they still find their way in time to time, just because you haven’t seen them or any evidence doesn’t mean they haven’t been there or won’t
The annoying thing is that the test isn't specific to great crested newts, it's just general newts. I could have told them there were newts in there without all the pomp and procedure. It's a patch of still water, there are going to be newts. Last time i emptied my 6ft by 8ft pond I had 2 buckets overflowing with common newts
Sounds like it's becoming the "Diddly Squat" Fishery thanks to your council and their endless Red Tape. You might get there someday. Good luck with it if you do. 🐟
Yep, the idiot Clarkson who only bought a farm to get around inheritance tax. How's that going? And here, buying a lake and assuming it would make a great fishery with shit loads of snags and newts. Like an episode of dumber and dumber.
Get a thousand C1’s in there stealth incase you ever get back to the project. Won’t be newt pee in there by then plus you’ll have cheap stock. You’re welcome.
Second comment after reading further comments put your course rods away and go fish moving water like an actual skilled fisherman, carp fisheries are the equivalent of the USA USA idiots that call dumping corn in front of a shed in a woods “deer hunting”
Good lessons here illustrated for people looking to invest in property and land. These lessons are almost always lernt the hard way! Caveat Emptor! This should be taught in schools.
So moral of the story is do what you like and take the 6 months inside on the chin. That way no one at the council gets rich for doing a day's work and when you come out the lake will be ready to fish 😂
I used to catch Great Crested Newts as a lad. They’re awesome creatures that are being killed off by land development and loss of habitat so deserve this level of protection. Did you not consider the costs of this when you took on the project. Sounds like you should sack your financial advisor. 😂
Real fisheries aint profitable really they are just a long term money maker most people buy an stock carp with the intent on selling them in future or somerhing like that , also smaller match lakes is where the money is at
Get a second opinion on the EAN. They wrote it that you WOULD need a licence which to a planner means GCN is 100% there. You didn’t explain if the eDNA picked up GCN or common newts. If GCN are there then yes, kiss goodbye to it as you’ll never get PP for the change of land use. If it’s common newts then you have less issues. You could seek advice from natural england, wildlife trust or freshwater habitats trust on this also.
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I completely agree that the bureaucracy is ridiculous, but I do also agree with their conclusion. The country doesn't need another sterile carp lake, there's one of those every five minutes, and native animals should always take preference.
To determine that it should have been a single survey which cost a couple of grand - a single professional could have visited once and done all those tests and checks.
Couldn’t have put this better. As a fisherman and a conservationist, the newts need some space. I’ve worked with them for years. They’re getting bottlenecked beyond belief and are quickly running out of suitable habitat.
I would take another sample of the water and send it to an independent company to see if there is newt piss in the water. Also, how do they know if it isn't just a normal newt piss I reckon they are taking the piss and trying to get you to pay more money in there bullsh*t fund...
100%
Fill it full of Perch first.
To answer this in a very boring but logical way..... they check the DNA.
@doghouseriley4732 I'm not sure about that myself,the amount of water compared to a few newts taking a piss is ridiculous... it's like me pouring in a millilitre of beer in a lake and them telling me what beer it is ,I can't see it I think they see him on youtube see how successfull he is doing driving expensive cars and knowing he's desperate to have a lake of his own they want to screw him over and get as much money as possible
Did u not know by the lake history there were newts sorry to hear your pain but a lake already with fish long term project all the best 👍🦈
I'm a developer where we have to provide a 10% net gain on biodiversity and the way it's set up doesn't work on site so you just have to pay money, which never really results in a 10% net gain. The system is broken and that's why things take forever or just become unviable like the lake
These people are all care and protection, right up to the point of ££££££££££ then all of a sudden it’s ok to crack, pay the man and it all goes away.
Hi Benedict, I did some fishery work for a golf course that was filling in some lakes and before I removed and relocated the fish thay had to remove GC Newts. They got a company to fence the lakes with plastic sheeting fencing and put newt traps around the lake when they migrate out of the lake to hiberate...basically buckets in the ground (with a stick to the outside, incase mammals fell in so they could get out) when no more newts were trapped over a specific time period they could fill the lakes in. The GC Newts were relocated to another site. Might be worth contacting Natural England for a site vist/consultation to see if this is possible for you. Might help. All the best
years back worked on a job for a big american bank near Chester,. Newt fence went up, newt traps in the ground, only problem was Mr Heron found out and breakfast was easy pickings from the buckets each morning.
Accidently slip a few catfish in, then get the newt piss survey done a year later. Will send my consultant fee in the post 😂
Thats the most stupid thing I have heard 🤣
We do a lot of fencing work, and some of that is newt fencing. You'd be surprised how much of a hold up newts are, and have been for at least the last 20 years.
An area close to me had documented great crested newts. They built a puddle for them 10ftX10ft and then covered acres with houses. So why you would have to worry about them
None of us and I mean NONE were politicly interested but we are all now in a place where we are forced to fight for all that we have known in our glorious country. The recent meeting between Kier and Blackrock should cement just how in danger this country is right now.
..............It's a shame, but I think what you are expressing has gone over most peoples heads.
I hope that you are not inferring, that our government is owned, by corporate interests?
@@fortnitefred1351 if only! Catchup!
I saw the film Rollerball when I was a teenager. It's becoming more like real life everyday. That's frightening.
this right here
Day ticket lakes are all of what's wrong in modern carp fishing anyways, your initial outlay may cost a lot but you'll make a lot of money from it. My dad plays badminton with a guy who has 7 lakes and he says it's like having a money printing machine. Personally if i had a lake like this i'd stock it with a handful of carp and just let it be for a few years and then let me and my mates fish it.
Nothing is "Wrong" with modern carp fishing. If you don't like day ticket waters then don't fish them...?
You're not going to make a lot of money from 10 pegs.
@@Ashley-dy7bxnot the waters its the instant dta's that fish them 😊
I know someone who used to put newts on land to stop houses being built.on occasionally he newts in a pond which need to be drained so they could build house the newts put a stop to it.the guy lost thousands of pounds
@DonnyRP he's making money from these videos, and you're watching them and calling him a bellend?
Get more punishment for harming newts then you do children. What does that say about our country
It may be a bit more in depth that I feel lol .
No average Joe is going to jail. Its to stop developers just trashing everything, like they do trees. If you want to stop a development, just import the newts.
Its to stop developers filling everything in. If you want to stop a development just add newts.
What an idiotic comparison. Well done.
In fairness most children are c*nts
It is true that the carp would be bad news dor the great crested newts, so its not that surprising given their conservation status. E(nvironmental) DNA, which picks up tiny traces of target species DNA is pretty new technology, so that is bad luck for you!
I have zero knowledge of planning applications but I know the mere mention of "newt" can be a major problem and at that point I'd need to look much closer at the viability of such a planning application and any additional costs that may be incurred if it was still possible
Well yeah they're a protected species- so of course you're going to go through lots of hoops before potentially destroying their habitat.
Lets hope a bird with carp eggs dont land in that lake cas they could grow and eat the newts
Great Video Bud 👍👍Planning 😡😡We had the same near where we live and they found Newts and that was job cancelled amazing 😡😡
Hello Again, And people wonder why it cost £100 million to build a 'Bat Cover' for HS2 !!!!!!!!
Best of Luck.
It's not really a wonder. If you build the longest railway since the Victorian era, there are bound to be problems. What was amazing was that the Government at the time seemed "surprised", which basically means they were thick. Well we know that.
The question you should ask yourself is why they wasted so much taxpayers money on a railway that no-one really wanted. Lots of people at the time said it would never be finished and that was the reason that the project was started in London and in Manchester. An make sure that all the "specially selected" contractors paid the Conservative party a lot of money in donations.
The Government wasted £92billion and was a total farce but your takeaway is............................... a bat cover.
I’m a gardener and there’s newts everywhere.
It's a wonder they don't advise you to START with the Newt Wee testing thingy. Before spending all that other dough. 😅
get some fish in there now and the newts will have gone by the next time you need to look into it.... just a thought :P
Chuck a bunch of POISSON CHAT in the wet stuff and you’re golden mate😂
The spinney thing is called a Theodolite.
Personally i would give it a year or two then revisit the situation, get the water tested again then etc…..hopefully no carp find there way into the lake in the meantime as they would certainly remove the newt problem 🙄🤣
Did you not think to check for newts before you started?
Sorry to hear that this has not worked out at the moment. I hope you're able to sort it out in the future. Maybe you can do something else with it, while you're waiting? Not sure what that could be. But I'm sure you'll think of something.
I had a pet newt when I was a kid. I called him Tiny. He was my newt 😊
I see what you mean, at the moment defo seems like a money pit, but I can see you completing it in the future. Keep your head up, you got this 💪
Jeromy Clarkson highlighted the hypocrisy of his local council. Surely they can see how you’re trying to improve the area and make a business from this land. I believe in saving and encouraging wildlife to an area and some areas should remain unspoilt but I think you’ve jumped through enough hoops in the pursuit of getting that all important planning permission.
I hope you continue to push ahead with this project and hope your perseverance pays off. You might sink 100k into it but I think you can be proud that your vision will become reality.
I’m sure there’s plenty of sponsors wanting to work with you especially if you keep racing your Lambo with Matt and Chris 😁 plus your an entrepreneur with plenty of drive
I seen 6 newts frolicking whilst you were making this video
Hi Benedict , I watch all your fishing content. sorry if I’ve missed something here but before spending out on a project like this , did you not seek advise ? Surely a lot of people are aware newts are protected in the uk like bats are to a certain degree .
Seems like a senseless load of money just wasted . Should be the first thing to investigate before leasing the lake given your plans ?
The thing that gets me if it wasn't people like you who could look after and care for these lakes alot would just be overgrown and derelict.
Newts only spend 6 weeks of the year in summer in the pond. They live on land in burrows the rest of the year.
Not true. I have a newt pond with all uk newt species they are in there as soon as the risk of the pond freezing is over March April ish until september when the numbers drop but there is still newts in there. They are feeding on daphnia. 6 weeks is completely untrue.
It’s a little longer than 6 weeks nearer to anytime within 4 or 5 months, they’ll seek out ponds from mid spring to the end of summer then adults generally will spend most of the time in grassland and woodland.
The juveniles hatch in the summer and will probably leave for semi hibernation in the autumn.
If your garden pond is in an urban setting then you are altering the environment they seek after breeding so you are having an effect on their behaviour.
Are there already carp in that lake?
no way bro thats never nice to hear bloody councils will do anything for a pound! was looking forward to many days and nights fishing there please revisit when its better suited for you bro. keep up the good work
This channel went for interesting project to full on RUclipsr pretty quickly.
Imagine if there was a couple hundred carp just appearing in there to eat up them newts problems disappear
Shame there aren't any GC newts in our 4-star hotels.
Can you literally not see or do anything without relating it to immigration you complete weirdo. Find something else to latch your personality onto.
Can you open a rainbow trout lake for fly fishing.
If they won't affect the newts.
Restore a degraded Lake Mr Fowler. You may make home for more than just your carp. But, Leave the precious Newts, in there homes. Rewilding, not rewinding the way to go.
Surley if you wanted to turn it into a fishery, you would have made sure it could be done before buying it?
Got my wording wrong. Leased it for a small amount really for 1yr
does the £85K include them collecting all the newts and relocating them to the "Safe Place" or do they just put signs up directing them to there nice new location?
walk around any lake at night with a big bright lamp and you will soon see if newts are in there , it saves thousands of pounds , , i cannot believe you never done a survey like this your self after the last pond you done ,you went through all this before .you must be a little bit unknowledgeable, im being nice with that word
surely buying a big run down country estate with a couple of lakes on it would be the way to go rather than subletting famland , they ll probably want to use it for irrigating fields and then your left with a half empty cesspit of a lake every year
Just so many problems that I can't believe it ever got to the stage it did. Newt and snags would be enough to make any sensible person run a mile.
Simple problem really. You just weren't ready to hand out the Mediterranean holidays to the local planning department.
As much as i love lakes and fishing them, if i owned this lake i would fill it in and sell it for development. Pretty sure you’d get planning for housing no problem
Probably not there was a plot of land next to my little village they wanted to build 35 houses but there is a pond about 20m round and they found great crested newts and not only rejected the planning but made it a SSSI 👍 so no ugly houses spoiling our village
It'd have the same issues - it'd just be more financially viable, rather than the problem suddenly going away.
This is typical of people that really have no idea what they are doing and latch onto something that will cause as much pain to you as they can! They are called Councils! Too much power and no idea!
Vale of the White Horse.!…… need I say more……
The whole of England is falling apart and yet they focus on stupid rules like planning permission for your own land 😂😂😂
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fun fact from Denmark to our British brothers. I work with this, and it 100% the same in denmark. I thought this was why you wanted out of EU to get rid of stupid regulation that dont save a living thing. Perhaps the newt population would grow, who knows - i seen projects where that happened. even a new house build where the owner had all kind of restrictions, now his cellar and septic drain system is filled with newts in winter time
Just open it up as a wild fishery sneek some perch and pike in there and a couple of cat fish newts gone job done
Did you hear the prison part? 😂
@benedictfowler hear no evil see no evil
So every carp fishing lake is breaking the law if there's newts in it
You should have put some carp in first to clear the site, or what happens if someone else put some carp in or can they detect fingerprints on a carp to prove who put it in or paid the inspector £15k to provide water from elsewhere where… tough break you try and do things right and get penalised
Imagine no one looking after the site, fly tippers paradise. Then a proposal to turn into a secure fishery with fencing…….
6 months in jail seems a cheaper option 😂😂😂
As we know from Clarksons farm sense and reasoning don’t really come into play when it comes to business ideas and councils.
It makes you wonder about existing fishing lakes, not just locally but nationally. I mean newts surely move In don’t they? Is Linear fishery at Standlake newt free?! Or even little Tuckers pond there in Faringdon? Yep I’m local and fished those with my lad years ago.
I feel for you and the project. Especially when tens of thousands of houses are popping up on floodplains and other green belt areas.
It’s all wrong. More wrong here in The Vale than anywhere else I believe as we’re getting hit the hardest.
You need to get on the phone to Jaguar and offer your marketing services, I think theirs might need some help. 😊
So how is it that all these housing developers get away with destroying thousands of acres of countryside and its wildlife. Scandalous but its all about who can offer the biggest brown envelope
How much is your yearly rent ? I ask because my mom has a 4 acre lake with 20 lb plus carp in it that she stocked it with in the mid 90s they breed every year and it’s situated in gorgeous natural surroundings, a local businessman offered her 1500 pounds a year to rent it for his fishing club syndicate . We obviously didn’t make that deal as it seems like a complete piss take could anyone tell me roughly what the going rate may be ?
Not sure what else the lake has around it, car park, extra space, fencing etc, but you’re roughly on about 5k
You then have to come up with a plan together with the cost of fencing etc as it’s your land but un needed if it wasn’t a fishing lake, sort of divide the cost over 10 years and see what it works out, you’ll be earning less for those 10 years but they’re actually paying for something that will last years and years,
That’s if you have the money to pay for the fence In The first place, no one’s going to pay you top money in the current circumstances for the chance of all the fish being eaten
That’s not a random price that’s a price I know a lot of people are paying based on 4/5 acres, some obviously less some more, if you end up
Charging to much there becomes a point where it’s a stale mate, the club can’t charge anymore to the anglers and no money to spend on it to get to the point of charging more
It probably needs a fair amount of work, fish stock depending, fence, a lot of contributing factors go towards price, he’s not miles off if it’s not fenced, needs work and has a few fish in it to 20lb probs more like 2k untill you can come up with a future plan between you
@@lovinmotocross it has parking and acces road it has a wood on 2 sides that’s been thinned out and managed for years it’s got a very good stock of common and mirror I have fished it myself for years , it’s an old marl pit dug by my grandad 150 years ago no work would need doing at all as I have managed the woodland and surrounding farm land thanks for your reply
@@lovinmotocross it’s located on a farm estate no fencing would be required it’s literally ready to be fished with zero work at any moment
@ unfortunately no fencing required is crazy, we have a fully otter fenced fishery and they still find their way in time to time, just because you haven’t seen them or any evidence doesn’t mean they haven’t been there or won’t
Sounds like another Clarkson dilemma… We can’t do anything nowadays
The annoying thing is that the test isn't specific to great crested newts, it's just general newts. I could have told them there were newts in there without all the pomp and procedure. It's a patch of still water, there are going to be newts. Last time i emptied my 6ft by 8ft pond I had 2 buckets overflowing with common newts
They check the DNA, seriously so many people here talk crap.
Lad I would just walk away to be honest .. find a different venue , maybe in France
Just do it without the newt credits. All English councils are bankrupt and can’t afford to take you to court over it.
I think ur crazy benedict just like me lol in good way tho and would 2 meet u 1 big it up 2 u tho m8 wot u do (legend)
That newt piss can be runoff water
Makes you laugh at the hypocrisy, they appear to be able to build on any green belt land or protected land... Money talks...
Yeah I've been through it many times. I packed up in the end and went to Thailand
Yeah I've been through it many times. I packed up in the end and went to Thailand
You need some catfish in there. They’ll wipe out everything, along with some cormorants, and maybe some crocs!! These councils are off their rockers.m
The damage to the newts will come from you dragging that underwater forest out 🫣
Sounds like it's becoming the "Diddly Squat" Fishery thanks to your council and their endless Red Tape. You might get there someday. Good luck with it if you do. 🐟
Yep, the idiot Clarkson who only bought a farm to get around inheritance tax. How's that going? And here, buying a lake and assuming it would make a great fishery with shit loads of snags and newts. Like an episode of dumber and dumber.
You'd think you'd price up the project before buying the land.....
Thats a shame. Really wanted to fish it
Ah the myth of the super rare great crested newt. FML we had a garden full of the things, abut as rare as an asylum seeker taking over a U.K. hotel
Great video mate, very informative keep it up bud 👍
It would be bad luck if so fish got into this lake and nibbled up the newts? how can you make sure that never happens?? Nature can be cruel
Ad just stock that for private use
Get a thousand C1’s in there stealth incase you ever get back to the project. Won’t be newt pee in there by then plus you’ll have cheap stock. You’re welcome.
But was there any werewolves?
Ok
Time to put some carp in the lake
Second comment after reading further comments put your course rods away and go fish moving water like an actual skilled fisherman, carp fisheries are the equivalent of the USA USA idiots that call dumping corn in front of a shed in a woods “deer hunting”
Open a newt viewing centre 😂
Bureaucracy the killer of dreams.
Good lessons here illustrated for people looking to invest in property and land.
These lessons are almost always lernt the hard way! Caveat Emptor!
This should be taught in schools.
So moral of the story is do what you like and take the 6 months inside on the chin. That way no one at the council gets rich for doing a day's work and when you come out the lake will be ready to fish 😂
I am just shocked at the scale of costs for a 10 peg fishing lake!! Insane political nightmare that.
Let me find my violin
id be pissed as a newt after that
this is when some DET would be useful in the enviroment
Tell them if you don't get permission your going to put mobile homes on it .
I used to catch Great Crested Newts as a lad. They’re awesome creatures that are being killed off by land development and loss of habitat so deserve this level of protection. Did you not consider the costs of this when you took on the project. Sounds like you should sack your financial advisor. 😂
Bloody newts honestly, my lakes thriving with life with the changes ive made. Angling brings life to old lakes
Real fisheries aint profitable really they are just a long term money maker most people buy an stock carp with the intent on selling them in future or somerhing like that , also smaller match lakes is where the money is at
So much money spent and nothing to show for it 😂
FFS 😮
This is just a small example of the people higher up literally taking the piss
Get a second opinion on the EAN. They wrote it that you WOULD need a licence which to a planner means GCN is 100% there. You didn’t explain if the eDNA picked up GCN or common newts.
If GCN are there then yes, kiss goodbye to it as you’ll never get PP for the change of land use.
If it’s common newts then you have less issues.
You could seek advice from natural england, wildlife trust or freshwater habitats trust on this also.
drop 200 3lb perch in there wait 2 years
totally legal and by by newt problem.
This is great news time to get activists down to protest yippee
Hi Ben,
please can you / your editor stop using the iphone text sound effect, everytime made me look at my phone lmao
Next time do it without planning permision.