2 Trail Bikes Under $3K Tested: Ibis Ripmo AF vs. Canyon Spectral AL | Pinkbike Field Test
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- We take a look at the 2020 Ibis Ripmo AF and the Canyon Spectral AL 6.0, two great mountain bikes for under $3000, and see how the two stack up.
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For a dude in his 60s, RC can rip. I hope I’m half that good at his age.
Just keep riding. I'm 56 and don't see myself slowing down anytime soon.
The problem with age isn’t the speed, it’s surviving crashes unscathed. The ability to fall like a cat diminishes exponentially with age after a certain point.
You only slow down on the trails when you begin thinking you can't do it anymore. We are lied to about what we can do once we get 60+. Doctors will tell you to slow down and relax, you can't keep doing these things anymore. It's bullshit. If you stick to the same exercise when you're 60 as you did when you're 20-30, you will be able to keep going at the same pace. Your body is pretty much just as capable at older ages. When you listen to the BS that we are told and you stop pushing yourself like you used to that you actually can't do it anymore. It's not about age it's about consistency. There's a reason people die much faster after they retire, and I don't know if it's related or not, but it sure seems that way. You retire, you get more health problems caused by lack of movement because you sit around the house and do nothing, and your body then starts to deteriorate.
That line at 9:45 at the end of Ride Don't Slide in Whistler is pretty serious, doesn't look it on camera but it's rowdy.
Can you do a review of the stumpjumper comp alloy 12 speed
I remember him reviewing steel hardtails back in the 90s for Mountainbike Action. The man is a legend of the industry.
Would be really cool to have flashback reviews where those classic 26" restored bikes get ridden and tested against each other.
We see this guy once a year... I wanna see him more
I really like how calm this guy talks, i'm tired of everyone screaming at me on reviews
This was soooo much better than the other Field Test videos. These are 2 bikes I would actually consider buying.
The other bikes cost 3x as much and it didn't seem like the reviewers even enjoyed them or had any fun.
And an added bonus with the double Assegais on the Ripmo. Replace the back Assegai with an Aggressor or Dissector for less rolling resistance, and keep the rear Assegai to replace the front when it wears out (assuming Ibis didn't cheap out and put a dual compound Assegai on the rear).
Funny (annoying) they're still doing this years later... like why?? Do they have 5 years worth of discounted Assegai stock to burn through???
I've found the dual compound just wears harder and lasts longer, I don't mind as hard pack eats soft 3c compounds
My first ride on the DW link was a revelation.
Show this guy more
I just got a Neuron Al 7.0. $2500.00 before tax. Rode a Gen 3 Tallboy CC and a Transition Bandit before this. For $2500.00, the Neuron is an excellent bike.
He said it best: lots of people have skills, bu not the money to buy a $5k bike. It’s nice the bike industry is finally serving this market of riders who ride well and ride a lot but don’t want to spend more thank $3k. It really is a golden age for MTB.
Nice to see a fellow grey beard ( old kid ) in the mix . Well done Sir .
ripmo af hit the sweet spot , as wel as the new optic did for some more money
i watched this video when i was first looking into buying a mtb. well it's been like 2 months and went from wanting a simple hard tail (nukeproof scout, etc all sold out) to now saying screw it and prepping to buy a ripmo AF.
I’d recommend starting with a hardtail to build good habits, I would be horrible at picking lines and keeping my rear end tracking well if I started with a full sus.
I'm actually super curious to know what you went with since I was considering staying old school and upgrading from a rigid trek 3700 hardtail to something like the new Nukeproof or go all out with a custom Binary Maniak hardtail but then after totaling the cost I'm just as tempted to get a Ripmo..
What is firmer/stiffer suspension? Is that just saying that you did bad job at tuning it to your needs or that it can't be tuned to your liking?
I really hope Canyon finally figured out the cracking chainstays on the spectrals. The latest Spectral 6 spec is really nice (SLX brakes and drivetrain and Fox 36 & DPX2, Minion DHR2 front&back) and in Germany retail price is 2600€.
If they fixed the issues for good now, that's a really nice bike.
They have the 2021 now, hopefully it’s fixed!
@@bastosnaunggoy Just found this video again, I got the spec I mentioned back in late 2020 (didn't go for the newer 29" model since they only had Carbon options back then starting at 3600€) and it's been really reliable and fun!
Ordered my silver AF NX three weeks ago, its on back order. Apparently people are buying the hell out of them! Cant wait to get it!!!!
I've had mine for a month. Its so good!
@@NKPMPRODUCTIONS UPS says mine should be here by the end of the day! I the house quiet so i can hear if they pull up, and i cant stop peeking out the windows! Im 43yrs old but i feel like im 15 and its Christmas day!!
@@nodnarbswenson haha I hope you get to ride the shit out of it this weekend!
Nice!! Bikes that people actually can buy
A great pasionate review. Excellet.
Thanks for the years of articles and reviews RC!
Great Ripmo, great review.
How about $2000 hard tail?
I’ve ridden both bikes and I’ve owned Ibis bikes before and I’m a fan but the Canyon is a better bike ..mainly in the radial compliance at the rear end. (The stiffness Richard mentions is not from the suspension)...It seems to be a mainstay throughout the Canyon lineup. The bike press continually low balls Canyon bikes because they’re a direct to consumer producer. That’s unfortunate because they are better engineered, better soec’d than everyone else ..at this point anyways
Gday mate.
Will this frame fit a 38t chainring?
If not, what is the max size?
Thank you
So which one is better ?
“The welds are pretty good, they aren’t the best I’ve seen.” Cracked chainstay gang anyone?????
Here 🖐🏻
Also mine snapped in half.
@@th_js You snapped the Canyon? How's the warranty working out? I was thinking of getting one but might reconsider the YT Jeffsey instead.
@@gw3616 No, I mean that the Chainstay snapped in two pieces. Warranty worked, but it was very slow, couldn't ride my Spectral for way over a month. Now that I have the replacement chainstay, it's showing serious signs of future cracks already.
Tomi Saaranen how hard do you guys ride?
@@owenavila408 I don't know haha.. Now there's a Crack where the shock mount is welded to the down tube, will not ever buy a Canyon, or at least an aluminum Canyon again.
No pro bike handling under $3k? Huh? There’s a lot of YT Capra owners who would beg to differ.
Update: I demo'd the Ripmo AF and Ripmo back to back today.
I was very impressed with the AF - pedals great up and down.
The Ripmo Carbon is like a Sports Car and the AF is like a Truck - an efficient truck!...LOL.
I'm wondering if I buy the AF with the NX build and upgrade the Bike Yoke post ( the one the NX build comes with is too clunky), if that would be good enough? or should I go with the SLX or GX build? I'd appreciate some input on this. Thanks
Norbert Demanuele I think changing from sram to Shimano would be more of your preference which one you like the feel of better. But I think it will be more cost effective to upgrade the drivetrain before you upgrade the dropper post. I also recommend that you just use the dropper post until it goes out of service then you upgrade it after. Hope this helps.
66° headtube. A little steep?
Lol, its 1 degree off most modern racebikes(Pivot firebird etc.). Enduro series winner in Czech Republic has that angle on his racebike too, and man Czech Republic enduro stages get steep ang gnarly.
it is for 27,5 , not so much for 29er
Did SRAM finally start making functional disc brakes? I bought several sets of theirs, from bottom to top of the line across about ten years, and they were all garbage. They did not have a single redeeming feature about them.
I have got guide RSC's on my spectral, they are not bad, but when I compare them to Shimano zee's shows me that they are miles behind. First thing, get a proper bleed and sintered pads, the organic one suck and are done after a few descents.
Dose anyone make cross country bikes anymore?
Amazing type of video. Just love the aspect of not testing super high end bikes...
Thanks for testing bikes that people actually buy.
Matt H You‘ve never been to Switzerland then. The bike parks here have more $5k+ bikes than
@@ApeWatchingTV Have swiss bikeparks braking bumps just like italian or austrian BPs?
@@klstrucker930419 Absolutely. The alps are harsh
@@ApeWatchingTV there is no way your average rider is spending $5K on a bike here in the states. Most bike riders are not buying bikes in the >7K price bracket, which is what bike magazines just love to review.
@@matth8924 It's what companies like to send to the reviewers because that is what they want people to buy.
this guy reviews bikes 10 times better than any "sender"
2 years after and Im still watching this. This guy made me feel like I am listening to a story than an actual review. He covered all the important points and was able to relate to the regular rider. PB we need to get this man more videos!
Awesome review Pinkbike, Richard Cunningham commentary really made this a treat to watch.
RC has the best reviews. I feel like I can count on his word as pretty definitive.
Depends on which side of the pond you're looking from. In Europe, the cheapest Ripmo AF costs €3599, but Spectral at €3499 features carbon frame and Fox 36 up front. It's a significant difference.
Fox 36 is no better (actually worse) than a Diamond, at elast without a Grip 2 damper. The Topaz is also arguably qquite a bit better than DPX2. Other than that, yeah you are right, but also Id personally go for an YT instead of Canyon, better suspension kinematics imo.
@@piciu256 agreed! As a previous Spectral and current Jeffsy owner I couldn't agree more with you 😊
Then you guys should check bird AM9 lyrics front (actually, configurator for every part) for 3.4k you get better stuff practically everywhere, crazy good wheels, top of the line suspension both rear and front, good brakes... Makes buying one of those two a stupid thing to do... (Economically) obviously they're all fun bikes
@@lrvz7187 meh
But on the lowest forum you can get it for 2k and also send it
I can't thank this review enough for steering me to the ripmo AF. I ended up getting the GX build only because it was the last one in stock in a medium. The bike is beyond amazing, yeah its a bit heavy at 34 pounds for a medium but having a do it all bike that just wants to have fun makes this a monster. One thing people seem to miss about this bike is how nimble it is, corners and hits switchbacks with grace unrivled by any other 29'ers I have tested.
Dear PinkBike, we said it last year and we are saying it again, we want more of RC. He’s one of your best and coolest presenters. How about a RC segment of him out shredding “the scary stuff” as he says, giving us advice on riding and even just life.
Loved this video and last years. I bought the Norco Fluid FS1 after his 2019 review and it’s been just the perfect trail bike for my neck of the woods.
RC: Canyon and Ibis r making good bikes for ppl that actually know what their doing😂😂😭😭😂😭
Love my '19 spectral. Wouldnt change it for anything.
is there way to put an angle set on it if soo it is good bike even for the future :) Ihave carbon jeffsy and it is limited to the numbers from factory , no angle set allowed , which pisses me off big time, cause the bike is great , just not slack enough.
@@joeblack4026 not really sure. I would suggest calling canyon. Theyve always been very helpful.
Yup you can. Pretty sure it has press fit zero stack cups. I much prefer the works version of angle adjust headsets.
joe black not slack enough? flip the chip or you should have bought a capra. First i’ve heard that complaint, the jeffsy is super slack and the steep seat angle makes it climb like a billy 🐐
Openbow TV YT has better builds full carbon for less, nothing at all against canyon.
That Canyon Spectral is the 2019 model. You cannot get that paint job in 2020 model and the new 2020 model has maxxis aggressor at the back and uses raceface components in the cockpit instead of G5. Nothing radical has changed as far as I know but That's definitely the 2019 model in the review.
CR4GOR I agree, my question is how different are the hubs, and the fork. The fork is a pike select and I think the hubs are shimano comparably to DTswiss
Also the day this video posted said bike was not avail on their site. @pinkbike I would really like to see the 2020 model which is more readily available get reviewed.
The al 6.0 has same suspension. The one with rockshox and so in is the ceaper al 5.0
2020 model went up in price quite a bit :(
No, there are just 2 Aluminium bikes and round about 5 carbon versions
Ripmo AF all day long .
First, great video and review.
After considering quite a few bikes for my next bike, I narrowed the field down to the Ibis Ripmo and the Canyon Spectral. Both bikes are more capable than I am but I want a bike that I can really start to progress on and that inspires confidence. I’ve recently had the opportunity to spend 3 hours on each bike and here are my observations after limited experiences on both.
My opinions are based on the following:
- Bikes tested: 2020 Ibis Ripmo AF SLX build and the 2020 Canyon Spectral CF 7.0, so full aluminum 29er vs. carbon front triangle 27.5.
- I’m 47, intermediate rider at best, height 6’ 3/8” (184 cm), inseam 34 ½” (88 cm), wingspan 6’ 3 1/4” (191 cm) so a +3 ape, 210 lbs with full riding gear (13 lbs of gear) and I’m currently out of shape.
- I’ve spent the last 11 years riding a full suspension XC style 29er. So, geometry, thru axle boost spacing, tapered head tube, dropper post, wider rims, shorter stem/wider bars, etc., etc., etc. have changed.
- The Ripmo was tested for 3 continuous hours in late September at the Slaughter Pen trail system in Bentonville, AR. Slaughter Pen has everything most riders could want.
- The Spectral was tested during 3 one hour rides in mid-October at Smithville Lake trail in Kansas City, MO. This is a relatively flat trail with smooth flowy sections, roots and rocks and some chunky advanced sections. No steep descents.
Ibis Ripmo AF SLX:
Pros:
- DW Link is as good as advertised. Very supportive/very little pedal bob.
- 2.5” Assegai tires are super grippy and gave the bike a very planted to the trail feel.
- The DVO Topaz shock and Diamond D1 fork (Onyx D1 for 2021) were very plush yet supportive. I was very impressed with the DVO setup. Mojo Cycling in Bentonville set up the suspension so I’m not sure of the sag, compression and rebound settings. FYI: The Ibis website doesn’t list Mojo as a demo dealer and Mojo doesn’t list the Ripmo AF on their website as a demo bike, in case you happen to be in the area and want to demo it.
- American company and sold through bike shops.
Cons:
- With the 160 mm Bike Yoke Revive dropper post extended to its max in the frame it was about an inch (25.4 mm) too short for me (inseam 34.5” (88 cm)). So if your inseam is > 33.5” (85 cm) get the 185 mm post or consider the XL frame, which has a seat tube length that is 51 mm longer.
- The cockpit ‘felt’ a little cramped despite having a 15 mm longer reach than the Spectral. My height puts me in the L/XL overlap in sizing. My long arms, the steeper 76-degree seat tube angle (Spectral 74.5) and not being able to get the seat to my optimal height almost certainly contributed to this cramped feeling. I would have loved to have taken a ride on an XL but that wasn’t an option.
- At an estimated weight of 34 lbs, it’s on the heavier side.
Canyon Spectral CF 7.0:
Pros:
- The downtube protector/cable management system.
-Price ($$). The direct to consumer format saves money. You get a lot of bike for the money. One of the best values for a trail bike. While we all want the best bike for our budget it comes at the expense of the local bike shop, which does bothers me. 30-day no hassle return policy.
-DT Swiss wheel set. 30 mm internal width. The Ibis S35 wheels are 35 mm internal width.
- Lighter by ~ 4 lbs than the Ripmo AF and ~2 lbs than the carbon Ripmo. Although the Spectral is the same weight as my full suspension XC bike, it feels like it is lighter. Even my wife thought if felt lighter than her mtb, which is also the same weight.
Cons:
- Guide R brakes. I know that SRAM brakes have a slower/squishy feel than the on/off feel of Shimamo brakes, which I prefer. But I have to pull the brake lever in 22 mm before it even starts to brake and almost all the way to my grips to really grab. I’m hoping a brake bleed will help. If not, they are getting replaced.
- If tire pressure, fork sag and compression aren’t adjusted correctly and if I don’t weight the front end a little more than I typically would, it can get loose in fast tight turns. In all fairness, my first two rides were in extremely dry conditions with a lot more leaves on the trail than when I demo’d the Ripmo. I have also read that some people have issues with the tall head tube and suggest lowering the stem. While I feel very comfortable with the stem higher, I will try the lowered stem as it should naturally help weight the front end. After some rain and more tire/fork adjustments, the front end did feel better but not perfect on the tight fast turns. Also, I may switch to the 2.5” Assegai up front instead of the 2.4” Minion DHR II.
- RockShox Super Deluxe Select + only has on/off for the compression. I would prefer more adjustability. I had to lower the sag from the recommended 30% to 35% to get the really plush feel that I desire, which slightly increased the pedal bob. Although, it is still a very good pedaling platform but not as good as the DW Link.
- The dust seals on the Pike forks are a little sticky. I’ll give it some more time to break in. If it doesn’t get better, I’ll install some SKF low friction dust seals.
Both of these bikes are very similar when it comes to geometry, travel, etc. sans the frame material and wheel size. Both bikes are confidence inspiring and fun to ride. If, possible throw a leg over both bikes to find out which fits you best and which one ‘feels’ best to you.
I ended up choosing the Canyon Spectral CF 7.0 for a couple reasons. First, the cramped feel of the Ripmo and extra weight. I could probably make adjustments to the stem length and dropper post to help the fit or possibly go with the XL frame. Also, I could go with the carbon frame Ripmo at an additional $1,200 (for new 2021 model) but the weight would still be ~ 2 lbs heavier. But the biggest reason I choose the Spectral was because on the outlet section of the website they had a slightly used CF 7.0 for nearly $500 off at $3,218. The same price as the Ripmo AF. I had never ridden the bike but had done a ton of research. I had never actually ridden a 27.5 either. I found that all the things they say about 27.5 is true. Easier to get up to speed, playful and tighter turning, although the steeper 66-degree (64.9-degree on the Ripmo) factors into that. The used bikes have the full warranty but they don’t have the 30-day return policy. All sales final.
So there you have it. One old guys long a$$ opinion. No regrets on my purchase…thank God, even though I prefer the DW Link and DVO suspension. Can’t wait to take it down to Northwest Arkansas and to ride the more aggressive trails here in KC. I hope this at least helps one person with their decision.
Let me say thank you. I'm in kc as well, 42 years old and know smithville quite well. I've been wanting input on a local who could size up a ripmo and tell me if they thought it was too much bike for the area. I considered the new Ripley af as well, but figure for my size and weight (6'2", 218 without riding gear) the dvo might serve me better than a fox 34 running higher pressure and spacers.
Bentonville is my go to when I think of how much bike I'd want. I probably don't go for speed as much as an xc guy and the weight is an issue but figure if nothing else it will give me a better workout, which is one of the main reasons I got hooked into mtb. I've never had my ass kicked so hard and smiled so big as a good day on a trail.
So again, thanks for typing out your comment as I greatly appreciated it and please let me know if you think I have some bad misconceptions about what I'm assuming with the ripmo. Thanks for the post kc brother. Maybe I'll see you flying by me on the canyon sometime.
"These are my favourite, Guides!" Hmmm...
I think he says "…aren't my favourites…"
I'd love to see you testing the YT Jeffsy
@ around 8:45, did you make the camera operator run up that hill? Can hear him huffin' and puffin' in the background.
At 2999€ there is the carbon version of the canyon spectral
But at current exchange rates that's 3350 USD. Great price for a carbon bike, but well above the 2899 USD this Canyon is listed at.
Some people prefer alu even at the same price point
@@burnferris Check the actual price on Canyon's website instead of doing conversions, it's $2999.99 (USD) for the Carbon Spectral 7.
@@Jasonmarsh17 man that is so cheap for a carbon bike. Still though, I'd prefer the AL version with better spec at these price points
Reduced price of $2,999 for last year's model...2020 Spectral CF 7 is $3,499
Although I will agree that's a bargain if you can get one before they're sold out.
I liked the point he made about the welding joints of the frame.
false, on the Canyon you CANNOT upgrade the internals of a fox 36 Rhythm Fork, you can only upgrade internals of performance, Performance elite and Factory. To Getter better performance you have to upgrade the whole fork or the lowers and damper etc. hope this helps
This guy is like the bob Ross of mountain bike reviews
Excellent video with good info and you're delivery was superb! I also love my Ripmo AF!
Well I'm going to say is living in Canada that makes it a $4,800 bike I just bought a giant trance 2 and put over 800 kilometres on it this year without any problems riding double black diamonds around 3,000 Canadian my welds look pretty
Ripmo AF Deore is 3100
How would the Ripmo AF be as your single bike to tackle long XC trails to the more gnarly stuff?
William Kerr that’s what I’m wondering as well. I come from the old school hard tail back ground and looking for a modern do it all bike that pedals comfortably and efficiently and has plenty of travel when I need it, and the AF could be that rig even tho it’s pushing 34 lbs. also, I was looking the la Sal peak
RC is one of the most knowledgeable guys in the mountain industry, thanks PB! Just waiting for the ask RC live streams?
Ripmo should be tested vs Canyon Strive... coz Ripmo is 29 long travel bike like Canyon Strive.
Yeah..
The ripmo af is definitely a enduro bike
No Strive AL though, cheapest one starts at $3,700.
@@burddog0792 Ibis starts in my country from $4000 so... Ripmo is cheap only in Canada/USA.
Very well done review. Hopefully we can see more manufacturers follow suit, because I also believe 3k is the sweet spot.
Canyon specs bikes like they're mid-level Yeti's and it's fucking awesome. If I somehow escape the enchantment of Rocky Mountain I will be likely trying Canyon next.
True. My wife loves her Spectral. It's speced just as well as bikes twice the cost. A couple of upgrades here and there, and now it's a solid trail bike ready for anything you can throw at it.
»up to the minute parts« ... reviews a bike coming from 2019 modell series
The rider is standing on the pedals in every video of mountain biking that I have ever seen. So why does the seat tube angle matter?
Centers you on the bike better and makes peddling and climbing more efficient.
Such a nice and composed review. Would love to see you in more Pinkbike videos ✊🏼
Does anyone know where these trails are located?
Good test, explanation and descriptions. It is a shame that it makes it seem as if there are only 2 considerations for this price point & application. It seems many brands are getting in on this market. As one prime example, the alloy Giant Reign 29er 2 is very similar to the Ripmo in dimensions and suspension design, in Canada is about $500 less expensive than the Ripmo and it comes with better brakes and suspension that has a little less adjustment, but also more straight forward from a main-stream brand. I think people should understand that these bikes are submitted (and likely pay money to be included) for these sorts of tests. Due to production and inventory timelines, whether or not a brand appreciates how important these tests are, I'm sure even fear from brands being raked over the coals for stupid reasons all plays into which bikes get tested.
Now this is a true review of bikes, RC is the boss
The Dropper of the Canyon is their own one
I'm sorry, but that Canyon down tube is HIDEOUS! Jesus, what's the point? Fork crown clearance? Ugly AND poorly engineered if you ask me. "Hey Bob, let's put a huge bend and stress riser right where the stresses are highest at the down tube/head tube junction!" Good idea!"
** Oh wait, maybe they already bent it during the test?** Ha, ha, ha!
With 3000 you can buy a canyon spectral cf 7.0
3000€ and in Germany yes.
Hi RC. I am a sixteen year old boy from the United Kingdom, I've designed my own bike, components and all! We know a guy called Paul at Wolff Cycletech who is manufacturing the bike. This bike is a 200r/190f travel bike with a single crown! I've designed my own mech and suspension spring type, my own brakes, bars, etc. All with our brand name; SWAY Mountain! I would love to see it field tested, and were hoping for completion somewhere around summertime this year! Please reply to this comment if that sounds like a plan!
@Richard Cunningham thank you so much for believing in it, and I will do, may I have some cintac5 details for Kazimer?
Show me where i can buy ripmo af under 3k and I’ll buy it.
You would have to order it and wait. The price is $3200 now though with deore as the cheapest part set.
This dude rocks
I’m pushing 53 and RC is my hero!
Fuck aluminum. I think this should be .best carbons bikes for the money.l everybody knows carbon is better.
I think I just found my next bike......a bike for the common folk!
I love the Spectral. Just waiting on a slacker HA and steeper ST. For now, I'll stick with my 2017 Remedy. The geo is practically identical anyway. 😅
I like Mike and Mike, but let’s get more reviews from RC - he’s the man!
FYI aluminum frames cost the bike manufacturers $50-$100
How do you feel about the Marin Alpine Trail 8. Roughly same price range/components. Thanks.
kayyoubify Marin’s are great bike, I was stunned when I got my Hawk Hill. I’d buy another in a second.
They made this bike way too slack with the new model. It’s 64 degree head angle
i was looking at the canyon but after this vid im gonna have to go with the ibis
Me too. Canyon was on my list of 4-5 bikes I had narrowed it down too. But I think I will drop the Canyon from it since the Ibis is also on the list.
Why is nobody talking about the Commencal clash tho?
It's a bit too much of a bike probably? 165/180.
I have it and I love it though :)
@@bgdanail I have one too and I love it
Why doesn't Commencal make anything in the 130/130 that's not an xc bike?
@@chadrides914 meta TR is exactly what you are describing
@@chadrides914 because 130 too small
I'd like to see a comparison between the ripmo af and the nukeproof mega expert
Where are you riding in this video?
Whistler Bike Park. RC mentions it @ 15:15
Best video reviewer ever. Love his voice, delivery and honesty. More please.
What bike would people purchase and why? Lmk?!
What a classy guy and kick ass still!
Lol look at these bumblers, buncha bumbling 40m0s
Unfortunately the Ripmo no longer fits into your $3K category as it now lists for $3400. The Ripley gets you closer to the mark at $3200 but still over $3K.
Thanks RC. Great bikes at realistic price points! Awesome review!
How do they compare to the Trance in that price range ?
Canyon measures STA weird on their chart, like the literal angle between the seat and seat tube. Effective STA looks a little bit steeper. The integrated seat clamp and *full* downtube cover is amazing. The new 2020 model red looks great too.
Still would probably go with the Ibis for suspension, threaded BB, and small components like a Cane Creek 40. Not to mention dealer support and arguably better quality.
Would like to see a 29" Spectral, I don't believe that would step on the high end Strive.
I've been looking at and saving for the spectral for a while now, and it's on sale! I think I will buy it soon
i cant stop replaying the intro
Probably gonna get a Spectral :). OH yeah. for those that are wondering how some people are riding stupid expensive bikes. One of the potential reasons is buying used from "dentists and doctors" JK. but buying used is a great way to get a top tier bike for a fraction of the cost. My newest whip (Devinci Wilson) was 7k new 3 years ago, and I bought it for $1700. A little bit of TLC and refurbishing and that cost was about $2100. which is an absolute bargain.
Invest in a high end frame/suspension, tires, build it up with low end drivetrain parts. After all, suspension and tires are the most important variables we can adjust, while other components youre just paying for weight savings, and often sacrificing durability!
I find it really interesting that people are willing to pay 300 EUR for a cassette that you basically destroy within a year if you ride a lot.
@@lux-3001 yep, or they have to have to latest and greatest, i.e. the SRAM NX Eagle cassette with 500% increase in range was $500 when it came out, now one can pick em up for about $100
exactly. I also find it stupid to buy anything else than a GX derailleur (or the equivalent of other manufacturers) as it is a very exposed part and gets beaten up quite easily.
That Canyon Spectral has nearly identical Geo as the 2017-2019 Norco Sight. I picked up a brand new 2019 CARBON Sight for $2500 USD during Black Friday sale direct from Norco website delivered to my LBS. Came with DVO Topaz/Diamond suspension, Guide T brakes, NX eagle drivetrain, and minions mounted on 29mm internal rims with DT Swiss & Novatec hubs. Just saying there are even better deals to be had if you are patient and look around.
Oh my friend, you may think NX is a compromise but wait till you meet my little friend.... SX EAGLE FROM SRAM! The ultimate in quality and performance in a package anyone can afford! Almost too good to be true! (Disclaimer: it is indeed too good to be true)
i like both of the bikes! only thing putting me off the spectral is the ugly welding.BUT the spectral costs £2400 here in the uk and the ripmo af costs £3150. hard choices.
We need more commentary from RC. Nicely done.
Hi RC why don't You test and Review the new giant Reign 29 2? Is 3000US and the geometry looks great and You can get one just anywhere in the world, Ibis not so easy to get and in most of the times if You Buy a Ibis outside of the US they increase the price very much, but Whit giant i get the exact same price as the US.
The Ripmo AF's cheapest part list now is Shimano deore. Are the Shimano deore 6100 4 piston brakes better than the guide t's?
This Sram Brakes are the biggest shit i ever driven. 3 weeks and i put shimano saint on my Spectral. And from then, it is a fantastic Bike. - I love it.