It’s been 4 months since this video and years since these game exist...yet they haven’t make the secondary on cruiser (mostly German and IJN) able to work.. the Roon in my opinion is way more useful if the single barrels turrets x2 on each side and the smaller forward turret useable . What I really don’t understand is that they were able to make admiral Graf spree use MANUAL secondary with torpedoes... so why not other cruisers. This is what makes me not wanting to grind for IJN ZAO where it have horrible torpedo placement and then 3 turrets on the broad side is also just for show.
There are few ships with three weapon systems - Spee, Gneisenau, Tirpitz... cruisers generally don't get working secondaries if they also have torps. I'm not sure what's behind the decision, maybe keep it simpler? Cycling through the weapons does get you out of zoom mode for the mains, which, especially on quick-firing cruisers, could be a tad annoying. One way to do it would be to make them auto-secondaries, but then they'd have to be in the 100mm range as on the higher-tier BBs in order not to be OP.
@@FunandGameswithTerryhonestly, i think there would be a way, just giving them a reload of like, 5 seconds and 300 damage (he only) wouldn’t be thatttt overpowered
if you go that route, tier 5 and 6 are excellent light cruisers - no armour, but fast, agile and very hard-hitting 150mm AP shells. Stay away from HE on these things, just hit BBs in the front or rear. Tier 7 is an HE spammer, which is very confusing. The Hipper at tier 8 is an excellent brawler (i.e. close-range heavy cruiser), since she's quite sturdy, and packs a punch with the torps. Tier 10 - we'll see when I get there :)
Great video! I need your advice please. I need to choose between the Benson, Gascogne, Gneisenau and Neptune. Which would you go for? I have 300000 to use.
I have neither played Benson nor Gascogne. Gneisenau is a good ship, especially that she leads up to the Bismarck, which is one of the best tier 8 BBs out there imo. Neptune is great fun after Edinburgh. She has a rate of fire that allows you to just spam AP at BBs and actually do something, and enough torps to devastate anything in range. She was probably one of my favourite T9s I've played so far. Sooo, it depends? DD, French BB I have no idea about, T7 BB oddball which takes a bit to get used to, or CL murder machine? Given my personal preference, I'd be going for the latter, but it depends on what you'd like to play :)
I have the Yorck on my port and I really find it as an inferior Cruiser compared to its same tier counterparts. I usually use HE rounds because I find it good enough to incinerate enemy ships and cause damage through fire. Its AP rounds has a very poor penetration and everytime you fire unto enemy BBs especially in the long range you would defenitely bounce off most your shots and gives you zero damage at all. It has a good penetration against DDs and lightly armored cruisers in the game. I'm really glad to see that its succeeding ships of her line are worth it and in terms of armor the Roon would definately manage to survive the early skirmishes and salvos during the first 2-3 minutes of the match and its Range would still pretty help out.
Yorck is an oddball in the line. It's HE is better than the AP unlike most German ships AP hits hard. There is always an oddball ship in many of the ship lines.
@@pain_weaver too bad that the oddball in the German BB line are the top tiers of their line like the Grober Kürfurst and the Friedrich der Grober. I hope that they would buff the tier X Grober Kürfurst and add its triple guns on its turrets , just like in PC.
@@asmrnaturecat984 well it is still a game, and historical accuracy is not a thing in Wargaming as you've already seen with all of their other games like WoT and WoW where they even make up something just to fill in the blanks to make a full line of tech tree. Just like the Roon, it didn't even had any historical blueprints and only existed in the plans and imaginations of the Nazi Party, but still we have her in the game. I'm a fan of German BBs and in my opinion it would really be great to see them have the triple guns mounted rather than the dual guns. The german top tier is currently inferior against its adversaries in the game. (Just my opinion)
Just because this made me giggle: "Grober Kürfurst" in German would translate to the "rough elector", whereas "Grosser Kürfurst" is the "grad elector". That weird letter isn't a b, it's a substitute for a double-s :D The Yorck is actually a pretty good ship - just a very strange one. She's probably the only German ship that has great HE, and meh AP. There's rarely a reason to fire AP in her - light cruiser broadside at 6km, maybe, but otherwise, just stick to HE. The fire chance is excellent. She's a bit sturdier than the tier 6, but not as brawly as tier 8 - yet, the HE shells and the precision skill make her a great HE spammer.
This shi(t)p is the reason I stopped grinding the german cruiser line.. Now going for Moskva with way more fun Might give it a second try though.. Dont know why but this is the 2nd time you gave me hope in a line again so yeah thx a lot for that lol
For someone who has got 1 million xp on the Bismarck, do you think its worth buying the Tirpitz? (Asking for a friend who is totally addicted to the game lol) (joke lol) (with joke i meant the thing in brackets) (the first bracket thing was what i meant in the second bracket thing)
I have both... time for a premium vs tree video :) I love the Tirpitz, the addition of torps makes her an even more capable brawler. She's rather expensive, though - if you're after a tier 8 premium BB that's rather unique, I'd suggest the Richelieu. Then again... ruclips.net/video/gFBqLFSc-LE/видео.html
Tbh When I first had Roon I hated it so much (Like literally hated it that I would criticize it) But now she is actually a beast. She is great against Battleships (If you get a good hit) and is a great dd killer and a ‘torpedo spotter’
She's not that bad. Quite tanky, decently precise at range. Probably the biggest problem for me was the style switch from the Hipper. She can brawl if needed, but she's more at home with kiting.
Guys, no way. WG punishes you until you decide to spend XP for hindy. This is a subT8 ship. Let's cut the crap here. It needs a huge boost from wargaming. They have probably forgotten its existence. I mean, seriously how can a human mind decides that this little ship can be put in a cage with t10 ships? I think it is nonsence . Even a York with 35000HP could do better. Actually York has better guns😳please don't waist your time there.
@@akis510 OR your just bad at the game. Has no idea how to use Roon at all. You should try to practice with roon. I think it is worth the experience and be strategic.
@@lordhaer1896 I am not bad at all. I have been playing this game since March of 2018. I have a wr of 70% with my roon. Probably my best wr. I have every right to believe that excluding premiums roon is the worst t9 cruiser in the game. As I told you it is even worse than hipper.
It increases the chance of turrets getting knocked out. In my mind, it's a policy for the loaders to store propellant in unsafe locations for faster reloads :) Turrets have their own armour, and chances of getting knocked out. Some turrets can take the decrease in reliability quite easily, whereas others will break all the time. The only way to find out really is to try it. You could compensate with another module, but I don't think that's worth it.
That very much depends how you like to play. You can do well and dominate in pretty much all ships in the game, they just have different styles. Battleships are sluggish, high-health & armour, slow-reloading, hard-hitting. Cruisers are firing more rapidly, are more manoeuvrable, but also more vulnerable. Personally, I love playing cruisers, since they're less dependent on support and can usually take on any ship in the game, whereas battleships struggle against destroyers.
Yeah, nah - but when that Monty was showing the rear like that, I just couldn't resist. I knew I could get a couple of shots in before she'd have gun angles at me (and that one salvo did hurt). But don't underestimate German 203mm AP, with the reload module, and knowing where to aim :D
It supposed to be a secondary gun turret. She actually have more of that single mounted 150mm on both side. Although the range is very short it does function as auto secondary in wows PC.
I do that in the Nürnberg from time to time, actually :) Always confuses the heck out of the enemy, seeing me approaching stern-in, at USN BB speeds :D
The roon is actually my least favorite German ship and my least favorite ship in the game. However it's totally worth the grind because once you get the Hindenburg your going love it
A lot of people say that. I have to say, she's growing on me - but I think there's method to the madness. Almost every other tier of German ships is weird. First you get Yorck, which is a total switch from T6, then Hipper, which is a brawler again, then this thing :)
I've been suffering too many lost streak with this Cruiser..its Gun arrangements restricts too much firepower, Engaging Destroyers in close combat are very shitty due to Guns arrangements, unbalanced team....im suffering Hallucinations grinding Hindenburg just by this Piece of Garbage who ever in WG Designed is in Drugs
It’s been 4 months since this video and years since these game exist...yet they haven’t make the secondary on cruiser (mostly German and IJN) able to work.. the Roon in my opinion is way more useful if the single barrels turrets x2 on each side and the smaller forward turret useable . What I really don’t understand is that they were able to make admiral Graf spree use MANUAL secondary with torpedoes... so why not other cruisers. This is what makes me not wanting to grind for IJN ZAO where it have horrible torpedo placement and then 3 turrets on the broad side is also just for show.
There are few ships with three weapon systems - Spee, Gneisenau, Tirpitz... cruisers generally don't get working secondaries if they also have torps. I'm not sure what's behind the decision, maybe keep it simpler? Cycling through the weapons does get you out of zoom mode for the mains, which, especially on quick-firing cruisers, could be a tad annoying. One way to do it would be to make them auto-secondaries, but then they'd have to be in the 100mm range as on the higher-tier BBs in order not to be OP.
@@FunandGameswithTerryhonestly, i think there would be a way, just giving them a reload of like, 5 seconds and 300 damage (he only) wouldn’t be thatttt overpowered
Dont worry it still worth it to get the Hindenburg its a beast its more like a Super Hipper :D
Yeah, I'm quite excited to see the Hindi
@@FunandGameswithTerry Speaking of which, ive not seen a review yet. Will you do one and if so when?
Been lightly grinding german cruisers every once and a while. Got the nurnberg a few days ago, pretty fun!
Yeah, she's a great ship. Very dangerous AP shells.
Awesome content! but till now I haven't grind German cruiser yet.
if you go that route, tier 5 and 6 are excellent light cruisers - no armour, but fast, agile and very hard-hitting 150mm AP shells. Stay away from HE on these things, just hit BBs in the front or rear. Tier 7 is an HE spammer, which is very confusing. The Hipper at tier 8 is an excellent brawler (i.e. close-range heavy cruiser), since she's quite sturdy, and packs a punch with the torps. Tier 10 - we'll see when I get there :)
I'm waiting for the Hindenburg's review. She's more like a battleships
Great video! I need your advice please. I need to choose between the Benson, Gascogne, Gneisenau and Neptune. Which would you go for? I have 300000 to use.
I have neither played Benson nor Gascogne. Gneisenau is a good ship, especially that she leads up to the Bismarck, which is one of the best tier 8 BBs out there imo. Neptune is great fun after Edinburgh. She has a rate of fire that allows you to just spam AP at BBs and actually do something, and enough torps to devastate anything in range. She was probably one of my favourite T9s I've played so far.
Sooo, it depends? DD, French BB I have no idea about, T7 BB oddball which takes a bit to get used to, or CL murder machine? Given my personal preference, I'd be going for the latter, but it depends on what you'd like to play :)
Thanks mate! Neptune it is!
Apprently She never have name and so WG named her “Roon”
They do seem to be reusing names from older ships that aren't in the game for their "fantasy line"
Well, it's 100% worth it to get the Hindenburg. I call it a "Fake battleship because you get so much hard hits against anything.
The Hindi has the same guns, though? Just more of them? Or do they hit differently?
I have the Yorck on my port and I really find it as an inferior Cruiser compared to its same tier counterparts. I usually use HE rounds because I find it good enough to incinerate enemy ships and cause damage through fire. Its AP rounds has a very poor penetration and everytime you fire unto enemy BBs especially in the long range you would defenitely bounce off most your shots and gives you zero damage at all. It has a good penetration against DDs and lightly armored cruisers in the game.
I'm really glad to see that its succeeding ships of her line are worth it and in terms of armor the Roon would definately manage to survive the early skirmishes and salvos during the first 2-3 minutes of the match and its Range would still pretty help out.
Yorck is an oddball in the line. It's HE is better than the AP unlike most German ships AP hits hard. There is always an oddball ship in many of the ship lines.
@@pain_weaver too bad that the oddball in the German BB line are the top tiers of their line like the Grober Kürfurst and the Friedrich der Grober. I hope that they would buff the tier X Grober Kürfurst and add its triple guns on its turrets , just like in PC.
@@thomasdave4435 no it wont, many crybabies will against the triple turrets as they will lose their easy target, i mean its not historically accurate
@@asmrnaturecat984 well it is still a game, and historical accuracy is not a thing in Wargaming as you've already seen with all of their other games like WoT and WoW where they even make up something just to fill in the blanks to make a full line of tech tree. Just like the Roon, it didn't even had any historical blueprints and only existed in the plans and imaginations of the Nazi Party, but still we have her in the game.
I'm a fan of German BBs and in my opinion it would really be great to see them have the triple guns mounted rather than the dual guns. The german top tier is currently inferior against its adversaries in the game. (Just my opinion)
Just because this made me giggle: "Grober Kürfurst" in German would translate to the "rough elector", whereas "Grosser Kürfurst" is the "grad elector". That weird letter isn't a b, it's a substitute for a double-s :D
The Yorck is actually a pretty good ship - just a very strange one. She's probably the only German ship that has great HE, and meh AP. There's rarely a reason to fire AP in her - light cruiser broadside at 6km, maybe, but otherwise, just stick to HE. The fire chance is excellent. She's a bit sturdier than the tier 6, but not as brawly as tier 8 - yet, the HE shells and the precision skill make her a great HE spammer.
Roon is basically a Nurnberg in Heavy cruiser mode, right?
sorta, but with less torp power, because reasons. Also, a lot sturdier :)
This shi(t)p is the reason I stopped grinding the german cruiser line.. Now going for Moskva with way more fun
Might give it a second try though.. Dont know why but this is the 2nd time you gave me hope in a line again so yeah thx a lot for that lol
She's... workable. Haven't played the Soviet heavy cruisers, how's the Donskoi?
For someone who has got 1 million xp on the Bismarck, do you think its worth buying the Tirpitz? (Asking for a friend who is totally addicted to the game lol) (joke lol) (with joke i meant the thing in brackets) (the first bracket thing was what i meant in the second bracket thing)
If your friend is noob minded then go ahead and tell him to buy tirpitz. I will play man and stay with my Bismarck.
I have both... time for a premium vs tree video :)
I love the Tirpitz, the addition of torps makes her an even more capable brawler. She's rather expensive, though - if you're after a tier 8 premium BB that's rather unique, I'd suggest the Richelieu.
Then again... ruclips.net/video/gFBqLFSc-LE/видео.html
@@FunandGameswithTerry i literally watched that yesterday and asked afterwards lol lol
Richelieu is nothing for me though.. Already have the Alabama if i feel like sniping and having AA lol
Tbh When I first had Roon I hated it so much (Like literally hated it that I would criticize it) But now she is actually a beast. She is great against Battleships (If you get a good hit) and is a great dd killer and a ‘torpedo spotter’
She's not that bad. Quite tanky, decently precise at range. Probably the biggest problem for me was the style switch from the Hipper. She can brawl if needed, but she's more at home with kiting.
Guys, no way. WG punishes you until you decide to spend XP for hindy. This is a subT8 ship. Let's cut the crap here. It needs a huge boost from wargaming. They have probably forgotten its existence. I mean, seriously how can a human mind decides that this little ship can be put in a cage with t10 ships? I think it is nonsence . Even a York with 35000HP could do better. Actually York has better guns😳please don't waist your time there.
I would like to know when a roon has to defend against a Cleveland or against an Edinburgh (both t8) or against a kutuzof....
@@akis510 OR your just bad at the game. Has no idea how to use Roon at all. You should try to practice with roon. I think it is worth the experience and be strategic.
@@lordhaer1896 I am not bad at all. I have been playing this game since March of 2018. I have a wr of 70% with my roon. Probably my best wr. I have every right to believe that excluding premiums roon is the worst t9 cruiser in the game. As I told you it is even worse than hipper.
I’m on the Roon grinding for Hindenburg, selecting rapid reload in slot 1, does it reduce strength of turrets -25%, or reduce repair time 25%?
It increases the chance of turrets getting knocked out. In my mind, it's a policy for the loaders to store propellant in unsafe locations for faster reloads :)
Turrets have their own armour, and chances of getting knocked out. Some turrets can take the decrease in reliability quite easily, whereas others will break all the time. The only way to find out really is to try it. You could compensate with another module, but I don't think that's worth it.
which is good battleship or Cruiser.
That very much depends how you like to play. You can do well and dominate in pretty much all ships in the game, they just have different styles. Battleships are sluggish, high-health & armour, slow-reloading, hard-hitting. Cruisers are firing more rapidly, are more manoeuvrable, but also more vulnerable. Personally, I love playing cruisers, since they're less dependent on support and can usually take on any ship in the game, whereas battleships struggle against destroyers.
Don’t expect to be able to brawl with a top 100 player in a Teir 10 BB like that! It will end badly for the Roon.
Yeah, nah - but when that Monty was showing the rear like that, I just couldn't resist. I knew I could get a couple of shots in before she'd have gun angles at me (and that one salvo did hurt). But don't underestimate German 203mm AP, with the reload module, and knowing where to aim :D
Why does the roon have a smaller twin turret on the front that does nothing?
David Cameron it’s the anti aircraft guns.
It supposed to be a secondary gun turret. She actually have more of that single mounted 150mm on both side. Although the range is very short it does function as auto secondary in wows PC.
WG really needs to make those auto secondaries
I don't think any CA gets auto-secondaries. Given that the Roon never existed (not even on paper), I guess it's ... for decoration?
Fun and games with Terry check out the premium T9 Siegfried. It gets Auto secondaries
The b turret looks like a secondary, but a large aa...
You should "Roon" from this ship :)
I was born to Roon.
es una rama muy divertida los cruseros alemanes yo tengo el 7 y me dvierto mucho . Gracias por el video.
Me encantan los barcos alemanes en general, coinciden con mi estilo de juego agresivo
I'm up to the nuremburg and I love it
Can you review the Maya?
I'll put it on the backlog, will check in the press account.
The trick to the Roon is to go backwards.
I do that in the Nürnberg from time to time, actually :) Always confuses the heck out of the enemy, seeing me approaching stern-in, at USN BB speeds :D
is this still accurate?
Roon the Giant Nürnberg
Demon Eyes I play the roon like the nurnberg
If only she had the same torpedo power as the tier 6
The Hindenburg has the toro power again, but the battles are so far apart they they are virtually useless.
Good
The roon is actually my least favorite German ship and my least favorite ship in the game. However it's totally worth the grind because once you get the Hindenburg your going love it
A lot of people say that. I have to say, she's growing on me - but I think there's method to the madness. Almost every other tier of German ships is weird. First you get Yorck, which is a total switch from T6, then Hipper, which is a brawler again, then this thing :)
I've been suffering too many lost streak with this Cruiser..its Gun arrangements restricts too much firepower, Engaging Destroyers in close combat are very shitty due to Guns arrangements, unbalanced team....im suffering Hallucinations grinding Hindenburg just by this Piece of Garbage who ever in WG Designed is in Drugs
I hate this cruiser..low AA and Awkward set of Guns...its like Nurnberg of tier9
Ships to skip: izumo , roon
I have yet to experience the Izumo, but I've heard stories. Challenge.... tentatively accepted :)
I want to get to the Yamato, but I want to save up free xp, I keep losing my interest in the Fusõ.
@@Shadow-sq2yj fuso and nagato are the highlights of the line besides yamato
Just dont push too much or too early the armor is bad but guns great
@@dudditz do you think I should continue that line? Is it worth it?(I'm going there either way after SinOP)
@@Shadow-sq2yj definitely worth it