The humor in here was natural, not forced, almost subtle... and extremely funny because of that! Great pistol great video! Btw, those 3 dislikes were probably .40 owners.
Having smaller hands and wrists, I had thought a 10mm might be too much for me - not this Tanfoglio!! LOVE IT! Great shooting, very little whip back and smooth trigger action!
I literally was wondering how it shot, no one talks about recoil as compared to a 9 or something... I’ve never shot a 10 but I’m about to buy one... the problem is I can only buy it online.
You really gotta have some strong Google-fu to find a decent price on this, right now. Right before the Covid, this gun was going for $750 in a lot of places. Just think of it as an investment as you let your wallet cool off...
I had forgotten this video was still posted! It's one of my early videos and poorly done. Here is a link to a more updated group of 10mm's to choose from. ruclips.net/video/WBsZw7Q3u8c/видео.html
Hello, Received my Mec-Gar mags in the mail today. Noticed they are a bit sticky and do not drop free easily (like Original mag that came with pistol) when releasing them from the magwell. Did yours act the same way? Also, Do you happen to know of a Baseplate that is available to add 1 or 2 rounds to these mags? Would like to find some with a pinky rest if possible as well. Thanks for the reviews!
Didn't run into that problem with the magazines I bought. Then again, you might have run across a bad batch. I've never really looked into the baseplate thing, so, I'm not much help there either.
I just bought several MecGars from Greg Cote for my new Match, and they are all identical to the stock mag, right down to being stamped "K10" on the side. They only lack the "FT - Made in Italy" stamp on the stock one. All load and drop smoothly. The Henning baseplate supposedly adds +5 capacity, to get you up to 19+1. But I don't have it yet. Brace yourself before you check their prices, though.
Have one, (10 MM) LOVE IT! Perfect reliability and awesome ergos. Underwood Nosler hollowpoints all the way for bipedal hyenas. It's my new primary CCW, and I plan to buy another. No tritium sights yet but they can be custom built. Until then I have a fiber optic front, and a micro Lasermax pulse laser, plan an ambi safety as well (EAA has them) Use a Glock loading tool to get the 14th round in the new mag, then you can manually load them (break in tip)
I'm looking at the Hiviz CZ75 Lightwave-H3 tritium-fiber optic sights for my Match. But I am still seeking confirmation those will work. The Glock 20 ones are awesome.
Mine shoots even better than it looks and it's a .40. For some reason mine has a better trigger than my buddies Match and even better than his limited. These guns are the best value in the shooting world.
I've wanted a 10MM since I first read about the Bren Ten. Does the Tangfolio come in longer barrel lengths than a standard CZ? How does barrel length effect felt recoil and accuracy?
Yes, Tanfoglio makes a hunter model with a 6" barrel - excellent pistol by the way. I've shot the hunter model and recoil was about like a .45acp (+P), very smooth. The longer 10mm barrel will also give you a slight increase in projectile velocity. (+100-150 more FPS)
Tanfoglio also offers their Xtreme Match 6inch version of this same gun. That would give you the same beauty as this but in a long slide. And it would only set you back ~$1700-$2000. 😁 I think I would rather go with the Elite Match now, and then take my time trying to track down a long slide upper for it later.
I enjoy your channel. Can't get enough of the 10mm videos. Also glad you are still on speaking terms with your oldest. Questions...would you trust this pistol with your life? How do you rate it with the Sig 220 elite 10mm? I know the price difference but what about dependability and overall handling?
I've carried the Elite Match with me into BIG bear country on numerous occasions. It's round capacity is nearly double that of my P220. Therefore, I suppose you could say I trust its dependability enough to stake my life on it. Both pistols handle extremely well and are top choices if you're looking to get into a 10mm. When it comes down to round capacity, this Tanfoglio Elite Match does have the edge over the P220.
kirk erickson I ordered my conversion kit in 45acp the same time I ordered the pistol through my FFL dealer, several years ago. They are still available directly from European American Armory (EAA) on their website. Get ready for some sticker shock! EAA's pricing on these has tripled since purchasing mine. You would paying 85% of the price of a NEW gun! Just not worth it.
I have a eaa match combat sport , years ago had a AMT in 10 mm. I have to agree with you .The eaa match is a sweet pistol to shoot. Did you upgrade your springs?If so how heavy?
I just ordered one of these. I have been looking at other videos on this pistol and most say they have upgraded their recoil springs to 22lbs. Do you think this is necessary?
I recently purchased the Elite Match in 10mm and absolutely love it! Two questions: I would also like to shoot 9mm and .22 on this platform...is the most cost effective way to acquire both of those additional slides to just buy a steel 9mm/.22 Combo DA witness? The slides should all interchange without issue, correct? Also do you recommend any source for good grips for this gun? Thank you for all of your fantastic 10mm reviews!
Going with the separate combo would likely be less expensive. Check with EAA concerning slide compatibility. Not many places sell aftermarket grips for Tanfoglio pistols - try henningshop.com/
Not to be a pain in the ass but the G in Tanfoglio is silent, or so I'm told by my roommate who is from Italy. Awesome pistols all around though, you'd be hard pressed to find something better for the money.
All of my 10mm's have been calibrated to fire nothing but full power rounds. What's the point of owning a 10mm if all you're going to shoot is 40 S&W class ammo.
I think 44 should be minimum for large bears. Black bears the 10mm is fine. I have taken a 400lb black bear and a 700lb elk no problem. A tough bullet in the right place will do the job.
I hear Eskimos have shot polar bears with the 10mm loaded with hot hard-cast bullets. A lot of your intended target requires some cautious and decisive ammo selection, as well as recommended testing verifying its performance.
So is the "i" in Giovanni, but who cares around here. Very nice presentation. None of the usual "Jo wasup" BS for an intro. I'd love to have one of those EAA WEM 10mm guns and being retired and on a short string, I'm saving up for one. My range so far goes from 22 over 9 to 45mm. A 10mm would be great!
Hello, As always another great video. I believe you own this 10mm in polymer also. Any major differences in reliability and / or shooting characteristics? Thanks & Stay Well Mark
Yes, both are extremely reliable. The exception is, the Elite Match is a finely tuned single action only custom shop model geared more for competition & sport shooting. The polymer model, with its double action capability, falls more in line with what one would want in a hard hitting, all around, duty sidearm.
Coupla more things.. these guns come with SHARP edges.. I used 2000 grit sandpaper (auto paint shops have it) to hand butter all edges. This did not mar the silver finish at all. The other thing is buy ONLY the new all black (black poly follower) mags, never the old red follower mags. Midway and CDNN have them, CDNN having the best shipping rate. I just bought 12 more mags so I can eventually have a complete, cached spare Witness 10mm, ready to deploy. Handloader here so a huge can of high velocity HP ammo will be put away with it
Here is where I bought mine. gregcotellc.com/cart/eaa-witness-mecgar-magazines-c-134/eaa-witness-tanfoglio-10mm-14-rd-large-frame-mgwit10lfafc-p-1668.html
1) The poster below is correct, it is actually pronounced "Tanfolio" in Italian (one of 2 languages I speak in addition to English) but who cares?? 2) I have had about 70 service contacts with EAA (I am a FFL) and their customer service just plain sucks. 3) To educate you on bear defense, from someone who lives in brown bear and grizzly country and has actually had encounters with dangerous great bears, and according to the stats kept by the Alaska State Troopers, bear spray is 92% effective in preventing human deaths from dangerous bears; Handguns in 10mm/44M/500 S&W about 42%, and large bore rifles (458/45-70) are about 84%, and 12G shottys with slugs 85%. So if you really do not want to become bear scat, carry the bear spray and prey you are in the 92%. Have the 10mm in case the spray is not effective, but looking at actual effectiveness it is clearly SPRAY > Shotgun >= Rifle > Pistol. Just as your sidearm should be a backup to your long gun, the long gun should be a backup to the bear spray if you want to maximize your chance of survival. 4) The Witness's are very good, high quality guns from a company with terrible customer service, and I own one in 10mm and 40, and love them both. Nice review, keep them coming!
+The Forest This might be a silly question, but what made you want those two calibers when they have similar cavity damage ? I have a .40 for less recoil and carry, the 10's for are for full power and only large guns , I still want the 6 inch witness hunter for the 6 inch barely and slightly increased velocity.
The pro-bear spray studies have been largely skewed and misleading. They count incidents where the bears came right back as somehow being successful stops, as well as incidents in which bears were just in the area and curious but never really attacked. The gun part of the studies have been flawed for omitting large numbers of self-defense-against-bear incidents, since those stats went to a different government agency. When corrected, bear spray effectiveness against aggressive bears drops to between 33 and 44%, while handgun effectivess rises to 95+%. www.outsideonline.com/2401248/does-bear-spray-work Handguns: 97% effective www.ammoland.com/2018/02/defense-against-bears-with-pistols-97-success-rate-37-incidents-by-caliber/#axzz6fy6A7xJt Handguns: 96% effective www.ammoland.com/2019/08/handgun-or-pistol-defense-against-bear-attack-73-cases-96-effective/#axzz6fy6A7xJt The last study found that, in 44 out of 44 incidents (100%) where a larger bore handgun (.40S&W and above) was used, the handgun proved effective in stopping the bear.
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I've had mine for five years now, 10mm Auto. Love the gun, love that full-power cartridge.
Great job
Thanks!
Your commentary about "bear spray" had me rolling!!! LOL!!!!
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The humor in here was natural, not forced, almost subtle... and extremely funny because of that! Great pistol great video!
Btw, those 3 dislikes were probably .40 owners.
Thanks Cee Dee.
Having smaller hands and wrists, I had thought a 10mm might be too much for me - not this Tanfoglio!! LOVE IT! Great shooting, very little whip back and smooth trigger action!
I literally was wondering how it shot, no one talks about recoil as compared to a 9 or something... I’ve never shot a 10 but I’m about to buy one... the problem is I can only buy it online.
Damn good guy
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This must be an older video. I can not find one in the 6 to 700 range.
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Just got one identical to the video otd for 995
You really gotta have some strong Google-fu to find a decent price on this, right now. Right before the Covid, this gun was going for $750 in a lot of places.
Just think of it as an investment as you let your wallet cool off...
Just bought it thanks for the review 🤘🏾Peace from Illinois ✌🏾
You are really going to like it.
Today is the first time I saw this video, had no idea this firearm existed. But now I will need to own one this year.Thank you!
Excellent handgun for the money. Highly recommended.
Great review Sir! I really like your sense of humor. I've been considering a 10mm for a while now.
I had forgotten this video was still posted! It's one of my early videos and poorly done. Here is a link to a more updated group of 10mm's to choose from. ruclips.net/video/WBsZw7Q3u8c/видео.html
Icarryone do they make it double action
and now 10mm ammo is some of the cheapest ammo around, and boy are we loving it ritnow!!!
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Hello,
Received my Mec-Gar mags in the mail today.
Noticed they are a bit sticky and do not drop free easily (like Original mag that came with pistol) when releasing them from the magwell.
Did yours act the same way?
Also,
Do you happen to know of a Baseplate that is available to add 1 or 2 rounds to these mags? Would like to find some with a pinky rest if possible as well.
Thanks for the reviews!
Didn't run into that problem with the magazines I bought. Then again, you might have run across a bad batch. I've never really looked into the baseplate thing, so, I'm not much help there either.
I just bought several MecGars from Greg Cote for my new Match, and they are all identical to the stock mag, right down to being stamped "K10" on the side. They only lack the "FT - Made in Italy" stamp on the stock one. All load and drop smoothly.
The Henning baseplate supposedly adds +5 capacity, to get you up to 19+1. But I don't have it yet. Brace yourself before you check their prices, though.
Did a follow up after watching your 2018 10MM video. Thanks for the information! 👍🏻
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Great looking pistol
Sure is! And it shoots as good as it looks!
Fine review of a very nice 10mm semi-auto scat repellant defense pistol.
Thanks Jeffery.
Haha ! that first steel plate when flying , got to love the 10mm . Great review thanks .
The 10mm round does hit hard and tends to send things flying.
Any recommendations for a holster for this pistol?
A friend of mine made one for me.
Have one, (10 MM) LOVE IT! Perfect reliability and awesome ergos. Underwood Nosler hollowpoints all the way for bipedal hyenas. It's my new primary CCW, and I plan to buy another. No tritium sights yet but they can be custom built. Until then I have a fiber optic front, and a micro Lasermax pulse laser, plan an ambi safety as well (EAA has them) Use a Glock loading tool to get the 14th round in the new mag, then you can manually load them (break in tip)
I'm looking at the Hiviz CZ75 Lightwave-H3 tritium-fiber optic sights for my Match. But I am still seeking confirmation those will work.
The Glock 20 ones are awesome.
Great review
Mrbeanutube Thank you.
What recoil spring would you recommend for the Tanfoglio Witness Full Size Steel Frame 10mm with Buffalo Bore 220grn rounds?
20 lb.
@@Icarryone thank you from Alaska
Love your eaa 10mm. The full size all steel frame feels great with guys with big hands. I have an eaa 38super and really like it.
I'm loving this Elite match in 10mm.
great review
+Michael Mendez Thanks Michael.
Your Welcome
Im a gunman of 40 + years. I agree w/ this Gentleman.. One of the finer pistols.
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Mine shoots even better than it looks and it's a .40. For some reason mine has a better trigger than my buddies Match and even better than his limited. These guns are the best value in the shooting world.
Mine is light but solid, too. I've seen some people's triggers wobble side to side, but mine tracks straight back and forth with no wobble at all.
I prefer my P220 Elite over this by far!
Personal preferences are always allowed.
Yeah if you like single stacks 💀
Wow you shoot really good
wyatt hughey Thank you Wyatt.
I've wanted a 10MM since I first read about the Bren Ten. Does the Tangfolio come in longer barrel lengths than a standard CZ? How does barrel length effect felt recoil and accuracy?
Yes, Tanfoglio makes a hunter model with a 6" barrel - excellent pistol by the way. I've shot the hunter model and recoil was about like a .45acp (+P), very smooth. The longer 10mm barrel will also give you a slight increase in projectile velocity. (+100-150 more FPS)
Tanfoglio also offers their Xtreme Match 6inch version of this same gun. That would give you the same beauty as this but in a long slide. And it would only set you back ~$1700-$2000. 😁
I think I would rather go with the Elite Match now, and then take my time trying to track down a long slide upper for it later.
Really love mine.
gonad ballcrusher Me too! Several buddies have shot it and now they want one.
I enjoy your channel. Can't get enough of the 10mm videos. Also glad you are still on speaking terms with your oldest. Questions...would you trust this pistol with your life? How do you rate it with the Sig 220 elite 10mm? I know the price difference but what about dependability and overall handling?
I've carried the Elite Match with me into BIG bear country on numerous occasions. It's round capacity is nearly double that of my P220. Therefore, I suppose you could say I trust its dependability enough to stake my life on it. Both pistols handle extremely well and are top choices if you're looking to get into a 10mm. When it comes down to round capacity, this Tanfoglio Elite Match does have the edge over the P220.
Where did you buy the conversation kit? I can't seem to find one.
kirk erickson I ordered my conversion kit in 45acp the same time I ordered the pistol through my FFL dealer, several years ago. They are still available directly from European American Armory (EAA) on their website. Get ready for some sticker shock! EAA's pricing on these has tripled since purchasing mine. You would paying 85% of the price of a NEW gun! Just not worth it.
I have a eaa match combat sport , years ago had a AMT in 10 mm. I have to agree with you .The eaa match is a sweet pistol to shoot. Did you upgrade your springs?If so how heavy?
Yes, I'm running a 20lb in it now.
How easily did your 45 match slide go on. I had to custom fit mine to the 10mm frame. It didnt just go right on.
Both slides fit perfectly. Didn't experience any issues at all.
Hello,
Do you happen to know what fiber optic front site will work with this pistol?
I do not care for the standard one.
I purchased the fiber optic front sight through EAA's website.
Would you know ..? Do these guns in 45 ACP come with 2 mags NEW ?
It should - this one did.
I just ordered one of these. I have been looking at other videos on this pistol and most say they have upgraded their recoil springs to 22lbs. Do you think this is necessary?
I think it's a wise idea since the current trend is moving toward the higher velocity full power ammunition.
I recently purchased the Elite Match in 10mm and absolutely love it! Two questions: I would also like to shoot 9mm and .22 on this platform...is the most cost effective way to acquire both of those additional slides to just buy a steel 9mm/.22 Combo DA witness? The slides should all interchange without issue, correct? Also do you recommend any source for good grips for this gun? Thank you for all of your fantastic 10mm reviews!
Going with the separate combo would likely be less expensive. Check with EAA concerning slide compatibility. Not many places sell aftermarket grips for Tanfoglio pistols - try henningshop.com/
Icarryone which 9/22 slide combo are you fellas referring to?
The conversion slides for some models of Tanfoglio handguns are available on EEA's website.
The ability to slap any light on it makes this better camp gun to me than Rock Island's double stack.
If you require or prefer having a rail on your handgun, then this would be the better choice.
Not to be a pain in the ass but the G in Tanfoglio is silent, or so I'm told by my roommate who is from Italy. Awesome pistols all around though, you'd be hard pressed to find something better for the money.
Have you had luck shooting the full power 10mm loads through this handgun? Underwood, georgia arms, double tap ext ?
All of my 10mm's have been calibrated to fire nothing but full power rounds. What's the point of owning a 10mm if all you're going to shoot is 40 S&W class ammo.
I hear that!
zeroxwolfx yep I shot the 155 grain from Underwood and also the 180 grain works fine.
How does this CZ style 10mm shoot compared to 1911?
That would mostly depend on which 1911 and who is shooting it. I can manage to shoot both reasonably well.
This one shoots twice as much between reloads. I guess that makes it...twice as good? Lol
I just ordered a new P Match Pro in 10mm. I won't be sleeping well until it arrives.
Let me know how you like it Carlton.
(Tangfolio;
The G is silent)
This is America, it has the right to remain silent. 👍😉
I'm thinking the eaa 10mm elite with the Novak sights over the glock 20
Before deciding, check out my video "Top 10mm Picks for 2016."
+Icarryone thank u. I'm very familiar with the glock pistols but want a better built gun for 10mm
In my book, bears = .44 magnum or higher power. Bear spray would be my plan b, but I would try it first. I wouldn't use a ten mil unless I had too.
I think 44 should be minimum for large bears. Black bears the 10mm is fine. I have taken a 400lb black bear and a 700lb elk no problem. A tough bullet in the right place will do the job.
I hear Eskimos have shot polar bears with the 10mm loaded with hot hard-cast bullets. A lot of your intended target requires some cautious and decisive ammo selection, as well as recommended testing verifying its performance.
So is the "i" in Giovanni, but who cares around here. Very nice presentation. None of the usual "Jo wasup" BS for an intro. I'd love to have one of those EAA WEM 10mm guns and being retired and on a short string, I'm saving up for one. My range so far goes from 22 over 9 to 45mm. A 10mm would be great!
flwolf2000 If you do decide to get one, you'll be more than pleased with it
Hello, As always another great video. I believe you own this 10mm in polymer also. Any major differences in reliability and / or shooting characteristics? Thanks & Stay Well Mark
Yes, both are extremely reliable. The exception is, the Elite Match is a finely tuned single action only custom shop model geared more for competition & sport shooting. The polymer model, with its double action capability, falls more in line with what one would want in a hard hitting, all around, duty sidearm.
Coupla more things.. these guns come with SHARP edges.. I used 2000 grit sandpaper (auto paint shops have it) to hand butter all edges. This did not mar the silver finish at all. The other thing is buy ONLY the new all black (black poly follower) mags, never the old red follower mags. Midway and CDNN have them, CDNN having the best shipping rate. I just bought 12 more mags so I can eventually have a complete, cached spare Witness 10mm, ready to deploy. Handloader here so a huge can of high velocity HP ammo will be put away with it
president perfict carry one for self defense you are and family have nice day"
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Do you happen to know what mags will work/function for this pistol?
I just purchased one of these Gems!
Here is where I bought mine. gregcotellc.com/cart/eaa-witness-mecgar-magazines-c-134/eaa-witness-tanfoglio-10mm-14-rd-large-frame-mgwit10lfafc-p-1668.html
@@Icarryone Thank You Sir!
1) The poster below is correct, it is actually pronounced "Tanfolio" in Italian (one of 2 languages I speak in addition to English) but who cares?? 2) I have had about 70 service contacts with EAA (I am a FFL) and their customer service just plain sucks. 3) To educate you on bear defense, from someone who lives in brown bear and grizzly country and has actually had encounters with dangerous great bears, and according to the stats kept by the Alaska State Troopers, bear spray is 92% effective in preventing human deaths from dangerous bears; Handguns in 10mm/44M/500 S&W about 42%, and large bore rifles (458/45-70) are about 84%, and 12G shottys with slugs 85%. So if you really do not want to become bear scat, carry the bear spray and prey you are in the 92%. Have the 10mm in case the spray is not effective, but looking at actual effectiveness it is clearly SPRAY > Shotgun >= Rifle > Pistol. Just as your sidearm should be a backup to your long gun, the long gun should be a backup to the bear spray if you want to maximize your chance of survival. 4) The Witness's are very good, high quality guns from a company with terrible customer service, and I own one in 10mm and 40, and love them both.
Nice review, keep them coming!
+The Forest This might be a silly question, but what made you want those two calibers when they have similar cavity damage ? I have a .40 for less recoil and carry, the 10's for are for full power and only large guns , I still want the 6 inch witness hunter for the 6 inch barely and slightly increased velocity.
Great comment friend, informative, educated and on-point.
What do they say about stats? I'll take the gun and give the spray to my wife....
The pro-bear spray studies have been largely skewed and misleading. They count incidents where the bears came right back as somehow being successful stops, as well as incidents in which bears were just in the area and curious but never really attacked. The gun part of the studies have been flawed for omitting large numbers of self-defense-against-bear incidents, since those stats went to a different government agency. When corrected, bear spray effectiveness against aggressive bears drops to between 33 and 44%, while handgun effectivess rises to 95+%.
www.outsideonline.com/2401248/does-bear-spray-work
Handguns: 97% effective
www.ammoland.com/2018/02/defense-against-bears-with-pistols-97-success-rate-37-incidents-by-caliber/#axzz6fy6A7xJt
Handguns: 96% effective
www.ammoland.com/2019/08/handgun-or-pistol-defense-against-bear-attack-73-cases-96-effective/#axzz6fy6A7xJt
The last study found that, in 44 out of 44 incidents (100%) where a larger bore handgun (.40S&W and above) was used, the handgun proved effective in stopping the bear.
That second round look like it almost got away from you.
Looks are often deceiving.
Icarryone I fired a hot .40 one handed on the weak hand one of and damn near turned my wrist.
did that guy tell you to slow down? what a shame
He was actually talking to his son in the background.
+Icarryone oh that's good. I was like why he's hitting them haha
I have found my soulmate! I am in love and if I could marry a gun, she would be my bride! My sexy lover! I can't live without you! XOXOXO
In my opinion, the Elite Match is the finest CZ variant currently on the market.