3 Reasons Why I'll NEVER Buy the Aprilia Tuareg 660
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- Опубликовано: 7 ноя 2024
- Here are my answers to common questions recently asked on the channel including why I am not interested in the Aprilia Tuareg 660, how a steering damper can help your riding, choosing between the KTM 690 Enduro and KTM 500 EXC-F and some mot camping tips!
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What are your thoughts on the Aprilia Tuareg? KTM 500 vs 690 Enduro?👇
Ktm 500 vibrates like a paint shaker. One hour of motorway on that bike and I would lose all will to ride. The new 690 is supposed to be very smooth for a single so those highway miles should be ok, not fun, but not insufferable either, choose your fairing well if going the rally kit way. That being said, the 690 with its long rake angle is a great bike to go straight and fast, as you would in a rally (what it was designed for). I personnally never really loved that geometry on my 701. I like a more nimble bike as a dual-sport for riding trails. I don't think a 690 is that much of an improvement off-road over a 790 as you're not gaining that much on the off-road front and losing a lot in comfort. I think KTM cannibalized the 690 market with how excellent they made the 790/890 platform. As a single bike solution for someone who likes to ride fast off-road for distance, the 690 is the best. If you already have a 790/890 and want a bike to enjoy more technical off-roading but need to do an hour of highway you could look at the CRF450L or endure the vibrations of the 500 (I would personally go with the 350).
Love the content keep'em coming.
Guillaume from Canada
@@gxm164 thanks for the feedback! They don’t sell that Honda here in Aus which sucks! But I’ll look into the 350 a bit more too 👍
maybe this will help, I own both a 2020 690 SMC-R and a Husqy FE350 (yes, it's a smaller engine than the 500 but it is comparable I think in terms of vibrations and overall feel). While the 690 is not particularly a good bike for highways (also quite bad it it's own right honestly), the enduro is just atrocious, I recently had to do a 20-30 km strech of pavement on it and hated every second of it.
I personally have to agree with @ADVeristy's opinion, the 890 is probably almost as good as the 690 in most scenarios offroad, I am actually looking at buying the new model.
I had an excf for while for pure single track. No way that I would do 30-45 minutes of pavement on the excf to hit dirt. I have a husky 701 which is perfect for that task. It’s great in jeep roads and easier single track. I love the excf 350 and 500 but not for road work.
@@pjalexandre yep, my worry exactly.
1. He things it’s ugly, 2. Lack of dealer network, 3. He doesn’t like Aprilia. There, saved your time.
Thanks
Stupid video lmao
You’re doing the lords work. Thank you!
Thank you! Poor reasons mostly...
Thank you 👍
Calling the Aprilia ugly when you’re riding that KTM is a bit audacious. The Tuareg looks like a King Cobra while the KTM looks the head of a praying mantis. I think the KTM 790 was certainly more polarizing than the Tuareg when it first came out. And they really haven’t gotten better looking even with the 890s, people are just used to seeing them everywhere because they’re a fantastic motorcycle even if they look a bit goofy.
Oh I agree with you - I even said so in the video! 🤣 it’s personal taste, I think both bikes have a striking design that is LOVE or HATE. Which is highlighted by this conversation 🤣 I’m just happy we have more and more adv bikes in the market :)
Tuareg's a great looking bike, deserves adv bike of the year in my book! But to each his own...happy riding!
@@TheMotoBarista Agreed! It’s getting harder to be in monogamous relationship with one ADV bike. Polygamy it is!
@@lazy-pilot absolutely 🤣
I think the Tuareg does look better in the flesh, than in photos. I think people will get used to it. I think it is a 'grower'.
I Lost 6 minutes of my life watching this video. I don't like the Aprilia because is an Aprilia. 🤣
Why would I buy a bike from a company that has done nothing recently for the adv/off-road community or culture and is now just jumping in to get a slice of the pie? If I’m spending big $$$ on a motorcycle, there is more to the equation than the bike itself. To be honest I never wanted to make a video talking about the Aprilia, it was never even on my radar, but in a previous video I had ALOT of comments asking why I wasn’t interested in it - this was just an honest, personal answer.
@@TheMotoBarista did you do a test drive on Tuareg 660? The Lamborghini was a tractor factory no experience in super car.
@@SicilianinUSA they only arrived in my state last week, so hoping to get on one soon. Only a single, small dealer though so stock is an issue.
I wasted my 6 minutes of my life too
@@TheMotoBarista Rick Gill motorcycles ain’t no small dealer click bait boy.
I own both KTM and Aprilia… sorry but the aprilia wins hands down every time. This vlogger shouldn’t be vlogging tbh
It is great you know so much about it when you have not ridden it.
660 is a very good looking, capable and comfy middleweight adventure bike- go see it in person people
I blows my mind that anyone would actually ask for your advice
Are you serious? Your three reasons are 1. it's ugly, 2. There's no dealer near you and 3. You don't want an Aprilia? Hold on, stop the presses! Aprilia got something to think about right there.. I just test-rode one last night and compared to my KTM 950 Adventure which I love, the Tuareg offers something completely different. It won't spin the rear wheel in 130 km/h, but it offers a lot of other things such as way superior asphalt performance, changing riding program on the fly without stopping turning off the abs on the rear, suuuper smooth power delivery from 50 km/ even in 6th gear. Riding the smaller TET trails, the Tuareg would be an absolute weapon. Compared to the KTM 890 or 790, it's a lot cheaper and won't kill your wallet by destroying your tires... :) It impressed me a lot more than the 660 RS and Tuono.
Why express this kind of kind of preference when you haven't even tested it? Why should the riding public care what the Moto Barista "likes" or "doesn't like" based on what little reasons he shares here?
If you want to fast forward and get to the point (if you can even call it the point) skip to 3 minutes instead of watching this gap tooth waffle on for 3 minutes. 😂
I recently bought one. So far I love it. I wish the seat were a little lower, but it is manageable. It has the right size engine, and I like the weight, or rather the lack thereof. But the one thing that won me over was the tubeless tires. I spent over 20 years riding Kawasaki KLR650s. I had 2-3 flats a year. I put aftermarket centerstands on my KLR650s because I knew that fixing flat tires was going to be a major part of riding one. But I'm a bit older now, and I no longer feel like having to take the bike apart to fix a flat tire. And it has been my experience on street bikes that not only are flat tires 10 times harder to fix on a bike with tube type tires, but you are also about 10 times more likely to HAVE a flat on a bike wit tube type tires. I no longer have to deal with that anymore, and I am very happy about that. Now I can just ride and not spend half my time fixing flat tires. As for how it looks, no dual sport or adventure bike is going to win any beauty contests, But I love the red, white, and blue paint scheme, and the fact that it does not have a lot of flat black on it. I love the non black wheels. The Tenere 700 not only has tube type tires, and an exhaust bracket that is part of the frame, and will likely seriously damage the frame if it is dropped on the right side, but it is one of the UGLIEST bikes I've ever seen.
Booo, I’ve owned 6 aprilias. They are amazing bikes when you dial them in. I do get the anxiety about the lack of dealers. Also a KTM 790/890 owner calling the tuareg ugly is kinda funny 😂 Maybe riding a Tuareg will change your mind… btw I have build myself a 701 rally and its bloody brilliant. It works great on the highway, I used it for commuting for a few months. 1 hour on the highway every day without any problems and its super economical on fuel too! Same as you I don’t own a van/trailer and have to travel to the trails and the 690 is a great do it all bike. Works on the road and rules off-road
Haha thanks mate! It’s nice when someone who doesn’t agree with opinions knows how to have a laugh about it and find common ground! No doubt the Aprilia is great, I have heard great things about the sports bike but never been interested in the sport bike world. Awesome to hear about your experiences with the 690/701 platform. That does sound like the riding I would be doing! Cheers 🤙🤙🤙
The Tuareg dealer where I live said to me that I would struggle with dealer network and he was pretty adamant about this.
Living where I do, there's not a single Aprilia dealer within at least 1000km from my home, so I would never consider buying one either.
Yep, sometimes it’s more than just the bike itself to gain the trust of customers!
Never ridden the bike and dissing it? Thumbs down and block
Where did I diss it?
@@TheMotoBarista the title of the post mate, your are a click bait wanker
Lots of people here speak without even tried a Tuareg... useless considerations...today every one can be a tester on RUclips
Huh? My reasons have nothing to do with how excellent the bike is? I bike can be great to ride but still have a key issues that lead someone not to own one.
Like someone already said this video gives you nothing but tastes about aesthetic and very beautiful videos in which the tuareg seems awesome.
I have just returned from a 3 day adventure riding with my 450 exc six days included 250 km of highway returning home with a total of 900 km .
It is not a highway bike but it is manageable. I have changed the seat of course and added an acerbis 15lt fuel tank.
Maintenance wise oil changes every 15-20 hours and valves adjusting every 50-60 hours depending on use.
It’s comments like this that have me one step closer to my dealer 🤣🤣🤣
You could change the title of the video to random dude thinks out loud for 6 minutes.
I have owned a 690r, 500 EXC, 1290 SAR, and now have an 890r. I rode the 500 on paved roads quite a bit and ended up getting a cush drive rear wheel for it. Plus for the 500 is that it is a very simple bike and easy to work on. Easy to add a big gas tank. Pretty light and crashable. Downsides are the maintenance and it truly is a bad bike to ride on highways. The 690 is heavier of course but better on the highway. My only dislike with the 690r is the under seat gas tank. A bit more complicated to add extra fuel capacity. I put rally tanks on my 690r but never really liked the setup. Which brings me to the 890r. It already comes with sufficient fuel range. It is great on the highway. Suspension is decent and aftermarket parts are plentiful. It can't keep up with a 690 or 500 off road but can probably do 75% of what those bikes can do. I also have to ride a lot of pavement to get to the off pavement stuff and the 890r is great to get me there. I am 66 and at my age if I don't feel comfortable riding some terrain on my 890r then probably I should not be riding it on a 500 or 690 either:) The Tuareg is an impressive bike but I love my 890r and the 890r is better off road so why change? Aprilia makes great bikes overall but suffer from a small dealer network.
The 500 is way more fun, but.. its all about your level of riding. As a retired amateur desert racer the 500exc was the way to go. The 690 does everything, trails, street, technical single track, ok nothing great. The 500 is not at all fun on the street, except I did have an extra set of wheels and bought super moto tires for it. that was a hoot! Currently on the 890 R to slow myself down a bit.
I have a 2022 690 Enduro, and do a lot of riding to the trail. Although it is obvious a fair bit bigger and heavier the the EXC, it is a lot smoother on the tarmac. I am also a bigger riider, so I prefer the bigger bike. The EXC is quite a bit buzzier at highway speed.
Good to know, the highway commuting I have to do to and from the trails have me leaning towards the 690.
The lack of dealer network is the only objective argument I find here really, which I do understand. Luckily I live in Europe where it's very common. I have 8 dealers within 100km
I JUST WASTED 6 MINS. OF MY LIFE. GOT NOTHING OUT OF IT .
I have the ktm 500 and for me the key was to balance the wheels. The front one is quite easy to balance, but for the rear I had to put a piece of metal in the opposite part of the tyre lock. With the wheels balanced the vibrations were reduced to a minimum, now I can go onroad without any problem during quite a long time until arrive to the area to do the offroad.
Yeh nice, got my 500 a couple of weeks ago and love it! Definitely made the right decision, videos coming soon!
Where I live there is one Aprila and one KTM shop. So if that is the only basis by far the Aprilia is a better-looking bike. From what I hear much better all-around bike than the lineup of all the KTM, Husky... and all their models. Just my 2 pesos.
From my experience owning and riding these bikes, get the 690 as a dual sport for all day riding that includes long pavement stretches, dirt roads and moderate single track trails. The 500s or 350 EXC-f are more off road oriented and better suited for hard core trails and roads that connect trails.
I own 701. It's great for gravel roads and twin track. If it gets a bit knarly it's not a big problem, it handles it great. I don't enjoy riding it on what a lot of peaple call single track (enduro tracks) , some people think it's fine. You've got to think about what you want it for. I would't be getting a 500 just to do gravel roads, not that the 500 can't do gravel roads. An interesting bike to look at is the SWM at around 10- 11K. Just my thoughts
I have an architectural and design background, and I consider myself a person with decent taste - though I love T7, and don't like the "insect style" or low-poly design of KTM... I rate Aprillia's design as the best of both. I literary don't need to tune anything for the latest Tuareg to make it look better. For some reason, I believe that the BMW F900GS is inspired more by Aprillia than by T7.
If i could only have 1 bike to be able to do it all on the road & off road capabilities. I would concider the Africa Twin or possibly Triumph tiger 900
I own the 890R and I still plan on buying the 500EXC-F because I’ve come to the conclusion that lighter is better when you’re doing more single day trips in the woods/mountains like I tend to do. The 890 I’ll keep parked and ready for multi day trips where I’ll be spending more time on the highway. There’s nothing wrong with having multiple types of bikes for different types of riding. The 690 would make a badass supermoto bike though. Husqvarna offers the 701 in a ready to go supermoto that looks awesome
Yeh nice call. The more I read into it, the more I like the idea of building out a 500 for my weekend riding needs.
I agree with the GS850 vs the 1250. The R1250 GS is top of the line, but anything smaller than that, there are other brands that will give you better bikes than what BMW offers in the sub 1000cc class. Tenere 700, new Apprillia, KTM 890, Ducati Desert X etc
100% agree, hopefully BMW gives us a proper re-model of their mid-sized adv bike soon!
I needed to hear this video. Thanks so much!
May i remind you to the Aprilia Elefant 750 and 900?
The Pegaso?
Tuareg 125?
The successes of Aprilia in the Paris Dakar?
How is Aprilia a newcomer in the allroad scène?
You really should do your homework.
45-60 minutes on the highway on a 500 sounds completely terrible. I owned a 701 and I rode it back to back with a 500. The amount of vibrations (not surprised, it is a race bike) in the 500 compared to my 701 was huge. The 500 was like cheating, it was so easy to ride, but still.
When it comes to the Tuareg I understand your reasons, especially the dealer network issue. It's a fantastic bike and you should test ride one just to get a feel for it. Cheers!
Definitely has me leaning towards the 690 for that reason!
I would definitely love to ride the Tuareg, the specs and reviews are great!
I’m interested in the Tuareg but there seems to be a lot of talk of reliability issues. No doubt the bike is very good judging by the online reviews but I can’t buy a bike I’m consistently worried about, same reason I’ll not get a KTM, i understand they are good and bad examples but thats my take on it
Lots of good stuff coming out of EICMA today, but two I thought you might want to check out are the new Honda Transalp 750 and the significantly upgraded Suzuki V-Strom 800 DE. Both look promising.
Both will still be running in 20yrs too :)
It just seems like a less powerful version on the African twin 😮
@@wickedleeloopy2115 that can be said about pretty much all middleweight ADV bikes lol. This video is getting older. The Tuareg seems to be doing well and people that own them seem to enjoy them generally. Nothing wrong with going that direction if it interests.
Up to an hour is Ok on the 500 as you will be doing it at the start and end of a days ride. You can try the insulated handlebar clamps from MSCmoto and bar weights on the barkbusters to reduce vibes. I found my 500 to have similar bar vibes to my DR790 and people don’t go on about that. It all depends on your preferred terrain. Easy dirt roads including twin track will be fine on the 200 kg bikes but if you are more adventurous, the 500 is king. It’s 90 kg lighter than the twins and you can easily pick it up. It has less fatigue than the rest and the maintenance is a breeze, equal to a DR in terms of valve checks.
It’s now been proven to be the king of reliability. Long distance owners are easily getting 50,000 km with routine maintenance. It is also the best handling/braking bike you will ride and has basic traction control. I have bought a 690 and will be trying it out to compare to the 500. It is noticeably heavier but more powerful and should be better for long distance riding. Remember, in the dirt, less weight is everything.
That’s awesome to hear. I will definitely be dressing up the bike with everything from MSC Moto, they are an awesome team and products are great. Good to hear your thoughts on the maintenance side of things, it definitely makes it seem more manageable for me.
@@TheMotoBarista There are many ktm haters out there. Most have probably never ridden or owned one and in fact I was very negative re the brand due to the poor reliability of the earlier 690. If you do your research you work out what is fact and then the choice is a lot easier. My main issue is low weight and nothing comes close to the 500. Pavlin from Motorcycle Adventures said that you should choose your bike based on the hardest terrain you will come across. NOt a bad philosophy. Every man and his dog has been screaming out for a lightweight adv "unicorn" and it isn't going to happen.
The manufacturers have "manufactured" a myth about adv riding and every bike seems to be a road bike converted to an Adventure model. I have been riding around NSW's southern highlands to the south and south west for quite a few years and I never see these 200kg bikes on the trails I ride, which are quite easy due to the realities of age affecting my desires. In fact I hardly ever see any other dirt bikes, just the occasional DR/690 etc. It's also been said that it is the complainers and ill informed make the majority of complaints so you should ignore them.
Go to the ADVrider Australian 500 forum www.advrider.com/f/threads/ktm-500-husky-501-oz-adventure-bikes and there you will find lots of informed comment from true believers.
@@MrEtnorb thanks for the insight and the link! I’ll definitely do a deep dive and read up more on people’s experiences 👍👍
I've got a husky501 and I was in the same 690 vs. 500 boat. In the end, remember you will have to pick it up. And I must say that if I went for690/701 route, I'd still be lusting after a 500. Now that I have one, I dont' lust after that bigger bike. I would say get a 500. If you want anything bigger, plenty of other options.... used KTM 950/990, Ducati Desert Sled,. For longer distances, go for a seat concepts....I'm planning on upgrading my seat soon. If you already have a 890, get the 500....that would be a great combo.
Everyone who says go for the 500 seems to always have been in my position and since jumping on the 500 platform have absolutely zero regrets and love the bike. Very compelling. Like you said, a 500 and my 790 or whatever else in the future would be a great combo.
The author fails to notice the original Tuareg which was produced for several years back from 1987 in 125, 350 and 600cc comments, Aprilia have won world trials championship with the Climber 300, only company to produce serious V-twin supermoto (RXV/SXV), and Caponord is a stalwart of adventure bikes as is the Pegaso. Then the 50cc models... So there is a long pedigree.
So the video is just an opinionated hack piece mostly sidetracking all useful topics and not having done their research.
Really good points. I don’t like the style and I don’t want to own an Aprillia. Specially interesting when you start the video discussing an steering dumper. WASTE OF TIME.
Service intervals for KTM's 500 make it a very expensive toy for anyone that actually rides their bikes a lot.
Mmmm that does give me the creeps. I would use it for strictly weekend trail riding and the odd local forest Campout. So probably doing services every 6 weeks on average?
@@TheMotoBarista I ride 9K miles annually so all I would be doing is working on that bike🤣
@@bretthawton haha exactly, I’d use the 790 for the bigger rides and the 500 for the quick weekend rips I think 🤣
You could buy the 500 and pack a front sprocket, swap it when you get to the trail.
The 690 is a compromise between and enduro bike and mid-size adventure bike, a 500 is a compromise between an MX bike and an enduro bike. Depends where and what you ride.
I went the 690 route. Most of my rides are in excess of 400km so changing the oil every two or three rides is a deal-breaker. You can turn the 690 into a really capable adventure bike that's comfortable enough on the pavement and a hoot offroad. No, you can't quite do the technical stuff a 500 can do, but frankly, most adventure bike riding and single track is hardly a challenge, so the 500 is like having a Swiss Army knife and never opening the blade.
Hahaha Swiss Army knife and never opening the blade. This comment wins 🤣🤣🤣
So this video brings opinion without testing the bike?
Depending on your background I would either go for the 500 or skip it. Coming from motocross, I was over the vibrations. That engine and bike combo are one of the most vibey things I have ever witnessed. They don't even rubber mount the bars like the motocross 450s do. I would argue a Harley at idle is more comfortable than the ktm500/husky501.
If you haven't been beaten into the dirt from big bore singles yet, then it might be a great choice for you. Also keep in mind they're not much on creature comforts. The seat sucks, they don't have cruise and the gas tank is tiny.
Who doesn’t love a good bit of punishment ? It might make me appreciate my 790 even more 🤣
@@TheMotoBarista it might!
Click bait... is this about the Aprilia or the KTM or BMW. Hmmm
I love the excf, I own a 350, but for me as an adv bike is a big question mark. Its the maintenance of course, but not really the oil changes, which as everybody would say are a quick job (but don’t forget the air filter, the forks, the various greasing jobs, etc). It’s the engine rebuilds, too frequent and expensive for adv use.
My worry exactly. I’m very busy too with work, business and RUclips - so when I have time I like to ride, not be pulling my bike apart! 🤣
@@TheMotoBarista spot on. In recent times I most definitely spent much more of my time maintaining the bike than riding it. The wife says I’m a mechanic, not a motorcyclist.
@@miro_s 🤣🤣🤣 hmmm well I’m definitely rider first. As much as a 500 would be fun, perhaps the 690 is more practical for my needs.
great vid cobba never used a dampener never will i like feeling the bike twitching about the aprilias ugly but goes hard youl kill the 500 on the highway wicked in the scrub but . hard decisions take time mate goodonya cheers
Thanks for watching mate 🤙🤙🤙
Find it hard to take someone's opinion seriously when they call a steering damper a dampener. Makes me wonder if you really know much about motorcycles at all. I got just over a minute in an found it hard to watch you talk about a motorcycles steering dampener any further. I have given you a thumbs up regardless an hope you take this as constructive critisism an not me just having a dig at you.
690 KTM for me. From what I’ve seen, those builds are a insane!
Haha those builds are great!
Look to the guy from New Zealand that took his KTM 500 around the world .
Maybe you should review men's underwear instead of motorcycles.
A KTM 500 to do 45 mins to one hour of highway just to get to the trails is a bad idea (very bad) - you will end up selling that bike after a month, or you will buy a trailer. I own a DRZ400E and I hate doing more than 20 minutes of freeway on that tractor, the KTM is even worst. You definately need a Tuareg in your life :-). Jokes apart, I was really impressed and I would pick a Tuareg over a T7.
Well, I guess being deliberately controversial gets clicks, but that's about all this video has going for it.
Have you ridden the Tuareg 660? Saying "I won't buy it 'cos I don't like how it looks" without conveying anything about how the bike actually performs, is of no use at all to your audience. Anyone can see for themselves how it looks. It's unfortunate that you don't have a dealer network where you live but that doesn't make it a bad bike either. I'm sure there are members of your audience that do.
I think it is better you erase this video
video starts at 3:00 .....
It really all comes down to where you want the focus on fun to occur with your bikes. Dirt or street? Neither the 690 nor the 500 are ideal highway bikes, but both can be set up to be capable enough to get the job done for short distances if that makes sense. John T Young has ridden countless BDRs which almost all include highway sections on a Honda CRF450RL, countless others have toured the world on a 500 EXC-F too. Yes, there will probably be oil changes involved if you do long distance trips or if it is your only or primary bike, but lots of people navigate that because of how great enduro bikes can be on the trails. The 690 will never be the trail bike that the 500 is either since it is the ultimate compromise dual sport. It’s tough to find everything in one bike so you really need to be honest with yourself about what you want from each machine. That’s why I personally liked your two bike idea.
I’m definitely leaning towards the two bike idea and the more I read comments like this, it appears the 500 will be a more exciting and different experience for my riding. Thanks for the comment 🤙
Tuareg 660 is the best adv bike for 2022. KTM didn't even crack top 10
What are you talking about mate? Sure the Tuareg is a great bike but no one is denying the 890R is the middleweight adv champ.
Too many reviews on Aprilia. It's for me an Adv bike wannabe with already a wheel bearing failure, no oil window and filter is way down almost touching the skid plate ,poor radiator and headers protection , and don't forget weak grips covers. Having that said, be prepared for those well needed upgrades.
Ride one before judging it
I don’t think you watched the video. I said I am sure it is a fantastic bike to ride, I just wouldn’t buy one due to styling, lack of dealer support and not a fan of the brand. 🤷♂️
Too much rabbish talking
Have to agree with you on the statements about Aprilia Tuareg. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks mate for watching and the comment 💪💪💪
Hello great movie very nice filmed ;)
Totally different bikes.
Why not buy a red 'KTM'(Gas Gas)? Here,over £1500 cheaper than it's orange sister!
What! Same price here in Australia 😒
@@TheMotoBarista In the 7 thousands here, KTMs in the 9's
500 exc maintenance is a myth more than an issue... check RTW Paul trip around the world and many other guys... I have a 500 and it's a great all around bike
This is what I hear too. I have seen RTWPauls bike and it looks fantastic. Definitely thinking I can get away with it.
Well what about the bikes performance
Halfway through the video I still havent heard anything on topic 😊. Not being a hater, just sayin / hoping its going to be helpful. Later edit: The three reasons are: 1. The looks 2. The dealership network 3. You dont want to own an Aprilia, it doesnt resonate with you. Ohhkeeey. All three of them are entirely subjective, no facts based, so... I am in the market for this bike and I try to gather as much proper information as I can before purchasing it. Still trying to figure out what is the added benefit of spending 7 minutes to listen to your video and 10 minutes to text this answer. Again - trying to be as constructive as possible here. Maybe it will be useful for you in the future, if you want people to pay attention to your (next) content.
So you haven't ridden one and your objections are things everyone knows without ever riding one that are you specific. What I learned is to never waste time on Moto Barista click bait.
You should make a video next about the KTM sitting in the background with the camshaft lobes wore out ! Sh!t bike, Sh!t brand !!! Sell it !!
I see why you don't like the Aprilia you probably don't like Yamaha 700 or 750 honda or Suzuki 800 either maybe because the same reason I don't the front light is not attached do the fork is to the body it feels so weird special at night you turn the handlebars the light stay straight don't like that and never will to me it's better control on my point of view but I do like the Aprilia 660 and the 750 transalp or even the ktm 790 but for Trails is better downsize like the 500 swm super dual x and it is a cheap bike and so many others like it but don't get me wrong I like the kTM to but they break easy I write heart my first one was 300cc 2-stroke ktm almost 20 years ago 🤘 mate
U miss the best design adv bike in it's segment.
No point getting the aprilia 660 when you can get the better looking, more reliable T7.
Exactly, from a brand with so much experience in modern off-road, rally adv riding.
Why is T7 more reliable?
It depends on what you want, Aprilia suspensions are better, it hs a lower centre of gravity, it handles better, and doesn't have the on-off throttle effect.
It is more reliable, but I think it's on the same level of KTM.
Regarding off road experience: have you ever heard of Chaleco Lopez? He drove an Aprilia rxv in the 2010s, placing well at the paris dakar.
By your argument no one should have boght a duke 990, anyway.
It's ok to disagree on which bike is the ugliest 😀 And it's good to have a 500 if you want to experience bar none the best off-road performing bike in the world with a license plate on it. Just my opinion though, of course, and what you can't see in these comments is geographical riding location, time spent on the pavement to get to the start of the ride.. riding experience of all the commenters, etc.. I do a vicious circle, where I'll ride a KTM500exc for a long distance on pavement to get to the start of the off-road portion where it excels. So.. 75km sitting dead center on the seat, then 75km on the left ass-cheek, then 75km on the right ass cheek.. only then does the off road riding begin. Why not trailer it? Because four wheels suck. So 313 hours later, after having religiously adjusted the valves and changed the oil (oil every 15 hours) the main bearings need to be done (way past the 100 hour recommendation, mind you), and I will get tired of the maintenance and ride a XR650L or DR650 until I get tired of the weight and hp (compared to a KTM 500) and forget about the high maintenance of the 500exc and decide I might want to ride that again 😀 So the circle begins again, and I contemplate it while riding a Guzzi V85tt on a long highway ride.. these are all first-world problems, when we debate which is uglier, an Aprilia or a KTM. The 690/701, whether it's a KTM, Husky, or GASGAS.. may just be the sweet spot of the performance/ maintenance ratio. But to each there own; the fact that we can debate it shows that we are spoiled for choice. I think I'll go buy a Royal Enfield now.
Hahaha great comment mate, loved it! 🤣
Very interesting reasons😂😂😂
Always remember the all KTM 4t engines under 800cc are manufactured in China by CF Moto..
Back in the 90s when I was a kid in Europe, Aprilia was "the thing" - kind of what Ducati is today. We had 80cc Suzukis or Hondas and the cool kids 125 Aprilias. It was something that made you envy. But I believe that ship has sunk long time ago. And I agree with you, the Aprilia only looks great on certain pictures. In real life, it looks cheap, feels cheap and I am not confident it is long lasting or aging pretty well. The support aspect is not really something you should be worried. I mean what other than SW updates you need for a bike these days?
I agree on all of your 3 issues with Aprilia. Remembering also the Fortnine video about first oil change of different bikes, I would also think about the long time reliability of Aprilia (compared to japanese brands, BMW or KTM).
I still think 690 could be your next bike :)
Next bike has been selected, all revealed soon 😬😬😬
@@TheMotoBarista awesome, looking forward to it 😃👍
The Fortnite video on oil changes is the dumbest clickbait video on the Fortnite channel. Honestly they should be ashamed, those guys have zero idea of how to do a proper research. There are so many flaws in that video that it is pointless. Comparing oil samples from random bikes (as far as we know they could be putting superbikes, high strung enduros and scooters all in the same bucket), then compare the metal shavings in the oil to come up with a chart that only shows the manufacture, no mention of model, engine cc or oil capacity. Pure BS
KTM reliability ?
2 minutes of off topic hot air. No wonder this video is getting ratioed.
3 absolutely ridiculous reasons.
look of it, 1 dealer, its an aprilia. 🤣😂
Those are actually valid reasons from his point of view (it is not a review, just his personal reasons - well, quite wierdly mixed with some damper and BMW GS info). The look of the bike, brand sympathy and dealer network are quite common things to consider.
Hi, I am from Spain and I really like your channel, congratulations. I have a KTM 890 R and also a Yamaha WF 450. This is my humble opinion about KTM 690 and 500. First, I have not tried neither of them, but I have long talked about them with my friends. Some of them enjoid 690 KTM and complain about the distribution of weight, it is a really big problem the weight is back because of the position of fuel tanks. We are not professionals but people who really ride very fast, feel this as a really problem. For me, the best option would be the 500 and also little by little buy rally accessories (low rally fuel tanks to be able to make more km).Also if you keep de 890 R, the 690 is more near than the 500 and maybe would not be worth it to keep 890 and 690. And finally to make you more confuse... jejejejeje... have you ever thouht about the combination of KTM 890 R and KTM 250 2 strocks? This is the combiniation a really have in my mind. One big hug and enjoy riding. Rober.
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Thanks for the comment and I really appreciate your input! I would love a smaller bike like a 2-stroke but I can transport the bike - I have to ride on highway to my trails, so this isn’t possible for me. Perhaps a 500 is perfect in combination with 790!
Thanks again and glad you are enjoying the channel! 🤘
@@TheMotoBarista
Hopefully you get the 500 sooner rather than later. Big hug
Ya boy got some airtime!
Hahaha doing the GS community proud 🤣
You imagine it (Tuareg) is a good bike,!?? Just go ride one before you trash it!
Hahaha did I trash it!??? Not at all! I said I reckon it is probably a great bike. My reasons just have nothing to do with the bike’s performance.
@@TheMotoBarista As much as I appreciate one should purchase the type of bike depending on the intended riding, I still think you should ride the bike you are reviewing, to come to a balanced conclusion. I hear the Tuareg rides like a lighter dirt bike, but you need to ride it. Yes, sometimes I presume good or bad virtues of a bike, but I am not a RUclips motorbike contributor, and hopefully I am forgiven. Cheers, and keep up the content. We all learn from each others experience.
@@davidmallia628 hmm I don’t think you are getting my point. My comments were absolutely not a review at all. Just simply some points as to why I wouldn’t buy a Tuareg - even though it is probably an amazing bike to ride! In a previous video many people asked why the bike wasn’t on my shortlist for a new bike purchase, I was just simply answering the question. Absolutely not a review. I would never review a bike I have never ridden for at least an entire day.
@@TheMotoBarista Sorry, if I misunderstood, but having such intro titles can give a bike bad publicity, which the Tuareg certainly does not deserve. On the contrary, the common thread is how brilliant it is. Thanks for the clarification, though.
I'm like half through the video and can't take this BS any longer, haven't heard 1 reason against the tuareg. just yapping with no substance
It's a Volkswagen
I can’t tell if that is you giving it praise or dissing it 🤣
3m22sec into the video to say looks and dealer network...
Exc-f just not suitable to ride on a highway. Period.
My thoughts exactly, others out there trying to convince me otherwise 🤣🤦♂️
Ok, but a 690/701 albeit it vibrates quite less than an excf and all in all is a pleasant surprise on and off the road, is not really completely different in that respect.
As an adv rider everything sucks to ride on the highway. Choose the bike for the part of the day you hope to enjoy.
@@travishimself1973 hahaha fair enough
You spent 2:30 minutes to shortly explain the title of the video !!
U never really rode one or won the Dacar :)
I dont wanna own a ktm
change your title instead, maybe like "comparison of aprilia and ktm".
you wasted our time, seriously.
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this guy does not have any idea of how to review a bike. if you dont like the design, keep your ktm on garage
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Stupid video? YES
Uninteresting. He doesn’t like it and adds NOTHING objective to this. Thumbs down.
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Unfassbar, die Aprilia mit einer KTM zu vergleichen!
Was ein Blödsinn!!!
Not an honest review, bye..
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