Is this really in tune with today’s times? I mean I almost don’t get why he cried? Was it because he was happy that that went well? I mean geez, nowadays Grindr is used to hook up so for that small event to happen, while seemingly monumental for someone, doesn’t resonate in today’s times. I mean let’s get real, maybe it’s presumptuous, someone that good looking would have already found someone to hook up with in his neighborhood, such that it wouldn’t invoke that type of reaction from him when he meets a guy across town to go for a walk and chat. More than likely he went and had a chat and stopped by the adult arcade booths before heading home.
It took me a minute to realise why he cried at the station. I was like "awwww" that kiss was cute... Then realised that he knew he wasn't going to hear from him again. He gave his number to him rather than the other way around... I don't care, being gay is not easy, it's not a choice we make to be different, why would we choose to put ourselves through that. It is sooooo hard to meet guys that want to settle, be monogamous, have something real, but I think it stems from having so much rejection in our lives that we just don't want to get hurt. So we have our fill and then leave. This bit of film is so good. So heart warming. I wish everyone love, health and joy! stay safe x
Was wondering the same...why he cried...but also thought it was more of a sense of relief and validation that he wasn't crazy and there are guys out there like him looking for the same. Maybe he did cry because it wasn't going to happen between them or maybe it was a combination of both.
This brings up memories of the day I met the love of my life ... I am a Belgian from Brussels. Back in 1966 I decided to visit London ... It was the era of "Swinging London, Carnaby street, Kings road" ... I had barely arrived in London, that this guy catched my eye as I got of the train in Victoria. We exchanged broad smiles and started chatting and smoking cigarettes ... I don't know how long we talked, but it seemed ages ... He was 22 and I was 29 at the time ... he took me to his local Pub in West Hampstead, I think it was the "William IV" ... then he took me to his home. ... To cut a long story short. I lived with him for a while in London, then we moved to Brussels ... we have lived happily together for over 44 years until he died suddenly in 2010. ... But this is to show that true love between 2 men is not an impossibility !
Guy de Valk I wanted a happily ever after, like c'mon Gramps... But the memories u have of him will always stay with u... U are lucky to have had a love like that... Count yourself lucky because when u pass u will seen him again that I'm sure
Thank you so much for sharing your beautiful story, I have been with my Husband now 11 years. It is so rare to find someone you want to spend your life with. Man like you paved the way for me. I glad he was with you as long as he was, I hope the memories sustains you today and always. A big warm Hug.
No one falls in love in this clip. That was kind of the point. We can just hope that Jamie keeps trying and also comes out to his entire family. Why can't he come out to his younger brother? That's bullshit.
Back in 1974 I was secretly in love with my college roommate, one beautiful fall day we went hiking in the woods and ran down a huge field and tackled each other and rolled in the grass. We ended up on top of each other and froze for a few seconds and stared into each others eyes. I know now we both wanted to kiss but we never did, I was too afraid to let him know how I felt. This film reminded me of that day. He came on to me many times and I was just to blind to realize it, until years later. Oh how I loved him.....such regrets.
@@anonymously2570 In 2010 I called his family to find out where he might be, they said he just got married for the 3rd time that past weekend, no children...what odd timing! Before I could contact him, he e-mailed me the next day. Unfortunately, we didn't keep in touch because he lives on the other side of the country and was just newly married. Plus we are both old men now...I guess it was too late.
@@giovanniserafino1731 it was the first time... i could feel the tension btwn them... am sure the next time they meet there will be lover's spit in the air!
@BitterVoid Yeah, I wasn't sure either. I didn't know if the feelings inside him were overwhelming, but I guess people are right, he sensed he wouldn't see the guy again. It's a devastating sensation of loneliness
Well films are made to have an open interpretation. But the replies here are what every closeted romantic gays feel. As for me, I did cry in front of my first boyfriend. I don't know, he asked my why and I told him I never thought someone would love me or maybe (I never thought I would get to love someone).
Jaime crying at the end was basically a realization that Ben wasn’t into him enough to pursue something more. Jaime may not know the reason, but my guess is that Ben knew right away that they were in different stages in life. Ben has experience and is out to everyone while Jaime is just beginning his journey. Kudos to Ben for not taking advantage of Jaime’s inexperience. Jaime will be fine. Maybe he will find someone else who is also at the beginning of the journey and they both can discover many beautiful experiences together.
@Gins Hidalgo In part I agree with your perspective. I had that feeling quite strongly when they were sitting and speaking with Parliament behind them. Ben has experience and Jaime is still at home and mostly in the closet. Actually Ben asked about Jaime's first time. I thought he meant the first time he slept with another man. Maybe Jaime was still a virgin?? In any case neither of them was a great communicator. What I don't agree with is that if your theory is true than Ben could have at least tried to offer friendship and helped Jaime to mature and evolve in this life. I don't agree that two people at the beginning of what is usually a very difficult journey can really help each other more than struggling through together. Jaime is somewhat naive and immature. He definitely needs guidance and someone who is willing to share their knowledge and experience. People in general have become very selfish and homosexual men even more so due to the mass availability of an endless number sex partners. I am not sure that Ben was so noble to not take advantage of Jaime's vulnerability. It seems he was not really attracted to him. Jaime is looking for connection and some kind of love. Ben probably was just looking for an afternoon of sex.
It‘s easy to fall in love with a person in virtual space. You‘re chatting hours for hours, day by day. You feel understood, imagine a smile on the other one‘s face every time you need it. You fall in love with this perfect person. And then you‘ll meet in reality and all the magic can be over. You will miss the chat-person you started to love. But it‘s gone. That hurts. I had to go through this a couple of times. But the last one became my boyfriend 13 years ago. He still is. ♥️
The acting was so earthly and real. So was the story. Guess that's what's best about the British theatre. It's core edge is always its fixation on being the truest to life.
Too true! As a hardcore introvert I always tried to hide in my room when we had guests over. My parents would drag me out and force me to socialize lol
To me the tears signify relief - I'm not alone, I am attractive, I am lovable, I'm no longer the outsider in a marginalised community, I'm connecting with a real person in 3D and not just online... so many thoughts and fears, washed away with one supportive interaction. Beautiful.
That's a different read of the scene. Not sure I agree, tho'. I felt his crying was a triggered response from his first (and I guess only previous) encounter that also led nowhere...PTSD. More questions than answers... Dating app's suck!!
@@JWCreatesArt Remember he's new to it all. Not jaded by years of dead-end connections on dating apps. I remember how hopeful I felt as a teen engaging online, and how hopeful I felt through the first 3-5 years of online dating. Hope is a powerful thing...
I totally agree, with maybe a hint of grief that he went in for the kiss in the first place. All it takes is that one situation to finally happen to you so that you know it's all gonna be okay.
I agree with this perspective. Though he says "see you around", when Jaime kissed him he did lean a little into it and he seemed genuinely interested when Jaime spoke. I think Jaime was just a bundle of nerves with the insecurity that he may not call hence the cry.
The tension he felt while waiting for Ben. The way their voices were trembling, top notch acting. We've all experienced that one way or another. When he cried, I think what made him cry is the fear of never finding love, getting rejected again, feeling unwanted and "peculiar".
Being gay is lonely, and the harsh truth is that we should never show our emotions to others in the first meetings He finally find a guy he would love to know more but he sensed that he would never see him again so he cried It is just so hard to find that someone you like and at the same time he seems interested too
Dear, being gay does not have to be lonely at all. don't know your age or location, but you just need to be in a safer space/ location, and you can be fully you with no fear. I feared it would never happen when I was in my teens, but here I am, and my husband and I just walked from our house, hand in hand, down to the pedestrian area, and ate at a french restaurant, laughing with the staff and then ambled home, not a care in the world! we have MANY friends, gay and straight, and every time we go out we meet more people that want to know us.....not because we are super models but because we seem to put off happy , content energy that is somehow welcoming to people. hand in there!
@@eugenefrankmd5433 if you mean that perhaps I don't "get it" due to being lucky in where i am or not having been lonely, perhaps. however if he's in the western hemisphere, I'd say there are likely other issues than being gay keeping him lonely that are manageable and worth hope.
When I first watched this video couple of months ago, I didn't understand the scene at the station. Rewatching it after experiencing something similar made me cry so hard the second time. Of course this is only my interpretation, but I was chatting with this guy I met online for a couple weeks and started to developed a crush on him. When we finally met for a first date, I felt like I was talking way too much. At the end, I knew I would love to see him again and develop something more. I kissed him but I knew he wasn't interested in seeing me again. He didn't say it but I can just feel it after the kiss ended. I cried when I got home. We never saw each other again.
This young guy is so vulnerable and I really relate. I'm so much older and have not found a mate. At his age and lack of experience, he's really scared and I was touched by his vulneability.
Absolutely heartwarming piece of cinema. It’s so hard for gay people to feel loved in this world and this piece of art really shows what waiting and waiting for someone that’s unafraid to meet up really feels like.
here in the Philippines, same sex marriage is not legal but when gays live together people understand. so gays are free to do whatever they want. they can love people and people lobe them. so now i am with my bf living together and my family knows it and sometimes they stay with us together when they visit us. so nice. and people will not look at you like you're criminal.
Went through this over 40 years ago . Thrown together , the friendship starts , the friendship gets close . You both pass boot camp and get posted together to the same base sharing the same room . The friendship gets closer. Lots of hints , lots of glances , fun wrestling in tightie whiteys , hints become undeniable. Suddenly it goes cold, still talking and hanging together in a group but it’s gone cold. Finally posted to different bases ! Say good by on the day., Me, “All right , I’m going man , see ya “ . Him in a sad voice “ Awwww no man “. Shake hands and never see or hear from him again . It was devastating ! I was 19 , now I’m 61 . Still think of him every so often.
Watching gay short films was how I handled finding out who I was when I was younger, and it was always like a little safe place, like a little getaway to watch someone or people that were the same as me and we’re going through the same things that I was, and things that I may have not yet dealt with until I was older. This was such a good one!!! You could feel the weight he dealt with
He cried because the could feel the polite rejection of the oder guy! "Not a see you later, but a uncompromising "See you around" To be rejected or ignored is a very painful situation!
@@Darrigrande Yes! That is exactly what I picked up from the scene. For a while, Jaime looked intensely at Ben. Jaime was longing to reach over to kiss Ben and he finally mustered the courage to do it. But the most telling sign of the "polite rejection" was that Ben simply walked away and never turned around to look back. Ben was unimpressed and he could take it or leave it. Yes, Jaime cried because he was in pain. It was another loss of anticipated dreams - thus his loneliness continues.
The interaction between them is subtle. Watch the smiles and the long looks. They connected on an emotional level. This caused a rush of feelings. Fear, hurt, anticipation. Beautifully done. One of my favorite shorts.
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This era of social media dating is so foreign to me. Meeting through clubs, teams, organizations, friends, at work, even bars, provided a chance to observe someone before moving in or moving on. Deciding from photos then an isolated meet-up doesn't give much of a chance to make an impression. Poor Jamie, he obviously hoped for more, but didn't know how to ask for it.
Bear with me for a sec as I ramble. Recently I came to this same conclusion... as of like, yesterday. I was trying to put my finger on EXACTLY what I didn't like about social media dating. And it's really that simple: you don't know them. They're a complete stranger with this entire past that you know nothing of. You have to learn all their physical quirks in that first meet-up. Whereas in person, you get the time to get to know them and get a feel for not only how they act to you, but act around others. There's just this certain pressure with meeting online. Especially if you've already been talking for awhile; it's hard to be like "Sorry, I'm not actually interested" just after that first meetup. Now that I think about it........... Holy shit. Most of my issues with guys I met up with were because I didn't know it existed beforehand. One hid his voice from me because it wasn't very attractive. Another hid the fact he was missing teeth. And a third was just way more flamboyant and extraverted than I was aware of, because you can't really pick up on that too much over text and call. These would've been dealbreakers, but since I already was talking to them, it felt wrong to end communication because of one or two faulty characteristics. It's the whole foot in the door persuasion tactic. But yeah, to your point, going from mere photos to an isolated meetup is quite the contrast. Like the character said, it's easy to flirt over text, but weird in person. That said, the characters were quite different. Main felt young and shy, other seemed older, more wise, less serious. Romantic disconnect.
Where I live there are no options of bars and clubs and such (well, there are few but I am an introvert), and I don't like social media dating, so...I am lonely :(
I wrote a comment when I first saw this film...and somehow it didn't post. But because I was so moved by the performances, I wrote another. What I left out in my previous post is my sentiments about the kiss: a kiss - especially the first - is something most of us ponder, remember, judge, and worry over. Will it be great? will it be embarrassing? This kiss is epic. The spontaneity and tenderness, the overt ache and hunger for acceptance is palpable and so beautifully expressed in the simplest and smallest of gestures. I can't believe this could be better portrayed...and it seems impossible to accept that the two men were simply acting. BRAVO!
Your conclusions betray you,Thomas: what gives you the certaainty they were just acting? Or that each had not felt those very moments in theur real lives and brought those pains and yearnings to the fore? A crack in your facade, that you mistrust, that your fantasies fail you, that you are much more frightened and defensive in seeing the real...please let it all hang out, you have so much to touch....
I see so much of myself in Jamie, specially after I first came out at 18. I was painfully shy and awkward and had zero self confidence. I really connect with his character so much, even to the point of crying on the platform after the date ends! ❤️❤️
I think every gay man had their moment like this, you met someone that sparked something in you, you liked and wanted to get close to them, they were accommodating and nice but you could tell they were not feeling as you did and when you parted you knew they weren’t going to call. It’s such a low, heavy & exhausting feeling as want flows all over you. And you think how much more of this must I go through when all I am asking the universe for is a friend. And it burns even more when you’re not out yet.
@@houndnobleman876 In today’s world of social media and dating/ hook up apps finding gay love I has become even more challenging. I cannot help but to notice the high number of gay long term relationships have become open relationships. I grew up in a home with a mother and a father, my parents were married for 56 years until my father passed. That’s what I am looking for, someone to share the rest of my life with, someone that wouldn’t tire of me and seek the company of others but I guess that’s too much to ask for.
This is what I call the “old familiar pain” this was his first time................for gay men seeking a real connection, sweet romantic love the pain of disappointment & rejection becomes routine. Seriously, how many times can a heart bleed before it gives up. 😔
Probably this year I should try to ask for a confirmation. I have been in a relationship which is in discreet for 6 years now. And during this quarantine I found out he decided to get a girlfriend. At first my heart shattered, but then I realized he never mentioned we are in a relationship even though we've lived in the same roof for 6 years. Now when quarantine is over, I'm gonna pack my bags and start again, this time without him.
I just watched a movie called "The Blonde One" and this scenario just reminded me of it. I hope everything works out for you and that you get/got the clarity you wanted.
Chaturdate Me remember you not only look fantastic my friend, you deserve more, if I was him I’d declare you to the world, you’ve put with with so much, you will find the one I’m sure if it, in the strangest places.
A "Ill see you around" means "Good by for ever" Unfortunately Jaime put too much expectations on the date! I can understand that he bursted into tears at the end!
@@Darrigrande Greed. "I'll see your around" after jamie gave him his phone number and kissed him was the sign that Jamie would never see him again. No "I'll call you tomorrow" or reciprocation in the kiss. Sad.
For a short film this one really goes right to the heart of the anxieties. And he just doesn't get any real positive support from Ben and realizes he may never hear from him again. Only the most beautiful qualify...
BEAUTIFUL! Especially the moment he is mentally reeling after the meeting and the kiss, and the the gravity of it all --all the wondering and waiting and finally getting to experience a kiss from a man - the experience hits him and he bursts into tears (undoubtedly happy ones). That moment alone was worth watching all that led up to it. Fantastic work, all that were involved. BRAVO!
Were they happy tears, though? The way I interpreted it was that he felt the weight of being closeted and felt conflicted about having to find love in secrecy. I think a lot of gay guys can relate to that abstract feeling of wanting true happiness, while simultaneously knowing they have to tip-toe around the truth. But hey - I'm probably overanalyzing. 😅
Hal, why would you lock yourself in a cage of your own making ? My way of thinking is simple; I own people nothing. I walk this earth because my parents were fucking, no other reason. They thought maybe they were giving me life, in reality they gave me death also. So, I am here against my will, the only thing I can do is try to make the best of the time I will spend here. For me that means staying through to myself, never do concessions. I am glad I am gay, even if there was a way of chancing I would not do so ! If your parents don't accept you as you are, fuck off with them ! Same with family and friends ! I never lied about me being gay, and to tell you the truth I never had problems. There is nothing wrong being gay, it is nobodies bussinesh anyway ! I am Dutch, in Europe you can live a full live if you want, no need to hide yourself in a closet ! I like myself, I never had problems accepting myself. Why would you care what other people think off you ? There are so many people not bigoted, find you own circle of friends. I do realise things are different if you life in a different culture like the Moslimworld. In my oppinion religion has been the great curse that has afficted mankind, luckily I am free of all that shit ! I am who I am, and are happy with it, and so are hundreds of happy gays that I know !@@LosAnggraito
@@12341234W1 I cannot totally agree with you saying that religion has to be "shit". Of course, many religious people, especially the older ones, are very conservative. But you cannot generalise that. Nowadays it has changed a lot. And I am sure there are many homophobic people who are not religious, too. So please do not directly attack religion in general as I feel attaced too (and there is no way I could be homophobic lol). P.S. Sorry if there are any mistakes. English is not my mother tongue and I am currently learning it at school.
@@cwijnoogst7128 I am sorry for what happened to you boyfriend... I feel completely fine and accepted in my community! Best regards! Hope your boyfriend is okay :)
It is very powerful. The moment when he cries at the train station. It could be a release of years of living with his 'secret' or an expression of the immense attraction he feels for this guy or the emptiness of knowing that he may not see the guy again...
You do realize, I hope, that these two are never going to see other again. That's why he's crying at the end. His hopes were dashed. So this would make a weird series: the protagonist is politely rejected at the end of each episode.
A beautifully written and acted film. It was nicely done, how the other guy didn’t lead him on and kind of gently let him know it probably won’t go further but didn’t make him feel stupid. Christ we’ve all been there.
I had tears from the kissing scene....Seeing Jamie, the warrior kiss the guy moved me......It takes courage to love someone; to love anyone.....Life is a challenge, every moment matters. Being alone matters, being with that person matters...thanks.....jeff
Reading First Date Feelings in London reminded me of my own story. I remember a connection that felt as intense and hopeful as a first date, even though it was with someone I knew well. We spent so much time together, and on his birthday, I gave him a gift that meant as much to me as I hoped it would mean to him-a beautifully wrapped three-tier box with a shirt, pants, and a belt. His gratitude touched me deeply, and though I was waiting for a moment of reciprocated affection that never came, the experience taught me about the strength that comes from loving openly. These are the moments that shape us, even if they leave us with a bittersweet ache. Love sometimes closes doors, but it also opens our hearts to who we are and what we hope for.
1st class filmmaking with exceptional acting from the leads. The kiss at 06:53 Jamie had been wanting to do from the moment he set eyes on Ben. Sexual attraction between gay strangers is hinted at from how close Jamie stands alongside Ben as they walk, and Director Christopher Manning and his fine lead, Sebastian Christophers do a magnificent job of portraying Jamie’s yearning for intimacy and his sense of love lost with his first boy. Ben, on the other hand, is an out and active gay man, a little worn from the night before at a gay venue, who is sympathetic to Jamie but not there to tutor him or act as mentor; the rejection, kind and quiet though it may have seemed, is still painful for Jamie. The grey monochrome, almost black and white image, at the end of Jamie silhouetted against the light, is a sad comment on trying to live a less than fulfilling life through gay apps.
what is it that makes it so painful in meeting when you are gay: why is the rejection thought to be more intense: why is the happiness needed to be more happy: the sadness more suffocating: there seems to be more at stake in meeting another gay guy: as if this is theone and only,then it is another 'only': I hate it with such intensity that I fea it as if am Ceasar about to be stabbed....
When he cried I felt it so hard. Movies touch our lives , you discover that everything in movies is real , so real..some people came in our lives only to walk away at a speed of light .so you are left wondering if you ever did something wrong to them.
I am not sure what message this film conveys but the acting is superb. I sensed a strong feeling of loneliness throughout on the part of Jamie, and especially at the end when he cried which just tore me up. The loneliness is something I am only too familiar with. You are left to guess whether anything came of this meeting afterwards.
Love and wanting to be loved is not a game. It should never be treated casually or as unimportant. It should never be dismissed. Living in a porn-centric culture can make one forget that.
@1GoldRunner Here's what you do: get some shorts and a tank top and go to the gym. Talk to your work-out neighbours. Go dancing. Talk to people. Buy someone a drink. Join a club or sports league. Play a game. Talk to your teammates. Take a class. Talk to your colleagues. Audition for a play. Talk to your cast mates. Join a choir...
I get that, the built-up anxiety, longing, needing for that person that reason to make all the suffering worth it. Beautifully presented and clear raw emotion displayed. I feel you Jamie, I see You 💖👑💖
That moment when he cried at the station, totally relatable😢. I cry myself when I get frustrated not knowing the true meaning of happiness. Studying in London while also looking around but so far, its just 😶.. Well, life goes on..
Damn the facial expressions these actors are making go so well with the deliveries of their lines! Makes it so much more believable. Plus the are taking their time with their dialogue, which helps with the delivery because they aren't trying to force their lines.
Reminds me of when I was travelling across southern Spain last February where I met the perfect guy. It was my first time with a guy and it was magical. He said he had never seen someone smile so much. I don't know if I'll ever see him again :(
@@meteorilorenzo nope. He has a bf and I'm happy for him. I haven't been lucky when it comes to love. I just ended a potential relationship yesterday. I didn't want to but I had to :(
@@pass2pee I'm sorry. Sometimes it happens, we have to accept it. One day you will find someone that makes you smile like the Spanish guy. Don't be negative. A big hug for you. 😘
@@meteorilorenzo not that the last guy didn't make me smile. He's actually much better than the Spanish guy. I just wish we met at different time of our lives. I promise that I'll reply with a smile next time haha! Thanks for the well wishes. Big hug to you too.
Oh.... the internal battles we fight in an attempt to figure who we are and our role in this life. I remember those years but, never wish to relive them. Love is love and a good life is love. Wonderful film!!!
With such marvelous directing and truly excellent performances, the impact is deeply felt in such a short film. For me, the moment that renders this drama unforgettable is the kiss. Its power is felt through its beauty as well as Jamie's aching desire for the contact, the acceptance...wearing his fear of rejection and taking the risk of such intimacy in his expression and spur-of-the-moment action. Amplifying the scene is the slight but powerfully moving lean-in from Ben - his expression near ecstatic with the contact. It's the slightest of movements, yet it speaks an undeniable emotion. His gentle smile as he pulls away confirms a moment of magic between the two. I wonder if the subsequent tears is the fear of his personal history of rejection - or being "ghosted" - once again coming to pass.
Your eloquence, your perceptions, your emotional sensitivity Thomas, makes you so attractive so I know you will read my fears and anxieties and quiet them all when you touch my ear to swat a fly away: but, too, your words flow with such ease that they do also make them difficult to penetrate and touch you in non-deflected fashion: la voix dans l'éscalier is all I can feel as I admire your defenses...here, far from you, in Paris, I can respond with a gentle touché: I await your repost, dear Patroclus.
I think Jamie's crying was when he finally let go of John and the past. He decided to move forward with his life. Wether his new friend stays in touch or not doesn't matter, he kissed him in public with other people around and nothing bad happened. I saw the new guy as curious and interested in Jamie but concerned that John could later get a backbone and want Jamie back.
What a lovely short film. It brings to life the genuine awkwardness and uncertainty of a first date between two ordinary people. Left wondering how things went after.
I want this film redone! Where this actor finds a guy that loves him. A feel good movie. How could you not like him? He is lonely and needs someone who he has a chance to develop a relationship with and ends on a positive note. We viewers need it too!!
The feels... reminds me of my first date with my now fiancé At the end of the date as we parted, it was almost regretful because we never wanted it to end. I think once alone again afterwards we both cried having found what we thought (and still do) is the 'one' for us. This short film was a nice reminder to cast my mind back those few years and remember how it all began! Thank you :)
The ending SLAYED me: yet another disappointment; another false start? Poor Jamie! Sam Atkinson (who has the most beautiful mouth) gives a lovely performance.
Very emotional video. I experienced something similar myself several times in my youth. Not even my eyes remained dry when Jamie understood that the heart will not get the love it desires. It hurts a lot.
I don't understand why people interpret his tears as pain or disappointment. This is clearly a mix between relief, hapiness, and probably a bit of fear too. He's overwhelmed, not sad.
It seemed to be tears of humiliation and rejection to me. Jamie knew Ben was not interested in him and probably wouldn't speak to him again, which you could work out from Ben's reactions to Jamie saying things that revealed his age and lack of experience (like lying about going to gay bars, revealing that he lives with his father and younger brother, his story about his first kiss when Ben was really asking about his first sexual experience, the unenthusiastic way Ben kissed him goodbye and the finality and coldness in him saying "see you around").
This is well done. Acting is great and it draws you in emotionally. I love being left with the idea of what happened after they met up for their first date.
Really beautiful and thought provoking, nice to see short films to be made on such topics someone really talking about the toxicity that one has ro handle while being the part of LGBTQIA+ Community
Thank you for such a heartwarming film on the first time we kissed another man. Mine was at the age of 22 when I was a tour guide across Canada and met a guy while staying at a hotel in Kamloops, BC in the 70's. I had a big smile the next morning as my 45 tourists got on the bus. I never saw the guy after but will always remember my first time. I hope he managed to find a forever love. It took me until the age of 35 and I married my love once we could in 2003 in Montreal. We were together 28 years. He was the love of my life and I miss him every day now that he is at the Rainbow Bridge taking care of our 7 adopted scotties, 3 westies and 2 cats. Duane is still watching over me.....
I remember when I had “that talk” to my mother.. she said “do not tell your father”... All I can think about is how lonely Jamie feels. He does not trust anyone. He really believes he’s worthless! That’s so sad! He cried at the station because he knows that coming back home kills him inside. It’s not about John.. really.. John is a free man.. he is past that in the closet story.. it’s all about the possibility of getting out of that situation.. Jamie must go away from that poisoning environment.
Veramente bello....... DOLCISSIMO...... racconto di come sia difficile trovare non solo la felicità , ma la possibilità di darla ad altri..... complimenti a chi lo ha realizzato
why i am here , i am girl , but when he cried i really felt that , i met a guy online and went to see him , first he ignored me by playing with his phone and then watching the tv in restaurant as i didnt even exist , and then after that i said i will go home now , and then i cried on the way home . This part of the movie reminded of that :(
Beautiful story. I met my husband in 1997. I was 20 years old and he was 44. He was my first man. We were together for 23 years,(even after I transitioned in 2018) until he passed away of cancer in 2020. I love him and always will. It was not all happiness in 23 years, but I will do it all over again. RIP Danny, love of my life.
Well done! I haven't seen a Pecadillo film that wasn't. This managed to be short but engaging, endearing, and sort of depressing. But we needed a short film on this subject: an inexperienced teen going from chatting on an app to meeting, being attracted, and experiencing polite rejection in person.
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In the description you've listed the wrong actor as Jamie. It isn't Sam Atkinson, but Sebastian Christophers.
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Is this really in tune with today’s times? I mean I almost don’t get why he cried? Was it because he was happy that that went well? I mean geez, nowadays Grindr is used to hook up so for that small event to happen, while seemingly monumental for someone, doesn’t resonate in today’s times. I mean let’s get real, maybe it’s presumptuous, someone that good looking would have already found someone to hook up with in his neighborhood, such that it wouldn’t invoke that type of reaction from him when he meets a guy across town to go for a walk and chat. More than likely he went and had a chat and stopped by the adult arcade booths before heading home.
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@@shocker147 what the real name of ben?
It took me a minute to realise why he cried at the station. I was like "awwww" that kiss was cute... Then realised that he knew he wasn't going to hear from him again. He gave his number to him rather than the other way around... I don't care, being gay is not easy, it's not a choice we make to be different, why would we choose to put ourselves through that. It is sooooo hard to meet guys that want to settle, be monogamous, have something real, but I think it stems from having so much rejection in our lives that we just don't want to get hurt. So we have our fill and then leave. This bit of film is so good. So heart warming. I wish everyone love, health and joy! stay safe x
Was wondering the same...why he cried...but also thought it was more of a sense of relief and validation that he wasn't crazy and there are guys out there like him looking for the same. Maybe he did cry because it wasn't going to happen between them or maybe it was a combination of both.
So true.
You just made me realized that.
Thank you.
It's the fear of loneliness that haunts us.
Well, being gay is not easy... and being not gay would be easier? I just wnder
@@Oscar-vk6vg Pretending to be straight would be the most difficult one.
This brings up memories of the day I met the love of my life ... I am a Belgian from Brussels. Back in 1966 I decided to visit London ... It was the era of "Swinging London, Carnaby street, Kings road" ... I had barely arrived in London, that this guy catched my eye as I got of the train in Victoria. We exchanged broad smiles and started chatting and smoking cigarettes ... I don't know how long we talked, but it seemed ages ... He was 22 and I was 29 at the time ... he took me to his local Pub in West Hampstead, I think it was the "William IV" ... then he took me to his home. ... To cut a long story short. I lived with him for a while in London, then we moved to Brussels ... we have lived happily together for over 44 years until he died suddenly in 2010. ... But this is to show that true love between 2 men is not an impossibility !
Guy de Valk I wanted a happily ever after, like c'mon Gramps... But the memories u have of him will always stay with u... U are lucky to have had a love like that... Count yourself lucky because when u pass u will seen him again that I'm sure
guy de valk thanks for sharing your story and really sorry for your loss.
Your story is really amazing. It inspires me so much. I'm sorry if you lose him I think God has better plan for you. Hope you'll be happy again.
Ooohhh--i love story---and relation
Thank you so much for sharing your beautiful story, I have been with my Husband now 11 years. It is so rare to find someone you want to spend your life with. Man like you paved the way for me. I glad he was with you as long as he was, I hope the memories sustains you today and always. A big warm Hug.
I think I'm addicted to stories about people falling in love with each other, no matter their gender or sexual orientation. Love is beautiful, period.
Love knows no gender, age or species. Love IS love! ❤️💛💚💙💜
No one falls in love in this clip. That was kind of the point. We can just hope that Jamie keeps trying and also comes out to his entire family. Why can't he come out to his younger brother? That's bullshit.
Omg same.
You are truly right!
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Back in 1974 I was secretly in love with my college roommate, one beautiful fall day we went hiking in the woods and ran down a huge field and tackled each other and rolled in the grass. We ended up on top of each other and froze for a few seconds and stared into each others eyes. I know now we both wanted to kiss but we never did, I was too afraid to let him know how I felt. This film reminded me of that day. He came on to me many times and I was just to blind to realize it, until years later. Oh how I loved him.....such regrets.
I can feel it. Such a gorgeous memories ❤️
This happened with a friend of mine but I never said anything tho now I realize the signs, big regret
did u ever meet him again??
@@anonymously2570 In 2010 I called his family to find out where he might be, they said he just got married for the 3rd time that past weekend, no children...what odd timing! Before I could contact him, he e-mailed me the next day. Unfortunately, we didn't keep in touch because he lives on the other side of the country and was just newly married. Plus we are both old men now...I guess it was too late.
@@localman12 ah shit, did you get your closure at least?
That kiss was like a classic "bye" kiss to the stranger we just met and who we will never see again.
Hopefully not. Hopefully they will meet up again.
And the worst thing is that he just bared his soul to the guy, who seemed genuinely interested, but then it's like Well bye forever then.
That last comment, " I'll be seeing you around," was very disappointing!
@@giovanniserafino1731 it was the first time... i could feel the tension btwn them... am sure the next time they meet there will be lover's spit in the air!
i can relate so much
As he cried at the station I totally felt that. It's all very real.
True... Things most people take for granted are very painful and hard to get for others.. my heart broke for Jaime..
@BitterVoid Yeah, I wasn't sure either. I didn't know if the feelings inside him were overwhelming, but I guess people are right, he sensed he wouldn't see the guy again. It's a devastating sensation of loneliness
Its because he acted on his feelings and the relief and euphoria that he's began his true journey of who he really is.
not sure why he cried.. didn't make a lot of sense. I would be happy to meet someone I liked and clicked with.
Well films are made to have an open interpretation. But the replies here are what every closeted romantic gays feel. As for me, I did cry in front of my first boyfriend. I don't know, he asked my why and I told him I never thought someone would love me or maybe (I never thought I would get to love someone).
Jaime crying at the end was basically a realization that Ben wasn’t into him enough to pursue something more. Jaime may not know the reason, but my guess is that Ben knew right away that they were in different stages in life. Ben has experience and is out to everyone while Jaime is just beginning his journey. Kudos to Ben for not taking advantage of Jaime’s inexperience. Jaime will be fine. Maybe he will find someone else who is also at the beginning of the journey and they both can discover many beautiful experiences together.
At least Ben should have told Jamie that they were not a match.
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@Gins Hidalgo
In part I agree with your perspective. I had that feeling quite strongly when they were sitting and speaking with Parliament behind them.
Ben has experience and Jaime is still at home and mostly in the closet. Actually Ben asked about Jaime's first time. I thought he meant the first time he slept with another man. Maybe Jaime was still a virgin?? In any case neither of them was a great communicator.
What I don't agree with is that if your theory is true than Ben could have at least tried to offer friendship and helped Jaime to mature and evolve in this life.
I don't agree that two people at the beginning of what is usually a very difficult journey can really help each other more than struggling through together. Jaime is somewhat naive and immature. He definitely needs guidance and someone who is willing to share their knowledge and experience.
People in general have become very selfish and homosexual men even more so due to the mass availability of an endless number sex partners. I am not sure that Ben was so noble to not take advantage of Jaime's vulnerability. It seems he was not really attracted to him.
Jaime is looking for connection and some kind of love. Ben probably was just looking for an afternoon of sex.
Well stated
@@globalman agree
It‘s easy to fall in love with a person in virtual space. You‘re chatting hours for hours, day by day. You feel understood, imagine a smile on the other one‘s face every time you need it. You fall in love with this perfect person. And then you‘ll meet in reality and all the magic can be over. You will miss the chat-person you started to love. But it‘s gone. That hurts. I had to go through this a couple of times. But the last one became my boyfriend 13 years ago. He still is. ♥️
Ah you're so lucky bro, good for you
You're completly rigth omg!
Lacarian Plays relatable..and I still don’t know why it would ends up like that. Cos of high expectation?
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I had a ibf But she blocked me everywhere :((
The acting was so earthly and real. So was the story. Guess that's what's best about the British theatre. It's core edge is always its fixation on being the truest to life.
Hear hear
Put that thing away and talk to the guest is every dad ever
Uh that's rather what my Dad gets told to do 😂
This sentence can be used out of context so easily...
True.
Too true! As a hardcore introvert I always tried to hide in my room when we had guests over. My parents would drag me out and force me to socialize lol
@Keenan Thomas It triggered me too. It reminded me of my dad back in Sweden.
To me the tears signify relief - I'm not alone, I am attractive, I am lovable, I'm no longer the outsider in a marginalised community, I'm connecting with a real person in 3D and not just online... so many thoughts and fears, washed away with one supportive interaction. Beautiful.
That's a different read of the scene. Not sure I agree, tho'. I felt his crying was a triggered response from his first (and I guess only previous) encounter that also led nowhere...PTSD. More questions than answers... Dating app's suck!!
@@JWCreatesArt Remember he's new to it all. Not jaded by years of dead-end connections on dating apps. I remember how hopeful I felt as a teen engaging online, and how hopeful I felt through the first 3-5 years of online dating. Hope is a powerful thing...
I totally agree, with maybe a hint of grief that he went in for the kiss in the first place. All it takes is that one situation to finally happen to you so that you know it's all gonna be okay.
I agree with this perspective. Though he says "see you around", when Jaime kissed him he did lean a little into it and he seemed genuinely interested when Jaime spoke. I think Jaime was just a bundle of nerves with the insecurity that he may not call hence the cry.
Loved it.
I hated to see him cry. He just feels so alone and without support. Hit me hard.
The tension he felt while waiting for Ben. The way their voices were trembling, top notch acting. We've all experienced that one way or another. When he cried, I think what made him cry is the fear of never finding love, getting rejected again, feeling unwanted and "peculiar".
Being gay is lonely, and the harsh truth is that we should never show our emotions to others in the first meetings
He finally find a guy he would love to know more but he sensed that he would never see him again so he cried
It is just so hard to find that someone you like and at the same time he seems interested too
Lucas C true
Dear, being gay does not have to be lonely at all. don't know your age or location, but you just need to be in a safer space/ location, and you can be fully you with no fear. I feared it would never happen when I was in my teens, but here I am, and my husband and I just walked from our house, hand in hand, down to the pedestrian area, and ate at a french restaurant, laughing with the staff and then ambled home, not a care in the world! we have MANY friends, gay and straight, and every time we go out we meet more people that want to know us.....not because we are super models but because we seem to put off happy , content energy that is somehow welcoming to people. hand in there!
So true.
Stay away from dating apps.....this story repeats itself over and over
@@horseman62 You jest at scars that never felt a wound....
@@eugenefrankmd5433 if you mean that perhaps I don't "get it" due to being lucky in where i am or not having been lonely, perhaps. however if he's in the western hemisphere, I'd say there are likely other issues than being gay keeping him lonely that are manageable and worth hope.
i could deeply understand why he cried. That's " see u around" hit so hard
When I first watched this video couple of months ago, I didn't understand the scene at the station. Rewatching it after experiencing something similar made me cry so hard the second time. Of course this is only my interpretation, but I was chatting with this guy I met online for a couple weeks and started to developed a crush on him. When we finally met for a first date, I felt like I was talking way too much. At the end, I knew I would love to see him again and develop something more. I kissed him but I knew he wasn't interested in seeing me again. He didn't say it but I can just feel it after the kiss ended. I cried when I got home. We never saw each other again.
I'm sorry. That must have hurt you so much.
talk less and be less excitable the nextctime.
This young guy is so vulnerable and I really relate. I'm so much older and have not found a mate. At his age and lack of experience, he's really scared and I was touched by his vulneability.
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Absolutely heartwarming piece of cinema. It’s so hard for gay people to feel loved in this world and this piece of art really shows what waiting and waiting for someone that’s unafraid to meet up really feels like.
I agree with you
So true
Totally agree with you😥
here in the Philippines, same sex marriage is not legal but when gays live together people understand. so gays are free to do whatever they want. they can love people and people lobe them. so now i am with my bf living together and my family knows it and sometimes they stay with us together when they visit us. so nice. and people will not look at you like you're criminal.
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Thats wonderful.
Very happy for you
Went through this over 40 years ago . Thrown together , the friendship starts , the friendship gets close . You both pass boot camp and get posted together to the same base sharing the same room . The friendship gets closer. Lots of hints , lots of glances , fun wrestling in tightie whiteys , hints become undeniable. Suddenly it goes cold, still talking and hanging together in a group but it’s gone cold. Finally posted to different bases ! Say good by on the day., Me, “All right , I’m going man , see ya “ . Him in a sad voice “ Awwww no man “. Shake hands and never see or hear from him again . It was devastating ! I was 19 , now I’m 61 . Still think of him every so often.
Oooh 🥺🥺
Lmao what?
Come one tell us more
Great acting of the main character. In fact, perfect acting.
Watching gay short films was how I handled finding out who I was when I was younger, and it was always like a little safe place, like a little getaway to watch someone or people that were the same as me and we’re going through the same things that I was, and things that I may have not yet dealt with until I was older. This was such a good one!!! You could feel the weight he dealt with
*_He cried because he felt the same thing would happen when he was in high school with his first kiss. They never talk after they kissed_*
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Understandable
He cried because the could feel the polite rejection of the oder guy! "Not a see you later, but a uncompromising "See you around" To be rejected or ignored is a very painful situation!
@@Darrigrande Yes! That is exactly what I picked up from the scene. For a while, Jaime looked intensely at Ben. Jaime was longing to reach over to kiss Ben and he finally mustered the courage to do it. But the most telling sign of the "polite rejection" was that Ben simply walked away and never turned around to look back. Ben was unimpressed and he could take it or leave it. Yes, Jaime cried because he was in pain. It was another loss of anticipated dreams - thus his loneliness continues.
@@hislas2735 thank you for that explanation.
Now I understood the depiction.
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I cried. I saw myself as Jamie exactly in my early 20s. Thank you!
This is one of the most relatable things I’ve ever seen
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cried too many times like that......it gets better. My husband of 17 years is proof......Love you Jeff!
The interaction between them is subtle. Watch the smiles and the long looks. They connected on an emotional level. This caused a rush of feelings. Fear, hurt, anticipation. Beautifully done. One of my favorite shorts.
How are you doing handsome man ♥️
Lovely. And REAL. I know because I’ve totally felt this. Cried all the way home from a blind date. So many feelings knotted together
A blind date is not a dark room .....
cturtle and, patience my friend, you are certainly not alone, despite the trollish replies on here
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This era of social media dating is so foreign to me. Meeting through clubs, teams, organizations, friends, at work, even bars, provided a chance to observe someone before moving in or moving on. Deciding from photos then an isolated meet-up doesn't give much of a chance to make an impression. Poor Jamie, he obviously hoped for more, but didn't know how to ask for it.
Bear with me for a sec as I ramble.
Recently I came to this same conclusion... as of like, yesterday. I was trying to put my finger on EXACTLY what I didn't like about social media dating. And it's really that simple: you don't know them. They're a complete stranger with this entire past that you know nothing of. You have to learn all their physical quirks in that first meet-up. Whereas in person, you get the time to get to know them and get a feel for not only how they act to you, but act around others.
There's just this certain pressure with meeting online. Especially if you've already been talking for awhile; it's hard to be like "Sorry, I'm not actually interested" just after that first meetup.
Now that I think about it........... Holy shit. Most of my issues with guys I met up with were because I didn't know it existed beforehand. One hid his voice from me because it wasn't very attractive. Another hid the fact he was missing teeth. And a third was just way more flamboyant and extraverted than I was aware of, because you can't really pick up on that too much over text and call.
These would've been dealbreakers, but since I already was talking to them, it felt wrong to end communication because of one or two faulty characteristics. It's the whole foot in the door persuasion tactic.
But yeah, to your point, going from mere photos to an isolated meetup is quite the contrast. Like the character said, it's easy to flirt over text, but weird in person.
That said, the characters were quite different. Main felt young and shy, other seemed older, more wise, less serious. Romantic disconnect.
I wish every gay has the same privilege as meeting through all the media you've been mentioned above. Sadly, date apps is the only my option here :(
Where I live there are no options of bars and clubs and such (well, there are few but I am an introvert), and I don't like social media dating, so...I am lonely :(
The weight of longing and loneliness when he cried after saying goodbye.
Secondhand heartbreak is real.
I wrote a comment when I first saw this film...and somehow it didn't post. But because I was so moved by the performances, I wrote another. What I left out in my previous post is my sentiments about the kiss: a kiss - especially the first - is something most of us ponder, remember, judge, and worry over. Will it be great? will it be embarrassing? This kiss is epic. The spontaneity and tenderness, the overt ache and hunger for acceptance is palpable and so beautifully expressed in the simplest and smallest of gestures. I can't believe this could be better portrayed...and it seems impossible to accept that the two men were simply acting. BRAVO!
yes, they were marvellous and natural. you can't help but want to befriend both of them!
Yes.....I agree.....well said
Your conclusions betray you,Thomas: what gives you the certaainty they were just acting? Or that each had not felt those very moments in theur real lives and brought those pains and yearnings to the fore? A crack in your facade, that you mistrust, that your fantasies fail you, that you are much more frightened and defensive in seeing the real...please let it all hang out, you have so much to touch....
I see so much of myself in Jamie, specially after I first came out at 18. I was painfully shy and awkward and had zero self confidence. I really connect with his character so much, even to the point of crying on the platform after the date ends! ❤️❤️
How are you doing handsome man ♥️
Mini steps and overcoming those initial enormous hurdles. The feeling of the grey clouds lifting when your free is just wonderful.
Yes...but for some, those initial hurdles are overwhelming, seemingly unconquerable - but oh so necessary.
But those grey clouds live a space empty to fill in what is quite confusing at times
Yes indeed
aecollector hi 😊😘
I think every gay man had their moment like this, you met someone that sparked something in you, you liked and wanted to get close to them, they were accommodating and nice but you could tell they were not feeling as you did and when you parted you knew they weren’t going to call.
It’s such a low, heavy & exhausting feeling as want flows all over you. And you think how much more of this must I go through when all I am asking the universe for is a friend.
And it burns even more when you’re not out yet.
I've gone through this a few times in the last few months after coming out. It can hurt.
@@houndnobleman876 In today’s world of social media and dating/ hook up apps finding gay love I has become even more challenging. I cannot help but to notice the high number of gay long term relationships have become open relationships.
I grew up in a home with a mother and a father, my parents were married for 56 years until my father passed. That’s what I am looking for, someone to share the rest of my life with, someone that wouldn’t tire of me and seek the company of others but I guess that’s too much to ask for.
This is what I call the “old familiar pain” this was his first time................for gay men seeking a real connection, sweet romantic love the pain of disappointment & rejection becomes routine. Seriously, how many times can a heart bleed before it gives up. 😔
To this day, meeting people is the greatest challenge.
How right you are. We got used to seeing just “online images”, often idealised, rather that living people, living characters, souls
Probably this year I should try to ask for a confirmation. I have been in a relationship which is in discreet for 6 years now. And during this quarantine I found out he decided to get a girlfriend. At first my heart shattered, but then I realized he never mentioned we are in a relationship even though we've lived in the same roof for 6 years. Now when quarantine is over, I'm gonna pack my bags and start again, this time without him.
I just watched a movie called "The Blonde One" and this scenario just reminded me of it. I hope everything works out for you and that you get/got the clarity you wanted.
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Chaturdate Me remember you not only look fantastic my friend, you deserve more, if I was him I’d declare you to the world, you’ve put with with so much, you will find the one I’m sure if it, in the strangest places.
Hoping you a good luck on your next path my friend
That was a "see you never" kiss. For someone who's been longing for companion for years long, this is a big break of self confidence.
A "Ill see you around" means "Good by for ever" Unfortunately Jaime put too much expectations on the date! I can understand that he bursted into tears at the end!
Yes, you said what I thought too.. cute and sad at the same time...
@@Darrigrande Greed. "I'll see your around" after jamie gave him his phone number and kissed him was the sign that Jamie would never see him again. No "I'll call you tomorrow" or reciprocation in the kiss. Sad.
UGH. These short films are too good to be this short!!! 😍😂😤
For a short film this one really goes right to the heart of the anxieties. And he just doesn't get any real positive support from Ben and realizes he may never hear from him again. Only the most beautiful qualify...
BEAUTIFUL! Especially the moment he is mentally reeling after the meeting and the kiss, and the the gravity of it all --all the wondering and waiting and finally getting to experience a kiss from a man - the experience hits him and he bursts into tears (undoubtedly happy ones). That moment alone was worth watching all that led up to it. Fantastic work, all that were involved. BRAVO!
Were they happy tears, though? The way I interpreted it was that he felt the weight of being closeted and felt conflicted about having to find love in secrecy. I think a lot of gay guys can relate to that abstract feeling of wanting true happiness, while simultaneously knowing they have to tip-toe around the truth. But hey - I'm probably overanalyzing. 😅
Hal, why would you lock yourself in a cage of your own making ? My way of thinking is simple; I own people nothing. I walk this earth because my parents were fucking, no other reason. They thought maybe they were giving me life, in reality they gave me death also. So, I am here against my will, the only thing I can do is try to make the best of the time I will spend here. For me that means staying through to myself, never do concessions. I am glad I am gay, even if there was a way of chancing I would not do so ! If your parents don't accept you as you are, fuck off with them ! Same with family and friends ! I never lied about me being gay, and to tell you the truth I never had problems. There is nothing wrong being gay, it is nobodies bussinesh anyway ! I am Dutch, in Europe you can live a full live if you want, no need to hide yourself in a closet ! I like myself, I never had problems accepting myself. Why would you care what other people think off you ? There are so many people not bigoted, find you own circle of friends. I do realise things are different if you life in a different culture like the Moslimworld. In my oppinion religion has been the great curse that has afficted mankind, luckily I am free of all that shit ! I am who I am, and are happy with it, and so are hundreds of happy gays that I know !@@LosAnggraito
@@12341234W1 I cannot totally agree with you saying that religion has to be "shit". Of course, many religious people, especially the older ones, are very conservative. But you cannot generalise that. Nowadays it has changed a lot. And I am sure there are many homophobic people who are not religious, too. So please do not directly attack religion in general as I feel attaced too (and there is no way I could be homophobic lol). P.S. Sorry if there are any mistakes. English is not my mother tongue and I am currently learning it at school.
@@cwijnoogst7128 I am sorry for what happened to you boyfriend... I feel completely fine and accepted in my community! Best regards! Hope your boyfriend is okay :)
@@visakos8067 Arev, I couldn't agree with you more! Very well said. BTW... your English is fantastic!
It is very powerful. The moment when he cries at the train station. It could be a release of years of living with his 'secret' or an expression of the immense attraction he feels for this guy or the emptiness of knowing that he may not see the guy again...
I really want a second film or even a TV series of this.
I thought it was a teaser for a new show. It has great potential
You do realize, I hope, that these two are never going to see other again. That's why he's crying at the end. His hopes were dashed. So this would make a weird series: the protagonist is politely rejected at the end of each episode.
Love.......please.
A beautifully written and acted film.
It was nicely done, how the other guy didn’t lead him on and kind of gently let him know it probably won’t go further but didn’t make him feel stupid. Christ we’ve all been there.
I had tears from the kissing scene....Seeing Jamie, the warrior kiss the guy moved me......It takes courage to love someone; to love anyone.....Life is a challenge, every moment matters. Being alone matters, being with that person matters...thanks.....jeff
And for gays, it takes MORE courage to love. :(
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@@newbieyoutuber5673 like that....where are you from? I live in the USA....
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Reading First Date Feelings in London reminded me of my own story. I remember a connection that felt as intense and hopeful as a first date, even though it was with someone I knew well. We spent so much time together, and on his birthday, I gave him a gift that meant as much to me as I hoped it would mean to him-a beautifully wrapped three-tier box with a shirt, pants, and a belt. His gratitude touched me deeply, and though I was waiting for a moment of reciprocated affection that never came, the experience taught me about the strength that comes from loving openly. These are the moments that shape us, even if they leave us with a bittersweet ache. Love sometimes closes doors, but it also opens our hearts to who we are and what we hope for.
1st class filmmaking with exceptional acting from the leads. The kiss at 06:53 Jamie had been wanting to do from the moment he set eyes on Ben. Sexual attraction between gay strangers is hinted at from how close Jamie stands alongside Ben as they walk, and Director Christopher Manning and his fine lead, Sebastian Christophers do a magnificent job of portraying Jamie’s yearning for intimacy and his sense of love lost with his first boy. Ben, on the other hand, is an out and active gay man, a little worn from the night before at a gay venue, who is sympathetic to Jamie but not there to tutor him or act as mentor; the rejection, kind and quiet though it may have seemed, is still painful for Jamie. The grey monochrome, almost black and white image, at the end of Jamie silhouetted against the light, is a sad comment on trying to live a less than fulfilling life through gay apps.
Thanks for that. I didn't quite get this story but your explanation helped.
Well said
Just loved your explanation, I totally felt that last moment on his house
Totally agree
what is it that makes it so painful in meeting when you are gay: why is the rejection thought to be more intense: why is the happiness needed to be more happy: the sadness more suffocating: there seems to be more at stake in meeting another gay guy: as if this is theone and only,then it is another 'only': I hate it with such intensity that I fea it as if am Ceasar about to be stabbed....
When he cried I felt it so hard.
Movies touch our lives , you discover that everything in movies is real , so real..some people came in our lives only to walk away at a speed of light .so you are left wondering if you ever did something wrong to them.
I am not sure what message this film conveys but the acting is superb. I sensed a strong feeling of loneliness throughout on the part of Jamie, and especially at the end when he cried which just tore me up. The loneliness is something I am only too familiar with. You are left to guess whether anything came of this meeting afterwards.
Did he finally grieve about John? That's my understanding.
I can literally feel the gravity of that cry 😭
Jamie is all of us who quest and query - at that palpable moment of failing yet fulfilling in love. Beautifully nuanced acting and writing.
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Yes, thank you Scott
When he cried at the station, I totally felt it 😔
Why did he cry? I couldn't understand all the words so maybe I missed the central theme
am i the only one that think the main guy look a little bit like Eddie Redmayne? lol
his eyes and mouth
I thought the same thing! 😍
And the other one looks like Rami Malek
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lol he looks like my 12 year old boyfriend 😍
This main character is so f---ing handsome and such a great actor! I'm out of words.
Love and wanting to be loved is not a game. It should never be treated casually or as unimportant. It should never be dismissed. Living in a porn-centric culture can make one forget that.
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@1GoldRunner Here's what you do: get some shorts and a tank top and go to the gym. Talk to your work-out neighbours. Go dancing. Talk to people. Buy someone a drink. Join a club or sports league. Play a game. Talk to your teammates. Take a class. Talk to your colleagues. Audition for a play. Talk to your cast mates. Join a choir...
i agree!!!!
Leftatalbuquerque agreed sets you up for 30s with good gay friend s
Leftatalbuquerque yeah well porn is only acting... It's not like that IRL... Also the ones who dismiss it are the ones not really looking for it
I get that, the built-up anxiety, longing, needing for that person that reason to make all the suffering worth it. Beautifully presented and clear raw emotion displayed. I feel you Jamie, I see You 💖👑💖
That moment when he cried at the station, totally relatable😢. I cry myself when I get frustrated not knowing the true meaning of happiness. Studying in London while also looking around but so far, its just 😶.. Well, life goes on..
Loved this film!! Very natural acting and nicely shot! Well done!!
Damn the facial expressions these actors are making go so well with the deliveries of their lines! Makes it so much more believable. Plus the are taking their time with their dialogue, which helps with the delivery because they aren't trying to force their lines.
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Matty, I could not have said it better
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The script was good but the acting was FANTASTIC!
The feeling of needing to be loved the first time. So intense.
Do you have gf nowadays?
Reminds me of when I was travelling across southern Spain last February where I met the perfect guy. It was my first time with a guy and it was magical. He said he had never seen someone smile so much. I don't know if I'll ever see him again :(
so... did you meet him?
@@meteorilorenzo nope. He has a bf and I'm happy for him. I haven't been lucky when it comes to love. I just ended a potential relationship yesterday. I didn't want to but I had to :(
@@pass2pee I'm sorry. Sometimes it happens, we have to accept it. One day you will find someone that makes you smile like the Spanish guy. Don't be negative. A big hug for you. 😘
@@meteorilorenzo not that the last guy didn't make me smile. He's actually much better than the Spanish guy. I just wish we met at different time of our lives. I promise that I'll reply with a smile next time haha! Thanks for the well wishes. Big hug to you too.
@@pass2pee What? Nobody is much better than a Spanish Guy! 😂😂😂😂
This film is amazing ❤❤❤. Congrats to the producer ,director and all the crew members of this film
love the chemistry between these 2. Good actors like them make you care immediately, & all that in 9 minutes - BRAVO!
Growing up and first experiences are tough. Excellent movie!
Oh.... the internal battles we fight in an attempt to figure who we are and our role in this life. I remember those years but, never wish to relive them. Love is love and a good life is love.
Wonderful film!!!
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With such marvelous directing and truly excellent performances, the impact is deeply felt in such a short film. For me, the moment that renders this drama unforgettable is the kiss. Its power is felt through its beauty as well as Jamie's aching desire for the contact, the acceptance...wearing his fear of rejection and taking the risk of such intimacy in his expression and spur-of-the-moment action. Amplifying the scene is the slight but powerfully moving lean-in from Ben - his expression near ecstatic with the contact. It's the slightest of movements, yet it speaks an undeniable emotion. His gentle smile as he pulls away confirms a moment of magic between the two. I wonder if the subsequent tears is the fear of his personal history of rejection - or being "ghosted" - once again coming to pass.
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I agree Thomas.....perfectly said........I thought the same.
Your eloquence, your perceptions, your emotional sensitivity Thomas, makes you so attractive so I know you will read my fears and anxieties and quiet them all when you touch my ear to swat a fly away: but, too, your words flow with such ease that they do also make them difficult to penetrate and touch you in non-deflected fashion: la voix dans l'éscalier is all I can feel as I admire your defenses...here, far from you, in Paris, I can respond with a gentle touché: I await your repost, dear Patroclus.
I think Jamie's crying was when he finally let go of John and the past. He decided to move forward with his life. Wether his new friend stays in touch or not doesn't matter, he kissed him in public with other people around and nothing bad happened. I saw the new guy as curious and interested in Jamie but concerned that John could later get a backbone and want Jamie back.
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El llanto desconsolado de Jaime me conmovió. El desamor gay a flor de piel.
What a lovely short film. It brings to life the genuine awkwardness and uncertainty of a first date between two ordinary people. Left wondering how things went after.
How are you doing handsome man ♥️
@@sylvesterforson1362 Needing cuddles, but otherwise not bad here.
I want this film redone! Where this actor finds a guy that loves him. A feel good movie. How could you not like him? He is lonely and needs someone who he has a chance to develop a relationship with and ends on a positive note. We viewers need it too!!
Making a real life connection can be so difficult 😩 really enjoyed this film ♥️
The feels... reminds me of my first date with my now fiancé
At the end of the date as we parted, it was almost regretful because we never wanted it to end. I think once alone again afterwards we both cried having found what we thought (and still do) is the 'one' for us.
This short film was a nice reminder to cast my mind back those few years and remember how it all began! Thank you :)
Georgeous, tender, heart-breaking... Gosh! All the feels!!!
The ending SLAYED me: yet another disappointment; another false start? Poor Jamie! Sam Atkinson (who has the most beautiful mouth) gives a lovely performance.
MASTERPIECE.. WE ALL HAVE BEEN THERE... GAY OR NOT! AND THE European thing really drives it for me too!
Very emotional video. I experienced something similar myself several times in my youth. Not even my eyes remained dry when Jamie understood that the heart will not get the love it desires. It hurts a lot.
I don't understand why people interpret his tears as pain or disappointment. This is clearly a mix between relief, hapiness, and probably a bit of fear too. He's overwhelmed, not sad.
I think so too.
He won't be seeing they other guy anymore. It's a kind but still painful rejection.
or frustrated that the guy left.........instead of further actions in bed?
I agree, Emilie. I couldn't have said it better.
It seemed to be tears of humiliation and rejection to me. Jamie knew Ben was not interested in him and probably wouldn't speak to him again, which you could work out from Ben's reactions to Jamie saying things that revealed his age and lack of experience (like lying about going to gay bars, revealing that he lives with his father and younger brother, his story about his first kiss when Ben was really asking about his first sexual experience, the unenthusiastic way Ben kissed him goodbye and the finality and coldness in him saying "see you around").
So hard to watch as a parent you just cry along with them. Beautifully acted.
Excellent! It took me way back!
Now that was a beautiful kiss - so sweet and innocent. How lovely!
This is well done. Acting is great and it draws you in emotionally. I love being left with the idea of what happened after they met up for their first date.
Beautiful performance from them both!
Im..speechless! I mean what a masterpiece!
I can feel his pains and griefs ! Made me cry
Really beautiful and thought provoking, nice to see short films to be made on such topics someone really talking about the toxicity that one has ro handle while being the part of LGBTQIA+ Community
It's amazing how quickly a smile opens up and brightens the day.
This was so well directed; acting was top-notch too. A short albeit touching short film!
Thank you for such a heartwarming film on the first time we kissed another man. Mine was at the age of 22 when I was a tour guide across Canada and met a guy while staying at a hotel in Kamloops, BC in the 70's. I had a big smile the next morning as my 45 tourists got on the bus. I never saw the guy after but will always remember my first time. I hope he managed to find a forever love. It took me until the age of 35 and I married my love once we could in 2003 in Montreal. We were together 28 years. He was the love of my life and I miss him every day now that he is at the Rainbow Bridge taking care of our 7 adopted scotties, 3 westies and 2 cats. Duane is still watching over me.....
That Ben is so handsome oh lord, I got butterflies in my stomach just by watching this
He is .have you seen another work of him or anywhere else?
I love this film. Beautiful. Thanks!!!
I remember when I had “that talk” to my mother.. she said “do not tell your father”... All I can think about is how lonely Jamie feels. He does not trust anyone. He really believes he’s worthless! That’s so sad! He cried at the station because he knows that coming back home kills him inside. It’s not about John.. really.. John is a free man.. he is past that in the closet story.. it’s all about the possibility of getting out of that situation.. Jamie must go away from that poisoning environment.
Veramente bello....... DOLCISSIMO...... racconto di come sia difficile trovare non solo la felicità , ma la possibilità di darla ad altri..... complimenti a chi lo ha realizzato
why i am here , i am girl , but when he cried i really felt that , i met a guy online and went to see him , first he ignored me by playing with his phone and then watching the tv in restaurant as i didnt even exist , and then after that i said i will go home now , and then i cried on the way home . This part of the movie reminded of that :(
Don't worry Samima - that guy didn't deserve you! We've all cried in this situation before. It hurts... but you get better afterwards, you'll see :)
This is very real and grounded. It helps that the 2 leads are not muscle greek gods. They look and act like real average people.
Beautiful story line and acting too 👏👏 loved it
It was hearthbreaking seeing Jamie crying...
It brings up so many memories!
Beautiful story. I met my husband in 1997. I was 20 years old and he was 44. He was my first man. We were together for 23 years,(even after I transitioned in 2018) until he passed away of cancer in 2020. I love him and always will. It was not all happiness in 23 years, but I will do it all over again. RIP Danny, love of my life.
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Well done! I haven't seen a Pecadillo film that wasn't. This managed to be short but engaging, endearing, and sort of depressing. But we needed a short film on this subject: an inexperienced teen going from chatting on an app to meeting, being attracted, and experiencing polite rejection in person.
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Authentic look at a young guy struggling to come out in a less than safe family situation. Rang true to me.
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