NEW BEST PRIMARY WEAPONS AND PATCH CHANGES TESTED IN HELLDIVERS 2
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
- HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE CHANGES THIS PATCH?
0:00 - INTRO
0:08 - CB 9 EXPLODING CROSSBOW (NERFED HARD)
2:27 - BR 14 ADJUDICATOR (NEW BEST FOR AUTOMATONS?)
6:34 - WHAT THEY NEED TO DO WITH THE RIFLES
7:34 - SG 8P PUNISHER PLASMA (STILL BAD)
9:29 - ARC 12 BLITZER (NEW STAGGER KING ON TERMINID)
10:03 - R 36 ERUPTOR (POSSIBLE NERF COMING FOR IT)
10:42 - LAS 5 SCYTHE (NOT GREAT BUT LASERS)
11:05 - R 63 DILIGENCE (STILL NOT GREAT)
11:14 - R 63CS DILIGENCE COUNTER SNIPER (NOT BAD FOR AUTOMATONS)
12:25 - SECONDARY WEAPONS
12:42 - P 4 SENATOR ( NEW BEST SECONDARY FOR AUTOMATONS)
13:34 - QUASAR CANNON "NERFED"
14:15 - LAS 98 LASER CANNON (NO REAL CHANGE)
14:35 - RAILGUN (NERFED YET AGAIN)
17:02 - GUARD DOG ROVER (STILL GREAT)
17:15 - HULK NOW ALMOST STAGGER PROOF
17:49 - SPORE TREES NOW STRONGER
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The state of the primary weapons and the constant nerfs killed so much fun for me after my +300 hours. Played 7 hours in the last 12 days. So like nothing.
I feel that, almost 700 hours now and the primary's feel like they stay stationary even after changes, which just kills the continued play time.
Choose your words carefully Diver. Implying the Scorcher is better than that worthless Punisher Plasma means they will nerf the Scorcher...
Blitzer is my new favorite primary for the bugs
Yeah I've always liked it, but now it feels so much better and fun. I'm so impatient, so the faster fire rate is nice. Just sucks bc I main amr and need something more reliable for chargers lol
@@TheMMObromy loadout is sickle, quasar cannon, energy shield, eagle cluster and orbital laser. it works for me I jus really hope they don’t need the sickle
@@AKIRA-oz5cgthis is what I usually run also
The game is beautiful the maps are beautiful, the gameplay and destruction beautiful, the weapons are TRASH 😔 STOP NERFING.
1000%
Railgun is 3 leg or headshots on a charger in unsafe mode. You no longer need to let it charge to 95%. Just let it go a TINY bit higher than safe mode allows.
They made it less of a skill weapon.
In my opinion this is exactly what they want to do with this. Which heavy killers are ANY good to use vs mediums? Recoilless? Spear? EAT? Quasar? It’ll kill one, then there are 7 more behind it.
The railgun is FOR mediums with the ability to pull double duty and stretch to heavies. Not ideal for titans. This puts it about in line with the flamethrower. You can take out 6 chargers without any ammo pickups. It’ll also rapidly deal with distant mediums. It’s got a solid niche!
Not sure how I feel about the stagger change. But, the weapon design here is solid.
couldn’t have said this better 🙏🏽✔️@zero11010
I feel like its too niche. For me there is always a better option than the railgun. I have not been running it at all and I didn't even know about the nerf
@@poggersman3346 try a primary that focuses on littles. Any assault weapon. Sickle. Scythe. Any DMR. A breaker. Bring the railgun for mediums. Bring EAT for heavies. Practice the unsafe charge up. You want it to BARELY get into unsafe mode. Just a little outside of safe. Hit charger legs and watch them break. If your EAT is on cooldown this works fine. Meanwhile you’ve got the ability to one shot ALL mediums with that railgun.
As you get more comfortable with the railgun it’ll be easier to use it on chargers and titans.
It was always good for bots. Very precise shots.
Fundamentally, this is what the game wants players to do. “I have this weapon for these things. I have that weapon for these other things”.
It's a support weapon competing with other support weapons. Many would still stick with the rockets or quasar over it because weapons like the adjudicator can do it's job easier and you can spawn in with it instead of as a stratagem. imo it really should be boosted half back to it's original state with most of it's dmg restored. Why? Because of the power creep other weapons have that now RG struggles to find it's place in the roster of weapons that can do it's job better.
@@ythandlename I’m over level 120. I pretty much only do difficulty 9 and only do full clears. Even with quick play with bad randoms who don’t have mics, don’t play well, and are often about a quarter of my level.
I take different loadouts all the time. I intentionally do not take an optimal build. The flamethrower can be great. So can the arc thrower. At their core, those are for mediums and lights. So, you would still need a solution for heavies. (Flame thrower is great with chargers, and the arc thrower eventually gets it done). This is the same basic niche as the railgun.
I bring an optimal loadout when I play with friends and we specifically want to push (like completing 40 minute missions and seeing how close we can get to doing a full clear in 10 minutes … we challenge ourselves to find our own games at this point). But, most of the time I’m exploring build options. There really is room for a thing like the railgun.
It’s fun to experiment with stuff. You’ll learn a lot that way. 👍
Great videos, thanks for making them! Adjudicator is my primary for both bugs and automotons
On point great suggestions for adjustments
Very helpful video. Working out best weapons for enemy type is complex for the new player and your video has some nice suggestions on playing and winning the game.
Hey man! Thanks for this video. Im lvl 120 and ive tested these changes but you still help me see some things i didnt realize or think of. Appreciate it and thanks to contributing to the gaming community.
Really spot on comments for the damage for the Marksman rifles, and slugger. I actually switched back to the standard liberator and autocanon + grenade pistol for all missions.
If stagger is what you mostly care about in the railgun you're using it wrong, the recent patch has brought its damage back in unsafe mode which allows you to kill chargers with 3 shots to the head. Against bile titans it was never really good but taking 8 or 10 shots to kill it rather than basically its entire ammunition beforehand is a massive improvement.
Before the patch you could kill charger in 3 shots, you just probably never used it before the patch so you didn't notice it
@@adrios7943 it was less consistent and had to be at a max charge, now you only have to be slightly above the safe mode to get full damage.
@@sparebrains115 not max charge just 80% but still that was not what you said, you said "allows you to kill chargers with 3 shots to the head" implying that it was not possible before which is just false so for the people that could do 80% consistently these changes will feel like a nerf since now they lost the stagger, overall is still a bad weapon compared to other options you can bring that do the same job but much better
@@adrios7943 pointing it out because this video shows safe mode 7 charger shots which makes the gun look like a waste of time.
@@TheGooseOnYT he did say it can kill it in 3 shots but was only showcasing that safe mode now has heavy armor pen although it does less damage than on unsafe mode, before update safe mode did nothing to a charger’s head so that’s what he was trying to showcase
Man I really hope they add a scope customization or swap option. Even if we don't get any new scopes I'd be happy slapping the AR scope on the snipers with a 100-200m range option
Honestly man you’re one of the better RUclipsrs for Helldivers imo. You have really good takes and explain your reasoning well. Been subscribed since the beginning of Helldivers. Keep up the good work and those subs are going to keep growing!
Saying Plasma Punisher is bad rn is CRAZY. It's not my first choice against bugs granted, but against bots it's GOATed. Especially after the recent buff to striders, this is easily the best primary for dealing with striders and even devastators possibly now. It two shots striders anywhere, even on their legs, has less damage fall off so it's incredibly easy to take out small bots, and entire groups of them. Finally it staggers the hell out of devastators, even entire groups of them and will kill them in 3-5 shots stunlocking them the entire time.
Plasma Punisher really pops off against heavy shield devastators especially, and will stunlock and kill them THROUGH their shield, and this is basically the best weapon in the game for dealing with them outside of the autocannon. You hit them with that AOE anywhere and they stop doing that aimbot nonsense. Finally it's worth bringing up that you can hit the weak spot on tanks very easily with them and kill them even if they're facing towards you. Shredder (laser) tanks in particular go down really easily to this thing.
Right now Plasma Punisher is just amazing against bots, and I would even say it's the best primary right now "META-wise". It does the jobs you need a primary to do so well, it makes up for the short range and lack of utility very handily.
Was going to write up this statement, great to see someone took the job for me :)
Yea it’s crazy rn im loving it
I totally agree. I use the Plasma Punisher as a main right now. I love the change and it feels great. Constantly taking out groups and the stagger is great
Good to know
Love the content brother! I have a great build for you: Eruptor, redeemer, stuns, laser rover, stalwart, EAT and 500kg. I also use grenade armor to make the stalwart a laser. Stalwart becomes a primary, Eruptor takes all medium bugs and the EAT for chargers. It’s so much fun and really good too!😎
The Blitzer is so much fun to use!
Great review. Do you have a sort of graphic showing the overall rankings you just gave?
100% agree on what you said about the rifles. I have no idea why some people continue to believe the countersniper is anything more than underwhelming, and what you suggested would absolutely make the other rifles worth using. I shouldn't feel like the choice of my primary should be an easy or obvious one, but right now it just feels like it is. Nothing else is really worth using aside from the top 3-4 options.
I miss seeing these types of videos again. 😊
My BR14 shoots high(hits above the crosshair) on 100 zoom and single shot, but seems to shoot dead-on or a hair low on the other zoom levels. On full auto I gotta aim at the nuts to hit center mass
The nerfs need to stop. It’s so much to keep up with. Put out the new weapons, make them relatively powerful and useful in their own right, and then leave em alone. I miss railgun 😢
Exaclty. It makes us go through everything again to look for one that suits out gameplay. Going through everything again is not enjoyment, it's irritating and time wastage.
Nerfs like this ruin a game and player retention. It's completely stupid on so many levels.
More new weapons coming in a few days.
@@fi7959 they all look mediocre. Maybe im just hating though.
@@sxna4420 Nah. They really are. And with constant nerfs and a horde of asinine defenders justifying the anti fun practices, it's hard to even hype or care about said weapons.
I hope the don’t drop any more damage radius of the eruptor that thing is my baby takes the place of my grenades for bug holes and deletes brood commanders. Also takes out chargers like that if you get those booty shots.
The base rifle you get is surprisingly really good right now. I thought I was gonna be struggling with it in. Impossible to helldive missions.
Think you might be confusing the misalignment of the scopes with the zeroing of it.
Laser cannon takes longer to kill tanks, turret towers, and gunships because of the reduced damage against large volume bodies change. It most likely would take longer to kill factory striders when shooting the underside though i haven't tested this because of the disappointment I've gotten when using this against those other large enemies.
I miss the old crossbow
Thank you fellow human for a review of all ordinance and equipment, i will use this knowledge to its maximum potential in the one sided fight with the robo-chads
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I was actually beginning to feel like at least the medium rifles were getting to a better place, but I think what you said makes more sense. A lot of things just need more to feel necessary. The railgun is sad. frag grenades have no use. If they're worried about solo heldivers getting bored, they can add the other 6 difficulty levels they had in the first game. But balanced weapons for viable variety is what will keep me invested in this game.
This man only makes good videos
the weapon balancing and balancing is one of the most frustrating things in this game, I hope that people keep giving feedback about underused and underpowered weapons. So we have more fun things to use instead of the same handful of guns they will eventually nerf for some reason.
They need to stop nerfing everything because the guns are not design to be that way especially when it comes to the hordes on the higher difficulties'.
Ngl for the Railgun, it has a pretty decent niche which is killing Devastators, Berserkers and Hulks really fast and ammo efficiently. The AC requires a Backpack and a long reload, the Laser Cannon is good but one shot punches your concentrated fire away and it’s useless on hot planets.
At least for my games of 7+, the amount of Devastators that spawn and spam rockets and MGs that not even Stratagems can hold against, a dedicated weapon for them to reliant 1 shot is good for me. And the ergonomics of it is better than the AMR and it’s sights are not misaligned.
I don’t think the stagger was what made it tolerable. I’d rather they just remove stagger all together for it and have it do significantly more damage on Unsafe mode and reserve that super stagger for the Arc Thrower.
What I especially don’t understand is that the AC and Laser Cannon can destroy gunships but a Railgun can’t? I don’t know why they can’t make the Railgun a dedicated 1 shot beast at the cost of blowing yourself up. Or at this point, just make it a primary?
AMR is currently the better weapon (even with misaligned sights if you get used to them) due to it being able to deal with more enemy types. Even shooting the vents on any heavy automaton unit is more efficient using the AMR. The real shame is it's inability to deal with gunships and factory striders in any meaningful way.
It's ability to handle devastators and hulks is definitely great. I agree.
I would love the change you suggested, "... remove stagger all together for it and have it do significantly more damage on Unsafe mode" I would not care about the stagger if it simply did more damage on unsafe mode. Especially at 80%+ charge.
texture of adjudicator handguard becomes transparent.mainly reloading.
love ur vids bro somewhat due to all the useful info and gameplay but lowkey u scare me a lil
The laser cannon definitely got impacted on larger targets. It used to be capable of rather decently popping Spewers's sac and Chargers backside. It now takes wayyyy longer, and made it much less fun to use against bugs personally tbh.
Same for automaton, tanks/turrets take less damage from it.
The blitzer feels amazing and crossbow now sucks. Oh how the monkey paw curls
Devs would have to be brain dead to nerf anything after this recent Sony debacle
What I don’t understand is why are they trying to balance the weapons as if this is multiplayer? If magazine capacity and amount was an issue then simply decrease the amount of ammo found in the field.
This also includes increase the recharge time of stratagems forcing players to use them more efficiently than just dropping a 500k bomb on a small enemy patrol but then a spawn of 3 chargers and 2 bile titans appear out of nowhere.
Ammo sharing between players would be nice but I can see that being a hassle. Reason I brought this up was because very rarely I ever see players use the back pack supply stratagem.
cuz people don't use some options cuz some are just simply better, why buff every weapon while you can nerf one slightly and buff the other tiny amounts?
The incendiary shotgun needs a fire buff because that fire doesn't work effectively at all
Thank God, an actual video that has to do with helldivers content. Breath of fresh air to see any kind of content that has nothing to do with the controversy..
This game is dead anyway if they don't stop this psn bullshit.
@Aleks96 The fact of the matter is most gamers are not paying attention to this. Over fifty percent of the player base are playstation users anyway. And don't really care unfortunately. Now you take the rest of the pc users.And how many of those do you think will not make an account and uninstall. Heck there are only two hundred thousand negative reviews out of the eight million sold And even then those 200k I'm sure there's only a small portion that will stop playing. It's just going to be up to Sony to decide if they want the negative p.R or wait for the next big thing to draw everyone's attention away.
@@ard9941 "most gamers" brother why are half of the overall steam reviews negative then?
@Harristar88 200k out of 4 million PC copies sold. And out of the 8 million total, including PS5. And out of all that, How many of the 200 k are going to not play? The only way for Sony to backpedal on this is for actual player engagement to go down Or if they just do not want the p r disaster for the next week or so.
@Aleks96 people still play the game, and don't need to review bomb and whine about it. Cope, play or don't.
Reckon i just drop hulks too fast to notice them being frustrating 💥💥😎💥💥
Punisher plasma is amazing against automatons due to killing scout striders and stunlocking devastators, even through the heavy devastators shield
The plasma is awesome! I get 400 plus kills on level 7
Railgun is so fun to use. Chargers are 3 head shots in unsafe mode or 2 shots to strip leg armor off. Brood commanders, spewers, hive guards. . . 1 head shot. Dont ever use it in safe mode
I think the adjudicator is in a great spot right now and doesnt need buffed. Remember that it's a primary and you are *SUPPOSED TO* bring support weapons and stratagems for the more difficult enemies
I really like the idea of making the Counter Sniper have the damage of the Slugger and lowering the rate of fire.
I would’ve made the Adjudicator the same damage as the Diligence, 36 round mag and made it a 3 round burst - it’s got BR in its name after all.
Give the Diligence an extra 5 rounds and the damage of the Counter Sniper.
Im just glaf the blotzer got a huge fire rate buff feels so much better
What do you mean, they're all trash.
ARROWHEAD IS LISTENING
If the community says a gun is good they nerf it. Give us a fuckin chance lol
I think you need to try the plasma punisher out on bots. It’s a real heavy hitter.
Yea bots for sure it is terrible on the bugs I think plasma is just better for bots just like fire is better for bugs
any primary can kill a charger easiest ?
Thank you for your work. I don't get it why a lot of people are crying about the changes in the game. It's evolution and new challenges for us 😅
Because a lot of gamers are grown babies
woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh man how tf your head got in the game. wild
This is what happens when you hire a game designer from the very coherently designed Hello Neighbor 2 to be your balance head.
From my experience, if you need a balancing committee, you're doing it wrong.
pair the punisher plasma with the laser guard and stun granade and your shredding through termides ;) remember not to make direct hits and use the splash to your advantage. Ammo is not a single issue with resupply ;)
With that build, you are forced to take a HMG or something like it to address the times you get surrounded instead of taking EATs to deal with heavies. The PP and stun grenades do you no good when bugs get up close. That’s why I feel any Breaker variant is superior.
@@E3.20 pair it with heavy medic armor and your pretty much unkillable ;)
they always do the same thing, they drop a new weapon, but nerf it after a week cause they are good, and they want bad weapons...
A raging Reaper.
..... playing video games. What a badass. :D
Dominator for bots incendiary breaker for bugs until further notice 🗣🗣🗣
Incendiary breaker is also solid against bots surprisingly.
Adjudicator is absolutely awesome in semi auto mode
Plasma punisher is the best weapon in the game, I use it more than the scorcher. Another honorable mention is the Blitzer, absolutely fantastic now just to fuck around with. The scorcher is still fun, but the plasma punisher is my go-to the past few days because of the stun/ stagger effect and AOE damage. The fire rate can be a pain at first, and the need to arc the weapon takes some getting used to but it’s a great primary weapon that has a support utility 👍 just don’t use it at close range much
Greatest weakness of the scythe is that it doesn't go pew pew.
But it goes beeeeewwwwoooooooo
I dont mind railgun not stunning hulks
I think the scope alignment might be based off the zero you select for it. So much of the community has been moaning about balance and the warbond sucks so we might be seeing a big overhaul this month
They want to make all the good weapons unusable in a PVE game.
Good thoughts on the diligence counter sniper and setting a scale for DMR weapons! It feels like they’re moving in a mild pay to win direction (it’s less offensive because super credits can be earned in game). Weapons in paid war bonds seem to outperform things outside.
It’s mild. It’s not the end of the world. You can certainly make your way through difficulty 9 with basic gear. In my opinion that just means they’re doing it right. There seems to a slight advantage to items in those “paid” war bonds over the general one. I think this is to make people who do pay money feel happy about money spent (there should be an advantage to paying for war bonds instead of paying money to just … not use that stuff).
Penetrator should become a marksmen rifle.
Crossbow should get the penetrator's old AOE shrapnel and Hole killing.
First i gotta ask, do you hate the nerfs, if so, then heres another question
Why then blow more weapons to the spotlight if that had already proven to nerf weapons
Strong disagree on plasma shotgun. Having tested it after the recent buff it is more than viable on Helldive difficulty. It one shots hunters and smaller bugs, 2 shots warriors, 4 shots stalkers and staggers them. The splash radius is great for dealing with smaller bugs and sometimes I even get up to 4 kills with a single shot if they are all clustered, the trick is to shoot the ground not the bugs themselves (if you are dealing with smaller bugs that is). It is also extremely effective against bile spewers which is what you completely ignored. Claiming that Scorcher has 10 times the accuracy because you have to "arc over" plasma is straight up silly after the latest buff to plasma's velocity. I have zero issues hitting targets at ranges with it.
Medium 2armor. HMG and AMR still take the spore trees down.
Moping a floor that wasn't swept or properly swept is definitely pain.... 😴
The adjudicator is close to being a real primary weapon. No reason for it to not have both flashlight and laser, and it desperately needs a higher mag cap. Appropriate size would be 40-45, anything higher I feel would indirectly take away purpose of MG’s, and if it had these changes would be such a nice prinary
yep. worst decision was the increased patrols for solos. cant keep players from dropping, can barely join games. wanted a full solo option because most players flat suck
That’s just not true. You the only one on the planet that’s good?
The game wasn't meant to be played solo. And they only changed it to what it was meant to be. Set your game to private if you don't want players to join or kick anyone that does.
It's hard to believe if you can HD solo, you can't complete it with pugs. I got friends that can barely solo a medium mission and contribute in their own way in HD as long as I play well. I'd not mind a solo mod, but it's still possible to dive solo. Just harder.
He’s just mad they don’t listen to HIM
It's a multiplayer game. And they want to keep it mostly that way.
the Counter-Sniper has been my anti-bot weapon since day one
Also if you switch to your primary for the "Queso cannon" it recharges to it normal time pre patch.
Oh shit thanks for letting me know
Railgun feels bad. I took it on a mission and ended up not using it
How are you using it? If you charge it Unsafe mode for Bots it 1 shots many of the Devastators, Berserkers, Striders and Hulks. They are the most common enemies and are the ones that cause the most problems.
The the past week ive consistently had entire teams just quit on level 8 difficulty when we run into shrieker nests or airbases. Its very frustrating. I end up literally having to run in and use up all 3 of my airstrikes and both my 500kgs just to kill 3 shrieker nests..... thats honestly ridiculous and they need to do something about that. As for airbases if its not rushed by everyone or 1 dummy stumbles upon it and waits around instead of stopping everything and trying to take it out... 100% of the time my entire teams quit. With the excessive number of flyers combined with back to back to back to back to back patrol spawns i see my entire screen full of enemies no matter where you look and everyone just quits bc the weapons arent powerful enough to keep up with the numbers being pumped out. And no, its not a skill issue, this is a team player game, its assumed youll be playing with 3 randos and should be balanced AS that. So ya, that is the realistic entailment of the past week or 2 playing.... and thats if the game even matches you with another team mate much less getting 4 before a level is over due to losing so much playerbase bc of sony.
Honestly autocannon is my best friend when it comes to shrieker nests + gunships
2 shots to gunship engines and like a magazine into the shrieker nests, just need to spot them from a couple hundred meters and melt them from distance
where scorcher??
How he shot two out the sky and didn't get squished i do not know
Arc blitzer 4 bugs and Jar domintor 4 bots, these are my primaries after the patch
I love the ark blitzer. Only problem with it is it seems to not kill stalkers when they are invisable. It's weird. Laser cannon is one of my main bot support weapons. It definitely got an increase in damage. It takes down small and med bots faster, so better in bots, which it was already doing well there. Better at killing small and med bugs, but cannot kill chargers well now. Will not use it in bugs. For the love of christ please save the rail cannon. Ur right, its shit and thats unfortunate. Im lvl 120 and have 440hrs in the game. But still appreciate these differences in perspective. Thanks
The plasma shotgun is great. No idea what you're on about with that one.
Truer words never spoken about the Diligence sniper. WTF are these devs doing ignoring balancing primaries and fixing their targeting?
I am losing more interest in this game every update... I swear if we get more nerfs without buffs, I'm uninstalling again.
I hate that rifles handle like shotguns, have as much bullet drop as shotguns and take so many rounds to kill enemies. It's like rifles in the future are 10x less capable than rifles in the present. The Jar-5 Dominator went from heh to meh.
The best gun is what works for you and your play style. Almost every weapon is viable in this game so the concept of best weapon is redundant.
When you have to say almost your argument falls flat. Every situation has a best in slot option.
Adjudicator seems much more useful.
Dominator or Adjudicator vs bots?
Gonna be up to if you want the stagger with dominator, or full auto and ranged playstyle with adjudicator, because both have the stopping power for bots
I feel like the adjudicator just needs a recoil buff, because dear fuckin god its so bad
It's good they change and balance constantly. Keeps the game more interesting by adding variability and constantly keeps the "meta" builds and weapons changing - love it. Hundreds of hours with the Railgun and SG-225 Breaker, no thanks. Choosing by far worse weapons just to keep it interesting, not so fun as the fact they change things constantly.
Your Voice kills me every time . Sounds like 65 but you look like 17 XD
I run the punisher plasma on difficulty 9 (I switch primary almost every round and rotate through everything). I enjoy it. It offers capabilities that none of the other primaries have with the grenade/mortar play style.
What does it take to deal with a fat green armored bile spewer with a breaker incendiary? How about two at once? Liberator penetrator? Crossbow? Scorcher? I’m not picking on terrible stuff (except maybe crossbow). These are better than average primaries for armor. With the plasma shotgun you can group them and take out both with less than half a mag.
On levels where you deal with these a half dozen at a time that’s huge.
Crowd control is really easy with this. Each time you fire, fire two shots. Play with the spacing. Overlap will kill stuff. But, the stagger on this is no joke. The stagger is the whole deal of the liberator concussive. You’ll toss around brood commanders and stalkers. The stagger stops littles and mediums from spitting.
Take another look at it. It’s absolutely not best in slot. But, it’s very capable and it does much better at handling both littles and mediums than almost anything else.
Plus, it feels great hitting those distant shots.
I’m in your discord. Happy to run some 9s with you. You bring scorcher. I’ll bring the punisher plasma. Should be fun! Scorcher is one of the best primaries. I feel like if the plasma shotgun is close it’s doing well.
As an eruptor main I felt the nerf immediately
Used to be the only weapon I’d bring. I’m still experimenting for myself,
I felt it also. FeelsBadMan
I’m an Eruptor main and tbh it didn’t feel that bad. Whenever I “needed” to resupply I was at a comedic 7/12 mags. There’s so much loose ammo on the ground and resupplies a plenty. I’ve recently pivoted to Eruptor/Stalwart on bug 9s to help with the “hmm I think I might need some ammo soon” feeling. Plus I feel like the Stalwart is just an overall better experience when those Hunters start nipping at your toes. I love me a panic CQC explosion with the Eruptor like any user, but you can only do so many before killing yourself or being eaten alive.
@@KyleGutz with constant changes, I feel I am experimenting more than actually enjoying the game.
@@debajyotinath5021 yeah I feel that, it’s a lil frustrating and I can’t seem to find something I’m comfortable with.
the crossbow explosive cant penetrate medium amor like scorcher and punisher plasma explosive, thats a shame, you can only kill medium targer thank to the projectile that have medium amor pierce, so trash weapon ngl
Bro, your analysis on the Punisher Plasma is just dead wrong. I used it on a level 7 blitz mission with random teammates last night. We ended up getting a full map clear and I had 452 kills and no deaths...in a 12 minute mission. The weapon struggles a bit with hunters since they like to fan out, but that's why you pair it with the guard dog rover. The main value of the weapon is that it makes short work of spewers and it absolutely bullies Brood commanders. Plus, if you spam fire it into bug breaches you can light the bugs up. I can't see it being good against the bots, but it's amazing on the bug front. Either that or I'm just a god ( spoiler alert, it's probably not that).
Very interested your take on bug 9s with it. There’s just too many Hunters. I’m a recent Eruptor/Stalwart user on bug 9s and I feel like that handles a wide variety of bugs for me.
@@kevvvbot I have run into breeches and patrols that were solely comprised of hunters. I've had 30-40 hunters on my screen at once if that's any indication. I run the trench paramedic armor so, if things get overwhelming, I can actually just dive on the ground and spam stims every 4 seconds until the hunters are clear.
@@connman8d617 ah nice, thats a good play
And then Arrowhead decided to nerf the whole game itself
Edit: We won, the game lives
And some people can't take a joke, go figure
Stfu keep that out of here
*sony
Sony... Not Arrowhead... This was forced on them and the players by Sony!
The worst Major Order we ever got... "Make a PSN account or be branded a traitor..."
Haaaaaaaa! WAIT
Its not they, its alexus. the lead balance dev
That guy sucks, i hope he gets fired
Sad to see you don't realize how good the Punisher Plasma is for bots.
I see you only fight Terminids.
ragin reaper usually right about everything - stylosa should be watchin you for tips bro lol
In my game today the Eruptor no longer closed bug holes, making it a worse option than the Punisher Plasma for me
It still worked for me. Could it have been lag? I know the servers were acting weird yesterday.
Nah, still closes holes.
wtf is AH doing...