Hey Everyone! I wanted to try something a little different with what we do here on the channel which are build loadouts. As a reminder, this is by no means the only 4 playstyles and there are an infinite amount. The beauty of this game is we get to play the way we want. So be sure to let us know how you like to play! An great example, I've received since releasing this was a support style that runs more sentries! I enjoy engaging with this community, as always thanks for checking out the video!
Automaton diver here. My one and only stratagem loadout for the bots are: Eagle Airstrike, for the fabricators, 380mm Barrage, for the Detector Towers, Command Bunkers, Heavy Bot Outposts, Recoilless Rifle, for anti tank and tower purposes, and lastly, Autocannon Sentry, for backup and lure fire. I run this with Scout Light Armor, Eruptor (to deal with Fab Vents or Broadcast tower if you have the angle), Senator or Vindicator for CQC, and stun grenade. I call this the Demolisher, for dealing with objectives. You go alone and stealth, airstrikes on outposts, then get out of the area for another objective.
Hey, fellow automaton divers here. What tips do you have for the 380mm barrage? I personally find the orbital laser to be a bit more reliable in clearing heavy outposts if you throw it correctly. Would love to learn more.
@@hisyamsulaiman5522 my main concern for the Orbital Laser is the limit. But it does clear up enemies pretty nicely. The Barrage however, only takes 2 direct hits to a Factory Strider, while the Laser takes a long while to melt through. The 380mm has a 40m blast radius so try to not get to near it. You can use the 120mm but it has lower damage than the 320mm and only has 30m blast radius.
@@hisyamsulaiman5522put it right in the center of outposts and use it to soften up based before you go in. It is also really good if there is a massive bot drop. Running away from the flare and dropping a 380 can soften up the horde pretty well
Creek vet here and if you want the best route for completion on bots, do stealth, just because they look at you, doesn’t mean you are done, run away where bot drops are being called, bring anti mat rifle any grenade, and bring stuff like the electric orbital strike, also you can find a few videos such as Reginald and his advanced guide or a vids like “pushing the stealth mechanics of helldivers to it’s limits” that really made me a better player. Spill oil helldivers
@@lyonidus3073 You must be new to fps (first person shooters). Well, to answer your question, ADS means to ‘aim down sight’ by looking through the sight or scope attached to your weapon.
I'm a Jack of All Trades player but I do have a penchant for Anti-Tank but the only unusual loadout I will frequently run is, on bugs, if my team has plenty of AT, I like to run the MG-43, the Guard Dog (the bullet one), 500kg and Auto-Cannon Sentry, I think it's MUCH better horde clear than the flamer. 500 because I hate Titian kitin', but I'll hold onto them unless my AT teammates are indisposed. The Autocannon sentry is for when we start to buckle or a big horde, just throw it somewhere up and out the way and it'll happily chew through the 6 chargers chasing my AT teammates about. Edit: Doesn't work if you have an ahole who runs off alone and calls in the supply drop just for himself, you need that 1 supply brick but it will generally see you to the next supply drop since it gives you 2 boxes of MG ammo (300 bullets) and refills all mags of the guard dog.
If you really wanna be a “jack of all trades” use the autocannon, bring along the 500kg for bugs and you’re good against literally everything. The only real downside is it very much scales with player skill but that’s also the best thing about it. You don’t have to worry about AH nerfing it because the average player sucks with it and doesn’t use it, or they simply rely too much on shield/rovers and by their data and terrible balance team it’s not “popular” enough to nerf. Edit: all that is assuming you only play diff9, the rifle guard dog in your build makes me think you don’t. Which is fine, if nothing else I suggest at least giving the autocannon a try.
@@ozylocz4078 Jack of all Trades as in I can and will fill any role. I like specialised builds in team games. I've used the Autocannon extensivaly and I much prefer the MG-43 + Guard Dog vs Bugs by a LARGE margin. Autocannon is godly vs Bots because of the prevalence of Devistators and all the heavier enemies have medium weakspots. I find it funny it's considered a skill weapon it's no more difficult to use than anything else. I play mostly 8s becase I play with a friend who isn't as "aware" as me but if I play alone I'll do 9s, there really isn't much between them.
@@sirgaz8699 “personal preference” seems to have a HUGE influence on your build, I don’t mean anything necessarily negative by that but the regular guard dog is absolutely terrible in comparison to the rover if you must use a guard backpack. I genuinely believe that when weighing all your options the guard dog is the worst stratagem in the game. There’s not even a niche situation where it’s better than ANYTHING else. I’d also prefer more anti tank in that build given the fact that the only things that really matter vs bugs is how fast you can deal with chargers/titans. I also said it SCALES with player skill very well, which it very much does. There’s hardly any skill to using things like the arc thrower, quasar and plenty of other weapons. The autocannon rewards your good positioning and aim, it punishes you for not counting your shots. You can also two shot chargers and hulks, but it’s very easy to miss so it incentivizes good aim. You must have not used it much if you can’t see this, I’d suggest getting some more practice with it.
@@ozylocz4078 The last patch nerfed the rovers damage 30% and buffed the guard dog 30%, the guard dog can glance at a pack of hunters and evaporate them in a few seconds. The limited ammo is only a problem if you're not getting a supply bricks which you want for the MG-43 anyway, they both run out at the same time. Yes, I have played with the Auto-cannon extensively, I know it 2 shots Hulks and Chargers (though I rarely use it against bugs) and do it frequently, I know positioning plays a key, I'm good at it and my aim is good. I also preferred my suggestion with "if my team has plenty of AT, I like to run the MG-43," we don't need more anti heavy, we need anti-horde and the MG is better than the flamer, it's a team loadout. On the flip side have you touched the MG since level 3?
Level 64 Automaton diver here. I prefer fighting bots but they are very different to handle than the bugs. My current stratagem loadout is: Ballistic shield, Sniper Rifle, Eagle 500 kg bomb, and EMS mortar sentry. For my starting gear, I'm rocking the Pummeler, Senator, Stun grenades, and a Democracy Protects armor set. I used to be all about the energy shield but the ballistic has grown on me. It really shines when you can hold it up and stare down bots. The shield will protect you against most small laser fire, from troopers to Heavy Devastators. (note, it will protect but ragdoll you with rockets does not block melee attacked) With the ballistic shield, you can wield a one-handed weapon, hence the Senator for picking off troopers and getting important headshots on devastators. Pummeler is a new favorite for this loadout as it stun locks enemies which gives you breathing room when berserkers are charging you or devastators won't let up their attacks. Sniper Rifle I love for taking out heavy units from way too far away. You can snipe the eye of a Hulk for a 2 shot kill. Devastators can be knocked around with it if you can't land their headshot. Hitting tanks and turrets on their heat sinks from so far away they don't even engage is great, though they take more than one magazine. It can down gunships if you hit the same engine, though bullet travel needs to be considered. A neat synergy with the ballistic shield, is that while you have a two handed weapon you, the shield is on your back but still protects from shots. Great for when retreating from enemies. Stun grenade is another must as it again allows for some breathing room when you're getting swarmed by little units or bigger ones. It'll stun a hulk and give you an moment to line up those eye shots with your sniper rifle. It does not affect tanks and it does mean you can't blow up frabricators. Your sniper rifle can open up shipping crates though. EMS sentry I usually bring on any type of mission because it can lean much needed support against swarms of any kind (bug or bot). You don't realize how much grief it can save you until you realize a whole patrol has been stun locked since they got dropped off. The sentry has a range of 125 m and since it fires straight up, can be positioned safely behind cover or in craters/pits. It also doesn't harm your fellow helldivers, who will be slowed (in contrast, enemies are totally stunned) and not damaged. It's also great for throwing in the opposite direction you're running as it will draw enemies to it while you run elsewhere. It can also alert you to enemies creeping up on you, but it will also pick fights with anything in the 125 m range. Eagle 500 kg bomb is just plain useful in most any situation, as the video mentions. It's great when you can get two runs with the ship upgrade. Useful for anything big and heavy you need to take out. You can also always swap this out for your orbital/eagle/barrage of choice depending on mission. Oh, and Democracy Protects as an armor perk is my favorite because with that 50% chance of surviving lethal damage, you can get a second chance at life (to stim yourself) from most any wildly damaging attack up to and including setting off a hellbomb in your own face. (though don't bank on it, it's still only a 50/50 chance) This loadout allows me to support my team, handle patrols, go after objectives, and delete heavy units on my own. It works best with a team that has different loadouts that cover other areas (such as crowd control or anti-air ship stuff). I also have used it solo to success, though that's more cause my connection sucks than choice.
TL;DR My Automaton loadout is: Ballistic shield, Sniper Rifle, Eagle 500 kg bomb, EMS mortar sentry, Pummeler, Senator, Stun grenades, and a Democracy Protects armor. I can hold off devastators and delete hulks with this loadout while running around to get the super samples cause I am a sample hound!
Having a specialized team drasticly improved helldives from personal experience. When I actually manage to get my elite guild to make a specialized load out for a mission we have minimal deaths and extreme efficiency not to mention fun. When everyone just does whatever willingly we end up scattered and unprepared either for gunships or at ats or tanks or hulks or devastators etc. if ur specialty is small mobs in big groups then it helps to have a heavy specialist with eats and spears and orbital rails and 110mm etc
Should prolly mention we look at bugs like silly target practice even though we only do lvl 9 difficulty. We mainly dk bots when we want serious challenge
That's fair, I am giga garbage at Bots. It's 100% skill issue, but when I play with friends we naturally select certain loadouts to breeze through! But not 100% necessary. That's for commenting!
I was garbage at bots when I first made the switch for quite a while prolly took a good half a month or so before I finally figured it out and got used to it. It requires complete rewiring of how you play basicly changing the mind set from horde shooter to tactical gameplay. Stealth isn't required but it definitely helps. These days we rarely stealth. If we do it is aggressive stealth. We don't often avoid much we just ambush and take out whatever is ahead of us with tactical combined strikes before they can call in reinforcments. That don't mean we don't get stubbornly stuck in continuously hopeless battles where there is more.and more enemies then we can kill from time to time lol
@@FrostyHots A cheat skill for dealing with bots is learning to use the shield generator emplacement and the HMG emplacement. Drop the HMG first then the bubble. Nothing can touch you in the bubble while you can shred everything with the HMG emplacement. Watching Devastators chicken walkers fall to pieces is so satisfying. Even Hulks can get their eyes shot out. Factory Strider? You can remove the chin guns and do damage to the face. You're impervious to all damage for 30sec while the shield bubble is up, then clear out. Even the big gun on top of the Strider can't pierce it. Gunships? No problem. And you can drop it every 3min. while the Shield Generator is every 70 seconds (63sec with mods). Two people with the Shield Generator can have it up almost indefinitely.
I honestly dont mind this. If team okay with it why not. This allows team to gain more samples in quicker time while at same time lesser chance to lose all sample. I would gladly lay my life down and fail to extract for you if that means getting more samples to upgrade my ship.
@@Doom-vz9mmthat’s great of you to ask the leader! Communication is key. Something that often happens is when team is split in two or there’s a lone wolf, is when someone dies they get reinforced by a player that has wondered off. Most annoying thing ever! Now I’m completely on the opposite side of the map without my weapons and samples. And this happens when the lone wolf hasnt even suggested going solo. Really I just kick those players from my team because they mess everything up and won’t listen to the game chat… So again, communication is key and it’s great that you think about the team rather than yourself!!
@@GamingPIPI I always ask bc I dont need a kick I usually just do it to help with samples and usually dont stray to far from the objectives just incase of a teammate dying
Automaton diver here: my build is usually a Vanguard, I like to play offensively and take out enemy settlements as soon as possible, which means many eagles and orbital lasers. I take a lot of inspiration from the WW1 German Sturmtruppen. Either that, or Lone Survivor. In some cases, I do both, meaning I'll assault the base on my own
I lean more towards jack-of-all trades. Blitzer and Eagle Napalm to CC; Quasar, Thermite Grenades, and Orbital Rail for heavies; Grenade Pistol for holes; and 500kg for a little bit of everything. Due to running arc weapons for so long, I've developed a shoot and scoot playstyle where I'm always kiting to keep corpses and debris from eating my shots. It always felt awkward to for me to use the EAT like this as I kept losing where I called it down, and the reloading of the Recoilless Rifle kept getting me killed. Drop napalm, clear extras with Blitzers, and deal with heavies when there's no swarm to slow me down. Honestly, with the Blitzer + napalm combo, I can deal with everything except chargers and titans. Though hive guards give me some trouble, I can usually keep even a group of 6 or so of them stun locked and either deal with them using heavy killing equipment, or just blitzing them until the heat death of the universe.
My favorite loadout rn is: Bugs: orbital Gas, 500KGs, flame thrower and energy shield. Run stuns grenade pistol, and breaker incendiary Bots: orbital precision strike, 500KGs, energy shield and rail gun. Then I run grenade pistol, stuns or impacts depending on the mission, and Jar5. If the planet has gunships I’ll swap the rail for the quasar. Super fun loadouts. Orbital precision is one of my favorites. Nothing flashy but crazy one shot potential and you get it super quick when you have your orbital ship bay maxed out.
Interesting video and i can recognize myself in several of these archetypes. I can change depending of the mood but usually against bugs, i'm a boss killer with Recoilless Rifle. I really like the RR, and the trick to shorten the reload time make it feel so much better to use (switch weapon when the shell icon is full to cancel the animation. The reload is still completed). Since you asked loadouts against Automatons, i've named my go-to loadout "Demolisher" mainly focused on destroying enemy bases and defenses. It is teamplay oriented, but you are performing best when you wander around your team, letting them take the aggro while you are taking down factories, cannon turrets and various highly dangerous targets to ease their struggles. My main stratagem is the Spear, as well as Eagle Airstrike, Orbital Railcannon Strike and Orbital Laser (i keep it for big bases, but i usually drop this one if i have the -1 stratagem modifier). The Spear is really good against bots since there is so many eligible targets for its lock-on system. You can destroy factories from a safe distance and it can sometime destroy adjacent structures as Jammer or Detection Towers without having to go inside. The Spear has its flaws (the finicky lock-on system as well as being really ammo hungry), so the other stratagems are here to help with the task. Eagle Airstrike can take down multiple factories (if close enough), cannon turrets, as well as already weakened Striders if you can land most of the shells on them. And the Orbital Laser can lay waste the biggest bases (almost) by itself. This loadout can also deal with high priority targets as Hulks (one or two hits with the Spear if it's in the eye or the back, or simply with the ORS) as well as Striders pretty easily (the Spear can destroy the top turret and your long range primary can deal with the gatlings, making it harmless). The Spear can lock on Aerial Gunships, but it's not worth it to waste ammo when they are so many. Same thing with your primary: you can take down one or two that annoys you if you have medium armor penetration, but the best course of action is to let your teammates take the aggro while you are rushing toward the factory to call the hellbomb (since you already are satelliting around the group). Primary/Secondary/Grenade are flexible, so anything able to support the team from mid/long range is good for dealing with hordes of regular enemies (for example Eruptor, Dominator or Scorcher, with Redeemer and Stun grenades). And for armor, i really like the Servo-Assisted ones since it help to launch your stratagems directly in the enemy bases (throwing while diving increase the range even further!). Alternatively, the Scout passive is very good if you like going solo or if you want to avoid patrols.
Thank you for breaking down your loadout especially the Automaton section. I'm wanting to learn new ways and loadout stratagies. I never would've guessed the versatility that the Spear can offer. I hope they fix the finnicky lock on system because the potential it offers. However, this is was very informative. Thank you for the comment!
Lvl 100 here. I can share a few of the builds I have used. I must put a warning on them though as I do not tend to play meta builds and they may feel weak or bizarre to people who don't know what they are doing. I have a recon support sniper for those who want to stay far from the fighting but still want some action. For gear you want Diligence CS, any scout armor, grenade pistol and smoke grenades. Stratagems are orbital smoke, eagle 110 rocket pods, jump pack and AMR. The goal is to support your team with stealth and high mobility ambush and sniper attacks while suppressing foes with smoke to pull allies out of harm. Also watch your radar like a hawk because the faster you can react to a problem the easier its going to be to deal with. Smokes effects are easier to see on the bots than on bugs so if smoke feels weak you can swap it out for ems and stun grenades. I also have an engineer build I did against the bugs that I can share. gear is Plasma punisher, grenade pistol, stun grenades, and any armor with extra grenades. Stratagems are Eagle air strike, guard dog, mg sentry and auto cannon sentry. This one is a weird one, but it works so long as your sentry placement is on point. Works great on teams that like to stick together. The build relies on the two turrets to do the heavy lifting and your job is to support the turrets and team mates with stuns and staggers. Im sure im gonna get a lot of eye rolling because of the lack of meta options, but I have stress tested these for weeks on high end 7+ missions. they do work.
I tend to play Jack but with support/survival in mind. Depending on what I feel like, Jet/supply/watchdog/shield, and three offensives or 2 with 1 support weapon. Then I'll pair up and support whoever I'm with. If it gets too hot, split and regroup to stay alive and keep samples.
Skirmisher build. 500kg, eagle air strike, emancipator, shield generator pack or spear. Breaker Incendiary for bugs, purifier for bots, grenade pistol, and stun grenades. Trailblazer armor. The build relies on early detection and high mobility to skirt the edges of combat and establish crossfire and quickly clearing targets and disengaging. Drop the emancipator when needing to hold an objective or provide a burst of heavy firepower for pushing hard targets. Bring the shield if you will need to branch off to solo scout or clear objectives so you can keep moving under fire and disengage more reliably or if you know you will need to tank a lot of fire in the emancipator. Bring the spear if you'll be more on the edge of combat to provide more pinpoint fire support or need to take out more objectives without getting bogged down on approach. Works well in any mission type where hit and run is viable and the map isn't disabled. Will struggle on defense and losing the map means you'll get flanked a lot while circling engagements. Have fun!
I play a "buddy cop" playstyle. I usually follow the objective hunting diver or more aggressive player and cover their back. Plasma punisher and stun grenades to give them more time. Grenade pistol to close holes and doors. Ems mortar, orbital laser, rail cannon for big stuff. Secondary is usually auto cannon or eat. I try to keep space between baddies and my team, slow things down, and prevent overwhelm. For bugs I run similar but usually the incendiary breaker instead of the plasma punisher. I guess it is a type of control build for the most part.
Same! I always watch everyone’s backs and do mission in between when im not too busy protecting myself and others. And this playstyle is a nightmare when you’re in a team that does zero teamwork 😂. I’m always the host for that reason and let them know to either work as a team or get kicked. Because usually they just become a liability and exhaust all the reinforcement budget… I hate it when people refuse to work as a team. I think everyone should watch each other’s back, always. And maybe if you are good enough one person can become lone wolf tops!! That is most efficient.
Orbital rail canon. Well placed 500kg eagles, grenade launcher, supply pack , pummeler, secondary grenade launcher, impact grenades . Light gunner armor. The amount of grenades act as a hand held eagle airstrike. The pummeler always stuns stalkers and chargers (back side shots until they burst.)
Blizter, grenade pistol, impact nades, rover, EAT, 500kg and rail strike. Can deal with anything solo or in a group. Only main issue is directly targeting shriekers but if you learn to dodge them the rover will eventually kill them.
I play a crowd control style. I go Breaker incendiary Machine gun (I know not meta) Orbital gas strike 500KG Jet pack Stun grenades Grenade pistol for bug holes
I was actually shocked to see it happened. I somehow clumped 3 of them and it was a 1 in a million chance I bet since I know how inconsistent the 500 kg can be. But I can attest, it is possible.
I run quite a few 2. My fav hybrid / assault loudout is: stalwart, eagle cluster bomb, precision strike, 500kg. for my croud control i usually use: airburst rocket launcher, and some more stuff for the rest of the team such as 500kg, precision strike, shield generator backpack, or tesla tower. for support i tend to run: anti material rifle (for all guard,elite warrior,artilery bugs), jump pack and eagle strafing run + whatever the team seems to need. and for lone survivor, more often then not i run for autocannon :D Mainly automaton diver but if i head to deal with terminids i usually don't use (above) "hybrid" build.
My usual bot Strategem loadout tends to be 500kg, orbital rail, shield bag, and EAT. My usual bug loadout tends to be 500kg, orbital rail, jetpack, and flamethrower. And I’m sure I’ll find one for those evil squids too.
Bot hunter here and a range player. AMR - my go to weapon for distance kills EMP mortar & autocannon sentry - to guard me and in case any get close Orbital railgun - hulk and tanks Concussive SMG & stun grenade - stagger enemies for air strike
Automation diver my go to loadout is: Auto cannon Eagle airstrike Orbital laser And depending on what my teammates have either the rail cannon or explosive mortar. I take the rail cannon if my teammates are using more crowd control, the mortar if they are more boss killers. With this loadout the auto cannon is your true primary as it allows you to deal with anything the bots can throw at you. The eagle airstrike to deal with groups and fabricators that you can’t get a good angle on. The orbital laser serves as an “oh shit” button for when you are being swarmed. Then depending on teammates the rail cannon will allow you to immediately remove a boss (except for the factory strider) . The mortars as a long term fuck anything in this general area stratagem. A few other notes, the auto cannon is valuable less cause of its damage and more so its ability to stun most bots allowing you to stun lock devastators and striders until dead. For tanks and turrets you have to get a good angle on them otherwise use airstrikes, rail cannon, mortar ( if set up already). You can kill hulks if you go for the eyes but I find that it is better to either go for the legs or arms of a hulk and set up a teammate for success or allow you to just ignore it. For factory striders shoot and destroy the mini-gun turrets and you just made it easier to handle. when using the mortars always keep in mind where you are in relation to the enemy, if they are getting close to you and your mortar is set up, you should just run away. Also try and place your mortar somewhere that has cover it’ll keep it up for longer. In terms of guns go for whatever you want the auto-cannon is your real primary, I tend to use the Diligence + grenade pistol + impact grenades. The grenade pistol and impacts will give you more weapons which can harm devastators quickly and easily.
I need to be better when killing the Hulks and Factory Striders. The eye was a pit of a skill issue for me, so I went for the legs. But that also can take some time to disable them. How many shots do you reckon with the AC on the Factory Strider's turret to knock it out?
I tend to dive bots, but my playstyle works just as good against bigs too. I usually tend to specialise in heavy building/AT/AA with the spear, while also playing support with the purifier for long range stun and AOE damage. Other than that, its usually just the orbital railcannon, 500kg/OPS and either the rocket/gatling sentry/HMG emplacement
My loadout (for bugs) is probably a mix of hybrid and lone survivor. I go after main/side objectives alone while my team focuses on other main/side/nest objectives. I do not touch bug nests unless it’s really convenient. I use AMR (yes it’s great for bugs), jump pack, punisher shotgun (mostly), verdict, 500kg, EAT, impact incendiary, and light stim armor. Probably the best survivability build and I can go most games dying either once or none. Most of the 1 times I die are from teamkill damage when we meet for extract.
AMR is fantastic and really satisfying. Also, the Verdict is growing on me because it packs quite a punch. Even though it's only 10 rounds, shieet you just lop Terminids heads off lol.
My personal favourite loadout for bugs rn is the 500kg bomb, orbital gas strike, recoilles rifle and a turret it most often being either an autocannon turret or a gatling turret with the promary being breaker incendiary, granade launcher pistol for secondary and impact for granades (although I'll probably take impact incendiary when I unlock it). This build is more of a jack of all trades with the power to kill chargers and bile titans through 500kg bombs, autocannon sentry or recoilles's shots while also being able to deal with bug breaches through gas strike, fire from breaker incendiary and the turret. Also the reason why I tak gas strike over napalm strike is because having 2 eagles equipped at once becomes really annoying with mamaging the cooldowns on both and a second reason why I take gas strike is because of it's short cooldwon. With napalm airstrike I tend to have moments where I would love to use it but I can't cuz I used the the last one recently and have to wait for cooldown, where for gas strike the cooldown is small enough where I never found myself in thet situations yet
I tend to focus on heavies and medium armored enemies that could cause trouble for my allies, and have a primary to keep the mobs off me. I always run the hybrid medium-heavy armorset with the fortified passive, impact grenades for quick bursts of damage, and the senator since it can deal damage to nearly anything I shoot at. For bots, I tend to run a shield and SMG combo, allowing me to tank incoming fire without instantly dying; the AMR or the EAT to deal with medium and heavy armored targets; the cluster bomb since it excells at dealing with crowds of light to medium armored enemies; and the 500 kg, to deal with buildings, tanks, and factory striders. For bugs, I tend to stick with the incendiary shotgun, since I can deal with the crowds easily with one to two shots, but still have enough immediate damage to take out heavier targets (plus being able to damage anything I can hit); the AMR and EAT, for the same reasons as above; the cluster strike, 500 kg, or the railcannon, depending on if bile titans are likely to appear; and either the supply pack or jetpack, depending on if I think I'll be able to get up to any shenanigans with climbing to places I shouldn't be and raining down fire with my AMR.
Automaton Front helldiver here, I find the hit and run playstyle to be the best for me wherein I have a jump pack eagle airstrike and either a quasar or a sniper with the last slot being flexible, stealth close to the objective then Hit fast and Hit hard Then run even faster
Botdiver. Also an objective diver. 500kg, 380 for large area and detector. Depending on the team. Pummeler/riotshield/quasar Scorcher/jetpack/amr Always bring a grenade pistol for fabricators
My go to for bugs on t8-9 is jar 5, gp, and incendiary impact. Then i go heavy focused eat AND quasar laser rover to help keep chaff off me while i clear heavies and napalm/500 kg depending on how my team is kitted for aoe or heavy clear. Bots i usually run jar 5/ scorcher, gp, emp grenade. Then Standard airstrike, 380 barrage, shield backpack then either, railgun/quasar/amr depending on team, sometimes I'll swap shield for AC and AC sentry
Funny enough your boss killer loadout is the exact same as my main terminid load out down to the sidearm and the grenade. I can say it works exceptionally well against all types of elite bugs but the only downside is that it struggles to deal with hordes.
My hybrid boss killer stratagem loadout for Terminids is: - Orbital Railcannon - Recoiless Rifle (Launcher & Backpack) - Eagle Airstrike (interchangeable with 500kg) - Autocannon Sentry (interchangeable with Gatling Sentry if you need more crowd control) Weapon loadout: - ARC-12 Blitzer (infinite ammo electric shotgun which ignores shields and med-armor) - P-4 Senator Revolver (Med-armor penetration + Rounds Reload) - G-16 Impact Grenades (Interchangeable with G-23 Stun Grenade if having hard time lining up headshots with Recoiless Rifle on Chargers).
My current favourite loadout for the bugs has got to be: Stalwart, supply pack, airstrike and 500kg. Pretty generic loadout but i often end up with most kills at the end of the round. If youve killed all the nearby chaff enemies the stalwart is really good at pulling aggro from titans, then you can destroy the bile sack, drop the 500 close to you and force the titan into an attack. Also having the stalwart on full RPM allows you to destroy charger leg armour from behind ( i think its a glitch). Shooting behind the legs seems to just strip the legs from the armour even tho visually its still intact. Running those stratagems with a Democracy Protects medium or Fortified heavy armour allows you to be closer to the 500 when it drops if you need. Combined with usually incend breaker, Grenade pistol and flashbangs allows chaff freeze and destruction
"Also having the stalwart on full RPM allows you to destroy charger leg armour from behind ( i think its a glitch). Shooting behind the legs seems to just strip the legs from the armour even tho visually its still intact." Excuse ME!?! I must try this....
I lone wolf most of the time. I handle the opposite side of the map from the team to speed things along and I’m confident in myself so I run the legionnaire armor for the extra speed and stamina and throw distance. Can throw stratagems outside of agro range. The punisher for the single shell reload and stagger. Grenade pistol, incendiary grenade. EATs and quasar so I have a big boom on hand and can call in for bile titans. 2 quasar shots and both rockets in 15 seconds is usually enough to drop one. Also can utilize the drop itself to take out bug holes and chargers if you can get it to stick. Eagle clusters because you get so many of them. And the laser guard dog to handle the small targets. The only thing that this build struggles with is the green bile spewers but I guess you can take the dominator to help that but the reload time is a problem for me.
My hybrid bug loadout: IC Breaker, Redeemer, IC Grenade, Grenade launcher, Ammo Backpack, EAT, Auto Cannon Sentry or Airstrike / Orbital of choice. Perfect for kill hordes and Spewers with the Grenade launcher (extra Ammo needed) and and the IC Breaker + IC Grenade. For the Titans and Chargers i go with the EAT when needed. Last Strategem is a nice to have extra.
I love the dominator, killed a couple dozen stalkers completely keeping them at bay solo while the team rushed shriekers at start and got loadouts called in, they just kept coming
I play strictly random and I've found a hybrid play style to work best for me. Against bugs I often take the jar-5 for the medium armor then the stalwart and supply pack for all the little guys then usually orbital rail cannon and eagle airstrike
Ah yes, I like that build. I enjoy using the Stalwart as my primary for Chaff. Then whip out the Jar-5 for medium + for quick kills, so it's like a "secondary" weapon.
I tend to go for a more lone playstyle and drop with light/med armor with +2 granades Incendiary/Plasma shotgun, Granade Pistol, Stun Granade 500kg; OStriker/ECluster; Flamethrower; Shield Gen/Jumpack. Ive used the Rover a lot, but I tend to move frequently and it caused me a ton of damage to the point I literally dropped it mid breach, I lose DPS but gain sanity without it
Great video. My build you can say is hybrids. Armour med: engineering skill Breaker Grenade pistol Thermite Grenade Thats my main for both bots and bugs. My stratagems setup for bots or bugs are similar but different. Bots: Heavy Machine Gun(480 speed) or machine gun (base speed) Supply backpack O.Rail cannon strike O. Laser (or eagle airstrike depending on missions) Bugs: Stalwart ( 700 or top speed depending on engagement) Supply backpack O. Rail cannon Eagle air strike People sleep on thermite Grenades. I be using it to take down chargers, those giant tanks bots drop, cannon towers and helps with hulks. This saves up my stratagems like my eagles and lasers for when its needed to support my allies who all have same things. The supply backpack keeps you fully ammo and gives you basicly a crap tons of Grenades and witg gear setup you aim better and got my thermites you can throw. Heavy machine eats devastators like paper just tap to shoot. This build is enjoyable becauae no matter what i face i should be able to take it down. UPDATE: So I had this itch. I always enjoy heavy armour. I was told was bad and still try this on bugs long ago as and hated it BUT I thought like night before this update why not try vs bots.(tested on level 7 suicide so keep that in mind) I didn't have heavy with engineering skill so couldn't test but I did have heavy with med skill. After like maybe 6 hours of running around in heavy with med skill i have to say it was fun. My build only suffered from less then 2 Grenades but I felt so unkillable at times. Hulks were a bit easier because I can run up and as soon as I feel fire I stim and this to heavy more then enough time then with the med skill on I switch to thermite Grenades and throw 3 or 4 to face or leg. Then I run and maybe stir again. When I turn around flame hulk is on ground burning. The heavy with mrd skill allow me to be extra aggressive on hulks and I just abuse my Supply backpack for more Stimson and Grenades. I did switch out H.machine gun for machine gun since I don't have engineering skill to help with accuracy but if you are just accurate then you just fine.
Thank you and also thanks for sharing your loadout/ breakdown. I've tried utilizing the thermite grenades and struggled using them. I love the concept of them though.
@@FrostyHots i am never perfect with my throws either. I did start abusing my backpack. I sometimes say f it and throw all 6 grenades at hulk and chargers anywhere then they just die. Then I use my backpack and get more. Messy yes, got job done yep lol. Its seems throwing 6 all over body or same spot works.
@@wargandi7659 I guess that makes sense right? Look at your bug loadout, you need something quick and refundable (like EAT/Quasar) or in this case the Thermite grenades. That's creative right there. Thanks again for sharing!
I play mostly bots I use heavy armour eruptor for striders behemoths and to knock out fabricators from a long range stalwart for clean up and energy Shiel backpack. I use eagle airstrike and orbital laser. I tend to run off knocking out bases by myself working in a circular motion around the map collecting everything on the way while my team focuses on the objectives
Bugs: one shot rockets, guard dog rover, 500kg, orbital rail canon, blitzer, grenade pistol and impact fire grenade Bots: eagle air strike, balistic shield, railgun, orbital rail canon, pumeler, grenade pistol and impact grenade
Botslayer here: My loadout is Scorcher/countersniper primary Grenade pistol secondary Stun nade Strategems are: Spear Autocannon sentry Eagle airstrike/500 Rail cannon strike This build aims to support a more long range building based destruction while also flexing as someone who takes out key target enemies as swiftly as possible. Helps as a quick play loadout if you're looking to make sure you all complete the mission and fix whatever mess your Randoms have started
@FrostyHots the lock on is based on your visual picture of the thing you're trying to shoot, make sure you can see the bottom of what you're trying to target and also thin things can block you like fences. However because the spears targeting is so precise, it means you can get away with as little as a thin sliver of the top and bottom of a fabricator in order to target the object and fire. Also the triangle that appears is like a game of hot and cold, the closer it gets to locking on, the closer you are to the right spot for targeting the building. Also height is your friend, it kinda tricks the system into thinking you can see the top and bottom. Last thing I'll say, moving targets are obviously harder so bring stuns!
Lvl 101 here, i been where you were on loadouts. I have played with cannon sentries or dual mortar and i have found out the basiscs still better Have an eagle airstrike, orbital strike, an auto cannon and a wide area cleaner (usually i do 380) On the last one is best used to throw it on the middle of a 5 or 10 hole nest or the the edge of an objective /exfil
With bugs I'm typically running HMG and act as support by taking out larger boys like the Hive Guard or Brood Commanders. Pummeler to control Hunters and Stalkers. Cluster Bomb for some crowd control or 110s for Bile Titans. Rail cannon also for chargers and BTs though I try to prioritize BTs with it if I have 110s. Supply Backpack to deal with the abysmal ammo count of the HMG but the way I use it I don't necessarily need the backpack so sometimes I'll just run 110s and Cluster. Grenade Pistol for bug holes and either impact incendiary or stuns. If I'm feeling spicy I'll replace the HMG with the Flamethrower. Bots it's typically an autocannon, Railcannon or laser orbital, cluster, stuns, airburst orbital and the Pummeler still. Sometimes, rarely, I'll run Scorcher and EATs instead of the autocannon.
My bug loadout (outside of the 15 min missions) is incendiary breaker, grenade pistol, incendiary pistol, flamethrower, junp pack, tesla tower (for breaches and clearing nests before closing holes) and autocannon sentry (for bile titans or if there's too many chargers to confortably roast)
Do you find this more effective versus using the resupply cycle time? I spam the hell out of my flamethrower and typically am able to cycle out the resupply. Do you go lone survivor mode with your flamethrower? Let me know your thoughts!
have you thought of trying out this loadout? the BIG BOOM: Stratagems: - 380mm barrage - walking barrage - 120mm barrage - 500kg bomb weapons: -Eruptor -senator -impact grenade playstyle: Drop all stratagems in a nest/outposts and enjoy the boom, or just use them one at a time to space out the stratagems
Atomaton diver here, m6 go-to load out is autocannon for pretty much everything, even fabricators with practice. Airstrike, for croud control and quick base destruction. Precision orbital, typically tanks and hulks but croud control in a pinch. I find it better to use it over rail cannon due to the short cool down and it having a blast radius. And finally 120mm for heavy bases and secondary objectives. 120mm for 4-6, I'll swap for 280mm for 7-9. Weapons are sycle for quick horde removal and CQC, vindicator for oh shit moments, and impacts because impacts. Sorry for the rant.
No need to be sorry! I enjoy reading these as much as others do. It gives us a better understanding of how people play/approach the game. Thank you for your comment!
I'm the supportive fire, auto Cannon, auto cannon turret, Gatling turret, final can be machine gun turret, deployment shield, missile turret or any minefield. My focus is to take out fabricators/bug holes before engagement and put down powerful turrets to deal with infantry or heavy units. Anything to help my teams engagement easier.
Generally, when it comes to higher difficulty (8 or 9) you’re better off running a generalist build that can quickly finish objectives due to the sheer low reinforcement timer. Although, it might just be me cause I mainly play with randoms.
My Independence build better from bots bots is: Medic armor (for survivability and still be maneuverable) Sickle, senetor and impacts. Quasar/ railgun, jump pack/shield pack eagle airstrike and 500kg
I like using the new SMG with the Grenade pistol, and stun grenades My stratagems: Ammo Pack with LMG, Anti-Sniper, Auto Canon sentry, Rocket Sentry, EMS Mortars, Reg. Mortars, HMG emplacements, Orbital Rail Cannon, Eagle 110 Airstrike, Eagle Airstrike, Orbital Airburst strike And I use light armor with the grenades passive, specially the one from the Demolition warbond I guess I’m a support player covering all roll’s depending on what my team mates have on stratagems but also as a minor backup when downed or needed I always go with the Ammo pack with LMG and Auto cannon sentry and my last stratagem to be either of the others in the list above. But it changes depending if my team needs more crowd support or Heavy hitting stuff, but it also depends on the mission for me I choose light armor too with the grenades passive because I find it easier for me to survive with more stamina and using stun grenades help a ton and more of it will benefit me, and for lethal explosives for Fabricators and bug holes I got the grenade pistol. The new SMG also helps me a ton because of its very low recoil along side it’s concussion rounds for medium armored enemies I like to be well rounded for every scenario which is why my play style is very Jack of all trades and master of none, and it also helps by using more precise stratagems for myself to kill my team mates LESS so we can finish the mission with a full 100%
Thank you for your break down of your build. I wouldn't have considered a playstyle like this especially when utilizing the Pummeler. I need to run the light armor variant more because in my guys, I can hear my character breathing extra hard in that medium armor LOL
Here is a lofoud i can absolutely recommend for everyone: Napalm Toxic Gas Quasar Cannon Resupply Pack Primary: Incendiary Breaker Secondary: Grenade Pistol Grenade: Stun Grenade Jack of all Trades, master of none. Quasar to deal with Chargers and Bile Titans. Just spam the Breaker into bug breaches and small patrols and you will consistently get killstreaks of 40+. It made me enjoy the game again
On bot I either run: pummler, grenade pistol, stun grenade/ ballistic shield, laser cannon, last two are flex slots for whatever. OR either of the Dilly’s, nade pistol, stun grenade/supply pack, EAT, flex slots (Any armor with fortified) For bugs: “call the exterminator” incendiary breaker or blitzer, grenade pistol, incendiary impact/ flamer, supply pack or jump pack , toxic gas, flex slot (Any Engineer armor)
looooOOoooved this! im a jack of all trades or a lone survivor myself.. My typical go to is the Sickle, Stuns Grenades, Grenade Pistol. Im a fan of things that go boom so my strats are - Auto Cannon, EATS, 500kg and a 120 for that perfect breach or bug nest
I see this and will give it a shot once I get home from work. I can tell you now I use a build similar and it's really good especially in pubs because it covers all types of situations.
is there a way to know what enemy groups we're going to face before going in? Sometimes it's Spewers, Stalkers, or flying hellspawn. The latter two especially, would call for using different loadouts. It's frustrating when the loadouts are mismatched to enemy types.
Hey again. I decided to update my builds because I wanted more flash lol. I still stand by old build but these are my current and this time both vs bots and bugs is a bit different now. VS BUGS Armour: light armour with engineering skill Eruptor Adven. Pistol Thermite Grenades Booster: full ammo one (cant remember name 😂) Stratagems: Stalwart Supply backpack Rail cannon strike Eagle air strike VS BOTS: Armour: Heavy (either fortified or med skill, if you rather med or heavy then I recommend engineering skill) Breaker Grenade Pistol Thermites Booster: stamina Stratagems: Machine Gun Supply backpack Rail cannon strike Eagle airstrike (or O.laser) For bots allows me bit of freedom to get closer, control as much as I can and Thermite or rail strike bigger targets. Supply pack keeps me alive with more Stim and more Grenades. For bugs speed here and control. Speed to place more thermites and create better gaps so I can control smaller bugs. Eruptor helps with med size bugs and with thermites takes down chargers fast to save my stratagems for control on field. I also found following what I call the ninja in group and supporting him works really well here. Also the Eruptor is fun to used once I got used to it. I love having two different sets now. Used ww could save load outs so I don't have to keep changing armours and gear around all the time 😂. I added boosters in there because without stamina the heavy armour dont feel right also we don't talk about boosters much in our builds lol.
@@FrostyHots 2 or 3 to head will soften and cause it to bleed. You can either shoot it in butt to finish or if you got time or just want too 4 to 6 to kill it. Sometimes it happens in 5. Or if you did some damage to it first then 3 or 4 could kill it. If you got good aim you be able to take it out very fast and save your stratagems for bigger targets Sometimes with 1 shot with eruptor after 2 or 3 Grenades can kill it
@@FrostyHots if you like more details I discover the parts best to throw them at from a video here on RUclips. Dont know how you feel about me putting here RUclipsr name or link to video but after I watch it I went to try my self and been hooked.
I'm a lone survivor player because most of the time I die to stupidity more then I did to the enemy. I clear 50-60% of the map most of the time with 0-1 deaths. I ran light armor, shield pack, duff duff, grenade pistol, impacts, eagle air, and 500.
Against the bot (not effective, but fun for difficulty 7, maybe 8-9 but I have skill issue). Though it isn't a difference maker, you are still going to dish out some fairly desirable results if you do it right. The Recoiless Rifle paired with the Expendable AT makes a fun duck hunting combo. With this, your primary task is to make sure that you shoot down as many dropships as possible. Another thing with RR + EAT is that it trivializes hulks (and factory striders to an extent). Lastly (and only use this as a last ditch trick), with the amount of AT shots you're given between the 2 weapons, you could do a "F*ck you in particular" move and take out a handful of heavy/rocket devastator with 1 well placed shot from close to medium range. You could use the quasar, and save yourself a bagpack slot, but RR and EAT is a cooler pair than QC and EAT.
I had a class I played with the old Eruptor. Called it the Picker. I was basically decent CC with the ability to quickly drop a medium threat ASAP with the shrapnel. 3 bile Spewers? Now its 2. Group of Devastators? Now 1 or two are dead at max range. REALLY miss my hit n run style.
I'm curious to see how would an orbital EMS + Orbital precision do with this combo? Would you get more kills/ heavier Terminids killed with that big combo? Thanks for sharing as well!
@@FrostyHots it would very likely work but the groups I’m in don’t seem to lack for dealing with heavies so much it seems. Orbital EMS has the added side effect of telling my allies to GTFO without killing then in uncoordinated groups as well so I have a clear shot for Airburst it’s really fun. I spam EAT and Orbital rail to do my part with heavies, I almost never feel useless.
I fight on both fronts with firstly the new stun SMG combined with the ballistic shield and Qasar. Typically run a 500kg with the eagle airstrike. I feel as though I am protected enough to deal with any issue, while also singling out any small/medium threats so either I can get a headshot or my team can blast them. I can handle chargers and hulks if I get behind them but if not I’ve got the qasar to blast them in the mouth piece
I've yet to run the ballistic shield against bugs. I'm assuming that's what you're doing here right? If so, what's the interaction like from the shield against bugs. Does it tank Spewers acid and tank melee hits?
@@FrostyHots it doesn’t tank spewed acid unfortunately but it definitely lasts longer than the shield generator and helps with hunters who jump in your face I think but I’ve actually been running a jump pack a lot more recently!
Dude, you need to kill chargers with the flamethrower by aiming for one of its legs. It pretty much melts them in 2 seconds. Why is everybody still aiming for the head?
I was thinking about making sure the flame AoE was hitting both of the legs. So it looks like I'm hitting center mass (head) when my objective was both legs. So it's better to target just one of the legs? Good to know if so.
@@YaBoiFetz Thanks for the tip there because I didn't think about body parts with those individual health on each body party which would equal a kill. Thanks again!
For bots, I enjoy being able to take out large enemies and clusters of enemies quickly. I run the auto cannon for general use, eagle airstrike for taking out bases or large groups of enemies, 110mm rocket pods (absolutely amazing for tanks and cannon turrets) and my final spot is flexible: if I want to be stealthier I go 380 or Laser to take out bot drops and large bases, if I want to have a more head on approach I go 500kg or Precision strike
I guess my playstyle is similar to the hybrid and survivor, I tend to solo most things so I try to base my loadout on being able to at least deal with every potential enemy. For bugs I’d go I.breaker, g.piston, I.impact, scout armour, quasar, jetpack, airstrike/cluster, gas/railcannon. For bots I go dominator, senator/g.pistol, stun/impact, scout armour, AMR/laser cannon, jetpack, airstrike, orbital laser/railcannon
That's a good question, I would see to test this out to get see if that works. My initial thoughts would be no because I have used the Napalm Strike and Napalm incendiary together. Which I didn't see anything die quicker, but I certainly could be wrong as well.
In short, because of the hordes of enemys I´m running out of ammo with the Sickle even on cold planets. If you play in random groups often someone else calls down the resupply and most likely on the opposite side of the map. More mags please AH. Once I unlock it, I will switch to a grenade pistol, at least try it and G-13 Incendiary Impact. Redeemer on semi auto Blitzer G10 Incediary Quasar Shield generator Napalm airstrike Gatling sentry
I've noticed for myself when using the Sickle, I am having to micro a bit more of my loadout because of the said reason. I still use it and am now taking the Sickle more on missions that are spawning an extreme amount of Chaff "Nuking Nursery". Thanks for sharing your laodout!
bot diver here. A phenomenal loadout I love using is defender or pummeler smg with the ballistic shield, grenades pistol, stuns and laser cannon. It can take out anything in reasonable amounts of time including factory striders and gunships.
Fire Shotgun, Quasar, Laser Drone, Nade Pistol, Stun Nades, 500 kg, Railcannon, with any Light armor you want doesn't rly matter 2+ Stims or Nades whatever. I often have more kills as my other teammates combined. For Bots... :D screw bots they are boring and annoying. AMR kills every bot so who cares.
Hybrid ≈ Lone wolf When you have no one to rely on you have to be able to do everything yourself and have a way to efficiently kill every type of enemy. There is no way Im talking EATs if Im always aeay from my team, I'll take flamethrower because it can kill everything except bile titans and 500kg or precision for bile titans. Incendiary shotgun for primary because its the best, stun grenade to stun chargers and granade pistol for bugholes. For automatons I use AMR/Railgun/Autocannon for hulks, walkers and devastators, often its railgun because its THE BEST against these three types of enemies, precision strike for tanks and objectives, Commando to destroy bases without engaging in combat
I tend to run the ark shoot gun cos it can stager and push back so good for spewers coz the stagger stops them from well spewing as for a side arm grenade pistol for bug holes and containers and as a grenade the stun as for starts orbital gass and napom strike both can close holes and brake open containers then supply back pack and flamethrower yes this is a cc build it can handle all but titans I also use medic armor so I can be more risky and survive more like for example calling a gass right on me coz there's so much small shit or running through fire with no real risk its good enough to run on helldive and kick ass uts best at beaches throw a gass on it and most stuff will die then napom once or twice and unless it's a charger or titan it will die this also means you make for a grate fall back for teammates being chased buy everything
My problem with super specialised builds is that you always have to rely on your teammates. So your team has to play in close proximity to each other all the time. Which is difficult with randos.
I am a stealth/sniper build. I go into toaster camps and deactivate/destroy objectives without support from my team or even being detected. "You guys get the west side of the map, ill get the east side... dont follow me."
I've found that once you learn how to use the Eagle Airburst, it is an indispensable part of any loadout. Learn, as in, not blow up your entire team on deploy.
If you want crowd control there is only one option, 4 sentry guns and be smart about your placement. Keep them far outside of the action to prevent bots and bugs from targeting them and they all have extremely long range. Ill average 200 to 400 kills for bots and 500+ for bugs.
@@FrostyHots placement is key, up high behind the group is best or far off to the sides if on level ground. Keeping yourself or your teammates closer to the action will prevent bots and bugs from destroying them. As for a support weapons there is usually 1 teammate who will drop you one or just grab an abandoned one from someone's dead body. I have the most fun running sentries as long as your teammates can handle tanks, turrets, hulks and chargers although a well placed auto cannon or rocket sentry will do some work on any of them. Gunship fabricator? The the auto cannon says I'll blow up every gunship in the sky.
That's a great point. Looking over this, I can see different guns being used now and stratagems. Let me piece some things together and we will get it out soon!
@@FrostyHots awesome! Even though I love this patch it sadden me because I really enjoy my play style but its become harder because it feels like at times like bug breaches and bot drops are endless. Making it harder even with supply back to keep up my thermites. Like we being fighting 5 to 6 chargers. No way I can keep resupplying with just backpack. I found myself calling down supply box mainly for me. When you bring out new video I will post my builds becauae I currently still pondering them. They working so far just want to keep playing with it to be sure but I will say both builds for bots and bugs are completely different from what I had before. Cant wait to see new video I may get new ideas
@@wargandi7659 Absolutely, just know I will do my best to showcase different loadouts per the playstyles. But I will also make sure to bring up that you can mix and match xyz. So maybe I can share an idea or what not. I will tell you, I've found the flamethrower and stun grenade combo for me absolutely destroys the behemoth swarms.
@@FrostyHots oh I to notice how good that combo is now because I was playing with Grenades my self. I threw one stun and my fellow helldiver had flamethrower. When I saw this I just threw a second stun to keep it there till he kill it. Now I am keeping thermites on bug build I just feel naked but on bots, stuns may be it.
me? i can be everything can kill anything by my own but doesnt i can do best on anything either the build is 1. Missile sentry 2. Gatling or Machine gun sentry 3. Recoiless rilfle 4. Napalm primary is Adjudicator sencondary is granade pistoll grenade is molotov
My current loadout is the HMG, Dominator, Grenade Pistol, stun grenade, supply pack, orbital precision and orbital cluster I sometimes swap the Dominator for the Pummeler (which is generally the better option) for its stun and crowd control but dying is a pain when you drop far from your weapon and can’t deal with mediums. Or I’ll use the blitzer. This allows me to deal with Chaf fairly effectively and bile titans. Against bots this loadout is a breeze. Eagle stratagems are definitely better but I prefer the orbitals.
I need more loadouts for bots as I'm primarily play Terminids. I've tried out the pummeler for Bots and enjoyed the staggering. What're your variations to the HMG?
@@FrostyHots for the HMG either the Pummeler, Dominator or the scorcher are the best options vs bots, scorcher also allows you to take out gun ships which is the only enemy you’ll struggle with using HMG If it’s a 3 stratagem mission then take air strike, if you have all stratagems then take either of the following, air strike, orbital laser, 320mm barrage, precision strike, orbital cluster, 110 rocket pods The best loadout vs bots though would be either of the primaries I mentioned or the counter sniper or plasma punisher with either the quasar, railgun, anti material rifle or EATS, always bring stuns for hulks and grenade pistol for striders
i am jack of all traits master of all. as armor the one that comes with the gasmask becouse its stylish and granade spam. i use a flametrower as my primary and the punisher shotgun as my seconday. for my second secondary i use the granade pistol becouse extra granades. i use the eagle strike for crowds and if my 500kg is on cooldown. im out of ammo or becouse im being overwealmed by hunters and 500 kg if bile titans. i use the guard dog for the things behind me and becouse i dont always always get everything. this loadout only works on bugs and not on bots. i find it to work great against everything and aspecially when your alone. it may not take aim but it takes strategic planning so you dont zone yourself off with the flame trower. one tip for this loadout. start lauching maniacly in your mike when you start spraying a bug breach. so may democracy guide your strategems to the holes and your finger to the trigger
Completely sleeping on the blitzer. It can crowd control the majority of enemies by itself including stalkers. Paired with a rover, you only need to worry about chargers and titans
Hey Everyone! I wanted to try something a little different with what we do here on the channel which are build loadouts. As a reminder, this is by no means the only 4 playstyles and there are an infinite amount. The beauty of this game is we get to play the way we want. So be sure to let us know how you like to play! An great example, I've received since releasing this was a support style that runs more sentries! I enjoy engaging with this community, as always thanks for checking out the video!
Wouldint it be cool if you use any tybe of fire on the toxic gass i reblases the fire with fire.
Automaton diver here. My one and only stratagem loadout for the bots are: Eagle Airstrike, for the fabricators, 380mm Barrage, for the Detector Towers, Command Bunkers, Heavy Bot Outposts, Recoilless Rifle, for anti tank and tower purposes, and lastly, Autocannon Sentry, for backup and lure fire. I run this with Scout Light Armor, Eruptor (to deal with Fab Vents or Broadcast tower if you have the angle), Senator or Vindicator for CQC, and stun grenade. I call this the Demolisher, for dealing with objectives. You go alone and stealth, airstrikes on outposts, then get out of the area for another objective.
Hey, fellow automaton divers here. What tips do you have for the 380mm barrage? I personally find the orbital laser to be a bit more reliable in clearing heavy outposts if you throw it correctly. Would love to learn more.
@@hisyamsulaiman5522 my main concern for the Orbital Laser is the limit. But it does clear up enemies pretty nicely. The Barrage however, only takes 2 direct hits to a Factory Strider, while the Laser takes a long while to melt through. The 380mm has a 40m blast radius so try to not get to near it. You can use the 120mm but it has lower damage than the 320mm and only has 30m blast radius.
Making sure I keep this in mind because I'm still learning more about Automatons. I get wrecked so fast lol.
@@hisyamsulaiman5522put it right in the center of outposts and use it to soften up based before you go in. It is also really good if there is a massive bot drop. Running away from the flare and dropping a 380 can soften up the horde pretty well
Quick question: would eagle airstrike be interchangeable with eagle smokes? I tend to prefer them over the other
you forgot the join a squad, run off alone, grab agro, run away and agro more of the map, then run back to the squad.
Then kills their teammates and takes ages to call them back in.
Creek vet here and if you want the best route for completion on bots, do stealth, just because they look at you, doesn’t mean you are done, run away where bot drops are being called, bring anti mat rifle any grenade, and bring stuff like the electric orbital strike, also you can find a few videos such as Reginald and his advanced guide or a vids like “pushing the stealth mechanics of helldivers to it’s limits” that really made me a better player. Spill oil helldivers
Thanks for the info fellow helldiver!
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The arc shotgun is a good one for your crown control loadout. Don't ADS and it will split into three.
Bitzer is so much fun but the fire breaker is still better because of its range and dot
Sorry, what is ADS?
@@lyonidus3073 You must be new to fps (first person shooters). Well, to answer your question, ADS means to ‘aim down sight’ by looking through the sight or scope attached to your weapon.
No no don’t speak it’s name there going to nerf it
@@smellyberries1617 😬😶🤐
I'm a Jack of All Trades player but I do have a penchant for Anti-Tank but the only unusual loadout I will frequently run is, on bugs, if my team has plenty of AT, I like to run the MG-43, the Guard Dog (the bullet one), 500kg and Auto-Cannon Sentry, I think it's MUCH better horde clear than the flamer. 500 because I hate Titian kitin', but I'll hold onto them unless my AT teammates are indisposed. The Autocannon sentry is for when we start to buckle or a big horde, just throw it somewhere up and out the way and it'll happily chew through the 6 chargers chasing my AT teammates about.
Edit: Doesn't work if you have an ahole who runs off alone and calls in the supply drop just for himself, you need that 1 supply brick but it will generally see you to the next supply drop since it gives you 2 boxes of MG ammo (300 bullets) and refills all mags of the guard dog.
If you really wanna be a “jack of all trades” use the autocannon, bring along the 500kg for bugs and you’re good against literally everything. The only real downside is it very much scales with player skill but that’s also the best thing about it. You don’t have to worry about AH nerfing it because the average player sucks with it and doesn’t use it, or they simply rely too much on shield/rovers and by their data and terrible balance team it’s not “popular” enough to nerf.
Edit: all that is assuming you only play diff9, the rifle guard dog in your build makes me think you don’t. Which is fine, if nothing else I suggest at least giving the autocannon a try.
@@ozylocz4078 Jack of all Trades as in I can and will fill any role. I like specialised builds in team games.
I've used the Autocannon extensivaly and I much prefer the MG-43 + Guard Dog vs Bugs by a LARGE margin. Autocannon is godly vs Bots because of the prevalence of Devistators and all the heavier enemies have medium weakspots. I find it funny it's considered a skill weapon it's no more difficult to use than anything else.
I play mostly 8s becase I play with a friend who isn't as "aware" as me but if I play alone I'll do 9s, there really isn't much between them.
Why the ship module for more efficient restock doesn't work with MG 43?
@@sirgaz8699 “personal preference” seems to have a HUGE influence on your build, I don’t mean anything necessarily negative by that but the regular guard dog is absolutely terrible in comparison to the rover if you must use a guard backpack.
I genuinely believe that when weighing all your options the guard dog is the worst stratagem in the game. There’s not even a niche situation where it’s better than ANYTHING else.
I’d also prefer more anti tank in that build given the fact that the only things that really matter vs bugs is how fast you can deal with chargers/titans.
I also said it SCALES with player skill very well, which it very much does. There’s hardly any skill to using things like the arc thrower, quasar and plenty of other weapons. The autocannon rewards your good positioning and aim, it punishes you for not counting your shots. You can also two shot chargers and hulks, but it’s very easy to miss so it incentivizes good aim. You must have not used it much if you can’t see this, I’d suggest getting some more practice with it.
@@ozylocz4078 The last patch nerfed the rovers damage 30% and buffed the guard dog 30%, the guard dog can glance at a pack of hunters and evaporate them in a few seconds. The limited ammo is only a problem if you're not getting a supply bricks which you want for the MG-43 anyway, they both run out at the same time.
Yes, I have played with the Auto-cannon extensively, I know it 2 shots Hulks and Chargers (though I rarely use it against bugs) and do it frequently, I know positioning plays a key, I'm good at it and my aim is good. I also preferred my suggestion with "if my team has plenty of AT, I like to run the MG-43," we don't need more anti heavy, we need anti-horde and the MG is better than the flamer, it's a team loadout. On the flip side have you touched the MG since level 3?
Level 64 Automaton diver here. I prefer fighting bots but they are very different to handle than the bugs. My current stratagem loadout is: Ballistic shield, Sniper Rifle, Eagle 500 kg bomb, and EMS mortar sentry. For my starting gear, I'm rocking the Pummeler, Senator, Stun grenades, and a Democracy Protects armor set.
I used to be all about the energy shield but the ballistic has grown on me. It really shines when you can hold it up and stare down bots. The shield will protect you against most small laser fire, from troopers to Heavy Devastators. (note, it will protect but ragdoll you with rockets does not block melee attacked) With the ballistic shield, you can wield a one-handed weapon, hence the Senator for picking off troopers and getting important headshots on devastators. Pummeler is a new favorite for this loadout as it stun locks enemies which gives you breathing room when berserkers are charging you or devastators won't let up their attacks.
Sniper Rifle I love for taking out heavy units from way too far away. You can snipe the eye of a Hulk for a 2 shot kill. Devastators can be knocked around with it if you can't land their headshot. Hitting tanks and turrets on their heat sinks from so far away they don't even engage is great, though they take more than one magazine. It can down gunships if you hit the same engine, though bullet travel needs to be considered. A neat synergy with the ballistic shield, is that while you have a two handed weapon you, the shield is on your back but still protects from shots. Great for when retreating from enemies.
Stun grenade is another must as it again allows for some breathing room when you're getting swarmed by little units or bigger ones. It'll stun a hulk and give you an moment to line up those eye shots with your sniper rifle. It does not affect tanks and it does mean you can't blow up frabricators. Your sniper rifle can open up shipping crates though.
EMS sentry I usually bring on any type of mission because it can lean much needed support against swarms of any kind (bug or bot). You don't realize how much grief it can save you until you realize a whole patrol has been stun locked since they got dropped off. The sentry has a range of 125 m and since it fires straight up, can be positioned safely behind cover or in craters/pits. It also doesn't harm your fellow helldivers, who will be slowed (in contrast, enemies are totally stunned) and not damaged. It's also great for throwing in the opposite direction you're running as it will draw enemies to it while you run elsewhere. It can also alert you to enemies creeping up on you, but it will also pick fights with anything in the 125 m range.
Eagle 500 kg bomb is just plain useful in most any situation, as the video mentions. It's great when you can get two runs with the ship upgrade. Useful for anything big and heavy you need to take out. You can also always swap this out for your orbital/eagle/barrage of choice depending on mission.
Oh, and Democracy Protects as an armor perk is my favorite because with that 50% chance of surviving lethal damage, you can get a second chance at life (to stim yourself) from most any wildly damaging attack up to and including setting off a hellbomb in your own face. (though don't bank on it, it's still only a 50/50 chance)
This loadout allows me to support my team, handle patrols, go after objectives, and delete heavy units on my own. It works best with a team that has different loadouts that cover other areas (such as crowd control or anti-air ship stuff). I also have used it solo to success, though that's more cause my connection sucks than choice.
TL;DR My Automaton loadout is: Ballistic shield, Sniper Rifle, Eagle 500 kg bomb, EMS mortar sentry, Pummeler, Senator, Stun grenades, and a Democracy Protects armor.
I can hold off devastators and delete hulks with this loadout while running around to get the super samples cause I am a sample hound!
Goodjob soldier
Having a specialized team drasticly improved helldives from personal experience. When I actually manage to get my elite guild to make a specialized load out for a mission we have minimal deaths and extreme efficiency not to mention fun. When everyone just does whatever willingly we end up scattered and unprepared either for gunships or at ats or tanks or hulks or devastators etc. if ur specialty is small mobs in big groups then it helps to have a heavy specialist with eats and spears and orbital rails and 110mm etc
Should prolly mention we look at bugs like silly target practice even though we only do lvl 9 difficulty. We mainly dk bots when we want serious challenge
That's fair, I am giga garbage at Bots. It's 100% skill issue, but when I play with friends we naturally select certain loadouts to breeze through! But not 100% necessary. That's for commenting!
I was garbage at bots when I first made the switch for quite a while prolly took a good half a month or so before I finally figured it out and got used to it. It requires complete rewiring of how you play basicly changing the mind set from horde shooter to tactical gameplay. Stealth isn't required but it definitely helps. These days we rarely stealth. If we do it is aggressive stealth. We don't often avoid much we just ambush and take out whatever is ahead of us with tactical combined strikes before they can call in reinforcments. That don't mean we don't get stubbornly stuck in continuously hopeless battles where there is more.and more enemies then we can kill from time to time lol
@@FrostyHots A cheat skill for dealing with bots is learning to use the shield generator emplacement and the HMG emplacement. Drop the HMG first then the bubble. Nothing can touch you in the bubble while you can shred everything with the HMG emplacement. Watching Devastators chicken walkers fall to pieces is so satisfying. Even Hulks can get their eyes shot out. Factory Strider? You can remove the chin guns and do damage to the face. You're impervious to all damage for 30sec while the shield bubble is up, then clear out. Even the big gun on top of the Strider can't pierce it. Gunships? No problem. And you can drop it every 3min. while the Shield Generator is every 70 seconds (63sec with mods). Two people with the Shield Generator can have it up almost indefinitely.
@@randallsanchez3161 Oh is that so? How much damage absorption does it take or is it strictly a time base thing?
I'm the lone guy that gets all the samples while everyone else does the objective I like working alone
Divers like you are blessing. Y'all get all my super credits! :D
I honestly dont mind this. If team okay with it why not. This allows team to gain more samples in quicker time while at same time lesser chance to lose all sample. I would gladly lay my life down and fail to extract for you if that means getting more samples to upgrade my ship.
@@wargandi7659 totally I always ask the leader first anyways just incase
@@Doom-vz9mmthat’s great of you to ask the leader! Communication is key. Something that often happens is when team is split in two or there’s a lone wolf, is when someone dies they get reinforced by a player that has wondered off. Most annoying thing ever! Now I’m completely on the opposite side of the map without my weapons and samples. And this happens when the lone wolf hasnt even suggested going solo. Really I just kick those players from my team because they mess everything up and won’t listen to the game chat… So again, communication is key and it’s great that you think about the team rather than yourself!!
@@GamingPIPI I always ask bc I dont need a kick I usually just do it to help with samples and usually dont stray to far from the objectives just incase of a teammate dying
Automaton diver here: my build is usually a Vanguard, I like to play offensively and take out enemy settlements as soon as possible, which means many eagles and orbital lasers. I take a lot of inspiration from the WW1 German Sturmtruppen. Either that, or Lone Survivor. In some cases, I do both, meaning I'll assault the base on my own
I lean more towards jack-of-all trades. Blitzer and Eagle Napalm to CC; Quasar, Thermite Grenades, and Orbital Rail for heavies; Grenade Pistol for holes; and 500kg for a little bit of everything.
Due to running arc weapons for so long, I've developed a shoot and scoot playstyle where I'm always kiting to keep corpses and debris from eating my shots. It always felt awkward to for me to use the EAT like this as I kept losing where I called it down, and the reloading of the Recoilless Rifle kept getting me killed.
Drop napalm, clear extras with Blitzers, and deal with heavies when there's no swarm to slow me down. Honestly, with the Blitzer + napalm combo, I can deal with everything except chargers and titans. Though hive guards give me some trouble, I can usually keep even a group of 6 or so of them stun locked and either deal with them using heavy killing equipment, or just blitzing them until the heat death of the universe.
My favorite loadout rn is:
Bugs: orbital Gas, 500KGs, flame thrower and energy shield. Run stuns grenade pistol, and breaker incendiary
Bots: orbital precision strike, 500KGs, energy shield and rail gun. Then I run grenade pistol, stuns or impacts depending on the mission, and Jar5. If the planet has gunships I’ll swap the rail for the quasar.
Super fun loadouts. Orbital precision is one of my favorites. Nothing flashy but crazy one shot potential and you get it super quick when you have your orbital ship bay maxed out.
I'm the WildCard, you never know wtf im going to do, all you know is that I always bring a 380mm and a Walking barrage doesnt matter where we go.
Interesting video and i can recognize myself in several of these archetypes. I can change depending of the mood but usually against bugs, i'm a boss killer with Recoilless Rifle. I really like the RR, and the trick to shorten the reload time make it feel so much better to use (switch weapon when the shell icon is full to cancel the animation. The reload is still completed).
Since you asked loadouts against Automatons, i've named my go-to loadout "Demolisher" mainly focused on destroying enemy bases and defenses. It is teamplay oriented, but you are performing best when you wander around your team, letting them take the aggro while you are taking down factories, cannon turrets and various highly dangerous targets to ease their struggles.
My main stratagem is the Spear, as well as Eagle Airstrike, Orbital Railcannon Strike and Orbital Laser (i keep it for big bases, but i usually drop this one if i have the -1 stratagem modifier). The Spear is really good against bots since there is so many eligible targets for its lock-on system. You can destroy factories from a safe distance and it can sometime destroy adjacent structures as Jammer or Detection Towers without having to go inside. The Spear has its flaws (the finicky lock-on system as well as being really ammo hungry), so the other stratagems are here to help with the task. Eagle Airstrike can take down multiple factories (if close enough), cannon turrets, as well as already weakened Striders if you can land most of the shells on them. And the Orbital Laser can lay waste the biggest bases (almost) by itself.
This loadout can also deal with high priority targets as Hulks (one or two hits with the Spear if it's in the eye or the back, or simply with the ORS) as well as Striders pretty easily (the Spear can destroy the top turret and your long range primary can deal with the gatlings, making it harmless). The Spear can lock on Aerial Gunships, but it's not worth it to waste ammo when they are so many. Same thing with your primary: you can take down one or two that annoys you if you have medium armor penetration, but the best course of action is to let your teammates take the aggro while you are rushing toward the factory to call the hellbomb (since you already are satelliting around the group).
Primary/Secondary/Grenade are flexible, so anything able to support the team from mid/long range is good for dealing with hordes of regular enemies (for example Eruptor, Dominator or Scorcher, with Redeemer and Stun grenades). And for armor, i really like the Servo-Assisted ones since it help to launch your stratagems directly in the enemy bases (throwing while diving increase the range even further!). Alternatively, the Scout passive is very good if you like going solo or if you want to avoid patrols.
Thank you for breaking down your loadout especially the Automaton section. I'm wanting to learn new ways and loadout stratagies. I never would've guessed the versatility that the Spear can offer. I hope they fix the finnicky lock on system because the potential it offers. However, this is was very informative. Thank you for the comment!
Lvl 100 here. I can share a few of the builds I have used. I must put a warning on them though as I do not tend to play meta builds and they may feel weak or bizarre to people who don't know what they are doing. I have a recon support sniper for those who want to stay far from the fighting but still want some action. For gear you want Diligence CS, any scout armor, grenade pistol and smoke grenades. Stratagems are orbital smoke, eagle 110 rocket pods, jump pack and AMR. The goal is to support your team with stealth and high mobility ambush and sniper attacks while suppressing foes with smoke to pull allies out of harm. Also watch your radar like a hawk because the faster you can react to a problem the easier its going to be to deal with. Smokes effects are easier to see on the bots than on bugs so if smoke feels weak you can swap it out for ems and stun grenades.
I also have an engineer build I did against the bugs that I can share. gear is Plasma punisher, grenade pistol, stun grenades, and any armor with extra grenades. Stratagems are Eagle air strike, guard dog, mg sentry and auto cannon sentry. This one is a weird one, but it works so long as your sentry placement is on point. Works great on teams that like to stick together. The build relies on the two turrets to do the heavy lifting and your job is to support the turrets and team mates with stuns and staggers.
Im sure im gonna get a lot of eye rolling because of the lack of meta options, but I have stress tested these for weeks on high end 7+ missions. they do work.
I tend to play Jack but with support/survival in mind. Depending on what I feel like, Jet/supply/watchdog/shield, and three offensives or 2 with 1 support weapon. Then I'll pair up and support whoever I'm with. If it gets too hot, split and regroup to stay alive and keep samples.
Skirmisher build. 500kg, eagle air strike, emancipator, shield generator pack or spear. Breaker Incendiary for bugs, purifier for bots, grenade pistol, and stun grenades. Trailblazer armor. The build relies on early detection and high mobility to skirt the edges of combat and establish crossfire and quickly clearing targets and disengaging. Drop the emancipator when needing to hold an objective or provide a burst of heavy firepower for pushing hard targets. Bring the shield if you will need to branch off to solo scout or clear objectives so you can keep moving under fire and disengage more reliably or if you know you will need to tank a lot of fire in the emancipator. Bring the spear if you'll be more on the edge of combat to provide more pinpoint fire support or need to take out more objectives without getting bogged down on approach. Works well in any mission type where hit and run is viable and the map isn't disabled. Will struggle on defense and losing the map means you'll get flanked a lot while circling engagements. Have fun!
I play a "buddy cop" playstyle. I usually follow the objective hunting diver or more aggressive player and cover their back.
Plasma punisher and stun grenades to give them more time. Grenade pistol to close holes and doors. Ems mortar, orbital laser, rail cannon for big stuff. Secondary is usually auto cannon or eat.
I try to keep space between baddies and my team, slow things down, and prevent overwhelm.
For bugs I run similar but usually the incendiary breaker instead of the plasma punisher.
I guess it is a type of control build for the most part.
I see a blend of control and support here. Thanks for commenting your playstyle!
SAME!!! I never let anyone go alone, and I never shoot first.
Same! I always watch everyone’s backs and do mission in between when im not too busy protecting myself and others. And this playstyle is a nightmare when you’re in a team that does zero teamwork 😂. I’m always the host for that reason and let them know to either work as a team or get kicked. Because usually they just become a liability and exhaust all the reinforcement budget… I hate it when people refuse to work as a team. I think everyone should watch each other’s back, always. And maybe if you are good enough one person can become lone wolf tops!! That is most efficient.
Orbital rail canon. Well placed 500kg eagles, grenade launcher, supply pack , pummeler, secondary grenade launcher, impact grenades . Light gunner armor. The amount of grenades act as a hand held eagle airstrike. The pummeler always stuns stalkers and chargers (back side shots until they burst.)
Thanks for sharing!
I love to switch it up!!!! I’ll try different loadouts on almost every drop.
Blizter, grenade pistol, impact nades, rover, EAT, 500kg and rail strike. Can deal with anything solo or in a group. Only main issue is directly targeting shriekers but if you learn to dodge them the rover will eventually kill them.
I play a crowd control style. I go
Breaker incendiary
Machine gun (I know not meta)
Orbital gas strike
500KG
Jet pack
Stun grenades
Grenade pistol for bug holes
I wouldnt worry about whats meta lol. If you read my post on loadout I am so not meta but it works fine for me lol.
Never seen a 500kg take out multiple bile titans. I have however, seen it barely take out a swarm of hunters.
I was actually shocked to see it happened. I somehow clumped 3 of them and it was a 1 in a million chance I bet since I know how inconsistent the 500 kg can be. But I can attest, it is possible.
I run quite a few 2.
My fav hybrid / assault loudout is: stalwart, eagle cluster bomb, precision strike, 500kg.
for my croud control i usually use: airburst rocket launcher, and some more stuff for the rest of the team such as 500kg, precision strike, shield generator backpack, or tesla tower.
for support i tend to run: anti material rifle (for all guard,elite warrior,artilery bugs), jump pack and eagle strafing run + whatever the team seems to need.
and for lone survivor, more often then not i run for autocannon :D
Mainly automaton diver but if i head to deal with terminids i usually don't use (above) "hybrid" build.
I play Bots, and my Lone Survivor is the Michelin Man Armor, reinforced limbs booster, the scorcher, the supply pack, impacts, and the quasar cannon
My usual bot Strategem loadout tends to be 500kg, orbital rail, shield bag, and EAT. My usual bug loadout tends to be 500kg, orbital rail, jetpack, and flamethrower. And I’m sure I’ll find one for those evil squids too.
Bot hunter here and a range player.
AMR - my go to weapon for distance kills
EMP mortar & autocannon sentry - to guard me and in case any get close
Orbital railgun - hulk and tanks
Concussive SMG & stun grenade - stagger enemies for air strike
Automation diver my go to loadout is:
Auto cannon
Eagle airstrike
Orbital laser
And depending on what my teammates have either the rail cannon or explosive mortar. I take the rail cannon if my teammates are using more crowd control, the mortar if they are more boss killers.
With this loadout the auto cannon is your true primary as it allows you to deal with anything the bots can throw at you. The eagle airstrike to deal with groups and fabricators that you can’t get a good angle on. The orbital laser serves as an “oh shit” button for when you are being swarmed. Then depending on teammates the rail cannon will allow you to immediately remove a boss (except for the factory strider) . The mortars as a long term fuck anything in this general area stratagem.
A few other notes, the auto cannon is valuable less cause of its damage and more so its ability to stun most bots allowing you to stun lock devastators and striders until dead. For tanks and turrets you have to get a good angle on them otherwise use airstrikes, rail cannon, mortar ( if set up already). You can kill hulks if you go for the eyes but I find that it is better to either go for the legs or arms of a hulk and set up a teammate for success or allow you to just ignore it. For factory striders shoot and destroy the mini-gun turrets and you just made it easier to handle.
when using the mortars always keep in mind where you are in relation to the enemy, if they are getting close to you and your mortar is set up, you should just run away. Also try and place your mortar somewhere that has cover it’ll keep it up for longer.
In terms of guns go for whatever you want the auto-cannon is your real primary, I tend to use the Diligence + grenade pistol + impact grenades. The grenade pistol and impacts will give you more weapons which can harm devastators quickly and easily.
I need to be better when killing the Hulks and Factory Striders. The eye was a pit of a skill issue for me, so I went for the legs. But that also can take some time to disable them. How many shots do you reckon with the AC on the Factory Strider's turret to knock it out?
I tend to dive bots, but my playstyle works just as good against bigs too.
I usually tend to specialise in heavy building/AT/AA with the spear, while also playing support with the purifier for long range stun and AOE damage. Other than that, its usually just the orbital railcannon, 500kg/OPS and either the rocket/gatling sentry/HMG emplacement
My loadout (for bugs) is probably a mix of hybrid and lone survivor. I go after main/side objectives alone while my team focuses on other main/side/nest objectives. I do not touch bug nests unless it’s really convenient. I use AMR (yes it’s great for bugs), jump pack, punisher shotgun (mostly), verdict, 500kg, EAT, impact incendiary, and light stim armor. Probably the best survivability build and I can go most games dying either once or none. Most of the 1 times I die are from teamkill damage when we meet for extract.
AMR is fantastic and really satisfying. Also, the Verdict is growing on me because it packs quite a punch. Even though it's only 10 rounds, shieet you just lop Terminids heads off lol.
My personal favourite loadout for bugs rn is the 500kg bomb, orbital gas strike, recoilles rifle and a turret it most often being either an autocannon turret or a gatling turret with the promary being breaker incendiary, granade launcher pistol for secondary and impact for granades (although I'll probably take impact incendiary when I unlock it). This build is more of a jack of all trades with the power to kill chargers and bile titans through 500kg bombs, autocannon sentry or recoilles's shots while also being able to deal with bug breaches through gas strike, fire from breaker incendiary and the turret.
Also the reason why I tak gas strike over napalm strike is because having 2 eagles equipped at once becomes really annoying with mamaging the cooldowns on both and a second reason why I take gas strike is because of it's short cooldwon. With napalm airstrike I tend to have moments where I would love to use it but I can't cuz I used the the last one recently and have to wait for cooldown, where for gas strike the cooldown is small enough where I never found myself in thet situations yet
I tend to focus on heavies and medium armored enemies that could cause trouble for my allies, and have a primary to keep the mobs off me. I always run the hybrid medium-heavy armorset with the fortified passive, impact grenades for quick bursts of damage, and the senator since it can deal damage to nearly anything I shoot at.
For bots, I tend to run a shield and SMG combo, allowing me to tank incoming fire without instantly dying; the AMR or the EAT to deal with medium and heavy armored targets; the cluster bomb since it excells at dealing with crowds of light to medium armored enemies; and the 500 kg, to deal with buildings, tanks, and factory striders.
For bugs, I tend to stick with the incendiary shotgun, since I can deal with the crowds easily with one to two shots, but still have enough immediate damage to take out heavier targets (plus being able to damage anything I can hit); the AMR and EAT, for the same reasons as above; the cluster strike, 500 kg, or the railcannon, depending on if bile titans are likely to appear; and either the supply pack or jetpack, depending on if I think I'll be able to get up to any shenanigans with climbing to places I shouldn't be and raining down fire with my AMR.
Thanks for sharing your loadout and breakdown of it!
Automaton Front helldiver here, I find the hit and run playstyle to be the best for me wherein I have a jump pack eagle airstrike and either a quasar or a sniper with the last slot being flexible, stealth close to the objective then Hit fast and Hit hard
Then run even faster
Call that Guerilla Warfare style
Botdiver. Also an objective diver.
500kg, 380 for large area and detector.
Depending on the team.
Pummeler/riotshield/quasar
Scorcher/jetpack/amr
Always bring a grenade pistol for fabricators
my playstyle is “objective clearer”
stratagems:
airstrike
380mm/orb laser
shield pack
eat
or
airstrike
380mm/orb laser
autocannon
Autocannon,napalm,500kg,Eat-17, booster fill. Stun nade good combo for napalm and 500. nade pistol for side arm.
B-08 Light Gunner
Bugs: Incendiary Shotgun, Redeemer, Incendiary grenades
Bots: PLAS-1 Scorcher or Liberator Penetrator, Redeemer, HE grenades
Both: Eagle Airstrike, Orbital Laser, Laser Dog, EAT
Level 80 Ship maxed out.
My go to for bugs on t8-9 is jar 5, gp, and incendiary impact. Then i go heavy focused eat AND quasar laser rover to help keep chaff off me while i clear heavies and napalm/500 kg depending on how my team is kitted for aoe or heavy clear.
Bots i usually run jar 5/ scorcher, gp, emp grenade. Then Standard airstrike, 380 barrage, shield backpack then either, railgun/quasar/amr depending on team, sometimes I'll swap shield for AC and AC sentry
Funny enough your boss killer loadout is the exact same as my main terminid load out down to the sidearm and the grenade. I can say it works exceptionally well against all types of elite bugs but the only downside is that it struggles to deal with hordes.
My hybrid boss killer stratagem loadout for Terminids is:
- Orbital Railcannon
- Recoiless Rifle (Launcher & Backpack)
- Eagle Airstrike (interchangeable with 500kg)
- Autocannon Sentry (interchangeable with Gatling Sentry if you need more crowd control)
Weapon loadout:
- ARC-12 Blitzer (infinite ammo electric shotgun which ignores shields and med-armor)
- P-4 Senator Revolver (Med-armor penetration + Rounds Reload)
- G-16 Impact Grenades (Interchangeable with G-23 Stun Grenade if having hard time lining up headshots with Recoiless Rifle on Chargers).
My current favourite loadout for the bugs has got to be: Stalwart, supply pack, airstrike and 500kg. Pretty generic loadout but i often end up with most kills at the end of the round. If youve killed all the nearby chaff enemies the stalwart is really good at pulling aggro from titans, then you can destroy the bile sack, drop the 500 close to you and force the titan into an attack.
Also having the stalwart on full RPM allows you to destroy charger leg armour from behind ( i think its a glitch). Shooting behind the legs seems to just strip the legs from the armour even tho visually its still intact.
Running those stratagems with a Democracy Protects medium or Fortified heavy armour allows you to be closer to the 500 when it drops if you need. Combined with usually incend breaker, Grenade pistol and flashbangs allows chaff freeze and destruction
"Also having the stalwart on full RPM allows you to destroy charger leg armour from behind ( i think its a glitch). Shooting behind the legs seems to just strip the legs from the armour even tho visually its still intact."
Excuse ME!?! I must try this....
@@FrostyHotsit might not happen 100% of the time but it seems to happen to me quite reliably
I lone wolf most of the time. I handle the opposite side of the map from the team to speed things along and I’m confident in myself so I run the legionnaire armor for the extra speed and stamina and throw distance. Can throw stratagems outside of agro range. The punisher for the single shell reload and stagger. Grenade pistol, incendiary grenade. EATs and quasar so I have a big boom on hand and can call in for bile titans. 2 quasar shots and both rockets in 15 seconds is usually enough to drop one. Also can utilize the drop itself to take out bug holes and chargers if you can get it to stick. Eagle clusters because you get so many of them. And the laser guard dog to handle the small targets. The only thing that this build struggles with is the green bile spewers but I guess you can take the dominator to help that but the reload time is a problem for me.
How do you stick drops to chargers?
My hybrid bug loadout: IC Breaker, Redeemer, IC Grenade, Grenade launcher, Ammo Backpack, EAT, Auto Cannon Sentry or Airstrike / Orbital of choice.
Perfect for kill hordes and Spewers with the Grenade launcher (extra Ammo needed) and and the IC Breaker + IC Grenade. For the Titans and Chargers i go with the EAT when needed. Last Strategem is a nice to have extra.
I love the dominator, killed a couple dozen stalkers completely keeping them at bay solo while the team rushed shriekers at start and got loadouts called in, they just kept coming
I play strictly random and I've found a hybrid play style to work best for me. Against bugs I often take the jar-5 for the medium armor then the stalwart and supply pack for all the little guys then usually orbital rail cannon and eagle airstrike
Ah yes, I like that build. I enjoy using the Stalwart as my primary for Chaff. Then whip out the Jar-5 for medium + for quick kills, so it's like a "secondary" weapon.
I tend to go for a more lone playstyle and drop with
light/med armor with +2 granades
Incendiary/Plasma shotgun, Granade Pistol, Stun Granade
500kg; OStriker/ECluster; Flamethrower; Shield Gen/Jumpack. Ive used the Rover a lot, but I tend to move frequently and it caused me a ton of damage to the point I literally dropped it mid breach, I lose DPS but gain sanity without it
Great video. My build you can say is hybrids.
Armour med: engineering skill
Breaker
Grenade pistol
Thermite Grenade
Thats my main for both bots and bugs. My stratagems setup for bots or bugs are similar but different.
Bots:
Heavy Machine Gun(480 speed) or machine gun (base speed)
Supply backpack
O.Rail cannon strike
O. Laser (or eagle airstrike depending on missions)
Bugs:
Stalwart ( 700 or top speed depending on engagement)
Supply backpack
O. Rail cannon
Eagle air strike
People sleep on thermite Grenades. I be using it to take down chargers, those giant tanks bots drop, cannon towers and helps with hulks. This saves up my stratagems like my eagles and lasers for when its needed to support my allies who all have same things. The supply backpack keeps you fully ammo and gives you basicly a crap tons of Grenades and witg gear setup you aim better and got my thermites you can throw. Heavy machine eats devastators like paper just tap to shoot. This build is enjoyable becauae no matter what i face i should be able to take it down.
UPDATE: So I had this itch. I always enjoy heavy armour. I was told was bad and still try this on bugs long ago as and hated it BUT I thought like night before this update why not try vs bots.(tested on level 7 suicide so keep that in mind) I didn't have heavy with engineering skill so couldn't test but I did have heavy with med skill. After like maybe 6 hours of running around in heavy with med skill i have to say it was fun. My build only suffered from less then 2 Grenades but I felt so unkillable at times. Hulks were a bit easier because I can run up and as soon as I feel fire I stim and this to heavy more then enough time then with the med skill on I switch to thermite Grenades and throw 3 or 4 to face or leg. Then I run and maybe stir again. When I turn around flame hulk is on ground burning. The heavy with mrd skill allow me to be extra aggressive on hulks and I just abuse my Supply backpack for more Stimson and Grenades. I did switch out H.machine gun for machine gun since I don't have engineering skill to help with accuracy but if you are just accurate then you just fine.
Thank you and also thanks for sharing your loadout/ breakdown. I've tried utilizing the thermite grenades and struggled using them. I love the concept of them though.
@@FrostyHots i am never perfect with my throws either. I did start abusing my backpack. I sometimes say f it and throw all 6 grenades at hulk and chargers anywhere then they just die. Then I use my backpack and get more. Messy yes, got job done yep lol. Its seems throwing 6 all over body or same spot works.
@@wargandi7659 I guess that makes sense right? Look at your bug loadout, you need something quick and refundable (like EAT/Quasar) or in this case the Thermite grenades. That's creative right there. Thanks again for sharing!
I play mostly bots I use heavy armour eruptor for striders behemoths and to knock out fabricators from a long range stalwart for clean up and energy Shiel backpack. I use eagle airstrike and orbital laser. I tend to run off knocking out bases by myself working in a circular motion around the map collecting everything on the way while my team focuses on the objectives
Bugs: one shot rockets, guard dog rover, 500kg, orbital rail canon, blitzer, grenade pistol and impact fire grenade
Bots: eagle air strike, balistic shield, railgun, orbital rail canon, pumeler, grenade pistol and impact grenade
Botslayer here:
My loadout is
Scorcher/countersniper primary
Grenade pistol secondary
Stun nade
Strategems are:
Spear
Autocannon sentry
Eagle airstrike/500
Rail cannon strike
This build aims to support a more long range building based destruction while also flexing as someone who takes out key target enemies as swiftly as possible. Helps as a quick play loadout if you're looking to make sure you all complete the mission and fix whatever mess your Randoms have started
Any tips on using the Spear? The lock on is very finnicky as I'm sure others feel the same.
@FrostyHots the lock on is based on your visual picture of the thing you're trying to shoot, make sure you can see the bottom of what you're trying to target and also thin things can block you like fences. However because the spears targeting is so precise, it means you can get away with as little as a thin sliver of the top and bottom of a fabricator in order to target the object and fire. Also the triangle that appears is like a game of hot and cold, the closer it gets to locking on, the closer you are to the right spot for targeting the building. Also height is your friend, it kinda tricks the system into thinking you can see the top and bottom. Last thing I'll say, moving targets are obviously harder so bring stuns!
@@XplosvChknBrstsFTW Thank you for this breakdown as I'll keep this in mind when utilizing the Spear.
Lvl 101 here, i been where you were on loadouts. I have played with cannon sentries or dual mortar and i have found out the basiscs still better
Have an eagle airstrike, orbital strike, an auto cannon and a wide area cleaner (usually i do 380)
On the last one is best used to throw it on the middle of a 5 or 10 hole nest or the the edge of an objective /exfil
With bugs I'm typically running HMG and act as support by taking out larger boys like the Hive Guard or Brood Commanders. Pummeler to control Hunters and Stalkers. Cluster Bomb for some crowd control or 110s for Bile Titans. Rail cannon also for chargers and BTs though I try to prioritize BTs with it if I have 110s. Supply Backpack to deal with the abysmal ammo count of the HMG but the way I use it I don't necessarily need the backpack so sometimes I'll just run 110s and Cluster. Grenade Pistol for bug holes and either impact incendiary or stuns. If I'm feeling spicy I'll replace the HMG with the Flamethrower.
Bots it's typically an autocannon, Railcannon or laser orbital, cluster, stuns, airburst orbital and the Pummeler still. Sometimes, rarely, I'll run Scorcher and EATs instead of the autocannon.
I like this loadout, this is a unique one man army one. Especially utilizing your Pummeler and HMG. Thank you for sharing this.
My bug loadout (outside of the 15 min missions) is incendiary breaker, grenade pistol, incendiary pistol, flamethrower, junp pack, tesla tower (for breaches and clearing nests before closing holes) and autocannon sentry (for bile titans or if there's too many chargers to confortably roast)
You should try the ammo backpack alongside the flamethrower. It basicly gives you an unlimited supply of gas canisters for the flamethrower
Do you find this more effective versus using the resupply cycle time? I spam the hell out of my flamethrower and typically am able to cycle out the resupply. Do you go lone survivor mode with your flamethrower? Let me know your thoughts!
have you thought of trying out this loadout?
the BIG BOOM:
Stratagems:
- 380mm barrage
- walking barrage
- 120mm barrage
- 500kg bomb
weapons:
-Eruptor
-senator
-impact grenade
playstyle:
Drop all stratagems in a nest/outposts and enjoy the boom, or just use them one at a time to space out the stratagems
Now that you brought it up, I'm definitely going to try this build. So I can go out with a BANG :D
Best Allrounder setup for me: 500kg, Orbital Railgun Strike, Shield backpack and flamethrower. Nothing will stop you
Atomaton diver here, m6 go-to load out is autocannon for pretty much everything, even fabricators with practice. Airstrike, for croud control and quick base destruction. Precision orbital, typically tanks and hulks but croud control in a pinch. I find it better to use it over rail cannon due to the short cool down and it having a blast radius. And finally 120mm for heavy bases and secondary objectives. 120mm for 4-6, I'll swap for 280mm for 7-9. Weapons are sycle for quick horde removal and CQC, vindicator for oh shit moments, and impacts because impacts. Sorry for the rant.
No need to be sorry! I enjoy reading these as much as others do. It gives us a better understanding of how people play/approach the game. Thank you for your comment!
I'm the supportive fire, auto Cannon, auto cannon turret, Gatling turret, final can be machine gun turret, deployment shield, missile turret or any minefield. My focus is to take out fabricators/bug holes before engagement and put down powerful turrets to deal with infantry or heavy units.
Anything to help my teams engagement easier.
Generally, when it comes to higher difficulty (8 or 9) you’re better off running a generalist build that can quickly finish objectives due to the sheer low reinforcement timer. Although, it might just be me cause I mainly play with randoms.
My Independence build better from bots bots is: Medic armor (for survivability and still be maneuverable) Sickle, senetor and impacts. Quasar/ railgun, jump pack/shield pack eagle airstrike and 500kg
I like using the new SMG with the Grenade pistol, and stun grenades
My stratagems: Ammo Pack with LMG, Anti-Sniper, Auto Canon sentry, Rocket Sentry, EMS Mortars, Reg. Mortars, HMG emplacements, Orbital Rail Cannon, Eagle 110 Airstrike, Eagle Airstrike, Orbital Airburst strike
And I use light armor with the grenades passive, specially the one from the Demolition warbond
I guess I’m a support player covering all roll’s depending on what my team mates have on stratagems but also as a minor backup when downed or needed
I always go with the Ammo pack with LMG and Auto cannon sentry and my last stratagem to be either of the others in the list above. But it changes depending if my team needs more crowd support or Heavy hitting stuff, but it also depends on the mission for me
I choose light armor too with the grenades passive because I find it easier for me to survive with more stamina and using stun grenades help a ton and more of it will benefit me, and for lethal explosives for Fabricators and bug holes I got the grenade pistol. The new SMG also helps me a ton because of its very low recoil along side it’s concussion rounds for medium armored enemies
I like to be well rounded for every scenario which is why my play style is very Jack of all trades and master of none, and it also helps by using more precise stratagems for myself to kill my team mates LESS so we can finish the mission with a full 100%
Thank you for your break down of your build. I wouldn't have considered a playstyle like this especially when utilizing the Pummeler. I need to run the light armor variant more because in my guys, I can hear my character breathing extra hard in that medium armor LOL
Here is a lofoud i can absolutely recommend for everyone:
Napalm
Toxic Gas
Quasar Cannon
Resupply Pack
Primary: Incendiary Breaker
Secondary: Grenade Pistol
Grenade: Stun Grenade
Jack of all Trades, master of none. Quasar to deal with Chargers and Bile Titans. Just spam the Breaker into bug breaches and small patrols and you will consistently get killstreaks of 40+. It made me enjoy the game again
On bot I either run: pummler, grenade pistol, stun grenade/ ballistic shield, laser cannon, last two are flex slots for whatever.
OR either of the Dilly’s, nade pistol, stun grenade/supply pack, EAT, flex slots (Any armor with fortified)
For bugs: “call the exterminator” incendiary breaker or blitzer, grenade pistol, incendiary impact/ flamer, supply pack or jump pack , toxic gas, flex slot (Any Engineer armor)
looooOOoooved this!
im a jack of all trades or a lone survivor myself..
My typical go to is the Sickle, Stuns Grenades, Grenade Pistol. Im a fan of things that go boom so my strats are -
Auto Cannon, EATS, 500kg and a 120 for that perfect breach or bug nest
I see this and will give it a shot once I get home from work. I can tell you now I use a build similar and it's really good especially in pubs because it covers all types of situations.
is there a way to know what enemy groups we're going to face before going in? Sometimes it's Spewers, Stalkers, or flying hellspawn. The latter two especially, would call for using different loadouts. It's frustrating when the loadouts are mismatched to enemy types.
I don't believe so, but it would be a cool feature to have ship module or something give intel like that.
Hey again. I decided to update my builds because I wanted more flash lol. I still stand by old build but these are my current and this time both vs bots and bugs is a bit different now.
VS BUGS
Armour: light armour with engineering skill
Eruptor
Adven. Pistol
Thermite Grenades
Booster: full ammo one (cant remember name 😂)
Stratagems:
Stalwart
Supply backpack
Rail cannon strike
Eagle air strike
VS BOTS:
Armour: Heavy (either fortified or med skill, if you rather med or heavy then I recommend engineering skill)
Breaker
Grenade Pistol
Thermites
Booster: stamina
Stratagems:
Machine Gun
Supply backpack
Rail cannon strike
Eagle airstrike (or O.laser)
For bots allows me bit of freedom to get closer, control as much as I can and Thermite or rail strike bigger targets. Supply pack keeps me alive with more Stim and more Grenades.
For bugs speed here and control. Speed to place more thermites and create better gaps so I can control smaller bugs. Eruptor helps with med size bugs and with thermites takes down chargers fast to save my stratagems for control on field. I also found following what I call the ninja in group and supporting him works really well here. Also the Eruptor is fun to used once I got used to it.
I love having two different sets now. Used ww could save load outs so I don't have to keep changing armours and gear around all the time 😂. I added boosters in there because without stamina the heavy armour dont feel right also we don't talk about boosters much in our builds lol.
Welcome back! Thanks for sharing your updated loadout. How many Thermites does it take on Chargers? I've been meaning to try those out more.
@@FrostyHots 2 or 3 to head will soften and cause it to bleed. You can either shoot it in butt to finish or if you got time or just want too 4 to 6 to kill it. Sometimes it happens in 5. Or if you did some damage to it first then 3 or 4 could kill it. If you got good aim you be able to take it out very fast and save your stratagems for bigger targets
Sometimes with 1 shot with eruptor after 2 or 3 Grenades can kill it
@@FrostyHots if you like more details I discover the parts best to throw them at from a video here on RUclips. Dont know how you feel about me putting here RUclipsr name or link to video but after I watch it I went to try my self and been hooked.
I'm a lone survivor player because most of the time I die to stupidity more then I did to the enemy. I clear 50-60% of the map most of the time with 0-1 deaths. I ran light armor, shield pack, duff duff, grenade pistol, impacts, eagle air, and 500.
You lone survivors are my heroes. While I'm lost in the sauce fighting, I get to see the nice +10 or +100 super credits. Like keeping going!
Pyro, Demoman, Scout/Sniper/Spy, Engineer, Heavy, and Medic.
Against the bot (not effective, but fun for difficulty 7, maybe 8-9 but I have skill issue). Though it isn't a difference maker, you are still going to dish out some fairly desirable results if you do it right.
The Recoiless Rifle paired with the Expendable AT makes a fun duck hunting combo. With this, your primary task is to make sure that you shoot down as many dropships as possible. Another thing with RR + EAT is that it trivializes hulks (and factory striders to an extent).
Lastly (and only use this as a last ditch trick), with the amount of AT shots you're given between the 2 weapons, you could do a "F*ck you in particular" move and take out a handful of heavy/rocket devastator with 1 well placed shot from close to medium range.
You could use the quasar, and save yourself a bagpack slot, but RR and EAT is a cooler pair than QC and EAT.
I had a class I played with the old Eruptor. Called it the Picker. I was basically decent CC with the ability to quickly drop a medium threat ASAP with the shrapnel. 3 bile Spewers? Now its 2. Group of Devastators? Now 1 or two are dead at max range. REALLY miss my hit n run style.
I miss the old Eruptor in all honesty. Thanks for your comment!
Rail cannon eagle strike, q-cannon ,shield pac for bots ,rover for bugs
Sickle
Big iron
Impact nads
Servo armor in medium
My fav horde breaker build is orbital EMS and Airburst rocket combo vs bugs. I run Orbital Rail and EAT to augment for heavies.
I'm curious to see how would an orbital EMS + Orbital precision do with this combo? Would you get more kills/ heavier Terminids killed with that big combo? Thanks for sharing as well!
@@FrostyHots it would very likely work but the groups I’m in don’t seem to lack for dealing with heavies so much it seems. Orbital EMS has the added side effect of telling my allies to GTFO without killing then in uncoordinated groups as well so I have a clear shot for Airburst it’s really fun. I spam EAT and Orbital rail to do my part with heavies, I almost never feel useless.
Astrological zodiac sign: ✋🛑
Helldivers 2 playstyle: 🦅✅
I fight on both fronts with firstly the new stun SMG combined with the ballistic shield and Qasar. Typically run a 500kg with the eagle airstrike. I feel as though I am protected enough to deal with any issue, while also singling out any small/medium threats so either I can get a headshot or my team can blast them. I can handle chargers and hulks if I get behind them but if not I’ve got the qasar to blast them in the mouth piece
I've yet to run the ballistic shield against bugs. I'm assuming that's what you're doing here right? If so, what's the interaction like from the shield against bugs. Does it tank Spewers acid and tank melee hits?
@@FrostyHots it doesn’t tank spewed acid unfortunately but it definitely lasts longer than the shield generator and helps with hunters who jump in your face I think but I’ve actually been running a jump pack a lot more recently!
@@blakewretched Thanks for letting me know, because I could see myself sitting in front of Bile Spewers like Cpt. America and then dying instantly LOL
Automaton I use Laser cannon for literally everything mortar for area control ballistic shield for blocking and smoke strike to escape them
Dude, you need to kill chargers with the flamethrower by aiming for one of its legs. It pretty much melts them in 2 seconds. Why is everybody still aiming for the head?
I was thinking about making sure the flame AoE was hitting both of the legs. So it looks like I'm hitting center mass (head) when my objective was both legs. So it's better to target just one of the legs? Good to know if so.
@@FrostyHots yeah it's better to aim at one leg. Booth legs have different health pools
@@YaBoiFetz Thanks for the tip there because I didn't think about body parts with those individual health on each body party which would equal a kill. Thanks again!
@@FrostyHots No problem. Try it out. Greets from Germany
For bots, I enjoy being able to take out large enemies and clusters of enemies quickly. I run the auto cannon for general use, eagle airstrike for taking out bases or large groups of enemies, 110mm rocket pods (absolutely amazing for tanks and cannon turrets) and my final spot is flexible: if I want to be stealthier I go 380 or Laser to take out bot drops and large bases, if I want to have a more head on approach I go 500kg or Precision strike
I guess my playstyle is similar to the hybrid and survivor, I tend to solo most things so I try to base my loadout on being able to at least deal with every potential enemy. For bugs I’d go I.breaker, g.piston, I.impact, scout armour, quasar, jetpack, airstrike/cluster, gas/railcannon. For bots I go dominator, senator/g.pistol, stun/impact, scout armour, AMR/laser cannon, jetpack, airstrike, orbital laser/railcannon
Thanks for commenting and sharing your loadouts/ playstyles
Quesion: does fire DoT stack ? Like fire damage on incendiary breaker, flamethrower, incendiary grenade, incendiary eagle air strike, etc
That's a good question, I would see to test this out to get see if that works. My initial thoughts would be no because I have used the Napalm Strike and Napalm incendiary together. Which I didn't see anything die quicker, but I certainly could be wrong as well.
In short, because of the hordes of enemys I´m running out of ammo with the Sickle even on cold planets. If you play in random groups often someone else calls down the resupply and most likely on the opposite side of the map. More mags please AH.
Once I unlock it, I will switch to a grenade pistol, at least try it and G-13 Incendiary Impact.
Redeemer on semi auto
Blitzer
G10 Incediary
Quasar
Shield generator
Napalm airstrike
Gatling sentry
I've noticed for myself when using the Sickle, I am having to micro a bit more of my loadout because of the said reason. I still use it and am now taking the Sickle more on missions that are spawning an extreme amount of Chaff "Nuking Nursery". Thanks for sharing your laodout!
My classic bot build : Autocannon,eagle air strike,orbital laser,orbital precision strike
bot diver here. A phenomenal loadout I love using is defender or pummeler smg with the ballistic shield, grenades pistol, stuns and laser cannon. It can take out anything in reasonable amounts of time including factory striders and gunships.
The ballistic shield is actually quite fun, I feel invincible out there.
Fire Shotgun, Quasar, Laser Drone, Nade Pistol, Stun Nades, 500 kg, Railcannon, with any Light armor you want doesn't rly matter 2+ Stims or Nades whatever. I often have more kills as my other teammates combined.
For Bots... :D screw bots they are boring and annoying. AMR kills every bot so who cares.
Hybrid ≈ Lone wolf
When you have no one to rely on you have to be able to do everything yourself and have a way to efficiently kill every type of enemy. There is no way Im talking EATs if Im always aeay from my team, I'll take flamethrower because it can kill everything except bile titans and 500kg or precision for bile titans. Incendiary shotgun for primary because its the best, stun grenade to stun chargers and granade pistol for bugholes.
For automatons I use AMR/Railgun/Autocannon for hulks, walkers and devastators, often its railgun because its THE BEST against these three types of enemies, precision strike for tanks and objectives, Commando to destroy bases without engaging in combat
I tend to run the ark shoot gun cos it can stager and push back so good for spewers coz the stagger stops them from well spewing as for a side arm grenade pistol for bug holes and containers and as a grenade the stun as for starts orbital gass and napom strike both can close holes and brake open containers then supply back pack and flamethrower yes this is a cc build it can handle all but titans I also use medic armor so I can be more risky and survive more like for example calling a gass right on me coz there's so much small shit or running through fire with no real risk its good enough to run on helldive and kick ass uts best at beaches throw a gass on it and most stuff will die then napom once or twice and unless it's a charger or titan it will die this also means you make for a grate fall back for teammates being chased buy everything
My problem with super specialised builds is that you always have to rely on your teammates. So your team has to play in close proximity to each other all the time. Which is difficult with randos.
Why does the stalwart have no hitmarkers🙃 i just dont get it
I over think when choosing my loadout, only run stealth, and my match crashes all the time.....hello 👋 🤣
i like to go solo stealth and just use precision to grab objectives and samples
I am a stealth/sniper build.
I go into toaster camps and deactivate/destroy objectives without support from my team or even being detected.
"You guys get the west side of the map, ill get the east side... dont follow me."
My build:
Space Laser
Eagle smoke
Anti Material Rifle
Armor with stealth boost
Oh, you got a splinter cell action going on here.
I've found that once you learn how to use the Eagle Airburst, it is an indispensable part of any loadout.
Learn, as in, not blow up your entire team on deploy.
Honestly pairing the grenade pistol with stuns is great for any load out
It's hard to pass up that's for sure. Thanks for commenting!
I need to find a new build that can take down both heavy armor and horde cause the player I’m getting constantly screw the team.
If you want crowd control there is only one option, 4 sentry guns and be smart about your placement. Keep them far outside of the action to prevent bots and bugs from targeting them and they all have extremely long range. Ill average 200 to 400 kills for bots and 500+ for bugs.
I need to give this a go because I've been very hesitant running a lot of sentries. But reflecting, that's because of my placement issues.
@@FrostyHots placement is key, up high behind the group is best or far off to the sides if on level ground. Keeping yourself or your teammates closer to the action will prevent bots and bugs from destroying them. As for a support weapons there is usually 1 teammate who will drop you one or just grab an abandoned one from someone's dead body. I have the most fun running sentries as long as your teammates can handle tanks, turrets, hulks and chargers although a well placed auto cannon or rocket sentry will do some work on any of them. Gunship fabricator? The the auto cannon says I'll blow up every gunship in the sky.
Hey hope everything good. I was wondering if you going to do another video like this for the last patch. I know my builds ended up changing.
That's a great point. Looking over this, I can see different guns being used now and stratagems. Let me piece some things together and we will get it out soon!
@@FrostyHots awesome! Even though I love this patch it sadden me because I really enjoy my play style but its become harder because it feels like at times like bug breaches and bot drops are endless. Making it harder even with supply back to keep up my thermites. Like we being fighting 5 to 6 chargers. No way I can keep resupplying with just backpack. I found myself calling down supply box mainly for me. When you bring out new video I will post my builds becauae I currently still pondering them. They working so far just want to keep playing with it to be sure but I will say both builds for bots and bugs are completely different from what I had before. Cant wait to see new video I may get new ideas
@@wargandi7659 Absolutely, just know I will do my best to showcase different loadouts per the playstyles. But I will also make sure to bring up that you can mix and match xyz. So maybe I can share an idea or what not. I will tell you, I've found the flamethrower and stun grenade combo for me absolutely destroys the behemoth swarms.
@@FrostyHots oh I to notice how good that combo is now because I was playing with Grenades my self. I threw one stun and my fellow helldiver had flamethrower. When I saw this I just threw a second stun to keep it there till he kill it. Now I am keeping thermites on bug build I just feel naked but on bots, stuns may be it.
me? i can be everything can kill anything by my own but doesnt i can do best on anything either the build is 1. Missile sentry 2. Gatling or Machine gun sentry 3. Recoiless rilfle 4. Napalm primary is Adjudicator sencondary is granade pistoll grenade is molotov
My current loadout is the HMG, Dominator, Grenade Pistol, stun grenade, supply pack, orbital precision and orbital cluster
I sometimes swap the Dominator for the Pummeler (which is generally the better option) for its stun and crowd control but dying is a pain when you drop far from your weapon and can’t deal with mediums. Or I’ll use the blitzer.
This allows me to deal with Chaf fairly effectively and bile titans.
Against bots this loadout is a breeze. Eagle stratagems are definitely better but I prefer the orbitals.
I need more loadouts for bots as I'm primarily play Terminids. I've tried out the pummeler for Bots and enjoyed the staggering. What're your variations to the HMG?
@@FrostyHots for the HMG either the Pummeler, Dominator or the scorcher are the best options vs bots, scorcher also allows you to take out gun ships which is the only enemy you’ll struggle with using HMG
If it’s a 3 stratagem mission then take air strike, if you have all stratagems then take either of the following, air strike, orbital laser, 320mm barrage, precision strike, orbital cluster, 110 rocket pods
The best loadout vs bots though would be either of the primaries I mentioned or the counter sniper or plasma punisher with either the quasar, railgun, anti material rifle or EATS, always bring stuns for hulks and grenade pistol for striders
@@mischief2223 Thanks for your break down, this is really good information.
i am jack of all traits master of all. as armor the one that comes with the gasmask becouse its stylish and granade spam. i use a flametrower as my primary and the punisher shotgun as my seconday. for my second secondary i use the granade pistol becouse extra granades. i use the eagle strike for crowds and if my 500kg is on cooldown. im out of ammo or becouse im being overwealmed by hunters and 500 kg if bile titans. i use the guard dog for the things behind me and becouse i dont always always get everything. this loadout only works on bugs and not on bots. i find it to work great against everything and aspecially when your alone. it may not take aim but it takes strategic planning so you dont zone yourself off with the flame trower. one tip for this loadout. start lauching maniacly in your mike when you start spraying a bug breach. so may democracy guide your strategems to the holes and your finger to the trigger
TIL u can dive to get rid of fire???!!! Thx for that tip. Could have used that 2 mos. Ago. Lol
Haha, better late than never!
Completely sleeping on the blitzer. It can crowd control the majority of enemies by itself including stalkers. Paired with a rover, you only need to worry about chargers and titans