Fender Super Champ X2 vs 68 Princeton RI.
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I bought a Fender super champ xd at a pawn shop the other day and after these reviews i'm glad I did ! I just unplug the speaker in the back and use my Mesa 4x12 cab with V30s and its so crisp and beautiful its amazing. It truly is a swiss army knife.
Sounds cool. Check out the Cannabis Rex speaker upgrade comparison. Suprising.
Does your super champ play well at low volumes? I want to get it for my apartment but am worried it’ll be too loud.
@@ren1818ren Ya it's great
@@bakerXderek thank you so much!
Phil I can't thank you Enough for all your Knowledge and Patience , and most of all talent and being just a Great Guy !!!
I was told by fender that in channel 1 (non modeling channel) the preamp tube is one half of the tube a phase inverter, the other half is used for preamp. The rest of the preamp gain is solid state, not modeling. This is common in many high end amps, although they use more tubes in the preamp gain stages. Paul Rivera uses solid state combined with tubes in the gain stages of some of his amp designs. The most famous was Alexander Dumble who's use of solid state preamp gain stages, in his hotrodding of fender amps is what many covet to this day.
Just picked up an X2 combo after watching this and confirming with a couple of other online vids. Really impressed so far,
one thing to note - it is definitely worth connecting your PC or Mac to the Amp via the USB cable, the software is really easy to use and provides you with access to a 'Mids' control knob which the amp doesn't have. It was already sounding pretty great for the size but having this extra control provides even more tone control.
Couldn't you also use a mids pedal, like the colour box or haunting mids the JHS company makes, and boost your mids without the use of a computer?
That is very interesting. I have the xd model. No USB,but it is great sound still
this was an excellent comparison video. i love how helpful these are for consumers
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Best reviews around! No bullshiting around and acting like 15 year olds. Just to the point!
Aaron Mifsud i suspect he's a 15 year old lol
I just bought a Super Champ X2 . It doesn't sound as "tubey" as the Princeton,but it can definitely hold its own at a bar gig. Lol
Not sounding tube like was my primary concern. I was looking to cheap out and get this over a super sonic. Looks like I might need to reconsider.
This is EASY STEVIE my friends. The Princeton sounds better. But, the SUPER is funner to play. AND isn't that why we play.....for FUN
That super champ is a steal for the price. Been jamming on one for 6 or 7 years. Love it.
I now own both of these amps as well. The x2 is fun to just mess around with and not worry about a bunch of pedals, but you are right. That Princeton just has that warm, rich Fender tube tone. So good.
I Agree. you can really hear the difference.
I have a Super Champ X2 and love it. It's perfect for practice at home without pissing off the neighbors.
I mounted my superchamp amp in a 1-12 fender champion 40 enclosure..im impressed....its a bit larger but huge difference in sound..happy me
Its refreshing to see a guitarist who's not perpetually shredding....What is the PRS model used ?
It says Mira right on the headstock truss rod cover,,, lol
@@markp4818 Whoa sick burn man.
Great video comparison, thx! I think your correct when assuming the larger cab on the Princeton as improving the overall sound. I heard/read that many folks are changing out the speaker to "upgrade the X2..we're never satisfied lol. I'm a X2 head owner. I've had it a month and use it with a 1x12 and 4x12 vintage Yamaha cab (41 years old)...sounds great. Now the X2 does have two '65 Princeton settings. It would be interesting to compare those with the real thing. Again, thanks and pray for me as I might try out the fuse software today (I'm terribly techno-challenged). Keep on strumming!
while the princeton sounds better, its around 3x the price. you could could get a champ, a pedal, and a guitar for the price of the princeton.
I know it is kinda crazy. Thank you for posting,
agreed, is the princeton 3x better? Im not so sure... its certainly not as versatile.
What we cannot be sure of from a video is how useable the volume control is on each amp. I have the Super Champ XD, love it. Would like the Princeton but do not want the price tag, size and weight...and risk that it may be too loud. I often see comments that some amps (even 10W/5W) are too loud/uncontrollable. I can safely say the SCXD is very controllable.
@@SaxJockey that was THE comment. It's Important for home players like myself. I cannot play that loud and I need to be able to control it.
Thanks!
@@GuitarLover The SCXD (15W) is a GREAT amp for home use (my use), it also has a line out to an external PA system (or mic'd for more volume). You can get a good tone at comfortable volumes, or go crazy and 'feel the volume' (ringing in the ears). They can be found for as little as £150/€175/US$200 (plus carriage), or a little more with optional two mode footswitch (select CH1/CH2, select Effect ON/OFF). The F/S is VERY useful. Apart from the on-board amp models (CH2) and effects, the clean channel (CH1) takes pedals very well. So you have a very capable modelling amp and a pedal freindly clean amp. I am sceptical of very low wattage amp, I have a Fender Champ 600 (5W), and while the cleans are nice, I cannot get a decent volume from it. I would need to be firmly convinced before I consider buying a 1W amp, or 1/4W amp!
the fender x2 is awesome, I have 4 of these and run 2 in stereo, you get a big sound, but push it too loud or heavy bass and the speaker will flub out on the combo, a replacement speaker like a celestion gold of canabis rex takes care of that.Also, all 4 of my amps had cabinet buzz, but just tighten the handle screws and the screws on the sides and that takes care of it,.plus I want the tube amp sound but dont want to have to deal with or replace 10-11 tubes etc.....3 tubes I can handle lol
I put a Celestion 10-30. What a difference. Downsized from a Hot Rod. Don’t feel bad at all.
Thanks for all your great reviews and comments! I am a 60-ish guitar player who still learns something new each video. I mainly play at home with friends and have sought out quiet amps with great tone. I now use a Mesa Boogie Mark 5:25 head and MB 1x12 cab + Tone Tubby 1x10 cab with alnico red (lighter for hauling around). This amp has spoiled me and I have sold all others (Supersonic 22, Blues Jr., Blues Cube Stage, Vox AC15...) because they were too loud or just didn't have the sound. I love good warm clean tones.
My question is - which small head to buy for use by visiting guitarists and as an alternative. I have been looking at the Fender Super Champ X2 and the Blackstar 1 and 5 watt models? I will use it through either a MB or Fender 1x12 cab. I have lots of pedals. My main goals are usually tone and home volume levels.
This Princeton with the TubeScreamer !!! OMG ! 05:09
Great video, even in 2019. :) That X2 is amazing value for money, and with an upgraded speaker...well, you just have to hear it. Fortunately, there are some great videos on youtube demonstrating that. I'm waiting to hear from a guy who hopefully still has one local in excellent condition for between $200 (what I want to pay) and $250 (what he is asking--very fairly, I might add). Hoping for the best.
And as others have said, your videos are so helpful. Thanks!
The Super Champ X2 with a Ragin Cajun darn hard to beat. I have used many amps over the years and this combo is my go-to for about every occasion... playing live, mic'd through the house, using with a redbox or palmer DI, and in recording. It takes pedals very well on either the valve-only channel or the sims side (especially voice #8 - 65 Twin). It has much more versatility over the princeton and other one trick re-issue amps that I've owned (that all cost and weigh a lot more). The X2 is a winner in my book.
How much does the Ragin Cagin change the low end, assuming it does... more punch, tighter maybe? Also, anything else that is an improvement over the stock speaker?
Thomas Halbert the RC slightly diminishes the highs but creates a much fuller and articulate tone; it also DRASTICALLY raises the volume making it useful even for gigging. ( the only thing is now when I’m just practicing in my house I can’t turn it past 3 without it blaring )
I own an vintage '68 Princeton Reverb. It is in a different dimension. However, I have also owned the Super Champ XD, which I upgraded the speaker to an Eminence, added a Weber beam blocker and upgraded the tubes (JJ's). It was a fantastic amp. The line out sounded so good it was worth the amp itself. I ended up selling it to a close friend of mine dirt cheap because I wanted him to have great tone as well. How I miss that little amp!
Like your video. I bought the X2 combo used for 175 and love it. Just put in a Canabus Rex and sounds amazing.
The amp comparison definitely helps, thankyou.
I own an X2, it is a great amp. The crucial thing missing from it though is a headphone out! It's great for recording though. Thanks for doing the comparison!
Dude I feel so much smarter and more well informed after watching your videos. You're probably the best guitar guy on RUclips, definitely among the best.
Yea dude when it comes to guitar knowledge, you're definitely the man, lessons, gotta go with Marty. Do u guys know each other/work together for ideas, etc?
I expected the Princeton to sound much better than the Champ, but it didn't, not to my ears. It would be a great practice amp and probably for small venues.
I agree. .
Princeton with pedals did however.
The champ is still a tube amp at the end of the day
Of course princton sounds like the real deal and has that responsiveness that I always look for. But nothing wrong with the super champ
They are definitely different sounding amps, but they both sound great! I would bet that you could duplicate that Princeton with the Super Champ if you spend some time tweaking the software via usb. I’ve ordered a used Super Champ X2 head. Excited to try it out with a well tuned 112 cab.
For the Plexi Drive/Tube Screamer pedal part, you should've just looked up the amp settings, the whole point of them is to accurately model the Princeton Reverb in this case, so we would like to hear the overdrives with the real princeton vs modeled princeton to actually hear accurate differences..
Should've done another section with comparing with Channel 1 because Channel 1 is essentially supposed to be an accurate "blackface" circuit tone, which is basically Princeton Reverb tone once again.
Just bought that Super Champ from ya. You are quite the salesman. Well done.
I have the Champ X2 and for me is a fantastic amp with all the effects and presets, am a begginer with tube amps and I love the sound that makes for the price, Saludos!!! from Mexico.
Bought Super Champ XD 2 days ago for 280€. Got custom paisley cabinet to repack it to 12” variant. Gonna make comparison between stock 10” speaker and 12” Jensen P12R Alnico Vintage. 😊
Great video as always. 😊👍🏼
Phillip, thanks for the review. Curious how you would rate the X2's Marshally tones to the DSL15. Thanks and keep up the great work.
I had a DSL15C it is a beast. traded that for DSL40CR for Marshall tones. Can't get rid of the Super Champ X2. I upgraded the speaker to Cannabus Rex 10" - Huge, wider tones and maintains character of the fender tone. I hit it with a reverb pedal and amazing. I would bet you could come close to the Marshall with the X2...
Pretty good comparison of two very different amps. I have an X2 and I installed a Celestion Gold speaker (MAJOR upgrade to the sound quality) although the stock speaker is decent. I love the Princeton Reverb amps. Just didn't want to fork out the cash. Looking for one at a reasonable price (if that exists). If your budget is tight then X2 all day long. It's a quality amp with great tone and plenty of volume, especially if you mic it.
true but the Princeton sounds way better any Princeton I own both
Thanks for this, great comparison.
I own the x2 head and 112 cab I always use channel 1 that's just a plain fender tube amp. When u switch to channel 2 its cool for home to play through different kinds of amps without having to buy them. It's great for home practice. U can plug it in and change all the preset amp models and add pedals and rack modulation. I mostly just use channel 1 I believe it's all tube clean fender me use pedal effects. I really like it. It also comes stock with groove tubes. It is the best sounding amp with all the effects that's been be ever played. Not as good as an amp that just does one thing. But if you can't afford 10 different amps and want a tube amp. This is the one for u.
Great video! I found the Super Champ struggled to keep up with our drummer! The Princeton had some balls! Once again I find both of these amps could use some upgrading that would make them better in more situations, by different players. (A Mid Tone pot for example.) Changing the speakers really improved the sounds!
I've got the Vibro Champ XD and feel the same way you do about your XD. Incredible amp for noodling around. I have a Egnator Tweeker 15 head that sits on top and I find I use the Egnator when I'm practicing with my pedal board to prep for my church worship team, but use the XD when I just want to unwind and have fun for 20 minutes.
One thing I've noticed about the hybrids that use actual power tubes on the back side seem to sound very much more tube-like than the hybrids that have a 12AX7 that goes into a solid state amp. I think the Peavey Heritage had the power tubes on the tail end as well and it sounded killer (and was loud as _____).
both vibrochamp and superchamp XD sound exactly the same, much better than the newer x2
I've for a 65 PRRI (western tolex with a 12"), the 68 Custom (added mid pot, some NOS tubes and Celeston 10" Gold), a Princeston Recording, and a 1979 Princeston Reverb. I recently got a SCX2 off FB Classifieds for $120.00. After changing the speaker (with a Jensen 10" Falcon I had) it was a drastic improvement. I think it works well with the smaller cabinet of the X2. I use the little X2 cleanish with reverb or tremolo. This is my 4th one (a head, another X2 combo and a XD, all gone), but I'll probably keep this one for a even more compact rig then my Princetons.
I'd like to see Fender come up with an updated version of the X2 since they quit supporting the Fuse software which will suck for X2 and Mustang owners in the near future.
Best video for the X2 I've seen on youtube! I am a happy X2 owner and, for the price range, it's the best one out there.
You gotta plug the super champ into your computer via usb....there you can adjust mids which makes a huge difference...Also you have custom effects everything from a reverse delay to plate reverbs to Compression and Fuzz...I have a Supro 1700 supreme (2x6v6+312ax7) and The Fender Super Champ x2 granted you can't beat an all tube vintage or R.I. amp. However I love my super champ so many tone options...great for recording also.
Tube "assigned to the power amp" is called the phase inverter and it dies drive the power tubes in a push-pull manner
Both sound really good.
The Princeton sounds fantastic!
I've been a keen proponent of the SCXD for a few years now, the X2 is thinner with a morre brittle treble section. As for solid state, you're mistook. It's a class AB all tube amp in channel 1 (which exploits the ax7 pre valve) whilst ch,2 is a solid-state modelling pre-amp into the 2x 6v6 power section. So ch.1, the clean channel, is all tube. Which is why I actually originally bought it (cheap all tube fender cleans at a discount) but in practice... after a while, that modelling is really good and warm, so, im nearly always in ch.2, which, id have never predicted.... Great show phillip, a happy uk subscriber
Channel 1 is a modelled sound, in fact it sounds just like channel 2 on voice number 4.
Superchamp XD is clearly better than X2, by the way.
Play a lot of Petty, Fleet, & other similar sounded music. Yes lots of oldies also. Super Champ x2 was a better sound for me. More affordable for a nonprofessional player.
I replaced the speaker in my x2 with an inexpensive Jensen mod 10/50 and it really opened this amp up.
The All Tube Fender Princeton Sounds Much Better. Rounder, Fuller & more Chimey. The little X2 is not bad for under $400.
Nice Demo. Im Thinking about getting a Princeton ? Either a 65 or 68. I need the Most Clean Headroom as I use Pedals for my Overdrive.
In July 2019, the Princeton RI is about a $899 and I just bought a SC X2 fsr (wine red tolex) w/ Celestion g10 speaker for $499. With my Fender MP tele my total spent on gear is $928.00 (caught a sale on the Guitar).
I considered the Princeton and a few others in the 500 - 1,100 range, but went for the SC X2 because of versatility, quality and looks. I am very happy with the quality and the sounds that I can get from the Super Champ.
I may upgrade to a '65 Deluxe Reverb at some point, but I feel like the Super Champ really is the future. Especially for those who want a good tube experience for classic sound and modeling for a little something extra in their playing.
That plexitone box is the tits! I need to find a schematic of that and make my own.
edit, awwwww shit there are a bunch out there... better get to the breadbox
I lilke the review and am interested in checking out the amp.
Eventually, I would probably get a better speaker for it, but this looks like it would suit my needs as a learner and one who is in love with the Fender sound. I also like the Gibson sound and players, but I tend to gravitate more to players from that are predominantly of the Fender or Marshall tradition - Hendrix, Clapton Beck and so on.
I actually liked Page's sound when he used a Tele in the early days.
The Princeton is amazing, but as you point out in the video, it has a price point. At this point I would rather put more money in good guitars for now. This seems to be a good combination of both worlds - tubes and solid state. I currenlty have a Vox Valvetronix, but the Fender sound - as mentioned- is what sounds better to my ears.
Thanks again for another honest and good quality review.
I like both very much, the old might be going away. With the Line 6 Pod thing and other folks that make great stuff like Kemper is it? That live profile thing. I love tube amp. I play some area Fairs and Art festivals. That is the only time I get to put the top down on my old Fender Black Face, it really moves some air. All winter I just enjoy looking at it. Love your videos dude!
68 princton sounds pretty better to
me
No shit, it's 3 times more expensive.
@@AdoreYouInAshXIi wanted to say the same thing 😅
I have the Camp X2 combo and I love it. My favorite amp. My friend listened to me play along with ZZ Top Foxy Lady and Pink Floyd RUclips "half stoned" and offered to sign me to his Hollywood booking agency.
I have a Mint Carvin X112 Hot Rod Mod but it's just too powerful to turn up. I'm sure it would sound fine in a sports stadium but its not practical for home use.
My solid state Mustang 1 is great but not practical to practice with a band. The Champ X2 sounds sooooo much better to me and will do everything the Mustang will do with the "Fuse" software. The Champ X2 presets sound so good I haven't had the need to adjust anything. I use the clean channel to run my pedals through.
In the video the Champ sounds a little tinny but just turn the bass up a notch or the treble down and mess with the gain a little and you will see the light.
Great video and review.
Thanks for another awesome comparison! I have a Super Champ XD, used mostly for low volume bedroom playing and I'm very pleased with it.
Same here, great amp, controllable volume (unlike a lot of other amps).
It's easier to find a breeding pair of Unicorns than it is to find someone that prefers a 68 Princeton reissue over a 65 Princeton reissue. The only time a 68 sounds any good to most people is when it's using pedals. Without pedals the common complaint is that they are not as clean as a 65 blackface, and that the sound is very muddy. The 68 also breaks up a lot quicker than the 65 as well.
I am that breeding pair of Unicorns.
And I know what I hear. I bought real 1968 Twin Reverb in 1969.
in about 1975 I had it modified.
The '68 Princeton has pretty much the same mods, And I do love it.
Unless it's a typo you are saying a twin reverb and a Princeton sound the same ? Interesting as they have different speakers, different tubes, different circuits, and different cabinets.
The new and old Princetons have different circuits [negative feed back designs] and speakers, and caps, and so on. They don't sound the same. The modern Princeton 68's sound muddy and break up way quicker than the originals ever did.
Your original 68 Twin Reverb I have no doubt would sound wonderful. Would you trade it for a reissue Princeton 68 though ? Personally, I'd stick with what you have.
The point is response. It isn;t muddy at all. Its beautiful.
The amp compared to a 65 model responds better. I don't need piercing treble. I can add that.
And the mods are the same ones that I had performed on the old Twin.
So the same difference between a normal Twin on 2 and my old one on two are apparent with this CPR on 2 compared to the 65 on 2.
I use less compression pedal with the tube rectifier.
So the difference is the same, and very very nice.
Thanks man. Straight talking, honest, well educated opinion from a fellow guitar geek. Lucky to have stumbled across your page
Add a Ragin Cagin for volume and bass increase to the X2
Hi, Phillip. Can you make a comparison of the Super Champ X2 with the new Vox AV amp? I believe they are both tube amps with modeling solid state pre-amp. That would be really usefull. Thanks.
alphajames33 so which one is better what do you think?
I own the AV30 and just picked up the Super Champ X2 today. I prefer the over all sound of the Vox better the effects are not as good. With the Vox the effects stay the same between both channels and it doesn't have Tremolo. ( which is the main reason I went on the market for a new amp.)
Interesting demo Phil. The earlier Super Champ XD sounds great too. An inexpensive EQ pedal in front can provide more presence and transforms the sound. Expect the EQ settings are adjustable within the X2 (Fender Fuse software).
The princeton definitely sounds better but for the $ the super champ is not bad at all .Great reviews always Phillip no bull just straight to the point.
The difference in speaker of the super champ is something easily rectified with a 10" celestion vintage or step up $100.00 to the Rajun Cajun edition of the super champ X2 it is a powder blue colored outer shell and comes with the eminence rajun cajun speaker. Is it worth the 100.00 increase in price? Well not really, seeing how you can buy the speaker for 80.00 and install it yourself. But here's the thing the Princeton uses the celestion Ten 30 speaker for that vintage tone and you can buy the Ten 30 on musician's friend for $35.00 which will give the Super Champ the same speaker voicing as in the princeton RI and then the comparison in voicing would be much closer between the two amps, or jump up the $99.00 price range and get the Celestion 30 Greenback and tap into that early 70's sound either way you go, you are still over 450 dollars less than the Princeton and have the convenience of the onboard digital effects making the Super Champ X2 a much more economical choice. Especially if you do not already own a collection of effects pedals to back up the Princeton. Just My Opinion take it for what you will.
I find the super champ to sound better, I bought one myself about 3 years ago. I actually went in to buy a twin reverb BC I love the sound but I only play at home and I never really thought about how powerful the dynamic punch is from the twin and even the deluxe. At the time the x2 was pretty new and the guy suggested I try it BC of the size and he mentioned the tonal variation as well, I told him I only wanted tubes and he responded by saying that it was a tube amp and not just a shitty gimmicky practice modeler and he told me "trust me just try it ". Man, I sat there and immediately became engrossed in the amp. After about 25 minutes of messing around and a few compliments on the sound from other customers I left with it and still to this day I'm happy with it. IMO Fender could actually charged more for this amp and EASILY gotten it, especially compared to what else is out there doing similar things with the lower wattages and same or less amount of tubes. If Blackstar and Vht and Bugera are getting $300-$450 I think Fender coulda did the x2 for $550-650 and easily be worth it, hell I wouldn't have minded compared to those other brands. Anyway thanks for the demo it was done very nicely and straight to the point. Have fun and be well.
Nice video. The X2 can’t duplicate the Princeton’s tone but it is still a great sounding little amp. I like it better than a Blues Jr. What is absolutely vital is to replace the stock made in China speaker with virtually anything else. I put a Weber CTC10 in mine and it sounds incredible. The bassman voice and, of all things, the jazzmaster voice are as good a clean tone as you’ll find in amps costing 3x as much. And certain voices, set to the edge of break up, take pedals incredibly well. The X2 is an amp tailor made for a tone hunter / fiddler on a budget! Just swap that speaker asap!
Ordered a Jensen Blackbird 10-40 10-inch 40-watt to put in the x2 lol
Coming in on Tuesday....
Wl see how it sounds with the speaker priced as much as amp 😊
Fender super champ x2 for me!.
I Would have wished you would have used the same exact pedals on both amps to be able to A B them properly.Question, is the champ gigable?
+TheTruthseeker707 I use the X2 head with a 1X15 cab loaded w/Jensen.
Crank it to 8 and use it to play out. GREAT rig.
Bluto Miller thanx. But was wondering is the combo by itself is gigable?
+TheTruthseeker707 Never had a combo, just the head.
Bluto Miller thanx
I owned the X2 and did not like it. I sounds small / boxy lacking cabinet volume. I swapped the speaker for the celestion ten 30 used in the 68 princeton as it is not very expesive (39 €). It sounded rounder, fuller than the stock speaker but not impressive. I also did not like the digital amp emulation and it does not take pedals well, maybe because of the transistor input stage impedance. It's a different DC value than I measure on other Amps. Finally I sold it and got a Fender Vaporizer 2x10 combo and there was money left. I like it much much better. All tube, loud enough, much faster response to your picking and fuller sound. Kind regards
Thomas doesn't take pedals well? Really? Mine does :) channel one 🤘🏻
I love my Super Champ X2. While I think the onboard effects are weak, it takes pedals well and the amp model voices are a lot of fun and variety. $399 new but a steal when you can find one preowned for $250. And if you can find the older XD model you can pick those up around $200. If you are working your way up from solid state, I can't recommend any amp more than this
I have the XD, it's a great little amp. Agreed, the amp models provide good versatile/fun sounds. I manage fine with the on board reverb and delays, although the lack of tap tempo on the XD limits adjustment of delays (tremolo not so good). Yes, channel 1 takes pedals very well, I now mostly use that with my preferred pedals. I am storing a delay, reverb & tremolo pedal in case the on board effects become too limiting. I bought a mint XD used with optional two button footswitch - absolute bargain!
Hi phillip Love to see HT1R vs. 68 princeton in clean melody tone thank!!
Ever thought of doing a Guitar Speaker Shootout? For example, I use Celestions and Warehouse Guitar Speakers in my combos and cabs. Thank you.
The princeton sounds quite a bit better and is likely a great pedal platform. The champ x2 is probably good for lots of things but not truly good at any really. Digital stuff simply gets replaced and displace by other products very quickly.
Phillip, I’m really digging your videos and you helped me settle on a American Tele after years of not playing. Now I’m struggling with finding the right amp for entertaining myself. Looking at the HT1R vs the super champ x2, others? Thoughts? Also head or combo?
Cool review. The X2 looks like a great product. For my low volume home practice I use a Roland Microcube, because I got it for free in a trade a couple of years ago. If I didn't have that already, that X2 sounds like a winner
Attenuate to drive the Princeton! Another great video, thanks.
Phillip, you gotta plug this into your computer!
It's the only way to adjust the mids for the amplifier. It makes a huge difference in the sound. Most of the settings have the mids way down, it kinda kills the tone coming out of the amp. I have the head version also and couldn't believe the difference after adjusting the mids on all the channels. I ended up keeping it, instead of returning it.
+cruiserrider Yes, I am going to finally mess with that. I like this amp so much. It is fun and always sounds good.
+Phillip McKnight You won't regret it! You can set up the reverbs, delays, overdrives and all the other effects to your liking. This amp (head) into a 2x12 with Greenbacks=tonal heaven. I enjoy your channel, and the information you put out. Keep up the good work!
I haven't plugged my x2 into my computer yet either. Are there some pre-sets that will adjust the mids as you describe, or are you more or less on your own as far as fiddling with the settings? I see there are a bunch of saved presets, I guess I'm wondering if there's any you'd recommend for adjusting the mids. Thanks,
+Mark Bader I bought mine used, but when I plugged in and used editing software, most of the mids on channel 2 were right around 3. The eq setting for mids are adjustable for each of the 16 pre-sets. It's not a global midst setting across all presets.
I'll take a crack this weekend, thanks mate
Great job!
I spoke to soon, with the pedals, X2 shines beautiful!
Great Videos keep it up man
I went into my local GC last week. They had two Super Champ X2's, a new one and a used one. The used one had a Celestion G10R speaker. The used one just vibrated so nicely. I have a Super Champ XD, and now I have a Celestion G10R. 35 bucks on Ebay.
I play Chicago blues harmonica OR rhythm guitar through my X2 which I upgraded with a Rajun Cagin, it's a little monster with tons of versatility.
Nice information, Princeton 🙌
The only solid state amp that is scary close and fun is the mustang III v2 correcting the original setting you can hear a Princeton and has xlr outs that I plug into my Princeton to make it versatile . Just saying, nice video 👍
Thanks.....they sound similar. Yes the 68 all tube has more depth however I wonder what the X2 would sound like with a better speaker.
MoonGlow if anyone wants a cheaper tube amp, blues jr iii is the choice (no superchamp xd/x2)
MoonGlow , it sounds louder and "better" with the 75.00 rajun Cajun.. I guess it sounds great plugged into a 2x 12 also but I've never tried that..
Was gonna say the 68 sounded a bit fuller , but yeah depth works too... I know This video and comments are old but am just now looking to get the x2 and doing the RUclips review / vs / comparison rounds ... and seriously on this comparison to me the around triple the price of the 68 makes the x2 along with the plethora of options my choice ....I mean shoot some of the different comparison sounded almost exact , don’t get me wrong any time one was better sounding it was the 68 but not at that price differential and me not a pro or gigging musician
I like the Fender Super Xd. THey make a newer one sold at Sweetwater that's Red Wine colored and better speaker but $499.00
You are playing the heck out of that HSS guitar.
Who makes that?
The speaker also has a big influence on the sound of the amp, could be the champ sounding more like the princeton with the same celestion speaker...
Awesomeness. Love your stuff. Always detailed answers to most concerns. Thank you. I bought a new SCX2 combo $279 & a used head for $200. l had a 1x10 cab already. I put a Ragen Cajun in the combo. Such a Great amp. I also have a Clean 130 watt RMS tube amp head with 2x12 EV cab that I use for power & the X2 head Line Out as a Pre Amp. I suggest trying the Fuse Software to Totally Customise any amp or Fx in any of the 16 voicings. Also has a Midrange Controll which makes a big differance when ya boost the Mid. It just makes me LOVE this amp all the more. I use the Line Out for Direct recording in PT12 Best sounding & I have an 11Rack. I but I tend to use the Line Out on the X2 more for recording. Small point on the combo I bought brand new. The 5 year warranty is not on the Tubes. The 12AX7 went & I thought the amp was gone? after only having the amp about 4 months. Lucky I had an extra GT I've kept for 35 year's for just such an occation. Thank God I popped it in & it worked perfectly. Thanks for this Awesome channel. Happy Jamming to All.
I've got both amps and use the Super Champ much more. One i discovered voice 3, that did it for me. A nice fat luxurious tone. In fact I stereonit with my Vibrolux and wow. Stand back.
Helpful review. I took a look at the schematic, and the dual triode has one side set up for modest gain and the other as a split load phase inverter to drive the push pull power stage. So the preamp tube does and a little tone shaping.
These little SCX2 amps are great lil amps . They take pedals well and the voicings & effects offer lots of options to find great tones . Id love to have a Princeton ,but just can't drop a grand on one .
the differences are simply speakers! save money and go with the X2 but Upgrade the speakers.
Hey guys.I own a Fender Super Champ X2, and after some upgrades I think that the combo sounds excelent,I my point of view, of course.I changed the speaker with a Eminence Ragin Cajun 10" 75W, I also changed the stock output transformer with a mercury magnetics one.Now my combo sounds excelent like a 900 dollars amp.I love it.
How hard is it to change that transformer? Just soldering?
The Princeton really jumped out to me as being the warmer of the two. But the Champ X2 is a lot more versatile.
It Amiya me the Princeton is now made in the Mexican plant, I have an original and I also have a reissue and my reissue is from the late 90s and it's USA made
Except for the tremolo, the X2 sounded better in all situations for me. Great comparison, thank you!
@the supernatural for sure princeton is much better in person.
Dude, your reviews are awesome! The fact that you are a fender dealer, and this doesn't sound "fake" or "sales pitch-y". Really just a solid, honest, and insightful. Very big fan of your channel!
Phillip, does the X2 sound like the XD? Would a Super Champ XD be a nice amp for a longtime player for home use? I'm just looking for a good sounding, inexpensive tube amp for my Tele.
Buy the X2, they are out there
Hands down: The Princeton!
Wish you would have used the Princeton voice so that we could actually tell the difference between the 2 and not comparing just your favorite voice on the Champ x2.
I thought this was a class A amp, not a push pull (AB) amp.
I bought the X2 but stepped up to the FSR. It has a wine colored Rolex a wicker grill and a greenback celestion 10". I'm very pleased with the versatility, price & sounds. If you're looking for an around the house do it all amp, this is it. I love it!
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