Horse Racing Podcast: Epsom Reflections
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- Опубликовано: 4 июн 2024
- Oisin Murphy joins the team as they look back on all the drama of Epsom and the various talking points to come out of the meeting.
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Graham is a far better poet than a tipster
I’ve always wanted to have a similar build up to Royal Ascot as we’ve developed with the Cheltenham Festival but realistically that puts the Derby at more risk with the two being so close. The Derby needs it more than Royal Ascot does. What we need is to introduce a similar build up to the Kentucky Derby where we have more stable visits, more interviews, more opinions weeks, or better, months in advance of the event. I know he never ran in the Derby but I’d give up a lot to be able to have seen Frankel go up the gallops more, and see how he developed from 2-3. I refer to Frankel because we need to get as excited about our Derby horses as we did with him, the Derby is all about potential and that’s what needs to captivate our audiences. Allow us to familiarise ourselves with entrants by visiting stables and covering the horses they’re most looking forward to with big flat targets, paying particular attention to their possible Classic contenders. It’s easier with jumpers because we might be seeing them for six or seven seasons, which allows us to gain some kind of affection for horses but these younger animals are so unexposed that you don’t really have enough time to grow that affection for them, at least making it harder for those looking in from outside the sport. In recent years these top class horses are retired after maybe three seasons but of those the better horses may be retired even sooner than that to protect their commercial value. Id happily do these stable visits, interviews, discussions and previews, would be fascinating.
I have a slightly different take on this. The big problem flat racing has compared with jumps right now, flat racing is hard to win at. Royal Ascot is so competitive , it means it’s difficult for punters to find winners at. Now if you look at jumps, every season in the last decade has seen numerous novice aeroplanes or established great horses win big races. Good punters care about value, majority of punters just want winners. If you follow Nicholls/Henderson/Skelton hype horses in England, then Mullins/Elliott hype horses in Ireland, you will find loads of winners. If the average punter is feeling the winning experience far more, it’s builds a narrative and interest which leads through the season up to the festival on March, which has also become easy to follow the front of market and find winners.
Flat racing does not have this, cos it’s harder work and you need more knowledge to succeed in it. There is a pool of about 30-40 trainers who can all have group horses on the flat. There is about 8-9 over the jumps. Flat racing suffers because moderate punters cannot win as often as they can over jumps.
Racing has had its day.
The cost of going racing is a major factor £20 for a family race day adult admission at Nottingham £40 plus at Leicester in July .
It cant be a family day out any more unless you live in london area its in thc middle of nowhere its too far to travel and costs too much when you get there you can get in free but they have made it difficult by fencing evrywhere off you have to know your way about or struggle
Racing is in decline, will end up the same way as speedway which was so much bigger than horse racing back in the day.
Going the same way of greyhounds racing .
To quote you GC..give it a rest
£165? Wtf it might as well be £565 ! Nobody wants to pay that when its on tv and u can watch it in the pub for nothing
Newmarket shows how popular racing isnt any more about 10 thousand for the guineas meeting its just not as much fun as jumps tacing
You can't hide the fact, that Aidan has flopped in the 2,000 Guineas for the last two years and not won it since 2019
Most race courses will end up as Housing Estates in the near future.
Hidden Law and Arabian Crown would have beaten City of Troy. Even the loose horse, voyage beat him, so he can't be that special
The thing with racing is its a gambling media. Lets not pretend its some sort of major sporting event like football or tennis .
The only people who are interested in racing is gamblers .
Not true, I'm not a gambler, but follow racing.
One can't exist without the other
Football has more gambling on it than racing does it's the biggest revenue earner for bookmakers
@trevormeeks4084 yh but if you took gambling away the fans would still go to games take gambling away from horse racing and nobody would go or care about it apart from afew .
captain has knocked your theory on the head
@@TomLeach-dd8cl ok but if your theory is true the cost of racing is irrelevant because football is just as expensive.so perhaps your right