Debunking the Clock Argument || Daniel Naroditsky || Part 4 ⏲️

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  • Опубликовано: 7 ноя 2024

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  • @tamelnv7048
    @tamelnv7048 6 дней назад +12

    the audacity to think that he's definitely looking at the clock in that moment is crazy

  • @shadowfighter298
    @shadowfighter298 8 дней назад +40

    according to some defenders: Naroditsky is looking at clock like 50 times in blitz game with intense reading look... aha sure :)

    • @b3rno
      @b3rno 8 дней назад +8

      He is very sus imo

    • @facesbookses2044
      @facesbookses2044 6 дней назад

      And this is one of Kramnik's botted comments

    • @chessticulate
      @chessticulate 3 дня назад +1

      @@facesbookses2044 Err, no, it's very suspect.

  • @faustolaporte9843
    @faustolaporte9843 7 дней назад +20

    as one who plays online very often I can say you don't need to look at a piece to grab it by mouse

  • @nocapguy9831
    @nocapguy9831 8 дней назад +21

    waiting for another dubious explanation from danya stans

  • @alainschadeck26
    @alainschadeck26 8 дней назад +17

    Great footage (as usual)! To put it mildly: it’s very suspicious 🤨 It seems like he is literally reading the engine lines.

    • @Bernard-Cheat-Hunter
      @Bernard-Cheat-Hunter  8 дней назад +3

      I agree! I can’t understand how people think those two pictures of Dania looking at the same spot 🤷‍♂

  • @BortSamsung
    @BortSamsung 6 дней назад +22

    This video is asinine and proves nothing other than you have too much time on your hands.

    • @89Madridista
      @89Madridista 6 дней назад +2

      He having too much time doesn't disprove any of his points

    • @Bernard-Cheat-Hunter
      @Bernard-Cheat-Hunter  5 дней назад +5

      Your comment proves you are not ready for the truth

    • @chessbrilliance8783
      @chessbrilliance8783 8 часов назад

      And you are a very smart and busy person huh?! 😂😂😂. You didn't even notice that you watched this very video and even gave a comment!! So smart....

  • @MM-tt3np
    @MM-tt3np 4 дня назад +2

    Hikaru once said he was the only one he knew of who could play blitz against top players and talk while playing, Danya talks aaaay lot and ......wins against them :)
    And his eyes leaves the board like crazy :o
    Should been burried like Kasparov when he plays tough positions.

  • @FreedomLover-s1r
    @FreedomLover-s1r 8 дней назад +20

    It's so obvious for me! Thanks for your work, I hope you will help clean chess out of thouse cheaters!

  • @byakbyakostnyj925
    @byakbyakostnyj925 4 дня назад +1

    Pay attention to Alireza's eyes for comparison

  • @jorgesanchez2118
    @jorgesanchez2118 8 дней назад +5

    Great work. Appreciate your work.

  • @chessbrilliance8783
    @chessbrilliance8783 8 часов назад +1

    Even looking at the chat during Play should be forbidden because people are giving moves there all the time. It is at least bad ethic...

  • @MM-tt3np
    @MM-tt3np 4 дня назад +1

    I rest my case if his monitor is 64 inch and it is one feet away, but it aint ;)

  • @Stayawhileandlisten
    @Stayawhileandlisten 7 дней назад +13

    Why don't you admit that you are Kramnik, is not very honest to hide behind an anonymous account. It's very easy to tell it's you from the way you write.

    • @thereeldrummerboy
      @thereeldrummerboy 7 дней назад +1

      Exactly. Kramnik hiding on an anonymous account because the comments section on the videos on his channel are full of people seeing right through him.

    • @trumppence3834
      @trumppence3834 6 дней назад +1

      @@thereeldrummerboynot even close. Thanks for playing, try again

    • @thereeldrummerboy
      @thereeldrummerboy 6 дней назад +1

      @@trumppence3834 if you don’t think there are people seeing right through him, you’re delusional. 😂😂 Unlike Kramnik I actually have undeniable evidence that what I’m saying is true. Look at the comments on his videos on his RUclips channel. Many people are saying that they don’t think Daniel is cheating.

    • @junaubomber6977
      @junaubomber6977 5 дней назад

      That would be hilarious though! Notice how the video description even reads like sth Kramnik would say

    • @rhwing5095
      @rhwing5095 2 дня назад

      ​@@thereeldrummerboy People saying "they don't think Danya is cheating" in the comments section is proof that people are seeing right through him. That is your evidence? Wow. Very compelling. Here's a more objective take on reality: Comments sections on his videos are a combination of praise for his efforts, some discussions about the topic at hand including people on either side of the fence, or those not taking a position; and a distinct contignent of Danya zombies who voice their displeasure whilst contributing nothing productive to the discussion.

  • @ChessWithSaurabh
    @ChessWithSaurabh 8 дней назад +4

    he's again busted

  • @kristof80able
    @kristof80able 8 дней назад +6

    Compare eyes movement of Magnus and Daniel...ruclips.net/video/NwOy3UgvPTU/видео.html

    • @Bernard-Cheat-Hunter
      @Bernard-Cheat-Hunter  8 дней назад +1

      Thanks, will investigate

    • @bartekmedes8281
      @bartekmedes8281 6 дней назад

      Are you for real ? Danya gets smoked in that, in your little head you think hes cheating there?

    • @bbbbbzzzzzzzzzz5431
      @bbbbbzzzzzzzzzz5431 6 дней назад

      ​@@bartekmedes8281world rapid and blitz ? Speed chess championship?🎉🎉🎉

    • @kristof80able
      @kristof80able 2 дня назад

      @@bartekmedes8281 Watch after 8 min.

  • @chesswastaken
    @chesswastaken 7 дней назад +1

    green lines are not pointed to the correct direction. why are they going down? he is not looking down

    • @Bernard-Cheat-Hunter
      @Bernard-Cheat-Hunter  7 дней назад +1

      Of course he’s not looking down. Because the camera is positioned above his head, and the perspective created by the placement of the camera relative to his head and Daniel’s line of sight makes it appear as though he is looking down. So, to answer your question, he isn’t actually looking downward. It’s similar to when a plane flies past you toward the horizon, it might seem like it’s descending, but in reality, it’s just moving further away from you. It’s all a matter of perspective

  • @meagherman1013
    @meagherman1013 8 дней назад +8

    Those lines were drawn so poorly, you just decided to draw them vastly different. They’re basically looking at the same place in both pictures.

    • @b3rno
      @b3rno 8 дней назад +4

      Hahaha you must be joking 😂

    • @chessticulate
      @chessticulate 3 дня назад

      Blind or stupid?

    • @rhwing5095
      @rhwing5095 2 дня назад

      The lines are indeed not drawn correctly and clearly an exaggeration. I think it was done for illustration purposes. However, if you test this yourself (as I have), trying to reproduce what you see here, the only way to get those two gazes is to look at a substantially different location. So to say "they are basically looking at the same place" is just as misleading. Merely raising your eyes just above the monitor (vs looking at the clock) is barely noticeable, if at all. Nothing like what you see with Naroditsky. Don't take my word for it. You have a webcam? Try it...

  • @vfsjanusze9716
    @vfsjanusze9716 8 дней назад +2

    Is there any chance Daniel will se this and comment?

    • @Bernard-Cheat-Hunter
      @Bernard-Cheat-Hunter  8 дней назад +1

      I hope so! There are some questions that cry out for answers.

    • @kristof80able
      @kristof80able 8 дней назад +2

      I don't think so, he seems very busy by looking at ''the clock''.

    • @Bernard-Cheat-Hunter
      @Bernard-Cheat-Hunter  8 дней назад +5

      @@kristof80able He’s playing the Clock Game; chess is just an addition

  • @Shadow-7295
    @Shadow-7295 5 дней назад

    Maybe talk to an expert in forensics. This video proves nothing, lol ...

  • @robm2111
    @robm2111 6 дней назад

    Sorry but those eyes angles look the same. Look at the whites of his left eye 1:36. Identical. Only the head angle is different.

  • @ChessWizard-cn8kk
    @ChessWizard-cn8kk 4 дня назад

    Its his own clock dumas

  • @bartekmedes8281
    @bartekmedes8281 6 дней назад

    This is your reasoning, doesnt make sense too look at the opponents clock too long LOL. Ask yourself "would this explanation video and wasting too much time looking at my opponents clock" would that stand up in court, where hard proof is needed. Ask yourself this question before you make more stupid videos, if Danya ever gets a lawsuit doing, you should be in it.

  • @facesbookses2044
    @facesbookses2044 6 дней назад +3

    LOL, read the description. This is 100% a Kramnik smurf account.🤣Also alot of botted comments here supporting this video with wierd names and many likes. I suspect that he probably has gotten help from his "tech guy" from the other "cheating" case where he played Jose live in the clash of blames... where Kramnik basicly changed the rules and treathen to quit the game when he was losing. This man is acting like an absolute maniac at this point.

    • @Bernard-Cheat-Hunter
      @Bernard-Cheat-Hunter  6 дней назад

      I’m flattered that you think I’m Vladimir, thank you very much! If you think that, well, I won’t lie to you, but I won’t tell you the truth either 😘

  • @TheRoamingKnight
    @TheRoamingKnight 6 дней назад +2

    Draws random lines that don’t align and calls it proof 😂😂😂

  • @SzymonMiedzianowski
    @SzymonMiedzianowski 8 дней назад +3

    hmmmm Interesting... Hard to say man, I mean for me it's like looking at the clock ??

    • @Bernard-Cheat-Hunter
      @Bernard-Cheat-Hunter  8 дней назад +4

      Again, watch the video. The clock is positioned above the H8 square, while Daniel is observing from a point above and to the right of it

    • @kristof80able
      @kristof80able 8 дней назад +3

      So he is more concentrated looking at the clock than lookin at the board?

    • @Bernard-Cheat-Hunter
      @Bernard-Cheat-Hunter  8 дней назад +4

      @@kristof80able Seems like for him more interesting is clock lol

  • @worldcesar
    @worldcesar 6 дней назад

    I'm sorry, but I believe you're wasting your time and making accusations without concrete evidence. This is all speculation. If he did play unfairly, we may never know for sure. Even so, I don’t think it’s a good idea to make a video analyzing his eye movements during an online chess game. That seems like an unnecessary attack.

  • @BenOri-vg8le
    @BenOri-vg8le 7 дней назад +2

    This video is very weak.as his chat also to the right. And the eye contact is very unclear here.
    Your claim here is a bit dubious I prefer videos where his eyes are for more clearly going to another direction. Also it's a bit weird that he barely looks at the sides in his time mostly only on opponents time

  • @thereeldrummerboy
    @thereeldrummerboy 7 дней назад +2

    You do realize nobody important in the chess world will ever awknowledge you, right?

  • @rabotaemploho
    @rabotaemploho 8 дней назад +1

    That s hilarious 😂😂😂 Gg bruh

  • @alekhinesgun9997
    @alekhinesgun9997 7 дней назад +3

    It's so disheartening to see the chess community being this egregiously stupid. Even if it's a small fraction, it's insane people think Naroditsky is cheating.

    • @Bernard-Cheat-Hunter
      @Bernard-Cheat-Hunter  7 дней назад +5

      Th same thing people said about petrosian before he got cought ;)

  • @Apparition-hl1vv
    @Apparition-hl1vv 5 дней назад

    I live in the Charlotte area and know Daniel personally and can tell u this is all Bs, and he’s rlly hurt from all this-, we’re not like best friends but ik he’d never cheat but i see it’s affecting him he’s not cheating. So pls find someone who may actually be cheating and make a case study on them

    • @Bernard-Cheat-Hunter
      @Bernard-Cheat-Hunter  5 дней назад +2

      I'm sorry to hear that Daniel is not well, I wish him all best really. However, one way to remedy a difficult situation is to admit to mistakes, start over, acknowledge of wrong doing, apologize to all the people that was deceived, and try to stand in the truth

  • @rebeccasmith4182
    @rebeccasmith4182 6 дней назад +1

    If he is cheating, how come he is so good at bullet, where there is no time to read engine lines?

  • @c2c001
    @c2c001 8 дней назад +2

    I really appreciate what you are trying to do. I think this is very important work. However, as such, it needs to be extremely evidence based and extremely accurate and currently I'm not sure that it is. Your drawn lines (the ones that signify the direction of his gaze) are simply inaccurate, It's easy to see that. I don't know if there's a tool that can help with it or otherwise a way to measure the angle by comparing both eyes then drawing a line (or two) from there on.
    Either way, I'm just not sure about the whole thing. Or at least I should say I find the whole idea of where someone is looking to be rather inconclusive. I'm not going to doom someone as a cheater because he has eye movement tendencies that don't reflect the norm.
    I mean, I even heard Naroditsky himself saying that he doesn't look down and that looking down isn't something chess players do and that would be a sign for cheating. Well, I look down! I look down all the time!
    So the whole thing seems questionable.

    • @Bernard-Cheat-Hunter
      @Bernard-Cheat-Hunter  7 дней назад

      ruclips.net/video/F5xr3p9S5AU/видео.html how about this one?

  • @thesazbak5342
    @thesazbak5342 7 дней назад +2

    Trying to track his eyes and come up with conclusions based on that feels extremely flimsy. I can't even tell the difference between the eye movements and i have no reason to trust the lines drawn that you try to sign where he is looking. You would be laughed out of any debate or courtroom if you used this as your evidence.
    That's what you do, you just gather a tons of flimsy assumption and you hope the quantity will compensate for the quality.
    Kramnik became the clown of the chessworld.

  • @jaylenlenear3944
    @jaylenlenear3944 6 дней назад

    who creates a channel for the sole purpose of being a hater lmao

  • @SebastianSchachner
    @SebastianSchachner 6 дней назад +1

    ah yes everyone like Hikaru, Fabiano, Alireza, Magnus etc are cheating as well right? Everyone except the holy Kramnik cheats, or how do you explain that Kramnik is the only one accusing him of cheating constantly if it is so obvious... pretty weird that all the top players defend naroditsky...
    And for the video its weird that his head is not in the same position nor his chair, but we completly ignore that, because that would be an obvious explanation for looking differently at the same spot on the screen...

  • @Neqativ
    @Neqativ 6 дней назад

    I dont know where this discussion about where danya is looking gets us. Danya has the right to look wherever he wants while in game, and does not need to explain anything about that. When you try to expose cheaters you should come up with some concrete evidence we all can work with and not this

  • @BearlyPresent
    @BearlyPresent 6 дней назад

    Honestly these accusations are getting desperate…
    1) you don’t know in your green line example that he is actually looking at the h8 square in that moment, he could easily be looking elsewhere on the board evaluating his move or calculating a line.
    2) his posture is completely different in the two clips, in the first he’s sitting more up right, and in the second he’s more slumped over, so naturally he’s lower down and would need to look further up to see the time
    3) I think the argument I am not most tired of is this whole “chess players don’t look at the clock so much” or “chess players don’t glance to the side” “you’re supposed to look at the board the whole time”… Everyone plays differently, everyone has different mannerism when thinking or calculating. Even Kramnik has moments when he glances to the side to calculate a line, yet no one calls that suspicious… and to be clear they shouldn’t, because none of this is indicative of cheating, none of this is a justification for this insane crusade you are on, micro analysing every second of Naroditsky’s existence…
    Y’all are battling ghosts, take your lithium, go touch grass…