@@F_letc.h it would still be nice if you could sample longer. Other devices like the Deluge and M8 can stream from the sdcard so they don’t have sample limits.
I bought a MPC One + for 699 and I regret every penny spent on it. It sucks. The only comparable product to the OP XY is the Deluge for 1600 including customs and taxes. Still more bulky and to me an obscure workflow. So far the OP XY is one of a kind. Yes, it's a lot of money
I actually bought an MPC One and returned it after a few weeks. I have the Deluge and while I love the Deluge, the OP XY has a keyboard and the synths just sound better. I would disagree that the OP XY is one of a kind of only because it's a lot like the OP Z, just grown up :)
Down payment for a car? Heck you can buy a second hand car in Romania with this money. On the other hand I got one. And trust me. It’s dope. It’s not worth that amount. But 20s limit is enough. You have 20s PER KEY in a drum kit. I can record guitar loops all day long. I mean what do you wanna sample? It’s called Sample for a reason. It’s a small bit. 20s is enough do sample a drum break. Enough for a 4 bar guitar loop.. etc. for sequencing you don’t need that much. They have the field for longer sessions. Bottom line I would price this at 1300-1400€. Also I wouldn’t have launched it with this amount of bugs…. Instead of sending it to a bunch of nameless RUclipsrs that recorded “jams” I would have sent it to proper testers.
TE is the Apple of the synth world, and their target audience is the same as for Apple: people who are willing to spend a lot of money on a product that looks good. And that's basically fine. Some people just cannot enjoy a product that does not look good. They're not stupid, their priorities are different.
It’s a premium product whose value can only be understood when it’s in your hands. Trust me, none of the demos or reviews can express how wonderful it feels to be making a song on it.
When the hardcore fanbois start attacking (because they have to somehow mentally justify the amount of money they wasted), you know you're on to something.
You make some valid points. I think if these units were in the $1200 range many more people would buy them. If warm audio could figure it out, I am sure TE can figure it out too....or are they just snobby and or greedy? :)
It’s all about how portable and quick to use these devices are. The price is kind of outrageous though. I wish other companies made truly portable devices like these.
I own several TE gear, and I have watched enough videos on this to understand what it's all about. I feel I made some very valid point. Did you watch the whole video? Sorry if you do not approve. All the best.
I can confirm that you can’t understand it fully without it in your hands. I have watched almost every video on it and wasn’t too excited about the onboard sounds, but I knew it was capable.. and then it arrived, I turned it on, and I was instantly impressed, all of my low expectations flew out the window. I intended to use it primarily for sequencing samples but I’ll be busy with the onboard sounds for a while. And no demo has even touched on some of the features I’ve found on it in just a short time. Point is, when you have it, it’s definitely worth the price; it’s a premium product with surprising and exploratory features that delights the user unlike any machine I’ve ever used. It’s somehow even more fun to use than the original OP-1 which I had twice.
@@captainlovett4724 It was the only TE product that instantly appealed to me. I've wanted something portable that lets me noodle when sitting on the sofa or travelling. I got the Ableton Move when It came out, but it's sat in its box since getting the OP-XY. Really powerful and doesn't feel like there are any compromises. I also like the Clip and Arrange/Song workflow as it's similar to Ableton Live, but ultimately a little more flexible, as clips can have completely different sounds. I hope they develop something to export clips/stems. I think the clips just contain MIDI/Note data, so it feels like it will be a chore to get audio out, other than playing the finished song with tracks muted multiple times etc.
You can sample 20 seconds per key on the keyboard. 20 seconds X 24.
Understood.
That’s not continuous sampling though.
@@F_letc.h it would still be nice if you could sample longer. Other devices like the Deluge and M8 can stream from the sdcard so they don’t have sample limits.
i own it and its definitely worth the price. would buy again
TE just LOVES rubes like you.
Companies tend to appreciate people who buy their products that they invested a lot of love and effort into… so yeah.
@@captainlovett4724 You forgot 'profit margin' there bucko
I bought a MPC One + for 699 and I regret every penny spent on it. It sucks.
The only comparable product to the OP XY is the Deluge for 1600 including customs and taxes.
Still more bulky and to me an obscure workflow.
So far the OP XY is one of a kind. Yes, it's a lot of money
I actually bought an MPC One and returned it after a few weeks. I have the Deluge and while I love the Deluge, the OP XY has a keyboard and the synths just sound better. I would disagree that the OP XY is one of a kind of only because it's a lot like the OP Z, just grown up :)
Down payment for a car? Heck you can buy a second hand car in Romania with this money.
On the other hand I got one. And trust me. It’s dope. It’s not worth that amount.
But 20s limit is enough. You have 20s PER KEY in a drum kit. I can record guitar loops all day long. I mean what do you wanna sample?
It’s called Sample for a reason. It’s a small bit.
20s is enough do sample a drum break. Enough for a 4 bar guitar loop.. etc. for sequencing you don’t need that much.
They have the field for longer sessions.
Bottom line I would price this at 1300-1400€. Also I wouldn’t have launched it with this amount of bugs….
Instead of sending it to a bunch of nameless RUclipsrs that recorded “jams” I would have sent it to proper testers.
TE is the Apple of the synth world, and their target audience is the same as for Apple: people who are willing to spend a lot of money on a product that looks good.
And that's basically fine. Some people just cannot enjoy a product that does not look good. They're not stupid, their priorities are different.
lol The price point is just stupid. Anyone saying "it's worth it" is in denial. The only value for money from TE is the Pocket Operators.
It’s a premium product whose value can only be understood when it’s in your hands. Trust me, none of the demos or reviews can express how wonderful it feels to be making a song on it.
@@captainlovett4724 I've got a Maschine Mk3 - I don't know how this can compare to it in terms of hardware/software captabilities and price point...
Uhhh, ummm …. my choice what I’m buying whatever 😂
Tx-6 is irreplaceable, use it all the time, couldn’t find anything to replace it
When the hardcore fanbois start attacking (because they have to somehow mentally justify the amount of money they wasted), you know you're on to something.
You make some valid points. I think if these units were in the $1200 range many more people would buy them. If warm audio could figure it out, I am sure TE can figure it out too....or are they just snobby and or greedy? :)
It’s all about how portable and quick to use these devices are. The price is kind of outrageous though. I wish other companies made truly portable devices like these.
Absolutely agree.
Don’t bother making a video unless you actually own one.
I own several TE gear, and I have watched enough videos on this to understand what it's all about. I feel I made some very valid point. Did you watch the whole video? Sorry if you do not approve. All the best.
@@RockMixerMusic
I can confirm that you can’t understand it fully without it in your hands. I have watched almost every video on it and wasn’t too excited about the onboard sounds, but I knew it was capable.. and then it arrived, I turned it on, and I was instantly impressed, all of my low expectations flew out the window. I intended to use it primarily for sequencing samples but I’ll be busy with the onboard sounds for a while. And no demo has even touched on some of the features I’ve found on it in just a short time.
Point is, when you have it, it’s definitely worth the price; it’s a premium product with surprising and exploratory features that delights the user unlike any machine I’ve ever used. It’s somehow even more fun to use than the original OP-1 which I had twice.
@@captainlovett4724 It was the only TE product that instantly appealed to me. I've wanted something portable that lets me noodle when sitting on the sofa or travelling. I got the Ableton Move when It came out, but it's sat in its box since getting the OP-XY. Really powerful and doesn't feel like there are any compromises.
I also like the Clip and Arrange/Song workflow as it's similar to Ableton Live, but ultimately a little more flexible, as clips can have completely different sounds.
I hope they develop something to export clips/stems. I think the clips just contain MIDI/Note data, so it feels like it will be a chore to get audio out, other than playing the finished song with tracks muted multiple times etc.
@@MattCulpin cool