I've seen some large prints from phones that have initially looked impressive, however when you compare side by side to an image taken by a camera with a larger sensor you can immediately see the difference and in just how much better the image from the larger sensor camera is. That "over sharpened" look is the camera trying to compensate for that. The sensor size difference is comparable to the difference between 35mm and large format, there's just no replacement for displacement.
Yes, that's why medium format was considered the ideal format in that all enlargements would look good because of the distance we viewed them at. 35mm film just looks bad now.
This is true , but if you have to pixel peep ,the images has been lost on the viewer , if the image has impact the camera that was used matters little . Imagine asking Gordon Ramsey after tasting one of his excellent omelets,” what type of whisk did you use ? “ some of Cartier Bressons images are grainy when viewed closely ,but.....
@@DavidSmith-gj2dm I think a better analogy would be between free range and battery eggs, but I don't think you'd have to to the level of 'pixel peeping' to tell the difference.
It’s a given that if you compare large prints of a smartphone photo vs. a DSLR/mirrorless side by side, you will spot differences in quality. Thankfully, most people who frame a photo on their wall don’t constantly walk up to it with a higher-quality print to scrutinize for defects-and neither will their guests. In that context, “initially impressive” is what matters.
Ive been using my iPhone 11 pro instead of carrying wide angle lenses recently and have been shocked at how good they are, Glad you've confirmed it because most people scoff when I mention it.
I have got to say wow. 😮 I’m surprised how good they came out. I’d never thought of printing my iPhone images, but this has really changed my mind. Thanks for sharing. 👍
Just the video and content I've been looking for. This is what I'm planing to do with my landscape and outdoor images. I have a professional printer doing the printing work and the frames.
Those photos are stunning Nigel, just goes to show how much of photography is about the person behind the camera, conditions, lighting and location, not what’s used to take it. I guess the dpi of the prints didn’t matter too much in the end either which is good as it means I can stop worrying so much about printing a bit bigger with my old 450d. Thanks for the great video, all the best Nigel 👍
I have to say, seeing this video has saved me big time money. I am at a crossroads in my photography career. I shoot with just an iPhone 11 pro maxx. I have come to the point where I am selling small prints which is fine with the iPhone. I just recently had an art museum who wanted to carry my prints. They wanted big sizes. Every-time I tried printing one online, it says the resolution was too low. So I thought I had to buy a DSLR and start learning how to shoot with one. I really didn't want to do that. I just feel so comfortable with the iPhone. Just want to say thanks so much!
I use Samsung exclusively, so I can't say for sure what programs other manufacturers run. Even my old Galaxy S7 (2016) has "Pro mode" which negates automatic anything. I have complete control over every aspect of the composition. I've taken some very nice 15-second shots of the night sky. Excited for when Samsung re-ups on their supply of S20s so I can get the one I want. 108mp camera. O! M! G!
@@adnaantajammal2355 True! I see there is a 108mp android phone out there. I sent Nigel a phone through his ND2020, it was a photo I had taken in Iceland with my iPhone and I used the app slow shutter which created the water blur. I am starting to think toting around 30 pounds of camera gear will be a thing of the past.
@@jamesscarborough9545 phones still are horrible compared to actual cameras. My d3500 with my supertelephoto equivalent sigma dg would take any phone on earth for wildlife and it's still hard to get good results. And phones are horrible for astrophotography
From someone coming from the print production world, 72 dpi is not a very good resolution to print from unless the image is really big. 240dpi is great.
Have to say that seeing such large prints made off of phone shots blows me away too. Had an urge of trashing my dslr and all the lenses and getting myself an iphone 😃 Great video which proves that what you need to take great photos is often phone that sits in one's pocket.
FYI the Google Pixel camera software applies all the AI goodies to the RAW images. They made that change about a year ago. Before that you had the same Raw vs Jpg (with AI) tradoff that is still present in iPhones today. On Pixel you can even use the Night Sight images as Raws
I own an iPhone 7 and to be fair, any higher-end phone from that era onwards have amazing cameras for what they are; what drove me off is the way manufacturers “bake” their JPGs, usually over-sharpened and heavy on noise reduction. I started taking DNG files and I couldn’t be happier with its quality ☺️ I have yet to print that big but as far as A4 is concerned, no issues.
Good Video. A textured paper like you use here tends to reduce the detail of a high res image while at the same time that texture can create the illusion of more detail on a low res image. I guess a comparison on glossy paper would show more differences.
Fab video, answered all my questions, great quality filming, editing your shots are fantastic and your website is awesome too. I had just been told by a professional printing company, I could only blow up my iPhone landscape photos to 8 x 6, I was gutted as I have some lovely shots, you have just restored my faith in my iPhone. Thank you.
Interesting discussion of a topic that isn't often covered. How/when do you decide to send your image to a printer versus printing it on your own nice printers?
I have printed before photos from my iphone up to A4 size and some panos for my wall. I never thought you can print this big from a camera phone. I am very impressed!
I see people using the terms 'pixels per inch' (ppi) and 'dots per inch' (dpi) as though they are the same thing (I've done it myself in the past). They are not the same thing or interchangeable. ppi refers to the digital image resolution, (confusingly perhaps) for printing. Dpi refers to printer output quality. A printer usually takes several dots to make one equivalent image pixel. If it helps, what matters to us is image resolution - ppi. Don't concern yourself about printer (dpi) resolution. Just select a 'high quality' printer setting [HQ is usually 1440-2880 dpi.] What can be important is whether the image (file) is resampled, or upsized with digital interpolation, which may, or may not be going on here with Nigel's examples. A 12Mpix file printed large at about 30" will only be 130ppi and 'pixelization' might be able to be seen in the print. [A rule of thumb is aim for greater than 180ppi]. I suspect there has been some resampling for the biggest prints. Edit: Nigel replied that he didn't scale his photos (I missed it somehow).
@@NigelDanson Thanks Nigel. We've all done it / do it, myself included. It seems ok when 'we' know what we really mean, but I see a number of comments referring to ppi as dpi. It might just add to 'printing confusion', especially when we talk of 240 dpi (ppi) and people see printer dpi at 1440 / 2880 dpi etc. Cheers, appreciate all your replies.
Really excellent video Nigel, thanks for letting us see the comparisons, phones cameras have improved out of all recognition, that’s for sure. Stay safe, hope Pebbles is coping ok too!
Great experiment to share with viewers! One thing content creators don't seem to discuss very often is the lighting conditions used to evaluate prints. When evaluating your prints, what brightness do you consider ideal for evaluating print contrast and density? Many thanks!
Great prints. The size of the sensor in this case makes a positive impact in the smartphone photos, quite sharp images from front to back. I would not mind having a bit of softness in the corners. I like the paper that you've used, has a nice texture.
i spotted to iphone one on that rock photo, it looked more artifical and even in this youtube video showing them side by side from a far it looked oversharpened.
Nigel ,Great Job well done . As always learning allot with your RUclips videos. This old dog learning new tricks. Ha! Ha! I guess your right by taking your iPhone with you on a shoot.
that is why the right paper for the right picture is very important. perhaps when printing a picture with a model on it will show that the model had "bad skin"... ? :)
I wonder what the results would have been like in a more low light setting where the larger sensor size would have benefited such as a shot at dusk or moonlit lake.
Enjoyed this latest video very much. It would be very helpful if you discussed your print settings in Lightroom .... color management, etc. And as a Canon printer, why don't you use the Canon Print Studio Pro.
Despite looking at the results second hand through the video I went “Wow” when you showed the first pixel print. That’s a fantastic image! Now about these prints with 30% off, are you cropping them vertically or horizontally?
Wonderful video. Rather enjoyed it. I have successfully sold prints from my iPhone 11 Pro, but not quite this big. The buyer was thrilled with the print (paid me twice as much as I was asking), and never asked what equipment I utilized for the capture. Now, I certainly love all cameras and the results that can be achieved with various tools, but I now consider my phone photos as 'photography' just the same.
Thanks Kevin. What it was taken with shouldn't really matter. After all when we see a Monet we don't ask what make of brush he used... (maybe back then they did!)
Hey nigel can you replicate this test on portraits. Id imagine the result of full frame vs phone portrait snap would expose the phone sensor weakness much more
Everyone who is shocked is believing in the megapixel wars. TBH, like Nigel Danson Looking at those iPhone and the Dedicated camera prints @ about two feet is Pixelpeeping! If you view them at a correct distance it is much harder to see the difference. That was done with a single iPhone shot, Just imagine if you took multiple iPhone shots and stitched them together. I have been waiting for someone to Print some iPhone pictures large Thanks, @Nigel Danson. 🙏
Awesome work, as usual and expected. It goes to show, it is ultimately the artistry and the craftmanship behind the camera. Wonder how the camera manufacturers would think of this, guess would make them pause a bit:)
And here was me worrying about shooting with a Canon 5d MkII and 7d MkI and thinking they were getting old. I'm sure Nikon, Canon, Sony are going to love you Nigel lol I have to say I was shocked at the quality coming out of the mobile phone images.
I use Gigapixel to enhance small sensor pictures to make bigger prints. I was blown away with the quality you achieved. I guess the trick is not to crop and do it all in camera.
Good video, just goes to show that within reason and in certain situations the camera used to take a photograph isn't always as important as people think. I'm currently using the Pro-10s which produces amazing prints but would love to have the ability to print at A1 sometimes.
I just love your channel Nigel! I've been watching you for a few years now. I'm a mobile photographer and this video was amazing. I've had a few photos made in canvas but wasn't happy with it. This video inspires me to find a good printshop and get my photos in print.
Nice video. You really need the S 23 Ultra! Expert Raw is now built in and with your skill and tools you would very much appreciate it if not be totally blown away. 200 mp. I see this video is a couple years old so you may very well have it already.
I recently had one of my heavily cropped and in Gigapixel-processed pictures printed and framed to 80cm square. WOW, amazing! So what’s left is the process of shooting with expensive gear vs. a soft click on a phone’s screen....!
simon maney Yes absolutely. It’s doing a wonderful job! I rescued old and cropped pictures and made them come to life again, quite stunning technology. The picture I talked about came from an iPhone 10mp and approx. cropped 40% out, so leaving about 6MP blown up to 11500px. (I know more than necessary but I ran the tests...). I am happy!
@@os6219 Fantastic feedback, thanks. I don't always get it right in camera and end up cropping a bit (horizons etc). This can sometimes be a bit limiting for big prints for 200+ ppi etc. I've upsized in Photoshop, but the results can be quite soft, at pixel level at least. This Gigapixel could be the answer, cheers!
I’m thankful you didn’t fill this video with armchair (theoretical, academic or photography forum) discussion about dpi and that you just simply printed and evaluated the results. Nice job!
That is unbelievable! I guessed wrong! It is incredible what phones can do, I printed a massive canvas that hangs in my front room from my Samsung S9 Edge, just wish it would shoot in RAW! Great video as always!
Not necessarily. Historically that has been the case because they didn't have 50 and 100 MP cameras, so if you blew an image up it looked like crap. With 4k and 8k people are more and more expecting to view large prints up close to see all the fine detail. I have a 65" 4K TV and I sit much closer to it than I did my old 46" 1080P TV, and it's much more enjoyable and exciting, immersive and beautiful, and looks much better even though I'm closer. The resolution/sharpness/detail determines how close you can view an image. One of the things I loved about my D800 back when I got it was the huge prints I could make that were hyper-detailed and clear so you could walk right up to them and inspect all that detail - which is your natural instinct to do when you see somthing that has fine detail.
When printing from photoshop what Rendering Intents do you use ? Absolute Colorimetric, Relative Colorimetric, Perceptual or Saturation ? and how do you calibrate your screen, photoshop and printer to print what you see on your screen ? I have the Canon Pro-100 and am having trouble printing from screen to paper looks a little darker than on screen - I have to up the exposure in photoshop by 1 or 2 stops to get a correct exposure on paper
I'm betting it's easier to tell the difference in person than you're letting on. I know when I transfer my iPhone 11 Pro images to my computer to view them on my large screen they always look quite bad to me. I can't imagine how that could change just by printing them even larger.
You are a great photographer! In regards to iPhones -> they take good photos if there is a lot of light, which is the case in all these photos you printed. In low light the utterly fail,
I've shared this video with my photography friends. I've been using and printing from my iPhone for several years, and have won judged competitions. I'm a believer, but this helps. Isn't photography fun.
Hi Nigel, really great video. I see Autumn Oak has already sold out! I think you should offer more of the cheaper prints as they will definitely sell more off. I’d have loved to get my hands on one of them with your discount. I know people will want to help support your fund raising efforts, but with people not working and not earning, that might be hard.. So more smaller less pricey prints would be fab! Thanks Nigel, as always inspiring work and now inspiring charity work. Truly a top bloke! 👍🙂
Sorry Nigel, I just meant maybe make some more available of the cheaper ones for other people as I noticed autumn oak had already sold out. That was all :-)
This is so wow... Literally this blew my mind away. I can feel my head filled with clouds of smoke. Eager to see more tutorials from you. Above all, stay safe and take care.
I've got three 13 inch x 71 inch panos from my Galaxy s7+ and you really don't notice it is from a phone because you are usually more than 5 feet away from it while viewing.
What an amazing challenge! Although the photos taken with a mobile phone look pretty good on an electronic screen, I did not expect that even the printed works are so stunning. Perhaps since then, photographic equipment is no longer an excuse for taking bad photos, and the photographer's creation will be more open.Support you.At the same time, I hope that the epidemic in the world can end as soon as possible.Looking forward to your more quality content, thank you.
Hi Nigel. Could you breakdown how Much one of those prints costs ? Paper and Ink wise ? Also would be great to know how many prints do you expect to make on that printer on a period of about, say, 4 years and what that means in cost terms per print also. Just wondering how much of an investment it represents and if it’s worth investing on that or just send out to print.
Excellent video Nigel! On the one hand I feel stupid spending so much money on camera gear when my phone is so capable but on the other hand most of the time it's about the art of photography and how you feel when you make a photograph and when I shoot with my phone I just don't feel it. Most photographers say the best camera is the one you have with you so I try to have my camera always with me :P. Thanks again Nigel, beautiful video and beautiful photographs!
George Nik. Fakinos I agree, it’s about the art of photography and how you feel. I also don’t get that satisfaction with a phone compared to an actual camera But it does show you can be creative with any camera, be it a dslr or a phone. A lot of it can come down to your creativity
Thanks for the informative video. As a San Franciso native I love your hat. Topaz Gigapixel A. I. is a tool that you need to try out. Imgine what you could do with a cage for your phone and some real lenses...
Amazing prints - particularly impressed with the iPhone 11 results. So the thought that goes through my mind is that are there compact cameras that take advantage of this AI technology - so I can replace my mirrorless sony as the lenses are so bloody expensive. Suggestions Nigel or anyone? Thanks, Zul
Yes, I watch on a 4k display, and the video itself is soft and muddy. Couldn't distinguish anything. Should have done way more of those close up shots to distinguish the actual resolution difference. Overall I would say the iphone images look quite decent as the phone processing of the colors and rendering the image overall is good. But never truly comparable with a dedicated camera. I would say that Iphone and phone cameras in general are reaching a point where they're comparable to highest end professional gear from the last decade. Which is actually astonishing, considering the sensor size.
@@keithwiebe1787 Well I said from last decade, which implies cameras from 2001 to 2010. Most cameras even in 2006 or even up to 2008 didn't have much more than 8 to 12Mpx sensors, and had crappy software. Yes, resolution is not that important, but new phones pushing 40mpx sensors render so much detail, and having incredible software that they can compete with bigger sensors and much better glass from 10 to 15 years ago. Take for example the original Canon 5D. A flagship camera at the time! 12mpx with being capable of barely reaching iso 1600. Even though it's full frame, most modern phones are on par or even outperform it in low light night situations. Modern phones are surprisingly impressive in low light despite small sensors, thanks to advanced AI software. And when high resolution images are downsampled to 12mpx the difference is becoming very small. Most notably the only real difference can be depth of field for portrait shots. Which physically can't ever be altered, but can be faked with software, which phones are also getting better at. For landscapes phones can be on par with old cameras, just because of sheer resolution power. To be clear I'm not advocating phones as primary cameras, I hate the damn things. They can be convenient sometimes, but can't ever replace a real camera. I own a modern full frame camera and no phone can go nowhere near it. I am merely regarding that it's fascinating how far they pushed the technology so far.
@@MrDox90 Yes, I came from the era of the Canon D60 which I believe was a 6mpx camera and one could definitely tell what quality of lenses were used from that low of mpx. I moved on to a Canon 30d which was 8mpx which took wonderful pics but not at high iso. Now, I'm using a 5d Mk111 and love it.
So glad I watched this. I wouldn’t have believed it was possible to print that high quality off a phone camera. Amazing results with gorgeous photos.
I'd love to see an updated version with the new and improved phone cameras they are advertising are movie and professional photography level quality
Always a thrill when you get to see your own work in a really large print.
Thank for sharing your time and photos Nigel.
Staying home staying safe.
I've seen some large prints from phones that have initially looked impressive, however when you compare side by side to an image taken by a camera with a larger sensor you can immediately see the difference and in just how much better the image from the larger sensor camera is. That "over sharpened" look is the camera trying to compensate for that. The sensor size difference is comparable to the difference between 35mm and large format, there's just no replacement for displacement.
Yes, that's why medium format was considered the ideal format in that all enlargements would look good because of the distance we viewed them at. 35mm film just looks bad now.
This is true , but if you have to pixel peep ,the images has been lost on the viewer , if the image has impact the camera that was used matters little . Imagine asking Gordon Ramsey after tasting one of his excellent omelets,” what type of whisk did you use ? “ some of Cartier Bressons images are grainy when viewed closely ,but.....
@@DavidSmith-gj2dm I think a better analogy would be between free range and battery eggs, but I don't think you'd have to to the level of 'pixel peeping' to tell the difference.
It’s a given that if you compare large prints of a smartphone photo vs. a DSLR/mirrorless side by side, you will spot differences in quality. Thankfully, most people who frame a photo on their wall don’t constantly walk up to it with a higher-quality print to scrutinize for defects-and neither will their guests. In that context, “initially impressive” is what matters.
@@zecanard if I'm going to spend money on a good quality photo to hang on a wall, part of the magic is being able to go up close and see more detail.
I never thought this could be done so well with a phone. Awesome! 🙌
Ive been using my iPhone 11 pro instead of carrying wide angle lenses recently and have been shocked at how good they are, Glad you've confirmed it because most people scoff when I mention it.
Just for the love of god shoot in raw and don't let the terrible in-built post processing destroy the image.
I do the same! Only difference is I use the 13 pro
I love these type of challenges, beautiful photos!
I have got to say wow. 😮 I’m surprised how good they came out. I’d never thought of printing my iPhone images, but this has really changed my mind. Thanks for sharing. 👍
You are the gift that keeps on giving. Thanks for your cracking work Nigel. Loved that.
I've followed your videos for quite a while, and I get impressed every time by just how beautiful your landscape images are!
I love your Art and the video is exactly what I was looking for, thank you
Just the video and content I've been looking for. This is what I'm planing to do with my landscape and outdoor images. I have a professional printer doing the printing work and the frames.
I've always wanted to get your opinion on this and I'm glad you did this video!
Those photos are stunning Nigel, just goes to show how much of photography is about the person behind the camera, conditions, lighting and location, not what’s used to take it.
I guess the dpi of the prints didn’t matter too much in the end either which is good as it means I can stop worrying so much about printing a bit bigger with my old 450d. Thanks for the great video, all the best Nigel 👍
Fascinating! This is the most interesting video I’ve watch in a long time. 👍👍 I knew my iPhone was a good camera, but I didn’t realize how good.
Thank you Nigel for continuing to make interesting videos during such times, which I can take my mind off things when off work.
I have to say, seeing this video has saved me big time money. I am at a crossroads in my photography career. I shoot with just an iPhone 11 pro maxx. I have come to the point where I am selling small prints which is fine with the iPhone. I just recently had an art museum who wanted to carry my prints. They wanted big sizes. Every-time I tried printing one online, it says the resolution was too low. So I thought I had to buy a DSLR and start learning how to shoot with one. I really didn't want to do that. I just feel so comfortable with the iPhone. Just want to say thanks so much!
This goes to show, the best camera you can get is the one you have with you!
I use Samsung exclusively, so I can't say for sure what programs other manufacturers run. Even my old Galaxy S7 (2016) has "Pro mode" which negates automatic anything. I have complete control over every aspect of the composition. I've taken some very nice 15-second shots of the night sky.
Excited for when Samsung re-ups on their supply of S20s so I can get the one I want. 108mp camera.
O! M! G!
I love any video you do about prints Nigel! Would love another video talking more about paper you prefer
Coming soon!
Really great to see real world results from these amazing pocket computers that we would not have dreamed about a decade ago.
Damn, I was hoping the iphone would mess up more, then I could blame my bad photos on it. Thanks.
I was suprised!
I was hoping the same lol
Definitely also makes you think should you invest thousands in camera gear or get a phone with really good camera quality
@@adnaantajammal2355 True! I see there is a 108mp android phone out there. I sent Nigel a phone through his ND2020, it was a photo I had taken in Iceland with my iPhone and I used the app slow shutter which created the water blur. I am starting to think toting around 30 pounds of camera gear will be a thing of the past.
I use ph photo to print and get unbelievable print but I see lightroom is much better way to print.
@@jamesscarborough9545 phones still are horrible compared to actual cameras. My d3500 with my supertelephoto equivalent sigma dg would take any phone on earth for wildlife and it's still hard to get good results. And phones are horrible for astrophotography
Some lovely prints and images shared. I've been struggling to print some of my drone prints at bigger sizes
From someone coming from the print production world, 72 dpi is not a very good resolution to print from unless the image is really big. 240dpi is great.
I think when you're looking at the banner from 100 f distance,even 72 dpi looks super sharp
@@pawel-951 True, but the 72dpi image has to be built at the exact size of the banner for that to work.
Have to say that seeing such large prints made off of phone shots blows me away too. Had an urge of trashing my dslr and all the lenses and getting myself an iphone 😃 Great video which proves that what you need to take great photos is often phone that sits in one's pocket.
What an excellent video! The results really blow my mind. Thanks, Nigel! Good work!
FYI the Google Pixel camera software applies all the AI goodies to the RAW images. They made that change about a year ago. Before that you had the same Raw vs Jpg (with AI) tradoff that is still present in iPhones today.
On Pixel you can even use the Night Sight images as Raws
It does yes - but when you record raw and use 2x camera it crops the raw. 🤷🏼♂️
I own an iPhone 7 and to be fair, any higher-end phone from that era onwards have amazing cameras for what they are; what drove me off is the way manufacturers “bake” their JPGs, usually over-sharpened and heavy on noise reduction. I started taking DNG files and I couldn’t be happier with its quality ☺️
I have yet to print that big but as far as A4 is concerned, no issues.
Good Video. A textured paper like you use here tends to reduce the detail of a high res image while at the same time that texture can create the illusion of more detail on a low res image. I guess a comparison on glossy paper would show more differences.
Actually the texture paper doesn’t reduce the detail. Try it
Fab video, answered all my questions, great quality filming, editing your shots are fantastic and your website is awesome too. I had just been told by a professional printing company, I could only blow up my iPhone landscape photos to 8 x 6, I was gutted as I have some lovely shots, you have just restored my faith in my iPhone. Thank you.
Gorgeous photos! This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you so much for sharing the video! 🙌🙌🙌
Thanks so much
Interesting discussion of a topic that isn't often covered. How/when do you decide to send your image to a printer versus printing it on your own nice printers?
...I meant send it to a professional lab vs. self-print.
I have printed before photos from my iphone up to A4 size and some panos for my wall. I never thought you can print this big from a camera phone. I am very impressed!
Thank you so much. I was wondering what will it be like if I printed some of my phone photos
I see people using the terms 'pixels per inch' (ppi) and 'dots per inch' (dpi) as though they are the same thing (I've done it myself in the past). They are not the same thing or interchangeable. ppi refers to the digital image resolution, (confusingly perhaps) for printing. Dpi refers to printer output quality. A printer usually takes several dots to make one equivalent image pixel.
If it helps, what matters to us is image resolution - ppi. Don't concern yourself about printer (dpi) resolution. Just select a 'high quality' printer setting [HQ is usually 1440-2880 dpi.]
What can be important is whether the image (file) is resampled, or upsized with digital interpolation, which may, or may not be going on here with Nigel's examples.
A 12Mpix file printed large at about 30" will only be 130ppi and 'pixelization' might be able to be seen in the print. [A rule of thumb is aim for greater than 180ppi]. I suspect there has been some resampling for the biggest prints.
Edit: Nigel replied that he didn't scale his photos (I missed it somehow).
You are correct and I should have said ppi. My mistake. Good comment!
@@NigelDanson Thanks Nigel. We've all done it / do it, myself included.
It seems ok when 'we' know what we really mean, but I see a number of comments referring to ppi as dpi. It might just add to 'printing confusion', especially when we talk of 240 dpi (ppi) and people see printer dpi at 1440 / 2880 dpi etc.
Cheers, appreciate all your replies.
Really excellent video Nigel, thanks for letting us see the comparisons, phones cameras have improved out of all recognition, that’s for sure. Stay safe, hope Pebbles is coping ok too!
The smallest print of the tree is my favorite. Such a nice looking photo when printed.
Thanks Kevin
Amazing! Thanks Nigel for an inspiring talk. Cheers!
Great experiment to share with viewers! One thing content creators don't seem to discuss very often is the lighting conditions used to evaluate prints. When evaluating your prints, what brightness do you consider ideal for evaluating print contrast and density? Many thanks!
Great prints. The size of the sensor in this case makes a positive impact in the smartphone photos, quite sharp images from front to back. I would not mind having a bit of softness in the corners.
I like the paper that you've used, has a nice texture.
i spotted to iphone one on that rock photo, it looked more artifical and even in this youtube video showing them side by side from a far it looked oversharpened.
Nigel ,Great Job well done . As always learning allot with your RUclips videos. This old dog learning new tricks. Ha! Ha! I guess your right by taking your iPhone with you on a shoot.
On the snow scene I thought there was a lot of artefacts in the grey sky....then realised it is the paper texture! Excellent vlog, cheers.
that is why the right paper for the right picture is very important. perhaps when printing a picture with a model on it will show that the model had "bad skin"... ? :)
Great video, thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and expertise 🙏
I wonder what the results would have been like in a more low light setting where the larger sensor size would have benefited such as a shot at dusk or moonlit lake.
Camera phones really are amazing, not to be underestimated!
Very enjoyable video, quite surprised at how well the phone photos held up. Thanks for the content, and your channel in general👍
Enjoyed this latest video very much. It would be very helpful if you discussed your print settings in Lightroom .... color management, etc. And as a Canon printer, why don't you use the Canon Print Studio Pro.
Despite looking at the results second hand through the video I went “Wow” when you showed the first pixel print. That’s a fantastic image! Now about these prints with 30% off, are you cropping them vertically or horizontally?
Ha!
What kind of paper are you printing on in this video Nigel? I love the texture of the paper.
ME: "Whoah that's an awsome pic."
HIM: "Not my favorite image..."
Mind blowing results! Did you change the DPI on each photo before printing?
Wonderful video. Rather enjoyed it. I have successfully sold prints from my iPhone 11 Pro, but not quite this big. The buyer was thrilled with the print (paid me twice as much as I was asking), and never asked what equipment I utilized for the capture. Now, I certainly love all cameras and the results that can be achieved with various tools, but I now consider my phone photos as 'photography' just the same.
Thanks Kevin. What it was taken with shouldn't really matter. After all when we see a Monet we don't ask what make of brush he used... (maybe back then they did!)
Hey nigel can you replicate this test on portraits.
Id imagine the result of full frame vs phone portrait snap would expose the phone sensor weakness much more
Everyone who is shocked is believing in the megapixel wars.
TBH, like Nigel Danson Looking at those iPhone and the Dedicated camera prints @ about two feet is Pixelpeeping! If you view them at a correct distance it is much harder to see the difference.
That was done with a single iPhone shot, Just imagine if you took multiple iPhone shots and stitched them together.
I have been waiting for someone to Print some iPhone pictures large
Thanks, @Nigel Danson. 🙏
impressive results - thanks for sharing.
Awesome work, as usual and expected. It goes to show, it is ultimately the artistry and the craftmanship behind the camera. Wonder how the camera manufacturers would think of this, guess would make them pause a bit:)
....But all the other camera channels said you couldn't print photos unless you bought a Hasselblad through their affiliate link! 😁
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The big problem for us here is that this video is only 2.1 megapixels (1080p). 4K (8.29MP) would've helped a bit. But great video nonetheless!
Did not see that coming :) Thanks Nigel
And here was me worrying about shooting with a Canon 5d MkII and 7d MkI and thinking they were getting old. I'm sure Nikon, Canon, Sony are going to love you Nigel lol I have to say I was shocked at the quality coming out of the mobile phone images.
Pixel has computational RAW, it's on a completely different level than iPhone RAW, since the AI is actually baked into the Pixel RAWs
David Allan Harvey has amazing photographs in his books, from an iPhone.
I use Gigapixel to enhance small sensor pictures to make bigger prints. I was blown away with the quality you achieved. I guess the trick is not to crop and do it all in camera.
Good video, just goes to show that within reason and in certain situations the camera used to take a photograph isn't always as important as people think. I'm currently using the Pro-10s which produces amazing prints but would love to have the ability to print at A1 sometimes.
The Pro-10s are great!
I just love your channel Nigel! I've been watching you for a few years now. I'm a mobile photographer and this video was amazing. I've had a few photos made in canvas but wasn't happy with it. This video inspires me to find a good printshop and get my photos in print.
Brilliant video thank you so much
Nice video. You really need the S 23 Ultra! Expert Raw is now built in and with your skill and tools you would very much appreciate it if not be totally blown away. 200 mp. I see this video is a couple years old so you may very well have it already.
Good to know my crop sensor should be just fine for large prints. 👍 Rock on!
Really a great Video. I printed a picture from my son shot with a Iphone SE 1m x 0,6 m and it looks great.
I recently had one of my heavily cropped and in Gigapixel-processed pictures printed and framed to 80cm square. WOW, amazing! So what’s left is the process of shooting with expensive gear vs. a soft click on a phone’s screen....!
Are you referring to Topaz Gigapixel AI?
It looks promising for those of us who have 18-20Mpix files and want to keep our output resolution up.
simon maney Yes absolutely. It’s doing a wonderful job! I rescued old and cropped pictures and made them come to life again, quite stunning technology. The picture I talked about came from an iPhone 10mp and approx. cropped 40% out, so leaving about 6MP blown up to 11500px. (I know more than necessary but I ran the tests...). I am happy!
@@os6219 Fantastic feedback, thanks.
I don't always get it right in camera and end up cropping a bit (horizons etc). This can sometimes be a bit limiting for big prints for 200+ ppi etc.
I've upsized in Photoshop, but the results can be quite soft, at pixel level at least. This Gigapixel could be the answer, cheers!
BTW, I really like the music you used, too.
I’m thankful you didn’t fill this video with armchair (theoretical, academic or photography forum) discussion about dpi and that you just simply printed and evaluated the results. Nice job!
Thanks...
Soft around the edges? That's what matting and framing are for.😀
Great images! Thanks!
That is unbelievable! I guessed wrong! It is incredible what phones can do, I printed a massive canvas that hangs in my front room from my Samsung S9 Edge, just wish it would shoot in RAW! Great video as always!
Thanks Andy
Large prints are supposed to be viewed at a distance.
Even the murals at the airport (shot at great expense) fall apart when viewed up close.
Not necessarily. Historically that has been the case because they didn't have 50 and 100 MP cameras, so if you blew an image up it looked like crap. With 4k and 8k people are more and more expecting to view large prints up close to see all the fine detail. I have a 65" 4K TV and I sit much closer to it than I did my old 46" 1080P TV, and it's much more enjoyable and exciting, immersive and beautiful, and looks much better even though I'm closer. The resolution/sharpness/detail determines how close you can view an image. One of the things I loved about my D800 back when I got it was the huge prints I could make that were hyper-detailed and clear so you could walk right up to them and inspect all that detail - which is your natural instinct to do when you see somthing that has fine detail.
Good job mate, very impressed
Be great if you can do the same with latest Pro Raw, edit them and then print. I was surprised you hadn’t edited them and used jpeg.
When printing from photoshop what Rendering Intents do you use ? Absolute Colorimetric, Relative Colorimetric, Perceptual or Saturation ? and how do you calibrate your screen, photoshop and printer to print what you see on your screen ? I have the Canon Pro-100 and am having trouble printing from screen to paper looks a little darker than on screen - I have to up the exposure in photoshop by 1 or 2 stops to get a correct exposure on paper
I'm betting it's easier to tell the difference in person than you're letting on. I know when I transfer my iPhone 11 Pro images to my computer to view them on my large screen they always look quite bad to me. I can't imagine how that could change just by printing them even larger.
I can’t wait to try printing photos from iPhone 13 Pro.
You are a great photographer!
In regards to iPhones -> they take good photos if there is a lot of light, which is the case in all these photos you printed. In low light the utterly fail,
I've shared this video with my photography friends. I've been using and printing from my iPhone for several years, and have won judged competitions. I'm a believer, but this helps. Isn't photography fun.
Damn. This guy getting better prints on an iPhone than I have using my actual camera.
Never been try to print from phone only once, thanks for the video
Hi Nigel, really great video. I see Autumn Oak has already sold out! I think you should offer more of the cheaper prints as they will definitely sell more off. I’d have loved to get my hands on one of them with your discount. I know people will want to help support your fund raising efforts, but with people not working and not earning, that might be hard.. So more smaller less pricey prints would be fab! Thanks Nigel, as always inspiring work and now inspiring charity work. Truly a top bloke! 👍🙂
Hi David - all charity prints are £109 same as Autumn Oak 👍🏼
Sorry Nigel, I just meant maybe make some more available of the cheaper ones for other people as I noticed autumn oak had already sold out. That was all :-)
Excellent video Nigel, i wonder how we will be taking photos in the years to come
This is so wow... Literally this blew my mind away. I can feel my head filled with clouds of smoke. Eager to see more tutorials from you.
Above all, stay safe and take care.
I've got three 13 inch x 71 inch panos from my Galaxy s7+ and you really don't notice it is from a phone because you are usually more than 5 feet away from it while viewing.
What an amazing challenge! Although the photos taken with a mobile phone look pretty good on an electronic screen, I did not expect that even the printed works are so stunning. Perhaps since then, photographic equipment is no longer an excuse for taking bad photos, and the photographer's creation will be more open.Support you.At the same time, I hope that the epidemic in the world can end as soon as possible.Looking forward to your more quality content, thank you.
Equipment really doesn’t matter as much as we think.
This is sooooo helpful thank you. Subbed!
Great video as always. I wish I could get my prints just to look like they do on the mac before printing
Hi Nigel. Could you breakdown how Much one of those prints costs ? Paper and Ink wise ? Also would be great to know how many prints do you expect to make on that printer on a period of about, say, 4 years and what that means in cost terms per print also. Just wondering how much of an investment it represents and if it’s worth investing on that or just send out to print.
Excellent video Nigel! On the one hand I feel stupid spending so much money on camera gear when my phone is so capable but on the other hand most of the time it's about the art of photography and how you feel when you make a photograph and when I shoot with my phone I just don't feel it. Most photographers say the best camera is the one you have with you so I try to have my camera always with me :P. Thanks again Nigel, beautiful video and beautiful photographs!
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I agree, it’s about the art of photography and how you feel. I also don’t get that satisfaction with a phone compared to an actual camera
But it does show you can be creative with any camera, be it a dslr or a phone. A lot of it can come down to your creativity
Thanks for the informative video. As a San Franciso native I love your hat. Topaz Gigapixel A. I. is a tool that you need to try out. Imgine what you could do with a cage for your phone and some real lenses...
amazing using this video as a reference in the future
Amazing prints - particularly impressed with the iPhone 11 results. So the thought that goes through my mind is that are there compact cameras that take advantage of this AI technology - so I can replace my mirrorless sony as the lenses are so bloody expensive. Suggestions Nigel or anyone? Thanks, Zul
No, the larger sensor is what makes the Sony Mirrorless better.
the pentax q7. don’t let its age fool you!
Can't judge anything from a 1080p video.
Yes, I watch on a 4k display, and the video itself is soft and muddy. Couldn't distinguish anything. Should have done way more of those close up shots to distinguish the actual resolution difference. Overall I would say the iphone images look quite decent as the phone processing of the colors and rendering the image overall is good. But never truly comparable with a dedicated camera. I would say that Iphone and phone cameras in general are reaching a point where they're comparable to highest end professional gear from the last decade. Which is actually astonishing, considering the sensor size.
@@MrDox90 Perhaps from 20 years ago if comparing to the digital camera available than. Not 10 years ago.
@@keithwiebe1787 Well I said from last decade, which implies cameras from 2001 to 2010. Most cameras even in 2006 or even up to 2008 didn't have much more than 8 to 12Mpx sensors, and had crappy software. Yes, resolution is not that important, but new phones pushing 40mpx sensors render so much detail, and having incredible software that they can compete with bigger sensors and much better glass from 10 to 15 years ago. Take for example the original Canon 5D. A flagship camera at the time! 12mpx with being capable of barely reaching iso 1600. Even though it's full frame, most modern phones are on par or even outperform it in low light night situations. Modern phones are surprisingly impressive in low light despite small sensors, thanks to advanced AI software. And when high resolution images are downsampled to 12mpx the difference is becoming very small. Most notably the only real difference can be depth of field for portrait shots. Which physically can't ever be altered, but can be faked with software, which phones are also getting better at. For landscapes phones can be on par with old cameras, just because of sheer resolution power.
To be clear I'm not advocating phones as primary cameras, I hate the damn things. They can be convenient sometimes, but can't ever replace a real camera. I own a modern full frame camera and no phone can go nowhere near it. I am merely regarding that it's fascinating how far they pushed the technology so far.
@@MrDox90 Yes, I came from the era of the Canon D60 which I believe was a 6mpx camera and one could definitely tell what quality of lenses were used from that low of mpx. I moved on to a Canon 30d which was 8mpx which took wonderful pics but not at high iso. Now, I'm using a 5d Mk111 and love it.
ohhh snap!!
Have you ever tried Topaz Gigapixel AI? It does a GREAT job on enlarging photographs.