@WillFanofMany They did more than the show lmfao. Carl talking with Negan in his cell constantly and even showed signs of still continuing to talk to him after his exile.
Andrew Lincolns eyes throughout the series. The man is such a great actor that he showed us fear, anger, pain and happiness with his eyes. Every scenario was captured in his eyes. He's up there with the best of them.
Absolutely he’s definitely one of the best actors on the show and there could not have been a better choice for someone to play Rick. People do complain that he isn’t the same as the comics, looks different and still has his arm, but I’m okay with that. Comic Rick is great too but I like Show Rick just a tad bit more solely because of how good Lincoln’s acting is. Can’t wait for the Rick Grimes movies. Considering that they are taking so long to release them I’m expecting them to be great.
Tiara Monique Chandler didnt do it for college. He wanted to stay. His dad tried to get him to stay. He bought a house in Atlanta so he could be closer to set. Gimple fired him a week before his 18th birthday.
They reacted how I'd expect them to react after all the shit they've been through. What did you expect them to do? Have a breakdown? Enid did that because she's still a young girl and she liked Carl.
Andrew Markus And there is Negan, a psychopath who bashes heads with a baseball bat, who feels sorry for the boy who is his enemy, the boy who he barely knew.
I give up. The only explanation for this phenomenon is... A) You're a bot masquerading as a user, whose sole purpose is a barrage the comments section of any remotely popular video B) You are an omnipresent Lemon who seeks to warn humanity of our oncoming demise. C) You're just some random dude who has a good taste in videos and actively comments on a more than consistent basis. My bet is letter "B"
????? The fuck where the hell is your mind set at A Sall? Lol did u watch the show? You couldn’t have.. Negan humiliated, killed, made slaves out of Rick and several other people.. Rick loses his son bc of the war and Negan shows some “respect” and bc of that Rick is suppose to be cool and compassionate back gtfoh you had to be trolling typing that hahaha
Moe Lester, But who started it first? Rick, obviously. If Rick minded his own damn business, this shit wouldn't have happened. Those deaths were in Rick’s hands. Negan killed Glenn(Darly’sfault) and Abraham as an acted of mercy. Rick killed more of Negan’s men.
Bruh Rick literally started it first, remember when he killed that entire savior base WHILE THEY WERE SLEEPING? Negan killed Glenn and Abraham for that. 2 people in exchange for what, 30? I love Rick but I mean he's pretty brutal too.
Rick has lost friends because of Negan, His son, these people were his family and Negan was the man who took them away from Rick. I can tell you have lived a life where people never hurt you after the loss of a loved one, and the reason they hurt you was that they could. When you have that level of pain in you and someone is the reason for that pain. There is no such thing as "compassion". Like it was said, "you can not reason with the tiger when your head is in it's mouth", and Negan has been the soul driving force of evil up to this point.
If Daryl didn't punch Negan, Abraham would've been the only one Negan killed. 1 person for over dozens of people seems unfair for the people who lost the dozens of people. If only Rick and the group saw it that way.
Rick: Finds a community, takes over, fucks up, lots of people die. REPEAT Negen: Finds many communitys, takes over, gets order, one person per cumminity dies, everyone has a job they hate and a boss they hate even more (as is life) but they are relatively safe, Then Rick shows up and it all goes to shit and lots of people die. Whos the asshole Rick or Negan?
How many times rick is tell negan im gonna kill you, just do it already lol. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, maybe not after breakfast, maybe not after 3 more seasons, but i will kill you lol
well negan did start it all... beforehand they were trying to live peacefully, taking in survivors, taking out threats from clearly evil people with evil intentions, no matter what negan does, I always remember the start. rick squad all the way
Music Letters I swear if I have to repeat this one more time... Protagonist=main character; antagonist=person who goes against main character. Doesn’t matter which one is good and which one is bad
At first, I thought Negan's reaction would be something like, "Well....hehe... That shit must suck, Rick!", but damn.... was I wrong. This scene hit me really hard.
[marbardan] Negan > Rick. Rick has no soul left anymore. He is a mindless killing machine now. Rick started all this by ambushing the Savior’s camps and murdering the people in the sanctuary in their sleep. How long before we see Rick is the villian? How long did it take us to figure out Walter White aka Heisenberg had become a bad guy? The show tune our minds to make us think the main characters are the good guys. That’s not how plot points work anymore.
Morghann spoiler warning!!!!! ⚠️ Maggie takes a wile to forgive Negan, but she does, but rick is the hard head. The garden scene is foreshadowing, Negan becomes a good guy, and helps out. There is still tension though for wile, especially with rick and Negan. But then again, there isn’t much peace in the future either.
Because he got some form of closure (as in he was there when carl died) and hes reacting to Carls death in a more violent "i dont care what happens too me anymore" way (ex: when he wasted ammo trying to kill negan and started a fire whilst also surrounded by walkers)
No negan has always had that moral compass of not hurting children and he was never gonna harm Carl..He had even said that he played that counting game for fun,and he already had his targets selected
Ruben Hernandez Jesus Christ, it’s amazing how delusional you people are. Negan is sadistic and insane. He ruled with oppression and tyranny, and bashed in the brains of any group that disobeyed or refused to kneel to him. Holy shit
If Rick forgives Negan, it is because he will be honoring carl's last wish. Besides, I cant think of a worst punishment for Negan than being one of the last survivors on a planet, where more than half of the inhabitants are dead and the ones that remain alive will probably hate him for the rest of their lives.
Carl’s death was the one that ticked me off. It was heartbreaking for Glenn and when Carl died it was the point in the show where my favorite character died. I started watching with family and they got annoyed so I started and continued watching by myself. I stay cuz of Judith and (now Maggie) but Carl was the future of the show (he was the future in the comics too!!) and they made a BIG MISTAKE 😭 rip
It'sJustCasey psh...so did the governor and the people at terminus and the cops that killed beth. Negan is a piece. The several wives, the bowing, branding people, killing scared people in a brutal fashion in front of family and friends, locking people nude in a closet and feeding them dog food to easy street all day, and stole mattress for no other reason than to burn them. He never cared for carl. At one point he threatened to cut out his other eye and feed it to Rick. He executed people on there knees with a bat. Negan and people like him are the problem. Yea negan cares so much!!
I actually respect Negan in this scene, he could’ve laughed or did something evil, especially when Rick said imma kill you, Negan’s response was “how did it happen”. Negan is a lot of things but he did admire Carl, & he would’ve kill someone in his group if he found out it was one of them.
Negan upset cause he knows He knows EXCATLY what it's like to lose someone And a kid, no doudt Negan always wanted a kid as well and saw the future in Carl to maybe make a better than what Negan could ever make or even Rick God this hurts
Dave Hron dude...she did RIGHT when it happened She turned into a walker and didnt have the strenght to kill her He not only lost her to cancer, but had to see her corpse come back to life to try and kill him He mentions it on the show And if you read the comics you would know
we all wish that tbh. That's why most of us were just rolling with this all out war part in the show so that way we could get to the badass Carl whisper wars stuff. Thanks Scott Gimple. Carl literally talks like Negan and even nearly beats 2 kids to death with a shovel and in the comic it looks identical to when Negan killed Glenn. Sorry if any of you are also into the comics and know all this already lol. Just bummed we'll never get to see that now...
Savage Wraith I wanted to see Carl almost beat two kids to death with a shovel and I was curious as to how Lydia was gonna play because he's with Enid. Welp rip, I gave up on the show anyway
I’ll be honest, I like what they did with Carls death. It showed us a whole new rick. What I didn’t like thought was that less than a season later rick is off the show.. making Carl’s death and essentially his whole character useless in the scope of the whole show
This might’ve been the last episode I watched. Idk anybody personally that still watches the show that used to watch it either. Once they kill most of the characters you cared for, you can’t continue caring for the show anymore. Also, it’s not about the zombies and their mysterious origin anymore. It’s just about groups fighting against other groups.
I think Negan really cared about Carl on some level. He did use to work with kids, right? And I could see the guilt when he asked if it was the saviors who killed him.
I believe this Negan started out as a Gym Teacher, so yeah, he was working with kids or teens at least. I know the Negan in the comics was a Car Dealer or something though.
Dude, Negan wanted to have Carl as a son, he is all he invisioned for a kid to come out of him, as he says in the comics: "I can't tell you how much i like that kid, i never had kids myself but if i had one i would want him to be just like Carl, a kid with B A L L Z"
Negan is pretty much a psychopath, his sense of morals and sympathy arent going to be very relatable or make "sense". He can like someone while still being a complete dick to them or even kill them. Point is, he is egocentric. He only sympathizes because he himself liked the kid and had "plans" for him, not much else.
Rosefinity He wanted to pull the same shit he did where he almost forced rick to chop carls arm off To break down Rick's sanity and make him more respectful and obedient If you read the comics neagan really cares for carl he wants him to grow up because he believed that carl would be an excellent leader for the Saviors since carl has the same point of view to the world just different ways to deal with things (neagan relies on fear to control everything but carl relies on peace and trust) So there was no way neagen would ever hurt someone who had nothing to do with the conflict they have between them specialy if they have a relation with each other
You can actually tell Negan really cared about Carl. Feels even like if Negan felt it more than rick. Negan loved Carl. Even when Carl told him to stop when Carl was on top of the sanctuary that he wouldn’t mind dying to save everyone, Negan wanted to cry.
J Doss -- And during that scene, he also says that if he had a kid, he wished they could have been just like Carl. Then he says he likes him, and that he's going to try and do a mercy killing. Killing him as fast as he could. Look, Negan is pissed for being ambushed in that scene. Everything goes to hell for him, and out of anger... Negan signals Carl out. There's a similar moment in the comics too. Negan demands Carl to be thrown over Alexandria's walls because he wants to punish Carl. But after he makes that threat, he kinda laughs and admires the boy's defiance. Even if Negan were to kill Carl, Negan would have had intense regret/remorse. He doesn't want to kill a kid. He's not that monstrous. He still has a respect for kids since his days as a teacher. So, I wouldn't take that scene as is. There's a lot to interpret once you learn more about Negan.
Carl's gone, Rick's mia, and now, the writers are hinting that Darryl next to go, and if that happens, amc is gonna have a war on their hands. I'm glad I quit the show before Carl died, cause from what I've heard, its gonna get worse, alot worse.
TheFierceWolf I don't think Simon will allow that shit to happen to him Simon's character is to badass for that trash. Epically him being Trevor Phillips he would be the one doing the ironing. Besides he did the right thing that garbage people are constantly changing sides and spitting BUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLLLSHIIIIIT!!! they could not be trusted
+Solid Snake lol that was funny when he said "BUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLLLSHIIIIIT!!!" I hated The Garbage Freaks. They talked like cave men and switched sides as you said. They deserved being mown down. Even if Simon doesn't make it out alive, I will forever thank him for destroying those freaks! He did a good job. I applaud him.
yea coffee Carl didn't kill himself. Negan cares cause he was the future and was a badass. And Rick told Negan cause his only dead son gave him a letter to Negan which Rick's plan was to read it to him but instead he got pissed cause he's been fighting in a war lost many people and oh yeah his son
It's the Negan and Carl relationship, like it was in the comic books. If you paid attention, he never truly harmed Carl. It's just how they work, Carl was the one person Negan wouldn't kill :(
In the comics it was different, Negan said he was "the future", he didn't want to harm the kid. The show just takes different turns, and that was probably to make people find it more interesting.
Its about the paycheck. He turned 21 or something then he would ask for more compensation legally speaking. Something like that. So the showrunners killed him instead.
Just my thoughts that I had after watching this episode: We don't know what goes on through Negan's head. We don't know what goes on through Rick's head. Both of them are rash and make decisions we don't always see coming or understand. But we do know that Negan genuinely like Carl. He did. And it makes me wonder, after seeing him initially react to the news, and before Rick says it doesn't matter and he wants to kill him, if Negan would have agreed and said "okay lets talk." I can't help but think that Rick's decision to stay hostile caused the rest of the conversation and the inevitable continuation of this 'war.' Not to say the Negan is suddenly on board for peace, but it just looked like he was truly thinking of Carl and his request.
Pretty sure the idea is to make it so both parties are in the wrong so the war doesn't seem as ridiculous. In the comics, the entire war comes to a conclusion because in a dramatic and exilerating turn of events... Rick tells Negan he's wrong and Negan realizes he's right. That's it, that's what ended this whole conflict. In the show, they're trying to make it so the conclusion couldn't just have happened at any random time. Rick has to be wrong too, so that later he can realize it, change, and then convince Negan to change too. That could have happened in this scene, like you said, but Rick wasn't ready for it just yet.
I have never watched the season completely starting from season 6. I wouldn’t judge this situation, Im just guessing here. Negan probably grant Rick’s wish, but Negan will probably say something before he kills Negan and probably changed Rick’s mind. Because Carl wants peace, and Rick’s mentality right now is to kill Negan and doesn’t really grant Carl’s request. Im guessing that this war will be over after this season ends (duh). Some will die obviously but we don’t know who.
I know Rick and his people literally stormed the savior compound at night and slaughtered everyone. Because of talking to people they met? That could've been a workers place like the sanctuary.
TheGreatKhan Actually, Negan's people started it in episode 9 of season 6. Daryl, Sasha and Abraham met a few of them. They told them, that they "have" to kill one of the three and the other two had to bring them to Alexandria. They almost killed Sasha or Abraham, but Daryl saved them. Negan would've done the same thing to Alexandria, as they did to Hiltop and the Kingdom. So yeah... Negan isn't really the good guy here.
Negan is one of the most well written villains let alone characters in the history of tv shows and I genuinely mean it. He is constantly making us question if we should like him or not, constantly doing things to make us hate him then turning us back around on it. We really can't tell if he's truly an awful person, insane, or what. He is a brutal killer but he also has empathy and believes in a world with a system of rules. He has a heart. He seriously respects Rick even though he's his enemy, and had a great respect for Carl. He felt bad for Rick too, he really did. We know we should hate him but he's do damn charismatic and he has actual feelings. This is thanks to the writers and Jeffrey Dean Morgan I'm sure, it's just so perfectly done and acted. He is incredibly complex, and the fact that he reacted this way to Carl makes me so much more interested in him.
Galactic Jewels I just hope they wont make Negan look like a big joke in the end just like what happened to Ben in the tv series LOST...Ben was a scary villain at the start of that series then went on became a joke in the final seasons lol..
One thing we know about Rick, if he promises he's going to kill you, rest assured he means it. As Gareth found out on the receiving end of a red handled Machete. So Negan is seriously fucked.
Rose R. Honestly. Idk. Morgan does have a jail. And The "my mercy prevails over my wrath" thing. Maybe Rick will let Negan live. For Carl's memory. Idk. We have to wait and see.
I'm really happy Rick didn't kill Negan, he's my favourite character! I hated him in season 7/8 and now i love him, just goes to show what an amazing actor he is!
*The comics:* Let's make the following Carl's arcs about him learning some sociopath surviving skills from Negan and sort of becoming his badass 2.0 version and also the two of them become great friends *The series:* Haha zombie on Carl go bitebite
i mean the comic book series does have negan being caputured by rick and i think carl's letters weighs a lot on ricks decision to spare negan's life in the end. then again the show doesn't always follow the comic book series either.
The reason Carl died was FOR Negan to live. Scott Gimple literally said he couldn't find a reason Rick would let Negan live like in the comics. But if Carl's last wish was part of sparing his life, Rick would come to honor that.
TheNextWriter the biggest hint that he has come to a conclusion that HE WON'T KILL NEGAN is because he said something along the lines like: "my mercy prevails over my wrath". This totally leads on to his decision to spare Negan' s life. Although we may have thought that Rick was pertaining to Carl after burying him, he said that right when he had an inflicted wound.
This right here is why I love negan. You can argue that he is a psychopath like the governor but in reality, negan is caring and compassionate and looks out for his people.
I love the character of Negan. The actor is great. But I love how Negan, if you dig under a few layers, is actually a good, compassionate, and caring individual. He's a great example of how both power corrupts, and how a cruel world can turn even the honourable, into the ruthless.
“That kid was the future”
Someone should’ve told the writers that
Nah I'm dead💀💀😭😭😭
@@jeremiahtejeda4174 no carl is
He really was the next rick😐
Moo
Memento mori
I feel like if Negan’s people were involved in Carl’s death, Negan would have killed whoever was responsible
Fuck yeah he would. I mean he did kill one of his for rape attempt
Except he almost killed Carl himself just a few episodes prior soooo... no
@@milliemei3885 almost being the key word
@@KanekiKen-lm1dl He was inches away from his skull and only stopped because Shiva attacked someone
@@milliemei3885 still he didn’t kill him so you don’t know how he would feel afterwards
The walking dead dropped the ball they should have developed the Negan Carl relationship more
@WillFanofMany They did more than the show lmfao. Carl talking with Negan in his cell constantly and even showed signs of still continuing to talk to him after his exile.
@@SoapWasTaken blame gimple for firing chandler 2 weeks after telling him they wanted him for 3 more years.
@WillFanofMany The comic actually did. When Carl frequently visits Negan in his cell and has talks with him.
They have Judith and Lydia now
countbleck35 what a damn troll
“it wasn’t you, it was these damn writers... It was Scott Gimple”
Its Jardo I read that in ricks voice hahhaa
hahahahahaha... that was lit as fuck
LOL
I hate him 😭😭
Fucking Scott Gimple
Negan knew Carl had both the compassion as well as the ruthlessness in equal measure necessary to build a new future.
He was the one destined to bring balance to the force?
The Q Man yeah man he should destroy the walkers...not join them
Weltraumpräsidentsuperstar MChammergeil he didn't have the high ground
Weltraumpräsidentsuperstar MChammergeil lol that was gold my dude
ruthlessness? carl?
Andrew Lincolns eyes throughout the series. The man is such a great actor that he showed us fear, anger, pain and happiness with his eyes. Every scenario was captured in his eyes. He's up there with the best of them.
@@nunbua nah bro it fits his character and who he is
@@nunbua most definitely
Yes
Absolutely he’s definitely one of the best actors on the show and there could not have been a better choice for someone to play Rick. People do complain that he isn’t the same as the comics, looks different and still has his arm, but I’m okay with that. Comic Rick is great too but I like Show Rick just a tad bit more solely because of how good Lincoln’s acting is. Can’t wait for the Rick Grimes movies. Considering that they are taking so long to release them I’m expecting them to be great.
@@Crow__007 the best*
Carl shouldn’t have died. There was so much more he was going to do
@Shaun A He wasn't expecting to be killed, he bought a house in Atlanta just before they told him lol
Shaun A
Yeah well. Now he’s playing GTA5RP as Carl Crimes
It was just a lame form to kill carl,also with beth, abraham,andrea and other people in the series,oh I also forgot to mention GLENN.
Tiara Monique Chandler didnt do it for college. He wanted to stay. His dad tried to get him to stay. He bought a house in Atlanta so he could be closer to set. Gimple fired him a week before his 18th birthday.
luis rodriguez Beth and Andrea yes. Abraham, maybe? But for Glenn, no, he was meant to die.
Negan is more upset than Carol or Maggie. This show is not what it used to be.
They reacted how I'd expect them to react after all the shit they've been through. What did you expect them to do? Have a breakdown? Enid did that because she's still a young girl and she liked Carl.
Andrew Markus And there is Negan, a psychopath who bashes heads with a baseball bat, who feels sorry for the boy who is his enemy, the boy who he barely knew.
Oskari Häkkinen the boy he saw as a son.
Oskari Häkkinen he saw a large area of jobs he had for him an enforcer and maybe even takeover once negan died
Oskari negan isn’t psycho
You failed Rick
Nice name
lmao no
At least, you fed him spaghetti
I liked you better than Rick.
I never knew that negan likes to watch dragon ball 😂😂
That conversation between Protagonist and Antagonist was pure gold and saved the whole episode!
What did you like the meat paste scene lol
The Consolian o
The whole episode was good
The whole episode was brilliant ya fanny
The Consolian this was a great episode. The Rick part of this argument was the worst part of it lol.
Negan: that kid...that kid was the future
Rick: THE ONLY FUTURE IS ONE WHERE YOURE DEAD
Negan: ..okay ni**a damn
LMFAO
Negan is prolly just butt hurt and saying to himself. "Damn it, now who's gonna eat my spaghetti?"
Bruh 🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
This the kinda comment a neckbeard makes when they find out they're 0.01% black 😂
The "failed as a father" later in the call
Biggest roast of 2018 so far
Morgan Lemons Nigga your like in every anime comment section but now I see you here 😤😤😤
I give up. The only explanation for this phenomenon is...
A) You're a bot masquerading as a user, whose sole purpose is a barrage the comments section of any remotely popular video
B) You are an omnipresent Lemon who seeks to warn humanity of our oncoming demise.
C) You're just some random dude who has a good taste in videos and actively comments on a more than consistent basis.
My bet is letter "B"
well I guess carl is gone bye bye now that is for real
WTF YOU'RE EVERYWHERE!!!!
Morgan Lemons but rick came back with a bigger roast, (literally) by burning Lucille.
Yo rick has completely lost it. Negan being really compassionate and friendly and rick over here being angry and going against Carl's wishes
????? The fuck where the hell is your mind set at A Sall? Lol did u watch the show? You couldn’t have.. Negan humiliated, killed, made slaves out of Rick and several other people.. Rick loses his son bc of the war and Negan shows some “respect” and bc of that Rick is suppose to be cool and compassionate back gtfoh you had to be trolling typing that hahaha
Moe Lester, But who started it first? Rick, obviously. If Rick minded his own damn business, this shit wouldn't have happened. Those deaths were in Rick’s hands. Negan killed Glenn(Darly’sfault) and Abraham as an acted of mercy. Rick killed more of Negan’s men.
Bruh Rick literally started it first, remember when he killed that entire savior base WHILE THEY WERE SLEEPING? Negan killed Glenn and Abraham for that. 2 people in exchange for what, 30? I love Rick but I mean he's pretty brutal too.
Rick has lost friends because of Negan, His son, these people were his family and Negan was the man who took them away from Rick. I can tell you have lived a life where people never hurt you after the loss of a loved one, and the reason they hurt you was that they could. When you have that level of pain in you and someone is the reason for that pain. There is no such thing as "compassion". Like it was said, "you can not reason with the tiger when your head is in it's mouth", and Negan has been the soul driving force of evil up to this point.
If Daryl didn't punch Negan, Abraham would've been the only one Negan killed. 1 person for over dozens of people seems unfair for the people who lost the dozens of people. If only Rick and the group saw it that way.
“The only future is one where you’re dead!”
Damn. Rick’s done playing.
said that multiples times but yet, he keeps loosing people lol
crunk4124
But still, the way he says it just shows how he’s fed up with this bullshit now and he’ll make sure Negan dies
Shadow of Dread DID YOU SEE THE BEARD!? LOL!
Rick: Finds a community, takes over, fucks up, lots of people die. REPEAT
Negen: Finds many communitys, takes over, gets order, one person per cumminity dies, everyone has a job they hate and a boss they hate even more (as is life) but they are relatively safe, Then Rick shows up and it all goes to shit and lots of people die.
Whos the asshole Rick or Negan?
Gregory Smith
Hard to actually kill someone when they are protected by a huge army but yeah, I see your point.
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"It wasn't YOU..."
"Goddamnit."
they cut it. it was after rick said "he got bit"
@@richardchavez1760 I think it's a joke
@@richardchavez1760 lmfao I thought that was unedited
@@richardchavez1760 Yes no shit genius
How many times rick is tell negan im gonna kill you, just do it already lol. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, maybe not after breakfast, maybe not after 3 more seasons, but i will kill you lol
Lol 😂
Sarah St. Martin The funny thing is Rick is gonna die by season 9 and I am gonna live forever with my bitch Daryl who's got a big salary bump .
MightyMouseFTW Why do you even care?
@@The_Quiet_Kiddo wtf man get a life seriously
@@nina_4800 Calm the fuck down it's a little joke. "Get a life" lol.
at this point it is really difficult to say who is proatgonist and who is antagonist...
Music Letters Rick wants revenge, can't see him as antagonist but negan well.,....
Both are protagonist and antagonists
Someone's "bad" guy is another person's "good" guy you can never really say someone is bad.
well negan did start it all... beforehand they were trying to live peacefully, taking in survivors, taking out threats from clearly evil people with evil intentions, no matter what negan does, I always remember the start.
rick squad all the way
Music Letters I swear if I have to repeat this one more time... Protagonist=main character; antagonist=person who goes against main character. Doesn’t matter which one is good and which one is bad
Negan: *thought out response*
Rick: “No u”
Agnes XD
"rick"
I feel like negan was talking for the show writers.
Talking for the audience too😖
Negan truly cared about Carl and was clearly devastated when he learned about his death. He was a great antihero.
More of an antivillain.
He was not an antihero lol
How did he care about Carl he tried to make his dad cut his arm off, And he tried to kill him twice he would have succeeded if it wasn't for shiva
At first, I thought Negan's reaction would be something like, "Well....hehe... That shit must suck, Rick!", but damn.... was I wrong. This scene hit me really hard.
[marbardan] Negan > Rick. Rick has no soul left anymore. He is a mindless killing machine now. Rick started all this by ambushing the Savior’s camps and murdering the people
in the sanctuary in their sleep. How long before we see Rick is the villian? How long did it take us to figure out Walter White aka Heisenberg had become a bad guy? The show tune our minds to make us think the main characters are the good guys. That’s not how plot points work anymore.
[marbardan] That's because Negan genuinely liked Carl.
[marbardan] negan really liked carl, same in the comics
You forgot that negan started this first? With this "give us the half of your shit or we will kill you"?
Yaroslav K. Actually rick started this first, they slaughtered the whole satellite outpost and negan retaliated
I really want Carl's "Vision" to come true in which Negans the nice, greybearded gardener.
The Consolian I don’t think Maggie will stand seeing him chill around Hill Top.
Morghann spoiler warning!!!!! ⚠️
Maggie takes a wile to forgive Negan, but she does, but rick is the hard head. The garden scene is foreshadowing, Negan becomes a good guy, and helps out. There is still tension though for wile, especially with rick and Negan. But then again, there isn’t much peace in the future either.
Have you read the comic?
The shit is fucking retarded in the comic. If they do that one the show, it will be a death sentence.
I am not growing a garden
Why does rick handle his sons death better than Lori’s ?
Gypsy Princess he's more used to it now
He's a lot stronger now
He came to grips with carls death last season. during all out war.
He wasn't there when Lori died, but he was there for Carl.
Because he got some form of closure (as in he was there when carl died) and hes reacting to Carls death in a more violent "i dont care what happens too me anymore" way (ex: when he wasted ammo trying to kill negan and started a fire whilst also surrounded by walkers)
Has everyone just forgotten that Negan was about to take Carl's head off with Lucille before he was stopped?
He didn't want to. He was doing it to punish Rick.
No negan has always had that moral compass of not hurting children and he was never gonna harm Carl..He had even said that he played that counting game for fun,and he already had his targets selected
gagandeep singh I think your getting confused with the Abraham and Glenn thing that’s what he thought out If I remember correctly
Ruben Hernandez Jesus Christ, it’s amazing how delusional you people are. Negan is sadistic and insane. He ruled with oppression and tyranny, and bashed in the brains of any group that disobeyed or refused to kneel to him. Holy shit
gagandeep singh He was literally about to kill Carl with a bat in season 7. He was mid swing. He was going to do it.
You can see Negan felt bad for Rick, he respected Carl.
no name yes and almost bashed his head in with a bat, but that’s what we do to people we respect right?
no name yes he did
Chop Clinton Only as punishment ffs. Not like he didnt want to.
Jurassic Productions +
Chop Clinton it was a punishment, he didn't wanted to kill him.
If Rick forgives Negan, it is because he will be honoring carl's last wish. Besides, I cant think of a worst punishment for Negan than being one of the last survivors on a planet, where more than half of the inhabitants are dead and the ones that remain alive will probably hate him for the rest of their lives.
Lol, one of the last survivors on the planet where half the people are dead? That is quite a bit of survivors...
Ge@r&@rcher if he lives he will obviously eventually escape, maybe not like in the comics, but he will
Zach lets hope he learns a valuable lesson before that.
Ge@r&@rcher it probably building up over what happened in the comics where Rick spared negan
Ge@r&@rcher I hope Carl’s wish comes true
Great fucking edit
Negan: was it the grenades
Rick: It wasn’t you
Negan: goddamn it
Lol
lmao
"I wanted him to be part of things..."
Carl’s death was the one that ticked me off. It was heartbreaking for Glenn and when Carl died it was the point in the show where my favorite character died. I started watching with family and they got annoyed so I started and continued watching by myself. I stay cuz of Judith and (now Maggie) but Carl was the future of the show (he was the future in the comics too!!) and they made a BIG MISTAKE 😭 rip
I knowwwww I cried so much when he died I just did not believe it, my eye were so puffy
Well its 2020 you cant have a white male lead a show anymore.
@@ajdinyavuz7575 It's 2021.
@@ajdinyavuz7575 shut the fuck up and don't bring race into shit
@@ok-lf3rs he's not wrong tho. Have you seen the latest development in the show. Looks like a fortnite game now.
He made him spaghetti....Jesus Rick.
If homemade spaghet is not a sign of care and love I don't know what is.
somebody touched Negan's spaghet!
Mom's spaghetti is much better lol
Negan has heart , believe it or not , he has one. If I was Rick I would just obey carl's last wish
It'sJustCasey psh...so did the governor and the people at terminus and the cops that killed beth. Negan is a piece. The several wives, the bowing, branding people, killing scared people in a brutal fashion in front of family and friends, locking people nude in a closet and feeding them dog food to easy street all day, and stole mattress for no other reason than to burn them.
He never cared for carl. At one point he threatened to cut out his other eye and feed it to Rick.
He executed people on there knees with a bat. Negan and people like him are the problem.
Yea negan cares so much!!
Negan also killed Glenn and Abraham how's that a good heart??
Crack Jokes and rick killed tone of his man before that
Crack Jokes but Rick killed his men first are we forgetting and leaving that important piece out...
It'sJustCasey Yep its just me
pretty tragic considering how much of a badass carl was set to become with the whole whisperer storyline
I actually respect Negan in this scene, he could’ve laughed or did something evil, especially when Rick said imma kill you, Negan’s response was “how did it happen”. Negan is a lot of things but he did admire Carl, & he would’ve kill someone in his group if he found out it was one of them.
Loved this scene. The way Negan was taken back by the news and how shitty he would've felt if it was from his guys.
Negan was one of the only adults on this show that saw Carl as more than just a kid.
I feel like Carl was the true weakness of Negan, everytime someone mentioned his name he would flinch
But Negan was half a second from killing Carl. Shiva saved the day!
It just sucked that you didn’t even see Carol, Maggie or Daryl flinch when they heard
Negan really care about Carl but NEGAN had to say what he said that Rick jack.it up AGAIN wrong move Negan
Pamela Taylor VERY WRONG MOVE NEGAN
I mean Rick wasnt being mean lololol
Pamela Taylor removes hair from walkers and wears wig weaves from them
Negan cares about Carl ? *Negan tried to kill Carl* with his bat last season finale. That cheesy scene makes no sense
he didnt want to, but had to make a point...i dont care about cheesy it is what it is, plus its in the past now...carls dead either way
Negan upset cause he knows
He knows EXCATLY what it's like to lose someone
And a kid, no doudt Negan always wanted a kid as well and saw the future in Carl to maybe make a better than what Negan could ever make or even Rick
God this hurts
Hallofang he lost his wife lucille before apocalypse
Dave Hron dude...she did RIGHT when it happened
She turned into a walker and didnt have the strenght to kill her
He not only lost her to cancer, but had to see her corpse come back to life to try and kill him
He mentions it on the show
And if you read the comics you would know
Well Almost everyone has lost someone..... it’s the apacolypse
One of the rare best moments in a dying TV show. If it were more like this throughout, more people would be tuning in!
This officially one of my favorite scenes of all 8 seasons!
Rick - "...I'm gonna kill you."
Negan - "Rick, please focus on the melodrama at hand in this episode."
Rick!!! keep you shit all together!!!!!
Jeffrey was pretty sad they couldnt continue the Carl-negan friendship like in the comics
yep
we all wish that tbh. That's why most of us were just rolling with this all out war part in the show so that way we could get to the badass Carl whisper wars stuff. Thanks Scott Gimple. Carl literally talks like Negan and even nearly beats 2 kids to death with a shovel and in the comic it looks identical to when Negan killed Glenn. Sorry if any of you are also into the comics and know all this already lol. Just bummed we'll never get to see that now...
I think they did that to throw comic fans off their trail cause now we don't know how whisper wars will start.
He was pretty upset about it, and that genuinely shows in this scene.
Savage Wraith I wanted to see Carl almost beat two kids to death with a shovel and I was curious as to how Lydia was gonna play because he's with Enid. Welp rip, I gave up on the show anyway
I love the fact negan cares so much to ask how he died and he was the future
Lol
the thumbnail on this made me have to recompose myself from laughing so hard.
Should've stayed in the house, Coral
He saved a doctor and then that doctor went on to save everyone else, including Negan. Carl's death wasn't a total waste.
But it was strange af the way he died, he had already passed through much worse hordes of walkers than the one that killed him
Carl*
احمد زيد that’s how rick says his name, cooorrraaallll!!!
Cane here to laugh for your comment! 😂😂😂
It is like they are becoming best friends..lol
Carl died so Judith could kill the show.
Godspeed, you beautiful one-eyed Troll.
Judith is Now the Future R.I.P Carl ... Now little ass kicker has to take over
Yeah I fucking hate this show don't know why I still watch it only characters I care about are Daryl and negan I also like Jerry
Wrong. He died in this show cause he wanted his sister to do what he wanted for this future.
Not even close, TWD is better than ever right now
I’ll be honest, I like what they did with Carls death. It showed us a whole new rick. What I didn’t like thought was that less than a season later rick is off the show.. making Carl’s death and essentially his whole character useless in the scope of the whole show
Carl is Negan favorite from the beginning. He was the boy who got the ball to defend his dad on Rick Gang Slaughtered episode
Yea but he won't miss him anymore. He's got Judith now. And in Negan's words "she is just as much of a badass as Carl was"
@@tommymoodie2157 thats so funny and cute bahahah little ass kicker
AND... he fed him spaghetti
Rick is turning back into season 5 Rick which I love 😍
This might’ve been the last episode I watched. Idk anybody personally that still watches the show that used to watch it either. Once they kill most of the characters you cared for, you can’t continue caring for the show anymore. Also, it’s not about the zombies and their mysterious origin anymore. It’s just about groups fighting against other groups.
Negan says Carl was the future, after he had already tried to kill him.
@Andrew Ybarra He was seconds away from smashing Carl's head, until the tiger showed up.
I think Negan really cared about Carl on some level. He did use to work with kids, right? And I could see the guilt when he asked if it was the saviors who killed him.
I believe this Negan started out as a Gym Teacher, so yeah, he was working with kids or teens at least. I know the Negan in the comics was a Car Dealer or something though.
Dude, Negan wanted to have Carl as a son, he is all he invisioned for a kid to come out of him, as he says in the comics:
"I can't tell you how much i like that kid, i never had kids myself but if i had one i would want him to be just like Carl, a kid with B A L L Z"
Malakar Von Stroheim he said something similar in the show too, something like "if I had a kid, i'd want him to be just like you (Carl)"
Malakar Von Stroheim Here comes dat boi
This scene literally made me see negan in a whole new light
episodes before:
Negan : I don't care about this boy I'm going to kill him
after
Negan: oh my gosh, i am so devastated about the boys death
Negan: "Damn it, now who's gonna eat my spaghetti?"
Right here when Rick was talking about how it doesn’t matter it gave me flashbacks to the Governor when he was outside the prison.
If he cared so much about Carl then why did he try to kill him last season unless he was just bluffing
Master Of Disguise it was a bluff
He would have smashed Corals head if it weren't for Shiva
It was just a prank bro
He liked Carl. Doesn't mean he wouldn't kill Carl
Negan is pretty much a psychopath, his sense of morals and sympathy arent going to be very relatable or make "sense".
He can like someone while still being a complete dick to them or even kill them.
Point is, he is egocentric. He only sympathizes because he himself liked the kid and had "plans" for him, not much else.
>"I had plans, that kid was the future"
Literally 6 episodes ago you were gonna bash his head in
Haha
you do pay attention to the show right?
Exactly what I was thinking, he would have killed Corral himself, if they didn't get rescued the very last moment.
Rosefinity
He wanted to pull the same shit he did where he almost forced rick to chop carls arm off
To break down Rick's sanity and make him more respectful and obedient
If you read the comics neagan really cares for carl he wants him to grow up because he believed that carl would be an excellent leader for the Saviors since carl has the same point of view to the world just different ways to deal with things
(neagan relies on fear to control everything but carl relies on peace and trust)
So there was no way neagen would ever hurt someone who had nothing to do with the conflict they have between them specialy if they have a relation with each other
I love how Negan genuinely cares that COOOORRRRAAAAAL is dead. His had a soft spot for him, and it breaks mah heart.
I legit cried when I saw Negan tearing up
The is the rick I’ve been waiting for
I'm a chicken you mean the same Rick who got his face fucked by the governor and by negan?
Reign I think he means the rick that never backs down no matter what
Throat Ripping Rick has returned.
the final thing we need now is his BEARRRRRRD
Stephan Wackman The beard is getting bigger. And the jacket returns
You can actually tell Negan really cared about Carl. Feels even like if Negan felt it more than rick. Negan loved Carl. Even when Carl told him to stop when Carl was on top of the sanctuary that he wouldn’t mind dying to save everyone, Negan wanted to cry.
Yet he was going to bash Carl's head in
J Doss 🤷🏻♀️
J Doss -- And during that scene, he also says that if he had a kid, he wished they could have been just like Carl. Then he says he likes him, and that he's going to try and do a mercy killing. Killing him as fast as he could.
Look, Negan is pissed for being ambushed in that scene. Everything goes to hell for him, and out of anger... Negan signals Carl out. There's a similar moment in the comics too. Negan demands Carl to be thrown over Alexandria's walls because he wants to punish Carl. But after he makes that threat, he kinda laughs and admires the boy's defiance.
Even if Negan were to kill Carl, Negan would have had intense regret/remorse. He doesn't want to kill a kid. He's not that monstrous. He still has a respect for kids since his days as a teacher. So, I wouldn't take that scene as is. There's a lot to interpret once you learn more about Negan.
Mallory Carll well put 👏🏼
J Doss He was bluffing, dumbass.
Carl's gone, Rick's mia, and now, the writers are hinting that Darryl next to go, and if that happens, amc is gonna have a war on their hands. I'm glad I quit the show before Carl died, cause from what I've heard, its gonna get worse, alot worse.
True true
You don’t even know the half of it.
Daryl too?!
the thumbnail of this video and the fact it says edit in the title made me think this was going to go way differently lmao
What do you guys think will happen if Negan finds out that Simon and his man mowed down the entire group of garbage people?
Lucille or The Iron?
TheFierceWolf I don't think Simon will allow that shit to happen to him Simon's character is to badass for that trash. Epically him being Trevor Phillips he would be the one doing the ironing. Besides he did the right thing that garbage people are constantly changing sides and spitting BUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLLLSHIIIIIT!!! they could not be trusted
Lucille
+Solid Snake lol that was funny when he said "BUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLLLSHIIIIIT!!!" I hated The Garbage Freaks. They talked like cave men and switched sides as you said. They deserved being mown down. Even if Simon doesn't make it out alive, I will forever thank him for destroying those freaks! He did a good job. I applaud him.
The Consolian oh he’lol definitely find out and when he does, Simons dead.
The Consolian lucille simon wont make it to season9
Negan feel sorry about carl ):
yea coffee Carl didn't kill himself. Negan cares cause he was the future and was a badass. And Rick told Negan cause his only dead son gave him a letter to Negan which Rick's plan was to read it to him but instead he got pissed cause he's been fighting in a war lost many people and oh yeah his son
It's the Negan and Carl relationship, like it was in the comic books. If you paid attention, he never truly harmed Carl. It's just how they work, Carl was the one person Negan wouldn't kill :(
Negan was fond of Carl. They were pretty close.
Bish I'm- Too Lazy To Finish This lol he was about kill carl when that Tiger hadnt interrupted.
In the comics it was different, Negan said he was "the future", he didn't want to harm the kid. The show just takes different turns, and that was probably to make people find it more interesting.
0:39 I heard the first two beats of that song and thought it would be the song on the title screen from Telltale's TWD S2.
Season 9 would be so much better if Carl was still alive. He could of took over from his fathers footsteps. Why did they kill him off ffs 😭
Because the character is a piece of sh*t. Always has been.
Its about the paycheck. He turned 21 or something then he would ask for more compensation legally speaking. Something like that. So the showrunners killed him instead.
@@relaxhappysadboy8275 no they actually killed him off because they wanted to go another route. Chandler didn't want to leave, he was forced out.
@@toddsmith1969 what route?
@@relaxhappysadboy8275 not following the comics clearly.
Just my thoughts that I had after watching this episode:
We don't know what goes on through Negan's head. We don't know what goes on through Rick's head. Both of them are rash and make decisions we don't always see coming or understand. But we do know that Negan genuinely like Carl. He did. And it makes me wonder, after seeing him initially react to the news, and before Rick says it doesn't matter and he wants to kill him, if Negan would have agreed and said "okay lets talk." I can't help but think that Rick's decision to stay hostile caused the rest of the conversation and the inevitable continuation of this 'war.' Not to say the Negan is suddenly on board for peace, but it just looked like he was truly thinking of Carl and his request.
MsBananahsplit Yeah, and Negan was just about to start growing a garden, too. lol.
Pretty sure the idea is to make it so both parties are in the wrong so the war doesn't seem as ridiculous. In the comics, the entire war comes to a conclusion because in a dramatic and exilerating turn of events... Rick tells Negan he's wrong and Negan realizes he's right. That's it, that's what ended this whole conflict.
In the show, they're trying to make it so the conclusion couldn't just have happened at any random time. Rick has to be wrong too, so that later he can realize it, change, and then convince Negan to change too. That could have happened in this scene, like you said, but Rick wasn't ready for it just yet.
I gotta say, negan is a damn good character and i really like the comic version of him. And they did a good job on the show!
TWD turned to shit when it became a normie show.
I have never watched the season completely starting from season 6. I wouldn’t judge this situation, Im just guessing here. Negan probably grant Rick’s wish, but Negan will probably say something before he kills Negan and probably changed Rick’s mind. Because Carl wants peace, and Rick’s mentality right now is to kill Negan and doesn’t really grant Carl’s request. Im guessing that this war will be over after this season ends (duh). Some will die obviously but we don’t know who.
Way to go on breaking Carl's promise Rick
sorry. but negan needs to be put to death.
John Doe No, Rick needs to be put to death. He started by killing Negans people in season 6. Always rooting for the main Character.
I know Rick and his people literally stormed the savior compound at night and slaughtered everyone. Because of talking to people they met? That could've been a workers place like the sanctuary.
TheGreatKhan
Actually, Negan's people started it in episode 9 of season 6. Daryl, Sasha and Abraham met a few of them.
They told them, that they "have" to kill one of the three and the other two had to bring them to Alexandria. They almost killed Sasha or Abraham, but Daryl saved them. Negan would've done the same thing to Alexandria, as they did to Hiltop and the Kingdom.
So yeah... Negan isn't really the good guy here.
John Doe they both do. Rick is just as crazy.
1:01 I miss Andrew Lincoln, his portrayal as Rick was my favorite part of the show. At least we still got Daryl around
Fr!!
Truly made Negan look like a different type of person. This show can only go one for at most another season do to Carl passing.
Negan is one of the most well written villains let alone characters in the history of tv shows and I genuinely mean it. He is constantly making us question if we should like him or not, constantly doing things to make us hate him then turning us back around on it. We really can't tell if he's truly an awful person, insane, or what. He is a brutal killer but he also has empathy and believes in a world with a system of rules. He has a heart. He seriously respects Rick even though he's his enemy, and had a great respect for Carl. He felt bad for Rick too, he really did. We know we should hate him but he's do damn charismatic and he has actual feelings. This is thanks to the writers and Jeffrey Dean Morgan I'm sure, it's just so perfectly done and acted. He is incredibly complex, and the fact that he reacted this way to Carl makes me so much more interested in him.
Galactic Jewels I just hope they wont make Negan look like a big joke in the end just like what happened to Ben in the tv series LOST...Ben was a scary villain at the start of that series then went on became a joke in the final seasons lol..
Yeah and he's against rape too which makes him even better.
Galactic Jewels Negan and Gus from Breaking Bad are my 2 top villains in tv.
Galactic Jewels he’s a good character but came a few seasons to late in the show
I agree 100%
One thing we know about Rick, if he promises he's going to kill you, rest assured he means it. As Gareth found out on the receiving end of a red handled Machete. So Negan is seriously fucked.
Keith Allver sub to me please
OK Dude, I just did.
Sub to me too bro
Keith Allver Negan wont die. He alive in comics. I know some other characters are alive in comis but dead in Tv show.
Rose R. Honestly. Idk. Morgan does have a jail. And The "my mercy prevails over my wrath" thing. Maybe Rick will let Negan live. For Carl's memory. Idk. We have to wait and see.
It’s funny how we got more of a reaction from negan, Enid and Carol than we did rick
"That kid was the future"
*Me looking at Scott Gimple*
Me during this scene " Rick leave Negan alone hes going through a hard time"
0:50 when she tells you "it's so nice to have a guy friend to talk to"
More like 1:06
I'm really happy Rick didn't kill Negan, he's my favourite character! I hated him in season 7/8 and now i love him, just goes to show what an amazing actor he is!
1:14 It was at this moment that he knew he fucked up
Seems Negan may be a lil worried now that he knows Rick has a lot less to lose now and is probably desperate. I know negan feels hurt by this tho.
*The comics:* Let's make the following Carl's arcs about him learning some sociopath surviving skills from Negan and sort of becoming his badass 2.0 version and also the two of them become great friends
*The series:* Haha zombie on Carl go bitebite
This show had so much potential. They’ve turned it into a ridiculous one. Killed off so many good points
Aw Negan looks so genuinely upset about Carl, that broke my heart!
That woulda been some crazy shit if Negan was crying
Samuel Reyna He pretty much was there is more to the scene and his eyes were tearing up.
@@drivingwren and still he wanted to kill carl himself😂
@@drivingwren he was crying because now there's no one for him to feed his spaghetti.
@@tommymoodie2157 That's the biggest tragedy of all.
Negan turns into a good hearted person....!!he felt so bad on Carl's death!
"Well I would've bashed his brains with Lucille if it wasn't for that tiger showing up, but man... I feel bad that he's dead."
Negan respected them both, and he liked Carl. You can tell that he was truly upset.
This scene perfectly shows that even the most brutal of people actually have a heart
Amazing how he had some bonds with ricks kids its funny asf the bad past and he still grew some bonds with em
You can see the visual pain expression on Negans face after hearing
FIRST GLENN, NOW CARL! ALL MY FAVORITE CHARACTERS ARE DYING MAN WHAT THE FUCK
My fav was glen now Megan’s my fav but I just find it hard to like him 7 or 1
i mean the comic book series does have negan being caputured by rick and i think carl's letters weighs a lot on ricks decision to spare negan's life in the end. then again the show doesn't always follow the comic book series either.
The reason Carl died was FOR Negan to live. Scott Gimple literally said he couldn't find a reason Rick would let Negan live like in the comics. But if Carl's last wish was part of sparing his life, Rick would come to honor that.
TheNextWriter In the comics, he spared Negan to see how wrong his methods are and tries to show him a better way.
I am wondering how the next arc will be, if there is even a next arc in the series, Carl is a HUGE part in the next arc with the Whisperers
Gerson Sint Jago It will probably be carried it through another character as much as that sucks.
TheNextWriter the biggest hint that he has come to a conclusion that HE WON'T KILL NEGAN is because he said something along the lines like: "my mercy prevails over my wrath". This totally leads on to his decision to spare Negan' s life. Although we may have thought that Rick was pertaining to Carl after burying him, he said that right when he had an inflicted wound.
i really love this show because there is no protagonist or antagonists, there are just survivors.
This right here is why I love negan. You can argue that he is a psychopath like the governor but in reality, negan is caring and compassionate and looks out for his people.
Carl isn't dead, Rick is just hiding him under the nearest dumpster.
I find it funny how Negan feels bad yet at the end of season 7 he tried to bash Carl’s face with his bat.
Cimmerian it was a punishment, he respected Carl, he didn't wanted to kill him, it was just a warning sign to Rick.
no name I know but still..
G4nst4Ch33se Negan always punishes by taking a life.
G4nst4Ch33se it was punishment to rick
It was punishment. He didnt want to do it but had to, to prove a point to rick that shit is for real
I love the character of Negan. The actor is great. But I love how Negan, if you dig under a few layers, is actually a good, compassionate, and caring individual. He's a great example of how both power corrupts, and how a cruel world can turn even the honourable, into the ruthless.
This is my absolute favorite scene in the entire series