Thanks man. I've been asking around about kuno succ for a long time. I thought I was the only one playing Kuno succ. All the guides are a bit outdated so this really helps.
Guide is still up to date. I neglected to mention Prime:Shackles cancels. It will cast faster out of foxclaw, shadowclone, shadow explosion, and ankle cutter 2/21/24 changes Ankle Cutter: Added Spirit(bottom right) rune generation on cast
Nice to meet you, from Russia with love :) Thanks man. Much appreciated! Keep it up. Seems like not a popular class and only few guides for it. Started playing bdo only two months ago. And I’m really really liked the Kuno
I'd like to add a quick update here on the skill enhancements sections. There is a pretty good use case for Ankle Splitter. Shackle Target is purely a pvp pick and I've been experimenting more with Ankle Splitter for a niche filler dps skill of about 9k%. It hits about as hard as black moonlight, but also adds a 15 dp debuff which is more of a big thing for awakening kuno as she only has the one debuff in moonstorm. Thank you to Amaya / @brianeatszombies32 for enlightening me on this and hope this helps you all! :)
Hey man, I heard many voices talking about Kuno is good in PVE now and some people also saying Kuno is still very bad after the pve buff. What is your opinion on her Awakening wise?
Awakening is still lagging pretty far behind even succession kuno at end game spots. They really need to rework how pinwheel's damage is calculated for her to shine.@@mkm2185
@@Ucazean yes I've tried a lot of classes and it's boring after a while, I love kuno movement and I seems to pull decent trash numbers plus it's not brain dead but I didn't find her really hard to use only played awakening for now.
Man Kuno looks so beautiful and fun to play. I am worried about not being able to do enough damage to grind. I don’t have good gear but really want to play Kuno!!!
Thanks for the kind words. Lets put it this way. I've played the class for a long time and have always grinded on it, it's been good and mediocre. It always will have ups and downs.
Greetings, just came across this Video by accident, first I really always thought for years that kuno is way to complicated, the community sentiment was always kinda negativ and me, someone who really hates PvP in all its form in MMORPG's, kinda neglected kuno always. But My current main (Woosa) i roled last year after I completly started over with BDO (long and complicated story/ tl:dr: I jumped the ship back when PA took over and I didn't transfer account data over as an excuse to get out of BDO). To make it short since the past weekend I started now my second character as I'm quite satisfied with woosa but I seek some variety, so I picked Kuno cause I never played her and oh Boi was I sleeping on her. Haveing an absolute blast right now with. But I will primarely play Awa since I like the fantasy behind that playstyle more. Your Video was exactly what I needed to understand some things. So thanks for that!
I do like PvE, and you pretty much gotta grind for the gear. I think if you only pve you will want dr gear 100%. If you want to get into pvp wait until you have a lot of gear to make the switch to evasion (740gs+)
Hey sorry I'm working on an awakening pvp montage rn, but also they announced april class changes which might bring me back to the class. On a break pve wise from it.
Can i play dr for awake kuno for both pve and pvp? Im trying to find more info for the class but the class discord is from 2020 and there isnt a channel where you can ask questions
I am one of the heads in the class discord perhaps you have the wrong one. I completely rewrote the #kuno-combos channel with lots of good beginner guide stuff for pve and pvp. DR is definitely better in pve and arguably better in pvp atm.
Definitely gonna watch this. Im a 'returning' player(I stopped before even hitting 56 lol so like 7 years ago) Just came back with all the season freebies and its pretty cool I made a Drakania but man I remember playing some Kuno and I always thought the chakram was super cool. Also I got a 'cosplay party' outfit box and apparently the Kuno one is really amazing. Whats your costume?
The one in this video is actually cosplay party box 1 I think haha. Its the lahn sanguine petal outfit that kuno got. It could box 2 I'm not sure so please check if you open it. And thanks for the kind words, I'm glad I could help some people out there and I too have quit and come back many times. I remember grinding this very kuno up to 60 at pirate island back in the day fun times.
Yeah I do. I'll make some pvp content soon hopefully. I'm waiting for class changes to finish before I make a pvp guide though as its all up in the air. @@HeavenRoadV
I think awakening is rough in some of the caps, mainly in t4's. Her damage is low and she doesnt have the zippy get in get out tools like succ has to get in and get out and play like a DR rat class. In uncapped she feels more stable, especially after switching to evasion. Succession feels very strong in all aspects of pvp right now, her only weakness is sometimes I feel like I'm missing a skill or 2 to use in 1v1s, and she can run out of stamina easily if you don't pay attention. @@HeavenRoadV
Hey that's awesome I love to hear this! Despite a lot of her flaws I think you can make her work and she is tons of fun while doing it in both pvp and pve.
i've a question if you could help please. if i were to use prime wheel of wrath ninjitsu release during cooldown, how much dmg would i deal compared to without CD?
She can barely scrape by with average numbers at end game spots I believe at the moment. She is high effort and falls behind even her counterpart succession kuno quite severely sadly.
Have you played ninja at all? I loved awk ninja. But when it came to pve grinding. I just wanted to be more lazy woth pack to pack movement. So it killed me on ninja having to put 90% of my effort into movement and 10% into actual combo. How does kuno compare? Is it an exact clone of ninja
It is extremely similar to ninja movement. I would say kuno has movement that goes a bit further, but you need to be swapping to pre awakening a lot for pack to pack. I will say however, W+Q is tendon cutter and that usually moves you far enough between packs, and then you can just half moon slash to go back to awakening and start doing damage.
very nice quickstart for my tag. what are you favorite spots with succ kuno? is more like only gyfin, trolls, these kind of things right? i did grind at gyfin to get comfy with the class and skills but keen on trying out other spots, just dont know what kind of spots are considered good for succ. you got a hint for me? :)
Yep you're spot on. Jade, tungrad ruins, dark seekers, hexe are also good ones. Anything where you want to focus fire a single mob or something down she excels at.
In Pve I dont need the defence from centaurs, and that item should only be used in pvp evasion builds where you want to use a Kutum over an evasion offhand like Tadd.
Very nice, both specs can kill the pack before it turns around which is the goal, albeit succ can do it easier. I have plenty gyfin videos to showcase throughout the patches :)
I really hope they do what they did for awk Mystic to Succ Kuno. I really like her and would like to drop Woosa for her but they keep over looking her. Whoever is the dev for Kuno really needs to speak up at the meetings. Be assertive. Insert Kuno dominance. I would say one more skill for her or rework an unused skill to be better for the gap info combo. Like they reworked sura chaos into one of the coolest looking skills in the game.
Yeah all this would be good, however it has seemed pretty clear for me the kuno dev for the past year is either misinformed or doesn't really play awakening. If you look at the most recent succession changes they NAILED IT. They knew exactly what the class needed and executed on it. Awakening it seems like they change a bunch of skills at once without feedback because they aren't sure how the class should function in pvp and pve. It honestly feels like they throw stuff at the wall and send it for the past year.
@@Ucazean u scrolled through the skills and i saw lock symbols and wanted to know why those were locked but you didn't explain any of them except Shadow Slash. I slowed down the video to 0.25 and paused bit by bit to see them... I'm just assuming to prevent accidental key inputs.
Yeah it could definitely be better. I really hope one day we get some new skills to replace dead talents like tragic blade so we have more things to press. @@arimaso709
There were multiple cooldown issues with the class when I made the video. Mainly on Shadow Clone and Shadow Explosion. These were since buffed to be much shorter cds and smoothed out the rotation.
ok if u playin that long as me u shopuld finally find out to time to reroll this class is ur guilty plessure, kindo bdsm fetish but on pc game. Don't give the ppl fake hope it's can be a nice class to play in pve. Think twice before u gonna start play kuno. Then watch this video and read my comment. After a week of playing her u find it out how this class suffer in any other aspect than 1v1. Ofc I got with my kono bad moments and worst moments, but I came here to prevent u before u gonna do misatke. If u got any serious brain injury in ur life before pls do not create kuno as ur main char. PTSD and stockholm syndrome, than what u recive back after playin kuno. Please dont hate me in comments but this class it's not for everyone. It's challange for urself and entire bdo community. And remeber my worlds. In bdo u can be sure 2 thinks. ! kuno never gonna be a top tier. Second it's more for sure kuno succ gonna be nerfed even after small changes in skill animations than any other top tier classes. And ofc "buffs for awa" but n1 cares bcus awa works even worst than succ. Trust me brothers and sisters and any other wombs if u gonna play bdo or u already playin never ever decide to roll on kuno. Thanks now u can go back to do ur shiets on drakanias, zerks or any other woosas
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Thanks man. I've been asking around about kuno succ for a long time. I thought I was the only one playing Kuno succ. All the guides are a bit outdated so this really helps.
Haha yeah, I'm on a bit of a break from the game at the moment but more content will be coming soon!
By far the best Kunoichi guide that I have ever seen and could imagine for PvE. Thank you so, so much Ucazean. This will be a lifechanger for me
Thanks so much means a lot :)
Guide is still up to date.
I neglected to mention Prime:Shackles cancels. It will cast faster out of foxclaw, shadowclone, shadow explosion, and ankle cutter
2/21/24 changes
Ankle Cutter: Added Spirit(bottom right) rune generation on cast
Thanks King
Nice to meet you, from Russia with love :)
Thanks man. Much appreciated! Keep it up. Seems like not a popular class and only few guides for it.
Started playing bdo only two months ago. And I’m really really liked the Kuno
Hey I'm glad you are liking it! If you ever need help lemme know I can try to answer questions about the game.
@@Ucazean sure, thanks
Great guide. Well said. Lots of good info. Thank you for sharing :)
Thank you!
I'd like to add a quick update here on the skill enhancements sections. There is a pretty good use case for Ankle Splitter. Shackle Target is purely a pvp pick and I've been experimenting more with Ankle Splitter for a niche filler dps skill of about 9k%. It hits about as hard as black moonlight, but also adds a 15 dp debuff which is more of a big thing for awakening kuno as she only has the one debuff in moonstorm. Thank you to Amaya / @brianeatszombies32 for enlightening me on this and hope this helps you all! :)
Hey man, I heard many voices talking about Kuno is good in PVE now and some people also saying Kuno is still very bad after the pve buff. What is your opinion on her Awakening wise?
Awakening is still lagging pretty far behind even succession kuno at end game spots. They really need to rework how pinwheel's damage is calculated for her to shine.@@mkm2185
Yo you deserve a trophy I finally found my main after a long time of rerolling
Haha thanks for the kind words, I'm glad you enjoy the class!
@@Ucazean yes I've tried a lot of classes and it's boring after a while, I love kuno movement and I seems to pull decent trash numbers plus it's not brain dead but I didn't find her really hard to use only played awakening for now.
Thanks. Beautiful character and tempting to try the class. I saved your guide if that time comes.
Hey! I really appreciate the comment :) She's gone through many facelifts over the years but I'm happy with how she looks now.
Keep pumping out content
Video of an updated gyfin run coming overnight tonight :)
Man Kuno looks so beautiful and fun to play. I am worried about not being able to do enough damage to grind. I don’t have good gear but really want to play Kuno!!!
Thanks for the kind words. Lets put it this way. I've played the class for a long time and have always grinded on it, it's been good and mediocre. It always will have ups and downs.
@@Ucazean Thanks for the response and the reassurance to play Kuno. I been playing her the last couple days and been having so much fun!!!
Glad you are :)@@kurosanyasuke8236
Greetings, just came across this Video by accident, first I really always thought for years that kuno is way to complicated, the community sentiment was always kinda negativ and me, someone who really hates PvP in all its form in MMORPG's, kinda neglected kuno always. But My current main (Woosa) i roled last year after I completly started over with BDO (long and complicated story/ tl:dr: I jumped the ship back when PA took over and I didn't transfer account data over as an excuse to get out of BDO). To make it short since the past weekend I started now my second character as I'm quite satisfied with woosa but I seek some variety, so I picked Kuno cause I never played her and oh Boi was I sleeping on her. Haveing an absolute blast right now with. But I will primarely play Awa since I like the fantasy behind that playstyle more.
Your Video was exactly what I needed to understand some things.
So thanks for that!
Awesome! Thanks for the nice write up here I really appreciate it :)
Thanks for the guide.
Yes of course :)
should i go evasion gear for pve? and how you do to get those equipment if you don't like to pve?
I do like PvE, and you pretty much gotta grind for the gear. I think if you only pve you will want dr gear 100%. If you want to get into pvp wait until you have a lot of gear to make the switch to evasion (740gs+)
Any new videos? How is end game grinding with Kuno?
Hey sorry I'm working on an awakening pvp montage rn, but also they announced april class changes which might bring me back to the class. On a break pve wise from it.
@@Ucazean oh okay cool!
Can i play dr for awake kuno for both pve and pvp? Im trying to find more info for the class but the class discord is from 2020 and there isnt a channel where you can ask questions
I am one of the heads in the class discord perhaps you have the wrong one. I completely rewrote the #kuno-combos channel with lots of good beginner guide stuff for pve and pvp. DR is definitely better in pve and arguably better in pvp atm.
Ive been character hopping forever and just wanna chose a main. Might go with kuno awak honestly. Big ring go spin.
Thats awesome man she's a lot of fun! Enjoy it :)
Toilet seat gamin
I was thinking the same thing have you tried it yet I'm currently playing mystic
Definitely gonna watch this. Im a 'returning' player(I stopped before even hitting 56 lol so like 7 years ago)
Just came back with all the season freebies and its pretty cool
I made a Drakania but man I remember playing some Kuno and I always thought the chakram was super cool.
Also I got a 'cosplay party' outfit box and apparently the Kuno one is really amazing.
Whats your costume?
The one in this video is actually cosplay party box 1 I think haha. Its the lahn sanguine petal outfit that kuno got. It could box 2 I'm not sure so please check if you open it. And thanks for the kind words, I'm glad I could help some people out there and I too have quit and come back many times. I remember grinding this very kuno up to 60 at pirate island back in the day fun times.
@@Ucazean I remember pirate island haha.
Do you pvp too?
Yeah I do. I'll make some pvp content soon hopefully. I'm waiting for class changes to finish before I make a pvp guide though as its all up in the air. @@HeavenRoadV
@@Ucazean Cool what do you think of the class performance in pvp? Im more interested in Kuno than in ninja as well
I think awakening is rough in some of the caps, mainly in t4's. Her damage is low and she doesnt have the zippy get in get out tools like succ has to get in and get out and play like a DR rat class. In uncapped she feels more stable, especially after switching to evasion. Succession feels very strong in all aspects of pvp right now, her only weakness is sometimes I feel like I'm missing a skill or 2 to use in 1v1s, and she can run out of stamina easily if you don't pay attention. @@HeavenRoadV
have they changed or updated anything meaningful, are the succ combos the same still ?
ty so much ..tagged a kuno to my main "ninja" :P it was that time to give her a chance :)
Hey that's awesome I love to hear this! Despite a lot of her flaws I think you can make her work and she is tons of fun while doing it in both pvp and pve.
i've a question if you could help please. if i were to use prime wheel of wrath ninjitsu release during cooldown, how much dmg would i deal compared to without CD?
Same if you have 3 runes
Can you share your character template pls pls pls
hello, how is awk kuno in pve/pvp, can she hit above average numbers?, thanks for the guide!
She can barely scrape by with average numbers at end game spots I believe at the moment. She is high effort and falls behind even her counterpart succession kuno quite severely sadly.
@@Ucazean so with succ kuno I can hit relatively high numbers?, if that so I'll just play succ till awakening gets good
Yeah especially in ulukita, and sadly thats what I'm doing as well.@@axelonline3312
@@Ucazean I see, thanks again!, I'll just reroll to kuno succ untill awakening gets buffed.
Have you played ninja at all? I loved awk ninja. But when it came to pve grinding. I just wanted to be more lazy woth pack to pack movement. So it killed me on ninja having to put 90% of my effort into movement and 10% into actual combo. How does kuno compare? Is it an exact clone of ninja
It is extremely similar to ninja movement. I would say kuno has movement that goes a bit further, but you need to be swapping to pre awakening a lot for pack to pack. I will say however, W+Q is tendon cutter and that usually moves you far enough between packs, and then you can just half moon slash to go back to awakening and start doing damage.
awaiting for pvp set-up like this one :C
Yeah I am kind of waiting for pvp "changes" to be coming before I attempt to write something up for that, but it will be coming!
very nice quickstart for my tag. what are you favorite spots with succ kuno? is more like only gyfin, trolls, these kind of things right? i did grind at gyfin to get comfy with the class and skills but keen on trying out other spots, just dont know what kind of spots are considered good for succ. you got a hint for me? :)
Yep you're spot on. Jade, tungrad ruins, dark seekers, hexe are also good ones. Anything where you want to focus fire a single mob or something down she excels at.
As far as grinding which spec is more efficient you would say? I just picked up the class and love awakening haven’t tried succ yet
They are pretty even outside of spots like tungrad ruins where succ is better
Thanks!!! Looking forward to more kuno tips & tricks!!!
Is this still a valid since buff?
How do you have those dress horns?
Ram horn witch outfit headpiece that shows up around holidays :)
omg big fan
omg its u also big fan
I seen you had ballistic belt over centuries why is that? I currently have a tri century belt but have a lot of ballistic last in storage
In Pve I dont need the defence from centaurs, and that item should only be used in pvp evasion builds where you want to use a Kutum over an evasion offhand like Tadd.
@@Ucazean cool, thank you!
hi ! just start with her , how is she at gyfin :)
Very nice, both specs can kill the pack before it turns around which is the goal, albeit succ can do it easier. I have plenty gyfin videos to showcase throughout the patches :)
I really hope they do what they did for awk Mystic to Succ Kuno. I really like her and would like to drop Woosa for her but they keep over looking her. Whoever is the dev for Kuno really needs to speak up at the meetings. Be assertive. Insert Kuno dominance.
I would say one more skill for her or rework an unused skill to be better for the gap info combo. Like they reworked sura chaos into one of the coolest looking skills in the game.
Yeah all this would be good, however it has seemed pretty clear for me the kuno dev for the past year is either misinformed or doesn't really play awakening. If you look at the most recent succession changes they NAILED IT. They knew exactly what the class needed and executed on it.
Awakening it seems like they change a bunch of skills at once without feedback because they aren't sure how the class should function in pvp and pve. It honestly feels like they throw stuff at the wall and send it for the past year.
Has like 4 sills locked but only goes over 1 of them in "skills to lock" section. (evasion is obvious).
Sorry what needs more explanation? Not sure what you are referring to here.
@@Ucazean u scrolled through the skills and i saw lock symbols and wanted to know why those were locked but you didn't explain any of them except Shadow Slash. I slowed down the video to 0.25 and paused bit by bit to see them... I'm just assuming to prevent accidental key inputs.
Maybe one day they will fix the skill CDs then again maybe not
Yeah, succession at least saw some cd and stam fixes about a month ago. Here's hoping for awakening ~ haha
@@Ucazean I still find myself having no cds or stam for succ =/
Yeah it could definitely be better. I really hope one day we get some new skills to replace dead talents like tragic blade so we have more things to press. @@arimaso709
Good video. but combo in succ is very slow.
There were multiple cooldown issues with the class when I made the video. Mainly on Shadow Clone and Shadow Explosion. These were since buffed to be much shorter cds and smoothed out the rotation.
ok if u playin that long as me u shopuld finally find out to time to reroll
this class is ur guilty plessure, kindo bdsm fetish but on pc game. Don't give the ppl fake hope it's can be a nice class to play in pve. Think twice before u gonna start play kuno. Then watch this video and read my comment. After a week of playing her u find it out how this class suffer in any other aspect than 1v1.
Ofc I got with my kono bad moments and worst moments, but I came here to prevent u before u gonna do misatke. If u got any serious brain injury in ur life before pls do not create kuno as ur main char. PTSD and stockholm syndrome, than what u recive back after playin kuno.
Please dont hate me in comments but this class it's not for everyone. It's challange for urself and entire bdo community. And remeber my worlds. In bdo u can be sure 2 thinks. ! kuno never gonna be a top tier. Second it's more for sure kuno succ gonna be nerfed even after small changes in skill animations than any other top tier classes. And ofc "buffs for awa" but n1 cares bcus awa works even worst than succ.
Trust me brothers and sisters and any other wombs if u gonna play bdo or u already playin never ever decide to roll on kuno.
Thanks now u can go back to do ur shiets on drakanias, zerks or any other woosas
FOUND THE COPY PASTA!
@@TheXroz21 nope, real experience -.-"