another in-depth and honest battery review. The more i hear about Renogy, the more i realize how good of a value they are. Compared to Victron, it is a great deal. holy ski storage !! That looked really cool. Would like to see how you built that out as i ma also a skier.
I completely agree! Actually I don’t love our ski storage. I’d like to install a Thule on the outside of the rear door to have more of a vertical ski locker. I’ll definitely make a video about tho 👍
Did you say the max current for short burst discharges was 285A? I have used my current LiFePO4 batteries as genset starter batteries, occasionally, and the BMS tends to shut down within seconds when the genset starts pulling cranking amps. I think my diesel genset needs around 300A to turn over. If I disable my inverter, and turn off other 12V DC draws, I can usually get the genset started. Is there a link to the tech specs for these batteries somewhere? I'm in eastern Canada and have the same "self heating to allow low temperature charging" requirement as you. I have 2 Relion RB100LT batts now bought 5 years ago, and in constant use, and I think they may be approaching end of life capacity.
Thanks for the information. I bought a new camper and it has one Renogy 12.8V 100ah heated battery but its the older version, I want to add the new Pro version in parallel. Would that cause any issues? The older version is 4000 cycle and the new one would be 5000. Not sure if that would be an issue
It’s not recommended to connect different model battery’s in series or parallel. I believe Renogy used a different type of lithium cell in each of these 100ah batteries. I’d recommend selling the old battery and buying the 200ah Pro model.
Thanks for sharing. Do you know if this battery can be used in parallel with, say, a 200, or 300 amp hour renegy battery? I would it should be no problem given each battery has its own bms. Are you living in Calgary? If so, we are Alberta neighbours.
@@madetoexplore Thank you. I don't know if you know this but can the Renogy IP67 solar charge controller be connected to a battery that is also being fed by a strong alternator? Say, aprox. one with about 145 amp output?
@@rvaillant yeah, as long as it’s 12v. I don’t believe there’s a limit on how much the alternator puts out. The charger will only be able to pull a max of 50 amps tho
Hi David I’m looking for advice on how to add the Renogy flexible panels to the roof (1)175 w and (2)100w.My plan is to hook 2 100w panels in parallel using usin2way branch connectors then add the 175 w , also in parallel The specs are 5.5amp x 2 = 11 amps& 23.5 v /the175w is 9.5 a amp & 23.9 v.so my real question is does this give me ( 11a+9.5a )20.5 amps & 23.5volts ? Do the panels “play together “ or do the 100w panels drag down the 175w panel and just leave me with a mess? Don Holmes
Why does the older model Core allow in series connections while the brand new 2024 “Pro” model does not? It is a major letdown and likely a dealbreaker for me. I 👍🏻 your review just because you pointed out that disadvantage.
@@madetoexplore What cell types are they? In your reply to @ianb4801 you mentioned "I believe this battery does have pouch." I'm curious how you determined that? Yeah, no Series should be a deal breaker for most serious enthusiasts.
1. Are they still using pouch cells like in their previous 100Ah batteries? I have previous model Renogy Smart 100s (4 of them) and while they're still ticking along after 3 years, I wouldn't buy batteries with pouch cells again. 2. A key point in the previous Renogy Smart 100s is that they balance bundles of pouch cells within each battery but also across other identical batteries connected in parallel into a bank. I think that´s why the restriction against connecting in series. To do this, there is an active data communications traffic between the batteries. To activate the old batteries, you had to plug in a short lead with a switch and when you pressed in, the whole bank would activate. 3. You are mixing up your units and it suggests you don't know much about batteries. I think you quoted a test load of 175Ah at one stage - but the battery has a storeage capacity of 100Ah. I think you might mean 175A - but maybe that's wrong. Batteries store energy - loads draw current (energy at a rate), not the same thing.
Why wouldn’t you buy batteries with pouch cells again? Yes, I believe this battery does have pouch but Renogy’s COR series doesn’t. Yes I meant 175 amps, not amp hours.
Why wouldn’t you buy batteries with pouch cells again? Yes, I believe this battery does have pouch but Renogy’s COR series doesn’t. Yes I meant 175 amps, not amp hours.
@@madetoexploreI'm not sure why pouch cells tend to be unpopular generally but they sure problematic if you wish to build your own batteries, which I'm likely to do when I get across the Pacific from here, in Panama, to Australia. My basic concern is statistical. my boat's basic power needs can be met with 3 of these 100A batteries, but installed a 4th just in case 1 failed; a great warrantee is worthless to me when I'm 2,500 miles from where I bought them from and I'm sailing further away. If you're on land then it's a different proposition.. Each of my Renogy batteries has 16 pouch cells inside and if a single 1 fails then I think I lose that battery. With 4 of them then that means 64 pouch cells - which is a lot IMHO. The way I see it, the more of each item, the more likely it is that you have on3 fail. I's just Linbergh logic. I'm satisfied with my current batteries, which I bought during covid days and self-building wasn't an option, but now I will do something else - with far fewer cells.
@@markos.1082 Can you be more specific with links? I haven't found any teardowns of these new PRO cells, as they are still new. Will Prowse did a teardown of the Renogy "Smart" battery and he was surprised to discover that it contained pouch cells. I assume that means that the cell type isn't listed anywhere on the website or the manual.
@@madetoexploreI know this battery is rated to operate at the limit of -20C. Did you try this battery at that point or maybe less? You have that space heater there to heat the battery?
@@walterflores5514 yes, recently used it at -40 actually. Worked great. The space heater was only to test it. I don’t use that in the van or to heat the battery.
@@madetoexplore Funny thing, yesterday when I got the Batteries I mention, no support, no update in the Core ONE.. well today when the batts actually showed up.. BAM, Firmware update avail. Not sure if they link the firmware updates to the equipment it senses? Seemed strange, and awfully high tech if that is the case. But anyway, firmware update of the Core One and found the batteries right away. If they could only increase the update rate of all of the Renogy BT data .. 5-20 second updates is very slow. Nobody talks about that.
Thank you guys for watching! What do you think of this new PRO model battery from Renogy? Do you think its worth the price?
another in-depth and honest battery review. The more i hear about Renogy, the more i realize how good of a value they are. Compared to Victron, it is a great deal. holy ski storage !! That looked really cool. Would like to see how you built that out as i ma also a skier.
I completely agree! Actually I don’t love our ski storage. I’d like to install a Thule on the outside of the rear door to have more of a vertical ski locker. I’ll definitely make a video about tho 👍
Did you say the max current for short burst discharges was 285A? I have used my current LiFePO4 batteries as genset starter batteries, occasionally, and the BMS tends to shut down within seconds when the genset starts pulling cranking amps. I think my diesel genset needs around 300A to turn over. If I disable my inverter, and turn off other 12V DC draws, I can usually get the genset started. Is there a link to the tech specs for these batteries somewhere? I'm in eastern Canada and have the same "self heating to allow low temperature charging" requirement as you. I have 2 Relion RB100LT batts now bought 5 years ago, and in constant use, and I think they may be approaching end of life capacity.
@@mikeyipeekyeh the peak discharge current is 245A for 30 seconds. It says this under the spec section on the Renogy website.
Why do you need the shunt for monitoring if it has Bluetooth monitoring as a feature?
You don’t! I have one installed because I test batteries that don’t have Bluetooth.
I just bought the 200 amp of that same model that just came out
Nice! It seems to be a great battery so far 👍
Thanks for the information. I bought a new camper and it has one Renogy 12.8V 100ah heated battery but its the older version, I want to add the new Pro version in parallel. Would that cause any issues? The older version is 4000 cycle and the new one would be 5000. Not sure if that would be an issue
It’s not recommended to connect different model battery’s in series or parallel. I believe Renogy used a different type of lithium cell in each of these 100ah batteries. I’d recommend selling the old battery and buying the 200ah Pro model.
Thanks for sharing. Do you know if this battery can be used in parallel with, say, a 200, or 300 amp hour renegy battery? I would it should be no problem given each battery has its own bms. Are you living in Calgary? If so, we are Alberta neighbours.
@@rvaillant unfortunately, you can only connect batteries that are the same model and size in parallel. We are! Hey neighbor 😄
@@madetoexplore Thank you. I don't know if you know this but can the Renogy IP67 solar charge controller be connected to a battery that is also being fed by a strong alternator? Say, aprox. one with about 145 amp output?
@@rvaillant yeah, as long as it’s 12v. I don’t believe there’s a limit on how much the alternator puts out. The charger will only be able to pull a max of 50 amps tho
Hi David I’m looking for advice on how to add the Renogy flexible panels to the roof (1)175 w and (2)100w.My plan is to hook 2 100w panels in parallel using usin2way branch connectors then add the 175 w , also in parallel The specs are 5.5amp x 2 = 11 amps& 23.5 v /the175w is 9.5 a amp & 23.9 v.so my real question is does this give me ( 11a+9.5a )20.5 amps & 23.5volts ? Do the panels “play together “ or do the 100w panels drag down the 175w panel and just leave me with a mess? Don Holmes
No it’s not advised to connect different sized solar panels as it will reduce the amps to the lesser panel. I would try to pick three of the same.
Why does the older model Core allow in series connections while the brand new 2024 “Pro” model does not? It is a major letdown and likely a dealbreaker for me. I 👍🏻 your review just because you pointed out that disadvantage.
Thanks! It depends on the cells they use. It would definitely be nice if it could be connected in series.
@@madetoexplore What cell types are they? In your reply to @ianb4801 you mentioned "I believe this battery does have pouch." I'm curious how you determined that? Yeah, no Series should be a deal breaker for most serious enthusiasts.
Great video!
Do you have an updated discount code for Renogy?
@@MarkSortino thanks! MADETOTRAVEL is working again. Thanks for letting me know that it wasn’t!
1. Are they still using pouch cells like in their previous 100Ah batteries? I have previous model Renogy Smart 100s (4 of them) and while they're still ticking along after 3 years, I wouldn't buy batteries with pouch cells again.
2. A key point in the previous Renogy Smart 100s is that they balance bundles of pouch cells within each battery but also across other identical batteries connected in parallel into a bank. I think that´s why the restriction against connecting in series. To do this, there is an active data communications traffic between the batteries. To activate the old batteries, you had to plug in a short lead with a switch and when you pressed in, the whole bank would activate.
3. You are mixing up your units and it suggests you don't know much about batteries. I think you quoted a test load of 175Ah at one stage - but the battery has a storeage capacity of 100Ah. I think you might mean 175A - but maybe that's wrong. Batteries store energy - loads draw current (energy at a rate), not the same thing.
Why wouldn’t you buy batteries with pouch cells again? Yes, I believe this battery does have pouch but Renogy’s COR series doesn’t.
Yes I meant 175 amps, not amp hours.
Why wouldn’t you buy batteries with pouch cells again? Yes, I believe this battery does have pouch but Renogy’s COR series doesn’t.
Yes I meant 175 amps, not amp hours.
@@madetoexploreI'm not sure why pouch cells tend to be unpopular generally but they sure problematic if you wish to build your own batteries, which I'm likely to do when I get across the Pacific from here, in Panama, to Australia. My basic concern is statistical. my boat's basic power needs can be met with 3 of these 100A batteries, but installed a 4th just in case 1 failed; a great warrantee is worthless to me when I'm 2,500 miles from where I bought them from and I'm sailing further away. If you're on land then it's a different proposition..
Each of my Renogy batteries has 16 pouch cells inside and if a single 1 fails then I think I lose that battery. With 4 of them then that means 64 pouch cells - which is a lot IMHO. The way I see it, the more of each item, the more likely it is that you have on3 fail. I's just Linbergh logic.
I'm satisfied with my current batteries, which I bought during covid days and self-building wasn't an option, but now I will do something else - with far fewer cells.
According to teardowns, not pouch cells
@@markos.1082 Can you be more specific with links? I haven't found any teardowns of these new PRO cells, as they are still new. Will Prowse did a teardown of the Renogy "Smart" battery and he was surprised to discover that it contained pouch cells. I assume that means that the cell type isn't listed anywhere on the website or the manual.
Not to cold 0 🥶?
Tomorrow night it’s supposed to be -40 degrees Celsius in Calgary! Now that’s cold!!🥶
@@madetoexploreI know this battery is rated to operate at the limit of -20C. Did you try this battery at that point or maybe less? You have that space heater there to heat the battery?
@@walterflores5514 yes, recently used it at -40 actually. Worked great. The space heater was only to test it. I don’t use that in the van or to heat the battery.
It has everything except Renogy Core ONE compatibility, and no RJ45 connectors.
Yeah that’s true, I’m sure Renogy will update it to be compatible with the Core soon
@@madetoexplore Funny thing, yesterday when I got the Batteries I mention, no support, no update in the Core ONE.. well today when the batts actually showed up.. BAM, Firmware update avail. Not sure if they link the firmware updates to the equipment it senses? Seemed strange, and awfully high tech if that is the case. But anyway, firmware update of the Core One and found the batteries right away. If they could only increase the update rate of all of the Renogy BT data .. 5-20 second updates is very slow. Nobody talks about that.
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